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The Power of Personal Choice: Faith, Media, & Community Responsibility | FT Caleb Maxey | EP73 · Jess Ask

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  Speaker 5: just a pleasant storm, like you know those storms that
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  Speaker 5: you know that you need, Like it's oh, I need
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  Speaker 5: the rain to come. I think I'm already tapped in.
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  Speaker 5: I he the type that you'll be like, I need
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  Speaker 5: the rain to come. And when the rain come, you
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  Speaker 5: already know you're getting a harvest. Okay, the harvest is here,
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  Speaker 5: the harvest here. I have a I'm a calling for philanthropist, speaker, minister,
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  Speaker 5: a creative.
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  Speaker 3: Man. You fat he is the total package.
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  Speaker 5: Not only that his heartbeat is his family, his wife
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  Speaker 5: and his beautiful children. We have none other than the wonderful,
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  Speaker 5: the anointed k Lob.
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  Speaker 6: I feel so at home, like Louise jumped into it out,
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  Speaker 6: I feel so at home. I just and I got
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  Speaker 6: to say, out of that type being reduction, I just
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  Speaker 6: want to say, and I know we probably gonna get
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  Speaker 6: into it.
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  Speaker 4: I just said, I don't know if y'all recalled.
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  Speaker 3: It, repeat it, if you got to repeat it, do it.
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  Speaker 6: We got time just been solid since our knownor and
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  Speaker 6: you know, it's easy to be a great person with
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  Speaker 6: skills and to be aesthetically you'll know, pretty or handsome,
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  Speaker 6: whatever this world will say. But what I feel like
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  Speaker 6: being dope about you is you said yes Lord, so
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  Speaker 6: you can have a whole lot of things going for you,
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  Speaker 6: but if you not obedient, and I feel like seeing
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  Speaker 6: that in your life recently, especially because God been blessing this.
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  Speaker 4: That's a yes Lord that you had.
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  Speaker 6: And so you know, whatever anybody could ever call me,
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  Speaker 6: I just won't thank you for saying yes Lord.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I'll go, I'll do it.
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  Speaker 4: So put down and yes Jesus out.
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  Speaker 5: Because the obedience in the yes is not always easy.
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  Speaker 5: It breaks down the flesh every day this this season
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  Speaker 5: is been, it's been one before we get okay, so left,
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  Speaker 5: I gotta sit. I gotta sit the tall I always
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  Speaker 5: give like a fun fact with the with the person
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  Speaker 5: because especially.
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  Speaker 3: When we go bike like we go bike okay.
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  Speaker 5: We Caleb and I met Uh at the job that
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  Speaker 5: we was at. So we used to work for Coach
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  Speaker 5: Coach Outlet in Leagues, Alabama and Caleb with Caleb.
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  Speaker 3: And Sale, he was just a stock person.
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  Speaker 4: In the back.
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  Speaker 3: In the back at that.
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  Speaker 5: Point he had long dress and that and then like
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  Speaker 5: it was just I don't know, but he was like
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  Speaker 5: literally I was scared of me.
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  Speaker 6: Me.
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  Speaker 5: I think probably everybody scaled me, but she has the
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  Speaker 5: heart of gold, frozen Rooster. I'm gonna go ahead plug if y'all,
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  Speaker 5: They got chicken, they got cooks, they got ice cream,
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  Speaker 5: and it's all homemade. Okay, she is legit, So shout
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  Speaker 5: out to me me. We love you, appreciate you. But
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  Speaker 5: y'all was skaled of them. She was not playing okay,
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  Speaker 5: she was not playing with a listen. So you were
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  Speaker 5: like one of the first, like the first person that
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  Speaker 5: like spoke to me outside of like work stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Like you was just like, hey, how you doing.
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  Speaker 4: What's your name?
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  Speaker 3: Okay? Where you from?
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  Speaker 5: You started trying to like you were always so open.
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  Speaker 5: But I was telling Desiray this before you came, and
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  Speaker 5: I don't think you really I don't know if you
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  Speaker 5: remember this, but this moment really like changed me planning
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  Speaker 5: a seed that I don't even think you realized. So
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  Speaker 5: it was one day, you know, everybody would want to
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  Speaker 5: go to the stock room and work with you because
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  Speaker 5: you always had good conversations. You always don't talk about songs,
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  Speaker 5: you always.
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  Speaker 3: Don't motivate us. It was consistency.
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  Speaker 5: So I don't know if I was working the back
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  Speaker 5: with you or whatever, but we end up taking lunch
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  Speaker 5: at the same time.
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  Speaker 3: So we decided to go.
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  Speaker 5: To the the Calf together or whatever you call it.
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  Speaker 5: So we sat down and I can't remember verbatim the words,
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  Speaker 5: but I know the subject was about me being loved
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  Speaker 5: right and I was in a relationship. And I don't
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  Speaker 5: even think you realized at the time you knew I
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  Speaker 5: was in a relationship, but you were talking to me
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  Speaker 5: about me. Were you were telling me about my worth
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  Speaker 5: and you were saying you were sharing me.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's starting to come to me.
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  Speaker 5: So that's why, Holy Spirit, kipp it, you were saying
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  Speaker 5: to me about your journey of apps abstaining and how
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  Speaker 5: you were getting involved more with the Lord, like how
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  Speaker 5: you start shifting before you really start speaking and being
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  Speaker 5: out loud about it. You were talking, You were telling
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  Speaker 5: me about your personal journey, not in a judgmental way,
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  Speaker 5: but you started from that part of the conversation about
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  Speaker 5: being abstinate, and you worked it toward self love, self worth.
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  Speaker 5: And in that moment, Caleb, you don't you didn't know this.
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  Speaker 5: I'm about to tell you this today. This is how
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  Speaker 5: powerful you are. I'm at that current moment, I was
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  Speaker 5: an abusive relationship. You plant a seed for me to
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  Speaker 5: know that I could get out and that I could
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  Speaker 5: be loved. Now, it didn't happen immediately, but when I
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  Speaker 5: would want to think about when I did leave, like
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  Speaker 5: for real, and I would think I would want to
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  Speaker 5: go back, and I thought I was doing it was
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  Speaker 5: it was moments where I would think about your words.
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  Speaker 5: I would think about how you made me fit feel,
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  Speaker 5: how you made me feel in that moment, Lord, because
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  Speaker 5: you reminded me that I was worth it. So I'm
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  Speaker 5: telling you in this platform like this is who I'm dealing.
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  Speaker 3: With you like this comes.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm excited about where God is about to take
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  Speaker 5: this conversation.
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  Speaker 3: You are just about of injury.
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  Speaker 5: So what's life being like for Caleb as he journeys
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  Speaker 5: from that point of I'm trying to figure this out
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  Speaker 5: with God to now? I got a four for his family,
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  Speaker 5: I got a ministry. I'm praying every Friday, Like, what
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  Speaker 5: has that journey been for you?
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  Speaker 6: I feel like I'm still trying to figure it out
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  Speaker 6: with God. I feel like the Bible says I want
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  Speaker 6: to say Romans twelve that we're transformed right by the
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  Speaker 6: renew wing. But it's a continuous process and you only
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  Speaker 6: start slipping when you forget that it's a continuous process. So,
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  Speaker 6: you know, like I'm proud, like most of us, or
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  Speaker 6: a lot of a large portion of us, I grew up.
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  Speaker 6: I ain't have a pop around, and so I think
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  Speaker 6: that being I am married, I ain't up getting married.
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  Speaker 6: And we'll talk about that.
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  Speaker 5: I want to know because it did happen fast, because
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  Speaker 5: I was curious they have.
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  Speaker 4: Them super fast.
