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How To Strengthen Your Own Intuition + Why Manifesting isn't the End Goal with: Psychic Medium Carissa Schumacher · QUESTION EVERYTHING

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Speaker 1: Big things happen when you're pretty, pretty bold, pretty clever,
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Speaker 1: pretty strong. I'm Danielle Robe and each week my guests
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Speaker 1: and I have conversations that put a new spin on pretty.
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Speaker 1: This is pretty smart. CHRISA. Schumacher is a psychic medium, intuitive,
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Speaker 1: and channel with a list clients. Some of them are
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Speaker 1: reported and some are rumored Jennifer Aniston, Brad Pitt, Uma Thurman,
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Speaker 1: Maria Shriver, and Rooney Mara. But you won't find Chrissa
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Speaker 1: anywhere near Hollywood. She has no social media, almost no
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Speaker 1: online presence. And today Chris is doing something she rarely does.
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Speaker 1: She's sitting down with me for an interview. Now. Since
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Speaker 1: she was a little girl, Chrissa has always seen and
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Speaker 1: spoken to dead people. She then studied neuroscience at Brown
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Speaker 1: University to get a deeper scientific understanding of her own gift.
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Speaker 1: In fact, she tried to have a quote normal life
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Speaker 1: and career. Well. Then spirit called and she couldn't ignore
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Speaker 1: it any longer. Chrisa began working as an empathic, intuitive,
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Speaker 1: and psychic medium, doing a lot of pro bono work
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Speaker 1: on crime investigations. Around twenty nineteen, she began channeling Yeshua,
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Speaker 1: also known as Jesus. She says, the transmissions are not
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Speaker 1: particularly religious, and per our interview, it seems that the
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Speaker 1: messages he delivers through her help clients connect themselves and
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Speaker 1: live purpose driven lives. In some sense or another. We're
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Speaker 1: all seeking peace and healing, understanding of ourselves and who
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Speaker 1: we're meant to be. So today we're going to learn
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Speaker 1: all about Chris's incredible gifts and how a spiritual mindset
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Speaker 1: can help us feel closer to and better understand ourselves. Chris,
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Speaker 1: can you tell me about the very first time that
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Speaker 1: you felt your intuitive abilities.
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Speaker 2: I was in a crib and I remember looking out
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Speaker 2: at the rain, and I couldn't have been more than
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Speaker 2: two or three years old. It's actually probably one of
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Speaker 2: my first memories, and I remember looking out at the
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Speaker 2: rain falling on the patty and just seeing prisms of
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Speaker 2: light and moving energy. After that moment, I knew that
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Speaker 2: I had a special connection to spirit. Of course, as
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Speaker 2: a child, you think that that's normal. It's your reality,
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Speaker 2: is really all you know. So it wasn't until I
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Speaker 2: got older that the wake up call came that, oh,
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Speaker 2: not everybody sees energy fields, and not everybody has imaginary friends.
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Speaker 2: That really an imaginary, they're actually spirit people that have
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Speaker 2: transitioned or crossed over. So the realization of it not
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Speaker 2: being normal was difficult within my life, especially as you know,
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Speaker 2: as a young person, you just so want to be
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Speaker 2: a part of community and be a part of your surroundings.
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Speaker 2: But I'm a lifer. It's been there from the beginning,
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Speaker 2: and there have been times in my life that it
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Speaker 2: has felt like a burden to connect to spirit and
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Speaker 2: to the vertical dimension instead of I call the spirit
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Speaker 2: space the vertical dimension and the human space the horizontal.
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Speaker 2: But I wouldn't change it for the world.
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Speaker 1: How do you think people find connection to spirit. I
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Speaker 1: know I found it later in my life through presence.
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Speaker 2: The intersection of the human and the divine is within
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Speaker 2: the space of the present that we think we're very
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Speaker 2: much focused not on the present. The horizontal conditions us
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Speaker 2: from the very beginning to be looking towards tomorrow or
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Speaker 2: what happened yesterday, or looking to the periphery and what
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Speaker 2: is around us and what are people thinking. And the
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Speaker 2: connection to spirit is not anything that is bound in
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Speaker 2: the external. It's bound through the internal, and it's through
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Speaker 2: that presence that that connection to that level of consciousness,
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Speaker 2: that level, that point of origin or intersection between the
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Speaker 2: divinity that is really just the timeless light that exists
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Speaker 2: within a person is able to emerge and shine through.
