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Tuesday October 13 2026 | Talarico’s Back, Katie Zachariah Is In, Kimberly Guilfoyle Out · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 2: It sure is, and we are so glad to have
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  Speaker 2: the company of greatness coming off his primetime appearance last night. Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Primetime Mark Davis making it to Laura Ingram's show, hitting
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  Speaker 2: people are telling me I need to keep you honest
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  Speaker 2: because you're going to get a big head, all these
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  Speaker 2: big TV appearances you're making.
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  Speaker 3: I'm at risk.
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  Speaker 2: You are. You are at risk. This is going to
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  Speaker 2: go to your head. I mean, Laura Ingram, do you
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  Speaker 2: know how many millions of people were hanging on to
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  Speaker 2: your every word last night?
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  Speaker 3: Think about it. I'm guessing a few. That's always nice
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  Speaker 3: to do the primetime thing. I mean, it's funny. I mean, well,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, let me ask. I mean, I'm nearly a
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  Speaker 3: co-host on Will Kane these days. I think I'm in
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  Speaker 3: there Thursday of this week. I know during the day,
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  Speaker 3: It's never going to be as big an audience as
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  Speaker 3: At Night. But doesn't The Five, which airs at 5
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  Speaker 3: Eastern Time, hence the name, and then 4, 3, 2,
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  Speaker 3: counting back through the time zones, isn't that their most
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  Speaker 3: watched show?
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 2: It's their number one rated show. Which is funny because
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  Speaker 2: I have now found myself tuning into The Five at 5.
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  Speaker 2: like I used to tune into Tucker before Tucker was
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  Speaker 2: summarily dismissed. He left the planet. And then he left
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  Speaker 2: the universe. So anyway, great job last night. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: Tallarico was fresh on Laura's mind and the missing 13 days.
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  Speaker 2: So weird, Mark. So bizarre. And, you know, Larry O'Connor
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  Speaker 2: just posted something on social media about how the New
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  Speaker 2: York Times supposedly had time-stamped stories photography of where when
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  Speaker 2: he was in his home yes sick with the flu
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  Speaker 2: the campaign released it to the new york times but
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  Speaker 2: to nobody right the can't that's exactly the campaign gave
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  Speaker 2: it to the times larry o'connor said well look since
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  Speaker 2: this uh this audio tape was supposedly ai generated does
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  Speaker 2: anybody know if the photographs supplied by the campaign to
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  Speaker 2: the times were ai generated how do you know How
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  Speaker 2: do you have any idea? And Mark, here's the part,
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  Speaker 2: and you and I talked briefly about this this morning.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to bring it up one more time, and
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  Speaker 2: then we'll move on. I'm going to tell you something.
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  Speaker 2: Any good reporter would uncover who the voice was on
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  Speaker 2: the tape, who was the woman at this mental health facility,
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  Speaker 2: is the tape AI or not, There would be some follow-up.
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  Speaker 2: Have you noticed how the story has just evaporated? It's
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  Speaker 2: just over.
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  Speaker 3: It's a lack of natural curiosity. Because if the story
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  Speaker 3: is real at the mental hospital, which it appears it
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  Speaker 3: is not, then if it were real, there'd be great
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  Speaker 3: curiosity to that. If it's not, if the thing was
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  Speaker 3: just a colossal hoax, then I don't blame Nick Swordhorse
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  Speaker 3: so much for going with it. That's just sort of
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  Speaker 3: wishful thinking plus gullibility. But this guy, what's Ryan Amaker,
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  Speaker 3: whatever his name is, he's the guy behind it who
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  Speaker 3: is chortling about it and taunting people about it. If
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  Speaker 3: this guy is a fraudster of the highest order... How
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  Speaker 3: did that happen? I say if, I mean, I remain
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  Speaker 3: open to absolutely anything on this crazy story, but how
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  Speaker 3: did that happen? And what went into the production of
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  Speaker 3: that little audio clip that ostensibly showed a mental hospital
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  Speaker 3: revealing that James Tallarico had been there?
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  Speaker 2: You're right.
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  Speaker 3: There's a colossal lack of what would be ordinary curiosity.
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  Speaker 2: But that's intentional. There's an intentional thing. It's not just
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  Speaker 2: a lack of curiosity. It's, we don't want, we really
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  Speaker 2: don't want to have a resolution to this story, because
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, we're going to let
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  Speaker 2: the story hang out there. It makes the Paxton side
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  Speaker 2: look bad, I think. Because the takeaway is MAGA influencers
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  Speaker 2: run with a debunked story. Well, who debunked it? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it hasn't been debunked. And contrary to you seem to
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  Speaker 2: suggest that it has been.
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  Speaker 3: Debunked means proven false. What it has been, it has
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  Speaker 3: been proven weak, proven thin, proven unsubstantiated.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't make it false.
