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Speaker 1: This is one of the most important and influential documentaries
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Speaker 1: in the conspiracy realm that I think I've ever seen.
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Speaker 1: This one is right up there with conspiracy asylums. But
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Speaker 1: this one has the smoking gun footage. Imagine if every
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Speaker 1: conspiracy documentary had some kind of smoking gun footage on
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Speaker 1: par with what Alex Jones got here.
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Speaker 2: Under the Dukes, Yeah, under the ducks.
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Speaker 3: Regular looks under the ducks, Undy the Dukes, Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Under the ducks, under the docks.
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Speaker 5: This is under the docks.
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Speaker 6: I'm sean Chris paranoid American. Here.
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Speaker 7: Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove two thousand film, directed by
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Speaker 7: Alex Jones and narrated by Alex Jones. This film was
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Speaker 7: a shocking expose into acoltic rituals in Bohemian Grove, with
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Speaker 7: powerful figures from bankers to governors to presidents and actual
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Speaker 7: footage that none of us had seen.
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Speaker 5: Again, this is the beginning of the Internet, So like
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Speaker 5: this was like.
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Speaker 7: Whoa what man have you can't even believed this even
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Speaker 7: though it's not perfect in every way, Like, but you
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Speaker 7: get an extended cut of what actually goes on in
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Speaker 7: Bohemian Growth, of which is incredible.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this one shaped me like this one actually changed
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Speaker 1: the way that my entire brain worked because it's such
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Speaker 1: a crazy, over the top clane. There's even a clip
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Speaker 1: later in the movie we'll talk about where he's on
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Speaker 1: the street and he's yelling at people about what's happening
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Speaker 1: in this footage, and he's like, I've got the footage.
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Speaker 1: I've got the footage, and it absolutely sounds like the
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Speaker 1: rantings of a wild person. But actually seeing the footage
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Speaker 1: and seeing them go in and get it personally, this
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Speaker 1: is something that not many other people have done. You
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Speaker 1: can find a couple online where someone has gone but
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Speaker 1: not during the actual event. They'll sneak in when no
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Speaker 1: one's there. These dudes snuck into Bohemian Grove during the
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Speaker 1: actual encampment and got the actual cremation of care ritual
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Speaker 1: on videotape. This one is legendary.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was the smoking gun, right like, it's something
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Speaker 7: that oh man, I heard they do weird stuff and
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Speaker 7: Rich Woo's and like there's all these rumors and then
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Speaker 7: finally this was the it. Right here, here's the smoking gun,
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Speaker 7: got the evidence fingerprints on the weapon, shut this case
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Speaker 7: clothes and it was an eye opener for me as well,
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Speaker 7: And I think we'll get into it, but I think
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Speaker 7: it was something deeper than that plotting the course. Now,
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Speaker 7: let's go with the first claim you kind of like
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Speaker 7: hinted at it. One of the big claims in this
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Speaker 7: is that there's occultic rituals and ceremonies. He claims out
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Speaker 7: of Bohemian Grove that hosts rituals involve pagan worship occult practices,
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Speaker 7: specific ceremonies called cremation of care, where participants engage in
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Speaker 7: theater performances that include the burning of a fng symbolizing
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Speaker 7: the shedding of their worldly cares and responsibilities. And you
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Speaker 7: actually get that, like you actually see it's not just
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Speaker 7: a claim because now the claim of like are they
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Speaker 7: really sacrificing people?
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Speaker 5: Ooh, that's maybe not.
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Speaker 7: Proven, but for sure that this theater performance is taken
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Speaker 7: on video, Like can you actually get pretty pretty decent
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Speaker 7: shots of it?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Like you said, this is the smoking gun.
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Speaker 1: This one is absolute proof that this event occurs as
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Speaker 1: cremation of care ritual that involves elites from all over
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Speaker 1: the country in different industries and intelligence and politics. They
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Speaker 1: all get together and they worship this huge owl wearing
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Speaker 1: robes in the middle of the night, like it's straight
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Speaker 1: out of a Simpsons cartoon about stonecutters. But here you
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Speaker 1: actually see it all like it's objectively true, unless you
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Speaker 1: want to start dancing around like did they have AI
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Speaker 1: generated video in ninety eight or none of that was
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Speaker 1: even on anyone's mind.
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Speaker 6: Though.
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Speaker 1: Again, this thing came out and it was I think
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Speaker 1: explosive because it sounded like one of the craziest claims.
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Speaker 6: And here here you got proof.
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Speaker 7: Another claim that is kind of a claim, but it's
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Speaker 7: also backed up with some proof, is that influential and
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Speaker 7: powerful elites gathered at Bohemian Grove, from US presidents, corporate execs,
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Speaker 7: high profile figures, and bankers who discuss politics and maybe
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Speaker 7: some social governance and social issues, that they made decisions there.