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Speaker 2: And there are moments where someone needs to experience something
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Speaker 2: very profound, like a dire illness, like a dream, like
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Speaker 2: a vision, just to experience that snap with a blink
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Speaker 2: of a finger in that moment, all the sudden they
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Speaker 2: awaken and then all of a sudden where they couldn't
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Speaker 2: feel or connect to spirit or divinity or even judged it,
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it just turns on. That's not
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Speaker 2: the norm when someone in their soul contracts goes into
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Speaker 2: that process of what I call the transcendence that rapidly. Normally,
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Speaker 2: the movement into that transcendence is something that happens in
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Speaker 2: stages or tears, meaning that you evolve through this lesson
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Speaker 2: and integrate that and then go through another shadow period
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Speaker 2: and realize the next level. But this is all to
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Speaker 2: say that the transcendence, which is what you're referring to,
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Speaker 2: inherent to that connection, feeling an alignment with Spirit, offering
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Speaker 2: your life as a service to Spirit in whatever way
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Speaker 2: you're designed to do. So, that is something that happens
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Speaker 2: to every soul at the end of the day, and
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Speaker 2: it really starts with being present and having the humility
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Speaker 2: to listen listen, which is not something that we're even
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Speaker 2: really taught to do when it comes to spirituality. We're
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Speaker 2: taught to pray, we're taught to talk, or we're taught
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Speaker 2: to meditate and clear all of our all of our
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Speaker 2: thoughts and all of that. But there is a listening
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Speaker 2: component that is not about listening to voices that are
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Speaker 2: talking in your ears. The listening component is the receiving component,
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Speaker 2: getting on the case, that presence, that remembrance of what
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Speaker 2: is that you need to realize within that moment. So important,
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Speaker 2: but every soul is going to get there someday, and
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Speaker 2: someday can be today for those that really are interested
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Speaker 2: and feel the genuine desire, and it needs to be
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Speaker 2: a willingness, a curiosity, but also really a desire to
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Speaker 2: connect to spirit in that way, because it takes some
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Speaker 2: discipline to tune out of all the rigmarole and the
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Speaker 2: horizontal to take the time and the space for the
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Speaker 2: movement into the vertical and light and piece.
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Speaker 1: For people that do have the desire, where can they
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Speaker 1: start to feel connected.
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Speaker 2: The first connection point really needs to begin within self.
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Speaker 2: And I know that this isn't the pretty dazzling response
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Speaker 2: that people would love to hear, where Carrissa says, do
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Speaker 2: this process and meditate and buy these products and you'll
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Speaker 2: be enlightened. That's not how it works. Each person has
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Speaker 2: a very different essence and how they channel, where the
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Speaker 2: channel exists within them, the levels of the throughput of
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Speaker 2: energy through their body. First step is that you really
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Speaker 2: need to set aside the time to be able to
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Speaker 2: get into your body, out of your mind and into
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Speaker 2: your body, because the way that spirit, including your spirit,
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Speaker 2: communicates with you is a different form of programming that
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Speaker 2: the eyes and ears aren't really used to. So getting
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Speaker 2: into your body, learning how to breathe, being able to
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Speaker 2: clear your thoughts is really the first step. And once
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Speaker 2: you are in that space where you're in your body,
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Speaker 2: cleared out, willing to receive, you allow yourself to receive
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Speaker 2: without judgment. And some people get very frustrated because they're like,
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Speaker 2: I'm not receiving anything, or I thought I saw an orb.
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Speaker 2: Was that an orb? I don't know? Maybe I was
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Speaker 2: making up that orb. You know, they have all these
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Speaker 2: thought doubts that come in, and so for the first
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Speaker 2: part of really structuring a meditation process or a prayer process,
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Speaker 2: you may have to sit for the first couple of
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Speaker 2: weeks saying you know comes in, no thought, no thought,
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Speaker 2: no training yourself on how to tune in and the intuition,
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Speaker 2: if we're speaking about that aspect of connecting to the divine,
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Speaker 2: the intuition is very much like a muscle. And the
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Speaker 2: more that you are taking the time to breathe, taking
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Speaker 2: the space, doing the automatic writing on a sustained basis,
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Speaker 2: your entire inner energy field changes and very rapidly what
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Speaker 2: what your service is starts to shine through. From there,
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Speaker 2: things start becoming more clear. Not necessarily and your outside
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Speaker 2: life right away, but within you, everyone has that connection.
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Speaker 2: It's built in to your being. Every single person on
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Speaker 2: this planet is a channel in their own way. Whatever
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Speaker 2: you were uniquely designed to do within this life will
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Speaker 2: a bring joy to you to all of those around you.
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Speaker 2: It will move into the service that is the giving
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Speaker 2: that feels like the receiving, where there's reciprocity. But tuning
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Speaker 2: into spirit certainly is not just about all the spirit
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Speaker 2: energies that are floating around you and how to access
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Speaker 2: them and received messages from your loved ones. There are
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Speaker 2: people myself included, that were born with the ability to
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Speaker 2: bring some of those messages through. But this is all
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Speaker 2: to say that it's very Your relationship with the divine
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Speaker 2: is so unique, and others can guide you, teach you,
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Speaker 2: shepherd you that have been there before and gone through
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Speaker 2: that process, but ultimately it's up to you to forge
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Speaker 2: that relationship with the Divine, be it through Christ, be
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Speaker 2: it through light, even be it through nothing at all.
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Speaker 2: If you believe in nothing at all, that doesn't mean
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Speaker 2: that you can't still have access to that vertical plane
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Speaker 2: of consciousness and presence.
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Speaker 1: I read that you began channeling Yeshua and if people
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Speaker 1: don't know, that's Jesus in twenty nineteen, and I had
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Speaker 1: never heard about somebody channeling Yeshua before. Can you describe
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Speaker 1: what that is like and what that means.
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Speaker 2: In the ways that he comes through my particular channel.
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Speaker 2: There have been others, many, many people on the planet
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Speaker 2: that have felt the presence of Yeshuah received messages from him,
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Speaker 2: and it's rather interesting how universal the similarities are of
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Speaker 2: all of these different people that have had encounters. Be
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Speaker 2: it in dreams, near death experiences, or channeling to a
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Speaker 2: certain extent, he is always one of my favorite things
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Speaker 2: about him, and I did not expect this. I'm so honest.
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Speaker 2: He's so unconditionally loving. But he is also so funny.
