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INTERVIEW: Benny The Butcher On Self Realization, Signing To Def Jam, Police Harassment, New Album + More · The Breakfast Club

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
• 0:02
  Speaker 2: Breakfast Club.
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Morning, everybody in Steve j Envy, Charlamagne the guy. We
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: are the breakfast club. He got some special guest joining
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: us this morning. We got Betty the Butcher, Yes, sir,
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: and you but your daughter with you?
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  Speaker 2: I did, okay, my June June.
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: She in the music too.
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: No, she ain't in the music.
• 0:21
  Speaker 3: Why she might be okay? You know what she don't
• 0:23
  Speaker 3: know yet.
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  Speaker 2: She told me she singing by a week ago. She
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: surprised me with it.
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: Wow, But did she sing for you?
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: She did? How was it she good? I almost cried.
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: I'm like, man, we about to do this all over again,
• 0:33
  Speaker 2: money all over?
• 0:34
  Speaker 3: What made you feel like you wanted to bring you
• 0:36
  Speaker 3: your seed with you?
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  Speaker 2: Man? Just I want her to see to be with me.
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: I'm saying this.
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  Speaker 4: She eighteen, right, so she she lived her whole life
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  Speaker 4: with me and see all of the phases. But she
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  Speaker 4: really she really don't know what I do. You know
• 0:48
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, She really don't know what I do.
• 0:49
  Speaker 4: So I think it's a port for her to see
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  Speaker 4: what I do, for everybody in my family to learn
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  Speaker 4: what I do.
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  Speaker 2: This is where this money come from. This is my plans,
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  Speaker 2: This is my this is my hustling. You know what
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: I mean. Take this the family.
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: You know what it sounds like. It sounds like sometimes
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: your kids think it comes too easy. You get it,
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  Speaker 1: so you have to show them sometimes what it takes
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  Speaker 1: to actually get the money that puts them through school, college,
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  Speaker 1: The jewelry, the braces, the headphones that when you say, Dad,
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: I lost my headphones and you bought me some new ones,
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  Speaker 1: that it just don't come that easy.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: And eventually I want I do want her to take
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  Speaker 4: some part of the business.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like there's a lot of self realization, self
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  Speaker 5: awareness on this album, even with the title Everybody Can't
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  Speaker 5: Go self explanatory title. But when did you personally realize
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  Speaker 5: that everybody couldn't.
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  Speaker 3: Go with you?
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  Speaker 4: I mean I realized that when they were going, when
• 1:37
  Speaker 4: they were with me everywhere, when I was being around
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  Speaker 4: people who I shouldn't have been around, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I had to get to the point where,
• 1:45
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, you saying a word. No,
• 1:47
  Speaker 4: I had to get to the point where I had
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  Speaker 4: to become selfish again, because you had to become selfish
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  Speaker 4: to a point to take it to reach your goals.
• 1:54
  Speaker 4: But I got new goals, so I mean I gotta
• 1:56
  Speaker 4: become selfish again another time?
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: Was it like survivors remorse? Almost because you know when
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: when you first start. Of course, if I would see
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: you out, you out with fifty people, what those fifty
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  Speaker 1: people come fifty problems? You know what I mean? A
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: situation could happen to somebody that you know that is
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  Speaker 1: just a man's man. Got nothing to do with me,
• 2:14
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with you. But at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the night, Benny the butcher involved with a fight in
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  Speaker 1: this club. So when did you realize? What was that
• 2:20
  Speaker 1: moment where you'd be like, I can't do this no more.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 4: Basically, you know what I'm saying, when it starts to
• 2:25
  Speaker 4: affect uh, my hustle, in my livelihood, my freedom, you
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  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, It's like that's the story of
• 2:32
  Speaker 4: my life, to be honest with you, you know what
• 2:33
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. You know the back home, the police got
• 2:36
  Speaker 4: my name in their mouth. You say that on these niggas,
• 2:40
  Speaker 4: these these these chicks, the ops, Like it's I really
• 2:44
  Speaker 4: just got to show people who I am and what
• 2:46
  Speaker 4: I am. You know what I'm saying that if I don't,
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  Speaker 4: if I don't, if I don't come around certain places,
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  Speaker 4: I would never see people ever fuck again in my life.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: So it's just time to you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 4: take that next step the boring life. I just turned
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  Speaker 4: thirty nine, I'm saying, I'm getting up there youtting old like, yeah, niggas, I.
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: Was asking did you feel you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: So.
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  Speaker 1: I was asking did you feel like survivors? Most like
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  Speaker 1: I made it, but my mans did not got to
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  Speaker 1: bring them with me, or I felt the way that
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  Speaker 1: I got to show them a different life. Do you
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  Speaker 1: ever feel that way?
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  Speaker 6: Man?
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  Speaker 2: One hundred percent?
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  Speaker 4: When you when you from where you from, a hood,
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  Speaker 4: a collective, a city like Buffalo, you almost take that
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  Speaker 4: on as a responsibility.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: But you got to wake up and realize, like nigga,
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  Speaker 4: that that's not my responsibility. My goal is not to
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  Speaker 4: get you rich or my goal is not to get
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  Speaker 4: you out the hood. My goal is to provide an
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  Speaker 4: opportunity so you can do those things for yourself.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred percent. But anything besides that is not on me.
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  Speaker 5: How do people in Buffalo feel about songs like bron
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  Speaker 5: Because to me, when I hear it's not like you
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  Speaker 5: turning your back on the hood. You just feel like
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  Speaker 5: it's time for you to go experience something different.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: Heard the part when I said I told my folks
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  Speaker 2: back home so long? You know what I mean? And
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  Speaker 2: that's just what it is.
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  Speaker 4: And if anybody loved me, and if anybody want me
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  Speaker 4: to succeed any further, they want those things for me.
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  Speaker 4: And if they don't, fuck them, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: Did you know where you wanted to go when you
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  Speaker 5: when you made that movie? You said someplace warm? Did
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  Speaker 5: you have a place in mind? Just someplace warm? You
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  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I'm telling you after this album
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  Speaker 5: going someplace warmer? How did people react to that that
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  Speaker 5: when they heard it? Well, they haven't heard it yet.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna see him.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna lose a couple of friends, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying. It's gonna be tweets and and whatever. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I don't care at this point.
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  Speaker 1: You came up here about a year ago. I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know when you came up here. Did you talked
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: about your new deal with deaf Jam because at time
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't think you were signed with
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  Speaker 1: def Jam, or you did it but you didn't announce
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  Speaker 1: it yet.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you announced the album in February of last year.
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  Speaker 4: When I came up here, I think I was because
• 4:39
  Speaker 4: we were talking about how you get the paper yet
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  Speaker 4: remember he wasn't hit last year.
• 4:42
  Speaker 3: It was.
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  Speaker 1: So for people that don't know you were Snoop's first
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: signedee on Death Jail, How did that come about? And
• 4:49
  Speaker 1: and it was I think people assume Snoop will go
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  Speaker 1: West Coast first, but he went with y'all. So what
• 4:54
  Speaker 1: was your relationship with stupid? Why did he do that deal?
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  Speaker 1: And why death.
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  Speaker 4: Jaimul I told my this story, but let me tell
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  Speaker 4: his side of this story basically because it's it's crazy too.
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  Speaker 3: Is that that's what he's saying at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the song yep.
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  Speaker 4: Y'all know when he first came to Depth Jam, he
• 5:09
  Speaker 4: asked them, like, yo, who y'all want? Who y'all been
• 5:11
  Speaker 4: trying to get? And he said my name, So he
• 5:14
  Speaker 4: been you know, he snooped, So he wanted to show
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  Speaker 4: them like I'm Snoop.
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  Speaker 2: Watch what I do.
