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You Can't Have It All, And That's Okay · Two Personal with Joy Taylor

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  Speaker 1: If you want to stay in a relationship like this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not the person to ask this question too, because
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you to leave your man. Hey, guys,
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  Speaker 1: welcome Too Personal. I'm Joy Taylor. Thanks so much for
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  Speaker 1: gmail dot com. All right, time piss everybody off. So
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  Speaker 1: I have kind of I don't want to say I've
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  Speaker 1: avoided this topic, but every time I get into this topic,
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  Speaker 1: I got Bible upset. So I really wanted to wait
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  Speaker 1: until I was ready to join this conversation. And it
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  Speaker 1: keeps coming up, and it's a very highly debated topic
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  Speaker 1: on the internets. And it is girl bossing. Now, for
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  Speaker 1: those of you who don't know, I am thirty nine
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  Speaker 1: years old. I'm a millennial. I absolutely grew up in
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  Speaker 1: the girl boss era. I did the unpaid internships, I
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  Speaker 1: worked multiple jobs. I am of the grind till you
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  Speaker 1: die era. All right, Like that is how I came up,
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  Speaker 1: and there are certain aspects of girl bossing and that
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  Speaker 1: life that I do think are incredibly useful. There are
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  Speaker 1: aspects of it that I think are ridiculous and inaccurate
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  Speaker 1: and can open you up to be exploited. And it
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  Speaker 1: does not leave a lot of nuance, But neither does
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  Speaker 1: the conversation. I feel like now we are at a
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  Speaker 1: place where it's split because it's reached the internet, and
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  Speaker 1: the Internet is here or there. There's no nuance. These
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  Speaker 1: clips do not allow for the elaborate discussion around a
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  Speaker 1: particular topic. These screenshots don't put the entire thing in context.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, some very full successful women. I've had this
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  Speaker 1: conversation lately. Lately, Emma was pretty much drags for her
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  Speaker 1: opinion about on I believe it was key E Palmer's
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  Speaker 1: podcast about girl bossing and working from home. Bose talks
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  Speaker 1: about it recently Michelle Obama, and my overall opinion about
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  Speaker 1: girl bossing is just not limited to one line. But
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  Speaker 1: if I had to take all the nuance out of
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  Speaker 1: it and say what I think about girl bossing, or
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  Speaker 1: being in the workplace or being a woman with a career,
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  Speaker 1: the simplest way that I can put it having been
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  Speaker 1: in the workplace for over twenty years, you cannot have
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  Speaker 1: it all at the same time. That is not revolutionary
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  Speaker 1: to me. I learned that at a very young age,
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  Speaker 1: and the principle of it is you're going to fail
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  Speaker 1: at something pretty much every day, and you have to
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  Speaker 1: forgive yourself for failing at that thing, whatever day it is.
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  Speaker 1: One day. Maybe you didn't make it to the gym
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  Speaker 1: one day. Maybe you skipped out on your diet one day.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you weren't able to call your friend back who
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  Speaker 1: was dealing with something one day. Maybe you missed your
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  Speaker 1: kid's fifteenth ballet practice one day. Maybe your partner needed
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  Speaker 1: more attention from you than you had the capacity to
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  Speaker 1: give one day. Maybe you forgot one of your niece
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  Speaker 1: or nephew's birthdays. You forgot to call them one day.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you missed an assignment at work. You're not going
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  Speaker 1: to check every single box every single day. And I
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  Speaker 1: think the Girl Boss mentality preached that you have to
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  Speaker 1: be excellence across the board. You have to be a
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  Speaker 1: perfect mom, you have to be a perfect employee or
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  Speaker 1: a perfect boss. You have to be a perfect partner,
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  Speaker 1: you have to be in perfect shape, you have to
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  Speaker 1: look like you have everything together and have everything together,
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  Speaker 1: and that's impossible, and that is I think what triggered
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  Speaker 1: the initial pushback against girl bossing, which is that this
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  Speaker 1: is exhausting. I'm missing everything, I'm trying to hold everything up,
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to hold everything together, and then because of that,
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  Speaker 1: I'm failing at everything at the same time. I recently
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  Speaker 1: watched Bad Moms on a plane ride the other day
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  Speaker 1: because I needed, you know, something to just put on
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  Speaker 1: that I've seen a few times, and I love when
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  Speaker 1: she snaps and just basically is like, I give up,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything, and obviously like there's a message there,
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  Speaker 1: and then she course corrects and everyone realizes that it's
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  Speaker 1: not actually her job to be perfect and hold everything
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  Speaker 1: together and be on time for everything, and then everyone
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  Speaker 1: admits that their lives are falling apart as well and
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  Speaker 1: that they're not perfect, and then all the all the
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  Speaker 1: moms come together and they're nicer too each other. That
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  Speaker 1: is what I feel like needs to be the next
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  Speaker 1: step of this girl Boss conversation. But what I said
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  Speaker 1: in my one liner is what I really think is missing.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to take a step back from the workplace.
