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107. All Aboard the Sex Raft · Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood

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Speaker 1: You're listening to you an Airwave Media podcast. Hi delicious friends,
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Speaker 1: and welcome to Who Did What Now? The history podcast
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Speaker 1: That's not Your history class with me your host, Katie Charlewood,
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Speaker 1: history harlot and reader of books. Welcome, one and all.
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Speaker 1: It is wonderful to be back and going a little
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Speaker 1: bit later this week because things are going to get heavy.
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Speaker 1: They absolutely are. So it's been an interesting week. I
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Speaker 1: got to see my week girl play football this week,
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Speaker 1: which is fun, and so I got to see her
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Speaker 1: do training and they do these little matches and stuff,
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Speaker 1: and she scored three goals because of course she did,
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Speaker 1: because we're high achievers and our family. She's a sore
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Speaker 1: winner and a sore loser. It's great. One thing I noticed, though,
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Speaker 1: when I was watching other kids do in practice, is
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Speaker 1: that anytime anyone scored a goal, they had like a
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Speaker 1: wee celebration, Like I don't know if you've ever seen
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Speaker 1: a three year old like goal move, but it's joyous,
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Speaker 1: like I've seen them dab and everything. It's hilarious. I
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Speaker 1: love it so much. It's great fun. Now I don't
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Speaker 1: do the sports, but I do love that people who
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Speaker 1: appreciate and enjoy the sports and it's wonderful to see
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Speaker 1: you know. And now and now housekeeping news information. Yes,
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Speaker 1: so a couple of things. First things. First, the tour.
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Speaker 1: see me fab wonderful. So now this serious stuff. So
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Speaker 1: if you've been following me on the socials, you may
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Speaker 1: notice that I have joined I've partnered with Operation Alive
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Speaker 1: Branch and it's basically a way to help families escape Gaza.
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Speaker 1: And so I have partnered with Gada and her family.
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Speaker 1: And that's because a friend of mine actually connected us.
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Speaker 1: I was like, I need to connect to this person.
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Speaker 1: And so I was like, I was having trouble getting
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Speaker 1: through the spreadsheet because sometimes I'll tell you that smart
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Speaker 1: people can be really dumb. Sometimes. It took me ages
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Speaker 1: to figure out how to navigate the spreadsheet. And my
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Speaker 1: friend was like, I got you and just like literally
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Speaker 1: just sent me a family and I was like, great,
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Speaker 1: sold done. I read through their stuff and I went, yep,
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Speaker 1: let's get this baby out of there. So Gada and
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Speaker 1: her family, they had this perfume business, and so basically
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Speaker 1: they lost everything, like her brother in law and her
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Speaker 1: brother in law, her brother Sally mistake. Her brother arrived
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Speaker 1: back in Gaza two days before the war broke out,
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Speaker 1: and her family they have just been like basically making
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Speaker 1: their way south, you know, and now they're in Rapha.
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Speaker 1: It's their seventh time they're having to evacuate. They've evacuated
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Speaker 1: six times since October. Like that's wild, you know, because
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Speaker 1: it's May now and it's her and there's her nieces,
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Speaker 1: Sally and Salma, who are two years old and six
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Speaker 1: months and Sally she can't give vaccinations like they are
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Speaker 1: going to be preventable diseases that she's not going to
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Speaker 1: be prepared for because she can't get vaccinated because medical
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Speaker 1: aid is just not getting through because they're blocking it,
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Speaker 1: you know, and they need money to get out. They've
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Speaker 1: just about got their documentation and they're struggling. Like there's
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Speaker 1: an eight year old boy who, from what I can gather,
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Speaker 1: he's having a lot of these intest unless you say,
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Speaker 1: it's already dropped sixteen kilos in weight, which is like
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Speaker 1: that's a lot, you know, And so they're trying to
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Speaker 1: get out and I'm convinced he has dysentery, Like that's
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Speaker 1: what's stuck in my brain. I have. My brain is
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Speaker 1: stuck on dysentery, which is like an eight year old
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Speaker 1: boy should not be suffering that. And you may tell
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Speaker 1: me other people in other countries as well, they shouldn't,
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Speaker 1: Like there's enough money in the world that we should
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Speaker 1: be able to prevent that. But also this, I'm not
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Speaker 1: gonna call it a war because even though I haven't
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Speaker 1: heard to it war, it's not a war. It's a genocide.
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Speaker 1: Entire bloodlines have gone. And my plan is effectively to
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Speaker 1: try and give as much as physically possible. So not
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Speaker 1: only my sharing their story and their go fund is
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Speaker 1: going to be in the linkedown below, but so not
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Speaker 1: only do I have Goadda's family, but I'm also going
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Speaker 1: to be donating all of May's Patreon money, however much
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Speaker 1: that comes to. Like I know, I only make like
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Speaker 1: two hundred quire on the patre in a month, but
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Speaker 1: like that's it's something, you know, it's something to give.
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Speaker 1: And I also made a Yeat the rich T shirt
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Speaker 1: or stickers or whatever. I mat like a dollar per
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Speaker 1: sale on those. But effectively everything, every bit of money
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Speaker 1: that comes from that. Every penny is going to go
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Speaker 1: towards Operation Alive Branch and helping a family somehow. I
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Speaker 1: know it's not a huge amount, although there's probably someone
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Speaker 1: there going that's a load of money. It is a
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Speaker 1: load of money for a lot of is, but it's
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Speaker 1: a load of money for me actually in general. But
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Speaker 1: cost living crisis, everything's gone up, and it's just money
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Speaker 1: that I wouldn't have otherwise. It's not money I rely on,
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Speaker 1: and so it's I usually put that kind of money
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Speaker 1: back in towards the podcast to get the equipment and
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Speaker 1: other stuff, but I don't need to do that right
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Speaker 1: now because other people need this more than I do,
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Speaker 1: and I think we owe it to them to help.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, quit
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Speaker 1: your jibber jabber in fact me, In fact you, I will.
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Speaker 1: But first we've got to get our source on the
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Speaker 1: Acali experiment Five men and six women on a raft
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Speaker 1: across the Atlantic for one hundred and one days by
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Speaker 1: Santiago Genoveet's Our sources are mutiny on the sex raft.
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Speaker 1: How Is seventies Signs Project descended into violent chaos by
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Speaker 1: Stuart Jeffries Acali one in RI two Some Conclusions and
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Speaker 1: hypothesis concerning Human friction under isolation and stress with special
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Speaker 1: reference to intelligence and personality assessment by doctor Santiago Geneveetz.