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Speaker 2: When you can't recognize your own divinity and are feeling
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Speaker 2: horrible about yourself, he will remind you of your divinity
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Speaker 2: and through that strength of that faith and divinity help
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Speaker 2: you to be able to walk forwards as he's holding
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Speaker 2: your hand through the process. But he is so funny,
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Speaker 2: and he tells it. He tells it like it is,
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Speaker 2: which is really hard for me as his channel, because
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Speaker 2: every day I just it's like one humbling lesson after
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Speaker 2: the next. He's more evolved, he's more intelligent, unconditionally loving,
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Speaker 2: totally respects my boundaries. I am not yesual, as I
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Speaker 2: say in the Free Transmissions, I'm not even close to
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Speaker 2: as realized as within the power of his source energy.
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Speaker 2: But the beautiful thing about his offerings, at least in
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Speaker 2: the way that he comes through my channel, is that
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Speaker 2: that's not what's expected of us. We're not expected to
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Speaker 2: be perfect all the time. All of the expectations that
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Speaker 2: the outside world gives us on how perfect we're supposed
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Speaker 2: to be and how we're supposed to get it all right.
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Speaker 2: None of those exist. Yeahshua just has a way of
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Speaker 2: making you feel okay about where it is that you
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Speaker 2: are right now, but also igniting some of that light
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Speaker 2: within you that feels a call to move into your
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Speaker 2: deeper service and passion through peace. So since he's been
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Speaker 2: coming forward, he has given some just astounding, deeply original transmissions.
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Speaker 2: I channel him predominantly on Journeys in Sedona, and then
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Speaker 2: of course and The Freedom Transmissions, the book that was
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Speaker 2: released last November.
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Speaker 1: I started reading it two weeks ago, and to me,
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Speaker 1: it was almost like an anthology television series instead of
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Speaker 1: like if you start a TV series from the beginning,
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Speaker 1: or if it's like second season, you don't want to
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Speaker 1: start because you can't catch up. Whereas the Freedom Transmissions,
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Speaker 1: you can almost open it to any page and find
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Speaker 1: something that you feel connected to. Oftentimes, studies will suggest
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Speaker 1: that deja vu is or excuse me, that a gut
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Speaker 1: instinct is actually just deja vu, And deja vu is
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Speaker 1: just like an amalgamation of experiences that you've had that
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Speaker 1: seem reminiscent. And then there's this deep knowing that's just
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Speaker 1: impossible to describe that sets you off on a certain
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Speaker 1: direction in a relationship or a career. Is it difficult
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Speaker 1: to discern between the two? How can we recognize what
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Speaker 1: is a familiar experience versus what is a deep knowing?
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Speaker 2: What you're speaking to is actually the same thing expressed
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Speaker 2: in two different ways. So it's not one are the
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Speaker 2: other our beings, our presence, our essence, our true selves,
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Speaker 2: our true reality is the unseen. I can see the
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Speaker 2: person that is Danielle, but I can't see your soul,
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Speaker 2: your memories, all aspects of your spirit. Almost ninety percent
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Speaker 2: of each human being is actually in the unseen. So
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Speaker 2: within the unseen, within the full gamut of your spiritself,
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Speaker 2: your divine self, everything is already complete. Everything is already known,
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Speaker 2: everything is already realized, Everything is already so in your
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Speaker 2: source origin, everything that you need, all memories, everything that
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Speaker 2: you need access to already exists within you. So the
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Speaker 2: moments that you're describing are when you're going along the
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Speaker 2: horizontal and bam, you have a moment of deep seated connection.
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Speaker 2: It can be your soul rising forward, a moment where
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Speaker 2: just your mind turns off and your soul just reveals
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Speaker 2: something to you, and it can feel like deja vous,
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Speaker 2: or it can feel like a very deep knowing, but
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Speaker 2: that knowing is almost it doesn't feel like a new knowing.
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Speaker 2: Usually when that knowing comes, it feels familiar, it feels
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Speaker 2: almost old, it feels like it's a part of you.
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Speaker 2: It's like a revelation. And so what is happening when
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Speaker 2: you're tapping into those moments is you are connecting very
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Speaker 2: deeply to the vertical plane and you are accessing the
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Speaker 2: part of yourself that remembers. The remembering aspect comes through
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Speaker 2: the vertical in many ways. In the horizontal we're learning.
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Speaker 2: In the vertical, we're remembering. And so in those moments
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Speaker 2: when you're in the vertical deja vus, you are remembering
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Speaker 2: that experience, even if you've never been to that place
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Speaker 2: with those people before, because it's already occurred. Time is nonlinear.
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Speaker 2: It's only in physical form that we are in linear time.
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Speaker 2: And so in that nonlinear moment you're tip, you're dipping
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Speaker 2: in to a remembering or a knowing or connection. And
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Speaker 2: it's the same in those moments where there's just an
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Speaker 2: intuition knowing that remembering and all of a sudden, you remember,
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Speaker 2: And the next part of that process is the process
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Speaker 2: of revelation. So it is through that emergence of that
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Speaker 2: remembering and that knowing that all of a sudden the
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Speaker 2: revelation comps. And I prefer revelation to manifestation. Yashua just
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Speaker 2: talked about this on the March Journey. There's a lot
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Speaker 2: of focus in the world on manifestation, manifestation workshops and
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Speaker 2: seminars and got to manifest, manifest and even the word
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Speaker 2: manifest comes from the word manu, which means hands. It
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Speaker 2: requires your hands to there's work that is associated with manifestation.
