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Mac & Bone Show - Aaron Duncan Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Dunk unnecessary bluntness. I Dunk on demand on Twitter and
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  Speaker 1: now the New Panther Collective podcast with Sheena Quick and
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  Speaker 1: Joe Person. He has dunk himself. Dunk. What's going on? Man?
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  Speaker 1: How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, fellas? Can't hear me?
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  Speaker 1: There we go, baby, there we go.
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  Speaker 2: We got pre preseason. Man, we don't we don't overreact
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  Speaker 2: the preseason.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. Isn't it funny though?
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  Speaker 2: Dunk?
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  Speaker 1: We sitting here, We sitting here criticizing every Panther that
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  Speaker 1: did bad on Saturday, and now we're screwing up. Oh man,
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  Speaker 1: what did you so? What did you think of the
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  Speaker 1: first team offense and the performance? I mean, is it
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  Speaker 1: all on the offensive line? Is there anythingbody else to criticize? What?
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  Speaker 1: What did what did you make of their nine play stint?
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  Speaker 2: I think we don't get a first down until inside
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  Speaker 2: the too many warning and that came from a flag.
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  Speaker 2: It's a collective effort. But you gotta you gotta kind
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  Speaker 2: of look at the n sery O line and it
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  Speaker 2: just shows the value of Rob Hunt and Dame Lewis.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, these guys we paid a lot of money
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  Speaker 2: forty much of the years go and we saw the
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  Speaker 2: kind of run game. Take a step back last year
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  Speaker 2: without rob Hunt, but like without both of them this
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  Speaker 2: this game, it's pretty it was pretty alarming. Deon Walker
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  Speaker 2: looked like Reggie White out there dominating us. So, like,
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  Speaker 2: we know we need that interior offensive line and it
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  Speaker 2: kind of starts to ends with the running game, and
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  Speaker 2: it starts to ends with them. So if we can't
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  Speaker 2: get that run game going, I think they kind of
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  Speaker 2: sets it off for the rest of our offense. And
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  Speaker 2: that was missing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, dunk, How hard is it to evaluate anything involving
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  Speaker 3: Bryce the receiving game, the run game, when what you
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  Speaker 3: just talked about how bad the offensive line was. We
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  Speaker 3: have a lot of people criticizing Bryce today. How do
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  Speaker 3: you know that the offense couldn't do anything without any
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  Speaker 3: time back there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough, you know, because we invested in those
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  Speaker 2: guards because of Bryce being the shorter quarterback and knowing
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  Speaker 2: how deadly interior pressure can be. You know, he can
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  Speaker 2: kind of finesse around the tackles, missing and doing whatever,
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  Speaker 2: but that interior it's tough with anything. And so again,
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  Speaker 2: just like being able to get a look at anybody,
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  Speaker 2: it's tough. You know, Bryce is back there you can
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  Speaker 2: tell it's clockless. You have to get working on getting
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  Speaker 2: that clock back together after you haven't had a lot
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  Speaker 2: of live bullets, and so between that and the receivers, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's it's tough to get anything going as we
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  Speaker 2: can see.
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  Speaker 1: So do you think it is as simple though as like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: Zavala and Brady Christiansen struggled, But as long as we
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  Speaker 1: have Hunt and Lewis healthy, were good. I thought had
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  Speaker 1: some rough moments too, like is it just a depth issue, which,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, I don't know why I'm minimizing that
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  Speaker 1: because that's not like O Lineman get hurt. That's not
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  Speaker 1: a good issue either. But do you think it's just
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  Speaker 1: a depth issue with this O line, Yeah, definitely a
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  Speaker 1: depth issue.
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  Speaker 2: But I keep harping on him. But those guys they
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  Speaker 2: elevate the guys around and Rob Plant and Damian Lewis.
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  Speaker 2: Damian Lewis has been a god seeing for Ikeya Kwandu
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  Speaker 2: and Rob Hunt just having him on the other side.
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  Speaker 2: We've had multiple sinners, We've had Corbett over the years,
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  Speaker 2: We've had May's, we've had Christensen, but when we've had
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  Speaker 2: at least Damian Lewis or Rob Hunt. It's helped all
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  Speaker 2: of them play a lot better, you know, and so
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  Speaker 2: the combos a lot, Chrisper, you get a lot more
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  Speaker 2: movement when you have bigger bodies, because Brady Christmas is
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  Speaker 2: not the biggest guy in the world. You standing next
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  Speaker 2: to Rob Hunt, you can see it stark different. So
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  Speaker 2: I just think having those guys, they're kind of straw
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  Speaker 2: that first drink, you know.
