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War Zone LIVE! with Wayne Allyn Root 07-20-26 (Birthday Best-Of) · Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Warning!
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  Speaker 1: This is Wayne Allen Root, raw and unfiltered, but America's
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  Speaker 1: favorite conservative rock star, direct from the entertainment capital of
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  Speaker 1: the world, Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 3: What time is it? It's time for War!
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  Speaker 1: Here's your host, 100% raw truth, 100% American made, the warrior,
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  Speaker 1: Wayne Allen Root.
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  Speaker 2: All right, this is a happy interview. I am so
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  Speaker 2: happy for Tina Peters, former clerk in Mesa County, Colorado.
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  Speaker 2: You all know the story because I talked about it
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  Speaker 2: on this show week after week after week. One of
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  Speaker 2: the biggest travesties in the history of America, criminal justice, politics,
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  Speaker 2: you name it, travesty, disaster, like out of a Soviet gulag.
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  Speaker 2: She was a political prisoner. Tina was just released from
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  Speaker 2: prison on June 1st. after Colorado Governor Jared Polis granted
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  Speaker 2: her clemency. She's a 70-year-old Gold Star mom. I am
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  Speaker 2: so happy for you, Tina, that you are free.
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  Speaker 3: Thank God.
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  Speaker 2: Thank God. Thank God. And glad you're here.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, Wayne Allen Root. You stayed with me. I could,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I saw the people that stuck with me
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  Speaker 4: through this whole time. And It was an encouragement like
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  Speaker 4: you can't believe. Thank you so much. I'm very grateful.
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  Speaker 2: You served just under two years, what a travesty of justice,
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  Speaker 2: of a nine-year prison sentence. I haven't figured out yet
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  Speaker 2: what exactly you did wrong, but you were charged with
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  Speaker 2: nine felonies and five misdemeanors for your role in an
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  Speaker 2: election security breach of your office's voting equipment. Incredible. I
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  Speaker 2: see murderers let out on bail immediately. They wouldn't let
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  Speaker 2: you out on bail. I see people at rape. I
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  Speaker 2: see pedophiles that get one year in jail, six months
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  Speaker 2: in jail, one month in jail for the most heinous crimes.
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  Speaker 2: And they gave you nine years. It was so shocking
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  Speaker 2: and disgusting. And obviously, if I felt that way, I
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  Speaker 2: can't even imagine how you felt.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I was in with women that were very violent.
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  Speaker 4: There's only two women's prisons in Colorado. And so a
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  Speaker 4: minimum security prisoner like me should be in a minimum
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  Speaker 4: security prison. But there were overrides that because there is
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  Speaker 4: no bed space. There are so many in court. Colorado
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  Speaker 4: incarcerates more people than any other state in the United States.
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  Speaker 4: And with only two women's prisons, I was in with
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  Speaker 4: people that had killed their children, many people that had
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  Speaker 4: killed their children. I was in people for murder, for,
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  Speaker 4: you know, very, very violent crimes. I got to know them.
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  Speaker 4: I got to hear their stories. Some of them had
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  Speaker 4: been in there 30 years before. You know, I also
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  Speaker 4: got the, I guess the torment of many of them.
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  Speaker 4: And I never stopped really loving them, you know, as
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  Speaker 4: far as wanting to understand their story. And towards the
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  Speaker 4: end there, there were so many that were really appreciated, appreciative.
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  Speaker 4: They said, please, please don't forget us. And I promised
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: Um, You're a nice lady, Tina, let me tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Very nice lady. And I would guess they did like
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  Speaker 2: you by the end, other than the ones who attacked you,
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  Speaker 2: who probably were paid or offered some sort of benefit
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  Speaker 2: to attack you by the Democrat left so that they
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  Speaker 2: could charge you and keep you in prison. What's the
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  Speaker 2: truth about what you uncovered? Are you able to actually
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  Speaker 2: reveal the truth that the 2020 election was indeed stolen
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  Speaker 2: in Colorado and or nationwide with the same type of
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  Speaker 2: shenanigans they used in Colorado. Can you talk to that?
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  Speaker 4: Well, so I wrote two letters. I received so many letters.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. I'm just getting boxes of letters that they
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  Speaker 4: withheld from me while I was in prison. And finally,
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  Speaker 4: towards the end, I said, I know you have them.
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  Speaker 4: You need to give them to me. So after paying
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  Speaker 4: for postage for two big boxes, I received letters I
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  Speaker 4: want to say thank you. Thank you to everyone who
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  Speaker 4: supported me in that way, prayers and financially for my
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  Speaker 4: immensely expensive legal team. But it's worth it. It's very,
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  Speaker 4: very much worth it. And I appreciate that. So, you know,
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  Speaker 4: being in there and understanding that there was the the
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  Speaker 4: person who was actually deleting election records was one of
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  Speaker 4: the felonies. So there were actually four felonies, three misdemeanors
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  Speaker 4: that I was actually convicted on. And one of the
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  Speaker 4: felonies was this man who was sitting there in my
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  Speaker 4: office in front of me, deleting 29,000 vital election records
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  Speaker 4: of the 2020 election. And so that's a real tough,
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  Speaker 4: you know, a tough thing to swallow. But I wrote
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  Speaker 4: president Trump. I only wrote two letters because unlike what
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  Speaker 4: I thought prison was like, you, you're not just sitting
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  Speaker 4: there in a cell all day long doing nothing and
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  Speaker 4: just able to read volumes and volumes of books. They
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  Speaker 4: wake you up at five o'clock. I was usually up
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  Speaker 4: before that 5.00 AM. You have, you have, um, chow
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  Speaker 4: that you have five minutes to get dressed and get to,
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  Speaker 4: and it's clear across the campus, um, on the prison
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  Speaker 4: grounds and everything is regimented. You have a formal standing
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  Speaker 4: count where you have to stand up, show your ID
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  Speaker 4: three times a day where everything is locked down.
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  Speaker 5: But I.
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  Speaker 4: Wrote President Trump two letters. One of the letters was,
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  Speaker 4: I'm feeling really discouraged. It was two months before I
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  Speaker 4: was released. And I said, I'm feeling really discouraged because
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  Speaker 4: I think to myself, why did I do all this?
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  Speaker 4: Why did I risk everything, Wayne Allen, to bring out
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  Speaker 4: what we did and no one's talking about it? And
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  Speaker 4: I know that for many people.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I was talking about it.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I know. I was talking about it a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Or doing something about it. That was the frustration. We
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  Speaker 4: were all.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 2: They weren't doing anything.
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  Speaker 4: You guys were all talking about it.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 4: But what the images show is the before.
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  Speaker 4: And after of the election system and showed explicitly, undoubtedly proof,
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  Speaker 4: forensic images are proof, that 29,000 vital election records were deleted,
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  Speaker 4: that there were 36 wireless devices. There is no air gap, that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, all of this truth. And I said, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's discouraging to be in it. I understand being in
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  Speaker 4: here for what they say I did and trying to
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  Speaker 4: torment me by taking my husband, trying to take my house,
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  Speaker 4: you know, immense legal costs. And to me, worse than
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  Speaker 4: death is the deprivation of your liberty, you know, taking
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  Speaker 4: your liberty.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: But why? I mean, I'm looking at I'm looking on
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  Speaker 4: the TV at Mondami getting elected. I'm looking at Spanberger
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  Speaker 4: and I predicted all this stuff. I said, it's the machines.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you you've got you have. Of course, it
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  Speaker 4: was 51 percent. Of course, it was a close race.
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  Speaker 4: That's all in the algorithms. So my fight is not over.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I still am not free. I'm free to
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  Speaker 4: talk to you. I should have been free from the
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  Speaker 4: very beginning. I checked every box for bond on appeal,
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  Speaker 4: every single box. And they still would not release me
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  Speaker 4: here in Colorado.
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  Speaker 2: I'm out now.
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  Speaker 4: I'm under still, I have a three-year parole. So I'm
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  Speaker 4: still under the thumb of the Department of Corrections. But
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  Speaker 4: I'm able to do what we should have been able
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  Speaker 4: to do all along and have free speech and be out.
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  Speaker 4: They're very afraid of me. If you look at Jenna Griswold,
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  Speaker 4: she's running for the highest office attorney in the state
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  Speaker 4: of Colorado. And all she says in her ads are
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  Speaker 4: that she's against Trump and she put me in prison.
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  Speaker 4: You know, not saying what she's going to do for
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  Speaker 4: the people. And this is all about for the people.
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  Speaker 4: So I will keep sounding the alarm of getting the
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  Speaker 4: truth out. I was just at a fraud summit. And
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  Speaker 4: but people have all the information. Now we need to
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  Speaker 4: hear it come out.
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  Speaker 2: So what as we sum this interview up, we're running
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  Speaker 2: out of time. What can my fans do to actually
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  Speaker 2: help you, Tina?
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for that. I appreciate that. You know, any other, there's,
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  Speaker 4: as you can imagine, there's some grifters out there and
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  Speaker 4: that are trying to capitalize on this as people will do.
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  Speaker 4: um if they can go to my website tinapeters.us there's
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  Speaker 4: places to contribute there's places to uh to contact me
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  Speaker 4: if they want interviews there's um information videos the movie
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  Speaker 4: selection code things like that If they can continue because
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  Speaker 4: the fight's not over yet and I'm going to be
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  Speaker 4: going to Washington. I'm you know, I will still continue
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  Speaker 4: to expose the truth and to effect change. And I
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  Speaker 4: appreciate you being my voice. I'm very, very happy. You know,
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  Speaker 4: when a warrior goes, and I want people to be brave.