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  Speaker 6: And then we got married or moth after we came
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  Speaker 6: back from the honeymoon, she was pregnant, you know, and
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  Speaker 6: so it just life just kind of happened fast. And
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  Speaker 6: again I wasn't This is not so something that I
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  Speaker 6: trained for. I didn't have a father telling me, Okay,
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  Speaker 6: when you get married, treat your wife like this, do
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  Speaker 6: your finances like this. This is what wealth looks like.
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  Speaker 6: And so honestly, it's been a journey. I was teaching.
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  Speaker 6: I started teaching at a private high school in East Lake, Wow,
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  Speaker 6: and was teaching biology and chemistry is a grassroots private
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  Speaker 6: high school, so teaching multiple multiple subjects, and then I
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  Speaker 6: ended up getting it to some real estate and we
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  Speaker 6: wanted to do some developing and so starting DIN do news.
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  Speaker 6: I still do music, and so just the whole nine
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  Speaker 6: of doing that. How do I and this is my
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  Speaker 6: constant prayer, how do I do that what I know
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  Speaker 6: God told me to do? But also be a great husband,
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  Speaker 6: be a great father, and hopefully a great brother and
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  Speaker 6: a great friend. So that's kind of where what kaylerb
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  Speaker 6: be is in that journey. I don't know everything. I
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  Speaker 6: don't I'm not a mouseter at everything. I just really
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  Speaker 6: love God. That's why I'm me and I trust him,
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  Speaker 6: you know what I mean. That's since since we was
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  Speaker 6: a coach. Ain't that changed. It's just figuring out, Okay,
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  Speaker 6: oh we didn't try this, we didn't try that, it
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  Speaker 6: didn't work. I'm going to try and trust God and
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna keep growing.
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  Speaker 4: And so that's been there.
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  Speaker 6: So y'all doing real estate of music and all that,
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  Speaker 6: and you know, and I see you.
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  Speaker 5: I see the real estate, I see the music. I
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  Speaker 5: hear the music, and I'm just like you. I love
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  Speaker 5: I love what you do. You do little snippets to
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  Speaker 5: make people linger, like what is what.
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  Speaker 4: Is going on?
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  Speaker 5: Where are you doing your drop something so hot, the
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  Speaker 5: visuals be snapping.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like going on.
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  Speaker 5: So one of the things that you said is like,
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  Speaker 5: because we we some years removed from coach right. And
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  Speaker 5: the thing about it is I love how you say
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  Speaker 5: it's a process. Right. So even for our point, can
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  Speaker 5: you take us back to the point where you met
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  Speaker 5: God and what point you were in?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I think so I was in I was. I
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  Speaker 4: grew up my mama.
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  Speaker 6: We had one of them church, one of them houses
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  Speaker 6: where you had to go to church, and so you know,
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  Speaker 6: you you waking up and it's like you already know
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  Speaker 6: what it is on Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: But I grew up in a single parent home.
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  Speaker 6: So I don't think we, especially if I can be
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  Speaker 6: real as a culture Black people, there are not a
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  Speaker 6: lot of men in the houses, and so I feel
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  Speaker 6: like we're you have to really look at what that's
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  Speaker 6: doing to us as a people group. A lot of us.
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  Speaker 6: I seen my mama in worship with her hands on.
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  Speaker 6: I ain't see a lot of men. What does that
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  Speaker 6: look like? And so I always had that void and
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  Speaker 6: I ended up moving out of my mom's house when
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  Speaker 6: I was like fifteen. I was acting up, you know,
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  Speaker 6: being a knucklehead, and I bounced around. I'm laying on
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  Speaker 6: my grandparents and really start acting up. And in the
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  Speaker 6: midst of that again, because I had experiences in church
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  Speaker 6: around folks that was spirit feeled, I knew. I was like, Man,
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  Speaker 6: this ain't right. And I had hit rock bottom around
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  Speaker 6: my eleventh grade. I was supposed to do some time.
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  Speaker 6: I got called supposed to do some time, and I
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  Speaker 6: never forget. I asked God. I came home and I
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  Speaker 6: asked God, would he be my dad?
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  Speaker 4: I was like, Lord, you.
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  Speaker 6: Know, making mistakes, tripping, I don't know who I am,
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  Speaker 6: and it was, it was.
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  Speaker 4: It was crazy.
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  Speaker 6: So I pray that prayer, like Lord, I don't know
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  Speaker 6: if I you know, sex, I don't know, you know
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  Speaker 6: what stopped having sex?
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  Speaker 4: That don't sound good, you know.
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  Speaker 6: But when you I'm rolling down the hill at this time,
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  Speaker 6: you know, I don't know how you're gonna stop. I'm
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  Speaker 6: rolling down the hill, Lord, on outside you feel me
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  Speaker 6: like you know, and going to the going out? Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: the folks said church, good folks at church going out
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  Speaker 6: and is wrong. I don't see it. Lord, you know
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  Speaker 6: what I'm saying. I just but if you real, maybe
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  Speaker 6: you can change. So I grabbed the Bible, and I
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  Speaker 6: ain't saying, nobody try this at home. I grabbed this
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  Speaker 6: Bible and while I was praying to grab the Bible,
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  Speaker 6: I opened it and I just said, let me see it.
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  Speaker 6: I just let it fall open and I pointed, and
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  Speaker 6: he did this for me. It was Psalms to seven.
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  Speaker 6: I never forget. I just kind of went like this came.
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  Speaker 6: I pointed Psalms to seven and said, behold today, I'll
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  Speaker 6: become your father. You're my son. And at that point
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  Speaker 6: I was like, whoa, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 6: I already knew he was real, just because kind of
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  Speaker 6: how I was raised, but the fact that he would
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  Speaker 6: do that for me at this time in my life,
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  Speaker 6: it just, I mean, oh my goodness, blew me away.
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  Speaker 6: And so I leaned into that. I started kind of
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  Speaker 6: making my way to little Bible studies and I would
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  Speaker 6: have people just kind of clarifying it and be like, hey, man,
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  Speaker 6: God told me that you his son. You know what
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  Speaker 6: I'm saying, Just just on it like that. I think
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  Speaker 6: if from a teacher's standpoint, cis is when God is
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  Speaker 6: showing you love, lean into that. If you get somebody
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  Speaker 6: at the gas station telling about Hey man, I don't
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  Speaker 6: know what it is. It's something about you, you you
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  Speaker 6: special lean into that, you know. Uh, if if you
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  Speaker 6: at church and the pastor preaching and it hits you,
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  Speaker 6: you just don't having to walk in and drawn you
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  Speaker 6: feel me and and and he's talking to you, lean
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  Speaker 6: into it, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: You know? And so I think that's that's kind of
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  Speaker 4: where I'm met with it. Talk to it?
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  Speaker 3: Man, What does lean into that look like? What does
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  Speaker 3: that mean? What do you say?
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  Speaker 4: Lean into good?
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  Speaker 6: It means give it thought, give it opportunity, to give
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  Speaker 6: it creative energy. Right, So so for me, like all right,
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  Speaker 6: I knew he was talking to me. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 6: wait on him to talk to me again, right, I
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  Speaker 6: am going to go towards him any way. I know
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  Speaker 6: how you know what I'm saying. If it's a Bible
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  Speaker 6: study down the street, I want to find out what's
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  Speaker 6: going on down if it's the if that particular pastor
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  Speaker 6: said something that made me, I won't find out who
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  Speaker 6: that is. I won't go there. I want to be
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  Speaker 6: around now if this, if this friend, because you know
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  Speaker 6: how it be. And that's a really good question sometimes
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  Speaker 6: Christian folks, especially at first, they ain't cool.
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  Speaker 4: I ain't.
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  Speaker 6: You be like man, bro you you know, and that's
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  Speaker 6: for two reasons. Some folks that's just who they are.
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  Speaker 6: Then some people sometimes when you still in your stuff,
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  Speaker 6: you so you're so full of.