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Speaker 7: They're not proof of that necessarily, but there is proof
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Speaker 7: that these characters actually attend this event well.
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Speaker 1: And piggybacking on that claim in here, they bring up
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Speaker 1: a few things in this movie. We'll get into the
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Speaker 1: pros and cons a little bit later on. They make
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Speaker 1: some statements that you can back up, but the movie
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Speaker 1: itself doesn't necessarily get into all the nitty gritty details
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Speaker 1: on how you can back that up, so it would
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Speaker 1: have been hard to maybe prove some of these claims
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Speaker 1: may but one of those claims is that the Manhattan
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Speaker 1: Project was planned and run from Bohemian Grove and not
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Speaker 1: on military compounds and not in political offices. This actually
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Speaker 1: was planned from this remote location out in the you know,
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Speaker 1: the Redwoods, and that also these are where kingmakers go.
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Speaker 1: This is where they were showing examples of here's a
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Speaker 1: picture of this guy getting invited to Bohemian Grove and
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Speaker 1: then a month later, now they're elevated to some very
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Speaker 1: large political or business position, like they've actually got power now.
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Speaker 1: Trying to draw those connections that if you get invited
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Speaker 1: to Bohemian Grove, that's the start of your journey. That's
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Speaker 1: kind of the initiation that you have to go through
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Speaker 1: in order to get into bigger seats of power.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and they don't explain exactly or prove it, but
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Speaker 7: it does seem very plausible in that in that sphere.
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Speaker 7: Another one is this secret secrecy and exclusion right they
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Speaker 7: talk about and I liked where they actually again this
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Speaker 7: is still remnants of old Alex Jones of where you're
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Speaker 7: getting some gorilla journalism where he goes to the town
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Speaker 7: and actually starts interviewing people there, and they're like, hey,
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Speaker 7: so what goes on there? Man? Have you heard of
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Speaker 7: these rumors? Have you heard of these rituals? Some have,
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Speaker 7: some had read different books. But it really proved to
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Speaker 7: me the secrecy and exclusion of this event that not
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Speaker 7: many people now. One interesting he actually interviews a guy
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Speaker 7: that works there, and you can kind of see he
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Speaker 7: must have seen some things because his body language is like,
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Speaker 7: oh well, yeah, well no, that doesn't happen here, and
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Speaker 7: you kind of don't really believe him, or I didn't
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Speaker 7: believe him.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The Man on the Street interviews in this particular documentary
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Speaker 1: like make it because it shows here's the locals that
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Speaker 1: have been living and working in this area for twenty
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Speaker 1: or thirty years, and most of them mention how the
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Speaker 1: Bohemian Grove employs so many in that town, Like, if
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Speaker 1: the Bohemian Grove weren't there now, they have to probably
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Speaker 1: go a lot farther in order to get to jobs
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Speaker 1: and work. So this group is kind of bankrolling a
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Speaker 1: large portion of the town. You can throw a rock
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Speaker 1: in a crowded room and most likely hit someone that
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Speaker 1: has worked there. For a summer gig, maybe when they
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Speaker 1: were younger, maybe right now they're employed, and the guy
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Speaker 1: that you're talking about, they kind of just, hey, have
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Speaker 1: you ever heard of this bohemian growth place? He's like yeah, maybe,
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Speaker 1: And then then finally they get it out of them,
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah I worked there, I've been there, And then like,
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Speaker 1: have you been there for the cremation to care ritual?
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Speaker 1: And his face just completely goes blank and you can
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Speaker 1: see him now being way more stand offish.
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Speaker 6: Now he doesn't want to engage in the interview anymore.
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Speaker 7: Another claim, again these are not necessari claims because they're
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Speaker 7: kind of backed up too, is the manipulation of the
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Speaker 7: public perception where a lot of people just go, ah,
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Speaker 7: Bohemian grows just said drinking you know, social club where
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Speaker 7: people just go, like powerful people, they just have.
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Speaker 5: A couple of drinks. Yeah, they wear robes.
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Speaker 7: And they pretend to sacrifice people, but it's not really
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Speaker 7: a big deal. It's just really a drinking club. And
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Speaker 7: they highlight I think it was Spin magazine.
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Speaker 5: I might be wrong with that that.
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Speaker 7: There was Xbot magazine, Spy magazine, an expose where they
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Speaker 7: were just kind of like infiltrated the same thing, kind
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Speaker 7: of like this was the precursor to what Alex Jones
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Speaker 7: had done.
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Speaker 6: Well, so the Spy Magazine one.