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  Speaker 4: If I have one thing to say to sum it up,
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  Speaker 4: I don't want people to look at me and say, well,
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  Speaker 4: look at what happened to Tina Peters. You know, when
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  Speaker 4: a warrior goes to war, he doesn't count the personal cost.
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  Speaker 4: The focus is on your oath and your mission. And
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  Speaker 4: I took an oath to not just the Colorado Constitution,
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  Speaker 4: but I took an oath to the Constitution of the
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  Speaker 4: United States. That's to protect every right that we have,
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  Speaker 4: free speech, the right to keep and bear arms, the
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  Speaker 4: right to redress your government. But the foundation of all
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  Speaker 4: of this, all of this is the elections. We wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: be seeing the people that cross the border. We wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: see what Tulsi Gabbard's bringing out right now about Fauci.
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  Speaker 4: None of this would be happening. We wouldn't see these
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  Speaker 4: people elected to Congress and governors and mayors in the
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  Speaker 4: largest cities in the United States. We're talking New York City, L.A.,
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  Speaker 4: largest cities in the United States. The people did not
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  Speaker 4: elect them, and it all stems from our elections. So
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  Speaker 4: continue to support them.
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  Speaker 2: Tina, everything you do is amazing, and everything you're saying
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  Speaker 2: is amazing. You're a hero. You're a warrior. You're a patriot.
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  Speaker 2: You're a great American, and I appreciate everything you've done,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm glad I could help in some small way.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. God bless you, and I'm so glad you're free.
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  Speaker 4: God bless you, Wayne Allen Root. You are amazing. You
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  Speaker 4: are amazing. Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: We'll be right back.
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  Speaker 2: All right. I'm joined by Kip Herridge, my old buddy
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  Speaker 2: and an economic expert CEO. A vertical research advisory is
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  Speaker 2: VRA has beaten the market in 19 of the last
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  Speaker 2: 22 years. since Kip founded the VRA in 2003. Over
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  Speaker 2: the last three years, VRA had an average gain of 37%. Kip,
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  Speaker 2: congratulations on your success. I've seen it firsthand for over
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  Speaker 2: 22 years. I've read your newsletter for the last 22
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  Speaker 2: plus years. You're my personal financial expert. How do you
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  Speaker 2: guys keep beating the markets almost every year when 90%
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  Speaker 2: of Wall Street money managers fail to do so?
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  Speaker 6: Well, thanks, Wayne.
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  Speaker 8: You know, I worked in that environment 15 years, worked
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  Speaker 8: at Wall Street 15 years, helped take seven companies public,
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  Speaker 8: raised and managed several hundred million dollars. And I know
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  Speaker 8: how the group think of Wall Street works, and that's
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  Speaker 8: not how.
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  Speaker 6: People make money. 90% of money managers, as you say,
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  Speaker 6: don't beat the markets every year. We do.
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  Speaker 8: And the reason really is I had great mentors that
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  Speaker 6: Tells us when to be in the market, when to
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  Speaker 6: be out.
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  Speaker 8: When to be aggressive, and when to take some profits.
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  Speaker 8: It takes money to cash. And that helps us with
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  Speaker 8: our sector selection. Again, market timing, those are real keys.
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  Speaker 8: And we also love doing individual stock research. So that's
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  Speaker 8: where you put our clients and subscribers into and get ETFs,
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  Speaker 8: individual stocks, And we also love Bitcoin and gold, as
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  Speaker 8: you know, and silver. In 2003, I recommended gold at
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  Speaker 8: $ 350 an ounce, silver.
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  Speaker 5: At $ 5.
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  Speaker 8: We recommended Bitcoin at $ 2, 000 in 2017. And combined with
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  Speaker 8: Fifth and sixth generation native Texans, and we love what
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  Speaker 8: we do here in Texas.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm a witness to all of it. I've been
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  Speaker 2: there for all of it. There's a lot of fear
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  Speaker 2: out there today, Kip. What should investors know about the
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  Speaker 2: stock market right now?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you've got to be in this market. That's what
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  Speaker 6: investors should know. Look, volatility is the price of ambition.
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  Speaker 6: It just is. It comes with the territory. But these
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  Speaker 6: dips give us great buying opportunities.
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  Speaker 8: Look, we've been the most bullish market strategist in America
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  Speaker 8: for the last four years.
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  Speaker 8: Innovation revolution meets the Trump economic miracle meets an absolute
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  Speaker 8: ocean of liquidity.
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  Speaker 6: Those are our big three.
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  Speaker 8: Again, Trump's economic miracle this year is really going to
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  Speaker 8: start paying its dues.
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  Speaker 6: We expect GDP growth to hit 5% this year.
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  Speaker 8: We expect the markets to— we think the simple market runs
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  Speaker 8: into the 2030s.
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  Speaker 5: All right, everyone.
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  Speaker 2: thank you.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you, Wayne.
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  Speaker 2: All right, swaying on the root, the root, the root,
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  Speaker 2: the root is on fire. We've got a great guest,
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  Speaker 2: Dean Cain, actor, producer, filmmaker, starred in many Hollywood films,
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  Speaker 2: many TV shows, including the role of Superman in the
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  Speaker 2: TV series Lois and Clark, The New Adventures of Superman.
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  Speaker 2: Dean Cain, welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 3: How are you?
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  Speaker 5: I'm wonderful.
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  Speaker 9: Wayne.
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  Speaker 5: Good to see you, my friend. I hope you brushed
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  Speaker 5: up on your, your, your lawyer-ness for tomorrow. So that
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  Speaker 5: should be a lot of fun. I look forward to that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm kind of like, I'm kind of like an
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  Speaker 2: actor who doesn't read his lines before he walks out
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  Speaker 2: on the set. I have no time. So I'm just
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  Speaker 2: going to walk out and wing it. I haven't done
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  Speaker 2: one thing to be honest with you, but I could
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  Speaker 2: make an argument in my sleep against illegal immigration. It's insanity.
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  Speaker 2: I opened the show today, Dean, with like 10 straight
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  Speaker 2: stories about, about illegal aliens raping and murdering and trying
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  Speaker 2: to murder cops and Democrats defending them and trying to
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  Speaker 2: make sure they're not deported out of our country. Don't
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  Speaker 2: you find that just insane? It's one thing to say, listen,
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  Speaker 2: I want to deport all of them. I really do.
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  Speaker 2: If you break into our country, I want to get
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  Speaker 2: rid of everyone. But I can at least understand the argument.
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  Speaker 2: If you're a nice person, you're naive, and you say,
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  Speaker 2: that man has been here 20 years, and he's been
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  Speaker 2: a good person, and he's worked hard. I don't want
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  Speaker 2: you going after him. I'll have that debate with you,
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  Speaker 2: but at least I can understand your side. But the
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  Speaker 2: fact that Democrats defend people that are rapist murderers and
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  Speaker 2: pedophiles who rape little children, and they seem to be
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  Speaker 2: like it's the most important thing in the world to
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  Speaker 2: not allow them to be deported, or to be sent
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  Speaker 2: to jail is just beyond my ability to understand.
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  Speaker 5: I can't explain it in any way, shape, or form.
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't make any sense to me. Like any other
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  Speaker 5: country on the planet, we have the right to enforce
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  Speaker 5: our borders. And that's what ICE means, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Now,
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  Speaker 5: if someone breaks in here and said, that guy who's
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  Speaker 5: been here 20, 30 years, They have had multiple opportunities
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  Speaker 5: to make themselves legal, and they haven't taken that step.
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  Speaker 5: So that's the problem right there. I mean, I've had
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  Speaker 5: a home in Spain for 20-plus years. I follow their
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  Speaker 5: immigration laws. Every time I travel or work in Canada
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  Speaker 5: or Mexico or Europe or anyplace else, I follow all
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  Speaker 5: of their immigration laws, and it's an easy thing to do.
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  Speaker 5: People here have just taken advantage of the system. The
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  Speaker 5: Democrats want the voting base, and they want to give
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  Speaker 5: them— free things to get their votes. And they want
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  Speaker 5: to legalize everybody who's here illegally in order to have
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  Speaker 5: a larger number of people for apportionment for Congress. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: so it's real straightforward, but it's not safe for the
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  Speaker 5: American people. It's against the law. And if they don't
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  Speaker 5: like the way that the laws are written, they change
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  Speaker 5: the law. Congressmen and women.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Change the law. But you have no right to break it.
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  Speaker 2: You have no right to break it. And not only
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  Speaker 2: do your legals, Dean, not have a right to break it,
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  Speaker 2: But no politician. See, here's Trump's failing. I love Trump.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't understand why he's not arresting people like
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  Speaker 2: Mondami and Karen Bass. When a mayor says, I will
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  Speaker 2: not allow ICE in my city. And if they come
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  Speaker 2: in my city, I will warn ICE they're coming. And
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  Speaker 2: I will actively defend. You don't need to comply with
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  Speaker 2: federal immigration law. Really? That makes you a criminal. You're
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  Speaker 2: a criminal. You're aiding and abetting ICE. Criminal actions and
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  Speaker 2: you're refusing, that's an insurrection, refusing the laws of the
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  Speaker 2: federal government of the United States. So we should be
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  Speaker 2: arresting those politicians to set an example.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know what the DOJ's take is on that.
