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Close Encounters of the Fourth Kind: Five True Cases · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. Today's episode
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Speaker 1: is called close Encounters of the Fourth Kind, and by
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Speaker 1: that I mean, of course, onboard UFO encounters. These are
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Speaker 1: my favorite of all ufhone counters. They're so fascinating. They're
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Speaker 1: the most extensive of all ufone encounters. Really, they contain,
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Speaker 1: they encompass all the different types of UFO encounters that
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Speaker 1: we have, simple sightings, landings, face to face meetings with extraterrestrials,
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Speaker 1: and when someone is taken on board, there's virtually no
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Speaker 1: chance of misperception. You're enveloped by the UFO phenomena. You're
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Speaker 1: right in the heart of it, feeling it, seeing it,
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Speaker 1: tasting it, hearing it, the whole deal. So yeah, these
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Speaker 1: cases really have a lot to contribute to our understanding
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Speaker 1: of what it's like to have ET contact and answer
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Speaker 1: many of the questions surrounding it, like who are they
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Speaker 1: and why are they here? So these five cases I've
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Speaker 1: chosen for you today are pretty obscure cases. I'd be
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Speaker 1: very surprised if you've heard of them before, but they're
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Speaker 1: also super interesting. These cases come from all over the world.
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Speaker 1: I have a case from Austria, one from France, one
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Speaker 1: from Brazil, and two from the United States, one from
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Speaker 1: Washington and the other from Georgia. He's involved a wide
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Speaker 1: variety of ets and also contains some very compelling physical evidence.
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Speaker 1: So have some very interesting cases to say the least.
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Speaker 1: And the first case I want to talk about today
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Speaker 1: took place quite some time ago. I call this one.
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Speaker 1: I thought I was dead and this is a first
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Speaker 1: hand case which took place way back in May fifteenth,
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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty one in Salzburg, Austria. This case was not
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Speaker 1: officially investigated and it was kept secret by the witness
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Speaker 1: for many years. He finally decided to come forward because
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Speaker 1: it had been weighing on his mind and he was
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Speaker 1: afraid that he would pass away without anyone knowing what
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Speaker 1: had happened to him. It's a really compelling encounter that
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Speaker 1: was recalled fully consciously, without the aid of hypnosis, and
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Speaker 1: it's got some really interesting elements which at the time
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Speaker 1: were certainly not well known, but over the years have
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Speaker 1: been verified over and over again. This case has never
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Speaker 1: been officially investigated, and it's not super well known, but
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Speaker 1: it's certainly interesting. In a very early account, it first
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Speaker 1: appeared in the Prince George Citizen newspaper, and it involves
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Speaker 1: an anonymous gentleman, an army officer, who was interviewed by
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Speaker 1: editor and reporter Ron Powell, call him John, and John
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Speaker 1: told the editor of the Prince George Citizen newspaper, wote
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Speaker 1: I have a story I would very much like to
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Speaker 1: tell you, but I'm afraid you might think me completely
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Speaker 1: crazy or else laugh at me. And it was an
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Speaker 1: amazing story he had to share. It was late on
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Speaker 1: the evening of May fifteen, and John was about five
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Speaker 1: miles north of Salzburg, again in Austria, and he was
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Speaker 1: taking a two mile long walk back to his place
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Speaker 1: of residence. Suddenly he was approached by a man wearing
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Speaker 1: a helmet, and John found himself inexplicably paralyzed, and he
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Speaker 1: could only watch as the man strapped this weird black
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Speaker 1: square shaped device to his chest and then started to
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Speaker 1: walk away, and John found himself seemingly floating. After the man,
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Speaker 1: he was led to a round object about one hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty feet in diameter, which was landed in a field,
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Speaker 1: and he was taken inside. John found himself in this
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Speaker 1: strange room with a transparent ceiling. At this point, the
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Speaker 1: paralysis released when this man stopped pointing a weird little
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Speaker 1: handheld device at John. John sank to the floor, and
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Speaker 1: he first thought he had been captured by spies. But
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Speaker 1: then the ship began to rise upwards, and looking through
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Speaker 1: the transparent section, he could see first only stars and
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Speaker 1: then the moon, but soon began to see daylight. And
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Speaker 1: he now looked over and he could see this person
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Speaker 1: who had captured him standing on the other side of
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Speaker 1: the room, operating strange levers. And as John says in
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Speaker 1: his own words, he looked like a person like we
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Speaker 1: are a little bit shorter than me. He had no
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Speaker 1: hair at all. I could see through the sort of
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Speaker 1: glass helmet. His head was sort of a cylinder form,
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Speaker 1: a very high forehead with big eyes eyes. You could
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Speaker 1: see lots of little eyes in the two big eyes.
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Speaker 1: It seemed to me it looked like the eyes of
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Speaker 1: a fly. No nose at all, just two holes. He
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Speaker 1: had a very small slit for a mouth. It looked
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Speaker 1: like he had skin, It was sort of white. There
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Speaker 1: were two holes for ears. His skull was very large.
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Speaker 1: He had no eyebrows or any hair. At all though.
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Speaker 1: Torso was round, kind of like a tin can. His
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Speaker 1: hands seemed to have three long fingers. I couldn't see
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Speaker 1: any neck, but he was dressed in a material that
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Speaker 1: was like silver, but it wasn't shiny. This covered all
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Speaker 1: of him except the head part, which had on the helmet.
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Speaker 1: He didn't look at me at all, so this is
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Speaker 1: clearly not an average human. Now. The room was also
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Speaker 1: quite weird. It kind of had glass like walls but
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Speaker 1: looked opaque parts of it. Parts of it were transparent.
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Speaker 1: And as the sun shone down, John could feel the heat,
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Speaker 1: and this strange man who had taken him on board
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Speaker 1: this craft pulled a lever and a bluish tint protected
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Speaker 1: both of them from the sun. And John was really
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Speaker 1: amazed at what was happening, and he had a great
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Speaker 1: difficulty processing the whole experience, and he says, in his
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Speaker 1: own words, my first thought was that I was dreaming.
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Speaker 1: Then my second thought was that I was dead and
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Speaker 1: my soul was rising up. So he watched in amazement
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Speaker 1: as the craft approached the moon, close enough that he
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Speaker 1: could see the craters and rocks in great detail. This point,
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Speaker 1: the craft stopped for just a moment it moved to
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Speaker 1: the right, at which point John could now see the
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Speaker 1: Earth far below him, and the next thing he knew,
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Speaker 1: both the Moon and the Earth were receding very quickly,
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Speaker 1: so it became clear to him he was in outer
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Speaker 1: space and moving off to an another destination. And as
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Speaker 1: John says, then I began to think that this was
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Speaker 1: from another planet. And moments later John saw that they
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Speaker 1: were in fact approaching another planet. In fact, it came
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Speaker 1: so fast he thought that they were going to crash
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Speaker 1: on it, but instead the craft suddenly leveled out and
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Speaker 1: they were skimming across the surface of this strange planet.
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Speaker 1: He had no idea where they were, but as he
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Speaker 1: says in his own words, I looked out over the
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Speaker 1: land and it looked like a paradise. On one side
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Speaker 1: there were red fields. On the other side there were
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Speaker 1: what looked like gray green fields. Some places in the
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Speaker 1: fields what looked like big chimneys rising from the ground
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Speaker 1: with bright daylight, and the sun was shining with no
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Speaker 1: clouds in the sky. We were approaching the red fields
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Speaker 1: and I could see rivers with blue water in them.