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Speaker 1: Then this is such a good, great note because Alex
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Speaker 1: Jones make a point that other people have claimed to
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Speaker 1: have infiltrated, and that Bohemian Grove is not a new thing.
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Speaker 1: People have been writing books about it forever. I mean,
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Speaker 1: the actual group got put together in the late eighteen eighties,
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Speaker 1: and I think you can find books about it in
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Speaker 1: the fifties and sixties and seventies of people that work there,
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Speaker 1: so you can get a lot of the same information.
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Speaker 1: But it was so niche like not this would have
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Speaker 1: been such a random topic for anyone to even believe
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Speaker 1: without any of these big exposs And one of them
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Speaker 1: that he brings up is Spy Magazine. That Spy Magazine
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Speaker 1: went in there. They put it on the cover. They've
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Speaker 1: got Kissinger I think, dancing wearing like cocing up bikini
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Speaker 1: and he's holding the big martini and they play it
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Speaker 1: off as this big frat boys playing off steam in
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Speaker 1: the middle of the woods, and that this is supposed
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Speaker 1: to be the big expose. And Alex Jones makes a
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Speaker 1: point that no, that is the pr version.
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Speaker 6: That's the version that.
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Speaker 1: The Bohemian Grove decided to out themselves through this spy
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Speaker 1: magazine just so that they can paint this picture of
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Speaker 1: it being a bunch of frat guys going out and
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Speaker 1: getting drunk in the woods and just kind of having
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Speaker 1: a grand old time. And we're not playing a Manhattan
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Speaker 1: project here. We're not doing human figy sacrifice to ancient
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Speaker 1: Babylonian gods.
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Speaker 6: That's not us. We're just out here to drink and
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Speaker 6: have fun.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, blowffalo steam, you know. Doing all this politics stuff
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Speaker 7: gets us work done. We just had to all get
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Speaker 7: together powerful people and just have some drinks because obviously
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Speaker 7: the Cam drinks with us.
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Speaker 1: I got a couple other specific claims that come up
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Speaker 1: here to two quick ones. One is that Alex Jones,
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Speaker 1: throughout this movie is really trying to tie a connection
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Speaker 1: between Moloch and this owl in Bohemian Grove and this
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Speaker 1: one we'll get into a little bit later too. But
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Speaker 1: he won't let this thing drop. He doesn't just bring
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Speaker 1: it up once. He continuously brings up the fact that
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Speaker 1: these are Babylonian pagan rituals, that it's all about Moloch worship,
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Speaker 1: and that the Moloch, and he even mentions that people
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Speaker 1: in the past would burn, you know, children and burn
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Speaker 1: people in these metal owls. And some of this is
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Speaker 1: a little bit. He's putting it on thick and he's
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Speaker 1: really bringing this. And then the other big claim that
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Speaker 1: he makes is they're doing gay stuff that there's so
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Speaker 1: much happened about even grow. Yeah, it's a all boys
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Speaker 1: club and they're blowing off steam, but they're also maybe
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Speaker 1: blowing more than just steam.
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Speaker 7: Let's get into the hidden treasures and overboard moments.
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Speaker 5: For me, some of the.
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Speaker 7: Hidden treasures is really you kind of get introduced to.
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Speaker 7: For me personally, I'm gonna go on in personal aspect,
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Speaker 7: does Sculling Bones, Builderberg Group, CRF, TRY, Trilateral Commission, and
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Speaker 7: globalists in general. This film, especially the first part of it,
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Speaker 7: because it's really the adventure to Bohemian Grove, right, Like
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Speaker 7: he's kind of showing you the travel and he's getting
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Speaker 7: on his way and like I'm going, here's the Golden.
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Speaker 5: Gate Bridge and here's the forest.
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Speaker 7: But in those there's sections of him being at hotels
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Speaker 7: where he's breaking down not just the Moloch worship but
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Speaker 7: also like, hey, the CFR does this and this is
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Speaker 7: they're connected with skull and bones, and for me, it's
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Speaker 7: a hidden treasure because it was a treasure trust of stuff.
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Speaker 5: Where I'm like, whoa, my god, what is sculling bones?
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Speaker 5: And what Bush is in it?
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Speaker 7: And then he the naming of people like you know, Kissinger,
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Speaker 7: like you said, Walter Cronkit, Richard Niss, Nixon, Bill Clinton, George.
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Speaker 5: Bush, George H. W. Bush, like all these.
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Speaker 7: Powerful figures that we were like, Oh wow, they're all there,
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Speaker 7: and he really connects them and it has so much
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Speaker 7: more information for you to dive into about, like I said,
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Speaker 7: the Trilateral Commission, which I had never even heard of
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Speaker 7: before I saw this film.