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  Speaker 3: Correct. A lot of people, however, glommed onto it like
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  Speaker 3: it was gospel. fueled by that same wishful thinking and
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  Speaker 3: suspension of our usual radar to let the game come
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  Speaker 3: to us.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, a little housekeeping before we get started.
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  Speaker 2: I'm very offended. So we're live on YouTube right now.
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  Speaker 2: We have the chat room going. Yasmin wants to make
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  Speaker 2: sure that everybody chatting away, make sure you like and subscribe.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm trying to interact. So Yasmin says, Mike, be
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  Speaker 2: more interactive since Mark isn't all that great at being
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  Speaker 2: interactive with the texters. And I am. I'm pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: You know me. I'm fixated. I have no life. I'm
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  Speaker 2: a miserable, shallow little man. So I'm watching the comments
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  Speaker 2: like a hawk. And I say, okay. Well, let me interact.
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  Speaker 2: And I write on the chat room right now, okay, hi, everyone.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go. How much should I bag on Mark
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  Speaker 2: about his big TV hit with Laura Eden last night?
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  Speaker 2: He was great, but I don't want to let it
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  Speaker 2: go to his head. Should I be hard on him?
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  Speaker 2: Do you know not a single person, not Grayson Kidd,
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  Speaker 2: not J.A. Singleton, not Mad Mike, not just me and you,
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  Speaker 2: not Ken in Columbia, Richard, nobody answered me. What am I,
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  Speaker 2: what am I, chopped liver here?
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  Speaker 3: Where does the lecture come from? If we're going to
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  Speaker 3: interact with you, doggone it, you need to interact back.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not going to, I won't interact.
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  Speaker 3: Are you just going.
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  Speaker 2: To lie there? I will not interact. I will not interact. Jasmine,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not talking to these people. They don't talk to me.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you asked for it now.
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  Speaker 2: I asked for a question. I said, should I give
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  Speaker 2: you a hard time being a big TV star last
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  Speaker 2: night on Fox News? Should I go hard on him
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  Speaker 2: or not? And nobody even answers me.
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  Speaker 3: Perhaps they thought it was a rhetorical question. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Rhetorical?
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  Speaker 2: Should I be hard on him? How hard should I go?
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  Speaker 2: How much should I bag on Mark Davis for being Mr.
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  Speaker 2: TV superstar? And by the way, Mr. Smarty Pants, God
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  Speaker 2: forbid you mention the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: Here that comes again. Mike wanted me on the radio
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  Speaker 3: this morning. He badgered me for not going full diva
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  Speaker 3: and saying to Laura Ingram's producers, yeah, I'll be on
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  Speaker 3: with you people. But only if I'm able to plug
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  Speaker 3: the Eminem Extra podcast on Fox News.
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  Speaker 2: Co-starring Mike Gallagher.
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  Speaker 3: How do I shoehorn that in there naturally and organically?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. How does that even work? By the way, Yasmin
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  Speaker 2: is going to have to get under the hood because
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  Speaker 2: now I am getting comments. Nope, there's nothing in the chat.
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  Speaker 2: So I chatted and I'm interacting, but nobody's seen my post.
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  Speaker 2: It's from Eminem Mike. And I posted about five minutes ago.
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  Speaker 2: And nobody's seeing it. So I don't know what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in the live chat. I think I'm in the
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  Speaker 2: live chat. Where's the live chat? I can't ask Mark.
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  Speaker 2: You think Mark knows?
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  Speaker 3: It's like asking a monkey to build a nuclear reactor.
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  Speaker 2: The blind. I hit send. Oh, well, we'll figure it
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  Speaker 2: all out. We're going to get there someday. Anyhow, what's up?
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  Speaker 2: So here we are, Tallarico. And by the way, one
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  Speaker 2: final footnote on Tallarico. Did you watch The Five yesterday
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  Speaker 2: and see Jesse Waters battling it out with Jessica Tarloff?
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  Speaker 3: I was in and out. That happens most of the time.
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  Speaker 3: But what was it about specifically yesterday? Well, let me
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  Speaker 3: play it for you, Yasmin. We'll hit the button. Why
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  Speaker 3: just describe it when you have it in the first place?
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  Speaker 2: Here we go.
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  Speaker 3: At least he's alive. Where's Frico?
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  Speaker 4: He was at Austin City Limits.
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  Speaker 3: Where did he go?
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  Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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  Speaker 3: Where was Frico for a week?
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  Speaker 4: He had the flu and he had diabetes.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he has diabetes.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't know he had diabetes.
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  Speaker 3: So he had the flu and he had diabetes for
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  Speaker 3: a week and he stayed bedridden?
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Is that what happened?
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, the conspiracy theory is about it.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a conspiracy theory.