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  Speaker 4: So he sought after me, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 4: And you know, he a og and and he speak
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  Speaker 4: my language. So the things that he said and the
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  Speaker 4: advice that he gave me led to me signing with
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  Speaker 4: Depth Jam when we were already trying. We were already
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  Speaker 4: in talks for about a year and it wasn't going.
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying it was a moving he says on the album.
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  Speaker 4: It took fifteen minutes.
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  Speaker 3: It was a fifteen minute phone call, and after that
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  Speaker 3: it was done. It was That's real.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 4: It was less than fifteen minutes. He was just saying
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  Speaker 4: that for you know what I mean, it was less
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  Speaker 4: than fifteen minutes.
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  Speaker 3: What was it? Was it a number he gave you?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, it was the number we ain't even going,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? It was the number yes,
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  Speaker 4: And guess what you know what I mean? Like like
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  Speaker 4: the first number was was good, and the second number
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  Speaker 4: was was was double that. But I just felt like,
• 5:57
  Speaker 4: you know, I brided independent for so long, so I
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  Speaker 4: just felt like, if I'm gonna go to a label,
• 6:01
  Speaker 4: it gotta be for this, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: And it got to be at this place and for
• 6:04
  Speaker 4: this number, so you know it really was a rocket
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  Speaker 4: science made it happen.
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  Speaker 5: What other resources has he provided other than the money?
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  Speaker 5: Because I love the song back again like you you
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  Speaker 5: snoop perfectly on that record. He killed that hook. But
• 6:18
  Speaker 5: what other things he provided other than money?
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  Speaker 4: Input, input, advice? He opened his doors up, you know,
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  Speaker 4: things like that. That's all the artists could want, you
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  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Because it's other places like like
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'm still coming up, so those things are
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  Speaker 4: not prevalent in other situations, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: So when he do it, you know he's a West
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  Speaker 4: Coast guy. Like you said, he brought me to depth jam,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, It like on some East
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  Speaker 4: Coat shit. So you know, other people could have done that.
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  Speaker 4: Other people could have made that fifteen minute phone call
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  Speaker 4: for me, but it didn't happen. So that's what he done.
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  Speaker 4: You know, that's more than enough.
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  Speaker 5: I will never understand why New York executives find it
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  Speaker 5: so hard to sign New York talent, Like why did
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  Speaker 5: it take dre and Am to get fifty? Why did
• 6:59
  Speaker 5: it take young Money to get Nick Nikki? Why did
• 7:01
  Speaker 5: it take Chasing to get Bennie. It's weird to me.
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  Speaker 2: They chas him, man, they chasing what they what they think?
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  Speaker 2: They gotta know what I'm saying. I don't know. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: When when when the diamonds and the juices right in
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  Speaker 4: there on the backyard, they chasing.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of times too. Like you said,
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: it's your sound was so different from what was out
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  Speaker 1: at that time. People didn't necessarily hear the sound at
• 7:20
  Speaker 1: that time. I was gonna ask you, what's your sound
• 7:23
  Speaker 1: like listening to your album? There's no album like that
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: right now that I've heard where it almost brings me
• 7:28
  Speaker 1: back to era of the mixtape days and kids growing
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  Speaker 1: up with. It's an intro, it's a hard So how
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: is your mind framed when you did your debut album?
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: Because this is your first album on death.
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  Speaker 4: Jam really it I just wanted to I just wanted
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  Speaker 4: to show people that that I'm refined, Like this is
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  Speaker 4: what I do on all levels. That's that's how I
• 7:45
  Speaker 4: describe it. It's refined hustler music. It's still the same
• 7:49
  Speaker 4: butch that people used to But you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean, I'm smarter, I'm wiser, you
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  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I'm still hungrier, I'm richer, you
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean. It's like things are going to
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  Speaker 4: my life different, you know what I'm saying. So my man,
• 8:00
  Speaker 4: my mind frame. I wanted to show that in the music.
• 8:02
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I wanted to show my
• 8:04
  Speaker 4: move That's why I name that everybody can't go.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to. You know what I'm saying, I'll be
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  Speaker 2: having to show people what the fuck is going on.
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: I still feel like you don't get as personal as
• 8:11
  Speaker 5: you could, and I wonder is it because of statute
• 8:14
  Speaker 5: of limitations.
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you. I thought about that too.
• 8:19
  Speaker 4: A lot of things I speak on the surface because man,
• 8:21
  Speaker 4: I got I got another five years to ten years
• 8:23
  Speaker 4: to tell people what the fuck is really going on.
• 8:25
  Speaker 4: And I can't wait. I can't wait to come back
• 8:27
  Speaker 4: up here and talk about what the fuck is really
• 8:30
  Speaker 4: going on right now? What I'm saying. But you know
• 8:32
  Speaker 4: what I mean, I don't.
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 8:33
  Speaker 4: I don't break the law and no ship like that.
• 8:35
  Speaker 4: That would be dumb. But you know what I mean,
• 8:38
  Speaker 4: It's it's a lot going on, man.
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. It's a lot going on.
• 8:40
  Speaker 5: Because I remember hearing Jez say that one time, like
• 8:43
  Speaker 5: I forgot what album it was, but whatever the project
• 8:46
  Speaker 5: was the statute of limitations of it and he felt like
• 8:48
  Speaker 5: he could even he could express himself even more.
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  Speaker 4: But I but I do want to say, I do
• 8:53
  Speaker 4: feel like I'm being harassed what I'm saying. I believe, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Buffalo yet say that what I'm saying. And I just
• 9:01
  Speaker 4: found out I'm on the FBI watch list. Back home,
• 9:05
  Speaker 4: they raided my studio about two months ago, Like you
• 9:08
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, I haven't even been home in
• 9:10
  Speaker 4: three months. I don't even know what the fuck is
• 9:12
  Speaker 4: going on. They hear my name, these niggas is running
• 9:15
  Speaker 4: their mouth talking I'm the biggest shit that ever happened
• 9:17
  Speaker 4: to Buffalo since the Wings and Josh Allen, Like for reals,
• 9:22
  Speaker 4: it's getting crazy, man, It's getting crazy, And I really
• 9:25
  Speaker 4: want to I almost want to just like to have
• 9:28
  Speaker 4: a lawyer send an email to these niggas.
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: Man, It's just like, what the fuck. You know what
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: I'm saying? Is my client doing that?
• 9:33
  Speaker 4: That got y'all digg high like that that y'all want
• 9:35
  Speaker 4: to keep messing with him, keep bringing his name up,
• 9:37
  Speaker 4: because if y'all y'all got TV, I got Instagram. I'm
• 9:40
  Speaker 4: pretty sure. I'm pretty sure when I see who watch
• 9:42
  Speaker 4: my stories? You know the pages were no profectfile aged
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  Speaker 4: dance somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not a fool, so I don't post nothing like that,
• 9:50
  Speaker 4: and I don't do nothing like that. It's just I've
• 9:52
  Speaker 4: been hearing that since I was since twenty fourteen, though
• 9:54
  Speaker 4: before anybody heard anything from me. You know what I'm saying,
• 9:56
  Speaker 4: when we was knee deep in this shit phone ringing
• 9:58
  Speaker 4: every day whole crew, I kind of understand a little bit,
• 10:01
  Speaker 4: but I gotta be dumb to be doing that.
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: Type of shit, you know what I'm saying.
• 10:04
  Speaker 5: You know what's so interesting? You hear rappers say that
• 10:06
  Speaker 5: in name music all the time. You're the first person
• 10:08
  Speaker 5: I've ever heard really say like, hey, man, leave me alone, leave.
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: Me white flag.
