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Bam Adebayo Punches Tyler Herro, Wemby's "Max" contract, Conor McGregor's next move | 07.13 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Wave.
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  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A wave original.
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  Speaker 3: My name is Beaumont Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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  Speaker 3: give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are
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  Speaker 3: a hater. I was in Las Vegas this weekend, you know.
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  Speaker 3: checking out Summer League situation, and I didn't realize that
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  Speaker 3: it was a fight weekend. And apparently, Tyler Hero did
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  Speaker 3: not realize it was a fight weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Or maybe Tyler Hero did know that it.
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  Speaker 3: Was a fight weekend, but he misunderstood who the white
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  Speaker 3: boy was that was going to be getting his ass whooped.
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  Speaker 2: He thought that that might have been Conor McGregor. Incorrect.
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  Speaker 2: It was you, son. It was you. Those of you
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  Speaker 2: who don't know what happened. I gotta say.
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  Speaker 3: This in a bit of a more broad sense, right?
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  Speaker 3: This is the first weekend of NBA Summer League. And
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  Speaker 3: I think, and I've never really talked to anybody about this.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just making a certain level of assumption. But it's
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  Speaker 3: kind of become just like a basketball epicenter sort of
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  Speaker 3: situation because you've got NBA Summer League and then also
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  Speaker 3: this big AAU tournament that goes on that same weekend.
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  Speaker 3: And I've assumed, and I could be wrong, and a
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  Speaker 3: big part of why they do that is All the.
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  Speaker 2: NBA guys got AAU teams anyway. So then they're going
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  Speaker 2: to be there, right?
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  Speaker 3: So then you get like all the college coaches who
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  Speaker 3: are going to be there because there's the AAU tournament
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  Speaker 3: that is going on there.
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  Speaker 2: And you got the NBA and they even had an
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  Speaker 2: Aces game over the weekend. You understand what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: So it's a lot going on there.
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  Speaker 3: But I hadn't really given a lot of thought to
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  Speaker 3: the AAU tournament, except for the fact that It's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of teenagers walking around the casino. Now, they're not
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  Speaker 3: stopping and sitting and playing no games or nothing, right?
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying all that to say, and.
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  Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but I just don't feel like
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  Speaker 3: Las Vegas is the place for high school activities. I
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't care if it's the Nevada State Championship. I guess
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  Speaker 3: Nevada shit is all the same. But you get where
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  Speaker 3: I'm coming from, right? Like, I just don't think that's
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  Speaker 3: the wisest idea.
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  Speaker 4: Where else are they going to go? Reno?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Nevada's all Nevada, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 3: But even still, let's bring the teenagers to Vegas, man.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to.
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  Speaker 3: You go, I see a lot, a whole lot going
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  Speaker 3: on there. Don't know if I would necessarily recommend it.
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  Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. But anyway, so apparently at Resort World,
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  Speaker 3: they got like basketball courts, Ryan. And that's where there
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  Speaker 3: was some form of practice.
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  Speaker 2: It's out of Hero and out of Bayou over there.
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  Speaker 3: And I know some people have asked the question about like,
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  Speaker 3: how is it that this made the news? People get
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  Speaker 3: in fights all the time because this happened in front.
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  Speaker 2: Of a gang of people.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: This wasn't like a practice fight.
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  Speaker 3: Tyler Hero sees Bam Adebayo, says something, and the greatest
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  Speaker 3: detail from the report from the Athletic is.
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  Speaker 2: The two words, without hesitation.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Where they said that Bam Adebayo, without hesitation, stole off
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  Speaker 3: on Tyler Hero in the head area, I think was
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  Speaker 3: the way that it was put.
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  Speaker 2: You got to be careful about the specifics on that.
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  Speaker 3: And for those of you who don't know, Tyler Hero
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  Speaker 3: had got caught DMing with somebody on Instagram, complaining about
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  Speaker 3: Bam and basically saying, I don't really understand. Like, I'm
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  Speaker 3: the dude that they were trying to stop on offense.
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  Speaker 3: He ain't even got to show up and y'all just
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  Speaker 3: love him, which... Interestingly enough, it's not an unfair point.
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  Speaker 4: Bit of a diet get-off-my-Dickerson situation.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 2: It is, except it was on his name.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: It was on his name.
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  Speaker 3: But no, I forget which writer it was that reported
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  Speaker 3: that that was the thing that Jimmy Butler had also felt, because.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: When they don't want to give Jimmy to Max, there's
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  Speaker 3: always somebody that Jimmy's looking at like, you don't give
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  Speaker 3: it to him?
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Normally, Jimmy's right about this, but it is a pattern.
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  Speaker 2: We cannot deny it. But Tyler Hero seemed to have
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  Speaker 2: that same feeling.
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  Speaker 3: I forget who it was, which one of the reporters
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  Speaker 3: from Miami was like, yeah, man, guys on the team
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  Speaker 3: wonder why it is all of us are in the
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  Speaker 3: trade talks.
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  Speaker 2: It ain't never him. So there's a certain level of
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  Speaker 2: resentment that does exist.
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  Speaker 3: However, I give Bam some credit because people often talk
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  Speaker 3: about on-site, right? Like it's going to be an on-site situation.
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  Speaker 2: I'm swinging on you.
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  Speaker 3: On site very few people actually mean that even if
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  Speaker 3: it is on site they got a temperate on the
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  Speaker 3: front end with a little jibber jabber which means it's
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  Speaker 3: not actually an on site it's on site i will
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  Speaker 3: go over there and eventually perhaps i will swing no
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  Speaker 3: based on the reports this was on site.
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  Speaker 4: Bit of a heat seeking missile situation just straight.
