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Inside The OIG Interview: The Testimony Of The Electrical Engineer From MCC (Part 8) (4/26/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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  where we left off with the interview given by the
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  electrical engineer to the OIG investigators. Question Okay, and as
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  far as that that is the one and only camera,
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  that one that was up by ten South that was working. Answer, Yes,
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  that was working. Question all right? Then nothing else, nothing
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  else that was ever working? Answer on there were other
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  ones in the sally Port, but nothing as far as
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  the shoe, that was the only one in the shoe
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  question all right, So as far as that camera though,
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  that was showing people who was going in and out
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  of the shoe? Was that working? Answer on the ninth
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  Sally I'm not too sure question Okay, answer that I'm
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  not too sure about. Question. You just said it was working.
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  Answer I'm not I'm not too sure if it was
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  working or recording. The Sally camera was recording? Question Yeah,
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  that's what I was saying. The difference between working and
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  recording to him is if it's actually a live feed.
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  Answer yeah, I can't tell you that. It gets confusing.
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  Question But all right, and again you believe that, sorry,
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  start over, you believe that Epstein took his own life.
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  Answer yes, based on the agent's question, you said you
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  were doing feeding. Did you do feeding on el tier
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  after the tier that Epstein was found in? Answer? I
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  probably did, yeah, because I don't really I probably did.
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  Question how long were you up there for? Answer? I
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  don't know. Question do you recall if his cell was
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  secured or if it was left open? Answer? Initially it
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  was probably left open. Question for how long? Answer? I
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  don't know. I'm not too sure. But then I think
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  when I came back to feed, because we lock all
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  the cells, it's probably locked when I started doing the feeding.
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  Question but there were CEOs going in and out of
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  their answer. No, there's no reason to go inside of
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  a cell, and everybody knows, like after a suicide, it's
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  a crime scene, so usually you just stay away from
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  the cell. Question do you recall approximately when you came
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  and they secured it as a crime scene? Answer I'm
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  not too sure when that happened. Question but it wasn't
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  secured when you left. Answer when when I went down
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  there for the body alarm, it wasn't secure. I mean
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  when I took him down to medical doing chess compressions,
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  it wasn't secured. But when I came back upstairs, it
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  was secured. The door was locked, I believe. Question and
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  I know that I was honing in on or addacted.
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  But what about Noel? Did you see Noel near the
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  officer's station at all? Answer? I believe she received a
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  phone call or somebody wanted to see what was going on,
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  ask them like what happened? Or he gets cut off
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  by the investigator. Did you see her manipulating any files
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  or did with any paperwork? Answer I don't believe so,
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  question no. All right, And then going back to our
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  initial conversation, you said that you put in a work
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  order for Signet. Was that on the ninth Answer probably before? Yeah.
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  Question no, that would have been August ninth, the day
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  before Epstein was found. Answer yeah, I was just troubleshooting
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  with them. I was on the phone with them. It's
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  not really a work order, just you know, call them up, Hey,
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  this is what's going on. What should we do? Question okay,
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  So there would be no paperwork showing. Answer from Signet.
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  They would have the paperwork. Question so they would show
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  that you called answer yes, and that you said that
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  these things were down. Answer yes, and I was having problems.
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  Question and you have any of those files? Answer? No,
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  they have their own files that they keep. Question just
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  they would be able to like he gets cut off. Yeah,
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  and I was on since that. I was pretty much
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  on the phone with them for like a week after that,
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  so they would have the records of what I called
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  or whatever happened. Question all right, and then as far
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  as you know, we're going way to the beginning. You
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  said that you were did you you were interviewed by
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  the FBI? You said on the tenth You were also
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  interviewed by them after the tenth of August. Answer, because
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  I was a subject matter expert as far as the
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  cameras go. So they want to know, like, how can
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  you find video? If you could find video, what can
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  I do? And then they came in the next day
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  and they tried to as soon as I found the video.
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  That's the real video they wanted because they wanted to
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  make sure they had something in it, because they were
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  pretty mad that there was no video at all. And
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  I found that video because I wasn't sure that was
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  on the recorders or what wasn't on the recorders at
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  that point. Question, And that's the tenth South video. Answer yes.
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  Question and do you know so if that video ever
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  was enhanced to be able to see it more clearly? Answer,
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  I have no idea if they did or did not.