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  Speaker 2: It is a conspiracy theory. The guy took a week
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  Speaker 2: off before the biggest election of his life.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Because he had the sniffles. No. I've had the flu.
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  Speaker 2: That's a two-day.
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  Speaker 3: Deal at most, right? Have you had diabetes and the flu?
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's dangerous.
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  Speaker 3: Territory to get into it.
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  Speaker 2: I can talk more about my medical history, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: just saying the guy choked.
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  Speaker 3: You're not just saying. It was the final stretch. He
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  Speaker 3: choked like he could. Rico choked like a dog. I
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  Speaker 3: just told that from Trump. He loves saying like a dog.
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  Speaker 3: But he choked, Jessica.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he choked.
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  Speaker 3: You do seem nervous. A couple weeks ago, you were
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  Speaker 3: acting like you guys were going to take the House
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  Speaker 3: and the Senate. The vibe I'm getting from you, Jessica,
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  Speaker 3: sounds nervous. Yeah. Doesn't sound confident. I know confidence, and
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  Speaker 3: I know fake confidence.
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  Speaker 1: Don't disagree with that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh. That was so awesome. I think I
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  Speaker 3: was in the kitchen making a sandwich or something. And
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: here's the thing. If there is anything mildly problematic about
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  Speaker 3: the stupid Ohio Medical Hospital story. It's that it distracts
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  Speaker 3: from something that genuinely is objectively weird and bizarre and
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  Speaker 3: still not well explained, and that is the nearly two
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  Speaker 3: weeks of absence from the campaign trail. It simply makes
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  Speaker 3: no sense. If he had shown up on day eight
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  Speaker 3: or nine or ten, even if he's not camera ready,
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  Speaker 3: looking miserable in bed, just leave somebody a voicemail that says, hey, Ben.
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  Speaker 2: James.
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  Speaker 3: I really feel terrible. I'm sorry. I'll be back out
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  Speaker 3: there with you as soon as possible. But nothing, the
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  Speaker 3: complete absence of anything is what gives rise to the
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  Speaker 3: continuing curiosity about what happened and where he was.
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  Speaker 2: Jesse mentioned his medical condition, was joking about that. I
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  Speaker 2: want to get serious for just a moment, get very,
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  Speaker 2: very personal because I've been struggling with something. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you get– you're not a host that really on your
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  Speaker 2: talk show gets too– I don't know. How personal do
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  Speaker 2: you think you get about Lisa, Ethan, Regina, your family?
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  Speaker 3: Pretty much. I mean, it's funny. It was easier to
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  Speaker 3: do when the kids were kids and I had all
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  Speaker 3: kinds of kid stories. But now that they're all being
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  Speaker 3: grownups in the outside world. But as far as so
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  Speaker 3: now that we're empty nesters and there's nothing better. I
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  Speaker 3: talk about stuff Lisa and I do all the time,
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  Speaker 3: mostly sort of where we've been, things we've discussed. But
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  Speaker 3: I sense I know where you're going about sort of
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  Speaker 3: things that are a little deeper, a little more revelatory.
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  Speaker 3: And my answer is sometimes. But go ahead. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And you're guarded. I mean, you and I have known
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  Speaker 2: each other a long time. And I know there's some
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  Speaker 2: things that are very personal that you don't know. Me,
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  Speaker 2: I just kind of figure I'm going to blab everything.
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  Speaker 2: When it happens, I think it, I say it. And
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  Speaker 2: if it's something personal, and it's not a secret or
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  Speaker 2: a mystery that I've had this medical thing, and you
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  Speaker 2: and I both sort of pursued at our age what
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  Speaker 2: cardiovascular disease looks like, and that's plaque in the old arteries.
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  Speaker 2: And sure enough, they found a blockage, 52% for me
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  Speaker 2: and the widow maker, the LAD, and You had a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of plaque. You've got some plaque, but nothing serious.
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  Speaker 2: And at 52%, I don't need a stent. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: getting in today to see this top-notch cardiologist.
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  Speaker 3: Ah, today's the day. Today's the day.
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  Speaker 2: I see the wizard. I go to the Wizard of Oz.
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  Speaker 2: He's the guy I wanted to get into a couple
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  Speaker 2: weeks ago. He's supposed to be a world-renowned cardiologist. I've
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  Speaker 2: got a bunch of questions for him. But here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if I mention it on the show, people say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: here goes hypochondriac Mike. He's talking about his medical pro.
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  Speaker 2: No one wants to hear. Well, this is pretty serious.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know how not to share at least
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  Speaker 2: an update with the audience. And I'm going to have
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  Speaker 2: to get some criticism because a lady from San Mateo, California,
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  Speaker 2: who loves Eminem Extra, she adores you. She's a big
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  Speaker 2: fan of ours. She said, Mike, we're family. And you're
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  Speaker 2: going through something.