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Speaker 1: And we have the Raft documentary from twenty eighteen. Are
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Speaker 1: you'll sitting comfortably good? Then let's begin. Now. I wanted
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Speaker 1: to do this because although it's actually terrifying and awful,
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Speaker 1: but also kind of hilarious, and it's a little bit
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Speaker 1: lighter in the end to a lot of the stuff
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Speaker 1: we're going to be covering soon, because things are going
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Speaker 1: to get heavy and things are going to get dark,
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Speaker 1: and that's where things are going to go for a
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Speaker 1: little bit. So I thought, you know what, let's light
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Speaker 1: in the mood a wee bit, let's make things a
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Speaker 1: wee bit easier. And so here we are and we're
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Speaker 1: going to talk about the sex raft.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking, Gary, what really this is
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Speaker 1: the thing? Yeah, and you're going to be completely surprised
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Speaker 1: when I tell you this was the nineteen seventies. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: and it all starts with one doctor Santiago Genevese, who
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Speaker 1: is a doctor of anthropology effectively, yes, he's an anthropologist
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Speaker 1: in the seventies, because of course he is, because this
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Speaker 1: is when people start thinking about violence and conflict, and
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Speaker 1: you've got Vietnam going on, and you've got I don't know,
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Speaker 1: serial killer is going up the I five or wherever
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Speaker 1: they are. I'm not entirely sure I know what the
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Speaker 1: I five is. Geography is not my forte. But here
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Speaker 1: we are. Yes, Santiago genevies he has this idea because
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Speaker 1: he's kind of obsessed with conflict and what causes it,
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Speaker 1: what is the root cause of conflict in humans? And
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Speaker 1: so he thinks he has a theory. Here's many theories,
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Speaker 1: in fact, but one of them specifically is that men
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Speaker 1: will instigate sort of violence and instigate conflict when women
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Speaker 1: are ovulating, because this has been seen in sort of
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Speaker 1: other animals, like primates, things like that. You see it
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Speaker 1: in nature all the time. And so he's like, that's
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Speaker 1: clearly a thing. And so he's like, hmm, maybe menstrual
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Speaker 1: cycles are the key to world peace. Like to stop
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Speaker 1: to stop fights is just an stop women ovulating around them.
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Speaker 1: Maybe that's a thing. Now, Yeah, sorry, I write it
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Speaker 1: to for it. He's just like, yeah, if we can
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Speaker 1: stop men, you know, not having access to women. This
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Speaker 1: feels a little bit in silly. I'm sorry. I'm just
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Speaker 1: thinking like, oh, if they have free access to ovulating women,
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Speaker 1: then they're not going to be causing wars and shit,
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Speaker 1: Like really really now, now that's stupid. Anyway, Like he's
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Speaker 1: he's like, let's work on this, and so he's like
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to do it, and so
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Speaker 1: he decides that he's gonna have a raft, a raft
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Speaker 1: of all things he's gonna have. I mean, he doesn't
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Speaker 1: call it the sex raft. He calls it the Acli experiment,
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Speaker 1: because a cali is Spanish for peace. So he wants
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Speaker 1: to go across the Atlantic Ocean right with ten super
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Speaker 1: hot people and see what happens. Right, He's gonna put
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Speaker 1: them on a raft which has a rudder, right, but
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Speaker 1: no sales, and he's gonna go from the Canary Islands,
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Speaker 1: I believe, all the way over to Mexico. So he's
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Speaker 1: gonna go right across the Atlantic Ocean. And I know
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Speaker 1: what you're thinking, This sounds like a recipe for disaster.
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Speaker 1: This sounds like really bad reality TV. Like it's like
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Speaker 1: Survivor mixed with Married at First Sight, Like what is this, Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm that is ce TV. I actually watched Married for
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Speaker 1: First Site at first Sight, like the first time, like
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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, and I was like mid season
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Speaker 1: in this, and all I know is I'm really obsessed
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Speaker 1: with it. Like it's very interesting. I know it's trash TV,
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Speaker 1: but like yeah, like they pick people deliberately to like
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Speaker 1: cause drama and this is kind of where this goes.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, he he's like full on believing this. Santiago
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Speaker 1: is like, yes, I am here for this. This is fabulous.
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Speaker 1: And so he'd actually done something similar to this before.
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Speaker 1: He'd actually sailed across the Atlantic Journey with the hydral
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Speaker 1: and he did this to prove that people and sort
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Speaker 1: of the continent of like Europe or Africa could have
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Speaker 1: so sailed across the Atlantic Ocean and ships. Like they
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Speaker 1: initially did it with a ship made of papyrus and
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Speaker 1: they were like, we're gonna like sail across the ocean
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Speaker 1: and unfortunately it tank and they were like, oh, that's unfortunate,
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Speaker 1: and so like we're gonna try it again, and they
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Speaker 1: try it with a different boat which is made from
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Speaker 1: sort of traditional materials, but it makes it and they're
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Speaker 1: like yay, so ancient people's theoretically could have sailed like
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Speaker 1: across the sea, oceans whatever, and he's like wow, and
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Speaker 1: he's like it's such a good experience. Everybody should like
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Speaker 1: do this. Basically, he's trying to prove that the Macronesians
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Speaker 1: could have done it, and he's like, well, actually he
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Speaker 1: could have. So I mean yeah, first time day fifty
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Speaker 1: four at sinks. Second time they did it. So based
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Speaker 1: on this, he's like, I'm gonna do my own boat
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Speaker 1: trip and I'll be better with black Jack in her
13:54
Speaker 1: kurts and don't cancel meets Stroke from Pu Drama please.
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Speaker 1: So he's like, there's no paddles, there's no sale, there
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Speaker 1: is rudder, but we're just gonna go because effectively, they
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Speaker 1: want to be able to move out of the way
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Speaker 1: of dangerous things, of course, but they want to make
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Speaker 1: sure there's it's as difficult as possible. The whole point
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Speaker 1: of this is to make it as difficult as possible
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Speaker 1: to sort of trigger situations and initiate conflict and sort
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Speaker 1: of see like what can happen. Because he wants to
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Speaker 1: study conflict. He wants to see how this goes. So
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Speaker 1: he wants to do this wants to go across the
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Speaker 1: Atlantic Ocean and a really difficult sailing option. He wants
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Speaker 1: to do that, and it's gonna take like somewhere between
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Speaker 1: ninety days or double that, like nearly two hundred days
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Speaker 1: to get across. And now you may be thinking to yourself,
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Speaker 1: what makes him man and want to sail across the
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Speaker 1: Atlantic Ocean with many sexy strangers and put them in
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Speaker 1: positions that would create an unpleasant experience for everyone involved.
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Speaker 1: And it's the seventies. And he liked to fly places
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Speaker 1: because he had to go to conferences and whatnot. And
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Speaker 1: this may shock you, but he was he was hijacked.
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Speaker 1: The plane was hijacked in that that happened quite a bit,
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Speaker 1: like in the seventies. Like it's like it was like
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Speaker 1: just something that happened, like walking down the streets someone
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Speaker 1: bumps into you. Ah, you know, that's just how it is.
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Speaker 1: In the seventies, your plane would get hijacked. But like,
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Speaker 1: I think, only like one person ever died in like
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Speaker 1: a nineteen seventies plane hijacking, like and maybe incorrect in that,
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Speaker 1: but like for the most part, that feels wrong. But
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Speaker 1: the death toll is very very low because for the
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Speaker 1: most part, it wasn't about like they didn't want to
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Speaker 1: hurt people. They just wanted to just steal planes. It's
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Speaker 1: a very big thing, makes some money. I mean, we
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Speaker 1: all know what Dan Cooper did and everybody else, and like, hey,
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Speaker 1: let's do this and then let me take the money
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Speaker 1: and go Like I guess to the point, this is
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Speaker 1: basically a monthly occurrence, like it just gets planes is
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Speaker 1: gy hijacked, like ah, and now we're taking this plane
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Speaker 1: it's supposed to go in a I don't know, San Diego,
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Speaker 1: and now we're going to Cincinnati. It's just a thing
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Speaker 1: that happened, like it was just one of those things.
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Speaker 1: It's the seventies. Woo. Now you can remember as well,
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Speaker 1: Like the seventies is that's your big hippie period. Everyone
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Speaker 1: thinks it's the sixties, but it's like the late sixties
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Speaker 1: early seventies. It's where that hippy vibe starts coming into it,
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Speaker 1: you know. So he's like, this is traumatic, I really
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Speaker 1: need to resolve conflict now. And he's like, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: build my sex raft and so he does, and to
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Speaker 1: make it somehow murkier. This is funded by the Mexican government.