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  Speaker 1: That's your rights. You shouldn't be ridiculed for it. It
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  Speaker 1: makes perfect sense. If you want to work from home
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  Speaker 1: because you're tired of the workplace drama, that's your right,
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  Speaker 1: and you should do what is the priority for you.
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  Speaker 1: If your goal is to be the CEO of the
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  Speaker 1: biggest company in the world, you should aim for that.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to stay at home and be a
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  Speaker 1: mom and a homemaker and not be in the workplace
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  Speaker 1: at all, you should do that. The judgment of all
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  Speaker 1: these choices is what we need to remove. And I
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  Speaker 1: bang a drum constantly because feminism, like many terms, has
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  Speaker 1: been co opted and morphed and perverted into this idea
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  Speaker 1: that women who leave the workforce and are at home
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  Speaker 1: with their children now have lost their ambition and you
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  Speaker 1: have to work if you want to be respected as
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  Speaker 1: a woman, or if you work, then you hate being
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  Speaker 1: a mom and you hate everything that is feminine. Like
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  Speaker 1: everything is not in this particular box. There's gray areas
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  Speaker 1: across the board for everyone, and choice is the purpose.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason I feel so strongly about this one
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  Speaker 1: is because I don't believe in hustling backwards, Like why
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  Speaker 1: would I give up my rights and freedoms for a
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  Speaker 1: particular idea because it offends traditional sensibilities. Traditional sensibilities is
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  Speaker 1: what led to abuse and oppression. It wasn't that long
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  Speaker 1: ago that women had absolutely non financial freedom whatsoever. You
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  Speaker 1: could not get a credit card, you could not get alone,
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  Speaker 1: you could not start a business. You want to know
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  Speaker 1: why your grandparents stayed together for as long as they did,
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  Speaker 1: because your grandmother was a prisoner. She had no choice.
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  Speaker 1: Almost all situations that's involved domestic violence also involve financial abuse.
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  Speaker 1: They do not have access to money. If you can't
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  Speaker 1: if you have no funds, you can't run, and abusers
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  Speaker 1: know that. So that is one very large part of
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  Speaker 1: this entire pushback on women having options. There's so much
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  Speaker 1: to this conversation. Oh, I love seeing these memes. I
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  Speaker 1: can't believe women fought for the right to work, baby,
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  Speaker 1: Women didn't fight for the right to work. They fought
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  Speaker 1: for the right to get paid for the work they
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  Speaker 1: were doing. To get paid for the work they were doing,
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  Speaker 1: you can go out and get a job because women
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  Speaker 1: who came before you marched and fought and were beaten
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  Speaker 1: and abused and killed and raped and all types of
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  Speaker 1: other things for the rights to get paid for the
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  Speaker 1: labor they were already doing. If you want to stay
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  Speaker 1: at home and be a kept woman, focus your energy
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  Speaker 1: on finding a man to do that for you. But
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  Speaker 1: the entire trad wife pushback is bringing everyone back to
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  Speaker 1: this place where women should only have one option, and
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  Speaker 1: when women had only one option, they fought to have
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  Speaker 1: more options because women are not naturally submissive. We've been
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  Speaker 1: over all these things. I think it's a very very
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  Speaker 1: nuanced conversation and the idea that you have to be
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  Speaker 1: one thing. You have to be a girl boss or
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  Speaker 1: you don't give respects. You have to be a trad wife,
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  Speaker 1: or you don't give respect. You have to be a
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  Speaker 1: perfect mother, you have to be this, you have to
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  Speaker 1: Men don't have these conversations. Men don't have girl boss
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  Speaker 1: eras if they miss things with their family, with their spouses,
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  Speaker 1: with their partners, with their kids, like they're just providing.