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  Speaker 2: On site Right there, right there. He'd been telling people,
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  Speaker 2: if I see him, this is what I'm going to do.
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  Speaker 2: And then he did it.
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  Speaker 3: It was so on site in that way, Ryan, that
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  Speaker 3: I asked people if Asia Wilson was there. Because don't
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  Speaker 3: nobody make nobody get that battery in their back to
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  Speaker 3: fight quite like that girl being there. Like if he
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  Speaker 3: had been at the crib telling his girl, he'd go
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  Speaker 3: whoop his ass the next time he saw him.
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  Speaker 2: And his girl was there and he saw him. He
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  Speaker 2: really got to do it. Like, in front of your partners,
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  Speaker 2: we might have understood that you was just being a little,
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  Speaker 2: you was a little aggy.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: He gets like that sometimes, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently, Bam, Bam could not be a Houston Rock. You
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  Speaker 3: raise a good point there about to get off by Diggerson.
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  Speaker 3: Bam would have run, apparently, Bam would have or might
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  Speaker 3: have at least run up on Kevin Durant instantly.
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  Speaker 2: Nah, he brought it to Tyler Hero.
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  Speaker 3: And I want to know what voice Tyler Hero was
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  Speaker 3: using in all of this. Because what they tell me
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  Speaker 3: about Tyler Hero was it wasn't like that before.
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  Speaker 2: He got to Kentucky. Then I'll never forget when he
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  Speaker 2: got drafted.
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  Speaker 3: I hadn't really paid that much attention to what his
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  Speaker 3: get down was, but I saw him at the draft
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  Speaker 3: and his whole thing and how he was acting.
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  Speaker 2: And you can look it up on Twitter.
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  Speaker 3: I said that the appropriate draft comp for him was
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  Speaker 3: Scott Storch. He had all the way leaned in onto
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  Speaker 3: this version of Tyler Hero that we now see. This
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  Speaker 3: whole B-Rad situation. He was all the way there at
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  Speaker 3: that point. And I want to know, when he get
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  Speaker 3: hit in the face, does he get more B-Rad or
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  Speaker 3: does he go back to being Brad? Does he take
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  Speaker 3: it back to whatever it is? I personally am very
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  Speaker 3: curious about that fact. That became the single biggest story
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  Speaker 3: of the weekend, boys. Everybody has something to say and
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  Speaker 3: ask about that.
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  Speaker 4: Right. Nothing brings people together like a, not only a fight,
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  Speaker 4: but a surprise, a fight they were not expecting.
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  Speaker 2: A fight they weren't expecting.
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  Speaker 3: And as we know, nothing makes a fight sell like
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  Speaker 3: a little bit of chromatic contrast.
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  Speaker 2: The thing is, this is where it gets weird. The
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  Speaker 2: white dudes that are under the Tyler Hero archetype, they
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  Speaker 2: don't get the support of their own people. unless they
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  Speaker 2: come back home, right?
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  Speaker 3: And I wonder, and remember.
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  Speaker 2: Tyler's back in Wisconsin now. Think about this.
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  Speaker 3: Dave was mad at Tyler Hero coming out of high
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  Speaker 3: school because he didn't go to Wisconsin. Not only did
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  Speaker 3: he not go to Wisconsin, he went off and got
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  Speaker 3: less Wisconsin than he ever could have been.
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  Speaker 2: And now he coming back to play for the Bucs.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know, man.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe he can hang out with Cuckoo Cal and some
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  Speaker 3: of the other Milwaukee hip hoppers.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea who it is that he's going
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  Speaker 2: to hang out with. But I do feel like, and
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  Speaker 2: I could be wrong, somebody will have to go ask
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  Speaker 2: the whites. But if Tyler Herro.
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  Speaker 3: wants to get the sympathy that you normally get because
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  Speaker 3: some mean black guy, when it's stolen off on you
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  Speaker 3: out of nowhere, he's going to have to repent. You know?
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  Speaker 2: He's going to have to acknowledge some of his sins.
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  Speaker 4: Not apologize, repent.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got to come back.
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  Speaker 2: He's got to pay this off.
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  Speaker 3: He's got some debt to pay off as he returns.
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  Speaker 4: You know he's repenting if he shows up in a
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  Speaker 4: Packers jersey?
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a part of it, because he might
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  Speaker 3: have turned into a Raiders fan, right? This is how
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  Speaker 3: you know that he's made the decision to come back.
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  Speaker 3: You'll know he's made this decision to come back when
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  Speaker 3: he takes the path that many others in his situation
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  Speaker 3: have taken. I remember the first time I really noticed it,
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  Speaker 3: I want to say it was in the year 1999,
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  Speaker 3: around 2000. I saw it again, maybe about five years ago,
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  Speaker 3: give or take. And most recently, I think I saw
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  Speaker 3: it one or two years ago. And when I saw
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  Speaker 3: it happen one or two years ago, it was Post Malone.
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  Speaker 3: And when I saw it about five years ago, It
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  Speaker 3: was Justin Timberlake. And when I saw it in 1999,
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  Speaker 3: it was Everlast.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me, Whitey Ford. That's right. That's right.
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  Speaker 3: You know what time it is for Tyler Hero. If
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  Speaker 3: you want to get him back, you want to get
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  Speaker 3: the crowd back on your side, time for you to
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  Speaker 3: go to the pawn shop.
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  Speaker 2: And go get you an acoustic guitar.
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  Speaker 4: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: You go ahead and do that. You go there. You
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  Speaker 2: get that acoustic guitar.
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  Speaker 1: Guitar.
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  Speaker 2: You learn you three chords. All you need is three, baby.
