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Happy Hour #239: House Hunters Abroad · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie. And Samantha. And welcome to Stuff
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  Speaker 1: I Never Told You, a production of iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: And welcome to another edition of Happy Hour, where I'm
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  Speaker 2: just going to talk about my new obsessions.
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  Speaker 1: That's the whole series I think I'm doing. Yeah. Without
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  Speaker 1: knowing I'm doing.
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  Speaker 3: You do have several outlines proposed that have to do
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  Speaker 3: with Not necessarily your particular obsession, but like.
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  Speaker 1: Things that could be.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, anyway, all that to say is, this is this
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  Speaker 1: happy hour. But before we start, please know, unless we
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  Speaker 1: specify it's typically not sponsored, who knows? Things can change.
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  Speaker 1: We love that. Please sponsor us. We are a good group.
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  Speaker 3: Legally, we have to say if they're currently sponsoring us.
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  Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that in the future... It won't
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  Speaker 1: be a sponsor. Correct. And with that, this is also
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  Speaker 1: a happy hour episode.
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  Speaker 2: That means we're probably doing happy hour-ish things.
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  Speaker 1: Annie, are you doing happy hour-ish things?
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  Speaker 3: I am. I have some red wine, as usual.
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  Speaker 1: Red wine, red wine.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm sticking with my bubble water because we are
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  Speaker 2: very busy and I can't be sleepy right now. Although
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  Speaker 2: I'm always sleepy, Annie.
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  Speaker 1: That's rough.
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  Speaker 3: That's a rough situation to be in.
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  Speaker 1: It is, right? And if you're doing anything happy, please
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  Speaker 1: do so responsibly because we care about you.
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  Speaker 2: And if you need to do productive things and it
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  Speaker 2: makes you sleepy, don't do it. Or if you do,
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  Speaker 2: give yourself time to have a break.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's the advice.
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  Speaker 2: I will say I went to the doctor today because
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  Speaker 2: I had blood work recently.
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  Speaker 1: And it says that my possible low B12.
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  Speaker 3: Slash.
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  Speaker 1: So I had to go back for more work. So
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  Speaker 1: that would make a lot more sense. I have always,
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  Speaker 1: since high school, I've had trouble.
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  Speaker 3: B12.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 3: They've always said, mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'll let y'all know when those come in. I'll
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  Speaker 2: let y'all know because it's so important. No, honestly, today
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  Speaker 2: is all, again, about my new obsession. I have recently, like,
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  Speaker 2: I swore I would never be this person because I have...
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  Speaker 2: So annoyed when I see renovation shows, house shows, because
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  Speaker 2: I know they're all fake. Like, I've had people who
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  Speaker 2: have actually been on them, and they're like, we actually
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  Speaker 2: already had picked out the house. They showed us two
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  Speaker 2: random houses, and we just had to be, like, a
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  Speaker 2: little conflicted, and that's how they did. And I'm talking about, like,
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  Speaker 2: house hunters. Shows like that, HGTV.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Because my family, so my mom... love some HGTV.
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  Speaker 1: Love, love, love.
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  Speaker 2: My partner's mom, I don't know if she loves it,
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  Speaker 2: but she'll put it on. I think it's like, at
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  Speaker 2: least this is calm and I don't have to watch
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  Speaker 2: the news. I completely agree with that. I would much
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  Speaker 2: rather watch that. For me, cooking shows has been the
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  Speaker 2: thing that I've kind of run out of cooking shows
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  Speaker 2: because Top Chef is my favorite. When I say cooking show,
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  Speaker 2: I want to say just Top Chef. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: why I said it like that. And currently, there's no
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  Speaker 2: new season. I am still Mad at Tom Colicchio. And
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  Speaker 2: I will say this very loudly. Why haven't you come
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  Speaker 2: to Atlanta? Why haven't you come to Georgia?
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  Speaker 1: That's absurd.
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  Speaker 2: You went to Greenville, no offense. But you went to
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  Speaker 2: Greenville and Charleston again. Charleston you've already been to.
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  Speaker 1: That's obnoxious. We should start a petition.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm very mad at you for not doing it.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's some political reason that he hasn't. Because
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  Speaker 2: Atlanta and Gwinnett, Savannah, Jekyll Island, we have so much.