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  Speaker 1: They're just working really hard. Nobody thinks of a dad
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  Speaker 1: as being a bad guy because he has extra hours
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  Speaker 1: at work. They think of him as a provider. If
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  Speaker 1: a man spends more time with his kids, he's just
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  Speaker 1: an amazing father. Wow, he's got his priority straight. There's
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  Speaker 1: not these narratives assigned to men and what they do
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  Speaker 1: in the workplace. And listen, I understand how toxic being
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  Speaker 1: in an office can be more than aware of it.
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  Speaker 1: And if it's not for you, don't do it. Find
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  Speaker 1: a way to make money doing something that makes you happy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying quit your job, but I'm saying, spend
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  Speaker 1: that energy on working to put yourself in a position
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  Speaker 1: where you aren't having to do that. But you can't
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  Speaker 1: have that and get promoted to CMO. And when someone
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  Speaker 1: says that, it's like they're saying something it's offensive. Baby,
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  Speaker 1: this is obvious. There's already all these things working against us.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're a black woman or you're a woman
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  Speaker 1: of color, forget it. Everything is working against you. So
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  Speaker 1: you can't have the perfect home life, the perfect work life,
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  Speaker 1: the perfect non stressful work situation, have everything be convenient
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  Speaker 1: for you and make it to the top of whatever
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  Speaker 1: ind something is going to be. You have to sacrifice somewhere,
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  Speaker 1: And that's not offensive. That's the reality. Mediocre men excel
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  Speaker 1: all the time, they are rewarded all the time. There
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  Speaker 1: is a man running for mayor of Los Angeles, one
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  Speaker 1: of the biggest, most influential cities in the world, who
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  Speaker 1: has never spent a day in public service. He is
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  Speaker 1: a mediocre man. He is a mediocre white man, and
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  Speaker 1: he is he may win the mayor's office for Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 1: We have a president who has no qualifications whatsoever. I
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  Speaker 1: can go down the line. His entire cabinet just bozos.
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  Speaker 1: We have a crackhead for the secretary of Health. Stop
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  Speaker 1: comparing yourself to men. They have a different experience, They
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  Speaker 1: have a different experience in the workplace. They are not
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  Speaker 1: held to the same standards. They are not held to
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  Speaker 1: the same narratives, and they never will be. But we
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  Speaker 1: have to stop bickering amongst each other about how this
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  Speaker 1: all works. Yes, if you're not in the office face
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  Speaker 1: to face with people, if people aren't knowing that this
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  Speaker 1: was your work, if they're not developing relationships and networking
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  Speaker 1: with you, it's likely going to be very hard for
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  Speaker 1: you to excel and get promoted and move up through
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  Speaker 1: that company. It's going to be harder for you. But
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  Speaker 1: if your mental health is more important, then let that
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  Speaker 1: be more important. But we can't reprogram the system overnight.
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  Speaker 1: We can't even agree on what women are supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be let alone say that you're going to be able
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  Speaker 1: to have those same opportunities. It's hard. The workplace is
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  Speaker 1: hard moving up and success is hard. You have to
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  Speaker 1: make sacrifices in different places, and a sacrifice is not
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  Speaker 1: a one size fit all thing. And if you're somebody
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  Speaker 1: who who is aspirational and you want to conquer an
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  Speaker 1: entire industry, you're gonna spend less time with your kids.
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  Speaker 1: There's only twenty four hours in a day. You're probably
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  Speaker 1: not going to be the best partner. There's only twenty
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  Speaker 1: four hours in a day. Or you're going to be
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  Speaker 1: the best partner and the best mother and the best friend,
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  Speaker 1: and the best sister and the best daughter, and you
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  Speaker 1: probably won't also be the best employee or the best boss.
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  Speaker 1: And certainly if you do achieve that, it's not gonna
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  Speaker 1: be every day. I think Michelle Obama had an incredible,
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  Speaker 1: incredible quote and she said, it's impossible to have it
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  Speaker 1: also stop with that there are trade offs, and it's okay.