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Speaker 1: They're like, yes, Santiago, you put those sexy people on
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Speaker 1: a raft and they're like cool. Now, of course some
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Speaker 1: people are looking at that and they're like, we butt unethical,
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Speaker 1: pal we but unethical, And he's like, is it unethical
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Speaker 1: because every twenty seconds somebody dies at the hands of
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Speaker 1: a man, And is that not the most unethical thing ever?
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Speaker 1: Don't we need to like work around that? And it's
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Speaker 1: like okay, but that still doesn't change what you're doing
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Speaker 1: is being unethical. Like although at this point everybody is
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Speaker 1: doing weird ass experiments that are unethical. You've got Milton,
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Speaker 1: You've got Stanford prison experiment, You've got Mary Bow and
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Speaker 1: all that weird stuff she was doing the monkeys, Like
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Speaker 1: there's loads of weird and ethical stuff happening because they're like,
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Speaker 1: we need to understand, and it's like it's at the
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Speaker 1: risk of hurting people, though, do you do you really
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Speaker 1: need to cause collective trauma? Yah, You've got all this
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Speaker 1: stuff going on, You've got Vietnam, you've got got Pinochet's
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Speaker 1: like about to like go for it, young Kuper. There's
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Speaker 1: just so much, so much happening, and he's like, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna solve all wars with mus Sex raft like okay,
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Speaker 1: like all right, there's a veys. So he decides he's
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Speaker 1: gonna create his raft and he does, and he calls
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Speaker 1: it a Cali. Now I know earlier I said it
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Speaker 1: means peace. It doesn't. It means home on the water.
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Speaker 1: So it's this big metal raft. I know, the raft
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Speaker 1: you're thinking, you know, it's a bunch of like logs
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Speaker 1: like tied together with a rope. Like that's no, no.
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Speaker 1: So it's this twenty one by thirty six feet. It's
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Speaker 1: got like a double sort of layer on it. It's
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Speaker 1: it's got like two stories, so you've got like a
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Speaker 1: like a shed. Really it's like a metal, but it's
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Speaker 1: buoyant at least, like it's made properly, like they paid
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Speaker 1: people to make this, to make it safe ish as
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Speaker 1: safe as it can be. It's the seventies people were
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Speaker 1: driving without seat belts, like it's you know, everything's fine,
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Speaker 1: the safety is not. It wouldn't pass now, I don't think,
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Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. And so it's got two levels
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Speaker 1: and it's got like this kind of roof and a
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Speaker 1: really really simple rudder. They've got a helmsman's area with
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Speaker 1: the teleras and stuff, and it's got basically got two bedrooms,
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Speaker 1: so there's one like cabin, which is effective like a
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Speaker 1: cramped sleeping area basically to make it as uncomfortable as possible,
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Speaker 1: having everybody like all squeezed in together. And so doctor
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Speaker 1: Santiago Genevese he's like, I have a dream, a dream
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Speaker 1: to end world conflict by ovulating women and putting sexy
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Speaker 1: sixy people on a ten can on water, which is
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Speaker 1: a plan. I'm not saying it. It's like it's a
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Speaker 1: it's a plan. Yeah. And doctor Santiago Genovesi, he's he's
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Speaker 1: not pulling ideas out of his ours. Oh no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: except he has a little bit because what he does
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Speaker 1: is he goes, I wonder what would be like if
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Speaker 1: women were in charge? So he considers what if he
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Speaker 1: gives women all the important jobs and gives men all
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Speaker 1: the domestic tasks like again, because this whole point is
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Speaker 1: to try and generate conflict, So he's trying to create
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Speaker 1: tensions and make it uncomfortable, and so he's trying to
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Speaker 1: sort of find ways to do that. And so he's like,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the women in charge, like it feels
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Speaker 1: like a lot of the blame here, regardless is on women,
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Speaker 1: whether whether intentional or not, all because like as it
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Speaker 1: based on all as it based on manstrual cycles? Like
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Speaker 1: is it based on them being in power and men
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Speaker 1: not being able to handle it? Like honestly, only if
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Speaker 1: the men have a terrible podcast?
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Speaker 2: What?
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Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't say I did. I did say that. So,
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Speaker 1: I mean, this dude's Mexican, right, and he's and he
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Speaker 1: comes from like a very like typical area, very typical upbringing.
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Speaker 1: And so he's like, the men are men and the
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Speaker 1: women are women, and we are all like, oh, you know,
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Speaker 1: like women are feminine and they you know, support men
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Speaker 1: and men are like, you know, the big guys, leaders
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Speaker 1: of the man of the house. Oh you know, macho,
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Speaker 1: macho man. I want to be a macho man. And
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Speaker 1: so he's like, I'll put women in charge and it
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Speaker 1: will make things weird, Okay. So he makes the captain
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Speaker 1: of his raft a woman, and so he travels to
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Speaker 1: Sweden to meet Maria Bjornson, and she's this Swedish sea captain.
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Speaker 1: She's one of the first women like to become a
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Speaker 1: professional sea captain. Because like there was this whole thing
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Speaker 1: of like women on boats and how it was like
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Speaker 1: superstarctress or whatever. But yeah, she's like an actual, fully
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Speaker 1: proper like sea captain and she's like, eh, I'll give
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Speaker 1: it a go in And so she gets paid to
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Speaker 1: be like captain, like that's her job, Like her job
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Speaker 1: is to be captain. And she's the only person who's
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Speaker 1: paid everyone else as a volunteer. So what he does
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Speaker 1: is like I think his budget he ran out because
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Speaker 1: it's all paid went by the Mexican government and they're like,
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Speaker 1: we can cover the food and like the raft and
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Speaker 1: like maybe one member of staff, but you're gonna have
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Speaker 1: to figure out the rest I don't know, crowdfunder or something.
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Speaker 1: And so he ends up posting sort of wanted ads
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Speaker 1: effectively like all across the world. Like he's trying to
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Speaker 1: get as many different people from his marry ney different
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Speaker 1: like backgrounds, ethnicities, cultures, religions. Like he's trying to do that.
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Speaker 1: I mean he's also trying to make sure they're hot,
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Speaker 1: of course, like he wants them like great, and so
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Speaker 1: like he's trying to get people to have a go
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Speaker 1: you want to volunteer to like sail across you know,
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Speaker 1: the Atlantic ocean in order to find world peace for science,
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Speaker 1: and they're like yeah, so it's like he's got so
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Speaker 1: I think it goes something like this. Expedition leader looks
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Speaker 1: for volt tears to sail in a raft across the Atlantic.
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Speaker 1: Duration three months. Males and females preferably married, but participation
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Speaker 1: without spouse, age twenty five to forty Write letter in
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Speaker 1: details curriculum VITA to box zero three seven eighty A.
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Speaker 1: The times applications will be kept confidential, So you may
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Speaker 1: have noticed there he's like, mm, send it here. But
25:26
Speaker 1: also if you're married, great, but like don't bring your
25:30
Speaker 1: wife or don't bring your husband, you know, because he's
25:34
Speaker 1: trying to again generate as much conflict as he physically can,
25:38
Speaker 1: and so he wants people to have a steak in
25:40
Speaker 1: the game. He wants people to have something to come
25:43
Speaker 1: home to or something to lose, like he wants.
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Speaker 2: To like.