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Speaker 2: And my issue sometimes with it is that the ego
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Speaker 2: can sometimes hijack manifestation and narrow it to almost exclusively
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Speaker 2: three D things. Got to manifest the relationship in order
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Speaker 2: to be happy, and that is so narrow and limiting.
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Speaker 2: What you need that relationship to complete? You? What about
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Speaker 2: this thing over here that could also bring joy and
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Speaker 2: completion to your life. So sometimes manifestation can get someone
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Speaker 2: so focused over here that they're forgetting about the whole
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Speaker 2: other grouping of things and possibilities that are there for them,
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Speaker 2: or even in deeper alignment for them the revelation. The
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Speaker 2: revelation is that movement of the unseen into the scene,
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Speaker 2: which is they're kind of this miraculous feeling to it.
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Speaker 2: It's almost effortless in the ways that things are revealed.
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Speaker 2: It's different than just an epiphany. You know, there's you know,
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Speaker 2: something comes to your mind and it causes a shift
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Speaker 2: in your behaviors. But epiphany is really more about self.
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Speaker 2: It's more about you. Elation has this whole other energy
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Speaker 2: that is inclusive and co creative. A perfect example is
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Speaker 2: you at a certain moment there was the shift that
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Speaker 2: came in your life and just that knowing of what
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Speaker 2: you needed to create, and then the path revealed itself
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Speaker 2: and people come in and people are excited, and your
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Speaker 2: vehicle is growing, and there's just this movement of the
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Speaker 2: vertical into the horizontal. When it's a big mistake to
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Speaker 2: just focus on manifestation and the horizontal accomplished manifest all
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Speaker 2: of these things, and then maybe I'll be able to
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Speaker 2: connect to the vertical. That is a very very that's
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Speaker 2: a life of struggle and suffering. Way better to receive
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Speaker 2: what you need from the vertical, even if it takes
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Speaker 2: months or years to wait for that big knowing or
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Speaker 2: that revelation. Let it be because it really will come.
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Speaker 2: Oh yes always.
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Speaker 1: Wow, that really hit me because it's so difficult to
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Speaker 1: not feel like you're being proactive. There's like this sense
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Speaker 1: of urgency so many of us have. And so you're
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Speaker 1: saying that some of this is about timing, that you
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Speaker 1: just have to let it.
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Speaker 2: Be absolutely, because it's not a mind level choice. The
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Speaker 2: soul does not operate on the mind's timeline. The soul
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Speaker 2: or the spirit, the soul is within us. The spirit
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Speaker 2: is what emanates from the strings that come out of
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Speaker 2: our spirit, connecting us to everything in the external world.
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Speaker 2: So your soul does not run on linear time. It
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Speaker 2: will tolerate linear time. It's aware that you maybe only
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Speaker 2: have seventy or ninety years to live on this planet.
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Speaker 2: But your soul is not interested in being a slave
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Speaker 2: to your mind. And so in your mind is trying
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Speaker 2: to say, you know, Soul, reveal the path to me,
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Speaker 2: Why isn't this working within my life? It's not working,
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Speaker 2: And I don't want to do the meditations and take
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Speaker 2: the time or whatever else it is. You're just gonna
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Speaker 2: wind up getting super prostrated with yourself in an unnecessary way.
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Speaker 2: greater collective mind, and it's important for us to recognize
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Speaker 2: that because within our society there's a lot of me
25:34
Speaker 2: and I'm so conscious, but that person is deeply unconscious.
25:38
Speaker 2: And no, we're all in kind of various stages and dimensions,
25:42
Speaker 2: but we need to be a little bit careful about
25:45
Speaker 2: the judgment and the words that we throw around. With
25:48
Speaker 2: that being said, there has been a massive, massive search
25:54
Speaker 2: and I said that this would happen in twenty nineteen.
25:57
Speaker 2: I did it during a channeling because I saw what
26:00
Speaker 2: was coming for the world in twenty twenty and I
26:03
Speaker 2: talked a lot about that in prior years. I won't
26:05
Speaker 2: get into it, but I was like, oh, no, no, no, no,
26:09
Speaker 2: there is going to be a huge strengthening of the
26:12
Speaker 2: collective ego that comes. And sure enough, you know, COVID
26:16
Speaker 2: was in some ways like the perfect storm for the
26:19
Speaker 2: collective ego because you have a lot of people who
26:21
Speaker 2: are encouraged to be separate. You know, that person is
26:25
Speaker 2: stick stick stay away from them. So there was the isolation.
26:29
Speaker 2: There was also distrust, collective distrust that of arch because
26:34
Speaker 2: we didn't know, you know, the information that we were
26:36
Speaker 2: being given was wrong. Knew nobody knew what was happening.
26:40
Speaker 2: People that we trusted that said do this, the next
26:44
Speaker 2: day they were saying, no, don't do that. So there
26:46
Speaker 2: was a lot of collective uncertainty. And whenever there's a
26:49
Speaker 2: lot of collective uncertainty or fear rippling through, people really
26:54
Speaker 2: grip on to the ego because of course, the ego
26:57
Speaker 2: is the part of us that very much makes us
26:59
Speaker 2: feel safe. So we have that. But in addition to that,
27:04
Speaker 2: we have moved, we have shifted as a society from
27:10
Speaker 2: a space of rather traditional types of roles into a
27:19
Speaker 2: space where, yes, we have more freedom. However that we
27:24
Speaker 2: have infinitely more expectations that are thrust on our shoulders,
27:30
Speaker 2: and that is very hard for people to maneuver through.