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  Speaker 3: Of course. So I think I will.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't want to— I' m not going to belabor it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to overdo it. But I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: give you a little update. I'll tell you tomorrow how
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  Speaker 2: the visit went today with the cardiologist. I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: Repatha drug that they're—I've got a shot now in my belly.
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  Speaker 2: That's a— I never— I didn't have that on my bingo card,
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  Speaker 2: giving myself a shot. with a little pen here and
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  Speaker 2: the statins that they're giving me. People are all upset
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: about statins because they're supposed to make you get Alzheimer's
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: and they're terrible. And then I've got the doctors telling
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  Speaker 2: me no statin. Anyway, and I want to know if
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  Speaker 2: I can't reduce the damn plaque. That's all I care about. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: There are two values to this. Number one, the lady
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  Speaker 3: from San Mateo is right. It is a family. It
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  Speaker 3: is a personal relationship. This is, I mean, especially in
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  Speaker 3: real time, but podcasts and radio are, Our spoken word
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  Speaker 3: is people speaking in real time. And it is a
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  Speaker 3: personal relationship that TV and print will never be able
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  Speaker 3: to replicate. And then also experiences you have, I have,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's health stuff, travel stuff, consumer stuff. It's word
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  Speaker 3: of mouth. It's something– what's more fun to talk about
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  Speaker 3: with people out there in the wild than things you're
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  Speaker 3: going through, stuff you experience, things you do? It's a
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  Speaker 3: general well of wisdom from, wow, I heard that some
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  Speaker 3: guy did this. I heard another guy did that. And
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  Speaker 3: we've somehow managed to cobble together some legacy of trust
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  Speaker 3: over the years. It doesn't mean we're right on everything.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't mean everybody agrees with us. But there's value
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  Speaker 3: in sharing these things just as I would appreciate people
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  Speaker 3: sharing them with me. So everybody that doesn't like it,
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: you know, take a hike.
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  Speaker 2: So be it. And that's okay. That's why there's chocolate
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  Speaker 2: and vanilla ice cream. I don't mind the criticism. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to give you at least an update and
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  Speaker 2: I'll keep you posted. So today we'll just see how
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  Speaker 2: things go with this hot shot doctor. Please do. And
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  Speaker 2: I'll let you know. It was a day of our
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: Salem folks on TV because I saw Hewitt last night
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  Speaker 2: as well on Fox talking about how bullish he is
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: on the Senate. And I did a little exercise this morning.
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  Speaker 2: We're three weeks from today, 21 days away for the midterms.
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  Speaker 2: For some reason, I didn't want to make my prediction
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  Speaker 2: on the talk show. earlier today, but I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: make the prediction on the podcast over what we think
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  Speaker 2: is going to happen. And if I do it, you
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  Speaker 2: do it. Oh, hell no.
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  Speaker 3: Come on. No.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to make a prediction?
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  Speaker 3: No. You don't want to make a prediction? I don't
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  Speaker 3: think so. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Why not?
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  Speaker 3: It's not a game I play that often. Everybody's just
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: badgering me about a prediction on Paxton and Tallarico. I
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  Speaker 3: am firmly– firmly convinced that he's going to win, that
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  Speaker 3: Ken will win. Will it be by one? Will it
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  Speaker 3: be by nine? I consider anything to be a possibility there.
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  Speaker 3: It's such a weird X factor, swirling cauldron of things.
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  Speaker 3: I had some really small notion that he's going to
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  Speaker 3: win by four. I'd say so, but I don't. It
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  Speaker 3: could be a nail-biter or double digits or anything in between.
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  Speaker 2: But you are predicting that Ken Paxton's going to win.
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  Speaker 3: I suppose I am, but words have meaning, and I
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: will obsess over the meaning of words. A prediction means
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  Speaker 3: this is my.
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  Speaker 3: Specific assertion that this will happen. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Sure. I am just this shy of that because I've
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: been around too long. I've seen too many weird things happen.
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  Speaker 3: It was outright weird when Beto O'Rourke came within two
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  Speaker 3: and a half points of Ted Cruz in 2018. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not saying it's impossible. I'm saying it's highly implausible for
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: Talladega to win. It would be a wholesale change in
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: what Texas even is. So I guess we'll all find
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: out on the third. But the thing is that when
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: I take a look at this, there's an if attached
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: to it. My assertion of the Paxton victory is contingent
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: upon my state being what I think it is. I
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: hope it is. I pray it is. Do I know
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: it like I know my own name?
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: So that's not a lack of– conviction or a lack
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: of confidence in, in my belief. It's just that said,
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: this is what I believe. Let's it's true. It's probably
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: a crazy over-analysis whole thing, but what about what you thought?