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  Speaker 1: Life is long, and you have chapters, and I would
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  Speaker 1: argue that even within chapters, you have paragraphs, and day
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  Speaker 1: to day things change, and day to day, hour by hour,
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  Speaker 1: you have sacrifices and choices that you have to make,
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  Speaker 1: and every single one of those consequences. So to attack
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  Speaker 1: an entire idea of girl bossing as it being negative
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  Speaker 1: and it upholding this impossible standard for women, And yes,
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  Speaker 1: I totally agree it is an impossible standard. But accomplishing
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  Speaker 1: very hard things that are almost impossible require impossible levels
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  Speaker 1: of work and dedication and sacrifice. I've missed so many
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  Speaker 1: things with my family. I've missed birthdays, I've missed parties,
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  Speaker 1: I've missed dance recitals and performances. I've missed so many
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  Speaker 1: things in pursuit of my career. And now that I've
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  Speaker 1: reached a certain level of my career, I can shift
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  Speaker 1: that and prioritize them because I've worked to a place
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  Speaker 1: where I have that flexibility. I did not have that
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  Speaker 1: flexibility in my twenties. I had to make sacrifices. And
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  Speaker 1: am I sad that I miss those things? Yes, but
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  Speaker 1: it would have been impossible to do everything, and I
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  Speaker 1: not only forgive myself for it. I knew that going
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  Speaker 1: in and now I'm in a different place. But there's
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  Speaker 1: no version where I was gonna be as aspirational as
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  Speaker 1: I was and be able to check every other box.
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  Speaker 1: It's not real. But you have to make sacrifices somewhere,
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  Speaker 1: and when things are already stacked against you, you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to make more sacrifices, and they're going to be
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  Speaker 1: more painful. And yes, being at work is gonna be
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  Speaker 1: mentally draining. It's probably gonna suck. Every single job is
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  Speaker 1: not gonna be the best job that you ever had.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, probably most of them will be awful. Probably
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  Speaker 1: most of the environments will not be great. If you
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  Speaker 1: happen to only work in great environments, bless you like
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  Speaker 1: you're blessed. Be grateful. It's hard. Success is hard, require sacrifice.
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  Speaker 1: These are not conversations that men have, and we have
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  Speaker 1: to be more serious about it. If a man works
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  Speaker 1: eighty hours a week, he's driven. If she works eighty
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  Speaker 1: hours a week, who the hell's watching her kids? How
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  Speaker 1: are you gonna find a man when you're always at work.
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  Speaker 1: If he steps back for family, he's celebrated for being
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  Speaker 1: a good dad. If she steps back for family, she's
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  Speaker 1: given up her ambition. What does she even want to
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  Speaker 1: become in this world? Why did she even go to school?
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  Speaker 1: Why did she even start a career. Men and women
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  Speaker 1: are not compared the same way. That's why there's no
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  Speaker 1: man boss error era. If he fails professionally, it's because
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  Speaker 1: he's not supported enough at home. It can't be his fault.
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  Speaker 1: If she fails professionally, it's because she's exhausting herself and
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  Speaker 1: she really just needs to focus on one thing. It's
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  Speaker 1: always a different narrative, and the reality is you're not
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  Speaker 1: going to have it all all the time. You're not.
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  Speaker 1: You can't. Nobody does. The difference is when men don't,
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  Speaker 1: there's not a narrative and a story and a title
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  Speaker 1: and a boy boss era attached to it. So I guess,
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  Speaker 1: in conclusion, do what's best for you, which is always
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  Speaker 1: my feminist motto, do what you want to do. That's
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  Speaker 1: what the girl He's fought for. Your choice to be
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  Speaker 1: a girl boss and ignore everything else in your life
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  Speaker 1: until you reach a level of success that you want.
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  Speaker 1: Your choice to get married at nineteen and raise a
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  Speaker 1: family and be a homemaker, love that too, and every
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  Speaker 1: single other version in between. That is up to you.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm so grateful that women have that choice, and
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  Speaker 1: it is the power of freedom and rights that was
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  Speaker 1: fought for that they're trying to now roll back, and
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  Speaker 1: it's not a negative thing unless you put the idea
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  Speaker 1: out there that you can only be one thing and
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  Speaker 1: men never have to deal with this burden. So just
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  Speaker 1: consider when you talk about another woman and what her
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  Speaker 1: choices are and which advice she's giving you. Is this
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  Speaker 1: advice even pertinent to you. If someone's saying you should
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  Speaker 1: be in the office more, and you're saying, I don't
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  Speaker 1: care about being in the office more, I care about
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  Speaker 1: my mental health, then don't worry about what they're saying.