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  Speaker 1: That they can come through. Augusta actually has a lot
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  Speaker 1: that you wouldn't know. We have peanuts. We have pecans.
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  Speaker 1: We have peaches. We have apples. What is wrong with you? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm done. This is not the rant, but I will say...
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  Speaker 1: I'm here for it either way. I'm very angry about this.
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  Speaker 1: Someone published this on.
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  Speaker 2: Someone put this on Kristen Kiesch's videos.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what she watches. I love her, though.
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  Speaker 1: Love you.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, Padma, I also love you, but you're not there anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Back to my obsessions with that. So I usually typically
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  Speaker 2: watch things like Top Chef, and that's kind of like nice.
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  Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, on YouTube, it started feeding me,
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  Speaker 2: who has been a sponsor, by the way, in the past.
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  Speaker 1: They've been one of their sponsors. But has been feeding
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  Speaker 1: me shows like Say Yes to the Dress.
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  Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, I'm watching that because I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 2: now I need to know, did they pick this dress?
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  Speaker 2: And why are the mothers so awful or so wonderful?
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  Speaker 1: One of those two things.
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  Speaker 2: Or now recently, House Hunters, which again, I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I will never watch these. This is just ridiculous because
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  Speaker 2: they're fake, but international version. And I have really gotten
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  Speaker 2: into looking at all these houses and sitting there going, I.
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  Speaker 1: Can afford that. How can I move to there? That
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  Speaker 1: is an amazing house. You know, pick that house. That
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  Speaker 1: house can have sheeps and highland cows. Give me that. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: this is what I've been doing.
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  Speaker 2: So because of this, I have also started researching homes.
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  Speaker 2: I have literally gone into listings to see if any
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  Speaker 2: of these homes could be bought. I found a property, y'all,
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  Speaker 2: in Ireland. I don't know exactly where. I got to
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  Speaker 2: go back and look because I know it's a big, fat,
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  Speaker 2: poor land that has a cute house, a wonderful house
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  Speaker 2: with a church next to it, giant property next to
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  Speaker 2: a pretty big creek. Y'all, I want it. And it
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  Speaker 2: was in the price range. I think they do auctions
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  Speaker 2: on that, so that might not be true because I
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  Speaker 2: don't know the actual cost and how that works in
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  Speaker 2: Ireland and what taxes look like. But I was like,
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  Speaker 2: give me this.
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  Speaker 1: This is what I want.
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  Speaker 2: So that, of course, fed into my head. Am I
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  Speaker 2: seeing more people leaving? I have at least three friends
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  Speaker 2: who actually uprooted themselves. Two of them are in the Netherlands,
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  Speaker 2: which was like, oh, one of them has two children
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  Speaker 2: and just took them.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, she did it. Good for her.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so jealous because it's such an interesting thing. Like
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  Speaker 2: it would be difficult enough, me, my partner and a dog.
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  Speaker 2: I could not imagine doing this with children, but apparently
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  Speaker 2: there's quite a bit of people who are doing this.
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  Speaker 1: And so I had to go back because we talked
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  Speaker 1: about this before.
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  Speaker 2: I believe it was a Monday Mini when we talked
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  Speaker 2: about people were talking about leaving and what this looks like.
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  Speaker 2: So there's been some new numbers and I thought we
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  Speaker 2: would discuss this kind of like a Monday Mini, Annie.
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  Speaker 2: So this is from a Yahoo Finance article, and they said,
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  Speaker 2: as the cost of living crisis continues to burden people
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  Speaker 2: across the country, Americans are reportedly fleeing the U.S. at
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  Speaker 2: a rate we haven't seen in nearly a century. An
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  Speaker 2: estimated 150,000 people fled the country in 2025, leading to
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  Speaker 2: a negative net migration in the U.S., according to the
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  Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal, which notes that such a thing hasn't
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  Speaker 2: happened in America since the Great Depression in 1929. 150,000
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  Speaker 2: people left, which again, compared to the actual population, may
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  Speaker 2: not sound big, but to me, that's huge.
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  Speaker 1: And the fact that these people have, I've been like, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I do give credit to Yahoo Finance for using
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  Speaker 2: the term fleeing. So I'm like, yep, that's exactly what
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  Speaker 2: is happening. They are fleeing the country. And I wonder,
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  Speaker 2: how are people doing this? So Of course, if you're
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  Speaker 2: one of these people or are considering it, are in
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  Speaker 2: the middle of it, or have done it, please let
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  Speaker 2: me know. Because I need to know how realistic this is.