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Speaker 1: I got to kind of maybe this is cheating, but
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Speaker 1: I almost feel like the hidden treasure is not hidden.
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Speaker 1: It's just the fact that we've got actual footage of
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Speaker 1: the cremation of care ritual in Bohemian Grove in the
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Speaker 1: late nineties, and that this did not exist before or
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Speaker 1: after then. I'm not even sure that anyone else has
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Speaker 1: ever gotten this kind of footage during the actual ceremony,
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Speaker 1: And in fact, I'd probably argue they've probably clamped down
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Speaker 1: on security quite a lot since this one came out,
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Speaker 1: because this is the one if someone mentions, oh, have
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Speaker 1: you ever heard someone snuck into Bohemian Grove, Like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you're talking about Alex Jones. And by way, someone that
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Speaker 1: doesn't get a lot of credit in this movie is
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Speaker 1: John Ronson, and we do see him talking to John Ronson.
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Speaker 1: John Ronson's the one that I think he wrote a
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Speaker 1: book called Them and it's just about a whole bunch
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Speaker 1: of different kind of fringe groups. And I almost feel
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Speaker 1: in a John Ronson way, he was there just as
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Speaker 1: much to find out about Bohemian Grove as he was
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Speaker 1: to find out about Alex Jones and this weird.
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Speaker 6: American, over the top sort of group.
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Speaker 1: And you can see there's a few times when John
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Speaker 1: Ronson is sort of questioning Alex in a joking but
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Speaker 1: serious way, like Alex, you're gonna get violent? Are you
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Speaker 1: gonna do something that's gonna get us all arrested? And
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Speaker 1: Alex kind of plays into it, and you can tell
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Speaker 1: that John's a little bit put off by, you know,
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Speaker 1: Alex's zealousness into.
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Speaker 6: Inflord to infiltrate these guys. We're gonna find him, kill
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Speaker 6: them babies, And.
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Speaker 1: You can see that John was not there for that
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Speaker 1: particular vibe and Alex is just overpowering everyone else involved
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Speaker 1: in this.
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Speaker 6: This sort of expose a.
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Speaker 7: And that is one of my last hidden treasures in
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Speaker 7: it is you actually get the character Alex Jones to
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Speaker 7: come out and his comedic presence. One of the highlight
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Speaker 7: moments for me was when he's in the taxi and
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Speaker 7: I think, I think they're driving to go meet John
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Speaker 7: at a hotel and he's like, yeah, you know, Moloch Molock,
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Speaker 7: they're sacrifice babies. And the guy's like oh yeah, Like
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Speaker 7: he's just he doesn't know what to say. And he's like, yeah,
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Speaker 7: they're over there sacrifice babies, doing these rituals, and like
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Speaker 7: the guy's like oh okay, Like he doesn't know how
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Speaker 7: to respond. But this is where you really get the
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Speaker 7: Alex Jones. Like this character, like you said, the WWE
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Speaker 7: Alex Jones, the World Heavyweight Champion of Entertainment. He gets
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Speaker 7: out there and he makes so much aggressive funny like
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Speaker 7: Joe because he's funny to me. I know a lot
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Speaker 7: of people don't like him, but this is where you
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Speaker 7: really get to see his comedic presence of how he
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Speaker 7: just says random things to people well, and this.
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Speaker 6: Is kind of to what I was mentioned.
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Speaker 1: The beginning of this is that as soon as he
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Speaker 1: gets this footage, he goes and he gets one of
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Speaker 1: his assistance or whatever to put on a George Bush
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Speaker 1: mask and then put on a big cloak and then
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Speaker 1: holding up like a little sign, and then he's just
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Speaker 1: on a bullhorn, just screaming into the void into like
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Speaker 1: a busy street about how these elites and George we
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Speaker 1: got footage. George Bush's out there, They're killing people in
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Speaker 1: the middle of the woods.
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Speaker 6: I've got the footage.
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Speaker 1: And you would just walk by and think this is
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Speaker 1: just an absolutely insane street preacher. But you actually watching
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Speaker 1: the documentary, you're like, he actually does have that footage,
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Speaker 1: and this weird stuff that he's saying that he's got
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Speaker 1: on tape, he really does have it on tape. It's
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Speaker 1: so wild to kind of see that aspect. I do
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Speaker 1: have a couple of complaints on this one too. There
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Speaker 1: are like a few overboard moments, for sure, unlike Police
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Speaker 1: State two thousand, when it was very much by the books,
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Speaker 1: and his overboard in that documentary was just like him
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Speaker 1: getting arrested for not standing down, which I give him
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Speaker 1: credit for. That was not a con and this one
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Speaker 1: he does hammer on this Moloch worship, and it seems
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Speaker 1: to me can plate in it. And this bugged me
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Speaker 1: for decades, man, because ever since this movie came out,
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Speaker 1: whenever someone would see an owl, they'd be like, Oh,
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Speaker 1: that's Malok.