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 10:15
  Speaker 4: I'm waving a white flag. Leave me alone, man. We're
• 10:17
  Speaker 4: doing movies. Music emerged.
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 10:19
  Speaker 5: You ever thought about really having a sitting maybe sitting
• 10:21
  Speaker 5: down and having a conversation letting them I don't know
• 10:23
  Speaker 5: what y'all think this is, but it's not.
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: I thought about it, but I don't know how far
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: that would get me.
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  Speaker 4: But I just made some new friends right by the
• 10:31
  Speaker 4: name of Al Sharpton and Ben Crump, you know what
• 10:33
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I mean, they don't make me get
• 10:35
  Speaker 4: my boys on the phone, you know what I'm saying,
• 10:37
  Speaker 4: Like for real though, but it might be leading to that.
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: But then it's also like who would he speak to?
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: Like what is it aged?
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: Dan?
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: Is it prosecuted this person? Like who is on his neck?
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: And for what reason? Now I was going to ask,
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  Speaker 1: is that the reason why you said you haven't been
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: a Buffalo three months? You kind of stay away from
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: that area because you just don't want to be caught
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: up in the bull crap when you got things going on.
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. I got so much.
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  Speaker 4: I got so much going on, and I've been blessed
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  Speaker 4: to come from that life, you know what I mean.
• 11:01
  Speaker 4: And I promise I don't glorify none of that. But
• 11:04
  Speaker 4: I'm really one of them guys.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm really one of them guys.
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  Speaker 2: I don't mean to discredit nobody else.
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  Speaker 5: But you know what I mean, paid your death to
• 11:11
  Speaker 5: society exact, let's talk about that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want, you know, let's not glorify you paid
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: you that this.
• 11:16
  Speaker 4: Is exactly so for me to put myself in harm's way,
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  Speaker 4: meaning with anything and what you put other people around
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  Speaker 4: me and harm's way, it'll be dumb because you.
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: Did fat Time right hell yeah yeah yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah fed Time in State.
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  Speaker 4: Like I said, I'm not proud of it because people
• 11:32
  Speaker 4: wouldn't know that if I didn't tell them.
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  Speaker 2: I don't wear what I've been through on my skin,
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: How does that make you feel when you hear other
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: rappers talk about some of the stuff that you've been
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: through that you don't necessarily have to glorify, but you
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: see them glorifying, but you know deep down in your
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: heart that they've never lived the day of some of
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: the things that.
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  Speaker 2: Really I don't even care, man, I don't even care.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, if that's what you want to glorify, if
• 11:53
  Speaker 4: that's what you want a part of man, congratulations, man,
• 11:56
  Speaker 4: you you were a dummy, you know what I'm saying.
• 11:58
  Speaker 4: And Dunky had to day for niggas man for real,
• 12:02
  Speaker 4: because it's like it's two sizes of that. It's two
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  Speaker 4: sizes of that. We don't we done lost our brothers.
• 12:07
  Speaker 4: It's people who supposed to be here with me right
• 12:09
  Speaker 4: now today, who ain't gonna witness none of this because
• 12:12
  Speaker 4: because of those things.
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: It's my blood brother is gone, machine Gun Black is gone.
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 12:18
  Speaker 4: She she really ain't even get to know her uncle.
• 12:20
  Speaker 4: It's like, man, who would want to who would want
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: to glorify that? Who will want to be a part
• 12:24
  Speaker 4: of that? Honestly, Like the first thing, the first thing
• 12:27
  Speaker 4: I think of, I thought of when we made it
• 12:29
  Speaker 4: this far, making this money off off legal shit. It's like,
• 12:32
  Speaker 4: we really ain't have to do none of that ship
• 12:33
  Speaker 4: We just had to apply ourselves. That's the first thing.
• 12:35
  Speaker 4: And that's what I go back and tell my home.
• 12:37
  Speaker 4: It's like, we know, we ain't got to do this shit.
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: You know, you ain't got to do that. We did
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: it because we thought we had to do it. We
• 12:41
  Speaker 4: ain't have to do that shit.
• 12:43
  Speaker 5: I always tell people, don't judge brothers for what they
• 12:45
  Speaker 5: did in survival mold man.
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: You know, that's that's what y'all knew at the time, exactly.
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that that those was the
• 12:51
  Speaker 4: opportunities that was provided those those we was being taught
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: by hustlers, pimps and the killers.
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 12:57
  Speaker 4: Now, Now everybody successful, not everybody, but you know the
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: T shirt guy is successful, the mechanic guy successful, or
• 13:04
  Speaker 4: the dude who who cooking, cooking ribs up and cooking
• 13:06
  Speaker 4: fool successful, the chick successful.
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: Off here, everybody doing it. We ain't have to do that,
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: dumb shit.
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: When did you see the change in your dad?
• 13:11
  Speaker 6: When?
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: When did that? When did you see that? When did
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: you see this dad is a different person.
• 13:16
  Speaker 6: M That's it. I feel like I feel like when
• 13:18
  Speaker 6: he moved to Atlanta, because like at first I was
• 13:21
  Speaker 6: really like shoogar about it. I'm like, oh, this is
• 13:23
  Speaker 6: getting real. I'm like, this is getting serious. I thought
• 13:25
  Speaker 6: I was gonna be away from him and stuff, but
• 13:27
  Speaker 6: I still was seeing him. But I feel like when,
• 13:29
  Speaker 6: definitely when he moved away, that's when everything started changing.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: I said, and what changed you in Atlanta?
• 13:34
  Speaker 6: What?
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: What what made that that change happen?
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: Uh, what's not gonna Conway? They showed me that superstar life.
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I seen it. It's different
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: from somebody telling you about it, and it's different from
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: like you seeing somebody. These is my cousins. I seen
• 13:47
  Speaker 4: it and they, like I always say this in interviews.
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: They was very subtle about it. They wasn't coming to
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: me like Yo, we're doing this, we're doing this. They
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: were just showing me. They was talking about it. They
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: was just showing me. I'm like, you ain't had that
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: watch yesterday. You just bought that car today? Like what
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: is we doing on this rooftop meeting with these people?
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: Like we're sitting in the depth gym. I'm fresh off
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: the projects, you know what I'm saying. Like these boys
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: really showed me and I'm like, oh, it ain't no
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: motherfucker way I'm gonna be back in the hood doing
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: no dumb shit, Like it's time to get it.
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: Hold on, that's crazy.
• 14:14
  Speaker 5: So you was the last person to accept that because
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: it felt like Bennie was the forefront.
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: I was the last person. They had everything going on.
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: They was already they was already the deal was already
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: signed when I came around. Before I signed my Grisel
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: Dia deal, I'll tell you about it, like they try
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: to like I signed my Griselda deal, and they, uh
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: they changed the dates on the paperwork to try to
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: make it seem like I was signing Griselda before they
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: did shady, So I been under the shady umbrother.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: But the ink was already trying.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: Don't even say that.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: That's what happened when I when I, that's what happened.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: That's that's real shit, that's forgery.
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: That's real ship. You know what I'm saying. That deal
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: was over now. We could talk about it now, but
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: that's real ship. That just buzz trying to include me
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: and everything.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: But uh, I really I was the last one.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: That's great.
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, by the time Grisel did hit the streets,
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: of course, we it just felt like Bennie was at
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: the forefront. We knew all of y'all knew what Conway,
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: but it was a talk about Benny the budget because
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: I grabbed a baton.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: I grabbed a baton because they showed me, and all
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: I wanted to do was like I wanted to live
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: up to the standards of what was going on. I'm like, Okay,
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: I see I see this. How you carry it? Wait
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: till it's my turn. It ain't take me long.