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  Speaker 2: You go get you three chords. You go learn some
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  Speaker 2: old standards of sorts. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: In fact, you should have started practicing in Las Vegas
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  Speaker 3: getting the crew back. You had a test audience for
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  Speaker 3: you to work this out with while you was there.
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  Speaker 3: It's all them people that came to see Kenny Chesney.
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  Speaker 4: Interesting crowd, I'm sure. A little different from the summer
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  Speaker 4: league crowd.
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  Speaker 2: Well, keep in mind, there's a Conor McGregor crowd also.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I forgot about, I forgot about that.
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  Speaker 2: However, the Kenny Chesney crowd was easy to specify.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure they were.
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  Speaker 2: Out of the other ones, but.
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  Speaker 3: I think maybe Tyler Herro needed to go there. Or
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  Speaker 3: maybe he needed to, because it'd be too much for
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  Speaker 3: him to go all the way there. Maybe he stops
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  Speaker 3: at the Conor McGregor crowd on the way back. Like,
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  Speaker 3: this is how you.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of work it out.
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  Speaker 3: Or, or, or, or, he got to double down on
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  Speaker 3: what it was. Here's why that worries me. I feel
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  Speaker 3: like I've seen very similar movies before with people like
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  Speaker 3: this in these circumstances. where they get stole on and
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  Speaker 3: they need to make sure that everybody know they ain't
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  Speaker 3: no punk. Please don't start carrying a gun.
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  Speaker 2: And who knows, maybe he carries one already. I have
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  Speaker 2: no idea.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, please don't. Yeah, yeah, I'm just
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  Speaker 3: sitting here right here. Like, please, please don't. Like, again,
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  Speaker 3: I know you're going back to Wisconsin. If you want
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  Speaker 3: to get a gun so you can shoot some animals...
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  Speaker 3: It's a little bit of a different situation, you know? But,
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  Speaker 3: you know, very often, again, in these times, people feel
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  Speaker 3: they got to do what it take to get back
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  Speaker 3: their respect. And maybe sometime they go a little bit farther.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm going to be honest, if I was him,
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  Speaker 3: I'd be a little bit worried that all these cats...
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  Speaker 3: The rest of them go start stealing off on me
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  Speaker 3: for no reason. Also, just because I didn't really hear
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  Speaker 3: nothing in the story about him hitting nobody back.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no. It was not. They got an altercation.
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  Speaker 4: It was great. Bam out of body. Yeah. Hit him
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  Speaker 4: in the face here. Facial area.
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  Speaker 2: That is a great point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So you see why I'm worried, right?
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Like, like.
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  Speaker 2: Ain't nothing worse than.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody in that situation that then feel like they got.
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  Speaker 2: Something to prove. And hey, who knows?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe Tyler Herro gonna hear this and he gonna feel
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  Speaker 3: like he can prove it, run.
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  Speaker 2: It up on me. I'll take that for the squad.
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  Speaker 2: Ain't nobody gonna die. You know what I'm saying? It
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  Speaker 2: ain't gonna happen, right? Like I'd appreciate it if you
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  Speaker 2: didn't like pull no, you ain't gotta pull no tool
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  Speaker 2: on me. You ain't got a pistol with me. All
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  Speaker 2: you gotta do is come and talk real mean in
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  Speaker 2: my face, right?
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  Speaker 3: You tall enough than me, I'll give you the satisfaction.
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  Speaker 3: I'll let you get your money's worth, right? I'll take
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  Speaker 3: that all for everybody if that's the route that you
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  Speaker 3: wanna take just to keep everything safe. But in the
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  Speaker 3: long run, brother, I'm telling you, let's think about some
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: of these songs that you might wanna learn the words to.
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  Speaker 3: Fire and Rain, Country Roads. You know, I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 3: these are the kind of songs that, you know, Sweet Caroline.
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  Speaker 2: Just saying. Like, when you go back, man, you might
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  Speaker 2: want to play them, play them some jams that they do, right?
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  Speaker 2: But you got to think about how you move past this.
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  Speaker 4: Friends in Wild Places.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's... Call it Bat Rouge. Isn't that what y'all
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  Speaker 2: like over there?
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  Speaker 4: We sure do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like this is how you make your path back. Or, or, or,
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  Speaker 3: somebody start playing Eye of the Tiger or whatever the
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: name of the song is, the Biggie sample for victory,
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  Speaker 3: and prepare yourself for.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: That first game against the Heat. Because you got to
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: come out there and spill off on that motherfucker as
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  Speaker 2: soon as you see him out there. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But the plan that's going to make you the most money...
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  Speaker 2: Three chords. Three chords and a dream.
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  Speaker 3: All right, the other basketball story that actually isn't from
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  Speaker 3: Summer League is kind of wild that Victor Wimbayama signed
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  Speaker 3: his extension. Five years, $ 252 million. It's a lot of money,
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: but it's $ 50 million less than he could have signed for. Now,
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  Speaker 3: It's safe to assume that this is about the NBA
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  Speaker 3: in their apron situation and creating a situation where these
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: other cats can get their money or can get some
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: money and they can hold the team together.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: He can do whatever he wants with his money, right?
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  Speaker 3: And maybe this makes him the nicest guy in the
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  Speaker 3: world because I feel like what he did was, and
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: someone could correct me if I'm wrong here, I feel
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  Speaker 3: like he made the sacrifice so that nobody else would
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  Speaker 3: have to sacrifice.
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  Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: So since Victor do that to get his money, nobody
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  Speaker 3: else has to do that in order to save their money.
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  Speaker 3: I would not recommend setting that precedent, right? Now, to
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  Speaker 3: be fair to him, and Ryan, I think this is
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  Speaker 3: a big part of it. It's a little different when
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  Speaker 3: you do this, and it's about hypothetical personnel moves that
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  Speaker 3: you'll be making. We know the guys that they need
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  Speaker 3: to give the money to.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: We saw them out there, right? It's Dillon Harper. It's Castle.