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  Speaker 5: I recently sat down with our acting attorney general, hopefully
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  Speaker 5: be soon the full attorney general, Todd Blanch. I would
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: like to ask him that question. I guess I should
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: have talked to you before I sat down with him
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: because I don't know the answer. I don't understand that.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: It doesn't make sense. Here's federal law. We have— the
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: supremacy clause. Of course, you know, whether it's a constitutional question,
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: whether the state's rights allow them to do that, I
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: don't know the answer, but it seems insane. And it's
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: against the security, the national security of the United States
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: of America.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: You would have made a good lawyer as well. You're
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: a good talker, but you're probably like me, right? I
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: went to school and I got straight A's, but never studied,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: never cracked a book. I'm just not the type, right?
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to spend three years in law school.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I went to Columbia University and I said, I can't
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: wait to get out. And I canceled my idea of
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: going to law school because I just couldn't even stomach
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: another minute in a classroom with these boring professors. Oh,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: my God. It was like getting your teeth pulled sitting
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: in a classroom at Columbia for a guy like me.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Other kids loved it. But for me, I was like
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: calling my bookmaker instead of going to class. It's just–
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I wasn't cut out to be a student, a studier,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: you know? Because you could have been a lawyer. You're
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: a smart guy. I bet you didn't like classrooms either, right?
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: Didn't love it. I'm a Princeton guy. I graduated from Princeton.
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: But I didn't– when I got there, I was actually–
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: I was shocked at how sort of behind I was.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: But by the time I was a senior, I was cruising,
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: cruising through. So it was a little more difficult for
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: me coming from a public high school in Santa Monica.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: Malibu kid, you know, and I was the first, I
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: was the first kid from the, from the football team
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: that ever went to the Ivy league. We had some
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: other guys that could have done it, but I'm the
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: first one to have done so, but I didn't love class, man.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: I was so happy to get out of college and
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: be done with that and get out in the world
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: and sort of, you know, find my way, which I'm
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: still finding at the ripe old age.
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I have a feeling that you had a very similar
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: college career to mine. I was going out every night
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: to Studio 54. That was my Columbia time. I was
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: calling bookmakers during the day, betting on football games. And
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I was going to Studio 54 and Xenon at night.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure your career was not much different at Princeton.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: It has not worked out for either one of us.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: But here's the deal. I believe, if I'm not mistaken,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: you're going to be very proud of me that I
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: know this. I believe you're the all-time leader in interceptions
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: in a season in the history of Princeton, the Ivy Leagues.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: And I think you're like tied for the all-time number
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: in the history of the NCAA or something like that, right?
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Well, actually, yeah. For Princeton and the Ivy League, for sure.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: And for a long time, for 13 years, I held
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: the interception record in a single season for a player,
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: which was 12 in my senior year. But I did
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: it in 10 games. So what I do have, I
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: still hold two NCAA records, which are per game of averages.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: Per game average for a season, 1.2. And per game
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: average for a career, I had 22 in 30 games.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: So I liked it, but I like to pick off
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: passes and I learned team and tackles. And so I was,
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: I was a very active free safety. It's why I
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: got my shot to go play for these guys, the
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: Buffalo bills. And unfortunately that ended a little bit too early,
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: like early, early. Like I could have had, if we
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: talk for 10 more minutes on this call on this,
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: on this interview here, I'll that's about how much time
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: I got to spend in Buffalo.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Did you get hurt, by the way, when you were
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: with the Buffalo Bills? The injury ended your career? Is
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: that what happened?
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: It was a knee. And I didn't think that was
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: the end. I thought I was coming back. And my
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: rookie year, we lost the AFC Championship. I was a
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: rookie with Thurman Thomas. And so we had, you know,
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: Jim Kelly, Bruce Smith, Daryl Talley. You know, we had
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: all these great, unbelievable players. And Andre Reid. And that
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: was the time. So if I'd have played for five years,
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: I would have seen four Super Bowls. And I love
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: to believe... You.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Would have won a couple of them with you?
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: And I made the squad.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: There you go. I'm a big Dallas Cowboy fan, by
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: the way. I've been for, you know, since I'm five
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: years old. So I've been a Dallas Cowboy fan for
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: over half a century. And we beat the Bills in
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: two of those four Super Bowls pretty badly.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you weren't on the Bills. Yeah, that would
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: have hurt.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: But Jason Garrett is one of my real close friends.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: He was my quarterback in college, and he ended up
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: playing for the Cowboys for a long time.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I missed that name.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Who was it?
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Jason Garrett. Oh, Jason Garrett. Oh, yeah, that's right. Princeton. Right.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: He was a great act, too. Smart guy. Very good.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Smart guy. Great guy. Because I'm a Cowboy fan my
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: whole life, I remember the few times he came in,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: and he did fantastic every time as a backup when
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: there was an injury. And I believe one of those
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: was a big National Thanksgiving game, and he had a
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: great game through a winning touchdown, I think, against someone,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: probably the Redskins, but I know... Well, now they're the commanders,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: but in those days, they were the Redskins.
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: They should be the Redskins.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: They're always the Redskins, Wayne.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: So you served as an honorary ICE officer. How did
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: that come about, and what was that experience like?
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: Well, I'm a sworn deputy sheriff and have been for
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: close to a decade now in Frederick County, Virginia. I'm
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: a reserve police officer in Pocatello, Idaho. I joined those
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: forces because it was during the defund the police time,
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: and people are always picking on the police, and I'm like,
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: the police are heroes. These— you know, are there bad instances? Yeah,
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: there are. Can there be bad contact with police officers?
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: And that's the outlier, and it happens, and there's a
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: way to rectify that. But calling these people, you know,
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: Nazis and Gestapo and things of that nature and going
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: against the police at the time, I thought that was insane.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: So— excuse me. So I joined the police.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Forced.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: I became a deputy sheriff. I became a reserve police officer.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden, this thing came up
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: with ICE, where everybody was going after ICE and saying
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: how awful and terrible, and they're Nazi, and they're Gestapo.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: And I was like, this is insane. So I joined
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: as an honorary ICE officer. I went through a lot
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: of the training. I haven't finished my training. Todd Lyons,
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: Director Lyons, who was the head of ICE, retired at
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: the end of July, or end of June, maybe May.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: I don't know what it was, maybe May, the end
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: of May. And so I need to finish, I want
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: to finish up all of my training, and I want
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: to become a full-fledged ICE agent. I think that's important.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: I think it's important to stand with these men and
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: women who protect us every single day and enforce the law.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: And calling ICE agents, Gestapo, I want to put a,
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: I'm not a Nazi. I don't wish ill will on anybody.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: I'm a nice person.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I root for.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: People to do well. I would help you you know,
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: get out of your car or get up or any
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: of those things. But if there's a bad person there
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: and they've broken the law, I'm going to be one
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: of those people who try to enforce the law. These
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: people are heroes. I'm proud to stand shoulder to shoulder
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: with them every single day.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: You and I are like carbon copies, my friend. We're
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: like the same person. And by the way, I spent
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: 13 years in Malibu. I lived in right above. It
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: was in the Trankas area. And at the very top
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: of Trankas is the Maharaji of India. His mansion.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: And I was right next to my home overlooked. And
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: when his helicopter pad, the only legal residential helicopter pad
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: in all of Los Angeles County. I was allowed to
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: take off and write like maybe two, three times a week.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: I'd hear this wild noise. My whole house would shake.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: It was the Maharaji's helicopter taking off right next to
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: my house. And it was the most majestic thing. It
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: was amazing. But I spent a lot of time in
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Malibu and and I'm glad I left because Dean in
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: the in the 24 years I've been gone, I've been
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: in Vegas 24 years. Both houses I lived in in
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Malibu have since burned to the ground. So it's lucky
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I didn't stay because my house would be gone and
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: my life would be dramatically changed.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Well, you'd have a lot less money too because all
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: of your money would be paid in taxes.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: And the other thing you and I have in common
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: is you moved to Vegas from Malibu and that's what
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I did all those years ago. I did it three.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: Years ago, and it was the smartest move I ever made.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: I wish we were talking about this 20 years ago.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: I might have zipped out earlier. But I'm happy being
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: in Vegas, love Nevada's laws and what's going on here.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: So I'm extremely happy to be here with you, my friend.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Think of all the money I saved in 24 years
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: of that ridiculous taxes in California. And, Dean, tell them all,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: where do those high taxes go? Why do you need
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: such high taxes in California? Because of all the illegal aliens.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: A hundred percent. And all the, you know, homelessness there
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: is a, and the NGOs that do things there, homelessness,
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: you know, you know, welfare state, all those things, Medicare.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Climate change.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Everybody.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Climate change.