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Speaker 6: And I used to hear people like, oh, there's Molk.
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Speaker 1: On the back of the dollar bill, and I guess, like, historically,
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Speaker 1: that's not necessarily correct. And I've come around on this
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Speaker 1: a little bit now, if I don't get triggered anymore
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Speaker 1: when someone conflates these two things. But the owl has
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Speaker 1: absolutely nothing to do with Malak worship and child's sacrifice
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Speaker 1: or any of that. The owl has its own sort
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Speaker 1: of pagan rights and rituals, although you could also argue
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Speaker 1: that every single animal also has pagan rituals and rights,
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Speaker 1: and so just the fact that an animal has some
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Speaker 1: sort of pagan rituals associated with it does not immediately
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Speaker 1: make it and equate it to Malik.
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Speaker 6: Mallk was usually a two horned god. It was usually
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Speaker 6: a bull.
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Speaker 1: It could be like a go, It could be anything
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Speaker 1: typically with two horns that goes back to these like
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Speaker 1: ball Hammon kind of deities. But the thing that I've
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Speaker 1: come around and I guess where the conflation came from.
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Speaker 1: Is burning something to this animal, and that in burning it,
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Speaker 1: you're doing this sympathetic magic exchange, and in this case
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Speaker 1: that would be Moloch worship, but the animal itself. So
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Speaker 1: for me, this is like the most overboard things that
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Speaker 1: bugged me for at least twenty years about how Alex
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Speaker 1: Jones single handedly confuse the Internet. But you can also
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Speaker 1: tell now when someone hasn't done just a modicum of
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Speaker 1: research when they start calling an owl moloch or they
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Speaker 1: start referring to what all of this, But Alex Jones
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Speaker 1: puts some like bad information. He actually talks about these
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Speaker 1: metal owls that people would be burned in. No that's
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Speaker 1: called the brazen bull that did historically been rumored to exist,
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Speaker 1: that they would put someone in an actual brass bull
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Speaker 1: or a bronze bull and burn them inside of that.
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Speaker 1: But it's never been an owl. There's no documentation on
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Speaker 1: any of this that comes up. And there's a few
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Speaker 1: of the things that he leans into on this as well,
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Speaker 1: where he'll just sort of he'll use weasel word and
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Speaker 1: I'm more used to on mainstream media. For example, in
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Speaker 1: that footage of them doing this cremation of care ritual
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Speaker 1: and they're all wearing robes, right, like, like robes are
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Speaker 1: pretty typically seeing these cult members and these ancient pagan rituals.
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Speaker 1: But he'll be like, oh, they're wearing these Ku Klux
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Speaker 1: Klan style robes, and I mean, they weren't white, they
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Speaker 1: didn't have hoods. And the reason why he said that
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Speaker 1: was because he's just trying to throw a little bit
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Speaker 1: of extra dirt on it. You know, it's like, oh,
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Speaker 1: maybe they're going to be burning a person, or maybe
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Speaker 1: they're going to lynch somebody, none of that's the case.
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Speaker 1: He's adding stuff on top of this movie that if
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Speaker 1: he had just let it be what it was and
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Speaker 1: not trying to paint these extra little embellishments on it,
19:41
Speaker 1: it would have been even better movie. And I'll al
19:44
Speaker 1: say the other overboard for me was that I don't
19:47
Speaker 1: necessarily need to see him getting on the airplane and
19:50
Speaker 1: talking in the airport and being in the taxi, like
19:53
Speaker 1: they could.
19:54
Speaker 6: Have just shown the footage.
19:55
Speaker 1: But then again, the footage itself only comprises maybe fifteen
19:59
Speaker 1: to twenty minutes of the movie, and then they show
20:01
Speaker 1: it again in slow motion and they give you like
20:03
Speaker 1: a director's cut voiceover. So maybe they just kind of
20:06
Speaker 1: needed some of the extra contexts, but I would have
20:08
Speaker 1: loved to have seen way more of the Man on
20:10
Speaker 1: the Street interviews and just people that work there.
20:13
Speaker 5: I'm with you.
20:14
Speaker 7: That was my overboard as the extra b roll like unneeded.