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  Speaker 4: The other side.
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  Speaker 6: Ain't nothing gonna be cool to you unless you're doing
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  Speaker 6: what you You know what I'm saying, But I feel that
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  Speaker 6: again the leaning in is it's like, okay, man, you
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  Speaker 6: normally ain't my people. You normally wouldn't be who I
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  Speaker 6: would talk to on Saturday night. Really, we don't really
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  Speaker 6: got a lot of and common you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: You don't know what here you you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: And the dress you be wearing, the clothes you be
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  Speaker 6: wearing cool, but it's something about who you are.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 6: I won't I'm I'm ana. I'm gonna hang around because
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  Speaker 6: you remind me of something. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: So I won't be around that because you remind me
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  Speaker 6: of that voice that spoke to me back then.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be around that.
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  Speaker 6: And and God, we talk a lot about worship, Raise
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  Speaker 6: your hand and all that that's worship. God sees that
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  Speaker 6: this person is trying and to get to me. You
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  Speaker 6: know what I mean, They trying to get that's faith.
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  Speaker 6: That's that's all. You know, we got the terminology. That's faith.
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: That's man. I drink, but my partner don't drink. And
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: I feel like God been telling me I need to
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: slow down. This group going somewhere on Saturday. He going
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: to the Bible stad I'm sadday. I'm gonna go with
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: him Jesus in the natural that's a small step, and
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: the other in the other, which is more real than
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: this world, in the spirit world. You don't be knowing
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: what changed that broke just that Saturday Friday night, just
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: me saying, yes, Lord, yeah, I'm gonna go with the
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: home and the Bible study. They'll be mad, you know
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying, So I think we have to. That
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: was my That was my point. I kind of leaned
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: into that when he told me, you know, uh, you're
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: my son, and that was the start of my process.
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: You know, that was the start of me really wanting
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: to know God in a personal way. I wouldn't satisfyed
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: with knowing Him through my mama, my grandmama or another pastor.
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: I was like, man, if I'm feeling really especially telling
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: about sex. You talking about the brother putting put in
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: the Buddha, It's got to be real, you feel.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Love God, they got to be doing something for real.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Lord's got to be real.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: You know what.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: What as you were talking, I just thought about the
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: woman at the whe right. So it's like I believe
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: she knew of you know, a Messiah. Right, I knew
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: she knew of somebody we know of God? Right, the
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: thing to know of God. But when you encounter Jesus, right,
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: that's when the moment of transformation can start. That's when
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: like the process it's like now it's like okay, like
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: I know this is wrong. I don't know why I'm
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: feeling like this. Well, you was doing the same thing before,
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: but when you've made that that encounter, now it's like
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: something that's like switched on.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: God is like, all right, now, let's.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: See what he gonna do it.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: Let's see because and the thing about it is, even
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: with him saying let me see what he gonna do,
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: he's counted victorious.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: Like it's counted as a victory because even at the
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: first of all the practicality that you just had in
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: it like when we break it down on it being
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: small steps, what does that look like? Because I think
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: what's missing a lot of times in our community is practicality.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: Practicality make it it looks difficult. Let's get we ain't
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: gonna have to be big church on this. It looks
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: difficult to pay a bill because I never saw men
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: pay a bill, so I think only women pay bills.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: I don't know what it is to be in a
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: good marriage, so I don't believe in marriage. Get practical
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: for me. Put it in front of me, and literally
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: you're saying that if we put it in front of people,
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: that that then becomes an option, and the options is
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: what is making room for us. It's saying, God, I
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: see where I could choose this, but I think I
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: could do better here because I've done this before and
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: I have destroyed myself and now I want to be
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: on a different path. So I'm gonna choose this because
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: I know what is lead. Sometimes the other option is
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: normally it saves you. And that's what it sounds like.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: You said, you said, you got in some trouble. You
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: said this, and you you start choosing differently. You didn't
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: even this is watch this. You don't even know that
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: it's better until afterwards, Like you just chose differently, and
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: so some of us kind of get on this high
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: horse with it. And I love how you brought up.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: I love how you brought up. Just don't look cool,
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: and that's the important. So how do how do we
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: make that?
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: I feel like this, I feel like, let me backtrack
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: because you said something so dope. I won't say I
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: want to come in because I think I think you
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: hear no something.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: It might be the Lord watch this. We don't.
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: Really, it's not that we choose that we make better decisions.
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: It's we choose Jesus because a better decision is me
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: going over that night and slying over that night. That's
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: that's that's because it makes sense. Me choosing Jesus is
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: I'm going home alone because he not because it feels good,
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: because he's worthy. I'm going home by myself tonight, not
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: because it's popular, but because he deserves it all. I'm
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: not choosing religion. I'm not choosing I'm not choosing church people.
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: I'm not church. I'm choosing Jesus. I'm literally choosing God.
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: I'm choosing because I was in worship and for whatever
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: reason I felt the love of God concerning me, and
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: whatever that was, he let me experience how He feels
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: about me. So I'm not going home and press you,
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: you guys for lack of a better world.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I'm going home.
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: And turning this down because I want to show you.
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: I don't know why this. I don't know if it's
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: scriptural or not yet. I don't know chapping booked to
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: go home. I don't know while I find that out
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: not later. You know, I'm you know, but right now
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: I'm choosing Jesus. You know what I'm saying, And it
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: segue to what you just said. I think that's a
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: part of it. I think choosing Jesus is a lot
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: allow me to keep a lot of who I am
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: as a man.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: I want to.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: Throw this mic in you because no, I'm gonna let
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: you finish, because a lot of times we feel like
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: we lose the better parts of us because we're choosing Jesus.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: But it actually enhanced like the people people like I'm
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: so sorry, no, no, no, be you like man, be
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: in this space, Be in the space that you need
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: to be in so that God can be glorified through
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: you being you, and what the what the enemy tactic
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: is to tell us that God won't accept the person
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: that he created, that he does not accept us for
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: who we are. That's the lie I've been living, Like
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: if I could be honest with you, can like that's
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: been that was has been a that had been a
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: stronghold to where it's like, okay, we talk about imposter syndrome,
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: but that's the root of it. Not believing that God
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: values his creation. Not believing that you were already enough
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: when He formed you in his thoughts, not even in actuality, in.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: The thought it was you bring it out of me.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Like bruh, Like so you're you're talking, You're talking good.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: And so when you had that moment of.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: Practicality of okay, I'm gonna choose differently, what did you
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: start seeing in your process and how did you see
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: yourself changing and altering?
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Like can you give us a picture of that?
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: Because I think we as believers have an opportunity to
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: kind of like give a picture because a lot of
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: us are visuals, visual people, especially the people that listen
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: to just as the podcast, you know, influence and creatives
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: and stuff like that.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: But we need the visual.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: The best example is and I'm gonna go back just
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: to take because I'm telling you you're hearing all some
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: stuff that ain't nobody talking about. Again, what allows us
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: to be cool is that God, God set us apart.
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: Before you were born. I knew you, and I had
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: already said, went, so you're I'm set apart. You're set apart, okay.
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: And so as long as I'm not following a man,
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: it's okay for me to follow the spirit of God
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: and the vision that the spirit of God gave somebody.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: But as long as I'm not following a man, I
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: can be authentically who I am in Christ is right.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: I can win my heat like that, and anything that
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: needs to change, he'll change.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: Now, here's the example, the practicality. I always tell my
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: partners this like this. You remember that game jingle we
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: used to play back in the g So you're playing
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: your jingle, right, So this is how it is. I'm
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: playing jingle and you know you move in the little
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: blocks and you're moving them to the top. Well, the
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: Bible says that God covers us in his righteousness, we'll
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: covered by him, and so what happened a lot of times.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: Is it might be a year or two where you
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: almost like you flawless and you ain't making no real mistakes.