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Speaker 1: Then we glided up to a field that was filled
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Speaker 1: with the saucers. Like I was in. There appeared to
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Speaker 1: be hundreds of them, so the craft he saw were
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Speaker 1: different colors gray, gold, and silver, and the pilot of
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Speaker 1: the he was on parked the craft on this weird
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Speaker 1: platform and quickly exited, and looking around him, John saw
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Speaker 1: others of the same type of beings that had taken him,
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Speaker 1: and he was looking out at some of the other
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Speaker 1: craft and he was really surprised to see normal humans
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Speaker 1: inside them. One craft had a woman with two kids
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Speaker 1: in it, another held a man and a woman, and
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Speaker 1: looking around him at the landscape, he saw what looked
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Speaker 1: like a herd of cows in the distance, couldn't really
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Speaker 1: tell they were quite far away, but on the ground
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Speaker 1: he saw big red flowers below him, and he wondered,
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Speaker 1: you know, could this be Mars? He really had no idea.
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Speaker 1: He did see tall bridges and also noticed that these
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Speaker 1: rivers or canals were basically straight, so this was just
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Speaker 1: a short moment, and suddenly the strange man returned to
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Speaker 1: the craft and they took off and very quickly they
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Speaker 1: passed what looked like a small silvery moon, which was
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Speaker 1: totally smooth, no craters, and after about ten minutes John
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Speaker 1: saw the Earth's moon approaching Earth was in the distance,
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Speaker 1: and in a matter of seconds, Earth zoomed up so
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Speaker 1: quickly that John once again feared a collision, but they
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Speaker 1: didn't collide, and in fact, they came down towards the
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Speaker 1: ground very quickly. John at this point was filled with fear,
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Speaker 1: and in fact, he wondered if this et was going
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Speaker 1: to actually kill him in order to keep this experience
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Speaker 1: a secret. But instead, the man did nothing like that.
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Speaker 1: All he did was point this weird pencil like device
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Speaker 1: at John, who again found himself unable to move and
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Speaker 1: floating along back to where he had been taken this point,
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Speaker 1: the man took off the weird plate like device that
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Speaker 1: he had placed on John returned back to the craft,
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Speaker 1: which promptly took off. Needless to say, this left John
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Speaker 1: quite amazed and fearful. He was about a quarter mile
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Speaker 1: from home at this point. He ran home excited, astonished,
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Speaker 1: and his wife immediately noticed that he was absolutely going
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Speaker 1: crazy with excitement, and she asked him what happened, and
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Speaker 1: he told her nothing. I'm just sick, As John says,
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Speaker 1: I couldn't tell her about the experience because she would
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Speaker 1: have thought I was completely crazy. I noticed the time
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Speaker 1: when I got home and it was twelve twenty a m.
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Speaker 1: The whole trip had taken about an hour. So John
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Speaker 1: told nobody, not even his wife, for a long time,
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Speaker 1: simply because he feared that nobody would believe him, and
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Speaker 1: he was also afraid that the ets might come back
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Speaker 1: if he talked about what happened. But as he became
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Speaker 1: an older man and began suffering from ill health, he
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Speaker 1: decided it was time to tell his story. And as
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Speaker 1: John says in his own words, I'm telling this now
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Speaker 1: in order to help people to know what is going
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Speaker 1: on in space. My heart is bothering me now, and
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Speaker 1: I feel I won't be living much longer, so I
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Speaker 1: have nothing to fear from those people. From this experience
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Speaker 1: I have had, I feel those people's culture and scientific
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Speaker 1: knowledge is much ahead of ours. They seem to power
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Speaker 1: their ships with rays, maybe light rays, but it's not
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Speaker 1: with motors like ours. My experience and seeing those other
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Speaker 1: Earth people on that planet show me that these people
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Speaker 1: have a great knowledge of the people here and are
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Speaker 1: much ahead of us. This creature treated me as only
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Speaker 1: an animal, so he really wondered where he had gone.
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Speaker 1: Was at Mars. He didn't know, but the whole experience
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Speaker 1: left him quite afraid. It wasn't long after the experience
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Speaker 1: that John and his wife moved to Canada, and years later,
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Speaker 1: as he says, I have finally felt I want to
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Speaker 1: make this story public. I have told you it just
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Speaker 1: as I remember it happening, and it is just as
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Speaker 1: clear as yesterday. So again, this case has not been
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Speaker 1: widely reported, and there are some researchers who feel that
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Speaker 1: it might be a hoax, but of course none have
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Speaker 1: been able to prove any evidence of this. The reporter
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Speaker 1: who interviewed John says he did his best to disprove
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Speaker 1: the story and catch the witness and contradictions, but he
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Speaker 1: was unable to do so. And as he says, I
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Speaker 1: tried to look for loopholes in his story and tried
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Speaker 1: to catch him up on many of the smaller details.
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Speaker 1: He couldn't be caught. But what's interesting about John's case
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Speaker 1: is that he describes details that we often see in
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Speaker 1: today's modern accounts. So who knows. You can make up
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Speaker 1: your your own mind about it. Well, there are those
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Speaker 1: who are skeptical of that case. I find it very compelling.
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Speaker 1: The witness clearly seems sincere, and the descriptions he gives
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Speaker 1: of these short humanoids being paralyzed during the encounter, The
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Speaker 1: description of the craft and so forth are all very
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Speaker 1: reminiscent of other encounters. I wish we could talk to
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Speaker 1: this witness today. I suspect he's passed on, but it's
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Speaker 1: certainly a compelling encounter that I wish was thoroughly investigated.
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Speaker 1: But you can make up your own minds about it.
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Speaker 1: I do think it's worth knowing about. And here is
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Speaker 1: another case of the five I'm presenting today. This is
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Speaker 1: probably the most well known. It has some really compelling
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Speaker 1: evidence to it in terms of physiological effects. There is
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Speaker 1: apparently an outside witness as well, and I call this
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Speaker 1: case examined by robots. This took place on September twenty ninth,
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy four, in Pacienza, Brazil. This case caused quite
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Speaker 1: a sensation when it became publicized. The witness initially wanted
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Speaker 1: to keep it secret, but wasn't able to do so
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Speaker 1: because he needed to seek treatment following the medical effects
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Speaker 1: he had as a result of his encounter. It's a
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Speaker 1: really interesting and very unusual case, but also contains some
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Speaker 1: elements we often do see in onboard UFO encounters. This
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Speaker 1: very unusual case was investigated in depth by experienced researcher
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Speaker 1: Irene Granci. The witness in this case is Antonio La Rubia.
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Speaker 1: He's a bus driver and each morning he has to
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Speaker 1: get up very early for his job. On September twenty ninth,
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy four, he was up at around two fifteen
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Speaker 1: am and was walking across the field near his home
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Speaker 1: when he saw a strange craft landed in the field.
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Speaker 1: He thought for just a second it might be a
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Speaker 1: company bus, but it clearly couldn't be because it was
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Speaker 1: out in the middle of a field and it looked
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Speaker 1: quite different. And as Antonio says, there in the middle
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Speaker 1: of it stood this huge thing, so large it went
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Speaker 1: beyond the boundaries of the football field, which is more
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Speaker 1: than seventy meters across. I had not believed in flying saucers,
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Speaker 1: but this was one, no doubt. Was shaped like a hat,
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Speaker 1: a dull leaden color. It looked like an enormous hat.
