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- 0:05Elizabeth Holmes whistleblower and investigator React to You Can See Everything, This
- 0:13article is being read by an automated voice generated by Everlet. If
- 0:19there's one takeaway from Nathan Fielder and Lance Oppenheim's new documentary, you
- 0:23can see everything. It's that Elizabeth Holmes is a hard person to
- 0:27understand. By the end of the film, even Fielder is perplexed as
- 0:31to whether she's the greatest liar of a generation or truly delusional.
- 0:35As the film has become a hit, it's brought out a slew
- 0:38of testimonies from those who've interacted with Holmes personally, or have an
- 0:42insider view of her exploits. Perhaps the most knowledgeable person on the
- 0:47Therano scandal is the reporter who broke the story, John Carrew, whose
- 0:52other investigative work was notably portrayed in the Social Reckoning. In a
- 0:57lengthy piece in the New York Times, Cararou recounts how he wasn't
- 1:00allowed to interview Holmes directly, however, given his extensive reporting and subsequent
- 1:05book Bad Blood, he's probably the foremost Holmes expert. He states that
- 1:10Holmes is lying in some of the film's most incredulous moments, including
- 1:14Holmes supposed lack of understanding of the Abbott and Costello, who's on
- 1:18First Routine. Carey Rue describes her reaction as an attempt at casting
- 1:23herself as the neurodivergent entrepreneur who operated on a different wavelength. Another
- 1:29moment that rang untrue for Kararoo was when Holmes breaks down after
- 1:32a photo shoot, claiming she doesn't like the spotlight. Kararoo notes her
- 1:36many public appearances, such as a twenty fourteen TED talk, as evidence
- 1:40to the contrary. He also posted on X that he loved the
- 1:44film, hashtag BestPicture. Another New York Times response piece addresses a quote
- 1:49featured in a Times article in twenty twenty three. According to reporter
- 1:53Amy Chosick, Holmes told her, regarding the Hulu show, the Dropout, they're
- 1:57not playing me. They're playing a character I created. In the film
- 2:01it's used as an example of Holmes inauthenticity. Holmes disputed the quote
- 2:06at the time, stating that she didn't create a character, but rather
- 2:10the created it. Her fiance Billy Evans, a pivotal figure in You
- 2:14Can See Everything, claims that he recorded the exchange and the quote
- 2:17was inaccurate. Chozick rebuts this, recounting that Evans supplied the Times with
- 2:22only an eighty second clip to try to disprove the quote. Chozick
- 2:26also claims that the exchange happened when recorders were turned off, and
- 2:30that she wrote it down in a notebook. Theranos whistleblower Tyler Schultz
- 2:35offers another interesting perspective in an article for the medical journal Stat.
- 2:40When he worked at Theranos, his grandfather, former Secretary of State George
- 2:44Schultz, was on the board of the company, and his relationship with
- 2:48Holmes was friendly enough that she came to family birthday parties. He
- 2:52notes that the Theranos device shown in the film on Holmes's kitchen
- 2:56table was not the same device used by the company, but rather
- 2:59an uncompleted prototype. He goes deep into the distinctions between the two
- 3:04devices, alleging that the version shown is meant to be more impressive
- 3:07to audiences and create more ambiguity. Schultz also points out that the
- 3:12somewhat modest looking beach house was a ruse as well, and that
- 3:16prior to Fielder's arrival, she was living in a much larger estate.
- 3:20It mirrors a deception she made for a New Yorker profile in
- 3:23twenty fourteen, in which she showed off an austere two bedroom condo,
- 3:27while she was actually living in a mansion in Atherton. In another
- 3:31stat article, Matthew Herper, formerly a health reporter at Forbes, recounts when
- 3:35he interviewed Holmes twice on stage. He rattled off a list of
- 3:39deceptive claims Holmes made regarding the capabilities of her technology, and said
- 3:44she made false claims during his interviews. With regard to the film,
- 3:47he called her ability to influence others, including himself, her superpower. He
- 3:53concluded the essay by arguing that giving her attention at this point
- 3:56feeds her manipulative behavior. We see that eerie stare and we are
- 4:00caught up. We even see it happen to Fielder. I wish we
- 4:04could all just not look, he wrote. Some of the key moments
- 4:07in the film revolve around the relaunch of Theranos, with Evans deeply
- 4:11involved in the project. NPR correspondent Bobby Allen shared an article he
- 4:16wrote about the relaunch of Theranos, stating that Evans pushed back on
- 4:19Holmes involvement in the company, whereas in the film she's shown as
- 4:23a pivotal figure. And San Francisco data scientist Armand Domilevsky weighed in
- 4:29on X, noting that the tech jargon used in the film by
- 4:32Holmes and Evans is total gibberish, and that they were play acting
- 4:35as start up founders.