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: You know, you don't have some dubs. You know, I
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: dropped this friend and it don't hurt no more. I
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: had this relationship, It don't hurt no more. You know,
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: I'm winning here, I'm winning there, and you win it
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: and it feels good. What happens is, though, is all
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: of a sudden, one day you slipp because somebody out
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: or you slip and go back to something that you
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: thought out it was old with. And this is why
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: it's important to be around community. This reason why you
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: need to be listening to just this podcast.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: You need to be on.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: It because if you stay stuck in that fall, you're
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: gonna be in trouble.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: With God does is well.
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: And this's what he did for me is when it
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: was time for me to change, he would pull a block.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: He will uncover the jingle and he would pull him though.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: It's not me, it's not the devil, it's not my
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: my friends, it's not you know, people that don't like me.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: It's God.
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: He would pull a block, and you know when you
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: pull that block from the bottom and.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: You shake it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, snap, cause said I fined him off.
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: I gotta tell my partners, I'm telling folk. By God,
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: I just slapped somebody.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You know what I mean?
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: You know when I can't even you feel it's like whoa?
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: I'm like, man, just things are happening in different phases
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: of life, things that you thought you had already kind
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: of overcome.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: And it's not the devil, It's not it's not.
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: What it is is we're covered by his You are
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: not as pretty as you think you are.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: I am as anointed as I think I am.
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: It's God covering me. And here is the master surgeon.
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: So when it's time for me to, as a young
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: young kid, say lovel Lord, when it's time for me
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: to go to that next level, what he will do.
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: He'll un He'll move the veil and he'll pull at
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: the bottom and say, okay, right here. You still depending
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: on people to validate you. Let me move that either way?
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: Oh oh you still you still are a little bit selfish?
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: You really don't want pastor for real?
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: For real?
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: You really doing it so people can see you let me.
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: I'm I'm gonna make it so why I'm gonna make
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: it so we.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Gonna pull it out.
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: And now now you don't got no Now you wobbling
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: and you know what you're doing. When you can't stand,
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: you go back to which you grabbed the Lord. Now
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: I got to hold him because now I don't know
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: what I'm gonna do. Because that's it, Jesus, that's it.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Lean, that's it, understand But in all that way.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: That's not acknowledging. That's it.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: And he will direct your path, that's it.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: So that's that's that's kind of that journey for me.
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: Even when we was at Coach, I was experiencing man,
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: I hadn't I wasn't dating at that time, and so
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: I'm saying, you know, I'm trusting, I'm like God man.
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: So since I had got seized by my relationship with
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: God Brother, I hadn't even I have brother, ain't kissed.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: I stopped kissing you. I remember you saying holding girl hands.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: I went doing that.
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: I was like, man, Lord, I just want to I
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: grew up and I kind of grew up seeing my
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: mom deal with some things, and I ain't want to
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: be that man. I was that man for a minute,
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: and when I got my chance to be different, I
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: won't be different, you know, I won't be different.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: But they were getting hard, and so I feel like
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: I learned.
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: I learned so much about Kleb in that time, and
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: so I learned that wait a minute, I don't really
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: know what femininity is for to me at that point.
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: For a long while in my life, being a Christian being,
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: loving God, being a spirit, feel needed my mind renew
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: really thinking femininity is for me, like this is this
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: is something that the lady is supposed to be like
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: I needed, I need to help me.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: She needed what an iron is? She gonna aaron what?
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: What can she could like? I'm trying that you need dost.
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: I remember being so sexually disturbd one. I was just like, man, lord,
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: you ain't creative, right, that's the problem.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And I remember he told me,
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: he was like, listen, you ain't even know what sex
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: is for you.
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: You gonna you're gonna you gonna get into some I'm
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: helping out now, You're gonna get into some stuff. You're
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: gonna miss some stuff up because you don't really know
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: what it's for. You know what I'm saying. You have
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: no idea you're gonna get married. You need to trust
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: me and lean not until your understanding. And so I
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: would go through those seasons where again, like I just
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: felt like, man, okay, I got it under control, and
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: God would, in all his care and in his mercy,
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: be like, man, let me help you out. Let me
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: help you out. You know I'm gonna say that. Then
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: I'm done. I'm dumb listening.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Y'all.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: I don't I know y'all in the coming is going
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: crazy right now? Like bro, Like, okay, okay, that was
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: your pause to give people a breath, because you have
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: taken it.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: You're taken every of it. Let snatch my edge and everything.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: I'm like Jesus on my street. Okay, okay, tag you.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: I remember.
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: I remember, I remember being single, and I remember I
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: had went to the moves with this young lady. And
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: this is how long ago it was. It was it
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: was when Jango came out. So we went to go
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: see Jango. We get to the moves.
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: Ain't nobody in there, bro, that's the dangerousations you fear.
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: Ain't nobody. So I'm looking around like man ain't nobody here.
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: But she was cool, really cool girl. And we had
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: one of them platonic situations, like we weren't really we
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: weren't doing nothing.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: At all, but it was in the air, right. She
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: loved God, I love God.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: It was just can we we talked like, you know,
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: you know, so we go see Django and she's awesome,
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: this girl all the who you know, really sweet girl.
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: Were sitting there, we sitting in the movie theater, and
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: obviously we both kind of light at each other. And
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: I never forget she uh, she put her on around me,
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying in the movie theater.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: And I don't even like she soup plays. I don't know.
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: It's just in one minute we were both like this,
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: and then in the next minute, I was just kind
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: of in this bullsom like this. I'm in it like this.
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: I'm just kind of sitting there like you know what
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: I'm saying. And I remember telling myself because I went,
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: I hadn't done that in a minute. I hadn't been
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: that close to a female like that in a minute.
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: And I remember thinking, like this feels good, this, this
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: feels right. You know what I'm saying, This this is
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: going somewhere, this is it, and the movie is playing,
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: you know, like I know at this point, it don't
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: really matter what what what the movie is about at
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: this point, just we just vibe, you know. And I
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: remember the Lord saying move her hand, and uh, I'm like, man,
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: you know you ever heard him say something? You try
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: You're like, first I go through, I'm like, man, let
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: me see if it's him for real, because there's so
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: many things that could be going on in your mind.
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, man, it's probably you need to move
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: her hand. I know it's himseling. Okay, So then I said, well,
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: ain't that wrong with this number?
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Way?
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: Ain't nobody in here that I know? And even if
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: it was, I'm not no deacon, I'm not no pastor.
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: I don't you know.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: That's not me Like we're not doing thating wrong, it's straight.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: Let me just and I never forget he said, you
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: see yourself for who you are today. I don't see
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: you like that. I see you for what you are
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: becoming and who you will be, which to me is
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: who you already are. Move her hand, And I remember
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: having a you know, get up out of there like
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: that and sit straight. I think that is the privilege
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: of walking with Jesus is having a coach who is
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: already treating you like a national champion, Caleb, even though
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: you you know.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: What I'm saying, He's treating you like you.
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: And we're so busy wanting to be the national champion,
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: wanting to get the training that we think the national
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: champion is getting, wanting the world the gear or get
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: the supplements that we think the national champion.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: You already getting that private.
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: Come on, when we were talking about it earlier, you
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: know the Lord it be preparing be preparing us in private.
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I think a lot of
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: those small decisions that we make, to her point something
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: that she said earlier, a lot of those small decisions,
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: those decisions are preparing you for big moments. So when
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: the big moment comes come on, You've already made a
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: hard decision. Back here, I've already told the love of
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: my life, I can't be with you no more. So
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: when I come up here and it's it's a little
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: money on the table, it ain't hard to say, and
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: I don't want that because back here in my bed,
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: I had tears in my eyes and I had to
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: tell somebody, I don't know why I can't talk to
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: you no more. I don't know why we can't be
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: I don't know why I can't go with you, bro,
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: I want to. I know we come from the same
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: I don't know why I can't fool with you no more.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: But I can't.