25:49
Speaker 1: Raise the steaks for people. And so he basically gets
25:55
Speaker 1: people to apply, he works out who's going to be
25:58
Speaker 1: wal from that, and then he personally like meets them
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Speaker 1: and interviews them. And when he personally interviews them, like
26:06
Speaker 1: part of it is mainly just to see how hot
26:09
Speaker 1: they are because he wants to see if they're sexy
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Speaker 1: enough to be on a sexy sexy raft. And so
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Speaker 1: he's like yay. So, like I said, he's trying to
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Speaker 1: get all these people from all across the globe, from
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Speaker 1: all these different backgrounds, right, and is great though, because
26:31
Speaker 1: like he describes it as like this is a great thing,
26:34
Speaker 1: it's going to be that and the press, the press
26:37
Speaker 1: are less how about this open articulate consider it like
26:48
Speaker 1: instead of being like they're from different racial, religious, and
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Speaker 1: socioeconomic backgrounds. Direct quote from the UPI wire service is
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Speaker 1: the raft expected to drift r across the Atlantic at
27:04
Speaker 1: about two miles per hour. We'll carry two juice, an
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Speaker 1: arab An African, one black and one white American, a sweet,
27:11
Speaker 1: a Greek, a Frenchwoman, a Japanese, a Uruguayan and genovates
27:21
Speaker 1: like what is this porlock of people? Love? So they're like, hey,
27:29
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's a joke from the seventies, isn't it.
27:32
Speaker 1: Like that's that's a joke that Jerry Seinfeld would complain
27:36
Speaker 1: that you can't make anymore. So, yeah, these these people
27:42
Speaker 1: are all flung together because they're from like different places,
27:47
Speaker 1: different areas, like do you remember the old gap ads
27:52
Speaker 1: or like the United Colors of Bennett and adds. And
27:54
Speaker 1: it would just be like I know what I want
27:58
Speaker 1: to say, like coloring pencil collection of people. They're like
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Speaker 1: one of everybody, Let's get as many as we can.
28:07
Speaker 1: And it would be like a bunch of people and
28:10
Speaker 1: then one ginger, you know what I mean, they'd be like, hey,
28:12
Speaker 1: let's get him together. And so he's trying to like
28:21
Speaker 1: create tension and create difficulty, and so he wants to
28:26
Speaker 1: make a heart for everybody, and that's what he does.
28:28
Speaker 1: And so the tens sixty sixty strangers they all meet
28:34
Speaker 1: at the dock and Las Palmer's in Spain and the
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Speaker 1: Canary Islands on the eleventh of May nineteen seventy three,
28:45
Speaker 1: and so he gets them all on like the raft.
28:53
Speaker 1: And here's the thing as well, like we don't have
28:56
Speaker 1: any sort of mental health analysis like pre getting on
29:01
Speaker 1: the boat. So like if somebody was I don't know,
29:05
Speaker 1: like they had some form of like psychosis or anything
29:08
Speaker 1: like that, Like he didn't write that down, he didn't
29:12
Speaker 1: look that up. So whether he was looking for like
29:15
Speaker 1: people with non noticeable mental issues or whatever, you know
29:21
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like there's nothing there, but yeah, he
29:25
Speaker 1: has them on, he collects data. He tells them that
29:31
Speaker 1: they're doing these questionnaires and they're all going to be confidential,
29:35
Speaker 1: and he's studying them. So he has like a reality
29:38
Speaker 1: TV show. He has notes, and he has cameras and
29:42
Speaker 1: so he's documenting all of this. So like that's why
29:46
Speaker 1: we have so much information on it because he recorded
29:49
Speaker 1: so much. Now I know, I said earlier, like we're
29:53
Speaker 1: gonna sell for science. Most of them didn't actually know
29:56
Speaker 1: it was an experiment until they were like locked on
30:00
Speaker 1: the boat and they're like, oh cool. I mean they
30:05
Speaker 1: thought they were sailing for peace, but they just didn't
30:06
Speaker 1: realize it was for peace and science. So the day
30:16
Speaker 1: that it leaves port, on the eleventh of May, they
30:19
Speaker 1: receive a message from the United Nations. They say to
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Speaker 1: the ACALE that it washes them success on their mission,
30:31
Speaker 1: you know, you know, stating that there you know what
30:34
Speaker 1: the importance of this and that you know, the hope
30:38
Speaker 1: for people on Earth and for world peace to be
30:42
Speaker 1: discovered through the Acale. And yet yeah, they're like, good,
30:48
Speaker 1: good luck, wonderful help us, so world peace that would
30:53
Speaker 1: be super thanks, And so it sails away. I say sales.
30:59
Speaker 1: It's pull out of the Babe by a tug boat
31:02
Speaker 1: by Maria's boyfriend. So he's in the tug boat in
31:06
Speaker 1: front and he's like saying to her, Hey, Bessie, Babe,
31:11
Speaker 1: you know I love you. Have you read this contract
31:15
Speaker 1: because it says that you have to do everything he
31:19
Speaker 1: says in that it's he has like access to your
31:24
Speaker 1: mind and body and all of it. And she's like, nah,
31:27
Speaker 1: I didn't sign it, because she's like, no, I'm here
31:32
Speaker 1: for the adventure. And he's like, cool, I guess. So
31:39
Speaker 1: it gets pulled out of the Bait's got its way
31:41
Speaker 1: rudder there, and they get a weather report every couple
31:46
Speaker 1: of days because there's a wee radio in there. So
31:47
Speaker 1: they do have like contact with the outside world. You know,
31:51
Speaker 1: it's not just them on a raft with no communication
31:55
Speaker 1: because that would be dangerous. You know, that would be
31:58
Speaker 1: a dangerous thing to do. And so they're like, okay,
32:01
Speaker 1: let's not do that. So they have all these provisions.
32:05
Speaker 1: They've got fresh water, they've got basic provisions, like they
32:09
Speaker 1: still have to fish and stuff, but like you know,
32:13
Speaker 1: but they've got got most of what they need. So
32:21
Speaker 1: I should tell you about everybody that's all aboard this
32:24
Speaker 1: X raft. So we have doctor Santiago Genovese, who is
32:31
Speaker 1: the Mexican anthropologist. And then we have Captain Maria Bjornstem
32:37
Speaker 1: from Sweden. She's thirty for a female professional captain. There's
32:46
Speaker 1: the radio operator Charles Anthony, he's thirty seven, he's Greek.
32:53
Speaker 1: We've got Josey Maria Montero Perez, thirty four year OLDUI
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Speaker 1: and former student of Santiago, so he knows to Santiago
33:03
Speaker 1: has we got one? That's two. We have Azuki Yamaki,
33:08
Speaker 1: twenty nine year old camera man from Japan who speaks
33:12
Speaker 1: only Japanese and like a wee bit of Spanish, like
33:18
Speaker 1: a wee bit of Spanish. How if a Spanish is
33:21
Speaker 1: only a wee bit of Spanish, how does he do that?
33:24
Speaker 1: How does he do the questionnaire? Like if he's not fluent,
33:28
Speaker 1: does Santiago speak Japanese? Like how does that work? Or
33:35
Speaker 1: did he like make his own questionnaire in Japanese for
33:39
Speaker 1: him to do? Yeah, okay, anyway, So yeah, We've got
33:49
Speaker 1: Bernardo Bongo, a twenty nine year old Catholic priest from Angola.