27:35
Speaker 2: So let's a good example of what I'm trying to
27:37
Speaker 2: express is, say one hundred years ago, if you went
27:41
Speaker 2: to a grocery store, there was like water, two ice
27:47
Speaker 2: creams to choose from. Intoday's world, you go into a
27:51
Speaker 2: grocery store and there's eight thousand different ice creams to
27:56
Speaker 2: choose from, and it's overwhelming. Even women one hundred years ago,
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Speaker 2: before birth control, what was available to them, even in
28:06
Speaker 2: terms of options in the workforce, Yes, they had very
28:10
Speaker 2: little choices and that needed to be shifted. But now,
28:13
Speaker 2: holy smokes, you know you're expected to be the perfect
28:18
Speaker 2: mother to pick out the right ice cream has to
28:21
Speaker 2: be just the right ice cream, and if you get
28:23
Speaker 2: the ice cream wrong, your life is screwed. You know.
28:26
Speaker 2: We're supposed to be very successful in the business space.
28:30
Speaker 2: And also it's the same expectations that have been added
28:33
Speaker 2: and added and added with men as well. So while
28:38
Speaker 2: we have more freedoms, we also don't have the simplicity
28:43
Speaker 2: that we've had in the past, the simplicity of waking
28:47
Speaker 2: up to the sound of the chickens and going out
28:51
Speaker 2: and milking the cows so that you can even have
28:54
Speaker 2: food on your table that day. Yes, so we've lost that.
28:59
Speaker 2: And because more of our primitive survival needs are now met,
29:05
Speaker 2: we used to have to tune into more what are
29:07
Speaker 2: my needs. I need water, I need a relationship, I
29:12
Speaker 2: need to provide a house for my children. And now
29:17
Speaker 2: all of our needs are met, we become very complacent.
29:21
Speaker 2: You know, somebody just takes our garbage away. In the past,
29:25
Speaker 2: you had to walk for miles to dig a hole
29:28
Speaker 2: and put your garbage into. Now it's just poof gone.
29:31
Speaker 2: So we have all of this extra time. We don't
29:34
Speaker 2: have to busy ourselves with putting food on the table
29:38
Speaker 2: for eighteen hours out of our day. And so now
29:42
Speaker 2: we're indulging in wants and we have created a very
29:47
Speaker 2: want based society. And that is where the ego surges,
29:51
Speaker 2: because the ego is the part of self that wants everything.
29:56
Speaker 2: I want the ice cream, I want the money. It
30:00
Speaker 2: all right now, it has to be right now. If
30:02
Speaker 2: that Amazon box doesn't come tomorrow, I'm going to write
30:05
Speaker 2: a terrible review and bitch. And we've just become very entitled.
30:11
Speaker 2: The ego is very entitled when it gets bruised, when
30:16
Speaker 2: it doesn't get its way. The ego writes stories about
30:19
Speaker 2: how things should be and how we should be and
30:24
Speaker 2: all of the praise and the love that should be
30:26
Speaker 2: anointed on us. And when it doesn't go that way,
30:28
Speaker 2: the ego has a big temper tantrum and starts getting
30:32
Speaker 2: very defensive about it. So we are at a point
30:35
Speaker 2: where there has been There are wonderful and important freedoms
30:41
Speaker 2: and things that have come, but we are at a
30:43
Speaker 2: point in which there is so much focus on the
30:48
Speaker 2: horizontal the amounts. Even our ancestors one hundred years ago
30:53
Speaker 2: there was mverder face as are sitting there and working
30:58
Speaker 2: the rudder. That's a madation. And you're sitting and you
31:02
Speaker 2: are in the vertical connected for the utter of the
31:05
Speaker 2: utter of that. Now everything is horizontal, and it's very
31:09
Speaker 2: artificial in some ways, which is why to countered that
31:16
Speaker 2: those that are listening to your podcast, they are interested
31:21
Speaker 2: in lives of balance and peace, and so a big,
31:26
Speaker 2: big part of that to shift or to help and
31:30
Speaker 2: not the break down of the collective ego, because that's
31:34
Speaker 2: a collective choice bigger than us as an individual. So
31:38
Speaker 2: it's not to break through, but it's to break away
31:42
Speaker 2: from the collective ego, and you do that by restoring
31:47
Speaker 2: simplicity and stability and surrender and stillness to your life.
31:53
Speaker 2: That it's easier said than done, but really the founding
32:01
Speaker 2: of what brings. The deepest balance in peace is when
32:05
Speaker 2: things are simple, simple, simple choices, stable, stable relationships with
32:13
Speaker 2: stable people, having a strong foundation within yourself, within your faith,
32:20
Speaker 2: whatever it may be. Surrender, the ability to surrender is wonderful.
32:28
Speaker 2: I feel so much happier now that Yeshua has come
32:34
Speaker 2: through my channel because I can just surrender to him.