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  Question But you did not answer no, I did not
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  do that. Question do you even have that ability to
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  do that? Answer? Not without software? We have no not
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  going to happen. Question you mentioned that maybe I'm mistaken.
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  You mentioned that there was a work order created prior
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  to the ninth for the camera. Answer Yeah, there were
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  a few work orders that the recorders were going down
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  or failing, we have problems. Question when were those created? Answer?
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  Maybe a year before or six months before. It was
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  just a constant thing as far as the camera is
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  not working, because we was trying to get upgraded. We
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  were trying to get money spent. So we have to
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  create anytime there's a problem, I have to create a
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  work order to tell like the regional office like there's
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  a problem, but it's a work order over ten thousand,
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  so they have to put money aside to do the
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  work like. It's not a quick fix to fix the recorders.
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  Question and these recorders were maintained in house or only
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  by signette? Answer the work order we have or maintained
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  here in house. Question who would have access to that?
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  Answer the facility manager. Anybody in facilities pretty much would
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  have access to it. But really facility manager. Question on
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  August ninth, when you saw that the system was down,
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  has it gone down just like that before? Answer? Yeah.
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  Question how long did it take you to fix it? Answer?
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  Sometimes maybe a day, maybe two days, maybe a couple
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  of days. And the thing, and I have to stress
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  this also is just because I saw it down. Because
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  I don't check it every day. I don't know if
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  it was down for a week, a month. You know,
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  it's not one of those things that you check all
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  the time. But I would since we're having problems more readily,
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  I would always check like once a week to make
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  sure that it was working. But before it was not like, Okay,
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  I've got to get up there and check it out
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  because it was happening. Question That was my next question.
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  Did you just happen to walk in there one day? Answer?
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  I already knew we were having issues, and I think
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  I got the hard drives out because I was going
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  to take them up there and see what was going on.
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  Question Now, based on the fact that this happened before, right,
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  was that same exact situation, the same exact drives. Answer?
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  I think it switched. It could have been recorder one
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  and then a recorder two. I don't think it was
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  just the same recorder all the time, because one recorder
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  was actually the whole motherboard have to get replaced. And
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  that was again I think that was a recorder too.
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  And before drives would go out on one or two,
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  so it was just random. They were old. They just
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  needed to get replaced. Question and at that point you
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  knew that the drives were not recording? Answer? Yeah, Question
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  were any actions taken to make sure that this does
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  not happen in the future, that at least something would
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  be recorded? Answer yes, exactly that question what acts were taken? Answer? Now,
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  we have redundant drives, so if one drive fails, you
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  always have a backup. No, No, I'm talking about prior
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  to the ninth Oh, prior to the ninth No, there
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  was really nothing. They just knew we had problems. We
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  had ordered the new system. We were online to get
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  it installed, but we were just not lucky to get
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  it installed. Question and the record would show that there
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  was an order answer yeah, and that we have the
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  shipping stuff for the system. Actually it was here, it
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  was in the building. Question you just didn't get it
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  installed yet? Answer? Didn't get it installed. It got installed
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  a couple on What happened on the ninth, tenth or eleventh,
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  that's when the new system got installed. Question Yeah, the
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  other thing. We've already asked you this, but I just
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  want to make sure. So the title of your supervisor
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  did you say? Facilities manager? Answer? Yeah? Question and how
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  would we again figure out who that was at the time? Answer?
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  I don't know. You would just have to ask. I'm
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  not too sure who the facility managers was. Question but
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  you don't even know how indiscernible. Answer I think it
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  was redacted. But I'm not too sure because he was
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  maybe acting at the time, but I don't think that
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  he had the position yet. Question Is he a facilities
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  manager now? Answer? Now, yes he is. Question And again,
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  you know who notified whoever was the facilities manager at
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  the time? Answer or my general foreman. Usually it's one
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  of the two. I usually notified them both. Question So
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  the general manager or general foreman? Answer and general foreman. Yeah,
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  I have to notify somebody. I can't just walk out
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  of the building and not say anything. Question and you
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  said you're positive you definitely made those notifications. Answer, Yeah,
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  I had to because I was coming back the next
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  day to work. Question you said it was the general foreman.
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  Answer yes, question and you know he gets cut off
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  by the engineer. But I don't even think we had
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  a general foreman. I'm not too sure it was two
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  years ago. I'm not even sure if we had a
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  general foreman. Question and being though that this was such
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  a big deal and that these cameras were such a
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  big part of it, did you ever learn if either
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  of those people ever passed the information up? Answer? No question.