33:57
Speaker 1: He's like, hmm, this will be like expert. But he's like,
34:01
Speaker 1: I've just brought hot priest onto a raft, like he
34:05
Speaker 1: invented hot priest. I think, so sorry, flee bag, this
34:09
Speaker 1: was him. So then we've got five women. We have
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Speaker 1: two scientists, Mushidi Manzani, twenty two year old to Nigeria
34:22
Speaker 1: and she's studying ocean pollution. And then Servants a naughty
34:27
Speaker 1: who's a thirty two year old French woman and she's
34:31
Speaker 1: a frogman and effectively she's the scuba diver who goes
34:34
Speaker 1: in to like fix all this stuff. And so there's
34:40
Speaker 1: Edna Jonas, a thirty two year old Czechoslovakian that what
34:46
Speaker 1: was Czechoslovakia who lived in Israel and she's a doctor.
34:52
Speaker 1: And then they picked two Americans fee Evangelina Seymour. She's
34:58
Speaker 1: twenty three years old and she's like it was supposed
35:04
Speaker 1: to be even twenty five up, but he's like, hey,
35:05
Speaker 1: you'll do your twenty three year hot. But she's a
35:08
Speaker 1: woman of color and she's the ship's radio operator. And
35:12
Speaker 1: then we've got Mary Gidley, a thirty six year old
35:18
Speaker 1: mother of three who's the navigator and she's running from
35:22
Speaker 1: her husband who basically tried to end her life. Effectively,
35:31
Speaker 1: that's what he tried to do, and so she got
35:34
Speaker 1: the heck at Dodge and was like bye, okay, And
35:37
Speaker 1: so she's doing this to basically get away from him.
35:41
Speaker 1: I have questions about where her children are, but that's
35:44
Speaker 1: neither here another. And so they're all aboard the ship
35:51
Speaker 1: and they've got these questionnaires. Now, these questionnaires are are
35:57
Speaker 1: it's like the Barn Book from Mean Girls, Like it's
36:03
Speaker 1: so weird. The questions are like they're like every half
36:10
Speaker 1: a week to the semi weekly, and it's the questions
36:13
Speaker 1: are they're just so weird. They're like they're meant to
36:19
Speaker 1: so we can study them and see where they're at.
36:21
Speaker 1: So it's like who annoys you most on the raft?
36:25
Speaker 1: Who do you feel closest to? And why if you
36:29
Speaker 1: get get rid of one of the others, who would
36:31
Speaker 1: it be. It's like with whom have you had sexy
36:35
Speaker 1: fun times? Who would you like to have schmesh of
36:39
Speaker 1: fun times? Like it's it's it's it's the Burden Book,
36:44
Speaker 1: isn't it. It's just like hmmm, it's somebody's diary effectively,
36:50
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's he's he's doing this and like this
36:57
Speaker 1: is the only like free time they have really out
37:00
Speaker 1: with being in the boat, so the only option where
37:03
Speaker 1: they get to like write something would be doing these questionnaires.
37:08
Speaker 1: So what it does is he removes all entertainment. So
37:13
Speaker 1: there's no like reading. There is no no like listening
37:19
Speaker 1: to music on the radio, I suppose, but they can
37:21
Speaker 1: like sing songs, they can talk about their own lives.
37:25
Speaker 1: They're just like the plan was to bore people, to
37:31
Speaker 1: get people so bored that they would get angstay and angry,
37:35
Speaker 1: and it would generate conflict. So the first couple of weeks,
37:43
Speaker 1: not a lot's happening because everyone just gets aggressively seasick
37:50
Speaker 1: because they're on a raft, like there is no stabilizers here.
37:55
Speaker 1: They're just sploshing about on the ocean and everyone is
37:59
Speaker 1: just it's coming out with them at both ends, just
38:01
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And so I'm gonness. I forgot to
38:06
Speaker 1: mention the toilet. The toilet is effectively a plank with
38:11
Speaker 1: a hole in it, like it's a platform, but it's
38:14
Speaker 1: it's like an old timey outhouse but over the sea.
38:17
Speaker 1: Now now I'm I'm kind of excited, but also not
38:25
Speaker 1: because that's intriguing because I feel like that being said,
38:29
Speaker 1: like I know, I said it's coming out with them
38:32
Speaker 1: at both ends, but it's actually not because they end
38:35
Speaker 1: up suffering psychological constipation just because like it's it's this
38:42
Speaker 1: sort of innate fear people have, like they can't go
38:46
Speaker 1: to the toilet because they can't relax because they're outside
38:51
Speaker 1: and like there's no privacy, Like there's no privacy on
38:54
Speaker 1: this boat whatsoever, and so they're freaking out. Now another
39:00
Speaker 1: thing that bothers some people, and you'd be thinking this yourself.
39:04
Speaker 1: This is three months on a boat, right with the
39:06
Speaker 1: women in order to ovulate, they have to have a
39:09
Speaker 1: menstrual cycle, which means they also have to have periods,
39:12
Speaker 1: meaning that they're kind of worried about sharks, like genuinely,
39:18
Speaker 1: so that's something they have to think about at least
39:21
Speaker 1: when they're in the Atlantic, like the cold part of it.
39:24
Speaker 1: You know, sharks don't like the cold, so they're fine there.
39:27
Speaker 1: But when they get into warmer waters, that's probably when
39:31
Speaker 1: the worrying should happen, like when they're in the middle
39:34
Speaker 1: of the Atlantic Ocean fighting, right, But the closer you
39:37
Speaker 1: get in Mexico, I'm just saying that's when that's when
39:41
Speaker 1: you look out for jaws. But yeah, now another thing
39:47
Speaker 1: you might be thinking of is the the blinking on
39:53
Speaker 1: the romping raft. Yes, so there's what ten people on
40:00
Speaker 1: this raft that are accessible because obviously Santiago he doesn't count.
40:04
Speaker 1: So you've got twenty one feet by thirty six feet
40:09
Speaker 1: and you're just surrounded by people all the time, So like,
40:12
Speaker 1: where are you gonna go? What you're gonna do? Now?
40:16
Speaker 1: There is like the sort of slanted roof on the cabin,
40:21
Speaker 1: like that's an option, and but of course, like you're
40:25
Speaker 1: on top of her body, so they'll be able to
40:27
Speaker 1: hear it and they'll be able to like, guess who
40:29
Speaker 1: did what with him? But yeah, you could, you could
40:33
Speaker 1: do that. And then of course there's a little helmsman place,
40:40
Speaker 1: like one of the helmswomen. She was just like, yeah,
40:43
Speaker 1: you could, you could do it, but you had to
40:45
Speaker 1: do it when you were like on the helm because
40:48
Speaker 1: you had to work and pairs. THEA had to work
40:52
Speaker 1: in pairs. So what would be on guard and I
40:54
Speaker 1: would be on the helms and Edna the you know
40:58
Speaker 1: Czechoslovakian Israel doctor. She was like, yeah, you could do it,
41:03
Speaker 1: but you had to be like really quick and careful
41:05
Speaker 1: and you always had to have one hand on the rudder.
41:08
Speaker 1: So I mean, I mean, that's that's fine, Like it
41:12
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it would be the most enjoyable of experiences.