32:37
Speaker 2: Before he came through my channel, I wouldn't surrender to anything,
32:41
Speaker 2: not anything within the human and there was a huge
32:44
Speaker 2: burden of responsibility inherent to that. When you can't surrender,
32:49
Speaker 2: it's up to you to carry that burden of responsibility
32:52
Speaker 2: and it can break your back. So surrender. And then,
32:57
Speaker 2: of course, the one that really provides the most spaciousness
33:03
Speaker 2: and resolves so many issues that we think that we
33:08
Speaker 2: have that actually really aren't issues, and that is stillness.
33:13
Speaker 2: Being able to be in the stillness, the spaciousness. It
33:17
Speaker 2: is amazing how all of these little problems just kind
33:20
Speaker 2: of dissolve. You look at them after a time of
33:24
Speaker 2: stillness and you're like, what was I freaking out about?
33:29
Speaker 2: I was so unnecessary. I don't want to do that.
33:34
Speaker 2: So simplicity, stability, surrender and stillness, and if there's anything, yeah,
33:42
Speaker 2: the four us is. So if there's anything that I
33:46
Speaker 2: would love for people to take away from the Freedom
33:50
Speaker 2: and Transmissions, or even this really beautiful and special conversation
33:55
Speaker 2: that we've had today, it's to remember the four US's
33:59
Speaker 2: and when you can structure them into your life and
34:02
Speaker 2: take some time for the vertical within the horizontal, that's
34:07
Speaker 2: when you move into the fifth S. And the fifth
34:09
Speaker 2: S is service, your authentic service.
34:13
Speaker 1: When people come to you, I can imagine that one
34:17
Speaker 1: of the reasons they're coming to you is for a
34:20
Speaker 1: sense of peace, peace within themselves, peace in relationship to others.
34:28
Speaker 1: And I find that so much peace comes in forgiveness.
34:35
Speaker 1: And it's also such a difficult thing to do. It's
34:40
Speaker 1: one of them, to be honest, it's one of the
34:41
Speaker 1: things that I don't love about myself. I really remember
34:46
Speaker 1: I hold on And I'm wondering how you think we
34:52
Speaker 1: can come to forgiveness from a spiritual perspective, Where do
34:57
Speaker 1: people find that when they come to you.
35:00
Speaker 2: In order to truly come to peace with what is
35:06
Speaker 2: or what has been, you need to understand where that
35:11
Speaker 2: stitches that is keeping you stitched unbound to that person,
35:16
Speaker 2: even if they're not within your life, they may have
35:20
Speaker 2: betrayed you or something. There was some sort of altercation
35:25
Speaker 2: of deep unconsciousness, a huge unrealized part of that person
35:32
Speaker 2: expressed itself in an interaction with you. And we've all
35:36
Speaker 2: had moments when an unrealized part of us has expressed itself,
35:40
Speaker 2: and you know, we feel regret and we utilize those
35:43
Speaker 2: moments to the best of our ability to be able
35:46
Speaker 2: to evolve. But there is always that stitch, and it
35:54
Speaker 2: can be emotional, or it can also be ego, or
36:01
Speaker 2: the stitch can be in the unconscious space. So it's
36:06
Speaker 2: you're still stitch. That stitch has happened, and it's keeping
36:09
Speaker 2: you bound to that person's unrealized self expression and the
36:14
Speaker 2: way that it hurt you is keeping you bound to
36:18
Speaker 2: an unrealized part of yourself. And so there is that
36:22
Speaker 2: intersection point and that's what needs to be addressed. Is
36:26
Speaker 2: the holding on to a feeling, is the holding on
36:30
Speaker 2: visceral like you feel it within your gut, Is it
36:34
Speaker 2: a thought? And typically the holding on when you know
36:38
Speaker 2: that you're kind of bound in an unconscious way to
36:41
Speaker 2: that person and you want to dissolve that stitch so
36:45
Speaker 2: that you can forgive and set everybody free. Typically one
36:49
Speaker 2: of the reasons that we don't want to forgive is
36:52
Speaker 2: because there's that part of us that says they don't
36:55
Speaker 2: really deserve it, they don't really deserve my forgiveness, or
36:59
Speaker 2: this is unjust. They did this to me. I never
37:03
Speaker 2: got closure, nothing ever happened to them. This is unfair,
37:08
Speaker 2: and the ego loves to do this is unfair, and
37:13
Speaker 2: it really likes the victim pity party. And even if
37:16
Speaker 2: you have been a victim to something horrific, many people
37:21
Speaker 2: that I've worked with have been victims of things, but
37:23
Speaker 2: you will never get past that trauma operating from the
37:27
Speaker 2: sense of self pity. And so you kind of got
37:31
Speaker 2: to be that. If there's any time for the warrior,
37:34
Speaker 2: it is going in and understanding that unrealized part of self,
37:40
Speaker 2: because you can't call the other person a monster without
37:45
Speaker 2: acknowledging the aspects of the monster that exist within you.
37:49
Speaker 2: And when you can integrate and blend your monster or
37:53
Speaker 2: your shadow or whatever else it is, it becomes very
37:56
Speaker 2: easy to recognize it in others, so that you don't
37:59
Speaker 2: get into imbalanced relationships almost ever again, your discernment become stronger,
38:05
Speaker 2: you know, not apathy and being suspicious about people, but
38:08
Speaker 2: just legitimate discernment. It's actually easier to engage with people
38:13
Speaker 2: when that level of awareness that is there. But you
38:15
Speaker 2: need to go into the depths and really figure out
38:20
Speaker 2: what was unjust within it. And it's important to remember,
38:26
Speaker 2: and this is so so hard, true forgiveness cannot come
38:35
Speaker 2: until you are able to accept what is. What is
38:42
Speaker 2: You cannot let go until you can accept what is.