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: So you was rapping, of course you clearly, but you
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: was rapping before that. You just didn't believe that it
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: could happen.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: I was just you know what I'm saying. I was
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: just one for then one for out, like the song
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: say like one for them, onet for out.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You know that's that's a disease.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Once that once that get
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: on your back is hard to get it off you.
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: I mean I would go ask you about that record
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: because I feel like you're talking about existing in the
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: music business, But where's the other foot. I don't want
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: to say that the other foot is a life of
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: crime because I don't think you were in crime.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: I just think that you might have still been in
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: the street.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: That's it, Like I said, I was, I was one
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: for in the game. After that freestyle with Flex, I
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: was one fit in the door at jay Z House
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: with West. I mean that, like when I'm doing that
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: freestyle with Reflex, I was like, you know it was
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: it was I was still doing things I probably shouldn't
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: have been doing.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: He's going back to the block after exactly, you know
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: And then but by the time, by the time I
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: had that meeting the Sign of rock Nation, I was like,
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: I'm in the landing now, like baby Girl said, and
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: I'm doing what I'm doing, you know what I'm saying.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: And tunnel vision.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Real shit, what was that conversation Like at Wholes.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: It was basically, you know, he describing Benness like he's
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: making future plans about Benness. We can do this, we
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: can do that. I was watching it, so it was
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: another it was another moment of realization, like what's going on, Like.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, you got a real opportunity.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: Cause first when you get in the game and you're
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: doing underground music, boom bap, how we're doing it? You
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: don't You don't think you could. You don't think you could. Uh,
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: you know, shoot as far up as we've done. But
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: that was another moment like, nah, they gonna let you
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: have this shit. You know what I'm saying, Like, if
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: you do the right thing, you can have this shit
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: if you want to.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: And one time, there's a lot of people don't know
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: even tho we've talked about this before, but you know,
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: people learned something new, even if it's the same thing
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: you've said in the interview.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: Before, but you and Emery was locked up together. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: we was locked up together, man. And it's like just
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: to be sitting with him and kicking it with him
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: on the other side, Like, man, that just that do
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: something to me. You know what I'm saying, That do
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: something to me? And I just realized how how strong
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: the power of God is and the power of hustling
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: and having good family and friends around.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: You know, did y'all building?
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: No, he didn't. You know, I left him alone. He
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: was you know what I'm saying. He was hoes.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: I ain't want to be one of them guys, know
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But like I said, like he knew
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: who I was because you know.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: What I'm saying. We was doing hot shit in there,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: And I just just feel good to just bump into him,
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: like yy, I was in that spot with you know
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: I look at him.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: What are those conversations like now? Always giving a game?
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I talked to eat a lot.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, us smoking, you know what I'm saying on the
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: balcony at the Rock Nation offices, just chopping it up
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: about family, and the conversations are rarely about music, rarely
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: about music. Out of a two hour conversation, we probably
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: talking about music fifteen minutes if that. So, just getting
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: that game an insight on how to maintain life on
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: this side.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: You know what, I love that doing one of the
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: most solid humans. You promise you, and I promise you.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask you. Things slowed down at
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: one time, and one time it was all about Gazelle
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: that it was everywhere, and then it slowed down a lot.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Now I'm starting to see it back again. What was
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: that slow down for? Was it to regroup or was
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: it to do an album? Was it to take a
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: step back?
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: Definitely to regroup, Like I haven't put an album out
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: of two years, you know what I'm saying.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: So definitely that.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: And uh men, these niggas been copying, these niggas been
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: watering everything down and we and we've been We got
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: so successful that where the support was coming from, it
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: kind of it kind of people backed up because we
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: was about to take over all of this shit, just
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: like we did anyway, you know what I'm saying. So
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: you know that's how people do when they see you grinding.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: They see you about to snatch the trophy again. You know,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: people dive back on you a little bit.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: I feel like that. I can't speak for Wessell Knaway.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: I kind of felt like people dial back on us
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: because they're like, man, you know, this is getting out
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: of control them buffalo niggas. You know what I'm saying,
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: it's getting out of control. But you know, Wes, he's
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: still doing what he doing.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: I believe he's going to be in the next five years,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: maybe sooner. I believe he's going to be designing from
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: for a major designer real soon on.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Wait.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: He just He's always been the top spinner to me,
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: and he still is. You you'd be high pressed the
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: name five niggas who can get in the ring with
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: him and me. I'm just a butcher, you know what
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. So you know, Devil Jim Dill. You know
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying about that, this is my first this
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: is my first major label album.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: People like you say, Charlamagne, people forget about that because
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: the run we had. I never dropped a major album
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: in my whole life, and this is the first time,
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: so we're still climbing.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: Was there any internal issues because on the album, you know,
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: you seem like you went out of your way to
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: let people know Griselda is still together. You speak on
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: people wanting to see the Triangle break up. Y'all got
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: the grill Griselda Express record. Why do folks want to
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: want you all to break up so bad?
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Because we've been running it for so long. We've been
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: running it for so long, and and and uh, you
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: know you're sick of seeing that. I think I think
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: a lot of artists experienced that. Uh, when everybody was
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: just on Drake Ass for his album, I think he
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: was experiencing that, you know what I'm saying, to even
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: a point where the ladies who love him, I was
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: hearing ladies. I was hearing women saying's like, yeah, I
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: ain't like the last album. I say, he'd been running
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: it for so long, running for too long. Uh, you
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: know we've seen whole go through that. Absolutely, I'm saying,
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: we've seen everybody, We've seen you.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Had a long run.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: You're going to go through.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: That exactly, So I want to I think people. I
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: think people want some controversy there. They expect that, and
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: uh so, you know they when they don't see us together,
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: they're like, oh man, they must be beefing. Man, we're family,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. I'm almost sick of saying that. Man, we
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: could never be broke up. That's why I spoke about
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: That's why I said it on the song.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: I remember when Conway was up here one time he
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: spoke about financial issues like you. I don't know if
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: he was saying, what's having a bad deal or something
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: like that.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: Man, I don't I really don't know their business. I
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: see that interview and I seen him spoke about it.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Maybe he felt like, maybe he felt like he deserves
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: something after after all the foundation work that he did.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, of course I feel like
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: he do. But like I said, it ain't none of
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: my business. Them niggas is brothers, you know what I'm saying.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Them niggas work putting the Haul and Ash Part two
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: out them, niggas was in them, niggas was in out
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: the country shooting a video together. I was JEALOUSI it's
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: doing without me for real?
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: Do you really think trust is more valuable than love?
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: That's the record you got on the album. Trust more
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: valuable than love?
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: And if so, why because love is faulty, Love is flawed.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Trust is. Trust is black and white. Either you trust
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: somebody you don't. You know what I'm saying. Love is,
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: love is not. You know what I'm saying. It's a
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: It's a great area with that. And I rather, I'd
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: rather be I rather had a trust than had the
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: love of somebody.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Because I can't depend on your love, I could depend
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: on your trust twenty four to seven.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: You know, I kind of agree with that because I
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: feel like trust is a character like even if I
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: don't know you, like that, if I see five thousand
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: dollars of yours on the table and I know it
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: ain't mine, I ain't got nothing.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: To do with it, Exactly.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Somebody loves somebody that somebody you trust won't steal from you,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: that somebody you love will steal from your ass in
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: the facts.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And people were mad that you said you were
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: supporting Trump at one time. Yeah, are you still supporting Trump?