20:19
Speaker 7: There was like some scenes where he's just literally no talking,
20:22
Speaker 7: just seeing trees, and then that it being older technology,
20:27
Speaker 7: you know, watching it on YouTube and stuff, it's just
20:29
Speaker 7: all blurry and you're just like a lot of excess
20:32
Speaker 7: scenes and like he sensationalizes a lot of things, and
20:35
Speaker 7: like I said, it does cool that it brings out
20:37
Speaker 7: the character Alex Jones, but a lot of it's not needed.
20:40
Speaker 7: I think he could have just stuck with it from
20:43
Speaker 7: on the on the Streets, the Man on the Street
20:45
Speaker 7: interviews with the townspeople, and then gone straight into the video.
20:49
Speaker 5: I don't think it needed to be two hour documentary.
20:51
Speaker 7: I think he could have made it an hour fifteen,
20:53
Speaker 7: maybe an hour twenty and it would be just as impactful.
20:57
Speaker 7: But yeah, that's my main complaint was there was too
21:00
Speaker 7: much footage that I did not need to see.
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Speaker 1: And also that you wouldn't know this unless you've gone
21:06
Speaker 1: way down the Bohemian Grove rabbit hole, like I have.
21:09
Speaker 1: But there were so many books and other information accessible
21:13
Speaker 1: to Alex Jones during this time, you know, as he's
21:16
Speaker 1: making this movie, where he could have included way more
21:19
Speaker 1: historical context, the names and the reason about all these
21:23
Speaker 1: different communities in there that these were written in books
21:26
Speaker 1: in the seventies, and he kind of doesn't include a
21:29
Speaker 1: lot of it. A lot of the stuff that he
21:30
Speaker 1: says is either him trying to paint something in a
21:34
Speaker 1: very specific way, or it might have just straight out
21:36
Speaker 1: have been out of ignorance. Maybe he didn't read those books,
21:38
Speaker 1: or maybe he didn't decide not to include them. Man,
21:40
Speaker 1: this would have been the perfect vehicle to have gotten
21:43
Speaker 1: a lot more accurate information about Bohemian Grove in here.
21:47
Speaker 1: But all that being said, man, we get freaking actual
21:50
Speaker 1: footage of the cremation of Care ritual. It's legendary.
22:01
Speaker 7: Testing the waters with a deep dive. For me, you
22:05
Speaker 7: spoken on the last segment the Cremation of Care. I
22:09
Speaker 7: thought that this is what the film is like. You
22:12
Speaker 7: could have just showed me that footage and nothing else,
22:16
Speaker 7: and I would have been like, it's worth it, right,
22:17
Speaker 7: It's worth getting in the emission, but actually getting through
22:23
Speaker 7: there and like knowing what the event is and how
22:26
Speaker 7: it is presented, where we see the ceremony go through,
22:29
Speaker 7: like there is an actual sacrifice, like a not an
22:33
Speaker 7: actual psyche, but a play of sacrificing somebody and a funeral,
22:37
Speaker 7: and you hear the eerie words of how he's talking,
22:41
Speaker 7: like you can just say, I know it's played off
22:44
Speaker 7: by some people's love.
22:45
Speaker 5: It's just a play man, you know.
22:46
Speaker 7: It's it's very creepy, it's very weird, and it shows
22:52
Speaker 7: through a time that it changed from like eighteen seventy eight.
22:56
Speaker 7: It began as a midsommer Hygiinks just like kind of
22:58
Speaker 7: like where that's I think where they get the drinking
23:00
Speaker 7: club aspect of it where they're just like, oh man,
23:02
Speaker 7: we just go drink and have some poetry jams and
23:05
Speaker 7: slams and stuff like that. And then in eighteen ninety
23:08
Speaker 7: three that Drew ad jink Jinks kind of like started
23:12
Speaker 7: the Christianity trumpering triumphing over paganism. And then that's when
23:17
Speaker 7: in eighteen I think it was nineteen oh four where
23:20
Speaker 7: they actually started the Spirit of Care, which ended up
23:23
Speaker 7: turning into the Cremation of Care, which it is now
23:27
Speaker 7: and now it's the focal point because it was actually
23:30
Speaker 7: like the second third act. It is now the focal
23:32
Speaker 7: point of Bohemian Grove when you go there and incredible footage,
23:37
Speaker 7: especially for the times, and a hidden camera right you know,
23:41
Speaker 7: as me complaining with a lot of the b roll,
23:43
Speaker 7: and you're just like, like, I actually watched this with
23:45
Speaker 7: my girlfriend, who was never you know, she had made
23:47
Speaker 7: she doesn't really think highly of Alex Jones, and but
23:50
Speaker 7: she's little conspiratorial and she's like, oh, complaining through the
23:54
Speaker 7: whole film, but when it actually gets to the cremation,
23:57
Speaker 7: she's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wha, what's this here?