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Speaker 1: So Antonio at this point became afraid, and he was
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Speaker 1: about to turn and run, but then a blue light
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Speaker 1: lit up everything around him, and he found himself unable
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Speaker 1: to move. As he says, I only took two steps back,
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Speaker 1: for then I was nailed to the ground and saw
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Speaker 1: two little men grabbing me. I cannot recall how I
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Speaker 1: entered the disc, but suddenly there I was floating between
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Speaker 1: two rows of a dozen little men on each side.
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Speaker 1: They were small but had large shoulders. Their heads were
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Speaker 1: like those American footballs. There was total silence, so these
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Speaker 1: beings were very unusual looking. They were not very tall,
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Speaker 1: about five and a half feet tall, very close to
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Speaker 1: his height. He said. They looked almost robotic, with metallic,
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Speaker 1: oval shaped heads, shaped like a football, but set on
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Speaker 1: end and on the top where there was what looked
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Speaker 1: like a kind of antenna, and where the eyes would
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Speaker 1: be there was instead a row of small blue pulsating lights.
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Speaker 1: These beings had two long arms with no apparent hands
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Speaker 1: that he could see. On the end they reminded him
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Speaker 1: a little bit of an elephant's trunk, and for legs,
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Speaker 1: they had what looked like a sort of pedestal. He said.
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Speaker 1: The surface of their body was rough and scaly and
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Speaker 1: the color of aluminum, so they looked very much like robots.
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Speaker 1: But he was confused because he could hear what sounded
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Speaker 1: like breathing and they seemed to move freely, not in
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Speaker 1: a robotic way, but there were a lot of them. Now.
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Speaker 1: The first thing he did see when he entered this
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Speaker 1: craft was a long white corridor. He was immediately taken
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Speaker 1: into a circular room which was brilliantly lit with blue
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Speaker 1: and white light. And it was then that he noticed
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Speaker 1: the walls were transparent and he could actually see outside,
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Speaker 1: which was amazing to him because looking at the craft,
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Speaker 1: he couldn't see inside from the outside, but from the
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Speaker 1: inside looking out, he could see everything. But mostly his
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Speaker 1: attention was occupied by these strange beings, and there were
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Speaker 1: so many of them. As Antonio says, there were only
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Speaker 1: those strange little men around, about about fifty of them.
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Speaker 1: I felt as if I were in a crystal bell jar,
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Speaker 1: and felt that they were communicating among themselves as their
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Speaker 1: heads turned around when they were saying something, they kept
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Speaker 1: still and watched me with fiery eyes. So he's saying
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Speaker 1: that he found himself in this little sort of transparent container.
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Speaker 1: He was able to move his body, but couldn't get
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Speaker 1: out of this sort of glass like bell jar type container,
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Speaker 1: and the beings were all around them, and he got
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Speaker 1: a good look at them. You could see that they
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Speaker 1: each had belts or what looked like belts around their waist,
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Speaker 1: with little kind of syringe like devices hanging from them.
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Speaker 1: They weren't syringes, it was something else. He saw a
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Speaker 1: weird sort of piano like instrument in the room, but
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Speaker 1: otherwise it was completely empty. And as he watched, these
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Speaker 1: beings began to take these little devices hanging from their
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Speaker 1: waist and put them into the piano like instrument. And
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Speaker 1: it was then that the screen appeared on the wall,
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Speaker 1: which drew his attention, and it began to flash various images.
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Speaker 1: And it seemed like each time one of these beings
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Speaker 1: placed one of these devices from their waist onto this machine,
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Speaker 1: it caused a different image to appear. And as Antonio says,
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Speaker 1: they showed me a horse drawing a cart, a dog barking,
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Speaker 1: and a sudden flash that killed the animal. On the screen,
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Speaker 1: I was also shown a countryman in a straw hat.
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Speaker 1: I do not know what all that meant, but I
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Speaker 1: was all the more surprised when I watched myself on
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Speaker 1: that screen. I was naked and they were studying me.
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Speaker 1: So these images continued to flash. They showed all kinds
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Speaker 1: of images of one of these beings themselves being killed.
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Speaker 1: They showed him being examined by human looking doctors, something
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Speaker 1: which later actually happened. They showed him all kinds of things,
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Speaker 1: a few which he at first refused to describe. But
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Speaker 1: later he was interviewed, and he said, to the best
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Speaker 1: of his memory, he was shown about ten or fifteen images,
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Speaker 1: and he tried to put them in order, but he
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Speaker 1: said this was difficult because all of this happened quite quickly,
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Speaker 1: and he was, of course very much surprised by what
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Speaker 1: was happening to him. But he says, the first thing
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Speaker 1: he believes he saw on this screen was himself undressed
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Speaker 1: and being examined by these ets with blue lights. He
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Speaker 1: saw himself standing alone, still with no clothes. On the
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Speaker 1: third image, he saw himself dressed up to go shopping,
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Speaker 1: actually carrying a shopping bag and looking nervous. And the
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Speaker 1: fourth image was a peasant with ragged clothes and a
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Speaker 1: straw hat with a horse drawn heart on a dirt road.
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Speaker 1: So then after that, or joined to this one, he's
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Speaker 1: shown himself being examined by doctors, saw himself vomiting, soiling
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Speaker 1: his pants. Now this later happened, and he felt like
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Speaker 1: this was kind of a warning or sort of a
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Speaker 1: message that this would be happening to him. He saw
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Speaker 1: himself standing next to a bright orange globe of light.
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Speaker 1: Next he saw one of the beings standing next to
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Speaker 1: a bright blue globe of light. So these are all
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Speaker 1: very strange images, a lot of which didn't make sense
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Speaker 1: to him. He next saw one of the beings standing
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Speaker 1: next to a barking dog, which was trying to bite him,
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Speaker 1: and this being began to melt. Another being appeared pointed
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Speaker 1: a device at the dog, which caused it to melt.
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Speaker 1: This is what he remembered. Next, he saw something quite strange,
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Speaker 1: what looked like a et factory showing rows of disc
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Speaker 1: shaped craft being built. These craft were at all stages
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Speaker 1: of construction, with countless of these same beings around them,
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Speaker 1: hard at work. Next he saw a metallic train with
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Speaker 1: no windows entering a tunnel, and this was followed by
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Speaker 1: an image of one of the beings taking a blood sample.
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Speaker 1: Now he's a little confused here because he says this
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Speaker 1: did actually happen. His arm lifted up by itself and
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Speaker 1: one of the ets took a blood sample. So some
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Speaker 1: of these were images of things that were actually happening
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Speaker 1: to him, or did later happen. But next he saw
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Speaker 1: a street filled with cars, really crowded so that none
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Speaker 1: of the cars were moving, So there also felt like
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Speaker 1: a warning of some kind. But yeah, he said, they
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Speaker 1: took a blood sample. They showed him images of this
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Speaker 1: blood sample, which showed three circles with lines through each one.
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Speaker 1: So it took a lot of strength for him to talk,
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Speaker 1: and finally he shouted out to them, who are you?
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Speaker 1: What do you want from me? He's shouting at the
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Speaker 1: top of his voice, and as if in response to
23:13
Speaker 1: his shout, the beings all lifted their arms up to
23:17
Speaker 1: the tip of their antennae, which seemed to be rotating,
23:20
Speaker 1: and fell to the floor, just tumbled to the floor,
23:23
Speaker 1: And in fact, Antonio had the impression that it was
23:26
Speaker 1: his loud shout which caused this. But immediately after this,
23:32
Speaker 1: as again in response, Antonio found himself struck by a
23:36
Speaker 1: beam of light which rendered him unable to move, and
23:40
Speaker 1: he could actually feel the heat coming from this light.