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: So when I get up here in front of people,
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: it's not that hard because Abraham had already said he
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: had already put his first Ishmael or he had already
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: told Ishmail I.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Can't and put her mama out.
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: That probably scarred that made so when Isaac comes, see,
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: we're thinking Isaac is the big thing.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: Ishmael he had to put Ismil his first barn out right.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: But this is all through Cannon, This is all through
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: the Bible.
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: God always is setting his people up in the wilderness moments.
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: And so when it comes to us seeing a big decision,
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: oh man, I just can't believe they stood on God's word.
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: At that time. You didn't see us, when we didn't
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: know who we were. We was in the darkness. We
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: had to believe him. In the darkness. He was talking
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: about something Stop had said. He was talking about hangout
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: over here, he was talking about beef. He talking about
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: some start of podcast with what.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: Money, what money, woo whoo.
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: And so in the future, when the budget come, when
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: the big budget comes, you ain't see me.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying.
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: So that's the privilege of being I feel like that
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: we have I've been able to experience with God. It's
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: being able to trust him when nobody's looking and allowing
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: and trusting that the things that he's doing inside of
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: me as a man, as a young man, as a man, now.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: That they gonna bless me in the future. You know
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I trust you, Lord.
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: I don't understand, I don't get it all the time,
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: but I trust.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: You, you know. I just I'm gonna keep trusting. So
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: that that's that's my spool, that's my spill.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Like you just you just say something little you come
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: here with.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: Sadly he coming here with with with with the God
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: that we found over there in our ran.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: Older than pistols.
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: Nah, that's where were you about to say something? Because
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: I think I think the places that you're taking us
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: right now are so needed. For one, we need some
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: we need believers to look like us, like we need
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: to believe us look like us. We're you know, being
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: in the podcast summit we heard we were able to
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: experience God without its being a church conference.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: One of the things I love about those experiences is
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: God proves himself everywhere that He is evident everywhere. And
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: so even in this conversation, you're proving that even in
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: our spiral down moments, even in our moments where we
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: feel like we're not enough, even in the moments where
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: we're like God, I'm just not getting this thing right,
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: you're saying. This is what I hear you saying. That
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: it's all to build the muscle so that when I
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: go to the heavyweight lifting, I do it with ease.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: It says, for my yoke is easy. And so this
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: is so good. I even just got a visual of that.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: We're preparing ourselves for the ease, and that is in
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: itself is so powerful because we're dealing with the community,
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: especially in Birmingham. We talk about it's a lot of
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: things going in Birmingham right now. The unnecessary killing. I mean,
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: when I say killing, and it's been on my heart,
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: I didn't say it's probably another time, but unnecessarily killing,
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: unnecessary confrontation, what do you think? I know we're talking
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: about heaving on God right now, and I hate to switch,
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: but I know that you recently lost a few people.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: To what the gun violence? What?
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: What?
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: I'm curious to know what your thoughts are?
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: What?
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: What do we need to do? What is the answer?
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: So I have probably some some I have very very
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: radical opinions about because I have been affected by gun violence.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: I have been affected by black on black violence.
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: I tend to believe that as a people, we need
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: to start to do something about it. I think there
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: is a narrative, whether we think it's small or big,
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: that other people groups should do something about us. If
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: me and you we stay across the street from each other, ah,
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: I can't tell Jessica what.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: To do in her house. That's her house. You see
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And you.
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: Can't come outside and say, kay, lob man's thinking him?
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: What I look like coming over there saying just are
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: we outside? You just mold your gras? My grass?
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: Yay hot?
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. And I say, justin and
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: my grass? So how would you think I'll do about it?
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: And you like, if you try cutting it. Man, I
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: just I just don't understand. And plus it's it's a
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: grasshopper in the grass. I like, it's it's always an
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: excuse or why I can't cut my grass. And so
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: I'm always coming back to a reason. I got a
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: good reason, but my rash is still high. And so
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: for me, it's like, Man, we lived in East Laate.
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: We got married, and we moved. I moved my family
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: to East Lake and the school that I was teaching
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: that was I could throw a football at the school in.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: The hood right at Southeast Lake, you know what I'm saying.
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: And so, and we had drive bys, we had I
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: mean it was broad daylight we had I mean it
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: was it was.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: It was like that.
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: And being saved and living in that is different between
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: just kind of being a part of right. And so
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: I got my wife and my kid, you know what
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: I'm saying. That I started realizing, like, ain't like people
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: don't wanna call police. Man, since I laid on the horn,
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: I'm calling police night and day.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: I heard Rick Achell of a gunshot.
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: I'm on the horn. They got to the point where
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: they knew what it was. They come over my house. Mister,
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: So we just thank you.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: Police. Start.
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: I think like we'll hang cameras outside because you're the
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: way you are. We ain't have no street light on
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: on it's a it's a pole with a with a pole,
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: ain't no light on it. I'm in front of my house,
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: so my part of the street dog ain't no. You
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, Man, I call I'm looking at
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: my wife, she's pregnant. I'm like, man, I'm not finna
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: be over here and come outside the dog I call them.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, let's let's get this home. You know what
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. What you do.
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: But it's the same thing from a spiritual standpoint. If
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: we're truly to light, if we're a people of God
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: and He made us black, it's our job to change
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: the culture, period, no matter, no matter.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: I don't care slavery.
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: And and and and and all and and what our
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: people have been through. We shouldn't you. We can't use
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: that as an excuse. That should be a push to
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: get us even more, make us even more competitive in
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: the market world, even more competitive.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I mean, so I think
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: for real, just to.
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: Go through all that, I really would love to see
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: it not be cool to be a criminal, you know
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying. And I feel like as a black man,
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: like I was a I was a victim of that
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: and I wasn't right when I was young, I wasn't right.
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: There were there were things that I did that I
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: deserved to be in jail. And I did it because
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: it was popular. The music said it was popular. A
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: lot of the movies we was watching said it was popular.
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: It was the thing to do. So you got a
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: lot of us running around with no pops. We're looking
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: for role models. A lot of us that have doctors
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: and lawyers in our neighborhood. If you missed your school,
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: boss the weed man took you to school, you know
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: The door the dog man took you to school in his.
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: Chevy, the one, and you ride like this and he
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: probably threw you a little bread, you know what I'm saying.
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: So who you think you want to emulate as you
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: get older? So I think criminality through music. And where
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: they play the music at at the pelt radis at
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: the football practice, where they playing the music, where they
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: were at the house. How are we gonna complain about
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: gun Vine? When I be hearing them song man, I
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: can't listen to that stuff, man, like I can't. I can't,
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: I can't. It ain't even funning it. And it's probably
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: where I get kind of controversial that, but I have
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: lost people, and it has radicalized the kind of the
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: way I think. When I hear certain New when I
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: hear the New any of their music and I hear
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: them go to talk about shooting, I be thinking, who
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: who them guns for? It ain't for Spencer, right, it's
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: not for Timothy. Wow, them gunshots ain't coming for Timothy
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: them gunshot? So who they talking about when they talking
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: about they gonna pull up.
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: And in an op?
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: The op nine times out of ten, here last name
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: ain't Lebalwitz, it's not Cohendon. Nine times out of ten
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: them ain't the ops. That ain't their last name.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: So we are a whole group of people who.
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: Are our Our enemy is another black man, and now
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: it's y'all.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Now it's starting to be y'all. The violence is starting.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: To be extremely violent to women and children and children.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Nobody's safe.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: So that's for me.