24:00
Speaker 5: For a little bit and she was really intrigued. So
24:03
Speaker 5: to me, that is the meat and potatoes that makes
24:06
Speaker 5: this film.
24:08
Speaker 1: And man, I can go on like an hour long
24:10
Speaker 1: deep dive, and I won't right now, but about the
24:13
Speaker 1: Cremation of Care, And this is one of the complaints
24:15
Speaker 1: that maybe I have on Alex Jones, is he could
24:17
Speaker 1: have included some of this information and he kind of
24:20
Speaker 1: presents it that the very origins of the Bohemian Grove
24:23
Speaker 1: were this rejection of Judeo Christian ideals and that they
24:26
Speaker 1: were trying to revert back to paganism. It's a little
24:29
Speaker 1: bit more nuanced than Alex Jones said, And that sentence
24:34
Speaker 1: alone kind of explains itself, right, like, there's more nuanced
24:37
Speaker 1: than he's usually interested in getting involved in. And one
24:41
Speaker 1: of the interesting origins of Bohemian Grove was that it
24:44
Speaker 1: was a group of artists and performers and these creative
24:48
Speaker 1: types that essentially, just like now, you know, artists do
24:52
Speaker 1: not make as much money as industry, and usually even
24:55
Speaker 1: successful artists, they really make their money doing these commercial
24:58
Speaker 1: works for print houses or come you know, news companies
25:02
Speaker 1: and media conglomerates and what. And the origins of Bohemian
25:05
Speaker 1: Grove where these guys that were sick of working all
25:08
Speaker 1: year in this this corporate environment or working for these
25:11
Speaker 1: shops or other businessmen, and they would go and make
25:14
Speaker 1: this retreat off in the woods and say, hey, let's
25:16
Speaker 1: just go and make art and music and dance and
25:19
Speaker 1: stuff that we want to do without all this outside
25:22
Speaker 1: world influence. And that was the true origins of Bohemian Grove,
25:26
Speaker 1: where all these artists that wanted to go off into
25:28
Speaker 1: the woods and do their own thing. For a small
25:30
Speaker 1: little period of time, and that was why it was bohemian.
25:33
Speaker 1: It was kind of like against what, you know, what
25:35
Speaker 1: they were being hired and paid to do, which is
25:38
Speaker 1: not what they wanted to do with all their time.
25:40
Speaker 1: So they do this for long enough did they start
25:43
Speaker 1: running out of money because you know, they're broke artists
25:46
Speaker 1: that have to save up in order to throw. So
25:47
Speaker 1: at one point someone's like, hey, what if I invite
25:50
Speaker 1: my boss here, He'll fund the whole thing and then
25:53
Speaker 1: we can keep doing our play. And that happens. But
25:56
Speaker 1: what happens is that that boss has such a great time.
25:58
Speaker 1: He goes home from Bohemian Grove encampment and details all
26:02
Speaker 1: his other business partners and friends and he's like, guys,
26:05
Speaker 1: there's this awesome group I've found. You have to check
26:08
Speaker 1: it out. They come back the next year, they fund it,
26:11
Speaker 1: and then eventually the whole dynamic shifts to where now
26:15
Speaker 1: Bohemian Grove is owned by these business magnates and owned
26:18
Speaker 1: by these rich people, and they just hire the Bohemians,
26:22
Speaker 1: the original founders. They just hire them to come in
26:25
Speaker 1: and dance and like do artwork for them, and it's wild.
26:29
Speaker 1: This is kind of the whole entire sequence. And it
26:32
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily founded by you know, like like Ford and
26:37
Speaker 1: Edison and all these industry titans and Carnegie just to
26:42
Speaker 1: worship an owl for pagan rights. It was adopted the
26:45
Speaker 1: other way around. It was artists that made this thing,
26:48
Speaker 1: and then rich people were like, oh, what a nice
26:50
Speaker 1: thing you have.
26:51
Speaker 6: That's mine.
26:51
Speaker 1: Now I just purchased it, and they've literally just bought
26:54
Speaker 1: the entire area, and we're like, this is.
26:56
Speaker 5: Ours now, time stink or swim.
27:02
Speaker 6: One hundred percent swim man.
27:04
Speaker 1: This is one of the most important and influential documentaries
27:10
Speaker 1: in the conspiracy realm that I think I've ever seen.
27:12
Speaker 1: This one is right up there with Conspiracy Assylunce, But
27:15
Speaker 1: this one has the smoking gun footage. Imagine if every
27:20
Speaker 1: conspiracy documentary had some kind of smoking gun footage on
27:25
Speaker 1: par with what Alex Jones got here. And John Ronson,
27:29
Speaker 1: I want to give him his credit for actually making
27:31
Speaker 1: this happen.