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: It's just drifters. And guys like Gavin Newsom are absolutely
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: reaching in everybody's pockets. And putting everything through a nongovernmental organization,
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: whether or not it's, you know, attached to his wife's,
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: you know, new NGO or whatever it is. I mean,
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: they're just fleecing the American people. There's no reason for
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: all that madness out there. Half of the United States
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: homeless population, I think, is in. is in California, which
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: is because they encourage it. Pay people to be there.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: They pay them to give them money, our money, our
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: tax money. And they pay them. There's a reason that
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: California went from a $ 95 billion surplus or something like
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: that to absolutely huge deficit. And there's a reason that
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: Gavin Newsom is doing just fine. And his wife is
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: doing just fine. It's a terrible thing. Please do not
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: California our United States. I'll do anything I can to
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: stop that from happening.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: And don't don't California, Kate, Nevada and the guy running
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: for governor is my buddy, Governor Joe Lombardo. He is
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: the president governor running for reelection. He's great. Who's running
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: against them? I think he pronounced it Aaron, Aaron Ford, Aaron.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: He gets mad when you call him Aaron, Aaron Ford.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: And this guy is such a commie loser. that I
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: heard today Newsom is in Vegas endorsing Aaron Ford. And
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: so Governor Newsom is here trying to California-cate Nevada. He's
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: not happy he's ruined California enough. Him and his wife
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: together are under a federal investigation, and I'm sure there's
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: a good reason for it because I'm sure they stole
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of NGO money. But again, it's an opinion show,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: just my opinion. Last but not least, what do you
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: think of the job that President Trump has done?
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: I would give him an A +. I love what
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: he has done. And I was on a show yesterday
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: where somebody was picking on me and going after everything.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: Is he a convicted, sexually liable, blah, blah, all this
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: crazy stuff. And has he turned around the economy?
• 29:23
  Speaker 9: Has he done all this?
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: Has he done no new wars, blah, blah, blah? I
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: believe President Trump is.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: I love this country. And if you cut me open,
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: I'd bleed red, white, and blue. The same as Secretary
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: Hegseth and the same as President Trump. President Trump is
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: a patriot. He loves this country. like very few. And
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: I think when you have a tanker, which is the
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: United States, moving down a waterway, it takes a minute
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: to turn it around. I think we were in big,
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: big trouble under the prior administration. Biden's administration is the
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: worst I've ever seen ever. And I think we were
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: in huge trouble. It's going to take a minute to
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: turn that tanker around. And President Trump is having a
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: fight with Congress. fight with some of his own rhinos
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: and things like that to get things done. But I
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: truly believe he's been playing 3-D chess. I love what
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: he's doing in Iran. Clean it out. Finish the job, please.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: And maybe there'll be peace in the Middle East. And
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: I'd love to see the midterms go towards the Republicans,
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: because if he has that happen, we will be in
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: the golden age of the United States of America.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: So when I was– again, you and I are like
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: two peas in a pod. When I was younger, I
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: was in my 20s, I was a big-time potential game
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: show host in Los Angeles. And I was picked by
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: ABC and Merrill Heater, who was the biggest game show
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: producer in the city, to be the new host of Gambit.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: And they found out that I was a Republican because
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: I held a fundraiser at my Malibu home. for the
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Republican National Congressional Committee, and it made the front pages,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: I think, of the Malibu paper, and I think it
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: also made the LA Times, and all of a sudden
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: my agent dropped me, and ABC did not pick up
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: the pilot, and Merrill Heater never called me again, and
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I lost my entire career. So I want to know
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: how it works out with you, because Hollywood's worse now
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: than it ever was then. How do you keep a
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: career going, Dean, in Hollywood, while being a conservative MAGA
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: guy who's pro-ICE and pro-Trump?
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: It doesn't make me popular with some of the producers
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: out there, but I think, again, times are changing because
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: all this woke garbage that Hollywood's been putting out is
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: dying on the vine, and it's costing them hundreds of
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: millions of dollars. And I think that at the end
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: of the day, it's a business, and people are going
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: to go, no, I don't like this. David Ellison will
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: be taking over Paramount. I love that. And maybe even
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: Warner Brothers. I'd like to see some of this woke
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: slop stop getting made. I'd love to see more shows like,
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: you know, or more films, big blockbusters like Top Gun Maverick.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: Things like that. I'd love to see that happen. For me,
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: you know, Hollywood doesn't tell you to your face that
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: I won't hire you because I think you're conservative and
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: you know, support the police, which is crazy because every
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: third show is a cop show.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: You know, they won't say that to your face. They'll
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: stab you in the back. Although my agent recently did
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: just tell me, you know, that there was something there
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: I was up for. And they were like that, Dean Cain,
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: no way. That guy's, you know, the crazy mega right.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: wing insane person.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: What is insane about loving the United States, supporting our
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: law enforcement? I root for everybody. I want everybody to
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: do well. And I gave a speech yesterday at Freedom
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: Fest about what I think the American way is and
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: put it out there pretty straightforwardly. And I think that
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: that's true. I think America is the best country ever.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: We have the most freedom. We're the most giving. We're
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: the strongest nation. We have the that, that, that frontiersman rugged,
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: never say die attitude. And we also think that we're
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: going to win because we believe in what we're doing.
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: I do believe that there's a.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: Lot of providence from God that protects the people here
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: and allows us our freedoms. When you look at, and
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: when you travel outside of the United States, that's, that's
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: one of the biggest ways you can try to do
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: business outside the United States. You start to understand how
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: we are the great, we're not perfect, but but we
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: are the greatest nation on earth and we're always striving
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: for a more perfect union.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: And part of that is.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: Having these conversations with people we disagree with and they
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: don't do that enough. And then I put out my content.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: I do a lot of Christian faith-based movies. I just
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: directed two this last year, produced, directed, wrote, starred in them.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: They're going to be coming out this year. I'm just
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: finishing up those projects now. Just shot another movie in Texas.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: I keep working despite the blacklist, despite all this happening.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: And I think I'll be able to beat this this
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: term when people don't ask you about your politics when
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: they're trying to hire you for a film. They just
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: look at you and look at your talent and say,
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: maybe are they the right person or the wrong person?
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: Or I'll create it myself, my friend.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: You know who you remind me of? A very good
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: friend of mine, Kevin Sorbo. And he's very much politically
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: like you and does his own movies. Can't get movies
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: in Hollywood anymore, but he makes his own and he's
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: doing very well. Their movies are doing fantastic. They're mostly
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Christian themed. Kevin and his wife, Sam, really good friends
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: of mine. And he's a regular guest on my show,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: just as you are. So, uh, Kevin, do you know Kevin?
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Are you friends?
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: So one of the films I just finished was called
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: Holy One. It's about a guy who was going down
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: the wrong path, completely gambling, drinking, womanizing. And then he
• 34:15
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• 34:18
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• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Of a way.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: And then he gets a little help and becomes this
• 34:23
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• 34:26
  Speaker 5: stars in it. And Sam Sorbo, she plays his wife
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: in it. And it's a beautiful, fun film called Holy
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: One that I'll be finishing probably in the next 30 days.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: So you guys are friends now.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Very good. You guys are friends now.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: We have been forever. In fact, when we came out
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: of Superman, there was two of us left. The final
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: two people, myself and Kevin Sorbo. So I went on
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: to play Superman. He went off to play Hercules.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Hercules, right. Hercules and Superman. I love it.
• 34:52
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I will see you tomorrow at Freedom Fest. You're my
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: star witness. Remind me when I see you because my
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: birthday is coming up and I got a big party.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: And guess who sent a letter to be read out
• 35:02
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• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Trump.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: It's the most beautiful letter. Remind me to show you
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: the letter. You're going to get a kick out of it.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: And he hand wrote some of it at the bottom.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: He is just an unbelievable guy. And I agree with you.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: A plus, A plus. He's doing a great job. Thank you, Kevin.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Kevin. See, Kevin Sorbo's on my mind now.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Dean. Thank you, Dean Cain. Superman, I'll see
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: you tomorrow at the trial at Freedom Fest.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Wayne.
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: God bless.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: See you tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: I've got a guest on now, Wayne Barnes. Another Wayne.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Welcome to the other Wayne. Wayne Barnes, 29-year FBI counterintelligence agent.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Let's first say hi to Wayne.
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  Speaker 5: Wayne, how are you?
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: It's Wayne.
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  Speaker 10: I'm doing very well. I'm doing really well, Wayne. My name, Wayne,
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: has gone well through life. I've really enjoyed having it.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Two Waynes. Two Waynes. And the third Wayne is Wayne Newton.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: So now we've got three Waynes in Las Vegas. On
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: June 3rd, the FBI and MI5 and three other allied
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: services issued a joint warning. Chinese military intelligence is running
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: active recruitment campaigns through LinkedIn, posing as think tanks and consultancies.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: to target clearance holders. So let me tell you, as
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: a person who studies politics 25 hours a day and
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: thinks he's a smart guy, Wayne, I have no idea
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: what this says. I don't even know what that means.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: What the hell is a clearance holder? I don't even
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: know what you're talking about. Tell me in layman's terms
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: what the hell's going on.
• 39:18
  Speaker 10: When you're in the federal government, if you have a clearance,
• 39:21
  Speaker 10: and many, many thousands of people do have clearances, tens
• 39:24
  Speaker 10: of thousands, it means you've passed a background check. They've
• 39:27
  Speaker 10: interviewed your neighbors, your relatives. They've done your background. They
• 39:29
  Speaker 10: look for your online information. And they determine if you,
• 39:33
  Speaker 10: in fact, are a security risk so that you can
• 39:37
  Speaker 10: learn our nation's secrets. In the FBI, everyone has a
• 39:40
  Speaker 10: top-secret security clearance. But also, we have individuals who are
• 39:43
  Speaker 10: defense contractors— You're a naval architect working on the new
• 39:46
  Speaker 10: design for a submarine or the new plane wing for
• 39:50
  Speaker 10: the B-2 bomber. All these people have clearances while they're
• 39:53
  Speaker 10: not in the federal government per se. So, there are
• 39:55
  Speaker 10: really tens of thousands of people who have clearances. So,
• 39:58
  Speaker 10: what this organization was doing, what the Chinese were doing,
• 40:01
  Speaker 10: was they were using a typical American website, LinkedIn or
• 40:05
  Speaker 10: others similar to it, and they were posting employment for
• 40:09
  Speaker 10: people who had the skill sets to have those jobs completed.