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: What about that? What about the house and the Senate?
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: I believe it is a distinct possibility. It is more
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: of a possibility than people think that we keep both
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: the house and the Senate. And I share Hughes bullishness
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: about the Senate in particular because of Tallarico because of
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: El Sayed and maybe boy, Pinch me if this happens.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Maybe Michelle Tafoya winning in Minnesota. I'm probably drinking way
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: too much Minnesota Kool-Aid on that. I would love to
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: think that Michelle Tafoya can win. I mean, she flat
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: out in an attempt to sort of earn more crossover votes.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: She said, listen, I am a proud pro-choice Republican. Which,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: I continue to love her. I mean, she's wrong on abortion,
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: but she's right on so many other things. I would
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: love it if she won. And you want to know why?
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: She's a Minnesota Republican.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Which is like being a New England Republican. It's not
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: going to be like Ted Cruz. It's not going to
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: be like Tommy Tuberville in Alabama. I think her quote was,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: when I agree with Trump, I'm going to be there
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: for Trump when he needs me. And when I can't
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: agree with him, I'm going to be there for the
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: people of Minnesota. That's not a bad quote.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: That's a great quote.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Not a bad quote.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: And this morning, Bill Mellugian reported over at Fox News
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: that they've changed. And, of course, I always get crazy
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: about the categories, about lean.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Leaning, definite.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Leaning, definite, whatever. For the first time ever, though, Fox
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: News is moving that race between Michelle Tafoya and Peggy
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Flanagan from likely Democrat to just lean Democrat. That's right.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Dark blue to light blue.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: The race is significantly tightening. A recent Minneapolis Star Tribune poll,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: now they're far left. That's a rag if there ever
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: was one. They've got it at 47% Flanagan, 43% Tafoya.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Nine percent of voters are still undecided. You know, Republicans
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: haven't held a U.S. Senate seat in Minnesota, Mark, since 2009.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Norm Coleman. There you go. But let me share with
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: you who Peggy Flanagan is. We didn't do a lot
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: on this yesterday, and I asked you last night if
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: you'd spent much time on the Indigenous People Day crap.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: And it is bull crap. I mean, from Kamala to
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: the rest of them. Christopher Columbus was an oppressor.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Casey Musgraves was in Austin last night. Big concert tour.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: She dragged Tallarico on stage in Dallas. She had a
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: big old thing. F Columbus. I mean, it was just like, what?
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: It is not your dad's country music, just saying.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: So anyway. Well, that's a country music star. And again,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I say this over and over, and I mean it.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: They're crazy.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: These are nuts.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: These people are nuts. They're not just misguided. Now, you
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: listen to this, and you tell me if this doesn't
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: sound like a mental patient. You're overhearing a conversation between
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Nurse Ratched and Tonto over there in the ward. Here's
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Peggy Flanagan, the lieutenant governor of the state of Minnesota
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: and Michelle Tafoya's opponent in that U.S. Senate race there.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: I wish the removal had been different, but I am
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: not sad that it's gone. Columbus Legacy was setting in motion.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: generations of violence, rape, and genocide against indigenous people who
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: were already here when he arrived. We have this myth
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: of a man that Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492,
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: And now my daughter knows Columbus as the man who
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: got lost and hurt people.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: The man, she's Lord. Good Lord. She's teaching her kid.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: By the way, Columbus did sail the ocean blue in 1492.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: You big dumb dumb. But she's teaching her daughter. He's
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: a guy who got lost and hurt people.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: As if nobody was ever hurt. This arrival of the
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: evil white people from Europe on this continent is as
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: if everything on this continent was pristine and neighborly, as
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: if the tribes that were here, who have long and
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: proud histories, and I'm glad to celebrate those on any
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: other day, that they were savaging each other and chopping
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: each other's heads off and doing all kinds of raping
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: and robbing and marauding. This is what intertribal interaction was
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: like among the Lakota, among the Cherokee, among the everybody's.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, we were just the biggest, baddest tribe when
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: we arrived. And guess what? Things happened.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: We won, and we were the bigger one. And here's
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: the thing that, to me, I keep coming back to,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: this fundamental question. Can crazy win on the ballot in
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: three weeks? And I don't think it can. I don't
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: think even Minnesotans are going to vote for crazy. There
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: is nothing crazy about life-saving efforts throughout the world like
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Food for the Poor is all about. And one of
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: our great partners here at M & M Extra, you
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: and I have had a chance to go to Guatemala
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: together once. We watch kids line up for their meals.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Food for the Poor is just a beautiful, beautiful ministry.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: They've been at this for 44 years, billions with a B,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: 4.7 billion meals delivered. And right now, families are waiting,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: and we can use your help. Every day without any
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: help is another day that kids are going to go hungry.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: We're asking you to join us. Mark, the gift that
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: this audience can give will add hope and a future
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: to families who need it the most.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: And as people are driving around or what they're doing,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: they're watching or they've got the laptop open or listening
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: on Apple or Spotify or doing the YouTube live stream