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: I just kind of feel like since we have got
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: the start being like that's it's not cool. Only one
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: here that music. I don't want to I don't want
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: to hear that. Don't play that music around me. We
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: got start being at the lit League football practice and say, hey, coach, Hey, coach,
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: whether you're doing a good job. Hey, my son can't listen.
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: I don't want him listening to that out here. He
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: can't listen to that because he coming home asking me
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: what this word means, what that word means? He doing
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: the little symbols he now now he throwing up stuff.
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: Don't We don't know what that is. You got people
• 49:25
  Speaker 6: getting you know what I'm saying. Until we start treating
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: it like that, it ain't going nowhere because we don't
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: want to go nowhere from me.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: Listen because we like what we're hearing.
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: That's it, And we're saying in actuality, we're saying that
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: what we consume doesn't affect us. I literally, I'm so
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: glad this happened this morning because this is a perfect example.
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: So my sister and I have been watching Insecure right
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: and we haven't we haven't seen I hadn't seen it.
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: I couldn't get into it right, and we was always
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: we had to literally looked at each other for one
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: we was like, man, it's a lot of sex scenes
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: in here.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: The storyline is good.
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: Like I was like, oh, she's writing, but it's a
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: lot of sex scenes in here, and so we've already
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: discovered that or whatever. But so I get ready for today, right,
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: get ready for today, and I got a little nervous.
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: You know, I always get anxiety a little bit before
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: I interview people whatever, because I just want to always
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: just perfect the craft or I want to do a
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: good job and I want to just leave a lasting impression.
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: I want people to feel good. So I'm in my
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: head like okay, okay. So I get out of the shower,
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: I'm getting ready and I look at the mirror and
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: I go say, I'm d Jessica.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: It is Smith.
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: I'm the Jessica is Smith, the just Smith, and I'm vibing.
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: And then the Holy Spirit immediately took me. I said,
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: he said, where you get that from? I've been watching Insecure. Literally,
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: if you don't know what insecure, the Theaysel Ray does
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: for Insecure. In moments of anxiety or frustration or anger
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: or things that she needs to pump herself about, she
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: gets in the mirror and starts rapping I have never
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: done that. I've never done it felt good. I think
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: that was a good thing to take from it. But
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: I still can't separate everything that I see, So I
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: have to dispose. Literally, I have to be like, Okay,
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: that was not good the best scene for me to
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: watch right then, But I'm glad I got the goodness
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: out of it. Everybody is not capable of doing this.
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: And basically, what you're saying is the music is saying
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: it's telling my my my subconscious what to do. The
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: music and the things that it's not even just the music,
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: is what what am I consuming? Because it could be
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: horrible podcasts, it could be horrible preachers, horble coked churches.
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: I'm not We're not finna act like everybody that says
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: the name knows who he is. It's Bible, right, And
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: so when we think about the consumption, why do we
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: think that we can con assume something and what you
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: consume does not eventually come out. So you're telling me
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: that you're just custompated. You're telling me you don't have
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: a release. You telling me that you're defeating science. This
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: is if we go scientifically, I'm calm, I'm with you.
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: If we go scientifical. What you digest, you're supposed to
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: have bowel movements, and if you ain't so bad, you're
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: gonna smell it like you're going to smell it. Oh, literally,
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: i think we gotta get out of this place. I'm sorry,
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: I'm probably hollering your ear. I'm so sorry.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: I get excited. I get excited.
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: But literally, we have to get to a place where
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: we take responsibility of what we're consuming. And then we
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: get to these artists and we're blaming artists, but we
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: keep feeding the artists. That is interrupting the goal of
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: what we're doing. What if what if we took our
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: power back?
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: Hold hold, hold on, I'm sorry you got to say
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: that again. Sis, you said something this, you said the
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: artists are doing what.
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: We are basically feeding the artists that's giving us the consumption.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: So money is money spending. I don't know.
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: I don't know about your money with money spend and
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: they gonna spend money. You're investing, thank you, You're literally investing.
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: You're backing something that you're you're confused about. So just
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: like your example, I'm listening to music. All you need
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: all Apple music make it easy. You just pay the
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: pay the little fine every month or whatever.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: I'm listening.
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: I'm choosing my streaming services to gear towards the artistry
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: that is defiling my community.
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: And you said, you said you have a goal. That's
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: what you just said, and this this is what that
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: might be while we're here. You said, I have a goal,
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: but I'm listening to an artist that's going against the goal.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: Manes that's it.
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: I know what I'm supposed to be doing, but I'm
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: listening it to somebody who everything. They're saying, it's sixteen bars.
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: Uh bump your goal for real?
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: The hook? Come on your goal? You wonna be married?
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: Come on you you.
• 54:17
  Speaker 6: You abstinate and you listening to it? Now you know
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: you got a goal. That's what you say. That's that
• 54:23
  Speaker 6: might be while we sitting at this table, because that's
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: what is going on. Ain't nobody waking up to die?
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: Ain't nobody waking up. Nobody's waking up. They've been asking
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: for six months and they not only do they they slipped,
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: but they slipped.
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: To a bomb.
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: Ain't nobody doing that? Ain't nobody doing that? Nobody's doing that.
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: But when you watch what you watch, or you listen
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: to what you're listening to. You you have your goal
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: and society culture. You are allowing culture to step between
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: you and the goal.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: Can I make it?
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: Can I get a little spiritual? I'm gonna do it,
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: and this is gonna be the most spiritual I get. Well,
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: we gotta understand that when as soon as you start
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: loving God, you need to understand how.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: God kind of wild us.
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: All right, So for all my Christians out there, you
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: need to understand you love God, you gotta understand that
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: God wire us a seed. He puts everything in seeds inside.
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: The seed is the tree, and the tree is the fruit.
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: The fruit is the seed, seed, the tree, fruit, tree.
• 55:35
  Speaker 6: So what happens is is that we are made to
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: embody a stimulus. So when God does something to us,
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: he'll give you love. If you experience love, you embody
• 55:52
  Speaker 6: love and then you embody it so that you can
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: pass it down. Right, you experience the seed of love,
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: you incubate that seed, you become love, and then I'm
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: able to pass love down to my kids. So I
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: feel it. It happens to me. This is how we
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  Speaker 6: wire as people. Whether you good or bad, whether whatever
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  Speaker 6: that is, whatever you know, you experience it you embody it,
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: and then you pass it down to the to the
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  Speaker 6: next generation, to your boss, to your coworkers.
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  Speaker 4: When when you experience.
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  Speaker 6: Hatred, we already know that's all you've ever had was hatred.
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  Speaker 6: We already know how you're gonna treat your kids because
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: that's all you've ever experienced. You're gonna be that person. Man,
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  Speaker 6: I hated the way my mama did me like that,
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: and then you're gonna find yourself in a tangent ten
• 56:44
  Speaker 6: years later that gotta sound just like and then you
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  Speaker 6: you're gonna start seeing it six years later in your
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  Speaker 6: kids because you passing that down.
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  Speaker 4: It's the same way with Lord.
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  Speaker 6: If you are loved being loved properly, you're going to
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: start loving people properly, and then the people that are
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: involved with you are going to start loving people. When
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: we are listening to this music, watching movies, they're supposed
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: to be harmless. I'm telling you Ephesis two, the ruler
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  Speaker 6: of this world. I ain't trying to get to you
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  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, But the rule of this world
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: Epheesis two.
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  Speaker 4: You are literally taking in his stuff. That's his stuff.
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: Ain't nobody again, nobody plans to come outside, get their
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: car shot up. Nobody plans to get a phone call
• 57:35
  Speaker 6: and say, man, he's dead. How many times they shot eight?
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: Shot him ten times? Nobody plans that. But if I
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: am allowing myself to see this over and over and
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: over and over, and I'm listening to this, I'm watching this,
• 57:51
  Speaker 6: that world ain't even real. That's not even a real,
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: But we are making it real because it's coming in up.