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  Speaker 4: Who are all going to be coming up with a
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  Speaker 4: very similar extension in the next year or two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, or somewhere in there, right?
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  Speaker 3: So I don't think he winds up in the situation
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  Speaker 3: like Dirk Nowitzki. Where Dirk was just out here putting
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  Speaker 3: all these kids through private school just so they could go, like,
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  Speaker 3: win 40 games.
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Like, they ain't never made no good decisions with Dirk's
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  Speaker 3: money that he kept.
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  Speaker 2: Giving back to them year after year.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it turns out that Mark Cuban might not have
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  Speaker 4: been the best basketball mind.
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  Speaker 1: Fair.
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  Speaker 4: If we've learned anything from the way he's given interviews.
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  Speaker 3: Over the last year and a half. But the bottom
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  Speaker 3: line is, if he's going to get his money back,
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  Speaker 3: I need to know where it's going.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Right?
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  Speaker 3: Like, there's some friends that they call you and be like, yo, man,
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  Speaker 3: I need to borrow some money. You don't ask no questions.
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  Speaker 2: You give it to them. Some others would be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: what's this going to? What's this for?
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  Speaker 4: What happened?
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: And so it's interesting because I think the new head
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: of the Players Association.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: This week did a press conference.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: His big thing was about how we got to do
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: something about the second apron. Which does not seem to
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: be good for the players, right?
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: No.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Not for the players that want to stay places.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: I think if you just look at it through a
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: very binary lens of more money, get it wherever you want,
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: but I think that guys, especially if you've got a
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: good little situation with a.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Team, they kind of want to keep that thing together.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: I was talking to somebody from the league who says
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: it feels like what's happened with these things has been
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: an unmitigated success, and the comparison that he made was
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: that Nobody cares about guys changing teams to the NFL
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: every year. And that's a yes and no sort of situation.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: You're correct, but that's just a different game. I prefer
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: the dynasty soccer with the NBA. And I do think
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: that fans don't like the idea that they have to
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: lose their players just because they got too good.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: In the NFL, you don't get nearly as much of
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: that feeling.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Like in the NFL, when a guy leaves the team,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: normally it's because the team wants the guy to leave.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: And also, in the NFL, like, lots of players leave,
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: but the top five or six players in a dynasty
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: don't normally leave.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: That is correct.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: Right, like, you know, like, the back end of the
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: roster changes, but the face of the franchise is, if
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: you were on a sustained run, those guys are often there.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're looking at things happening with the number two
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: and the number three guys on the team.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that doesn't quite feel as good. And so.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: The Jalen Brunson thing, I think, has led to the
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: idea of the charm of, hey, I'll give back a
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: little bit of money so that we can make these
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: big moves. But remember, Jalen Brunson was negotiating in a
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: situation with a team.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: That gave his daddy a job.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: The general manager, who was his daddy's agent, and his agent,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: who is the general manager's son. That's very my seeds,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: marry his seeds, marry his seeds. That's how we keep
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Wu-Tang money all up in the family.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: That's what they were doing.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: By the way, that is exactly how Leon Rose described
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: it when they got together to talk about that. That's
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: how we keep Wu-Tang money all up in the family.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: That's what he said.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I promise you. Look it up. It's law.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: But anyway, I will never like, I do not like
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: ever that it's this guy's job or they feel the
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: obligation to do the job of the general manager. That
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: they feel the obligation to figure out how to get
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: this done. But to be fair, I don't know necessarily
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: how the general managers, unless you're Sam Presti and you
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: just got a zillion draft picks that allow you to
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: figure it out.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know what else there.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Is, but If somehow... So, okay. So this is actually
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: an interesting progression with the agent.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: With the union, that is. That the union has typically
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: been a middle-class players union, right? It's always been a.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Like mid-tier level guy who's in charge. And the CBAs
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: have always been.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: CJ McCollum. No, no, no, no.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Not even him. That's a little too high up. That's
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: a little too high up. Derek Fisher's a better example.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: Okay, got it. That makes sense.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: But yeah, but it's just a run of guys. Like
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: the CBAs have been good to the middle class of
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: the NBA. And then we saw, I think it was
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: the 2011 lockout. That's when we saw the stars come back.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: That's Chris Paul being in charge. And the stars started
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: to get some things to take care of them better.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: on the top end of this because that's the thing
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: about sports union stuff is and there could be a
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: wide range of what everybody's looking for in coming out
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: of this right so then yeah cj mccollum is a
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: little bit more toward that obviously than the chris paul
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: example but this has been a very good union to
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: pretty good players because that's the max contract is great
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: for pretty good players because since you can't give all
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: the money to the excellent players the pretty good players
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Get to get a chunk.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Right. The like 15th to 30th best player in the
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: NBA have it.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Probably have the best deal in the NBA.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Because there's money left over and that money comes down
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: to them. And what we did see for a while
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: and why they had to change these things up was
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: starting with the decision. We did see some guys start
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: being willing to give up a little money to make
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: something happen because the NBA's whole thing was, we'll just
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: money with you. Like, that's how we'll get the guys
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: to stay on teams. We're just going to money whip you.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Now they're like, we don't really care if you stay
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: on teams. How about that?
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: When you think about it, it's a really weird play.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: In the end, there used to be all these things
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: with the CBA to let you go over to keep
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: your own players, right? All the things that you can
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: do to keep your own players, to give you the
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: advantage and your ability to keep your own players so
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: they wouldn't go anywhere else. Now the game has changed
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: because these guys don't even wait till free agency anymore.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: They sign the deals early and then they force a trade, right?