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  Speaker 2: So the article goes on and says, the estimation shows
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  Speaker 2: that many Americans prefer to live elsewhere, but the number
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  Speaker 2: of these who renounced their citizenship in 2025 suggests many
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  Speaker 2: who left aren't planning on coming back. So approximately 200
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  Speaker 2: to 400 Americans would renounce their citizenship in any given
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  Speaker 2: year before 2009, but the number jumped to almost 5,000.
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  Speaker 2: in 2025, with more renunciations expected in 2026. So all
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  Speaker 2: these numbers are based on 2025. Some of the biggest
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  Speaker 2: jumps have happened in the first term of our current
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  Speaker 2: administration to today. And it's kind of obvious, I think,
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  Speaker 2: of why. And they go on to talk about where
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  Speaker 2: people are going. So, as the Wall Street Journal reports,
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  Speaker 2: nearly all of the 27 countries that make up the
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  Speaker 2: European Union have welcomed record levels of American expats in
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  Speaker 2: the recent years.
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  Speaker 1: So, a lot of people are going to Europe.
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  Speaker 2: And I did notice, because Ireland is on the Euro,
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  Speaker 2: that I was like, it is cheaper to go there
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  Speaker 2: than to go to, like, the UK on the pound system.
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  Speaker 1: The pound is....
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  Speaker 2: Damn.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. That's how I want to say that, is damn. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't got enough money for that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But Ireland, but their cost of living is higher in
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  Speaker 2: the sense as well as the fact that it's really
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  Speaker 2: hard to get to move into Ireland.
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to use my partner's Irish roots, but
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't go deep enough.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yes. I know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very unhappy about that.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting because there was another article from the Gallup
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  Speaker 2: poll that was written in November of 2025 talking about
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  Speaker 2: women making up a large number.
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  Speaker 1: So they wrote this.
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  Speaker 2: In 2025, 40% of women aged 15 to 44 said
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  Speaker 2: they would move abroad permanently if they had the opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: The current figure is four times higher than 10% who
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  Speaker 2: shared this desire in 2014 when it was generally in
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  Speaker 2: line with other age and gender groups. What has not
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  Speaker 2: changed is where these younger women would like to go.
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  Speaker 2: Canada remains the top preferred destination for younger American women
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  Speaker 2: looking to leave, with 11% of those in the years
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  Speaker 2: since 2022 mentioning Canada as their top destination ahead of
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  Speaker 2: New Zealand, Italy, and Japan.
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  Speaker 1: I would also like to move to New Zealand. But it's...
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  Speaker 1: They also don't want us. They don't want anybody.
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  Speaker 3: It's really expensive, too.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's they... They're having kind of a.
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  Speaker 3: Because we've talked about this before, and I said my
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  Speaker 3: country would be New Zealand. um and at the time
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  Speaker 3: which was i think two years ago i don't know
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  Speaker 3: a year ago at least uh they were having their
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  Speaker 3: own conversation about how nobody could afford to live there
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  Speaker 3: and people were leaving so so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that's definitely a thing i will say in this
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  Speaker 2: conversation one of the things that they did a point
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  Speaker 2: out is that married women want to leave just as
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  Speaker 2: bad as the single women and are doing so so
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  Speaker 2: this is back to that uh Gallup poll article, between
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  Speaker 2: 2024 and 2025, at least two in five younger women, 41%
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  Speaker 2: of those who are married and 45% of those who
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  Speaker 2: are single, said they would like to move abroad permanently
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  Speaker 2: if given the chance. This is the narrowest gap by
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  Speaker 2: marital status among younger women in desire to move that
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  Speaker 2: Gallup has recorded since first asking the question, suggesting that
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  Speaker 2: younger married women increasingly do not view marriage as a
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  Speaker 2: barrier to migration. And I think maybe it's because, like myself,
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  Speaker 2: my partner's like, yeah, let's go.
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  Speaker 1: Like, he's ready. He's ready. He's like, let's go.
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  Speaker 2: We're going. My conversation, because one of the places that
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  Speaker 2: I've seen as more welcoming and easiest to go to,
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  Speaker 2: and also more opportunities, Portugal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Take me to there. Take me to there.