41:16
Speaker 1: But she's like, yeah, that's how you do it, and
41:19
Speaker 1: and that's a skill I feel at that point. So
41:22
Speaker 1: you've got to like steer, so you kind of have
41:26
Speaker 1: to be focused on that, so you don't really get
41:29
Speaker 1: to enjoy it, like you're kind of doing it for
41:31
Speaker 1: the sake of it really. But yeah, so they end
41:36
Speaker 1: up getting their questions and it's it's kind of stereotypical actually,
41:41
Speaker 1: because they were like all the women are like the
41:44
Speaker 1: Uruguayan scientist is like just the hordest guy, and that
41:51
Speaker 1: the French woman and the other men are like the
41:54
Speaker 1: French women she's like the absolute most gorgeous and so
42:00
Speaker 1: and because everybody wanted like specifically these people, they're like, oh,
42:04
Speaker 1: that's kind of great conflict. And so he Santiago, doctor
42:11
Speaker 1: Santiago Genovese. He's like, hmm, let's see if I can
42:17
Speaker 1: make stuff happen. So you know, he can like arrange
42:21
Speaker 1: you can be on guard together, just to see if
42:24
Speaker 1: he can make stuff happen. Now, meanwhile, they're sailing across
42:33
Speaker 1: the Atlantic Ocean. They're not sailing, they're just kind of
42:37
Speaker 1: floating across the Atlantic Ocean. And Captain Maria, she very
42:43
Speaker 1: sharply begins to hate Genovese, like she absolutely despises him,
42:52
Speaker 1: Like I cannot convey you how angry she gets. She
43:00
Speaker 1: hates him with the fire of a thousand sons, like
43:03
Speaker 1: she doesn't do the questionnairels. She doesn't like saying his
43:07
Speaker 1: contract and so she tells him his experiment is stupid.
43:15
Speaker 1: Like she just hates him. She hates him, she hates
43:19
Speaker 1: everything about him. But she's like, I'm here for the adventure.
43:24
Speaker 1: So this does work for him a wee bit because
43:27
Speaker 1: he's getting what he wants because tensions are are coming
43:33
Speaker 1: because they're like halfway across at this point, and one
43:36
Speaker 1: of the dudes he's fishing and he catches a shark,
43:39
Speaker 1: so shark gets like pulled up onto I want to say,
43:45
Speaker 1: the deck that gets pulled up and they just like
43:50
Speaker 1: beat it. My brother sailed across the ocean one time
43:55
Speaker 1: in a replica farm and hip, and he was saying
43:58
Speaker 1: that like fish would like sword fish and flying fish
44:00
Speaker 1: and other stuff would like end up on the deck
44:03
Speaker 1: and they would just beat it with hammers because they
44:05
Speaker 1: didn't have anything else, and they were there's a story
44:09
Speaker 1: with a vodka and a swordfish and him going fish
44:12
Speaker 1: out your pain and a woman who was crying as
44:15
Speaker 1: he killed the fish. No, I don't eat fish as well,
44:19
Speaker 1: I would not have survived on this journey. So but anyway,
44:23
Speaker 1: they get like superheated and they just start like like
44:30
Speaker 1: beating the shark because he hooked it. It was on
44:33
Speaker 1: the ship and it wasn't quite dead, and they're like,
44:35
Speaker 1: oh god, we got to kill it. And so everybody
44:38
Speaker 1: just like hitting it. And so his notes say that
44:47
Speaker 1: quote I'm gonna quote his notes. Look, he said, the
44:51
Speaker 1: heart is still beating. It was like turning on a switch.
44:54
Speaker 1: Suddenly everyone wanted to feel the flesh, but it was
44:57
Speaker 1: still warm with life. Finally, he it was the violent
45:01
Speaker 1: behavior that I've been waiting for. But to my surprise,
45:05
Speaker 1: it didn't come from secral jealous here from conflicts between participants. Instead,
45:10
Speaker 1: we witnessed a clear example of crowd frenzy, where people
45:13
Speaker 1: no longer act as individuals, but part is a dangerous
45:15
Speaker 1: collective and like that's it, Like they go, ah, kill
45:23
Speaker 1: the shark and then they're done, and he's like, wait, no,
45:26
Speaker 1: what what's happening? Like he is so upset and disappointed
45:34
Speaker 1: and annoyed everybody involved in this experiment that he just
45:37
Speaker 1: like gets angry. Like he goes up to the two
45:42
Speaker 1: black people on the raft and goes, you too should
45:45
Speaker 1: be shagging, and they're like what and he's like, because
45:49
Speaker 1: you're two people of color, like you're two black women,
45:52
Speaker 1: black people, and he's like one of them is a priest, okay,
45:59
Speaker 1: and and they're like, dude, no, that is so wrong
46:04
Speaker 1: on so many levels. Like we get he's a hot priest,
46:07
Speaker 1: but like not just because he's black though, like what
46:11
Speaker 1: is that?
46:16
Speaker 2: But it.
46:18
Speaker 1: He's so angry that he's like he calls them lazy,
46:21
Speaker 1: that they're acting like children because they're not being violent,
46:25
Speaker 1: and so he's gonna gonna start like instigating it himself.
46:34
Speaker 1: And so he goes, he goes, brings everyone together. He's
46:40
Speaker 1: like meeting, raft meeting, and he pulls everyone aside and
46:43
Speaker 1: he goes, we're changing things up, and you know those
46:46
Speaker 1: confidential questionnaires, I'm gonna read from them. And everyone is
46:51
Speaker 1: clearly like filled with resentment and anxiety at this, and
46:56
Speaker 1: he's like mm, Edna, you know, says she wants to
47:00
Speaker 1: of the relations have smikes you fun times with Hosey Maria.
47:07
Speaker 1: But Hosey Maria thinks that Edna is the most annoying
47:10
Speaker 1: woman in the world because all she does is talk.
47:14
Speaker 1: And you all have to be stop being so afraid
47:16
Speaker 1: of confrontation. You know, I need to know what you're doing.
47:21
Speaker 1: You have to be like into each other and like
47:23
Speaker 1: have it out so we can really get to this
47:26
Speaker 1: experiment in solve world peace, you know, like it's he
47:34
Speaker 1: goes after Fay, like calls her primitive, a thief, calls
47:43
Speaker 1: her lazy, and he basically just starts hurling all these
47:46
Speaker 1: black stereotypes at her. But like she's from the US,
47:51
Speaker 1: like she's she's dealt with us her entire life. She's like,
47:55
Speaker 1: try harder, babe. Wait, I'm sorry, Like children are better
48:03
Speaker 1: at the racism than you. It's okay, and so she's
48:07
Speaker 1: like cool. Thanks. Meanwhile, back home, his colleagues are are
48:16
Speaker 1: are not doing well because the press have realized that
48:22
Speaker 1: everybody on this boat is super fucking hot, Like everybody
48:27
Speaker 1: is just mode already, like just gorgeous, and they're like,
48:34
Speaker 1: wait a minute.
48:36
Speaker 2: Is this is this is sex raft, and so it
48:40
Speaker 2: goes all over the papers and it's spread across the news,
48:43
Speaker 2: and his university is like.
48:46
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no no, no, oh we're
48:48
Speaker 1: not We're not anything to do with that, and like
48:50
Speaker 1: they denounce him and they call him like a freak
48:54
Speaker 1: and a creep and like it's got nothing to do
48:56
Speaker 1: with them, Like this is funded by the Mexican government
49:00
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh no, it's not us.
49:03
Speaker 2: And so.
49:05
Speaker 1: He hears this in the ship's radio and he is
49:08
Speaker 1: levied because of course, like this is his life's work.
49:12
Speaker 1: He wants to make sure that like it goes and
49:17
Speaker 1: so he's he's just so mad because they're like worried
49:23
Speaker 1: about the bad publicity from you know, the sex raft.