• 40:13
  Speaker 9: Which would require government clearances.
• 40:15
  Speaker 10: Of course, in England, there's an Official Secrets Act where
• 40:18
  Speaker 10: you sign something on a dotted line. When you leave
• 40:20
  Speaker 10: a government job or when you leave the FBI and
• 40:22
  Speaker 10: if you had a clearance, there's also a document. It's
• 40:24
  Speaker 10: not so high and mighty sort of a name, but
• 40:26
  Speaker 10: it's a very specific document, which indicates that secrets you have,
• 40:30
  Speaker 10: things you know, will remain with you.
• 40:31
  Speaker 9: You won't give them to others.
• 40:33
  Speaker 10: So, if someone is either fired from a job or
• 40:35
  Speaker 10: just decides to leave or moves and hasn't got a position,
• 40:38
  Speaker 10: but they used to have a clearance, What it looks
• 40:40
  Speaker 10: like the Chinese are aiming at are those kind of
• 40:42
  Speaker 10: people involved in the tech world where they've got clearances
• 40:45
  Speaker 10: and technology skill. The difficulty is they're pitching people in
• 40:50
  Speaker 10: this effort to get their knowledge, their secrets, in a
• 40:53
  Speaker 10: very cold way. That is to say, at one point,
• 40:57
  Speaker 10: they have to say, well, show us examples of things
• 40:59
  Speaker 10: you've written, saying what your skill set is in your
• 41:01
  Speaker 10: particular field. And at that point, they fail. should say, well,
• 41:06
  Speaker 10: everything I've written in the past five years was classified
• 41:09
  Speaker 10: for the federal government. But some, right, or secret or
• 41:12
  Speaker 10: top secret or compartmented something. So at one point they
• 41:16
  Speaker 10: may say, well, listen, I'm stuck here in Portland, Oregon.
• 41:19
  Speaker 10: I moved here to be with my wife's family. I
• 41:22
  Speaker 10: don't have a job. I got to get a job.
• 41:24
  Speaker 10: Maybe I just give them one of these papers I
• 41:25
  Speaker 10: had so they see my skill in writing.
• 41:27
  Speaker 9: And that's the kind of thing they're looking for.
• 41:29
  Speaker 10: But the weakness in that from the other side is
• 41:32
  Speaker 10: that if you give someone your secret or if you
• 41:35
  Speaker 10: realize that's what they want, you report this to your
• 41:38
  Speaker 10: local FBI office or the security officer in the last
• 41:40
  Speaker 10: place where you worked if you're a defense contractor, and
• 41:43
  Speaker 10: that person will put out the alert. They'll say, hey,
• 41:46
  Speaker 10: all you people who are leaving your positions now, whether
• 41:48
  Speaker 10: you're leaving them or looking to leave the position, be
• 41:50
  Speaker 10: aware this is out there. So it could only work
• 41:52
  Speaker 10: maybe one or two times unless someone is really against
• 41:56
  Speaker 10: the U.S., And it can be shut down by having
• 41:59
  Speaker 10: not noticed that just like came out. But enough people
• 42:02
  Speaker 10: did it or happened. It happened to them where they
• 42:04
  Speaker 10: were pitched this way that it became known. So all
• 42:07
  Speaker 10: the effort, all the time they put into it. I
• 42:09
  Speaker 10: don't know how much it succeeded, but.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the problem.
• 42:13
  Speaker 9: That was the plan.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Here's the problem I see as a common sense guy.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: There's there's. Several things. Number one, most people need money.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: And if you leave the government, you don't have the
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: job anymore. You really need money. So they become desperate.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: And number two, based on everything I've learned in the
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: last 10 years with Donald Trump as president, multiple times,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: almost the whole government is against him. They're all communists.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's amazing. I mean, I know it's not
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: 100 percent, but it must be like some very high number.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: that are communists and traitors and willing to sell out
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: the United States. They hate the country. They hate capitalism.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: They hate people in private industry. They hate people like
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: me who are entrepreneurs, who make money. They hate successful people,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: many of them. Nowadays, it seems like they all hate
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Jews for being Jewish. I mean, it's just crazy how
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: bad the liberal left is, and it seems like everyone
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: in the government is part of the liberal left and
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: the deep state and the D.C. swamp. So when they
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: put ads like that out, it seems to me there's
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: a high level of probability they're going to find people
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: who are willing to play ball.
• 43:14
  Speaker 10: Well, you know the term fishing expedition. This is, from
• 43:16
  Speaker 10: their side, really a fishing expedition. It's not like you're
• 43:19
  Speaker 10: looking for a search warrant, anything in the house you
• 43:21
  Speaker 10: think might be of interest. You have to name it specifically.
• 43:24
  Speaker 10: Their fishing expedition is going to these people, the kind
• 43:27
  Speaker 10: you mentioned.
• 43:28
  Speaker 9: Some people leave America and go to Ireland.
• 43:30
  Speaker 10: Others leave the job because they just don't want to
• 43:32
  Speaker 10: work for the government or for the president. But most
• 43:34
  Speaker 10: people who are loyal Americans who have the clearance and
• 43:37
  Speaker 10: work for the federal government, it's their job to do
• 43:39
  Speaker 10: their job and also to keep the secrets once they leave.
• 43:42
  Speaker 10: And I know they find out or they realize that
• 43:44
  Speaker 10: if they give away secrets, they can be convicted of espionage,
• 43:48
  Speaker 10: providing someone information covertly or overtly as much as you
• 43:52
  Speaker 10: can to get whatever money you want. But it's the
• 43:55
  Speaker 10: only crime mentioned in the U.S. Constitution where it has
• 43:59
  Speaker 10: a death penalty to go along with it.
• 44:01
  Speaker 9: That's espionage. And that's what they'd be committing.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: All right, so we're talking to Wayne Barnes, 29-year FBI
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: counterintelligence agent. Now, Wayne, you use the same playbook to
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: turn sources yourself. In other words, to turn foreign sources
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: into American spies who are spying on our behalf. Is
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: that correct?
• 44:22
  Speaker 10: Hopefully, I'd like to say my efforts were much more
• 44:24
  Speaker 10: sophisticated than a fishing expedition through LinkedIn.
• 44:28
  Speaker 9: They were more sophisticated.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: But you did turn people. But you did turn people
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: for a living, so you understand how it's done.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Right, yes.
• 44:35
  Speaker 10: No, we use the term recruit.
• 44:37
  Speaker 9: You recruit an individual.
• 44:39
  Speaker 10: And if you have a Soviet during the Cold War,
• 44:41
  Speaker 10: a KGB officer, and he decides to defect to the West,
• 44:45
  Speaker 10: and we know that that's the case, maybe he's in
• 44:47
  Speaker 10: trouble at home, we like to find him, befriend him,
• 44:51
  Speaker 10: recruit him, and understand what his difficulty is. And instead
• 44:54
  Speaker 10: of having him leave the country and come out as
• 44:56
  Speaker 10: an open defector, we like to turn him around and
• 44:59
  Speaker 10: send him back. Or if he's in the Soviet embassy
• 45:01
  Speaker 10: in Washington— We like to have him just stay in
• 45:04
  Speaker 10: place as long as he can, as long as it's
• 45:05
  Speaker 10: safe for him. So that's a recruitment in place. We'd
• 45:09
  Speaker 10: rather have someone not defect openly if we can possibly
• 45:11
  Speaker 10: do that. So we have cases where we work on
• 45:13
  Speaker 10: individuals during the Cold War, during the era of the
• 45:17
  Speaker 10: Warsaw Pact. We dealt with embassy officials from Romania, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary, Yugoslavia, Bulgaria.
• 45:24
  Speaker 9: And the effort was to recruit them.
• 45:26
  Speaker 10: And you found someone, for instance, in the Czech embassy,
• 45:28
  Speaker 10: a man who was a Czech colonel in charge of
• 45:30
  Speaker 10: their intelligence service in the embassy, but he was also
• 45:32
  Speaker 10: a captain in the KGB, had that rank. So people
• 45:36
  Speaker 10: in the bloc embassies would know a lot of what
• 45:38
  Speaker 10: the Soviets were doing, besides having the Soviets as targets.
• 45:41
  Speaker 9: So the goal is to recruit one of them.
• 45:43
  Speaker 10: And it isn't much to turn them— that' s more like a
• 45:45
  Speaker 10: criminal term when you're talking about someone in a gang.
• 45:48
  Speaker 10: You turn them so they work against their fellow man
• 45:51
  Speaker 10: or their fellow gang members. But so the terms we
• 45:54
  Speaker 10: use are it's a recruitment in place— And it's the defectors.
• 45:57
  Speaker 10: And when you hear about the gymnasts and the rowers,
• 46:00
  Speaker 10: they say, oh, this person defected. They are asylum seekers.