23:44
Speaker 1: So this beam of light slowly began to dim and
23:47
Speaker 1: Antonio started to feel himself losing consciousness, and the next
23:52
Speaker 1: thing he knows, he says, they almost kind of tossed
23:54
Speaker 1: him out of the craft, but he found himself on
23:57
Speaker 1: the road in a different location, next to the bus
24:00
Speaker 1: station where he worked. This was more than two miles
24:03
Speaker 1: away from where he had been taken. At this point
24:07
Speaker 1: the craft and the beings were gone. Was now two
24:10
Speaker 1: fifty five am, which meant that the entire experience had
24:14
Speaker 1: lasted about forty minutes. So he rushed to the bus station,
24:18
Speaker 1: which was very close, and his coworkers could see that
24:22
Speaker 1: he was sweating very, very hot, so they kind of
24:27
Speaker 1: hosed him down and rushed him to the hospital. Antonio
24:31
Speaker 1: didn't want to go, but he really needed to, and
24:34
Speaker 1: when he got to the hospital, his temperature was about
24:37
Speaker 1: one hundred and seven degrees. The doctors could not believe
24:41
Speaker 1: that he was alive. His temperature quickly went down, but
24:45
Speaker 1: this fever kept returning. His temperature began to fluctuate up
24:49
Speaker 1: and down uncontrollably for a little while, and over the
24:53
Speaker 1: next few days he suffered some pretty alarming symptoms, including
24:57
Speaker 1: nausea and diarrhea, body ai headaches, in itchy rash over
25:03
Speaker 1: much of his body, hematomas and swelling at the joints,
25:07
Speaker 1: shortness of breath, extreme thirst, loss of appetite, and of
25:12
Speaker 1: course emotional distress. Weirdly, the doctors did not test him
25:17
Speaker 1: for radiation, they did give him a psychological test when
25:21
Speaker 1: he started talking about his encounters, which he passed, showing
25:25
Speaker 1: himself to be an intelligent, well balanced individual. Though clearly
25:30
Speaker 1: traumatized by his encounter, His medical symptoms persisted for a
25:35
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Even a month later, he says he
25:38
Speaker 1: felt strangely dissociated. He had never planned on telling anyone
25:43
Speaker 1: what happened, but it was because of his symptoms that
25:46
Speaker 1: he basically had to tell the doctors the truth, and
25:50
Speaker 1: that was when his encounter became pretty well known. So
25:54
Speaker 1: again he was interviewed by Irene Granchi, and later it
25:59
Speaker 1: was discovered that there was another witness by the name
26:02
Speaker 1: of cel Cell who was walking in the area around
26:06
Speaker 1: two am on the evening Antonio was taken. Celso heard
26:10
Speaker 1: a loud humming noise and saw a classic flying saucer
26:15
Speaker 1: described much like Antonio did. This was near Monte Carlo
26:19
Speaker 1: Street and Praca Ponto Chic Chic, which is very near
26:24
Speaker 1: where this encounter happened. So this case did get a
26:27
Speaker 1: lot of publicity and with the medical evidence it's a
26:31
Speaker 1: pretty well verified case and it's certainly never been proven
26:34
Speaker 1: to be a hoax. As can be seen, the medical
26:38
Speaker 1: effects in that case leave little doubt that something really
26:43
Speaker 1: profound happened to the witness. It's very hard to fake
26:47
Speaker 1: something like that. Certainly, those who know the witness vouch
26:51
Speaker 1: for his sincerity, his credibility. It's an alarming case, given
26:57
Speaker 1: that his symptoms were quite severe. It's also very interesting.
27:01
Speaker 1: All the messages he was given, the ets he describes
27:05
Speaker 1: are unlike any I really remember hearing about anywhere, So
27:10
Speaker 1: that in itself, I think makes the case very important.
27:14
Speaker 1: It's a very unusual case. They're all unusual. It seems
27:19
Speaker 1: that these variety of ets is just endless. And now
27:23
Speaker 1: we move to the next case, and this one I
27:26
Speaker 1: call I did not dare talk about it. This case
27:31
Speaker 1: occurred in Borges d'u paige, France. It occurred on June eleventh,
27:38
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six. This was pretty early on in terms
27:42
Speaker 1: of onboard experiences. It wasn't super well known at the time.
27:48
Speaker 1: This case was recalled through the use of regressive hypnosis,
27:54
Speaker 1: though the witness did have absolute conscious recall of her
27:58
Speaker 1: Ufo and Connor which involved missing time. There's a lot
28:02
Speaker 1: of controversies surrounding hypnosis, but the details that she recalls
28:09
Speaker 1: match up very well with other cases involving fully conscious recall,
28:15
Speaker 1: so I think it's a legitimate case. It didn't get
28:18
Speaker 1: a whole lot of attention, certainly not in the United States.
28:22
Speaker 1: It was a brief sensation in France when it had occurred,
28:26
Speaker 1: but it's a very compelling case. This case got a
28:30
Speaker 1: lot of attention in the French press. The main witness
28:33
Speaker 1: is Helene Juliana, age twenty. It was around one thirty
28:38
Speaker 1: a m. On June eleventh, nineteen seventy six, when Helene
28:43
Speaker 1: had just visited the movies in Valence and she was
28:47
Speaker 1: driving home along the five to three to one National Road.
28:51
Speaker 1: This has now been renamed the five to three to
28:53
Speaker 1: two Road. But she was driving over the Martinet Bridge
28:58
Speaker 1: just after Pisanton, This is near Chauleusge le Goubet, when
29:04
Speaker 1: her car mysteriously began to slow down. She at first
29:09
Speaker 1: wondered if she had run out of gas, but quickly
29:11
Speaker 1: looking at the gas gage, she saw that there was
29:15
Speaker 1: still plenty of fuel, but her engine continued to give
29:18
Speaker 1: her trouble. When Suddenly the headlights went out, as did
29:22
Speaker 1: the entire electrical system. This point, the engine stalled and
29:26
Speaker 1: she rolled to a stop. She was frantically trying to
29:30
Speaker 1: restart the car when she saw something in front of her,
29:34
Speaker 1: something amazing. It was a bright, bright light blocking the road,
29:39
Speaker 1: and it seemed to be sitting on the road itself.
29:42
Speaker 1: As Helene says in her own words, it is then
29:46
Speaker 1: that I saw, at about fifteen meters in front of
29:49
Speaker 1: my car, a luminous mass of orange color. I was
29:53
Speaker 1: very afraid, and I locked the doors of my immobilized
29:57
Speaker 1: car and put my hands in front of my eyes.
30:00
Speaker 1: At the end of a moment, withdrawing my hands from
30:03
Speaker 1: my eyes, I noted that the luminous mass had disappeared.
30:09
Speaker 1: So Helene isn't sure how long she was looking at
30:13
Speaker 1: this light. It seemed only moments, but there was a
30:16
Speaker 1: weird sort of timelessness to all of this. She does
30:19
Speaker 1: remember locking the car doors, shielding her eyes from the light,
30:24
Speaker 1: and then the light was just gone. At this point,
30:28
Speaker 1: as Helene says, I actuated the starter and the car
30:32
Speaker 1: started up without problems. I returned at home so upset
30:36
Speaker 1: that I missed the most direct road and made a
30:39
Speaker 1: too long trip by beaum del Ston, which is not
30:43
Speaker 1: my usual road. When I arrived at home, it was
30:47
Speaker 1: four in the morning, so her sister was at home
30:51
Speaker 1: and it was she who pointed out the time to Helene.