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Which has now led to this evolution of the game
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: where they're like, okay, well, we're just going to have
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: to just keep moving guys around.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: How about that?
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: It's just going to be like this game of musical chairs, basically,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: to get the guys out. But what it should never
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: be is cats got to feel like they should give
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: up bread.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Especially in their first big contract, right? Like this is
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: not like, I mean, right.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: And to be clear, he took what would have been
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: the max. This is Victor. He took what would have
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: been the max.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Had he not been defensive player of the year, because
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: that entitled him to the 30% max, the Derrick Rose max,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: as opposed to the 25% max. He just took the 25%.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: But the 30% max is created for players like Victor Wimminyama.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: You have to earn it.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: Right, exactly.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: They put a whole provision in on purpose.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: It's why it's called the Derrick Rose rule, right?
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: It's put in specifically. I think Derrick Rose was the
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: first guy to get it. That's why it became him.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: But it's like, it's put there specifically for guys like
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: you to be able to cash in. And I'm sorry,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: a world where guys do that is the greatest thing
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: to ever happen to the bosses. The outright greatest thing
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: to ever happen to the bosses. And that kind of stinks, right?
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: So anybody else that's out there, I'm just telling you
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: right now, you don't have to.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Do this shit.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: If you want to, It's your world. But, like, you
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: don't have to do that. I don't know if you've
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: ever seen Chappelle's got a bit he does where he
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: talks about when he walked away from the Comedy Central money.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: And he said, you know, I didn't get paid the
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: $ 50 million. But I did get paid, I think we'll
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: call it, let's just say the number was, like, closer
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: to $ 10 million.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: And he's like, look, the difference between $ 50 million and
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: $ 10 million isn't that big in applications.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: You still go to the same places with $ 10 million
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: that you will with $ 50 million. You still hang out
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: with the same people. You can still do all these same.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Things, da, da, da.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: And he says, in the end, the difference between $ 50
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: million and $ 10 million is a mere $ 40 million. And
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: however you hear that, that is real.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Like I remember we were talking about Buddy Joel, about
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: the idea of the boy of these guys boycotting Southern schools.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: He's like, we're not asking for a big sacrifice.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Just take five million dollars instead of six.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: What the fuck are you talking about? We're not having
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: a 20 percent raise. You know, not cussing at you, Joel,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: but that's a million dollars. Yeah, that's a bet. That's
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: a big trade. Yeah, that's a big trade.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: And now what's the difference between having two hundred fifty
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: million dollars and three hundred million dollars? Oh, meditating Buddhist-ass Victor. Honestly,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: I see him as being the guy that doesn't see
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: the difference. I see the difference. You know why I
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: see the difference? It's not even the difference about what
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: goes in my pocket. It's about what comes out of
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: your pocket. Show me that respect. Now, maybe he feels
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: he's already received all that respect. Maybe he's willing to,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: he gets so much respect, he can give some of
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: his respect to.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: These other guys on the team. I'm not sure.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: I'm just telling Victor, when dudes start running up on
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: you in the locker room and asking to borrow money
• 24:26
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• 24:30
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• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Thursday night for FanDuel. AJ Devonsa taking on Darren Peterson.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: You were at that game. What were your thoughts?
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I think we need to figure out how to use
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: this boy.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: They was in there dueling off. You know what I'm saying?
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: The boys dueling off in front of everybody. So I
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: was there for that game. It was very interesting. And
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: the arena was heavily invested because, you know, especially those
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: of us on the East, we don't think too much about.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: The geography of it. But Utah, very close.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Like, I went to the Grand Canyon while I was
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: out there.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: You can go there from Utah also. I didn't realize that.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: You can go from Vegas, you can go from Phoenix,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: you can go from Utah. I didn't realize that.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's multiple sides of the Grand Canyon. It's
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: a big thing.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: But either way, the proximity is that it's close enough.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Oh, not yet.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: So what you had was on one side, the BYU guy.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: On the other side, the Utah Jazz. So, like, Utah
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: was in the house.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: For that game. Those boys are going to be all-stars. Very,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: very close. very soon.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: And they were both, by the way, very heavily invested
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: in that game.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: They don't like each other.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: It does. They do not want it.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: The thing you got to remember is from talking to
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: guys like around the circuit, Peterson was seen by a
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: lot of people as absolutely that guy. Like I said,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, there, there are more people, the people who
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: think the Bansa is better than Peterson are not nearly
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: as dismissive as the people who think Peterson is better than.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: The Bansa, you know, like it's really there. Um, Peterson
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: is that guy.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: The only thing I wondered about Peterson from watching how
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: he's being guarded, again, it's summer league basketball, which is weird,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: but those guys are getting really physical with him and
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: he didn't seem quite as equipped to handle it, which
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: seems a little strange because he's got an NBA body,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: so to speak. DeBansa, 6'9, coming downhill, dog. There's something
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: to that. He's coming to yam on people, everything else.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: I will say one last thing, and I think it's
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: important just for people to know. I talked to somebody
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: who's affiliated with the Kansas program. And I asked the
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: read on Peterson and the guy couldn't have been more unequivocal.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: He said, Kansas did him a disservice with the narratives
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: that surrounded him. Like disservice was the word that was used.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying whatever the apprehensions may be that you
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: have about Peterson from what happened at Kansas, the people
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: at Kansas don't have those apprehensions.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Throwing it out there.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: That's interesting, especially that, you know, they spent so much
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: time with him over the last few months. All right.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Some more basketball news. The Clippers rafters trades centered around
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: Kawhi Leonard is on hold and will not be completed
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: until the NBA investigation into whether the Clippers circumvented the
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: salary cap is completed. That got announced on Thursday. They
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: silver said they hope to finish this investigation and process
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: in a few weeks. Bo, what are your thoughts?