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: and thinking, I've got $ 10 I can give to this.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Maybe you've got $ 100. Maybe you've got whatever you've got.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: It's actually FFTP, as in food for the poor. FFTP
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: to 51555. It gives you the donation link. Click on
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: that and give us anything you can. And what you
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: will do is you'll be financing the kind of thing
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: that Mike and I saw. All these children in our
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: arms saw people fed who otherwise would have starved. It
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: really put it in front of us, and that made
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: us storytellers for them and advocates for them. So FFTP
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: to 51555. We are called to do these kinds of
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: things for the least among us here in our hemisphere,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Latin America, the Caribbean. FFTP to 51555.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: And one of our great team members, Yasmin, who is
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: our video producer, and she and Eric work with us
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: on the podcast, and we are so grateful to both
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: of them for all the work they put into this podcast.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Of course, Yasmin reminding me to be sure you like
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: and subscribe. We're trying to do our best here to
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: get the numbers up on the M & M Extra podcast.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: And Yasmin shared with me today that Muse has become
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: a game changer for her. She is now in the
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: AI world. She said it is organizing my emails. And
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: she's right. I mean, Muse will find. The other night,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I needed a receipt. I couldn't find a plane ticket
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: from about six months ago. I said, Muse, find that
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: deleted email from Delta for that flight I took to
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: wherever I went. Within about a minute, it found it
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: because AI is everywhere. But what happens if AI goes wrong?
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: That's the question that Craig W. Stanfill asked at Carbon Zero,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: new techno thriller. He's an AI pioneer. And for weeks
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: and weeks, we promoted the book in advance. I love
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: this guy. He was in studio with me, and I
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: just had a blast hanging out with him. And now
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: the book is available on Amazon. Mark, you loved it.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I loved it. It's called Carbon Zero, a hypothetical scenario.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: What if an AI engineer said, hey, go solve global
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: warming and things do not go well, Mark?
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: No, they do not. Things get positively apocalyptic. It's a
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: dystopian novel by his own admission. If you like those
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: kinds of things where plot lines just go off in
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: crazy directions and then you start to think, Could this happen?
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: First of all, AI, hello. That's just an instant rich,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: deep well of possible plot lines. And then throw in
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: the whole climate change thing. Do we want to do
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: this with climate change or that with climate change? The
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: AI thing says... Hey, why don't you let me handle it?
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Things do not go well at all, but it will
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: go well if you acquire this one wonderful, wonderful book.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Craig Stanfill and Carbon Zero. Enjoy it. I've said a
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: hundred times it has movie written all over it. So
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: get it while it's still in book form. Carbon Zero
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: by our friend Craig W. Stanfill on Amazon or wherever
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: fine books are sold.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: And you're using AI more and more, right? Day to day?
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Sure am.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: I'm a grok guy in the Twitter world for the
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: most part. I have yet to enter the world of fraud,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: and I don't know if there's anything really different about that.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, how many AIs do you need? Lisa's a
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: massive fan of chat GPT for the Q & A
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: and also for graphic things. She makes cute little images
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: of her and a girlfriend drinking wine on a porch
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: in Hawaii, and she'll send it to somebody. Or we're
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: doing a couple's trip next year with some folks, and
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: so she fashioned a picture of the four of us.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: you know, on a ski slope or something like that
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: and sent it to them or like a room, like
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: in a, if she's looking to redo a room, she'll
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: find some stuff on Amazon, this lamp, this rug, and
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: then take an existing picture of the room and then say,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: put this stuff in that room and it'll just do it.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: And it'll look absolutely seamless. So she's a chat GPT person,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: but this muse thing. I've absolutely found myself stumbling across
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: this because what it does is it goes through my email,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: which is just especially one particular, markdavishowatgmail.com, the one I
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: give to everybody. It is an ocean of junk and
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: stuff I don't care about. And I have to pick
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: and choose like needle in a haystack, finding things I'm
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: genuinely interested in. It finds them. It kind of knows
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: my taste. Here's a listener who did this or a
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: pitch on something you might be interested in on the show.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: That's wild. Wild. And look at this medical journey I'm on.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I know more about cardiovascular disease than I ever thought
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I would need to know in my life. And it's
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: all because of Muse, Chachi PT, Grok. Look, I know
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: the likelihood of me having a heart attack tonight. I mean,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: it's got it down to like 8% to 10%. I
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: could have a heart attack because of the 52% blockage
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: I've got in the LAD. I mean, it goes through
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: what could happen, what I'm doing right, what I'm doing wrong.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: It's got me helping me with my PhD with diet
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: and exercise. It's telling me how much I should exercise.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: It's that good. And Yasmin said it. It reminded me
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: of Eric a few months ago. Eric Hansen came into
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: me months ago and said, oh, my gosh. Chat GPT.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I can't believe how good it is. Well, it's not
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: exactly brand new, but it's, but it's new for a
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: lot of us and it's relatively new for millions of people,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: but it's, it's going to be this game. And I've