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: And what's the reason is No comment on voting for
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: Trump twenty twenty four, No comment on that it's looked
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: like you having a hard time in that.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Case right now, you know what I'm saying, But no
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: comment on that.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: What I did learn from that situation, people in our
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: position ain't supposed to speak on their political candidates. That's
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: what I learned. And I also learned everybody voting for Trump.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I didn't vote. Not only
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: president I voted for was Obama. So I really was
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: just talking shit, you know what I'm saying. But I
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: was just noticing what I really what I what I
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: was getting at that statement is you know a lot
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: of times African Americans we vote, we vote Democrats. Man,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: what the fuck that been doing for us? That's all
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: what I mean is like what the Democrats been doing
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: for us? That I was expressing my frustrations on that.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: So you know what I'm saying, I don't know. I
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: don't know who I'm voting for.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting because there was a time what
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: you like, you said, you didn't discuss your politics, you
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: didn't discuss your religion, you didn't discuss who your favorite
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: rabbit was.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Out of jay z and uh nas ye.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: You you hear that favorite conversation and you might have to.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: You might have to sit back. You might like, let
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: me let them niggas discuss that. I ain't about to
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: even say nothing. That's right.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: I like what you said too about fans being too
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: focused on criticism.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Can we back then join the music.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: Do you feel like the lines of blurred between fair critics,
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: criticism and just hate from people?
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: I do because I feel like, like, like with all
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: of these dudes, who all of these dudes who get
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: their income tax money and go and go start a podcast.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Now they judging y'all niggas who's been here for years.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: It's like anybody who get a nigga put a song
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: on SoundCloud. Now youre talking about my shit better than Benny's. Like, man,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: slow the fuck down, you know what I'm saying. Just
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: respect the art. We the people who made y'all want
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: to do it, you know what I'm saying. So respect
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: the art. We accept criticism, but for me, it has
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: to come from somebody who's who's validated, you know what
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, And people gonna say, like, what validate somebody's opinion.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I've been listening to hip hop for all year.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that might validate your opinion, but you got to
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: have a professional opinion for me to take your shit seriously.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: With all of these voices right now that we can
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: hear all of these voices from social media, you know
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: all of this shit. So and I mean, I don't
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I'm sick of hearing Nigga's opinion. You know what I'm saying,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: I ain't validated.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Now, what's your opinion on this? Is Dad molde your
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: daughter on social media? She starts dating. What's your opinion
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: on it?
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: This is? This is what I tell her.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Any guy, any guy you meet, the first thing that
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: you call yourself like and you spend the time with,
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: the first thing you do.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Is what aund you bring him around me?
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So, now, if he disrespected you,
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: he disrespected me too. He done got cool with me.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: He done looked in my eyes. I'm saying, we don't.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: We don't smoke the blunt together, wash the game together.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: We don't. We don't have some food together. So like her,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Pop's cool. So when y'all in the heat of the.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Moment argument, you know, some shit you can't say because
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: you know who you got to answer to. That and
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: me and you kind of you got a bond, not
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: a real bond, but you know you're dating my daughter,
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: So respect that's the first thing you gotta do.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Because anytime I was dealing with a female and her
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: dad was in the picture, it was always in the
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: back of my head. It's like I can't. I can't
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: do old school like that. I can't cuss her out
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: right now, I ain't doing anything like that. And you saying,
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: he cool, you know what I'm saying. So I tell him,
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. That go for my sisters,
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: That go for anybody. If you're dating somebody, bring him
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: around the men and your family and let them vet him.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying, let them get a bond together.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: How do you know?
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: And you should bring somebody around, pops. Though you can't
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: bring everybody around pot right, you.
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: Can't bring But it's like when so living with my mom,
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: her biggest thing was like like bringing them around so
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: they can monitor it, you know, so they can like
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: know them. So instead of me trying to just do
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: it anyways not yeah, like why not bring my family around,
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: Why not making a thing for everybody to know.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: You know that's you said something earlier.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: What what did you know your father was getting into
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: that made you be like you were concerned?
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: Probably because no, he we're really close though, Like he
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: really tells me mostly everything, so I didn't have to
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: like see it from nowhere else or fine, we don't
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: I have to find out about it from nowhere else and.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Talk to me about everything. I'm a goom. You know
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I'm a goom.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: I probably was calling it up like yeah, you see,
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: like you.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Know that's how I was raised. My mom raised me
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: My mom front of me my first pack of weed,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, So to go tell yeah
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: at school how much was it?
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: Was?
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Probably a couple of ounces.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: How did you ask your mom that like that?
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Like I didn't even ask her.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: Look, I've been a hustler from day one, right, So
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: she was giving it to my older brother. He was
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: sucking it up. So when she gave it to me,
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what you supposed to have been
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: doing to me?
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Off rent? You know what I'm saying. So that's I
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: learned that from my mom.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Like I like this, this is really my best friend
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: right here? You know what I'm saying, and we communicate
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: like that on that level. I let her know what's
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: going on so she can know what's going on with me.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: So you the generational curse break in your family. Clearly,
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: I swear I am. You know what I'm saying.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: She next though she graduated high school, she's on a
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: she just graduated. She she on a pace to do
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: great things. I'm saying, I'm really excited to see what
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: she gonna do.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you know what I mean. Me Right now, I.
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: Want to go back to the rap conversation. Who should
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: who should be allowed to critique rap?
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Definitely definitely the DJs. What I'm saying, DJ's we love y'all.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, y'all don't get enough love,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: y'all don't get enough credit.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Definitely the DJs.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Definitely, the the ogs, the hip hop pioneers who've been
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: doing it. Uh, the execs who help people that sex,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: who's seen people come and go. Uh, you know, guys
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: like yourself, y'all. Come, y'all, y'all interview artists. Y'all know,
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: artists temperaments move y'll probably can interview artists who probably
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: ain't hot right now and say, like he out of here.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, He got the right attitude
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: so I can keep going on. Definitely, the fans, Definitely
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: the fans. Not casuals. Though not casuals like me. You
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Buffalo don't got a basketball team.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: I'm really I'm speaking, I'm speaking. I got an opinion,
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: but I'm really not spewing my opinion. But if we're
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: talking about football and everything, I'm spewing my opinion everywhere
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: left and right, you know. So definitely not casuals. You
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: gotta be in this and uh, it's a few more categories.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: It's a few more categories, but definitely not you know,
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: people who just who just casual people who just I
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: don't know, what's hard to say. I know they're gonna
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: be mad at me, but y'all know, y'all, y'all know
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: your opinion. Don't belong in this shit, you know what
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: I'm saying.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: I think another problem is, man, a lot of these
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: people are really just saying salacious shit to get motion
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: for their YouTube pages or their podcast. They don't even
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: believe ninety five percent of the stuff they say. They
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: just think talking reckless about somebody or yeah, talking I
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: don't want to say hating, but just.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Talking about somebody is gonna get the most one hundred percent.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: That's why you you you one hundred percent right. And
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: I meant to say that that's why the opinion shouldn't
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: matter because somebody just trying to put the first funny
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: viral comment that's right on a picture or on a
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: retweet so or a reex what you call it now,
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: it's called X round it, you know what I mean.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: So that's all they want to do. They just want
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: to be funny. They just want to, you know what
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, have fun.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: But all is given validation too, because sometimes artists go
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: see them, whether they're a podcast or a blogger, and
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: they have no real resume out there. They give a
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: shot an opportunity which boost their careers, and sometimes that works.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think a lot of the interviews and
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: everything now are not even about the music, you know
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Just like you said, we're watching these
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: interviews pop up. Interviewers pop up out of nowhere, and
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: they not talking about music. They just it's jokes on there.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: They get to see a different side of the artist.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: So I do like it, but it's like you know,
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: it's it's really no validation. I don't got shit to
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: do with the music, you know what I'm saying. Respect
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: to those guys, but a lot of them podcasts, like
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: a person like me, don't belong to no where the
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: fuck on there. What I'm saying, if when you talk
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: about the music, I don't want to be on there
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: laughing and joking with niggas and you know what I'm saying,
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: trying to make me go viral, none of that. Actually
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: I'm not that guy, you know what I'm saying. I
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: want to talk about the music. That's my strong point.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about the fucking music. And because you know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: a lot of niggas, a lot of niggas get niked
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: when you talk about the music, because ain't no Jews,
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: ain't no accolades, ain't no nothing. The niggas who sold
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: the most records in the world, you know, they can't
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: stand in the room with the real spinners. They don't
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: want to talk about that. They want to talk about
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: the Ferraris and all that type of shit. And I
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: get it. I hate to be the old school guy
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: saying that, but shit getting on my nerves.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Man, Can you rap?