• 46:03
  Speaker 10: In order to be a defector, you have to have
• 46:05
  Speaker 10: intelligence information. Whether you had a clearance, we have to
• 46:08
  Speaker 10: have intelligence data to either to bring with you or
• 46:10
  Speaker 10: that's in your head when you come out. So we
• 46:13
  Speaker 10: deal with defectors and intelligence officers.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: So this is a LinkedIn story. But in addition to LinkedIn,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: how else is Chinese intelligence trying to recruit Americans? What
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: other ways are they doing it?
• 46:27
  Speaker 9: Well, their system is completely different than ours.
• 46:30
  Speaker 10: A number of years ago, a senior intelligence official in China,
• 46:35
  Speaker 10: he was making a presentation at some sort of a
• 46:36
  Speaker 10: meeting where he was wearing an American-style suit.
• 46:39
  Speaker 9: And he was asked.
• 46:40
  Speaker 10: About, how do you get information from the West, the U.S.
• 46:44
  Speaker 9: In particular? And he laughed.
• 46:46
  Speaker 10: And he said, we have them covered. Now, if we
• 46:49
  Speaker 10: want to try to cover China, they have an embassy
• 46:52
  Speaker 10: in Washington, D.C. They have consulates in various places. And
• 46:56
  Speaker 10: You could try to recruit an intelligence officer who's there
• 46:59
  Speaker 10: or any other embassy official, but they have a much
• 47:02
  Speaker 10: more advantageous situation to go against the U.S. So how
• 47:06
  Speaker 10: many American students are exchange students in China working on.
• 47:10
  Speaker 9: A Ph.D.? Not many.
• 47:13
  Speaker 10: How many Chinese students are in the U.S.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Working on a.
• 47:16
  Speaker 9: Ph.D.? I mean, the number of students are extraordinary.
• 47:20
  Speaker 10: I have worked some cases involving Saudi, not in counterintelligence.
• 47:25
  Speaker 10: But I was surprised to learn that there are 18,000
• 47:27
  Speaker 10: Saudi students.
• 47:28
  Speaker 9: In the U.S.
• 47:30
  Speaker 10: That's an astonishing number. And the Chinese, I'm sure that
• 47:33
  Speaker 10: it's more. So we have documents which we would consider
• 47:37
  Speaker 10: not classified, something which an individual wrote a Ph.D. thesis on,
• 47:41
  Speaker 10: whether it's to do with physics or orbiting of planets
• 47:43
  Speaker 10: or whatever it might be. In places like the Soviet Union,
• 47:46
  Speaker 10: places like China, those things are classified. So you can
• 47:50
  Speaker 10: get things which in their countries would be classified, but
• 47:53
  Speaker 10: not in our country. So it's enormously open. But if
• 47:56
  Speaker 10: you have a driver for Nancy Pelosi, if you have
• 47:59
  Speaker 10: a girlfriend of Congressman.
• 48:00
  Speaker 9: Swalwell, if you have other individuals, they're all over. How
• 48:04
  Speaker 9: many Americans are chauffeurs or an official in China?
• 48:09
  Speaker 10: So they can pepper the continent with all sorts of
• 48:13
  Speaker 10: people at different levels.
• 48:14
  Speaker 9: Now, if you remember, many.
• 48:15
  Speaker 10: People asked about the show The Americans, which was a
• 48:18
  Speaker 10: Soviet couple on TV and Netflix or one of those shows.
• 48:21
  Speaker 9: Where there were illegals, that is to.
• 48:23
  Speaker 10: Say they were undercover, pretending to be Americans just for
• 48:25
  Speaker 10: the regular jobs. And the question is, well, they don't
• 48:27
  Speaker 10: have clearances. Well, you know, what could they do? But
• 48:30
  Speaker 10: they meet people with clearances. They go to the party
• 48:32
  Speaker 10: of FBI agents who lives across the street.
• 48:34
  Speaker 9: They hear what he and his friends have in conversation.
• 48:36
  Speaker 10: You can learn things, not necessarily with clearances, but about people,
• 48:40
  Speaker 10: about meetings, about concepts. But coming to the U.S., they
• 48:44
  Speaker 10: can have people in positions. You know, if you're Nancy
• 48:47
  Speaker 10: Pelosi's chauffeur, What can you learn? You would be surprised
• 48:51
  Speaker 10: what you can learn.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Well, how about Dianne Feinstein's chauffeur, right? Wasn't there a
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: problem with him as well, if I remember correctly, or
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: chief of staff, something like that?
• 48:56
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I'd be making a mismatch whether it was Pelosi
• 49:01
  Speaker 10: versus Feinstein.
• 49:02
  Speaker 9: But yes, I apologize to whoever it was.
• 49:05
  Speaker 10: But certainly, that's the same idea. And there's a lot
• 49:07
  Speaker 10: that can be learned. Plus, if they want, if they
• 49:09
  Speaker 10: have the technology, they can put bugs places. You can
• 49:13
  Speaker 10: have the back window sealed up so that it's like
• 49:15
  Speaker 10: a taxi. You can't get from front to back. You
• 49:17
  Speaker 10: can put a listing device there. So it doesn't matter
• 49:19
  Speaker 10: whether the window is sealed. You can still have someone listing.
• 49:21
  Speaker 10: I mean, the espionage back says to be enormously opportunistic
• 49:25
  Speaker 10: in the U.S.
• 49:25
  Speaker 9: For these people.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: So, Wayne, we're talking here, this entire interview has been
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: about China, China, China, and all their attempts to stick
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: spies in the United States. But my director, Pitar, was
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: just asking me here off to the side, Pitar saying,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: ask Wayne about Iranian intelligence, they must be sticking people
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: inside the United States to spy as well in many,
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: many different ways.
• 49:50
  Speaker 9: It's not that it's not as sophisticated.
• 49:52
  Speaker 10: It's much more technology with NSA and other organizations. What
• 49:56
  Speaker 10: the military has with what they know about Iran is
• 49:59
  Speaker 10: absolutely extraordinary, plus our allies and the skills and technologies
• 50:03
  Speaker 10: coming out of Ukraine with their various levels of drones,
• 50:08
  Speaker 10: boats that are drones now. I don't know what the
• 50:12
  Speaker 10: status is of counterterrorism and U.S. intelligence against Iran, if
• 50:17
  Speaker 10: they're functioning in the U.S. Like, we can't easily go there.
• 50:21
  Speaker 10: We can have people covertly as the CIA or other
• 50:24
  Speaker 10: intelligence organizations.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: But they can easily come here.
• 50:27
  Speaker 10: They can easily come here, much more easily than we
• 50:29
  Speaker 10: can go there. It's not that their standards are higher.
• 50:33
  Speaker 10: You just, you know, look at me. I probably can't
• 50:35
  Speaker 10: go there and start speaking Farsi and have them accept
• 50:37
  Speaker 10: the conversation from me. So you have someone who's ethnically
• 50:40
  Speaker 10: from that country. In this country, your ethnicity hardly makes
• 50:44
  Speaker 10: a difference in many locations.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Well, especially like Beverly Hills. It's known as Little Iran now.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just Iranians everywhere. And I'm sure 99%
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: of them are good Iranians who are escaped to this country.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Many of them are Jewish Iranians who ran away from
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: the Muslim radicalism. But there must be a few that
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: slip in who are working for the Iranian government and
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: are here as spies, I'm sure. You recruited the source
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: that took down Robert Henson, who was a FBI trader.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Your book, A Trader in the FBI, The Hunt for
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: a Russian Mole, tells that story. Tell us what happened
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: in that story.
• 51:23
  Speaker 10: I've been assigned to Washington, the Washington field office, for
• 51:25
  Speaker 10: 18 years. And I had been the security officer for
• 51:30
  Speaker 10: the field office. I had a record number of hours
• 51:32
  Speaker 10: of what we call FaceTime, working undercover operations against harder targets,
• 51:37
  Speaker 10: the Soviets, Romanians, Czechs, Poles, Hungarians, all sorts of people.
• 51:41
  Speaker 10: I wrote a handbook about working undercover counterintelligence. for the
• 51:45
  Speaker 10: newer agents coming in to know.
• 51:46
  Speaker 9: How to do it. So I had an awful lot
• 51:48
  Speaker 9: of that experience.
• 51:49
  Speaker 10: And I had debriefed a record, I think, 24 defectors
• 51:52
  Speaker 10: and recruitments in place. So my brain was deeply embedded
• 51:55
  Speaker 10: into that area. And then I had a daughter who
• 51:57
  Speaker 10: was born with a disability. And they said, do you
• 51:59
  Speaker 10: need to go to San Diego, where the children's hospital
• 52:01
  Speaker 10: have the best orthopedic surgeons in the world? So I
• 52:03
  Speaker 10: left all that behind. I was happy to do it
• 52:06
  Speaker 10: regarding my daughter. But so I moved to San Diego.
• 52:09
  Speaker 10: And I was away from counterintelligence, working health care fraud
• 52:11
  Speaker 10: and other things. And then one day I got a
• 52:13
  Speaker 10: call from an old, old friend from Washington. On a
• 52:16
  Speaker 10: Sunday morning, he said, Mike and Dave and I are
• 52:18
  Speaker 10: coming out on Tuesday. Don't tell anybody we're coming. And
• 52:21
  Speaker 10: that's a surprise. That's called undercover of darkness. And the
• 52:24
  Speaker 10: Bureau doesn't do that. But they came out.
• 52:26
  Speaker 9: Don't tell your wife.