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Um, If it takes weeks, they're being ridiculous. Like, I don't... Wow,
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: that seems crazy to me, if it would take weeks.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: I will tell you this, though.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: If I'm talking to people, you know, in the league
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: office there, nobody knows.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: This one is wrapped up tight. It seems to be.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: A very need-to-know situation on what's going on with this investigation.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: From the conversations I was having while I was around there,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: the Clippers are unequivocal. They didn't do anything wrong. They firmly, firmly,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: firmly are riding out the idea they didn't do anything wrong.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: If you saw the union statement about it, they are unequivocal.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Kawhi didn't do anything wrong. I have no idea if
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: that is true, but ordinarily there's a level of equivocation
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: that you see from guilty parties that hasn't come from anybody.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: We've seen what bombers had to say about this. That's
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: just for whatever it's worth. Nobody seems to think that
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: trade is actually going to be on hold.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: For whatever it's worth. But I can't believe this is
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: still going on, right?
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: It's gone on so long that people are now more
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: loudly saying, in public at least, do we care? You know,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: I think that's the big question, that in the end,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's going to be a satisfying ending
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: to this for anybody. I think that if the league
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: says nothing happened, there will be many people who find
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: it to be conspiratorial.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Um.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: I think if they say something happened and the punishment
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: is not heavy, then people are going to say or
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: a certain segment of people will say you're just defending
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Steve Ballmer. If they do say something happened and the
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: penalty is harsh, those of us with good sense are
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: going to say, who cares?
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Right. Like in the end, deep down.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: They paid their max guy a little extra money. That
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: is what leads me to believe, by the way, that
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: nothing happened because I've never understood what the incentives.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Were for the Clippers to do all this.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: To pay extra money to somebody that nobody else could
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: pay as much money as they did.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: It's not a bidding war.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: That's the part that nobody can explain to me. Like
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: when Joe Smith, the legendary cap circumvention situation, and also
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: the Clippers tried it with DeAndre Jordan, but that period,
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Joe Smith and DeAndre Jordan, those are the guys that
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: you circumvent the cap for.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: And I know that sounds crazy. You're like, those guys
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: aren't even that good. Yes, exactly.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: You get those guys to take a little bit, you
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: get those guys to take less money for the cap
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: and then you figure out Because.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Your max guys get a max slot and they get
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: a max slot.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: This is, yes, this is exactly what we're saying, right?
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: You tell that guy, come here for a little bit extra,
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: a little bit, don't worry, we got you, right? Because
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: somebody else is offering them more. Nobody else is offering
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: more for a guy that badly wanted to play in
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Southern California.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Like that's my only thing, right?
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: When it really comes down to the end, I think
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: it was a very interesting story when it came out
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: and Pablo's presentation of it caught a lot of attention.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: but I do think as more time passed that more
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: people were kind of like, yeah, I mean, I.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Guess, right?
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Like this, I don't think this is the corruption that's
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: really driving anybody crazy, but I am intrigued by the
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: fact that the accused parties are so unequivocal in saying
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: we have nothing to hide.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: There's no, they're there.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Um, But I don't know what Adam can or can't
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: tell the law firm that's in it. But there's no
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: reason for this to continue. And especially if it's like
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: holding up this trade. I think it was Shams that
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: reported that when the Clippers were playing in the summer
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: league games, the guys they got in the trade were sitting.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: On the Clippers bench. Right.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: And they still are.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Nobody thinks this trade is getting held up.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, Kawhi was in Toronto for.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they did for the Kyle Lowry thing.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: But that was before the word had gotten out. Right.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: That the trade was on hold.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: But the long and the short is nobody thinks this
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: trade is going to get held up. which is an
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: indicator to me that nobody thinks anything.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Big is going to happen as a result of this.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: We're going to see, right?
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: But the NBA, it's time to call it.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: It's time to street lights on time to come home.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: All right. You talked about this a couple of times,
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: but the McGregor fight was in Vegas the week and
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: you were there and it didn't last very long. Conor
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: McGregor made it about one minute until having to leave
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: with an apparent knee injury. His first fight in over
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: five years. Doesn't make it over two minutes against Max Holloway. Bo,
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: is this the last we see of Conor McGregor?
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, one would hope.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: But if he comes back and say he gonna fight,
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: you think people will watch? Because I think they would.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Question number two, what his money looking like? Like, I
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: don't know how this goes for the MMA guys versus the.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Boxers, but when you need a little money.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Come on, ding, and throw hands one more time. By
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: the way, I don't... Ryan, you ever been in Vegas
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: for a fight weekend?
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: I have not.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I have been in Vegas for a couple
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: of fight weekends, but never for the fight.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I was just there. And so you just get the vibes.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: On the floor in all the casinos of what happened
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: because you're not even really paying attention. And the fight
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: goes on early in the evening West Coast time because
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: of East Coast television. So it'll be like 9 o'clock,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: 10 o'clock, whatever.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: And they all get out of there.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you get out of concert and they all get
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: out of there. So like, for example, I was there
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: once when Canelo lost a fight. and buddy it was
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: some unpleasant mexicans walking around there some sad some mad
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: i didn't want to i didn't want to get in
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: the way of any of them but i'm just walking
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: around and the mcgregorites i just they just look i
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: don't know not plus like it was very difficult to
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: get what the energy was only to find out that
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: they do they kicked his knee off that's an old
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: man injury if it has ever ever been an old
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: man injury but i bet he still got his check.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: Um Speaking of MMA and boxers, I think we're going
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: to see him box again against someone else who might
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: need some money pretty soon.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, here's my question. Why is it not against
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Jake Paul?