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  So no, that was never spoken of. Answer, no question,
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  And you guys didn't you never had the conversation with
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  those supervisors after the fact. Answer did we have a
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  conversation after I never really asked if if it got
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  I'm pretty sure everybody knew it wasn't working because I
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  came back the next day. Question, So did they ever?
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  Did anyone ever say anything to you about, like, Hey,
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  why didn't you tell me? Answer? No, I don't get
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  that no question, no answer. No, I'm not going to
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  get that question all right, answer because I would have
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  told somebody I'm not going to leave because I can
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  from another jail. I can't just leave it not say anything.
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  Question So like SIS or the captain never came up
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  to you and said, hey, what happened? Why didn't you
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  let anybody know? Answer? No questions? So okay, answer because
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  it was a known problem that the recorders were going down,
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  so I'd have to say, hey, this is what's going on.
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  Question gotcha? Answer, I'm trying to fix it. I'll be
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  back tomorrow. Question Okay, I think that's all I've got
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  the other investigator, that's all I have. Is there anything
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  else you think that we should have asked you that
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  we didn't ask? Answer? It's an investigation. I just hope
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  this never happens again. I mean, I was comfortable because
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  I came from another institution. I knew what I was
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  doing as far as the cameras and recorders, and I
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  know that all the stuff works. But I just with
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  the Bureau would be more proactive as far as maintenance
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  and buying new stuff. Like I know now that they're
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  like more on top of everything. But it's not really
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  it's not good question, all right, answer, that's just my
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  only thing. Question so still to date? Answer, Yeah, they
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  still got to do a lot of improvements. Question Okay,
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  so you don't believe it's actually been rectified. There still
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  needs a lot of work. Answer, Oh, yeah, I've been
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  to other institutions. There's a lot of camera work that
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  needs to get done. Question so just to keep up
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  to date with other institutions. Answer, no, this institution's fine.
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  I've done a lot of overtime here. Question Oh oh sure,
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  I thought that's what you were saying. I thought you
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  meant mcc is not up to speed. Answer No, we're
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  up to speed. We're ahead of the curve. We got
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  IP cameras pretty much everywhere. But I'm just saying overall,
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  I just wish the Bureau was more proactive, and like
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  when I came to this institution, for instance, like there
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  was only one camera in a housing unit. When I
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  came in Brooklyn, i was custody, it was cameras all
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  over the place. I went to Indiana and I was
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  a contented out a complex which was a high, medium low.
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  There's a camp, there's a death row, there's cameras everywhere.
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  I come to this jail in New York City and
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  I'm expecting cameras everywhere, and one of the first things
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  was like, oh, we don't have the money for that.
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  We don't have the money for this, We don't have
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  the money for that. And I just kept saying, Hey,
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  you guys got to do something. This is the problem.
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  God forbid, this is what happened. But I just wish
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  there was more proactivity. Like he gets cut off, but
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  right now mcc is up to speed. Answer we're good. Yeah,
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  we're good. We don't have any issues. Question So when
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  you made that statement, you're talking about other facilities. Answer yeah,
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  other facilities in general. I wish the Bureau would invest
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  more money. Question Okay, answer, and training too, Like just
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  getting new equipment, that's not it. Also train the staff
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  because even like when I learned how to do the
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  camera stuff, it was just me over the phone with signet.
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  I never really went to physical training. Hey, redacted, this
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  is the system that you have. Take this drive out,
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  do X, Y and Z. I'm just like I'm on
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  the phone, I'm looking at it. Okay, the light is
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  this color? This is I'm a smart guy. I could
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  figure it out. But at the same time, somebody that's
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  not really savvy, Yeah, they're going to be lost. Question
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  all right, thank you so much for taking your time.
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  I know you just had to leave training, so I
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  really appreciate that. Thank you, mister redacted again. So if
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  there's nothing else, this is Special Agent Redacted. The time
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  is three forty four pm on Thursday July fifteenth, twenty
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  twenty one. I'm turning off the recorder, ending the interview
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  and turning off the recorder. All right, So there is
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  the deposition given by the electrical engineer to go along
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  with the other depositions that we've heard. And folks, we're
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  just getting started. We have a lot of files to
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  get through and a lot of ground to cover, and
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  to do that, we're going to keep eating this elephant,
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  one bite at a time. All the information that goes
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