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  Speaker 2: All these conversations are really interesting because that first article
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  Speaker 2: is talking about how many have actually done so versus
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  Speaker 2: Gallup talking about who wants to go.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of people are having conversations.
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  Speaker 2: Better plans. Again, this is a very privileged conversation. I
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  Speaker 2: understand this and being able to move. I think one
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  Speaker 2: of the biggest reasons I want, I am really looking
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  Speaker 2: at this and having this like, okay, I can do this.
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  Speaker 1: I can do the time chain. I can do these things.
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  Speaker 2: It's partially because of our current election status. So in
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  Speaker 2: the state of Georgia, like many other places, we have
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  Speaker 2: a governor's runoff, a governor's election. And to me, the
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  Speaker 2: candidates here are much like the presidential candidates. in which
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  Speaker 2: we can have the worst of the worst versus kind
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  Speaker 2: of bad.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: But the kind of bad is workable. I don't agree
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  Speaker 2: with everything Keisha Lance Bottoms has done. There's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of things that I think she did as a mayor
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  Speaker 2: that was really corrupt and need conversations.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of things I think she did well
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  Speaker 1: as well. I think there's a basis in this.
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  Speaker 2: So with that, I think she is someone that we
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  Speaker 2: could have a conversation with and sit down with and
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  Speaker 2: make changes with.
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  Speaker 1: She's no Mom Donnie. Why is New York so stupidly expensive?
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  Speaker 1: Everybody wants to be there. Especially now. I'm okay.
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  Speaker 2: But having Rick Jackson, who has made his billions slash millions,
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  Speaker 2: I think he's a billionaire, off of the Georgia health care,
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  Speaker 2: which is in a crisis and has the worst.
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  Speaker 1: statistically, in medical care.
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  Speaker 2: Like, where it's covered, who has died, where there's hospitals,
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  Speaker 2: there's been so many closures, where there's so many denials.
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  Speaker 2: We are in a crisis, honestly, here in this state specifically.
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  Speaker 2: And Rick Jackson is a part of that problem. And
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  Speaker 2: what he has said outright was that he wanted to
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  Speaker 2: be like Donald Trump. And what Donald Trump has done
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  Speaker 2: in the first year is make billions off of the
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  Speaker 2: backs of the poor and the lower middle class at this,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and not caring about how we're doing. Literally
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  Speaker 2: seeing gas prices at $ 4 in the state of Georgia,
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  Speaker 2: which I know a lot of other places higher, but
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  Speaker 2: for us has almost doubled.
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  Speaker 1: In the last year.
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  Speaker 2: And so like seeing that causes us to have a
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  Speaker 2: moment of like, what do we do? If we have
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  Speaker 2: a Donald Trump in a state level that agrees with
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  Speaker 2: the federal level Donald Trump, then where do we stand?
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  Speaker 2: So I am petrified. honestly, about our system. And y'all,
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  Speaker 2: we're fighting. We're trying to sit here and have those
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  Speaker 2: moments and make sure we're campaigning. Again, politics is so gross,
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  Speaker 2: but we know and we've seen the damage when you
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  Speaker 2: get the wrong candidate. Greedy candidates who lie a lot.
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  Speaker 2: He lies a lot, which is exactly what Donald Trump did. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, one for the course. And then talking about
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  Speaker 2: having the reserve's being at the polls to intimidate people
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  Speaker 2: is concerning. And the fact that we have some of
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  Speaker 2: the highest detention rates for immigrants, and no one's talking
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  Speaker 2: about it because there are those here that are more
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  Speaker 2: accepting of it, which is.
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  Speaker 1: Horrific in itself.
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  Speaker 2: With that downer, yeah, I am watching House Hunters International
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  Speaker 2: to try to find properties in Ireland. A, if you
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  Speaker 2: want to do a green card marriage with me, I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure my partner would be okay.
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  Speaker 1: Or with my partner. Like, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Hey.
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  Speaker 1: We will be a polygamous family. Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: Just kidding.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to get arrested for that.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so if you have done this move, though,
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  Speaker 2: if you are talking about doing this move or if
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  Speaker 2: you're looking at.
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  Speaker 1: Doing this type of move, let us know. I would
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  Speaker 1: love to hear about this. I also looked at Glasgow,
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  Speaker 1: I will say. But again, that pound exchange rate is
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  Speaker 1: not good.
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