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know if Jake Paul fights white people, but
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: that seems to be the most obvious fight.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: The one time he fought a white person, he lost.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Right, right.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. That's right. Tyson Fury's brother.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: But I mean, I think this makes sense, right? Like
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: they're both amateur boxers.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: McGregor will be a, will be a, I mean, if Tyson,
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: obviously Conor McGregor was never Mike Tyson, but Mike Tyson
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: is still a draw at over six.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: I completely forgot that happened.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: It happened multiple times.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I completely forgot that Jake Paul fought Mai Tais. Wow.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: What is this world?
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Where are we?
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: All right, Bo. A couple of voicemails. We had a
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: lot of people with Jalen Brown thoughts. Let's start there.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing about Jalen Brown. I mean, we have
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: to quiet the nonsense around this tree.
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: When you're Scottie Pippen, but you think you're MJ, you
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: got to go.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: And that's that.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: I have to say, when you put it in those terms,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: I was going to throw something out there about Jalen
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Brown from when I was there. I saw some of
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: these quotes from these interviews that Jalen Brown has been doing,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: and I don't want to do that right now.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: I will just say this very briefly. He is sounding
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: very familiar to me in a lot of these interviews.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: And he sounds very familiar because I have taught college
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: freshmen before. And I don't mean that as an insult,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: but like there's that energy, there's that kind of curiosity.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: He's got these opinions, but they clearly haven't been tested yet.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Right like he has more books than people who went
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: to his high school but not more books than people
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: he's around.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Now oh yeah yeah you know i was thinking about
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: the book reading part right is that these he has
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: a lot of thoughts that have not been approached with
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: rigor so like his whole thing about um the agent
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: model is broken because guys go broke i was like
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: that's not how that works like that's not those guys
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: job you don't okay so now you don't have an
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: agent is that going to stop you from going broke
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: right like that doesn't like Again, these are things that
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: make sense on their face, and then they just don't
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: hold up to but so many questions. And that's what
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: I've been seeing in him is like, oh, okay, I
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: get it. It's not like there's nothing there, but that's
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: how it is when you teach college freshmen, right? You
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: come in and you got all these ideas, and then
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: the professor sons you, and then you get better and
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: it builds you back.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Up, right?
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: And I just don't think he's been in that circumstance,
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: but that's the discussion. The thing I wanted to bring
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: up about him that I did think was interesting and
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: important to point out is that and for me on
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: my end, because I think some people misunderstand me. I
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: think his heart is in the right place on all
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: of these things. I think what he wants and I
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: think I think he has identified the way I see things.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: He is properly identified for the most part. Who are
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: the good guys and who are the bad guys, right?
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: I think he has identified the causes that matter the most.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's always as equipped in conversation, but
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: I do think it's important to note that I would
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: say that he and I are on the same side,
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: and I don't want to be but so mean towards
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: somebody that's on a different side. And so I was
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: talking to somebody who's around the Celtics, a couple of Celtics,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: and he made a very good point that I hadn't
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: thought about.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: And he was like, let me tell you this.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: He's like black Boston is going to really miss Jalen Brown,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: like that he went out of his way to develop
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: a relationship with the black population of Boston in a
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: way that. I don't want to say is unprecedented because
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: that's too far, but it's not a guarantee.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: From members of the Celtics, right? And so he's their guy.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: So when it comes around next year and he's going
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: to Boston Garden and he's getting booed and people are
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: talking about, oh, but you know how Boston feels, da-da-da, that's.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Some of Boston, right?
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Like, I got into an argument on the internet many
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: years ago with a guy, and if you know anything,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: you'll know who I'm talking about, but don't be messy.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: And I felt like we had a great misunderstanding. It
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: just got to be like, oh, man, this is one
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: of these cats that really rides for Boston and really
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: loves Boston, right?
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: And I get it.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: And I realized what the issue was. And it's, he's
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: a black dude from Boston and they feel very erased.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: They're like, when people talk about Boston and who lives there,
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: you know, who, I mean, I don't have to tell
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: you the image that you get in your head. There
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: are a lot of black people in Boston. It's one
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: of those cities though, where you don't meet black Bostonians
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: outside of Boston.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of cities like that Cleveland. Like how
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: often do you meet people from Cleveland outside of Cleveland?
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: That's fair.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: You know what it means?
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: And so, That dude, I think that his anger was misdirected,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: but I understood the source of his anger was the
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: idea that we are here and you just keep acting
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: like everybody in Boston sounds like that. Even though y'all
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: talk like them too. But still, I got where he
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: was coming from on that. But anyway, this would be
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: an example of why somebody like that would wind up
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: being frustrated because there is a whole section of Boston
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: that I guarantee is going to be very sad to
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: see Jalen Brown go. but they're not going to be
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: the ones booing his black ass to smithereens when the
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Sixers come back to the garden.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: We had some more Jalen Brown thoughts.
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: What's up, Bobani?
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: What's up, Brian? This is Jordan and Charlotte.
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: I just listened to the pod with Burnham and Maxwell,
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: and I got to say, I really enjoyed it. You
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: definitely got to bring him back on as a guest,
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: but I do have to say Jalen Brown and his
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: top five ridiculous, what I call Vern ridiculous to his face.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: Absolutely not.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: But, That's ridiculous.