38:47
Speaker 2: This has happened, this was in the past. Wherever their
38:52
Speaker 2: path is leading them, fine, but I don't want to
38:55
Speaker 2: be stitched to them in any way. Thus, I am
38:58
Speaker 2: going to liberate myself. And it is through that liberation
39:03
Speaker 2: that that feeling of acceptance of what came just reveals itself.
39:10
Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about foe forgiveness, which is which
39:15
Speaker 2: is justifying. You know, there's that like justification component with
39:20
Speaker 2: foe forgiveness or I should be forgiving them. Sometimes it
39:24
Speaker 2: can take a couple pass throughs. Sometimes you're angry and
39:27
Speaker 2: the anger can come back. So sometimes especially if a
39:31
Speaker 2: relationship has been particularly visceral and there was something of
39:35
Speaker 2: deep unconsciousness, it can take a couple of pass throughs
39:39
Speaker 2: to unstitch and nweave the part of that is accepting
39:43
Speaker 2: what is and saying I am setting myself free from
39:49
Speaker 2: this moving forward. So, really forgiveness, you would think that
39:55
Speaker 2: it helps the other person, but the one that it
39:58
Speaker 2: really helps is you. Mercy is different. Forgiveness is your
40:06
Speaker 2: inner process of liberation. Mercy is the external process of
40:15
Speaker 2: liberating the other person. And it's important not to conflate
40:18
Speaker 2: the two because really forgiveness is more of the internal mercy,
40:24
Speaker 2: which Yashua adjusted an amazing transmission on. It's so so magical.
40:31
Speaker 2: Mercy is one of the most direly needed energies within
40:37
Speaker 2: the world. We're mercy less on ourselves and on one another,
40:42
Speaker 2: but mercy is it's what gives that sense of redemption.
40:48
Speaker 2: And mercy is not letting someone go without there being
40:53
Speaker 2: any consequences. Mercy means that you can affect consequences. So,
40:59
Speaker 2: for example, if a woman has Oh this is such
41:04
Speaker 2: an awful example, but I'm going to use it because
41:06
Speaker 2: it does happen within our world. If a woman is raped,
41:12
Speaker 2: mercy may mean that she says, yes, I do want
41:16
Speaker 2: to press charges. I do want this man to go
41:19
Speaker 2: to prison. He needs to learn not to do this
41:21
Speaker 2: to other people. So it's not necessarily just letting someone
41:26
Speaker 2: off the hook. There can be a boundary that is
41:29
Speaker 2: enforced that is part of mercy. But an act of
41:32
Speaker 2: mercy would be maybe for her to visit him in
41:36
Speaker 2: the prison, or to write him a letter saying I
41:40
Speaker 2: forgive you, I recognize you as a person. I hope
41:45
Speaker 2: that you're getting the help that you need. But I
41:48
Speaker 2: just need you to know that there is a good
41:50
Speaker 2: person that is inside of you, and I pray that
41:53
Speaker 2: you realize that within your life. That is what heals
41:58
Speaker 2: people moments when a person has been merciful to us
42:03
Speaker 2: when we've messed up. Even parents, being a merciful parent
42:10
Speaker 2: is better than being an overly attached parent. A parent
42:15
Speaker 2: that is a merciful parent can enforce a boundary. You know,
42:19
Speaker 2: you need to go to your room. You know I
42:22
Speaker 2: told you to do this and you didn't do it.
42:23
Speaker 2: You need to go to your room, but to do
42:26
Speaker 2: so not from anger and wrath and shaming the child,
42:29
Speaker 2: but with love saying this is why you need to
42:32
Speaker 2: do this, so you can learn. So mercy is a
42:36
Speaker 2: little bit different. And as I've said before, forgiveness almost
42:43
Speaker 2: isn't enough anymore. We need to be doing the forgiveness
42:48
Speaker 2: on the inside ourselves and those around us, but we
42:52
Speaker 2: need to move that into the external through mercy. And
42:56
Speaker 2: mercy is incredibly empowered. It is rooted in kindness and
43:03
Speaker 2: humility and forgiveness because basically it's saying, if I deserve
43:09
Speaker 2: marcy and unconditional love, so do you. And there may
43:13
Speaker 2: be consequences for what you've done, but I need to
43:16
Speaker 2: express to you, but let's be marciful to one another.
43:20
Speaker 2: And it's similar with empathy and compassion. Empathy feeling empathy
43:26
Speaker 2: for another, feeling all the pain of the people in
43:29
Speaker 2: the Ukraine and suffering in crime that doesn't help the
43:33
Speaker 2: people of the Ukraine. Empathy is fine. It's wonderful to
43:37
Speaker 2: have empathy and to feel other people's feelings, but that
43:41
Speaker 2: is not an excuse for you to roll around wallowing
43:44
Speaker 2: in other people's pain. That's their pain. Let them don't
43:48
Speaker 2: appropriate their pain. Compassion is where empathy really starts to
43:55
Speaker 2: ignite and get rolling. Empathy is really the internal state
44:00
Speaker 2: where you feel what that person is feeling because you've
44:03
Speaker 2: gone through moments of hardship yourself. Compassion is moving that
44:08
Speaker 2: into action, It is moving it into I feel compassion
44:12
Speaker 2: for this person, I'm going to make a donation, or
44:16
Speaker 2: I'm going to sit and pray for them in this moment.