• 52:27
  Speaker 10: Don't tell the counterintelligence people.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: No one.
• 52:29
  Speaker 10: So I met them on a Tuesday, and they said
• 52:31
  Speaker 10: right up front, we have a penetration of the FBI.
• 52:33
  Speaker 10: We have a mole in the FBI working for the KGB.
• 52:37
  Speaker 10: And at one point, there was a question whether it
• 52:38
  Speaker 10: was the FBI or the CIA, when it turns out, obviously,
• 52:41
  Speaker 10: it was the FBI. So they said, there's a Russian
• 52:44
  Speaker 10: who we know knows the face of the man he
• 52:46
  Speaker 10: has seen, the American who's giving secrets to the Russians.
• 52:49
  Speaker 10: They said, he's coming to a film festival in Santa
• 52:51
  Speaker 10: Monica in two months. They said, we want you to
• 52:54
  Speaker 10: go to this film festival, create some kind of backstopping cover,
• 52:58
  Speaker 10: some legend, which would enable you to be there, like
• 53:00
  Speaker 10: a financer of independent films, something like that. But go
• 53:03
  Speaker 10: to the film festival, find this man, meet him, befriend him,
• 53:06
  Speaker 10: recruit him, And then show them photos of a dozen
• 53:09
  Speaker 10: senior agents who we suspect, one of them might be.
• 53:11
  Speaker 9: The mole in the FBI. Now, that's really your mission impossible.
• 53:16
  Speaker 10: And when the Soviet was assigned to Washington for four
• 53:19
  Speaker 10: years during the Cold War, it was almost impossible to
• 53:22
  Speaker 10: recruit them. So I said, well, gee, how long do
• 53:24
  Speaker 10: I have to do this? And they said, well, the
• 53:26
  Speaker 10: festival lasts for eight days. So we have eight days
• 53:28
  Speaker 10: to do this. You're laughing with me, right?
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Mission Impossible. There's the movie.
• 53:34
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 53:35
  Speaker 10: So Tom Cruise's movies make that point. His obstacles were physical,
• 53:38
  Speaker 10: jumping out of airplanes and motorcycles off of cliffs. Mine
• 53:41
  Speaker 10: was psychological. There were two superpowers, and the Russians believed
• 53:45
  Speaker 10: they belonged to the best superpower, so why would the
• 53:47
  Speaker 10: guy want to talk to me? And the answer is
• 53:50
  Speaker 10: he probably wouldn't, but that is the whole idea of recruiting. Now,
• 53:53
  Speaker 10: I have a dear friend in John Douglas who was
• 53:55
  Speaker 10: the original profiler. He invented profiling. He is a mind hunter,
• 53:58
  Speaker 10: and he had The Criminal Minds show was based upon.
• 54:01
  Speaker 9: Him as well.
• 54:01
  Speaker 10: He was creating profiles for people. He started with serial murderers.
• 54:07
  Speaker 10: He went to prisons, interviewed all the serial murderers to
• 54:09
  Speaker 10: know what their mindset was. At the same time, parallel
• 54:12
  Speaker 10: to that, but not directly connected, we were profiling people
• 54:15
  Speaker 10: in the various embassies who we wanted to target.
• 54:18
  Speaker 9: And that was... Extremely important. You just can't pitch someone
• 54:21
  Speaker 9: in a bathroom.
• 54:22
  Speaker 10: You really have to have a lot of knowledge about
• 54:25
  Speaker 10: the individuals. And in this situation, we had some information
• 54:28
  Speaker 10: about the man, but the idea is I had to
• 54:30
  Speaker 10: go to the film festival and find him and then
• 54:32
  Speaker 10: meet him in a way that he wouldn't.
• 54:35
  Speaker 9: Think was suspicious.
• 54:36
  Speaker 10: I mean, in the CIA, they have what they call
• 54:38
  Speaker 10: a cold bump. You have an embassy reception. You invite
• 54:40
  Speaker 10: everybody in who wants to come. And someone who came
• 54:43
  Speaker 10: who was a target of yours, you just back around
• 54:45
  Speaker 10: and hit them on the side.
• 54:46
  Speaker 9: Oh, excuse me. And then you start a conversation.
• 54:49
  Speaker 10: There couldn't be anything more obvious of someone who's trying
• 54:51
  Speaker 10: to get close to an interview by having the cold bump.
• 54:54
  Speaker 9: We had to do that completely the other way around.
• 54:56
  Speaker 10: We had to find him in a way that would
• 54:59
  Speaker 10: be unsuspicious to meet him and have him become a
• 55:02
  Speaker 10: friend and then try to deal with it from there.
• 55:04
  Speaker 9: But it didn't work in that eight days, but it
• 55:06
  Speaker 9: did eventually work. He did point out a photo.
• 55:09
  Speaker 10: And a couple years later, Robert Hansen was arrested. So
• 55:13
  Speaker 10: it worked well. But I was retired by then, so
• 55:14
  Speaker 10: I was out of the intelligence classification loop when that happened.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: All right, last thing, and then we'll have to say
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: goodbye because we're running out of time. But you mentioned
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: a little earlier, this struck me, you mentioned all the,
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: you know, how easy it is for China to spy
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: because there's very few American students in China, but there's
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: thousands and thousands, tens of thousands of Chinese students in America.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: And actually, it's more tens of thousands. Last I heard
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: I believe President Trump talked about 600,000 Chinese students in America.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: And he said he was going to let them keep
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: going because the universities would go broke without them. And
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: I'm a very big pro-Trump guy. I'm a friend of
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: President Trump. He made a point of saying at the
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: White House, Wayne Root never wastes a minute. He introduced
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: me to the crowd. He said, Wayne Root never wastes
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: a minute saying negative things about me. And that's what
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: I appreciate about him. I'll never forget that about you.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: But I'm about to say something negative about him. I'm
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: allowed to disagree with him once in a while. Why
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: would we let in 600,000 foreign students from China? They're
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: almost likely to be, almost all of them, if not
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: most of them, are likely to be enemies, spies working
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: for China, bringing back information. I don't want to let
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: them in our country. Don't you think that's a national
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: security risk to let 600,000 Chinese students into America? I
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: can't imagine that they let them come here without them
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: being recruited to be spies, every one of them.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 56:32
  Speaker 9: Well, I don't make the rules. It would be different
• 56:34
  Speaker 9: maybe if I did. But here's the deal.
• 56:36
  Speaker 10: When they talk about how many Muslims of Islam is
• 56:40
  Speaker 10: a peaceful language and how many bad Muslims are, what's
• 56:43
  Speaker 10: the percentage? And if there's, you know, a billion Muslims
• 56:46
  Speaker 10: in the world, how many of those would be in
• 56:47
  Speaker 10: the U.S.
• 56:47
  Speaker 9: Would not be peaceful Muslims?
• 56:49
  Speaker 10: How many students could come over here and not be
• 56:51
  Speaker 10: connected with their services? When we work for Eastern Bloc countries,
• 56:55
  Speaker 10: not just Russia, but all the other Warsaw Pact countries,
• 56:58
  Speaker 10: Anytime a student came out, even priests, if you were
• 57:01
  Speaker 10: a Romanian Orthodox priest and you came to be a
• 57:03
  Speaker 10: priest in a new church in Washington, for instance, you
• 57:06
  Speaker 10: had to be, if not recruited, you had to.
• 57:08
  Speaker 9: Be at least a person who would do their bidding.
• 57:11
  Speaker 9: And if you came out and you didn't do the.
• 57:12
  Speaker 10: Bidding, you got sent back or they punished your family.
• 57:15
  Speaker 9: Your wife lost her job back there. So it's the
• 57:18
  Speaker 9: same deal here.
• 57:19
  Speaker 10: The number of Chinese students, they're not all quote, officers,
• 57:23
  Speaker 10: not all working for them. But it doesn't matter what
• 57:26
  Speaker 10: the percentage is. Whatever percentage is, the whole number is
• 57:28
  Speaker 10: simply enormous.
• 57:30
  Speaker 9: And that's really a problem.
• 57:31
  Speaker 10: You can knock it back to half as many, and
• 57:33
  Speaker 10: they would still have that many.
• 57:34
  Speaker 9: But they do commit espionage.
• 57:36
  Speaker 10: They get secrets that don't seem to be significant secrets
• 57:39
  Speaker 10: many times. But someone back there in Beijing is putting
• 57:42
  Speaker 10: all the pieces of the puzzle together, which greatly concerns me.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, when you talk about numbers
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: like that, the number I've heard for years now is
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: when it comes to Muslims, about 20% of all the
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Muslims in the world are radicalized and want to kill
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: us and want to be terrorists and like it when
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: Americans die, whether it's 20% or not. I hear that's
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: the number. Well, there's 2 billion Muslims in the world,
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: so that means there's 400 million Muslims that want to
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: kill us. That's a really big number. Even if 80%
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: are not bad people, that's a huge number, a scary number.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 58:15
  Speaker 10: That's the problem with an open society. We want to
• 58:17
  Speaker 10: have the open society. And you have to figure out
• 58:19
  Speaker 10: how to filter out, how to keep many out. I
• 58:21
  Speaker 10: just think as a whole number, there's far too many.
• 58:23
  Speaker 10: But those who come out who they want to live
• 58:26
  Speaker 10: in the West, they want to be honest, decent Americans
• 58:28
  Speaker 10: like these, the World Cup fans that came from Scotland, Australia,
• 58:33
  Speaker 10: the Brits and anyplace else.