30:54
Speaker 1: Helene was absolutely shocked because this trip took her about
30:58
Speaker 1: two hours longer than it should have. Weirdly, the road
31:03
Speaker 1: she was on, the five to three to one road,
31:05
Speaker 1: is a pretty busy highway even at night, so it
31:09
Speaker 1: made no sense that she could have been two hours late.
31:14
Speaker 1: And Helene didn't want to talk about the encounter, as
31:16
Speaker 1: she says, I did not dare talk about it. I
31:20
Speaker 1: was afraid of being ridiculed. But she did and before
31:24
Speaker 1: long Helene's case received considerable attention and was published in
31:29
Speaker 1: several newspapers. And this was when she was contacted by
31:33
Speaker 1: researchers who asked her if she would go under hypnosis.
31:37
Speaker 1: What she agreed to do, and it was professional hypnotist
31:42
Speaker 1: Andre ray Vault who put her under a trance and
31:45
Speaker 1: led her back to the incident, and this was done
31:49
Speaker 1: in the presence of reporters. Under hypnosis, Helene did recall
31:55
Speaker 1: her car failing, coming to a stop and then seeing
31:58
Speaker 1: this dazzling line blocking the road in front of her.
32:02
Speaker 1: The next thing she recalled was two small beings approaching.
32:09
Speaker 1: This she had not remembered before she saw these two
32:11
Speaker 1: small beings approach. They took her out of her car,
32:15
Speaker 1: and she says that they were very short, so short
32:18
Speaker 1: that the top of their heads came up to her chest.
32:22
Speaker 1: She said they were dressed in a black one piece
32:24
Speaker 1: jumpsuit with a kind of hood, and she described them
32:28
Speaker 1: as quote, very ugly dwarfs. She said that they had large, round,
32:34
Speaker 1: dark eyes, a sort of flattened nose, a very small
32:38
Speaker 1: mouth which never opened. She didn't notice any ears or hair,
32:44
Speaker 1: but she says they placed kind of a quote towel
32:47
Speaker 1: on her face, and they started to carry her towards
32:51
Speaker 1: this lighted object standing in the road. And next thing
32:55
Speaker 1: she knows, she's inside a room, a small room with
32:59
Speaker 1: a rounded sea. She saw what looked like strange buttons
33:03
Speaker 1: on the wall, white red and yellow lights. Everything in
33:08
Speaker 1: the room seemed to be made of metal. She was
33:11
Speaker 1: placed on a metal table where she was restrained, and
33:15
Speaker 1: one of these dwarf like beings, she says, held a
33:19
Speaker 1: flashlight like object in his hands and proceeded to shine
33:23
Speaker 1: it down on her upper torso in kind of a
33:26
Speaker 1: weird series of circles. She felt like this was some
33:30
Speaker 1: sort of examination which seemed to be brief, but she
33:34
Speaker 1: couldn't really be sure. She said that they spoke at
33:38
Speaker 1: her with gestures and seemed to become frustrated with her
33:43
Speaker 1: inability to understand. She says they were trying to make
33:48
Speaker 1: me understand something. What it was, she doesn't know. But
33:53
Speaker 1: the next thing she knew she was being led back
33:56
Speaker 1: to her car, which quote reappeared in front of her
34:00
Speaker 1: as if it were invisible before. So she was placed
34:04
Speaker 1: inside her car. The small figures walked back to the light,
34:08
Speaker 1: which rose quickly in the sky and was gone. Now,
34:13
Speaker 1: when Helene was brought out of hypnosis, she still had
34:17
Speaker 1: no memory of the missing time or what she had
34:20
Speaker 1: actually said under trance, and so they played the tape
34:24
Speaker 1: for her. They recorded it and hearing all these details,
34:28
Speaker 1: this really surprised her because she had no memory of this,
34:32
Speaker 1: and in fact, she had some difficulty believing what she
34:35
Speaker 1: had recalled under hypnosis. However, the conscious part is absolutely
34:43
Speaker 1: something she says did happen, and those who know her
34:47
Speaker 1: say that she's a very honest and sincere person and
34:50
Speaker 1: is absolutely telling the truth. Her family backs her up.
34:55
Speaker 1: At that time, Helene was employed by the mayor of
34:59
Speaker 1: the nearby ton of host One, and he also vouched
35:02
Speaker 1: for honesty and integrity. I can only imagine what it
35:07
Speaker 1: must be like for the witness to go through something
35:10
Speaker 1: like that, And to me, the fact that she is
35:12
Speaker 1: somewhat skeptical of what she recalled under hypnosis just brings
35:17
Speaker 1: a new level of credibility to the case, because she's
35:21
Speaker 1: certainly not seeking fame or fortune or anything like this.
35:26
Speaker 1: Like most witnesses. She did not want to talk about it,
35:29
Speaker 1: and she didn't initially for some time. It's a truly
35:34
Speaker 1: incredible case. And here is another one, which I'm again
35:41
Speaker 1: pretty sure you haven't heard of before. This one is
35:44
Speaker 1: a very unusual case involving different types of humanoids. It
35:48
Speaker 1: was recalled fully consciously as well, for at least initially
35:55
Speaker 1: he did go under hypnosis and recalled additional details. But
36:00
Speaker 1: absolutely an astonishing case. I call this one what would
36:04
Speaker 1: you want more than anything in the world before you die?
36:09
Speaker 1: So this is a direct quote from the case itself.
36:12
Speaker 1: As we shall see, it occurred in June of nineteen
36:16
Speaker 1: seventy six in Indian John Hill, Washington. It's an excellent
36:23
Speaker 1: case of be careful what you ask for, because this
36:27
Speaker 1: involves a gentleman who asked for an encounter and he
36:31
Speaker 1: received it, and boy did he ever receive it, and
36:36
Speaker 1: it had a profound effect on the rest of his life.
36:39
Speaker 1: The main witness in this case is Rick A. Hale,
36:42
Speaker 1: and he was only twenty one years old when his
36:45
Speaker 1: life changed forever, and his encounters started in a very
36:50
Speaker 1: interesting way because this was something he actually asked for.
36:54
Speaker 1: He was trying to make contact. One evening in June
36:58
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six, he was out camping in the Forks,
37:02
Speaker 1: Washington area, when on a lark, he began wondering about
37:07
Speaker 1: esp and if quote, alien beings might be able to
37:11
Speaker 1: pick up on his thoughts. So he's not sure why
37:15
Speaker 1: he did this, but he started reaching out to extraterrestrials,
37:19
Speaker 1: as Rick says in his own words, So I decided
37:23
Speaker 1: I would try to contact a UFO by directing my
37:27
Speaker 1: thoughts to space and try to convince or entice a
37:31
Speaker 1: UFO to land and let me come aboard. And I
37:36
Speaker 1: would drive around going to different places where I thought
37:39
Speaker 1: they would like me to wait for their craft. I
37:42
Speaker 1: realized this would sound kind of crazy to most people,
37:45
Speaker 1: but at the time it seemed quite logical to me.
37:50
Speaker 1: So he was doing all of this sort of what
37:52
Speaker 1: we call CE five work. And it was only a
37:55
Speaker 1: few days later that one evening in still June of
37:59
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six, he was driving along the eroin ninety
38:04
Speaker 1: he took the Tuanum Creek exit and spontaneously started heading
38:09
Speaker 1: down this little road towards Eagle Valley. This road passed
38:14
Speaker 1: over the ein ninety and he it veered to the right,
38:19
Speaker 1: and this is when he saw them, three strange beings.
38:24
Speaker 1: As Rick says, they appeared to be about six feet tall,
38:28
Speaker 1: dressed in white suits and white helmets with dark visors.