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  Speaker 4: We're real. So when I'm whyre.
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  Speaker 6: Movies on, watching Insecure and I keep seeing them sex
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  Speaker 6: scenes like that, before I know it, I'm like, man,
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  Speaker 6: you know little music, you know, a little vine. I'm
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  Speaker 6: at Walmart. You know what I'm saying. Oh man, he
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: kind of looked like she kind of looked like, you
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  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. Like, next thing, you know, I'm
• 58:21
  Speaker 6: in that situation. I have manifested that situation because I've
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: been feeding myself that situation. That's why the Bible says, man,
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: whatever is good, whatever is right, whatever, think on these things.
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  Speaker 4: Meditate on this word day and night so they to
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: be in your heart.
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: You We're meditating God's word, why it'll come out, so
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: that it'll come out. What we're doing in our culture
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: where we And it's sad part about it, ain't it
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: ain't even us black. A lot of black people are
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: not writing this, are not financing the violent music. A
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: lot of black people aren't finding answing. A lot of
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: these shouls that's not us.
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  Speaker 4: We're not.
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  Speaker 6: We had the million dollar contract to buy all this stuff,
• 59:09
  Speaker 6: make this stuff work like this, A lot of stuff.
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: This is not us. We have to fight that narrative.
• 59:14
  Speaker 6: If we think about it, marriage, we need to make
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: it popular.
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  Speaker 4: The more we fight.
• 59:27
  Speaker 6: To make it popular, the more we will get married, wealth, entrepreneurship,
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: all these things.
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: And you can see it happen.
• 59:36
  Speaker 6: The more black people want to step out there and
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: do things, the more of us do it. Culture the
• 59:41
  Speaker 6: violent culture that we have, and honestly, man, I feel
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: like it's an over sexualized culture. If we begin to
• 59:47
  Speaker 6: combat those things, I believe that stuff up, it'll go away.
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: It has to.
• 59:53
  Speaker 6: If we start submitting that stuff to Christ and live
• 59:55
  Speaker 6: and how we live and now, that stuff will go away.
• 59:58
  Speaker 6: And people are saying the magically go away, but we
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: know it would happened. We just need to start somewhere.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: But until we make up our minds at homes and
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 6: be like man listen. I ain't even watch that. I
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: know y'all watch that. I know you think that's cool.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 6: I'm not gonna watch that. I'm done watch this. I'm
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 6: done from the get go. God said I set you apart.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 6: I set you apart, and that's his thing since Genesis.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 6: Y'all gonna the devil is active in the world. Excuse
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 6: me for being this. You know this really religion.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: You know this.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: The enemy is active. But I've set a part. I've
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: set you apart. If you are over here, you don't
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: even have to experience.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: This stuff.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: Before our marriage, I had people saying, bro nice guys
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: finished last.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: You ain't on, you ain't on. You ain't on, you
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: ain't on.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: You ain't you ain't I heard it, but I was
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: hanging around too many married people.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: I wasn't at the club.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 6: I had'd stopped going out, so I didn't see folks
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: getting their heart broke like that. No more wow to me.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 6: I'm like, man, because they get married like it's.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: Working for them.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying it's easy, but I'm saying I'm saying
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 6: because I'm hanging out where God want me to hang out.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: I'm not. I would hear people call. I have partners
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: calling me in.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: You know, I managin no, no, no, I ain't really
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: listening to that because you said it a lot of times.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: We're entertaining things that are antagonistic to our goal. Man,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 6: if God said I'm the head of not to tell,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: I'm not entertaining things that saying anything different, even if
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 6: it made me feel good, I won't listen a little.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: You know, we had Gucci. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 6: Jesus and I I remember Power came out.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: I'll you know I wanted to watch Power. I remember Powerful.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: I wanted to watch but I was like, man, I
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: cannot go back. I cannot be sitting. I know God
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: got too much. He didn't show me too much for
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 6: me to be getting fingerprinted again. He didn't show me
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 6: too much for me to be in the backhand, cause I've.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: Seen too much this before.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 6: All man, I've seen I can actually have a family.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: I come from sitting in a cell and a man
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 6: pin you know, you just himself saying so I'm thinking,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 6: and you're telling me I can have a family.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: H Why would I watch Power and see them win?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: Selling dope?
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  Speaker 3: Sir, You're you're what I'm doing that.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: Why why am I gonna.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 6: Hang around y'all And here y'all had these fun experience
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: excuse me having threesomes and y'all having fun and having fun,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 6: and I need to go hang around y'all. No, because
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 6: low key, I know, I know what they'll look like,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: and I know how you feel a week afterwards. I
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 6: know you took too much pency. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: I know what you got going on over that. Don't
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 6: drink my water.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: So it's fun.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: Now we've been there, right, we seeing I've seen that movie.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 6: I'm not gonna even hang around. And it's not that
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 6: I'm being I'm not being like that. It's just I
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: gotta he showed me something, right, And this is why
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 6: I'm going. You know what I'm saying, I'm going this way.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 6: The only the only section I see us doing this
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: in is with the We don't do that. Nobody does
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 6: that in business. If you're if you're in finance, you
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: don't let a person in in in retail stop you
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 6: from uh doing your finance. Come on, if you're in retail,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 6: you don't let somebody stop you. In the food industry,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 6: you know, don't say, man, you got a food conference. Well,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm gonna stop my retail stuff to go
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 6: to your food conference. That it don't work like that.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 6: I'm here for a reason. I've got years of experience
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 6: over here, I got this relationship.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: I'm going this way.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 6: You keep doing what you're doing with all win with
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: God's word when God tells, that's the only place we
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: compromise what we feel like. Man, I know God told
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: me do this. I'm gonna I'm gonna listen to this
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 6: this friend who we know and we know we know.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: He ain't say I know, Bro, don't know what I'm
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 6: talking about. He don't you know what I'm talking about?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 6: Over here, his eyes closed. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 6: That's all I'm saying, Man, That's all I'm saying.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: You know, I can appreciate this conversation because sometimes you
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: don't have like you said. Sometimes you just led to
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: do something. You really know why. So a lot of
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: times I don't watch I got TV, and honestly, the
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: TV on the wall right now just because it got
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: lights on the back and I like the light to
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: shine with the TV right but the TV very rarely comes.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: Ones could be laughing.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: At me because she said, I've been in third Heaven
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: all day, all day, right, that's because I'm listening to
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: worship music or instrumental music, or I'm listening to the word.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: Because I know the struggles that I have, right, and.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 5: I know if I allow certain things in my eyes
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: and in my in my in my ears, it's gonna
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: make it's gonna take my mind to places that my
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: mind don't need to be. So I'm very intentional about
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: the things that I do allow into my into my
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: into my gates, you know what I'm saying. And so
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: even just the other day, I was doing what you
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: were supposed to be doing. I was driving and scrolling on.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: But the very first post that came up, and I
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: don't even know what the captions was, Okay, it was
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: very very sexual. It was like almost like sex scenes
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: and this whatever this video thing was, and I just
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: immediately remember I shut my phone off, like whoo. And
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: in that moment, I just begin to pray, not that
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: he'd take any of the desires away, but I was like,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: I begin to thank him for like my husband, Lord,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: I thank you that I don't have to you know,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: I can have certain experiences with my husband and X
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: Y and Z because my flesh be fleshing, you know
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying. And so it's I think it's just
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: so important that you are very You are your own gatekeepers.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: And I think the society that we're in just makes
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: everything okay. And if we're gonna be believers, there are
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: certain things that we have to stand on that are
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: not okay, that are not okay. And so you just
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: get you just helped my life because just started it.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: But you said, why are we entertaining things that goes
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: against our goals? So if our goal is to follow Christ,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: this does not look like Christ? So why are we
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: okay with that?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: Black and white?