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Is what you're saying.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Can you fucking rap? We know all about that. Can
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: you fucking rap? Stop hiring behind all that dumb shit.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: That's why I appreciate. I liked your conversation on raperidor.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: I likes your conversation with Looney on this It's Up
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: There podcast.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: That was a good one. Yeah.
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: It was focused on the music, and anything that you
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: talked about was rooted in the music, right.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: But I understand it though, because to be a superstar,
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: you got to have scandals.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You got to have scandals
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: on your name.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: You gotta have like you got to have the break
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: up rumors nowadays exactly.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nowadays, you got to have all that type of
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: shit attached to your name. So I get it.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: And ship with Detroit, yeah I knew before you go there.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: See what's your relationship with the Tree? Seem like Detroit
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: hold you down the line, and it seems like you
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: love Detroit a lot. And I see a bunch of
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Detroit artists on the album.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Because Buffalo Buffalo is kind of right over them.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: It's kind of Midwest I'm saying I got the mid
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: West vice from the way we talk in a way
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: you know, we grew up in that era, so this
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: is how our music sound. But a lot of them
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: young kids right now, Buffalo sounded like Detroit. You know
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. They sound like they're from the Midwest,
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: So you know what I mean. I was taking trips
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: back and forth to Flint when I was a shorty.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: So when we respect them dudes, man in the fans
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: like we we being there with Detroit dudes, all that
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: type of shit. So it's definitely some correlation there.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: Why can't you and Freddie Gibbs get on the same
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: page because I know y'all had the altercation. But then
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: recently I saw his ex posted picture you two all
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: hugged up together.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Why many?
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Almost cracked up laughing. But I gave her chain back,
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: That's the whole girl. I'm really a nice guy. I
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: gave her chain back. Or somebody reached out was like, yo,
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: she might she want her chain back, and I gave
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: it back to her. Then she came to my birthday party.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: She was called in the middle of some shit that
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: she ain't had nothing to do with you know what
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. And she probably thought I was a devil,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: but she get to see that I'm really a nice guy.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: And that's it.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: There's nothing more or nothing less, you know what I'm saying.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: I see she put that song out. Academics were saying
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: I wrote the song. I ain't write that fucking song.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't even hear the song. Yeah, I wouldn't. Wouldn't
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: do No. I wanted people do that, like I don't.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: I don't like, come on, like I'm pete for real,
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: Like I'm not like going write no song just because
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: she got her issues with him, don't make it seem
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: like me and her best friends. Now she wanted her
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: chain back and we got to know each other and
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: she's hung out.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: You think you and Freddie could ever? Like just no,
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: damn no, hell no. And one time y'all were cool, right, Well, yeah, I.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't even call it cool because of the record. Yeah
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: we did a record. I maybe thought we was cool.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, people and people will
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: be asking me that, but I ain't even keep talking
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: about this shit. But it's like, man, you don't do
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: that shit. You know what I'm saying that people you
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: cool and that's just and that's just it. You know
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I really don't have no problem with him.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: He never done nothing to me in life. I have
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: no problem with him. It's just that I would be
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: goofy and the people who I make my music for
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: will look at me goofy is if I will stand
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: next to him, you know what I'm saying.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna be honest with you.
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: I don't remember what y'all issue, right, So that's my
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: points and when when you might remember it because it's
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: personal to you, But for me, I don't even remember.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: So if I saw y'all piece it up, I'd be like,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: that's good. Two black men, y'all. I understand that they
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: bygones be bygone.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: But it is bygones to me, Like people can say
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: that right now. You know what I'm saying, It is bygones.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. The fans they want to
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: pick us against each other, and I get it. You
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It's entertainment for them. You know
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, It's entertainment for them. They they wasn't
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: in Buffalo when this shit happened.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: They baby Mama not popped up at you know what
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, So they don't give a fuck. They wasn't
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: in Houston when I got shot, so they don't give
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: a fuck about what happened. So I understand it. They
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: want to be entertained, but I'll be telling them too.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: It's like, stop, I don't got no problem with that man.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: I don't think that man got no problem with me.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: He might, you know what I'm saying, but it is
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: what it is. I don't give a fuck.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: You think if you had said that previously, then that
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: situation probably wouldn't have happened to Freddy in Buffalo.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: If you're to say, yeah, I don't have no problem
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: with that man.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: I did have a problem to him until that happened.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: That I was cool. Come on, honestly, I feel like
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: you got you get back. It's good. Honestly. Damn.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: Now, you said this is gonna be album of the year,
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: and you're supposed to feel that way.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Why do you think this is the one?
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Because my music is always anticipated like a motherfucker.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: These dudes be dropping. These dudes, I'm one of the
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: most anticipated artists. Every time I drop. You feel what
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, And I think that helps me. Everybody been like, well,
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: my fans, you know what I'm saying. You know when
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: you dropping, when you're dropping, when you dropping, they almost
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: getting sick of me. But I think that helps the
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: anticipation and the hunger for it. That counts for everything.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: And I got that on my side. Nobody drops first quarter.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I got that in the bag.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: My nigga ep told me that. You know what I'm saying.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: I got that in the bag.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: You know I'm saying. So, it's really not a lot
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: going on. And uh, you know what I mean. And
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: I'm talking ship. I'm with I'm with the uh the
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: producers who I get the most, I get the most
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: feedback with I get the most and hit the hip
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: boy alchemist, you know what I'm saying. So I got
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: I got all my superpowers working in one spot. Uh,
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: I'm at I'm at a major now. You know what
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, gett an extra push. You know a lot
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: of people say that don't mean ship that man, that
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: that means ship. You know what I'm saying. That means ship.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Don't you notice everybody who tell you don't sign to
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: a label after they rape the labels for the money.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: And you ever noticed that and.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Then they like, yo, don't do it and that and that, dude,
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: mean that they telling you because they've been there and
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: they learned from that. But like y'all rape them for
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: a minute. Now y'all saying don't do it, let me
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: get some of this money.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: You don't get to a situation like you look at
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: artists like an NBA young Boy, a little Dirk or
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Nli Chopper that was never a radio type of artist
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: like yourself, or you're gonna go to the point where
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: it's like I'm gonna make a radio record because all
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: those artists have made a radio record after being underground,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: like we see it in the n L E. Child,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: when we see it with Derek, you know, is Benny
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: the Butcher gonna be like, you know what, I'm gonna
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: make a radio so a record that I can hear
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: for show for show.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: Because on my next album, I'm going with the ladies.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: I don't give fucking nobody saying you know what I'm
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: saying I'm working out.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: You see, they got my two braids slick down. I mean,
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: I'm going with the ladies. I don't give funck about
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: none of that. You know what I'm saying. I got
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: to theyve been asking I'm doing I'm doing female songs, man,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: after this album, not all female songs, but I'm doing that.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: You said on rap Radar podcast that you still stand
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: on your tweet about having the best depth Jen released
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: in DMX, but last night you I think that was
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: last night.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: I saw it recently clarified that.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: Basically, I wanted to say, you know what I'm saying,
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: respect to the DMX and his family and everybody like that,
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: But what I meant was, I'm creating a jam moment.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: These people, these people who get on Twitter and like
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: first and foremost these bogs post that ship to get
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: the reaction. I'm sick of I'm doing that. I'm sick
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: of all of these Internet fucking weirdos. You've seen that
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: post that picture they posted, uh a Jada Pinkett.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how y'all think she look at her new look?