38:32
Speaker 1: The beings seemed to be about ten to twenty yards away,
38:36
Speaker 1: walking slowly in a grassy field towards the road I
38:40
Speaker 1: was on, so he instantly knew what was happening. He
38:44
Speaker 1: instantly concluded that these were in fact ET's and that
38:48
Speaker 1: his efforts to make contact had succeeded. But instead of
38:53
Speaker 1: being happy about it, he says, a visceral fear swept
38:56
Speaker 1: over him and he literally began to panic. He says,
39:01
Speaker 1: the feeling of being alone with these beings was too
39:04
Speaker 1: much for me to handle. I wanted to get back
39:07
Speaker 1: to civilization as soon as possible, But unfortunately the road
39:13
Speaker 1: was very narrow, so he had no choice but to
39:16
Speaker 1: drive towards these beings who were walking towards the road,
39:20
Speaker 1: So he sort of drove down the road, drove past
39:23
Speaker 1: the beings who were still walking quite slowly, so he
39:27
Speaker 1: felt he would definitely have time to turn around. He
39:31
Speaker 1: drove about a quarter mile ahead on the road, pulled
39:35
Speaker 1: a quick three point U turn and headed back, and
39:38
Speaker 1: as Rick says, that quarter of a mile drive back
39:42
Speaker 1: was the longest drive of my life. So having turned around,
39:48
Speaker 1: he could still see these beings walking towards the road,
39:53
Speaker 1: and as he drove by them, he saw a strange
39:55
Speaker 1: beam of light in the sky heading in his direction.
39:59
Speaker 1: By At this point he saw the highway up ahead
40:02
Speaker 1: of him with traffic on it, and he says he
40:06
Speaker 1: very quickly reached it went straight to a holiday inn
40:09
Speaker 1: in Ellensburg, which was just off the I ninety freeway,
40:14
Speaker 1: but as he checked in, he was shocked to discover
40:17
Speaker 1: that it was now two a m. He was missing
40:21
Speaker 1: about an hour and a half of time. At the time,
40:25
Speaker 1: he didn't think much of it, he hadn't really heard
40:27
Speaker 1: of missing time. But afterwards he began to feel a
40:32
Speaker 1: lot of trauma. He felt great that he had actually
40:35
Speaker 1: made contact, but when he started telling people about it,
40:40
Speaker 1: they didn't believe him, and he didn't know how to
40:42
Speaker 1: handle all of this. He became very depressed. He turned
40:46
Speaker 1: to drugs. He suffered a lot of mental anguish, had
40:49
Speaker 1: a near mental breakdown, even to the point of thinking
40:52
Speaker 1: he was the reincarnation of Jesus. This is what he says.
40:57
Speaker 1: He was also having dreams of meeting ETS and being
41:00
Speaker 1: in contact with them. Eventually he did recover. He went
41:05
Speaker 1: down with his life. He found work, he married, he
41:08
Speaker 1: had children. But then, twelve years later, after hearing about
41:13
Speaker 1: other people's UFO encounters and missing time, he contacted Eileen
41:19
Speaker 1: Garut Edwards of the UFO Contact Center UFOCCI, who agreed
41:26
Speaker 1: to put him under hypnosis. Now this did take several
41:30
Speaker 1: sessions because each time he began to remember this encounter,
41:34
Speaker 1: he would begin to cry uncontrollably. But finally he did
41:39
Speaker 1: remember what happened. He says that instead of driving by
41:43
Speaker 1: the ETS, after turning around, he thought he had gone
41:47
Speaker 1: on to the freeway without any interruption, but that's not
41:51
Speaker 1: what happened. His car actually stalled. These ets approached his car.
41:56
Speaker 1: He got out of the car and was desperately trying
41:59
Speaker 1: to control his fear, and he found himself saying and
42:03
Speaker 1: acting in ways that really surprised him. He says, to
42:06
Speaker 1: control his fear, he found himself telling them I might
42:10
Speaker 1: be the reincarnation of Christ. He doesn't know why he
42:14
Speaker 1: said that, but that's what he said. At this point,
42:17
Speaker 1: he was too afraid to even look at these beings,
42:20
Speaker 1: and one of the ets spoke to him in a
42:23
Speaker 1: deep male voice and said, Okay, follow me, And he
42:28
Speaker 1: found himself following them dutifully into a field where they
42:32
Speaker 1: came upon a small craft. And as he was led
42:36
Speaker 1: inside this small craft, the et said something very strange.
42:40
Speaker 1: It said, if you were Christ, you would be more
42:43
Speaker 1: afraid than you are now. So at this point Rick
42:47
Speaker 1: was still too scared to look around and kept his
42:50
Speaker 1: eyes down as he walked into the craft. But very quickly,
42:53
Speaker 1: this smaller craft took off and went immediately to a
42:57
Speaker 1: larger craft not far away. Ill on the ground, this
43:02
Speaker 1: larger craft was olive green. He says, with a sort
43:05
Speaker 1: of oblong triangular shape. The smaller craft had landed. Rick
43:10
Speaker 1: got out and walked up to this larger craft up
43:14
Speaker 1: a small ramp, which he said kind of had the
43:17
Speaker 1: texture of dark polished marble. Once inside the larger craft,
43:22
Speaker 1: he says it was cold inside had kind of a
43:25
Speaker 1: musty smell. He saw a young teenage woman. They hugged,
43:31
Speaker 1: and she told him that the doctor was waiting in
43:33
Speaker 1: the other room to give him an examination. And he
43:38
Speaker 1: went into this other room, or found himself in it.
43:41
Speaker 1: There was a circular room next to a curved hallway.
43:45
Speaker 1: You could now see a row of tinted windows that
43:48
Speaker 1: went around the room, and in the center of the
43:51
Speaker 1: room was a five foot long sort of translucent blue
43:55
Speaker 1: table supported by a single pedestal. He's looking out through
44:00
Speaker 1: the windows and he could see three four foot tall
44:04
Speaker 1: bald figures wearing white overcoats. He says they looked like
44:09
Speaker 1: typical grays, but were too far away to make out
44:12
Speaker 1: much detail. But the next thing he knew, he's recalling
44:15
Speaker 1: sunder hypnosis. He was lying on the table undressed with
44:20
Speaker 1: a sort of blanket over him, and a human male
44:24
Speaker 1: stood beside him wearing a doctor's uniform, and this man
44:28
Speaker 1: introduced himself as Carl. According to the witness, this man, Carl,
44:37
Speaker 1: had short black hair and a beard, but also he
44:43
Speaker 1: saw another figure standing at the foot of the table.
44:46
Speaker 1: Rick says it was a sort of hairy creature that
44:49
Speaker 1: looked like a dog man, complete with teeth and claws,
44:53
Speaker 1: And it was this doglike creature who removed the blanket
44:56
Speaker 1: and began to examine Rick. Rick says, in his own words,
45:02
Speaker 1: I believe it was examining a skin condition, kind of
45:05
Speaker 1: a rash that I had developed when I was about
45:07
Speaker 1: thirteen years old. The wolf being grabbed my knees and
45:12
Speaker 1: I became very scared of it. Then I heard a
45:16
Speaker 1: voice say, don't be scared, he won't hurt you. That
45:21
Speaker 1: calmed me down, and the wolf being finished his examination
45:25
Speaker 1: of my body and left. Then a voice told me
45:29
Speaker 1: it was okay to get up and get dressed. The
45:33
Speaker 1: next thing Rick knew he was in another room talking
45:36
Speaker 1: to a human looking male who asked him, what would
45:39
Speaker 1: you want more than anything else in the world before
45:43
Speaker 1: you die? And I'll just let Rick describe what happened next,
45:48
Speaker 1: because it's quite interesting. As Rick says, this question kind
45:53
Speaker 1: of stunned me because I felt this person may have
45:56
Speaker 1: the power to grant me my reply. Plus the thought
46:00
Speaker 1: maybe he was going to kill me also entered my mind.