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  Speaker 1: If you're saying, I want to be the number one
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  Speaker 1: person in this particular industry, but I also want to
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  Speaker 1: go on vacation. I also want to work four days
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  Speaker 1: a week, and I also want to go on vacation
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  Speaker 1: a couple times a year. And I also don't want
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  Speaker 1: to miss anything with my family. And I also want
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  Speaker 1: to be able to work out every single morning, and
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  Speaker 1: I also want to be able to keep this diet.
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  Speaker 1: And I also want everybody to not have any toxicity
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  Speaker 1: around me, and I also want to make sure that
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  Speaker 1: my workplace supports this and love that for you. But
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  Speaker 1: if it doesn't happen, it's more than likely that that
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  Speaker 1: that's not going to happen, and that's all anyone is saying.
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  Speaker 1: You can't have it all at once. Nobody does. Men
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  Speaker 1: don't and women don't. The difference is the standard that
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  Speaker 1: Girl Boss girl Bossing set was that if you don't
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  Speaker 1: have it all, you're failing. That is not true. But
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with trying to have it all and
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  Speaker 1: have other things fail because that's a life. It's just
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  Speaker 1: different for men and women all right. Time to get
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  Speaker 1: constantly compares meets other women online and says I'm too
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  Speaker 1: sensitive when it hurts my feelings. Am I insecure? Or
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  Speaker 1: is this disrespectful? Okay? I want to preface this with
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  Speaker 1: I'm not if you want to stay in a relationship
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  Speaker 1: like this, I'm not the person to ask this question too,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm gonna tell you to leave your man as
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  Speaker 1: I've gone over before. It's raining dicks out here, so
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  Speaker 1: you'll be fine. You will replace this man. They're literally
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  Speaker 1: lonely in the streets there's zombies in the streets lonely,
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  Speaker 1: so you can get another man, which it kind of
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  Speaker 1: sounds like you should. So there's a couple different options here.
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  Speaker 1: One get another man, which is what I would do.
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  Speaker 1: Two well, actually, before I got another man, I would
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  Speaker 1: start comparing him to other men online, and I would
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  Speaker 1: probably seek for his biggest insecurity and find men that
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  Speaker 1: make him feel more insecure and compare him to them first.
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  Speaker 1: So I would do a little bit of emotional terrorism
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  Speaker 1: before I left, just to have a little get back.
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  Speaker 1: But that's just me. If you want to stay in
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  Speaker 1: this relationship and you want him to stop doing this,
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  Speaker 1: and he's actually a person that respects you and once
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  Speaker 1: and thinks your feelings matter, which it doesn't sound like
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  Speaker 1: he does, but you're not being insecure. It's incredibly difficult
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  Speaker 1: to move through the world and not compare yourself to
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  Speaker 1: other people when no one is prompting it. But when
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: someone is showing you things and talking to you about
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  Speaker 1: what other women online at that, which means he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: know these people and does know their lives and people
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  Speaker 1: only post their wins, You're not being too sensitive. You're
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: absolutely right to have your feelings hurt. It is disrespectful
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  Speaker 1: and you're not insecure. I would have a conversation with
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: him about how this does hurt your feelings, how you
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: do feel disrespected, how you don't want to be vengeful
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  Speaker 1: like Joy Taylor, and you want to keep this relationship
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: and you want to be treated with respect, and you
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: don't want to develop insecurities because of the way that
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: he talks about other women. If this is a grown
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: man who respects you and respects your feelings, he will
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: stop doing that. If he doesn't, then you have your
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: other two options, which is to leave him because there
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: are plenty of men in the world, and or terrorize
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: him and then leave him, which is always more fun. Yeah,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry he's doing that. This is crazy, And I
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: would say that comparing yourself to people online is a
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: very very dangerous thing to do. I've talked about this
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: in the past, and just comparing other people's relationships one
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: because you don't know these people. You don't know these people,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: you don't know what they're doing. People are editing themselves.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: They have a million filters. I'm shelf unclothed, and people
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: post the best parts of their lives, like very rarely
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: are you seeing someone out here telling you about all
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: the terrible things that are going on on a day
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: to day basis. That's just not real. And I highly
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: doubt he's comparing you to those people. So it's a
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: very dangerous game to compare yourself to other people in general.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: But when someone else is comparing you to other people,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: especially online people they don't know, that's incredibly weird. And
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: it sounds like he's insecure and a little emotionally abusive.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know this man, so, like I said, you
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: can always give him the benefit of the doubt and
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: have that real conversation with him, and if he doesn't,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: then then leave him. But I would I would take
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: some pounds of flesh on my way out. That's too
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