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we so great. We made out of my mouth.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: We make it so pray, we make it so great.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Cale, I'm sure. Bro.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: I warn her. I warned as a rain I want.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: I tried to warn her. Jesus.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: She tried to do her little research on people that
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: we get and you ain't on social media like that.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: You don't listen. So if y'all going to look for it,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: I think you got prayer every Friday. That's where they
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: can find you at Friday. I think it's seventeen o seven.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: I want to say is I will put.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: It in this, we will put it into the bio
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: or in the description.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 6: Praying six forty five. Every Friday, it's a group of
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 6: us coming in and pray. It's a little family, little
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 6: family environment, and.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: We just pray.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 6: Man, we prayed, hang out afterwards. That's really really cool.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 6: And so it's just fellowship. We get in there, we
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: read the Bible together, talk about scripture, encourage each other,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: spend time and prayer, and we get out of the man.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: That's about it.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: So if you're looking for him, you're gonna find him
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: praying and fellowship and okay, And if you want to
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 5: do something different, if you want to do you want
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: to choose something, come on, come to come to pray,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: come pray and read the Bible on a Friday. It's
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: pim that's pim' not drinking over there. So you can stay,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: you can stay sober. You that part.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: Do something different, do something different. This is so good.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: Sokayler, I'm scared to do this, Lord jeesezs okay. So
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: traditionally we end the podcast with a thought from the guests.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: If they watched this entire episode and get anything. If
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: they didn't leave, if they didn't hear anything else, what
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: would you want them to digest?
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: I think it's what you said. I really do. Man.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: I think you said that.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: If God gave you a goal, if God.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: These devices, we want to do well.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 6: But I feel like if God, if God, Yeah, if God,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 6: and this isn't part. So if God shows you something,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 6: and you know, for a lot of us we was
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: lost and so all of a sudden you got a
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 6: little home and beacon and you don't even know how
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 6: to describe. But if God shows you something, we have
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 6: to fight two entertain things, not to entertain things that
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: are going in the opposite direction of what God showed us.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 6: I think that's the most important thing in my life
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 6: about who I am. And it's dope that you said
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 6: that because I am very black and white. So when
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 6: I got serious about God, that was it. It was
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 6: just like, bro, I'm chasing God that that I want.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 6: I want to. I want to experience everything he got
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 6: for me. If he's real, I want to. I want
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 6: to be with him. And I think that's what what
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 6: we we The kind of the summaryward was like, if
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 6: I don't want to entertain things. I don't want to
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 6: play with things that are outside of what I know
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 6: God wants for my life.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 6: I think that's the biggest thing about tonight, Uh, my
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 6: time with you guys. I believe it's a word from
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 6: the Lord that he show he's showing us something. He's
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 6: showing us things, and he doesn't have for him to
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 6: even be He's God, but he don't have to be nice.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 6: He just so happened to be sweet and merciful and
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 6: full of love. So if he steps down in from
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 6: eternity any time and and gives you a piece of hope,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 6: a little drop of something, man, take that. I got married.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 6: I came from an abusive household. I seen some things
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 6: growing up, did some things. I took a little word
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 6: from God just I had a little piece of something,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 6: and that turned me into a family man, you know
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 6: what I mean? And from well from all my partners
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 6: that no, no, he's able, you know.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: So that's it.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 6: If God tell you something, don't entertain stuff that's not
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: Don't look back, right, I don't look back, that would
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: be it.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, clap, go ahead, clap on your couch. Clap on
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: your car. You if you can't say nothing else, just n.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: Just waving hands.
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  Speaker 6: Man.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: I normally don't do this, but this dese ray is
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 5: my witness. The people that normally watch this is my witness.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: If this is something that has inspired you, are giving
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 5: you what you need. I don't know why I feel
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: led to do this, and you know we have a heart.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: I have a hard time doing this, but I'm giving
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: you the opportunity to sew. We we were just talking
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: about sowing into the music, so into entertainment. That is
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: defiling what we're going against the goals. But I know
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: what this platform is doing, and we bring people in
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: like Caleb to rejuvenate us. We're here once a week,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: but there's a lot of things that go on during
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: the week before y'all even experience this, and the finances
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: will fuel this even more. And so if your heart
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: is open, I don't really do this. If your heart
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: is open and you feel lit the soul on the
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: bottom of the description.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: In the description, you will.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 5: Find ways to cash up or PayPal and it will
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: go back until this fertile ground. I believe that the
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: Lord is reviving people here. I believe that the Lord
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: is giving us new directions I give us. I believe
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: that the Lord has given us a new opportunity to
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: do relationship the way he wants to do relationship with us,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: and so this is your opportunity. I also feel that
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: if you don't know God, if you don't know this
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: Jesus that we're talking about, if you don't have relationship,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: if you dibble in dabble, I've done my dabbling and
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  Speaker 5: dabbling right. If you're even in a space we got,
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  Speaker 5: I would encourage you to take the steps right, just
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  Speaker 5: if you just say, Jesus here I am. I don't know,
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  Speaker 5: but I know you know, and so I give it
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  Speaker 5: back all to you. God, forgive me, forgive me what
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  Speaker 5: I've done, knowingly and unknowingly right, the things that I
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  Speaker 5: know to be sins and the things that I don't
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  Speaker 5: know to be sin right. I fallen short, obviously. But
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  Speaker 5: I heard about your grace. I heard about Caleb's testimony.
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  Speaker 5: I heard about this longevity of relationship. I heard about
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  Speaker 5: this love who. I heard about this love. I heard
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  Speaker 5: about your heart. I heard about it, and I want
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  Speaker 5: to change.
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  Speaker 3: I want something different.
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  Speaker 5: So it be unto you, Oh my God, so it
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  Speaker 5: be unto you. It is your portion. You're not a failure.
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  Speaker 5: That's not how God sees you. You heard the Man
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  Speaker 5: of God say that God sees you as a champion.
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  Speaker 5: He doesn't treat you as the defeated person that you
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  Speaker 5: might feel like right now. But he sees the victory
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  Speaker 5: in you. And so this is an extension. I pray
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  Speaker 5: that if you've made the decision, feel free to say
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  Speaker 5: it out loud. We come into agreement, and we'll pray
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  Speaker 5: for you. We'll pray for you, and we'll keep you
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  Speaker 5: in our prayers. And so it's not by happenstance that
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  Speaker 5: you made it this far in the episode. It's not
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  Speaker 5: by happenstance that you even came to this space. And
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  Speaker 5: if you know somebody that needs this, I dare you
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  Speaker 5: to share it. I dare you to share it. God
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  Speaker 5: is so good and so if anything else, thank you Caleb,
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  Speaker 5: thank you, Desiree, Thank you God. And every week we're
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  Speaker 5: back at the same space. So remember until next week.
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  Speaker 5: Remember this life could be much more simple if you
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  Speaker 5: just asked see you next week.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for tuning in to this week's episode.
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  Speaker 1: Since you've made it this far, you might as well
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  Speaker 1: connect with us on all social media platforms at the
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  Speaker 1: Jessica S.
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  Speaker 5: Smith.
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  Speaker 3: I know I won't see you back.
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  Speaker 1: Until next week, but until then, remember to love always
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  Speaker 1: yourself and always say.
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  Speaker 4: Thank God for one another day.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, I know we could be another way. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: pray thank God for another day. Hey Hey, I'm just
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  Speaker 2: thankful for another day. Hey hey, another day? Oh, another
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  Speaker 2: day wise, another day to get it right, another day
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  Speaker 2: to rise up, another day living another day with loved ones.
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  Speaker 2: I always remember, hold it down for a bull, one
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  Speaker 2: ye