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Y'all know y'all posted to get people talking.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: That's what I call it, the Worldwide Nigga Net.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: That's exactly what no parts of the Worldwide Nigga So
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: you know, it's a lot of things I say, but
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: the the blogs posting that to get people up in arms.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: But you know they're not in it. They not in
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: these meetings, They not in these circles. You know what
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. It's like they love to have me in
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: that dev GM building. Like I'm been here the fucking butcher.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: What I'm saying, one of the if not the top
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: underground artists in the past few years at a major label,
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So that's what they needed.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's a resurgence over there.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: So that's what I was talking about. I'm gonna have
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: a dev Jam moment. I'm saying, we don't remember, we
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: don't remember no artists devjam moments, So no hip hop
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: shit in a while.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: And that's just that. And that's what I was speaking
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: to you know what I'm saying.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: And I know when X was dropping those was a
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: dev gam moment for me when I was shorty, So
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: that's what I was talking about. And When I say that,
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: people were like, yo, uh what about whole or what
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: about this? Or what about Kanye's album? Like, that's what
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: I mean. You know what I'm saying.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna catch with of the moments I was speaking on.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: What was the moment for me? You know what I mean?
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: It's funny too. You gotta couple of Cat Williams references
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: on the record, so I.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Feel, you know that's right, right, right right, that's crazy, man, Man,
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: shout out Cat Cat.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: He was on the ram page.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: You think everything he's saying was true?
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: No, No, I don't think there was some truth, and
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: I think there was some things that weren't.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: I don't think it was not entertain too, though you
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: ain't not entertaining. I think it was a lot of
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: truth in what he was saying. But you know, he
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: was up there talking his ship.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: I just hated the intention was the truest part of it.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, definitely.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: You can tell them niggas was getting on his nerves, yes,
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: And you could tell he was like, you know what,
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: I'm about to go up hearing Friday these niggas.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, you have a relationship with him,
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: but you just like him, That's why you was referencing them.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: I never met Cat. I'm a big fan. I'm a
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: big fan of Cat. I never met Cat. I've been
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: at dating a couple of times. I was locked up
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: with a couple dudes from dating, so I could see
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: like his character in them, you know what I'm saying.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: I see where he gets it from. But I never
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: met him. A big fan of the.
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: Question, why not do any lady records on this project? Like,
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: why not get people how it's going down on this one?
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: This is your debut with death.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: Jim Man that that's not where my energy let me.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: That's not where my energy let me, and I let
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: the energy lead and uh maybe towards the end of it,
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: I thought about it, but I didn't. I didn't concern
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: myself with it too much because that's not where my
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: energy let me. But I see that's where it's going
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: on the next one. But you know what I mean,
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: it wasn't there. I just want to I just wanted
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: to put my foot further down on these niggas.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: What else did you mean when you said it's not
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: a lot of respect of being a rapper right now.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: You don't get a lot of respect being a rapper
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: right now.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: But because back in the day, only the cool, talented
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: guys rapped, not a nerves rap, I'm saying, now whores
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: rap now, no lame niggas rap, you know what I'm saying.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: So it's just just another job. It used to be
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: like the cool shit. It's just another job now, you
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Trust me, I'm blessed and I'm
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: thankful to get here because I started doing it when
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: when it was a cool thing to do. I'm saying,
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: you know, it's really not that cool no more because
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: everybody watered it down.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: But I wanted to get it. I want to get
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: it back to cool.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: I'm not mad at those guys because you know, they
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: putting food on the place for their families and everything else.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: So and I think that's the dopest thing you could do.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: It's just just not that coolness.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Its easy accessible. We see it with DJs, We've seen
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: it with podcasters. We've seen it. It's you know, people
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: could just pick up a mic and do it and
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: they think it's cool exactly. And now back to the X.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: You know that that one year that X released the
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: album in the beginning of the year in the end
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: of the year. Is that what you're thinking about doing too?
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Of course?
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: See they ain't let you you right see you on that.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: I'm definitely dropping another album this year, and it's all
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: for the ladies, not all for the ladies.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: You said it three times. I'm going to do a
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: song or two.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: For the ladies.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he trying to put me over there, but I'm
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: definitely going to I'm definitely trying to get that record
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: with Sissa Uh, Summer Walker, Coco Jones, uh Man, all
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: the dope female artists that I listened to. Man, I
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: want to get a record with them, you know what
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: I'm saying.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: I kept hearing about the record Conway had that was
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: supposed to be like a female friendly record, but it
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: never dropped it.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think so.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: I know that Uh that record that that fab on
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: the Uh it was like it was like, it's a
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: bad boy record that he just dropped.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: That's the record boy record.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: But that record you just dropped, yeah, boogy on there.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Hold on, let me see, I don't remember that one.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: It just had a bogy on that, right, He just
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: dropped it.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: You're not talking about my ship, are you?
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: You know the Joy with King Kombs?
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that one.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: But Conway was on that record first. Really know what
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, So maybe that's what people talk about.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: The record was tough, I was, he was on that
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: record with them, but that was his, it was his record.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: I never heard I think I never heard like the
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: fat verses until the song came up.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: But Conway had two verses on it.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Wow, having like a producer gave to somebody else.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: Man, I don't even know, Like, I don't even like.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: He just played the record for me one day and
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, that's dope. When not coming out. I'm
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: saying he never said nothing about it. But I don't
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: know what happened with him.
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: You know, my good brother whole Vane, God blessed the
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: dead man, Like this was ago.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: He let me hear a record with you and Drake
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: and it was hard like Drake was. It was. It
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: was great, it was he was snapping, he was even
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: in his back, Like what happened to that record? Man?
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I got lost in the sauce?
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: What I used to have it on my phone?
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I got it that's where it's at.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: That was years ago. That had to be like three
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: four years ago.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but they got lost in the sauce like a
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: like a bunch of records do I got a record
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: with Meet that nobody never heard. And I actually did
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: the record with Meet like mm like a week before
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: I did the record with Drake. You know what I'm saying.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: I got a whole I got a record with Nas
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: the world never heard.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: Really hold him boys the hip boy produce it.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: Yep, him boy producer. It's it's clearing these records. That's
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: what it is. It's the next level of the business.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: I got a record with Scarface with the mechanics. You
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: I got some records that I'm saying I'm waiting to
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: come out.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Who produced the record with Drake?
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: I want to say forty. I didn't know for a
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: long time, but I want to save forty. I think
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: I heard back that forty produced it.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: He just lose it. He just lose the record with Drake.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: He not out of the world.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: It just think it just think get clear. I don't
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: think it was the right place the right time. I've
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: been saying that for like for three years now. What
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: I'm saying he used to get cleared though, who else
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: is his decision?
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Right? That's crazy, that's what I would. That's I don't know.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: Maybe was it like I said, when when when people
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: were trying to get like right now it's people who
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: got features with me trying to put them out, Oh
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: you know the label like hell no, now it's not
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: the time.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's what he was going through. I don't know.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: That's a bit the part of the business people don't understand, right,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: That's what member Buster Rhymes was upset at one time
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: because Drake didn't clear it. But Drake got an album
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: coming out of You got album coming out, somebody want
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: to clear it? You're like, not right now?
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Because and I'm sure the labels like not right now.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: We need everything focused on this project. And then by
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: the time it comes around.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: So I think there's a Buffalo in Canada. They all
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: they got a relationship too. Could Buffalo's right there right there?
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Definitely?