27:33
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give it something a new term.
27:35
Speaker 7: I'm gonna give it a float, right because going back
27:37
Speaker 7: a lot of the information that you were talking about,
27:39
Speaker 7: I think this film could have been done better. The
27:41
Speaker 7: smoking gun is the main aspect because it doesn't sink.
27:44
Speaker 7: This is definitely something that everybody should watch, but it's
27:47
Speaker 7: a float because it could have been done way better.
27:50
Speaker 7: But that's just me being extra critique because this is
27:54
Speaker 7: a conspiracy cult classic, right, anybody that is a conspiratorial
27:58
Speaker 7: person unless you just like started down the rabbit hole,
28:02
Speaker 7: like in the last few years, everybody has watched this.
28:05
Speaker 5: I remember.
28:06
Speaker 7: This is just as loose change as something that we
28:08
Speaker 7: passed around of like oh man, and it's even has
28:12
Speaker 7: more of a lure as a teenager slash pre adult
28:17
Speaker 7: or whatever you want to call it in your twenties
28:19
Speaker 7: where you're like passing around a DVD or a VHS
28:23
Speaker 7: rather than like, oh here, here's the link, here's a website.
28:26
Speaker 7: You actually had to watch it with a group of people,
28:28
Speaker 7: and it actually gives it much more sensationalism for me
28:32
Speaker 7: when I watched it back then, Now again, I might
28:35
Speaker 7: be more critical. I wanted to not just go swim sink.
28:38
Speaker 7: I was like, let me call it a flow. A float.
28:40
Speaker 7: Now will be where we're like, it's good enough to
28:43
Speaker 7: suggest to somebody, but maybe it could have had some
28:46
Speaker 7: aspects done a little bit better.
28:49
Speaker 1: I can see that I could also see that they
28:51
Speaker 1: could re edit the footage that they got from this
28:54
Speaker 1: and you know, superimpose extra information on top of it
28:59
Speaker 1: and kind of re release this make this a whole
29:01
Speaker 1: thing again. So I mean, warts and all, though, man,
29:04
Speaker 1: this this is so damn influential. But yeah, you could
29:07
Speaker 1: also maybe skip to just the footage part, although at
29:10
Speaker 1: that point you don't maybe have the same level of
29:13
Speaker 1: context of how secretive this is. Even the people that
29:16
Speaker 1: said they'd worked there and lived in that area for
29:18
Speaker 1: years and heard all the rumors. He's like, do you
29:21
Speaker 1: know that they you know, burn human effigies there? And
29:24
Speaker 1: the way that he would phrase that, he would emphasize
29:26
Speaker 1: the human part and de emphasize the effigy part, and
29:29
Speaker 1: he always made it sound like, you know, they're burning
29:31
Speaker 1: humans there, and of course people are.
29:32
Speaker 6: Like, what.
29:42
Speaker 5: On the horizon?
29:44
Speaker 7: To switch speeds, we wanted to show you, guys, you know,
29:47
Speaker 7: traditional Alex Jones, I think, really his forgotten work because
29:53
Speaker 7: now you think of his Info Wars and like the
29:56
Speaker 7: Obama stuff and like, it was very difficult for me
30:00
Speaker 7: and you to pick which documentaries we wanted to pick,
30:03
Speaker 7: especially out of all of the list of stuff. So
30:05
Speaker 7: we wanted to pick traditional classic Alex Jones and now
30:09
Speaker 7: we're going to hit you with a detour, and we're
30:12
Speaker 7: going to hit you with the HBO Max documentary The
30:16
Speaker 7: Truth fors Alex Jones.
30:19
Speaker 1: And I think it's only fair too to go from
30:22
Speaker 1: his earliest work to him in you know, very late
30:26
Speaker 1: later on.
30:27
Speaker 6: In his career. He's on a new trajectory.
30:29
Speaker 1: Even now, even from since the end of this upcoming movie,
30:34
Speaker 1: he's on a totally different trajectory. But this one is
30:36
Speaker 1: another snapshot, and it's very much anti Alex Jones. So
30:41
Speaker 1: the entire thing is shot as like, this is this
30:44
Speaker 1: horrific sort of event that we need to prevent from
30:48
Speaker 1: ever happening. Let's punish this guy. So it's interesting to
30:51
Speaker 1: see from his point of view, and now here is
30:54
Speaker 1: sort of the establishment point of view of him.
30:58
Speaker 5: Well, it's about that time can retard.
31:01
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31:14
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31:17
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31:25
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31:26
Speaker 2: Dogs, Under the Dogs.
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