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: Anyway, that's not why I called. I counted 57 fucks, motherfuckers,
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: motherfuckers from Vern, and I just wanted to ask, after
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: a call like that, after a recording like that, do
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: you got to call mom and warn her before she listens? Anyway,
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: I appreciate what you do. I've been a long-time listener
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: and look forward to your continued success. Appreciate it.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Thanks.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Number one, that number is lower than I expected.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: You have to remember that's more than one a minute.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: And yet and still, it is lower than I expected.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: I actually probably should have warned her. I forgot to.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I talked to her when I was in Vegas, so
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: we were talking about some other stuff. I did not
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: warn her.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: First of all, Vernon sent an apology on Twitter. And
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: my mother sent me a text that said, Vernon Maxwell
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: needs to expand his vocabulary.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I showed her Vernon's apology, and she said, I accept.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: I love how immediately everyone was like, oh, man, Bo's
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: mom's not going to like this.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: She has absolutely become like the silent partner of this operation.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Everybody knows she's there. Everybody understands.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: As she should be. All right. Here's another one. Hey, Bomani.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: This is Edmund in Phoenix listening to the Danny Parkins
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: podcast and him reading from his suburban newspaper. I thought
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: of like, you know, some stories. What was the dumbest
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: thing ever? you've got the cops called on you for.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: So this is what happened to me and my brother.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: My grandmother lived in a retirement community called Saddle Bronc
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: in Tucson, Arizona. It was the worst, most boring place
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: in the world, but that's a separate story. Anyway, my
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: brother and I get hired to do some yard work
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: for one of her neighbors, you know, make a couple
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: bucks when we're in high school. Anyway, we're in her
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: front yard and we're trimming down grapefruit and and collecting
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: the grapefruit so that we could either, you know, donate
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: it or get rid of it or something. We finished
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: the job. My brother and I are walking back to
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: my grandmother's house from her neighbor's house, and this woman cop,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: you know, for this retirement community, rolls up on us
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: in a golf cart, and, like, she's in the movie Heat.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: She thinks that we are pretty much, you know, like,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: we need to get on the ground, you know, put
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: our hands behind our back, And she rolls up on
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: us and she says, we got a report from a
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: neighbor that there were two high schoolers stealing grapefruit from
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: another person's yard. Anyway, we told them what happened. We
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: had to walk the security guard back to the neighbor
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: and knock on the door, tell them that we.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Were working for them.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: And, like, you know, she had to, like, check it out.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: But anyway, we got the retirement community cops called on
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: us for trimming grapefruit in someone's yard. Anyway, love the show,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: love Danny Parkins reading out his newsletter or his newspaper.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Hey, and Ryan, that's what they did to Edmund.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: Yes. Do you think the cops from Danny's neighborhood retire
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: and go become retirement cops in this place in Scottsdale?
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: That's a very good question, but I'd say it is,
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: but that was a reminder of, and it's very important, man,
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: old people ain't got no time to be thinking about this.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Old people ain't giving you no chance.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: None. I'll just call the cops. I paid a lot
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: of taxes for those.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: All right, here's our last one.
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: What's up, Bo? What's up, man?
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Love the show.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: Long time listener, first time caller. I wanted to call
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: about the favorite topic of the voicemail line. So back
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: in 2014, I changed jobs and I started doing some
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: district operations work. Originally, I was supposed to be supporting
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: one district manager in one district a couple days before
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: I started. My direct manager calls me. He's like, hey,
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: you're actually going to be supporting two districts and two
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: district managers. And so I asked him, did my predecessor leave?
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: And he says, no.
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: And then he says her name and just says she's
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: going to be moving to a different district, but she's
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: still going to train. So I'm like, OK, cool. First day,
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: I'm supposed to go meet with the second district manager
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: because I hadn't met her yet. It's in a black
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: part of Birmingham. Everyone in the office that I see
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: is a black person. And so based on the name
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: I got, this is living up to my expectations. And
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: so after we're finishing doing the paperwork, me and the
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: district manager are kind of just doing a small little
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: get-to-know-you chat, and she apologizes for springing it on me
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: last minute and says that after she heard about my interview,
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: she felt that I would be a better fit for
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: her team personality-wise. Now, that probably should have been a
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: clue as to what I was about to walk into,
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: but I didn't think anything of it. So we go
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: around the corner. to where my office is going to
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: be that I'm going to be splitting with my predecessor
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: for the time being. And when I walk in, I
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: see this older white lady in her late 40s. And
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: she looks like she could have stepped right out of
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: that old soap opera Dallas. And she stands up and
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: extends her hand and says, hi, I'm Jaquetta in the
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: thickest Alabama accent I've ever heard. And it took everything
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: in me not to look over at the district manager
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: and be like, are you serious? But after five minutes
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: with her, I understood why I was a better personality fit.
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: If you know, you know. But as a bonus, I've
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: known two white Andres in my life. The first I
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: used to work with, he was late 40s. This is
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: like 2011. He went by Andy, one of my current
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: friends who's in his 30s. He goes by Andre. He's
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: a white Andre. And I told him that I was
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: going to make this call. And if you guys picked it,
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: I was going to play it for him. So if
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: y'all do, he's probably going to laugh. Love the show.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: He tried to go with Andy, huh?
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: He tried to go with Andy.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: So the thing about white Andre also is white Andre
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: can be French, right?
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: I have a cousin who's white Andre, and that's where
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: I'm from.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: He's not a direct homie, but shout out to homie
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Cedric at the hat shop in New Orleans.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: He is Cedric.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: And honestly, I didn't realize it's Meyers Hat Shop down
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: there in the French Quarter.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Or not in the French Quarter. It's right on St.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Charles.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: But I didn't realize that Cedric was like a member
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: of the family. I thought he just worked there because
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: his name was Cedric.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: But, you know, we got that.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: We throw that French out there. And then it's like, oh, OK,
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: anything is possible. I wonder if the people in France
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: like realize that me and my folks decided to take
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: on their names like that.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: Probably wasn't what they had in mind, but, you know.
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