49:28
Speaker 1: And he'd rest everything for this, like he had put
49:31
Speaker 1: everything on the line, and now he's done this to
49:35
Speaker 1: the point where he's become this weird I want to
49:38
Speaker 1: see like dictator on the raft and like that's where
49:41
Speaker 1: he's at right now. And he doesn't hear anything for
49:47
Speaker 1: a while after this. Now he doesn't like smash the
49:51
Speaker 1: radio anything and like a weird rage. He just kind
49:55
Speaker 1: of doesn't hear from anybody for a while, probably because
49:58
Speaker 1: they're like, let's know, poke the bear. I think now
50:07
Speaker 1: basically the radio gets away banjaxed, right, and nobody can
50:11
Speaker 1: get in contact with them, and so they get worried,
50:13
Speaker 1: Like people are genuinely concerned. They're like, where the hell's
50:16
Speaker 1: the raft. They're worried it's capsized, or that something's gone wrong,
50:22
Speaker 1: or they've been taken by pirates, you know, like raft tracking,
50:26
Speaker 1: and they're like, what are we gonna do? And so
50:30
Speaker 1: they send planes and things like fly over and then finally,
50:34
Speaker 1: on like July eighteenth, the search plane sees the raft
50:39
Speaker 1: and they're all waving and stuff. I'm like, cool, it's fine,
50:41
Speaker 1: never mind. They're like on the sea, Cabby and c
50:49
Speaker 1: and and they're relatively safe, safed, relatively safe, except for
50:56
Speaker 1: the fact that what should be the main sort of
51:03
Speaker 1: moment for this experiment, it's coming upon them because there
51:08
Speaker 1: is a storm coming, like proper hurricane, and like it
51:14
Speaker 1: could be it pure survival. It's you know, man versus nature,
51:21
Speaker 1: humanity versus the sea. You know, when he's like, right,
51:25
Speaker 1: this is gonna be perfect. It's gonna be perfect conditions
51:28
Speaker 1: for like dealing with this situation. Oh, actually, before I
51:32
Speaker 1: get there, out I forgot this, but this is amazing actually. So,
51:35
Speaker 1: like somewhere like between the Atlantic and the Caribbean, he
51:40
Speaker 1: he something goes wrong, something goes wrong with the rudder, right,
51:46
Speaker 1: it doesn't work properly, and and he's like, instead of
51:51
Speaker 1: letting you know, the person who he has brought on
51:55
Speaker 1: specifically for this job, the woman, to go do it,
51:58
Speaker 1: he's like, hmm, I'm gonna do it myself. And he
52:01
Speaker 1: tries to do it, puts on his scuba gear, and
52:04
Speaker 1: he just can't fix it, like he bothers it up completely,
52:07
Speaker 1: and so he's like mad at it. He tries it,
52:11
Speaker 1: but he just doesn't do anything, and so he just
52:13
Speaker 1: can't fix it because you know, that's not what he's
52:16
Speaker 1: trained and doing. And so he decides that you know,
52:20
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna fix it. We're just gonna have to suffer
52:23
Speaker 1: until like a man fixes it. And so he goes
52:27
Speaker 1: to bed, and then when he's sleeping, she puts on
52:31
Speaker 1: her gear. She goes in under and like fixes the
52:35
Speaker 1: rudder because that's her bloody job. So she does that.
52:40
Speaker 1: And then when he finds out, he is loved, and
52:43
Speaker 1: he's like pouting for days, like he's so mad about it,
52:47
Speaker 1: but back to this storm. He's like, there's a storm coming. Fantastic,
52:52
Speaker 1: it's gonna cause tension. It's gonna be amazing, right, And
52:56
Speaker 1: Captain Marie is like, no, no, we're gonna have to
53:04
Speaker 1: stop the experiment. It's gonna end early because I'm gonna
53:08
Speaker 1: find some islands. We're gonna bunk her down, we're gonna
53:10
Speaker 1: steer onto it, and we're just gonna, like, you know,
53:14
Speaker 1: wait till the storm passes. And he's like, my experiment.
53:19
Speaker 1: You can't stop this, Like what are you doing? And
53:23
Speaker 1: Mari he's like, well, you hired me. I'm the captain.
53:27
Speaker 1: And he's effectively like I'm the captain now, Like he
53:31
Speaker 1: just decides he's the captain. And he's like, no, you're fired.
53:34
Speaker 1: You're fired. End of discussion done, And so he fires
53:38
Speaker 1: her like the man with no captaining experience. It's like
53:44
Speaker 1: it's a mutiny. He mutinies the captain whom he hired
53:49
Speaker 1: because she was more concerned with keeping everyone safe. So here,
53:53
Speaker 1: the first thing he does is bag He's up like
53:56
Speaker 1: the camera, his notes, all of like the files, the questionnails.
54:02
Speaker 1: He just seals them up, make sure they're safe first,
54:06
Speaker 1: right then he's like batten down, the hatches, lock up,
54:13
Speaker 1: and they all just huddle and hope for the best. Now,
54:17
Speaker 1: in a crazy random happenstance, they managed to like not
54:22
Speaker 1: hit the storm like they get the tail end of it,
54:25
Speaker 1: like they miss the eye, they miss like the edges,
54:29
Speaker 1: they miss it all, like they are so lucky, and
54:33
Speaker 1: it just like barely touches them. So what was gonna
54:38
Speaker 1: be Like this big, massive like issue just isn't. Now
54:46
Speaker 1: he's clearly mad, even though the answer seems to be
54:50
Speaker 1: put women in charge and there's no hostility because he
54:55
Speaker 1: was so convinced that men wouldn't like follow women's orders
54:59
Speaker 1: or you know, do the menial tasks and whatnot, but
55:05
Speaker 1: they did so. Now at this point, everybody just fully
55:11
Speaker 1: resents Santiago Jeneviez like they they hate him. Like it
55:17
Speaker 1: gets to the point where they start having secret meetings,
55:21
Speaker 1: clandestine meetings on the riff right where they're like, well,
55:27
Speaker 1: what if something happens to him, like they are planning
55:31
Speaker 1: his murder because they're just so done, Like he is
55:36
Speaker 1: all the focus of the regression and rage because he
55:39
Speaker 1: has created horrible situations because he mutinated against the captain.
55:44
Speaker 1: He put them all in danger, like he's he's the
55:48
Speaker 1: root cause here, and so like you've got them going, oh,
55:53
Speaker 1: what if he had an accident when taking medicine, like
55:58
Speaker 1: we accidentally gave to much of it like whips. What
56:02
Speaker 1: if he fell overboard? What if we did like a
56:05
Speaker 1: fuel murder on the Orient Express situation where we all
56:09
Speaker 1: put our hands on and pushed down at the same time,
56:12
Speaker 1: like ooh, like we're all we're either all in it
56:17
Speaker 1: or not in it. And so it's it's one of
56:23
Speaker 1: those things where like the seriously consider it, they're seriously
56:26
Speaker 1: planning it, and then they just kind of go eh,
56:30
Speaker 1: maybe not, maybe that's like a bit extreme. And and
56:38
Speaker 1: it's like it's the Japanese guy as well, who's like
56:42
Speaker 1: really involved in this, the guy who can barely speak Spanish,
56:45
Speaker 1: like they unless someone else is some Japanese like you know,
56:51
Speaker 1: but I mean bit extreme, bit extreme, and so yeah,
56:58
Speaker 1: they're like we're better than this, and so he said,
57:02
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, I guess I suppose, And so nobody
57:08
Speaker 1: ever brings us up. They don't mention it in the
57:10
Speaker 1: question eilse, I know you're shocked, and so jinves he
57:15
Speaker 1: never learns about this, right, and so like a little
57:21
Speaker 1: amendum like we were gonna kill you though for being annoying,
57:27
Speaker 1: but they didn't. So he ends up having this massive
57:32
Speaker 1: breakdown because he realizes that he's the cause, like he's
57:37
Speaker 1: the one causing all these problems, like he's the reason
57:41
Speaker 1: for aggression, he's the reason that any violence is gonna happen,
57:44
Speaker 1: and so he's having this crisis and well he's broken,
57:51
Speaker 1: especially as such like a macho like Mexican man where
57:56
Speaker 1: he's not supposed to feel feelings, and he's feeling all
57:59
Speaker 1: of them, and so he's having a way bit of
58:00
Speaker 1: a breakdown. And mid breakdown, they realize that they're in
58:08
Speaker 1: a shipping lane and there's a tanker and it's coming
58:11
Speaker 1: for them, and he doesn't know what to do because
58:16
Speaker 1: he he just freaks out. He breaks down. He just
58:20
Speaker 1: starts screaming and flailing his arms. Now you can watch
58:24
Speaker 1: this footage. You can watch him freak out. And Maria
58:29
Speaker 1: is just like, fuck this for a game of soldiers,
58:32
Speaker 1: and she decides to just take charge, Like she just
58:37
Speaker 1: starts grabbing people and she goes, you grab the flares,
58:43
Speaker 1: you grab a flag, you get on the radio, see
58:47
Speaker 1: if you can get them to like pick up on us.