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: Definitely, man shout out car no official, man, you know
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, he's been running ship down there first
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: hell yeah, first one flag. I's got a couple more questions.
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: You feel like there are certain stereotypes of misconceptions about
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: being a rapper that contribute to the lack of respect
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: you feel like rapper getting.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: There mm hmm yeah, hell yeah. I feel like, you know,
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: people get to see too much of one side. You
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Uh, the negative ship. When I
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: say negative, shit, Like, people got to realize that when
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: people talk about guns and drugs, it's always not negative.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: That people just speaking on what they've been through, just
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: like any other thing. But you know, a lot been
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: going on, Rappers been dying.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Uh. It's like, I don't think they get to see
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: enough for both sides of these artists. You know what
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: I love that that young boy did that interview. He'd
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: been doing interviews lately, so they can see different parts
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: of him.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: I love that, except for him saying he's not big
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: on fatherhood. That was crazy.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I ain't see that part.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the one with Bootleg cab One you're talking about.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Damn we said that. I don't know.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: He probably got his reasons, man, you know, baby mothers
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: are crazy.
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: That definitely, you gotta be big on fatherhood. You can't
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: say you're not big on fatherhood.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: Man, you know he probably feels like man, he providing
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: and everything, and you know what I'm saying, still going
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: through problems, but fatherhood. Fatherhood is definitely a gift and
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: a blessing. And me, I don't, I don't got a
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: lot of kids all over the place, not saying that
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: he do. But when you got a level, that's a
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: lot of kids, yes, but when you when you only
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: got it, we only got a few couple, it's easier to.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Do things like that.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: So I can just imagine having a bunch of having
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: to deal with uh, different women, energy and all that
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: get crazy.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: But I feel like, man.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: People got to see both sides of an artist, and
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: it's on artists to show people that because and it's
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: on the people too, because everybody asked me, like, Yo,
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: there shooting in Buffalo. You ain't do nothing. You ain't
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: do this, You ain't. I did so much. You know
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, y'all just ain't paying attention to it.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: So people gotta go look, No, don't gotta go. Look,
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: they just got to acknowledge the positive things that rappers do.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: It really don't get a lot of airplay because you know,
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: you know, they they focused on the evil shit. They
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: focus on the dumb shit. We'll tell them now. The
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: mass shooting in Buffalo happened in the grops.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, tops, I was in Buffalo that day.
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: I donated money, I did a song for it. I'm
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: still in the process of doing things right now. I'm
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: planning on doing the free concert this year in the
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: city for it.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: I'm going to court with Ben Crump and I'm saying
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: the next court date MM sold t shirts uh and
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: and didn't keep none of the money. Like I said,
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: I did the song and ain't keep none of the money,
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: donated all the money off the song again, went on MSNBC,
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: the top rated news cable show on your Iri Melbert
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: on TV. You know what I'm saying, and spoke about
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: it and brought awareness anything else.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I hate that, man. I hate the fact that you're
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: even saying that.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: That's your city.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: That's just you did it. You did what you did
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: for your town, not for publicity. You did it because
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: you're from there. You love the people out there, and
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: that's all that's matter.
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: Strange to me, though, because they want rappers. They don't
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: have a problem with rappers rap about how much jewelry
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: they got. They don't talk to care how much money
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: and cars you got. If I talk about my community
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: service or money I donated to a good cause, like
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: I don't speak about that.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Why not real ship?
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: And you see with me and Dion Dawkins did we
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: we did a piece. We did a piece on my block.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying after that, like bringing, you know,
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: because you know Buffalo is a white city, you know
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Bringing, And they big Bills fans, So
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills helped me bring awareness to what was
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: going on on our side of the city.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: You know those Buffalo Bills fans too.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: His fans over there who've never been to a game,
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: never been to Orchard Park, and uh, you know we
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: want an Emmy for that.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Over Derek Jeter and Eli Manning.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Wow, just speaking about what
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: happened in Buffalo, bringing more awareness to it, you know
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. That's what I've done. But you know
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: people don't care about that, and people speak and people
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: speak it like it's a fact.
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: You ain't do nothing.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: Man, how you call yourself from Buffalo and you ain't
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: do nothing like I'm like bro like you wrong and
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: loud and as fuck.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you wasn't tapped in real shit.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Let's get into a joint off the album. Man, what
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: you want to hear?
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: H man?
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: I would like to hear. Let's play bron Man, Let's
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: pray bron Let's do that. Let's get into that.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: All right, Well we'll get into that now, Benny the Butcher,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: quick question and people that don't know, how did you
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: and little Wing get up a big dog?
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Oh man?
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: Shout out macnah McMain, he middleman. A whole bunch of
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: my records with Wayne. You know what I'm saying. And
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: that's the first thing I do when I need a
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: Wayne record, I hit Mac and Wayne told me when
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: we did the first record, he told me, anytime you
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: need me, I got you. And you know I used
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: that vessel and he ain't never turned me down anything.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: I sen he's sending in it right back and he clar.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: He clar.
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Last thing people would want to know, how come they
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: don't see hole on the album? They know that you
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: and Hove got a great relationship. This is the first
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: album on Death Jim. I know a lot of people.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we're looking for that whole verse.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: I think like I can't speak for I can't speak
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: for Big Dog, but he sent him to stuff I haven't.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: I haven't because because when I hit him up, when
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: I hit him up about music, I don't think he
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: was focused on music.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: So, like I said, I don't, I don't like to asks.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: I want to. I want to. I know he's watching.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I want to.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: I want to earn my record because that's what I realized.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, he ain't just gonna get that record.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I'll be easy.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: I gotta earn it. So I'm back in the shop.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: I'm back cooking, and hopefully the next one you would
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: get that. You know what I'm saying. But I feel
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: like I feel like I'm still I'm still like improving
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: grounds will hole and I still got to in my
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: spot about.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Get that verse ready because I'm knowing it's something that's
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: probably in your mind. But like I know, when it goes,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat this. So I'm gonna do this. I
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: don't got it ready, you know what I'm saying. I
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: gotta know like, I gotta notice for that, you know
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: what I'm.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: Saying, Like any any record that you hear be on
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: with an artist, I'm just doing these records and then
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: they getting on them, like I'm not doing that with
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: whole Like I gotta know that this is the whole record.
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: Your daughter lit up when you started talking about that.
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: So you must talk about this whole record a lot.
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: You must talk about doing the record with Jail.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: She just know that's my dog. She just know that's
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: my daughter. She's like, you know what I mean, you
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: know that's my favorite rapper. She know that I look
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: up the whole man. I'm not I'm not a guy
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: afraid to say that. You know what I'm saying, Like,
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: I look up to bro All, do you know what
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: I mean. It's like the way he the way he
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: do it, how he how he carry his business and
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: everything like that. I honor that I look up to that.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: That's special to me.
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: The evolution of him as a man, to me is
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: more special than anything he's ever done as an artist,
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: is watching him growing to the husband, family man that
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: he is, especially after the whole lemonade shit.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Right right, Like that was.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's dope, man, that's dope.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: You gotta hope we've seen it too. I think that's
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: part of it too, Like we've seen his evolution and
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: seeing him come from the kid from.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Brook he put.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: We seen him in the club every day. Do it again?
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: Was the hook and do it again. That's a fact
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: he did. Was doing him dirty.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: That boy. Man, he was really out, like he was
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: really in the clubs like he was out.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: That's that's what makes it. That's why he p's laughing
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: because he seen he was.
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: I'm bringing up all stuff, but they try to cancel
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: whole some old record.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: You're right, you're right.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Well, let's get into the record right Here is Braun
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Benny the Butcher. The album comes out January twenty sixth.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Everybody can't go. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning, Wake
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: that ass up in the morning.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.