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  Speaker 3: For our offense, Doug, what stood out to you defensively,
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  Speaker 3: both positively and negatively on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: Well, positively, we have a pass rush, so thank the
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  Speaker 2: Lord for that. And Princely, I mean, don't I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what the switch was. I don't know if he
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  Speaker 2: was bummed because he didn't think he was gonna have
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  Speaker 2: to play in the Hall of Fame game. And then
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  Speaker 2: once he got the message, you know, they sent a
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  Speaker 2: message to him and he did that and he played well.
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  Speaker 2: But having that pass rush, duo, I mean, it just
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  Speaker 2: it helped a lot and a lot of we thought
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  Speaker 2: kind of that, Okay, Phillips was gonna be the guy
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  Speaker 2: command attention and set up everybody else to do better.
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  Speaker 2: But Princely kind of led the charge himself starting that
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  Speaker 2: off and I think I saw four he hit the
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  Speaker 2: quarterback four different times on his drops, and so I
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  Speaker 2: was excited about that pass rush overall. But the con
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  Speaker 2: irons is obviously the big places. I mean, they tightened
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  Speaker 2: up in the reds on a few times getting that pressure,
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  Speaker 2: but you can't have that many blone coverages. So it's
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  Speaker 2: just frustrating that what we thought was our consistent point
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  Speaker 2: was our secondary that we finally got a pass versus
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  Speaker 2: like we're plugging one hole and another league pops up.
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  Speaker 2: They got to figure those things out.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, if Princely was a little down the Hall of
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  Speaker 1: Fame game because he thought he was going to be
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  Speaker 1: in a jumpsuit, dunk I can relate to that. It's
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  Speaker 1: like thinking bone that you're gonna get a holiday off
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  Speaker 1: and then you're informed know you're working, You know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean. I feel like it might it might, it
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  Speaker 1: might mess with your mind. What did you think, Dunked
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  Speaker 1: about a couple of these coaching decisions in terms of
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  Speaker 1: playing time. The one was not sending the guys out
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  Speaker 1: for another series right and only playing them nine Canal
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  Speaker 1: has said, hey, we basically had a three series cap
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  Speaker 1: on the offense, and then one that I thought was
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  Speaker 1: even weirder was the defense, Like Gibson looks like he
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  Speaker 1: gets us off the field with a third down sack,
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  Speaker 1: he got the face mask. I wanted to see, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: can the defense hold them again like they did in
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  Speaker 1: the first drive, and then all of a sudden, all
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  Speaker 1: the backups are coming in in the middle of the series.
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  Speaker 1: Did you have a problem with either one of those approaches?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the substitution's mid drive were a little weird, like
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  Speaker 2: it was a face man. It wasn't like it was
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  Speaker 2: a challenge or like somebody got hurt and it was
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  Speaker 2: like a long extended period of stoppics between the plays.
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  Speaker 2: It was just kind of like, I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if you even call it the hockey substitutions. It
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  Speaker 2: was like it just came out of nowhere. You didn't
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  Speaker 2: you didn't realize it happened until you saw, like weekly,
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  Speaker 2: he's a weekly making a tackle down the field. We're like,
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  Speaker 2: wait a minute, they see it everybody else. So that
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  Speaker 2: was a little bit weird to me, and we I
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  Speaker 2: guess we do things at orthodox, but I just never
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  Speaker 2: seen that one. But the drive with the offense, man,
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  Speaker 2: I'm actually I actually kind of understood what the earned
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  Speaker 2: rep things is. Now I had a problem with you
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  Speaker 2: last year, but my god, if you can't get a
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  Speaker 2: first down on three series, you don't deserve it. You
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  Speaker 2: couldn't earn us We set it down. So yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: didn't earn yourself more playing time. So I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what going out there against the twos and the threes
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  Speaker 2: of the Bills would have did to prove anything, because
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  Speaker 2: if we struggled again and fans are going to be
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  Speaker 2: even more mad.
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  Speaker 1: So if we couldn't block the twosh.
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  Speaker 2: More good more games and the more practices and we
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  Speaker 2: got some good defenses and dependents we can go against
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  Speaker 2: to really try to sharpen our shop our sword.