58:50
Speaker 1: You just start heading this horn as hard as you can,
58:54
Speaker 1: just like make as much noise. And so they're like
58:58
Speaker 1: you can watch this. You can see the players going
59:00
Speaker 1: off now Luckily, luckily, like this means the shipping tanker
59:07
Speaker 1: which could not see them beforehand because it's a massive
59:10
Speaker 1: tanker and this is a wee metal raft, right, like
59:14
Speaker 1: it manages to get out of the way, like just
59:20
Speaker 1: out just in time, you know. And after this, doctor
59:25
Speaker 1: Santiago Genovese gets sick. He has an infection of some kind,
59:30
Speaker 1: Like did he manifest it? Was it just from him
59:34
Speaker 1: being so broken down and worn down? Hymn's to say,
59:38
Speaker 1: all we know is that it happened, and so he
59:42
Speaker 1: had become this little exile. He just goes to the cavern.
59:45
Speaker 1: It just hides for the rest of the journey because
59:50
Speaker 1: basically he's created this whole situation. He's made an US
59:54
Speaker 1: versus them where he is the enemy. And so now
59:57
Speaker 1: that he's away and out the way, right, they have
1:00:00
Speaker 1: a really great time. They're singing, they're dancing, they're enjoying
1:00:04
Speaker 1: each other's company. They were probably finally having some like
1:00:09
Speaker 1: horizontal tangos on the Aurora raft, you know, and they're
1:00:15
Speaker 1: at it and they're having a great time, wonderful, best
1:00:17
Speaker 1: time ever, super fun times, and that's they're doing right
1:00:21
Speaker 1: now that he's not there, creating conflict. Like it's almost
1:00:26
Speaker 1: as if he kind of answered his question by not
1:00:31
Speaker 1: making the thing you wanted to happen happen. So it
1:00:35
Speaker 1: gets to the point where they're like, you know what,
1:00:38
Speaker 1: like we could have gone on another like sailing just
1:00:41
Speaker 1: without him, and we would have been fine. We would
1:00:44
Speaker 1: happily go back. And so when they finally reach Mexico
1:00:47
Speaker 1: after one hundred and one days, right, they're actually kind
1:00:52
Speaker 1: of sad to leave the boat. So they get there,
1:00:56
Speaker 1: there's a big party, and they're like they're also glad
1:01:01
Speaker 1: to be on dry land, obviously. But the next day
1:01:05
Speaker 1: they go back to you know, the raft because they've
1:01:09
Speaker 1: got one more like sort of end of meeting meeting,
1:01:16
Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, I think he requests them to
1:01:19
Speaker 1: come back, and he's like, thanks for coming on a
1:01:21
Speaker 1: sex raft. Can you fill out these question nails please?
1:01:24
Speaker 1: One last one? And it's like they start chatting about stuff,
1:01:32
Speaker 1: and the majority say that it's a success, even though
1:01:37
Speaker 1: he thinks it's been a failure and they're like, well,
1:01:39
Speaker 1: we learn stuff about ourselves, we learn stuff about humanity.
1:01:44
Speaker 1: And Fay who the twenty three year old, She's like,
1:01:49
Speaker 1: it's a massive success and everyone really you're saying that
1:01:54
Speaker 1: because wasn't he like picking on you like the most,
1:01:57
Speaker 1: trying to make you shag a priest and saying all
1:02:00
Speaker 1: these very weirdly stereotypical things about you. And she's like, yeah,
1:02:07
Speaker 1: like it was them and us, which is what he wanted,
1:02:11
Speaker 1: and he saw that the cause of the problem was
1:02:14
Speaker 1: this dude in power, like yeah, like we started out
1:02:20
Speaker 1: as them and us and then became us. Why she
1:02:23
Speaker 1: is such an existential thing to say, but like this
1:02:28
Speaker 1: is very much something a twenty three year old would say.
1:02:33
Speaker 1: But like she's she's she did good, she did great,
1:02:36
Speaker 1: And so that was that. Like, many many years later,
1:02:46
Speaker 1: sort of the surviving members they managed to get together
1:02:50
Speaker 1: for this documentary. It wasn't originally going to happen, but
1:02:54
Speaker 1: the director of the documentary he'd reached out to Maria,
1:02:57
Speaker 1: and Maria was like, Eh, don't really want to rehash
1:03:00
Speaker 1: any of that, And then she watched some of his
1:03:04
Speaker 1: stuff he's made and was like, no, actually, you're pretty killed, died,
1:03:07
Speaker 1: and so she then gets in contact with everyone else
1:03:11
Speaker 1: that she knows and they get together and they rebuild
1:03:14
Speaker 1: the raft to the specifications and they go back on
1:03:17
Speaker 1: it and they basically just chat like it's it's such
1:03:20
Speaker 1: an interesting thing. But yeah, that is the story of
1:03:25
Speaker 1: the Zex Raft. I'm sorry I lose my voice, so
1:03:29
Speaker 1: if it's not as loud, I'm very very sorry. If
1:03:32
Speaker 1: you like my retelling of this story, please rate and
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Speaker 1: see know I'm so tired. I'm so sorry. And recommendation time,
1:03:58
Speaker 1: I'm going to recommend a book called Butter. It's all
1:04:04
Speaker 1: you need to note butter poison Butter. Maybe you'll have
1:04:09
Speaker 1: to find out this is a woman who people accuse
1:04:13
Speaker 1: of poisoning people with butter sold and seen. I was like,
1:04:18
Speaker 1: I need this book. I bought the book. So for watching,
1:04:24
Speaker 1: I'm going to say Renegade Noll. It's a little bit
1:04:27
Speaker 1: fun and lighthearted and all a bit of a break.
1:04:30
Speaker 1: And for listening, I am gonna suggest and this is
1:04:38
Speaker 1: a bit weird. I was listening to the Stupendium and
1:04:43
Speaker 1: he did a really interesting sort of Fall in London
1:04:49
Speaker 1: musical which was really fun and weird and you should
1:04:53
Speaker 1: definitely go listen to that. But anyway, that is me,
1:04:57
Speaker 1: that is today. I hope you all are a wonderful time.
1:05:02
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to me, and be ready for
1:05:04
Speaker 1: the bonus episode coming later this week. Adios au revoir
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Speaker 1: of wid my Friends, Bye Bye,