44:19
Speaker 2: I'm going to offer them a prayer, offering them a prayer, praying,
44:24
Speaker 2: bringing light, bringing peace into yourself. That is what helps
44:30
Speaker 2: people within the collective way, more than wallowing in all
44:35
Speaker 2: of your empathic feelings that are all about me, me, me,
44:38
Speaker 2: my overwhelming feelings. Move that into service, move that into
44:43
Speaker 2: compassion THEO. Yes, but forgiveness it cannot come until you
44:51
Speaker 2: accept what is. And the beautiful thing is that. What
44:55
Speaker 2: is is you within the present and whatever unconscious this
45:00
Speaker 2: person got you to where you are now. Frankly, I
45:05
Speaker 2: would say thank you because you look like you are
45:09
Speaker 2: doing pretty fantastic to me, within the whole of your being,
45:14
Speaker 2: within the glow of your are.
45:17
Speaker 1: So I love the idea of let it go. The
45:23
Speaker 1: mercy aspect is so actionable. It feels energy, it feels
45:27
Speaker 1: energizing to me.
45:28
Speaker 2: I like that.
45:29
Speaker 1: Thank you for that.
45:30
Speaker 3: Yeah.
45:31
Speaker 1: What is a book that has changed your life that
45:33
Speaker 1: you think everybody should read?
45:35
Speaker 2: It's called A Friend by Forrest Gander and the book
45:41
Speaker 2: of Poems Handwriting by Michael and Daus have a.
45:46
Speaker 1: Card deck called Question everything, And since we're not in
45:50
Speaker 1: person together, you just have to let me know when
45:52
Speaker 1: I should stop.
45:54
Speaker 2: That one, that one, that one, go back, go back,
45:57
Speaker 2: three cards. Oh, I like this one for you?
46:01
Speaker 1: Okay, a lyric, poem, mantra, or quote that you hold
46:04
Speaker 1: on too tightly.
46:06
Speaker 2: For Now we're see in mere dimly. Then we shall
46:10
Speaker 2: see face to face. Now we know only in part.
46:15
Speaker 2: Then we shall know fully even as we have been
46:18
Speaker 2: fully know Corinthians.
46:21
Speaker 1: What is the smartest decision you've ever made?
46:24
Speaker 2: The most intelligent mind and heart decision was to, at
46:31
Speaker 2: the brink of a period of tremendous loss in my life,
46:38
Speaker 2: to follow my intuition, which was a dream that I
46:45
Speaker 2: had of a red road leading to a mesa. And
46:52
Speaker 2: my heart was broken in that moment. I almost I
46:56
Speaker 2: was just in one of those periods where it hurts
46:58
Speaker 2: to breathe, you're in so much grief. And my mind
47:02
Speaker 2: was like, I have no money, I have nothing I
47:08
Speaker 2: have known, But it was like my soul's wisdom over road,
47:13
Speaker 2: and I went and I followed the road, and the
47:17
Speaker 2: road ended just north of Sonona, like it literally ended.
47:22
Speaker 2: There was no more road, and I wound up running
47:25
Speaker 2: out of gas and it was right near Sunset Crater.
47:29
Speaker 2: It was pouring rain, and all of a sudden, everything,
47:36
Speaker 2: the entire vision, the entire revelation of how I was
47:40
Speaker 2: meant to serve, how Spirit would shook support and shepherd
47:45
Speaker 2: me to even be able to be prepared for the
47:51
Speaker 2: integrity and the level of energy that I would need
47:55
Speaker 2: to be a full body channel for Yeshua, and you know,
47:58
Speaker 2: everything just within a moment, and I wept, and it
48:04
Speaker 2: was the tears that are not tears of exasperation and hopelessness,
48:10
Speaker 2: the complicated tears. It was the tears that unburden and
48:16
Speaker 2: help us to process and let go. And that was
48:20
Speaker 2: really the moment of the death of my separate self
48:22
Speaker 2: and the resurrection and to my own price consciousness. So
48:28
Speaker 2: that was the smartest decision. It was just to quite
48:34
Speaker 2: literally follow the dream and to allow the dream to
48:41
Speaker 2: move into revelation. CHRISA, thank you.
48:46
Speaker 1: I know you mentioned you don't do a ton of media,
48:50
Speaker 1: and so I am so grateful.
48:52
Speaker 2: It's not lost on me.
48:54
Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing yourself and your wisdom with us.
48:58
Speaker 2: And thank you for cre this incredible loving container your spirit.
49:10
Speaker 2: Just it exudes a certain level of communion and in
49:14
Speaker 2: the Freedom transmissions. Yahtua talks a lot about weaving and
49:19
Speaker 2: braiding and the beauty and the grace when a person
49:24
Speaker 2: is really present and is in their dharma. He expresses,
49:29
Speaker 2: how beautifully you can we even braid with those that
49:31
Speaker 2: you come into communion with, and you even braid with
49:37
Speaker 2: so many people in a way that highlights their light.
49:43
Speaker 2: That a extracts the truth, but also highlights their light,
49:49
Speaker 2: and that is a rare and very special service on
49:52
Speaker 2: this planet.
49:53
Speaker 3: Thank you, Chrissa.
50:21
Speaker 1: All Right, today is a good day. To have a
50:23
Speaker 1: good day. I'll see you next week.