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: got friends. I had dinner over the weekend in New
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: York with friends of mine. They have banned it from
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: their house. They, and these are, these are two.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: They don't want.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Because they don't want anything to do with it because
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: they think it's evil. They think it's going to destroy humanity.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: They think it's going to take a turn for the worse.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: They think bad faith actors are going to get involved
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: in it. And Mark, they're not, their fears are not unfounded.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: They're not off base about that. But I think, I
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: would think the average grownup would be well served to
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: realize this is coming into our lives. There's nothing we
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: can do about that. But what we can do is
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: navigate it and curate it in ways that are useful
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: and helpful to You know, accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: As the old song lyric goes, I'm somehow managing to
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: do that. You're somehow managing to do that rather than
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: put up, you know, the big, you know, garlic.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I know. Well, they're both they're both actors. The husband
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: and wife are married and they're the little dramatic. So little, little,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: little hyper dramatic. So there's that, you know, there is that.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: But it's it is it's changing everything right now. And
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: we got to, as Jasmine puts it, mitigate the risks
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: of what that development looks like.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Can I give you a drama, a couple of White
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: House dramas real quick, just 60 seconds on each or whatever?
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Please, please.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: So did you get, first day, I'm not going to judge.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: First day on the job, come on, don't judge. No, 100%
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to. Because they're going to bag on
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: her anyway.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: It's already happening. Katie Zachariah, who is an attorney. And
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: it's like 40. I mean, the problem is Caroline Leavitt.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: What is she, 25? And a little blonde girl from
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: New Hampshire. And she was fantastic.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: From the get go out of the gate. She was
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: just a pit bull with these jackals in the White
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: House press room. So Katie Zachariah comes out. It's like,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: good morning. And it's a little valley girly. And it
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: was a little first day jitters. And listen, she's going
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: to be fine. She'll grow into this one hopes. But
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: it's one really, really.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: A friend of mine halfway through the show today. She
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: did the press conference during my show and somebody who
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I really like happens to be a good friend of mine.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: texted and said, well, she's no Caroline Leavitt.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: It's almost unfair. But let's give her some time.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: And they're so mean about stuff like this. Look at
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Michael Dell's wife. Did you see what they did to her?
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: And they just gave billions of dollars for these Trump accounts.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: There you are. They're in league with the devil. And
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: so they are fair game.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: So she, it's all I guess about, I will admit
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: when I saw it, she was like standing kind of awkwardly, right?
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: She was like leaning backwards at the waist. It was
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: a weird look. And then, you know, but I'm not,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: you think I'm going to make fun of anybody's personal appearance? Me?
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Good grief. But they were, they're mean. There's a, I
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: guess the cruelty is what it's all about, Mark.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: The online world is such a cesspool. This is what–
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: the other White House drama is Kimberly Guilfoyle. Don't let
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: me forget what.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: The heck happened there.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: No, let's do it. I'll get to that in one second.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Let's not leave it undone. But the toxicity of the
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: online world may be why even I am peeling off
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: the online execution of Nidal Hasan. You predicted this morning–
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: or was it yesterday? That it's just not going to happen.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: I think that's a sound prediction. Now I think I'm
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: at the point. where I probably don't want it to
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: happen online, not because it's not a good idea or
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: morally strongly based or there's strong arguments to be made,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: but once it's a meme and once everybody's 14-year-old gets
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: it and once it's just out there in this fetid
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: universe that we have, the bad may outweigh the good.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: So I'm probably going to grudgingly count myself among those
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: saying no. They had a good idea, but let's not
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: live stream it.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to stick my neck out and
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: necessarily agree or disagree with you, but because I'm going
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: to I think it's going to be a moot point
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: based on what I'm reading. If I'm reading the tea leaves,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: President Trump doesn't really have a stomach for it. He's
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: been asking people supposedly Axios reports that four different people
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: who he spoke with. said that he's not comfortable with it.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: And if he doesn't like it, they're not going to
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: do it.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: So, you know, it's weird. People are asking the question there.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: And I think they asked Mike Johnson. I think did
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Pete Hegseth himself say, I'm not going to watch it. Dude,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: you're the secretary of war. This is your call. You
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: clearly have to watch it. If people, and listen, by
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: the way, I've said a hundred times, I'm totally watching it.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: If it's there, darn right. A part of it is
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: what I do for a living. But a lot of
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: people are asking that question. Will you watch it? Will
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: you watch it? Are you going to watch it? And people,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: I think, are afraid of if they say yes, of
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: looking like, you know, blunt, thirsty wires. So, OK, so
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: there's that. I think that idea, you know, although although
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: and good idea, bad idea. If you're a presidential advisor,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Mike turns Trump changes, Mike, should we live stream this thing?