46:04
Speaker 1: My mind started to race with thoughts like millions of dollars,
46:08
Speaker 1: a wife and kids live forever, become the president of
46:13
Speaker 1: the USA. Then a thought of Christ dying on the
46:17
Speaker 1: cross came to me, and I looked up at the
46:20
Speaker 1: Leader and said peace on Earth. At this point, the
46:24
Speaker 1: Leader smiled but didn't reply, and instead Rick found himself
46:30
Speaker 1: being led to another room which was kind of a
46:33
Speaker 1: sunken room with pillars all around the perimeter. And this
46:38
Speaker 1: was quite a few feet down and someone next to
46:41
Speaker 1: Rick asked him, would you be able to get down
46:45
Speaker 1: to the floor, and Rick said sure, and he dutifully
46:48
Speaker 1: hopped down into the sunken room. And this is where
46:51
Speaker 1: he saw another examination table, and although he was fearful,
46:57
Speaker 1: he decided it was best to cooperate and decided to
47:00
Speaker 1: just lay down and submit to what he thought they wanted,
47:04
Speaker 1: which was another possible exam And at this point he
47:07
Speaker 1: saw bright flashing lights, he heard his humming sound, he
47:11
Speaker 1: could feel the table vibrating. He became frightened again, closed
47:16
Speaker 1: his eyes and opening them he saw some strange instruments
47:20
Speaker 1: around him, so apparently he was being examined again. This
47:25
Speaker 1: went on for about a minute when suddenly everything became still.
47:28
Speaker 1: The sound stopped. Rick opened his eyes and saw that
47:32
Speaker 1: he was now alone. He hopped off the table. He
47:36
Speaker 1: saw a staircase leading upward, so he went up the stairs,
47:40
Speaker 1: and this was when he saw a blonde haired human
47:43
Speaker 1: male who told Rick that it was time for him
47:46
Speaker 1: to go for a ride. And the next thing Rick knew,
47:50
Speaker 1: he was flying through the air, watching the craft recede
47:53
Speaker 1: behind him, and realized he was heading back towards his car.
47:58
Speaker 1: As this is going on, he starts chanting to himself,
48:01
Speaker 1: I won't forget. I won't forget. I won't forget. Next
48:06
Speaker 1: thing he knows is being placed in his car. He
48:09
Speaker 1: feels his head going down and resting on the steering
48:12
Speaker 1: wheel and he kind of fell asleep, and when he
48:16
Speaker 1: woke up, he had completely forgotten the entire experience. So
48:21
Speaker 1: this is what he recalled under hypnosis. Rick does remain
48:25
Speaker 1: a bit ambivalent about the hypnotic recall, but he does
48:30
Speaker 1: say that some of it did match the dreams he
48:32
Speaker 1: was having following his encounter. I think you'll agree that's
48:36
Speaker 1: an absolutely astonishing case, one with an enormous amount of
48:41
Speaker 1: detail to it. I love that the witness was able
48:44
Speaker 1: to provide drawings of some of what he experienced, because
48:48
Speaker 1: that definitely helps bring the case to life. And it's
48:52
Speaker 1: just so unusual how the etis communicated with him. All
48:57
Speaker 1: of it is unusual, particularly the types of eating he saw.
49:02
Speaker 1: And now we move to the last case of this
49:05
Speaker 1: little collection. I call this one. They are real nice
49:10
Speaker 1: and this I don't have the exact date of this
49:13
Speaker 1: was probably late nineteen eighties early nineteen nineties, and the
49:17
Speaker 1: location is not listed precisely either, but apparently is somewhere
49:22
Speaker 1: in the state of Georgia. This one is a really
49:26
Speaker 1: profound case. This one is fully consciously recalled, and the
49:30
Speaker 1: main witness is a very young boy who has been
49:34
Speaker 1: having regular contacts with ets, and what happens to him
49:38
Speaker 1: when he's taken on board is so interesting. The details
49:43
Speaker 1: he describes I have heard before, but he describes in
49:47
Speaker 1: real amazing detail, and he also describes some really kind
49:51
Speaker 1: of interesting and unusual incidents that occurred to him while
49:55
Speaker 1: he interacted with these ets who appear to be the typical.
50:01
Speaker 1: This last case is probably my favorite of this little
50:04
Speaker 1: collection because it's so interesting. It comes from researcher C.
50:09
Speaker 1: Lee Culver and it involves a ten year old boy
50:13
Speaker 1: who is given the pseudonym Peter. And although the exact
50:18
Speaker 1: date and location of this case is unknown, Peter's case
50:22
Speaker 1: is of particular interest because of the experiences he describes now.
50:27
Speaker 1: Peter says it around age four or five, he started
50:30
Speaker 1: to be contacted by E. T's who he describes as
50:34
Speaker 1: having very large heads, yellowish eyes, no visible ears, and
50:39
Speaker 1: a very small mouth, so that they have dark, almost
50:43
Speaker 1: bluish skin, very short neck, long arms, and he says
50:48
Speaker 1: that they are quote skinny and bony about the ribs
50:52
Speaker 1: at the hips, you can see where the bones connect,
50:56
Speaker 1: he says, quote the aliens kind of look like lizards.
51:01
Speaker 1: Says that they all look identical to each other, except
51:04
Speaker 1: one is a little bit taller than the others. And
51:08
Speaker 1: as Peter says, he's the one that tells me where
51:11
Speaker 1: to go. He's a leader or something. Peter said that
51:16
Speaker 1: he doesn't think that they wear clothes. He says that
51:19
Speaker 1: they are both male and female, but you can't really
51:23
Speaker 1: tell by looking at them. As he says, you couldn't
51:26
Speaker 1: tell by looking at them, you just know. He said
51:30
Speaker 1: that they communicated with strange sounds that he can't understand,
51:34
Speaker 1: but as he says, they talk weird, but they are
51:38
Speaker 1: real nice, friendly and curious. They usually tapped my shoulder
51:42
Speaker 1: and point to something or somewhere. I just know what
51:45
Speaker 1: they want me to do. So perhaps he's getting telepathic
51:50
Speaker 1: communication here, though he didn't say that specifically. Now. Peter's
51:55
Speaker 1: experiences are fully conscious. He says they usually occur about
52:00
Speaker 1: once a month. He's usually taken from inside his home,
52:04
Speaker 1: though sometimes he has been outside and he knows to
52:07
Speaker 1: go inside so that the ets can pick him up.