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  Speaker 3: Looking coming up, Doug one guy that's been impressive, whether
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  Speaker 3: it's been the practices, the fan fast in the games. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: I've really liked aj Dillon. I didn't realize he had
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  Speaker 3: the ability to catch the ball like he does. And
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  Speaker 3: now looking at this roster, I've even thought, is there
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  Speaker 3: a is there an h pack role with his size?
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  Speaker 3: Is there a maybe not a tight end spot for him,
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  Speaker 3: but a role that is similar where he can do
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  Speaker 3: multiple things? Do you do you see a roster spot
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  Speaker 3: here for Dylan and what have you thought of him
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  Speaker 3: so far?
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  Speaker 2: No, I agree with you. It's all around skill said
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  Speaker 2: yea is pretty unique and for a guy that size,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and he moves well. He looked exposed to
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  Speaker 2: if he has some juice, been in that Hall of
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  Speaker 2: Fame game and even on the past game as well,
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  Speaker 2: Like he just looks he looks the part, and for
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  Speaker 2: he's just a different body type than what we had.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if we'll be able to keep four
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  Speaker 2: running backs. I doubt they do anything and move off
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  Speaker 2: of ETN this earlist, especially with him being the primary
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  Speaker 2: returner and guy like that. But man, he's he's a
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  Speaker 2: load and we can shure yards. We could definitely use
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  Speaker 2: something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you said it, versatility. It's like, okay, you got
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  Speaker 1: that in your bag too. We know you got the
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  Speaker 1: big body. So yeah, I'm definitely intrigued as well. But
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  Speaker 1: then it comes down to roster math. What do you thinking,
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  Speaker 1: Dunk about the wide receivers we were talking earlier. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think you can deny that in the preseason games,
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  Speaker 1: Horn and jaseim Reid I think have done themselves some good.
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  Speaker 1: But then the question is Okay, where's the cut line
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  Speaker 1: of wide receiver? Who do you think at the back
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  Speaker 1: who do you like at the back end wide receiver spots?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got to be the same red right. Like,
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  Speaker 2: he's gone from almost hey we have to get this
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  Speaker 2: guy in a three man roster to hey, we may
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  Speaker 2: need to actually get him into rotation. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 2: been dependable. He had that one drop in the Hall
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  Speaker 2: of Fame game, but he scored in both games. He's
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  Speaker 2: looked explosively with the ball in his hands. He made
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  Speaker 2: some tough catches. He could play all three receiver positions,
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  Speaker 2: so he saved some rosters space there. So that's definitely
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  Speaker 2: a guy that you have to kind of pretty much
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  Speaker 2: come into the equation. And Jimmy, I mean what we
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  Speaker 2: saw in the Hall of Fame game, from the route running,
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  Speaker 2: what we saw some of the route running in this
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  Speaker 2: recent game, and just the suddenness and the quickness. It
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  Speaker 2: seems like Jimmy just needs opportunities more than more than
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  Speaker 2: anything else. He's a little bit more than a gadget guy.
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  Speaker 2: So we just got to give him the ball a
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  Speaker 2: few times, get him some targets. But I agree with you,
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  Speaker 2: I like those two guys to make it in there,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll see what Messi does. I mean Messi had
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  Speaker 2: had a touchdown as well, but the consistent production just
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  Speaker 2: all over the field hasn't been there compared to Jimmy
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  Speaker 2: and Jassin. So I'll be curious to see how things
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  Speaker 2: shake out. But these things usually work themselves out.
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  Speaker 1: There's still a lot of ball that he played, METSI
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  Speaker 1: definitely feels like he's falling behind those guys. That's you know,
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  Speaker 1: even though he made the play when he was in there,
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  Speaker 1: it does feel that way, all right, brother, Well, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to defer to you on this. Tell us
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  Speaker 1: because you got now, you've got Panthers collective, you got
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  Speaker 1: your stuff going tell everybody where to find you, so
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  Speaker 1: I don't so you make sure everybody catches it and
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  Speaker 1: I don't screw it up like it's a Panther preseason drive?
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  Speaker 1: Where where are what all you have going on right now?
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  Speaker 1: Because you're blowing.
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  Speaker 2: Up, man, I appreciate it. Yeah, I'm You can follow
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  Speaker 2: super exciting and so uh you can finally you can
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  Speaker 1: All right, man, keep up the good work man. The
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  Speaker 1: new podcast is good, so keep up the good work
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  Speaker 1: and thanks for hanging with us.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Fellis