• 58:35
  Speaker 9: They want to be here.
• 58:36
  Speaker 10: They want to love it here.
• 58:37
  Speaker 9: And that's a big deal.
• 58:38
  Speaker 10: I just wanted to show you this. This is the book,
• 58:40
  Speaker 10: A Traitor in the FBI, The Hunt for a Russian Molehole.
• 58:44
  Speaker 10: It came out April 7th on Amazon. It sold out
• 58:46
  Speaker 10: the first day and was the number one for new
• 58:48
  Speaker 10: release for the rest of the month. And it's doing
• 58:50
  Speaker 10: pretty well. But it is that story, how that story ended,
• 58:54
  Speaker 10: resulting in recruiting an intelligence person from the Soviet Union,
• 58:59
  Speaker 10: the former Soviet Union. And it turned out to be
• 59:02
  Speaker 10: a dynamic story. You can write fiction, but this one
• 59:04
  Speaker 10: was all true. And I'm proud of it.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: He's got great stories, a great patriot. He has really
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: bled for his country. wayne barnes 29 year fbi counterintelligence
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: agent his book a traitor in the fbi the hunt
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: for a russian mole a fascinating story it's uh it's
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: more fascinating than even fiction real life very often more
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: fascinating fiction and wayne's got the proof wayne barnes thank
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: you for hanging with us My pleasure.
• 59:30
  Speaker 9: Thank you very much.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: All right. The other Wayne. We've got lots of Waynes here.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Waynes are wild. We'll be right back. I'm Wayne Allyn Root.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: This is War Zone Live. RootForAmerica.com is my website. You
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: can email me anytime, WayneRoot, at gmail.com. And coming up
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: in 15 minutes, I'll be a guest on Steve Bannon's show,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: War Room. Steve Bannon's show coming up with Wayne Allyn Root.
• 59:49
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you. So I think this interview should
• 1:01:33
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• 1:01:38
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• 1:02:50
  Speaker 7: Wayne, you're so right. And I'll just share one of
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 7: a thousand stories. So GLP-1's guys have been around for more.
• 1:02:57
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• 1:03:01
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• 1:03:10
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• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 7: He still was over 40 pounds overweight. So the drug
• 1:03:18
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• 1:03:20
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  Speaker 5: By the way.
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  Speaker 3: So he lost... He actually lost eight of these.
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  Speaker 7: He lost 42 pounds of fat while he gained his hydration,
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  Speaker 7: gained his muscle. And then even his doctor told him, Wayne, hey,
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  Speaker 7: you've been on this GLP-1 for 13 years. You've got
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• 1:04:02
  Speaker 7: I think everybody, listen, the most healthy thing to do
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 7: is not go on a GLP-1, but if you're going
• 1:04:08
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• 1:04:11
  Speaker 7: a protocol like ours that guarantees you're going to gain
• 1:04:13
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• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: If you're a diabetic, you're going to reverse. And by
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• 1:04:20
  Speaker 7: To the root cause of every illness and disease, which
• 1:04:23
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• 1:04:34
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  Speaker 3: Out of your body so that you can have amazing health.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: And your patent pending science of intercellular hydration, which worked
• 1:04:47
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  Speaker 2: It reverse aged me. It changes cells from raisins to grapes.
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  Speaker 2: Explain what that means. Explain to people the difference between
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  Speaker 2: a raisin and a grape and how that affects your
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  Speaker 2: cells and your health.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I love that question because, you know, Wayne,
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  Speaker 7: I love to keep it simple for people. And I
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  Speaker 7: ask people every day, what's the difference between a raisin
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  Speaker 7: and a grape?
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  Speaker 3: Hydration, right? Hydration.
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  Speaker 7: Well, just imagine if each one of your organs is
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  Speaker 7: a raisin because it's shriveled up and dehydrated. If it's
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  Speaker 7: your pancreas and it's shriveled up, you're going to have diabetes.
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  Speaker 7: If it's your liver and it's shriveled up, you're going
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  Speaker 7: to have a fatty liver.
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  Speaker 5: If it's your.
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  Speaker 7: Heart and it's shriveled up, you're going to have congestive
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  Speaker 7: heart failure. If it's your thyroid, you're going to have
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  Speaker 7: to be on a thyroid.
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  Speaker 3: Medication to be supplementing that.
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  Speaker 7: If it's your brain, then you're going to have to
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  Speaker 7: be on anxiety or a depression medication. Everything is all
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  Speaker 7: about the intercellular hydration. If your cells are hydrated, your
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  Speaker 7: organs are optimized, and that's.
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  Speaker 3: Why you can reverse any ailment or disease, guys. Yep,
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  Speaker 3: you heard me, any, A-N-Y.
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  Speaker 7: You can reverse any ailment or disease when you get
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  Speaker 7: healthy at the cellular level.
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  Speaker 3: And look, it's not a bad side effect, right? Like,
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  Speaker 3: who doesn't want to look.
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  Speaker 7: Like Wayne Allen Root, look 15 years younger, 15 years later? Like,
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  Speaker 7: who doesn't want to do that? That's just a great
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  Speaker 7: side effect. And Wayne, I'm just going to brag on you.
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  Speaker 7: You know what Wayne did, you guys? Wayne used to
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  Speaker 7: have a million followers on Twitter. He lost them because
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  Speaker 7: he's a patriot when it was Twitter.
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  Speaker 3: Wayne took off his shirt, man.
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  Speaker 7: Like when he, he showed, he showed, Hey, no, I
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  Speaker 7: gained me some guns. I mean, he literally looked like a,
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  Speaker 7: he looks like a high school football player today. If
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  Speaker 7: you guys saw him with the shirt off, he looks
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 7: like a high school football player.
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  Speaker 2: So how does Energize Health help people reverse diabetes? How
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  Speaker 2: do you reverse diabetes, John?
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  Speaker 3: Wayne, it's the raisin and the grape.
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  Speaker 7: The number one cause of diabetes, it is not sugar,
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  Speaker 7: it is not fat. It is a dehydrated pancreas that
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  Speaker 7: cannot regulate insulin. So we have had thousands of people,
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  Speaker 7: thousands and thousands, reverse diabetes. We even had people, Wayne,
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  Speaker 7: with type 1 diabetes, which they say is not reversible,
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  Speaker 7: and they cut.
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  Speaker 3: Their insulin in half. And we had three people that
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  Speaker 3: said they went completely off of insulin.
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  Speaker 2: And why?
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  Speaker 3: It's just like jump-starting a car battery.
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  Speaker 7: Right. So if if your battery goes down on your car,
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  Speaker 7: if you could jumpstart that thing. So we've had people
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  Speaker 7: that their thyroid wasn't working. All of a sudden it's
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  Speaker 7: working like it was when they were 15 years old.
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  Speaker 3: A liver, a kidney. You know, there's a doctor right
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  Speaker 3: there from your city.
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  Speaker 2: Dr.
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  Speaker 7: Brian Taylor Wayne from Las Vegas and he only came
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  Speaker 7: and heard me speak.
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  Speaker 3: Live because he had so much respect for you.
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  Speaker 7: But he said this sounds impossible you're telling me you
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  Speaker 7: can reverse irreversible kidney failure I said Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Taylor I'll bet you a million dollars.
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  Speaker 7: We can reverse it and he said well he said
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  Speaker 7: I have so much faith in Wayne and I believe
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  Speaker 7: in the science of what you said I'm going to
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  Speaker 7: try it and he reversed his irreversible kidney failure it's
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  Speaker 7: on the front of our website you can see the
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  Speaker 7: testimonial That's great.
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  Speaker 2: So how can my fans get started? How simple is
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  Speaker 2: it to get started? How inexpensive is it to get started?
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  Speaker 7: Guys, listen, you're talking a couple hundred bucks a month,
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  Speaker 7: $ 250 a month, $ 291 a month with your spouse.
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  Speaker 3: It's 100% money back, guaranteed.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody can afford it.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody can do it. We have people in their 90s
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  Speaker 3: that do it. We have people in wheelchairs that do it.
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  Speaker 5: So everyone can do it.
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  Speaker 3: All you have to do is book the call.
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  Speaker 7: There's no salespeople at Energize Health. We only share energy.
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  Speaker 7: We share an experience. We are the solution to the problem,
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  Speaker 7: and all we're doing is offering you a solution to
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  Speaker 7: your problem. So just go on the website, energizedhealth.com, book
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  Speaker 7: that call, and you're going to talk to a real
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  Speaker 7: person that has their own miracle story, but they're going
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 7: to help you to have your miracle story.
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  Speaker 2: And I've got my miracle story. So I think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's a great endorsement, testimonial slash testimony for the product.
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  Speaker 2: I've been on the program for six years. It took
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  Speaker 2: me only 88 days to lose the 25 pounds of fat.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't lose 25 pounds of weight. Matter of fact,
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  Speaker 2: I gave 10 pounds of muscle, so I didn't lose
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  Speaker 2: 25 pounds at all. I barely lost anything at all,
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  Speaker 2: but I came back in a different shape. My body
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  Speaker 2: and my face. are a different shape, and that really
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  Speaker 2: changed my life. Thank you, John Jubilee. Thank you, Energized Health.
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  Speaker 2: you at my birthday party next weekend.
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  Speaker 3: I'll see you there, brother.