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: You would say what?
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I think it's important. I don't understand why we have
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: this skittishness about showing the consequences of such a heinous act.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: And I truly believe it. I mean, there's no shortage.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: If you're on social media, you see people dying every day.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: There are sites that are devoted to terrible deaths that
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  Speaker 2: people experience. In fact, including the one I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: ask you about in a moment or two after we
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  Speaker 2: talk about Kimberly Guilfoyle. About the guy at the Six
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  Speaker 2: Flags roller coaster in Georgia this week. Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: But we see that all the time. There are people
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  Speaker 2: that get executed on social media. They show it. Look,
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  Speaker 2: for years, we've all, as conservatives, we've all agreed, we
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  Speaker 2: ought to bring back public executions. Be a great deterrent. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it would be. There it is. Here's here's a president
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  Speaker 2: who's willing to do it. And a war secretary said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, everybody, everybody. Oh, no, we don't want to
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  Speaker 2: do that.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't mean it.
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  Speaker 2: I know. I take it all back. And Trump me.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Trump means it. He says he means it.
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  Speaker 2: So the only.
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  Speaker 3: Reason he would pull back on that is if he
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  Speaker 3: feels like the optics have become a net negative, which
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  Speaker 3: he may well, which they may have.
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  Speaker 2: Well, but follow the bouncing ball. The other reason he
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  Speaker 2: might go with it is because he doesn't want to
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  Speaker 2: have Axios tell him that reportedly he's changing his mind.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to say, oh, no, I'll stick it to
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  Speaker 2: you guys. We're going to do it anyway. So, you know, look,
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  Speaker 2: it's impossible to keep up. And then there's Kimberly Guilfoyle.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: I'll let you take the ball.
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  Speaker 3: She was named ambassador to Greece. She was a– listen,
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  Speaker 3: she was Gavin Newsom's wife, right? Was she married to
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  Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom?
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  Speaker 2: No. Yeah, I think she was.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Right. Right.
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  Speaker 3: So when he was mayor of San Francisco or.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. He was the mayor. That's right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So and then she became she was in that left
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  Speaker 3: hand seat on Fox News for a while on the
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  Speaker 3: on the five. So speaking of the five. And she's
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  Speaker 3: she is smart. She's lovely. There's a lot going on there.
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  Speaker 3: That's great. I think she was she engaged to Don Jr.
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  Speaker 3: for a while.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: She was.
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  Speaker 3: So we had that. And then I guess I guess
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  Speaker 3: everybody's amicable in this. And she is named ambassador to Greece. OK, great. Fine.
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  Speaker 3: One was during the confirmation process. Apparently, the story arose
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  Speaker 3: and the story has arisen during the confirmation process that
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  Speaker 3: she tried to hit up a Trump donor. to pay
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  Speaker 3: off her American Express bill to the tune of $ 100, 000. Today,
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  Speaker 3: a brand new press secretary, Katie Zacharias, has asked her
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  Speaker 3: to resign.
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  Speaker 2: And she accepted that. She has resigned.
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  Speaker 3: Of course she did. Anybody ever ask to resign and
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  Speaker 3: bows up and says no? Yeah, tell Trump to stick
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  Speaker 3: it in his ear. I'm not doing it. Come get
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  Speaker 3: me in Athens, you pukes.
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  Speaker 2: She released a statement. She said, serving as the United
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  Speaker 2: States ambassador to Greece has been the honor of a lifetime.
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  Speaker 2: I will forever be grateful to President Donald J. Trump
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  Speaker 2: and Secretary of State Marco Rubio for entrusting me with
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  Speaker 2: the extraordinary privilege of representing the greatest country in the world.
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  Speaker 2: For my first day as ambassador, I've worked tirelessly, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 2: She doesn't really. Oh, here she goes. I also want
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  Speaker 2: to address the recent allegations against me. These allegations are false.
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  Speaker 2: And I intend to vigorously defend my name, my reputation
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  Speaker 2: and my integrity.
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  Speaker 3: Well, my first question, if they're false, why step down?
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  Speaker 3: If they're false, why do they ask her to step down?
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. I've dedicated my professional life to fighting
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  Speaker 2: for justice, standing up for what is right. I will
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  Speaker 2: not allow false accusations to define my decades of public service.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. All right.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Go with that, I guess. Go with God.
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  Speaker 3: I had not heard. What happened at Six Flags?
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  Speaker 2: Well, hold on.
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