52:10
Speaker 1: He just gets a feeling and on most occasions, the
52:13
Speaker 1: purpose of these onboard experiences is to be taken to
52:17
Speaker 1: what he calls quote the library, and as Peter says
52:21
Speaker 1: in his own words, it's oval shaped with books everywhere
52:25
Speaker 1: with a bench in the middle. He says, this library
52:30
Speaker 1: room is blue gray in color, and as he says,
52:33
Speaker 1: there is always enough light to see, but you can't
52:36
Speaker 1: tell where the light is coming from. He says. There's
52:40
Speaker 1: a shelf on one side of the room with books
52:43
Speaker 1: on it, all written apparently in English. But on the
52:46
Speaker 1: other side of the room is a shelf filled with
52:49
Speaker 1: books which are apparently written in different languages. No, he's
52:53
Speaker 1: not sure what language is, as he doesn't go to
52:56
Speaker 1: that side of the room. Instead, he's told by the
52:59
Speaker 1: Ets to read the English books, which he says are
53:03
Speaker 1: all non fiction and all about quote the Earth, our planet,
53:09
Speaker 1: nature and people. And when asked by Seelee Culver, the researcher,
53:14
Speaker 1: if he could recall any of the titles of these books,
53:17
Speaker 1: Peter said yes. He says one of the books is
53:21
Speaker 1: called Earth and Its Environment, another is called Mars does
53:25
Speaker 1: it have any plants? And a third was called Earth
53:29
Speaker 1: the Living something he doesn't remember. But all of these books,
53:34
Speaker 1: according to Peter, are about nature, the ozone layer, the environment,
53:38
Speaker 1: these kinds of subjects, and he says the ets bring
53:41
Speaker 1: him there just to read the books while they watch
53:44
Speaker 1: and observe him. Now, he does say that this room
53:48
Speaker 1: had two other doorways to what appeared to be other rooms.
53:52
Speaker 1: He called one quote the yellow room and the other
53:55
Speaker 1: quote the white room, because he says, whenever the Ets
53:59
Speaker 1: went in, these other rooms are lit with either a
54:03
Speaker 1: yellow light or a white light. He has no idea
54:06
Speaker 1: what's in those other rooms, as he has never been
54:08
Speaker 1: taken in there, And while these onboard experiences are usually
54:15
Speaker 1: all about reading books, he says sometimes he's taken into
54:18
Speaker 1: the same room not to read books, but to play
54:21
Speaker 1: with different types of weird et toys or instruments. One
54:28
Speaker 1: he specifically remembers it reminds him sort of of a
54:31
Speaker 1: Rubik's cube, except that it is round in shape. It's
54:34
Speaker 1: sort of a puzzle with different shapes and colors that
54:38
Speaker 1: has to be put together in a certain way. And
54:41
Speaker 1: as Peter says, they would sit and watch me like
54:45
Speaker 1: they're trying to figure out if you're smart enough to
54:47
Speaker 1: do this. So Peter's story, which was reported in an
54:52
Speaker 1: article for UFO Encounter's magazine, has some other interesting aspects
54:58
Speaker 1: to it, because, as Peter says, when he has taken
55:02
Speaker 1: the ets, scoop him up and he spends an hour
55:05
Speaker 1: or two or maybe more on some occasions with the ets,
55:10
Speaker 1: and then they return him home, but he finds that
55:13
Speaker 1: no time has passed. So several times he said he
55:17
Speaker 1: was outside playing when he felt the ET's calling him,
55:21
Speaker 1: he went inside, they scooped him up. He stayed there
55:24
Speaker 1: for as long as the experience took and then would
55:27
Speaker 1: be returned. So while hours passed for him, almost no
55:31
Speaker 1: time passed here on earth. And as Peter says, my
55:35
Speaker 1: friends would think I had gone inside to get a
55:37
Speaker 1: drink of water or gone to the bathroom. So he
55:41
Speaker 1: wasn't really talking about this to anybody, But Peter does
55:45
Speaker 1: recall one kind of interesting and somewhat amusing instant. He
55:52
Speaker 1: and his friends from next door were having a water
55:56
Speaker 1: gun fight, a square gun fight, and suddenly Peter saw
56:00
Speaker 1: this strange light flashing. He recognized it, knew it was
56:04
Speaker 1: the ET's calling him, and the next thing he knew
56:07
Speaker 1: he was on board. But he still had his squirt
56:10
Speaker 1: gun in his pocket, and being a mischievous little kid,
56:15
Speaker 1: he quickly pulled it out and, as he says, squirted
56:19
Speaker 1: the tall one. He screeched and started shaking, and then
56:23
Speaker 1: he ran back to the yellow room. They started talking again,
56:26
Speaker 1: and then they came out and they started saying stuff
56:29
Speaker 1: and told me to sit down. Now Peter could see
56:32
Speaker 1: that they were upset that he had pulled out the
56:34
Speaker 1: square gun and squirted him, and he tried to explain
56:37
Speaker 1: that he was just playing and that there was nothing
56:40
Speaker 1: in the squirre gun but water. But the next thing
56:43
Speaker 1: he knew he was being returned back home. And this
56:46
Speaker 1: is one a very few times that he wasn't returned
56:49
Speaker 1: to the same time. It was considerably later. Peter remembers
56:54
Speaker 1: this vividly because he was pretty unhappy that he couldn't
56:57
Speaker 1: go back outside and continue playing square guns with his friends.
57:01
Speaker 1: Was much later. Now, Peter is not alone with his experiences.
57:06
Speaker 1: His mother also has experiences. She never talked to Peter
57:10
Speaker 1: about it, but he did seem to know on his
57:13
Speaker 1: own because once after she was returned from an onboard encounter,
57:18
Speaker 1: Peter came into her room to console her and make
57:21
Speaker 1: sure that she was okay. As it turns out, his
57:24
Speaker 1: mother doesn't really like her experiences. She feels that the
57:28
Speaker 1: ets are using her as quote, a baby factory. Now,
57:33
Speaker 1: when Peter asked why the ets are here and what
57:37
Speaker 1: their purpose is, Peter had a very interesting answer for
57:41
Speaker 1: the investigator as he says, I don't know what their
57:45
Speaker 1: purpose is except they only think. The only thing I
57:48
Speaker 1: can think of is to maybe save the Earth and
57:52
Speaker 1: other planets from the harmful things that are happening to them.
57:56
Speaker 1: Because they have these books about the environment and the
57:58
Speaker 1: bad things that are happening now. The investigator see Lee Culver.
58:04
Speaker 1: He says that he has many other cases where people
58:06
Speaker 1: are given quote, alien ecology lessons, and he also has
58:12
Speaker 1: other cases where children are shown books that show extinct
58:15
Speaker 1: animals on Earth or animals that have become extinct on
58:19
Speaker 1: other worlds. I really like that case. It's not often
58:23
Speaker 1: that you get to hear from very young children while
58:27
Speaker 1: they're still having their experiences, and as that case shows,
58:31
Speaker 1: he's certainly not alone with them, given that these encounters
58:36
Speaker 1: are also happening to his mother, and that is actually
58:40
Speaker 1: more the rule than the exception. It's a really remarkable
58:45
Speaker 1: case with a lot I think to teach us about
58:48
Speaker 1: UFO contact. So those are the five cases I wanted
58:52
Speaker 1: to present to you today. I think you'll agree they're
58:55
Speaker 1: all very unusual and have some very interesting things to
58:59
Speaker 1: say about what it's like to have contact. The type
59:02
Speaker 1: of ets people see, they're the et agenda on our planet.
59:08
Speaker 1: I'm given that these people are often being physically examined
59:12
Speaker 1: and that sort of thing, and it's just darn interesting
59:16
Speaker 1: to me. The onboard experiences, again are the most interesting
59:20
Speaker 1: of all UFO cases, and again they have the most
59:24
Speaker 1: to tell us about ets themselves. So that's it for today.
59:31
Speaker 1: I really want to thank you for watching. I truly
59:34
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I hope perhaps you've learned a little bit
59:39
Speaker 1: and we're at the very least entertained. And until next time,
59:43
Speaker 1: keep asking those difficult questions, Keep searching for the truth
59:48
Speaker 1: because it's out there. Most important of all, keep having fun.
59:53
Speaker 1: Until next time, I will see you later.