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Speaker 1: What a beautiful day, What a fantastic day it is,
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Speaker 1: and today is You and I were chatting about this earlier.
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Speaker 1: Today is National Mutt Day. And mutts are are amazing pets,
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Speaker 1: great you know, great dogs, and let's talk a little
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Speaker 1: bit about about that. And you know, I think for
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Speaker 1: a lot of folks, one of the big things is,
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Speaker 1: you know, saving a pet from a shelter and other
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Speaker 1: things they are they are. There's some great benefits to
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Speaker 1: to to adopting or bringing a mud into the family,
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Speaker 1: isn't there there are?
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Speaker 2: And you know, mutt has kind of a derogatory connotation
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Speaker 2: to it, so I want to make sure well, yeah,
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Speaker 2: you know, we used to call dogs mutts or hind
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Speaker 2: fifty seven or a lot of things, and now you know,
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Speaker 2: people kind of have pushed back a little bit on that.
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Speaker 2: So I think it's interesting that there is a National
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Speaker 2: mut Day. I actually did a little reading about this
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Speaker 2: from the time that you and I started this conversation
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Speaker 2: so that I could have a little bit of knowledge
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Speaker 2: about what that term really means. And it does have
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Speaker 2: in some ways a negative connotation. Now mutt can mean
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Speaker 2: any kind of a dog that has mixed breed heritage,
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Speaker 2: So rather than it being a quote unquote pure bread dog.
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Speaker 2: Where Golden Retriever is a Golden Retriever, it could be
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Speaker 2: a Golden Retriever bread to a doodle, And so we
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Speaker 2: could have a doodle which is technically a mutt. But
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Speaker 2: those are going to be called designer dogs or purpose
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Speaker 2: bread dogs and other terms that aren't quite as you know,
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Speaker 2: mut like, So you know, it's not meant to be
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Speaker 2: a negative term. I think it's just a way to
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Speaker 2: classify dogs. Is it a pure bread dog with two
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Speaker 2: parents of the same breed, or is it another, you know,
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Speaker 2: another kind of dog. So it does make a difference
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Speaker 2: in how we classify those and term them. And some dogs,
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Speaker 2: some mut dogs come from great families. It didn't really
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Speaker 2: mean to happen, and it just sort of you know, well,
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Speaker 2: where there's a will, there's a way. Yeah, And when
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Speaker 2: there's a dog in heat and a male dog around,
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Speaker 2: they they have pretty strong drives. So a lot of times,
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Speaker 2: I mean I've had people say, yeah, I was walking
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Speaker 2: up the stairs and the dog literally knocked me over
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Speaker 2: and you know, swooped or off of set, and before
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Speaker 2: I could do anything about it, it was it was,
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Speaker 2: it was over. So it can happen pretty fast, and
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Speaker 2: so sometimes they are meant to happen and sometimes they
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Speaker 2: are not. And yes, a lot of these dogs do
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Speaker 2: come through rescues and shelters and breed rescue and all
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Speaker 2: those things. So I think it's important that we talk
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Speaker 2: about all those sources.
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Speaker 1: I think what is said Jurassic Park, he says nature
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Speaker 1: finds a way. Uh, there's a reason. Yeah, there's that's
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Speaker 1: that's a very profound statement with that. You know, one
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Speaker 1: of the things we talk about obviously when you're when
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Speaker 1: you're going the pure bread route, Uh, there are things
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Speaker 1: that you know, you you have a really good idea
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Speaker 1: of the qualities of of the particular breed, you know
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Speaker 1: what to expect with with other types of dogs, you
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Speaker 1: don't necessarily have that. And I know one of the
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Speaker 1: one of the areas we've touched on in the past
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Speaker 1: is things like DNA testing and and and having that
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Speaker 1: stuff and getting a There's there's medical benefits, but there's
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Speaker 1: also benefits to kind of understanding what makes your dog tick.
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Speaker 1: Isn't that right?
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Speaker 2: Because retrievers are retrievers, and hounds are hounds, and herding
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Speaker 2: dogs are hurting dogs, and they have different personalities and
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Speaker 2: different bill sets. And different qualities, and so there's a
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Speaker 2: lot of different ways to look at it. So the
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Speaker 2: advantage of a purebred dog is the predictability of some
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Speaker 2: of those traits. What's their coat going to be like,
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Speaker 2: are they going to shed? Are they going to need
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Speaker 2: a lot of exercise? How is their activity level indoors
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Speaker 2: versus outdoors. You take something like a greyhound or another sidehound.
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Speaker 2: They're immensely quiet in the house, and you get them
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Speaker 2: outside and they're dot on the horizon before you can
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Speaker 2: even blink your eyes because they're gone. So those are
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Speaker 2: things for people to know. It Siberian huskie does not
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Speaker 2: stay in your yard unless you have like double fencing.
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Speaker 2: Those are just traits that are helpful for people to
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Speaker 2: know so that they kind of know what they're getting into.
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Speaker 2: But there are great joys in having a dog that's
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Speaker 2: a little less predictable, and you know, you get them
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Speaker 2: when they're little at the shelter or maybe half grown,
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Speaker 2: and you're not quite sure what they're going to grow
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Speaker 2: up to be. Like I one time, a number of
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Speaker 2: years ago, I had a client that had lost her
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Speaker 2: old dog and had lost her husband, and she wanted
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Speaker 2: a small dog, and I'd gone to the UW for
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Speaker 2: a a seizon surgery lab, and I had done a
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Speaker 2: neuter on this adorable little dog, and I called her
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Speaker 2: and I said, you know, this dog is going to
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Speaker 2: be available for adoption. He's really cute. I think he'll
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Speaker 2: be about forty pounds when he grows up. He turned
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Speaker 2: up to be one hundred and forty pounds. So there's
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Speaker 2: definitely a risk that goes with taking a dog that's
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Speaker 2: under you know, under six months of age, that you're
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Speaker 2: not quite sure what it's going to turn out to act, like,
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Speaker 2: be like, look like, you know, how big it's going
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Speaker 2: to be, all those things. So I think those are
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Speaker 2: important things to realize. But at one point, every single
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Speaker 2: dog breed we have was a mixed breed dog. You know,
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Speaker 2: we took basically five lines of dogs historically, like sixteen
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Speaker 2: thousand years ago when humans became humans, And there's a
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Speaker 2: lot of discussion about coevolution that people co evolved with dogs.
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Speaker 2: They didn't just like dogs didn't just move from wolves
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Speaker 2: into dogs one day in our in our camps around
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Speaker 2: the campfire, but that over the sixteen thousand years, a
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Speaker 2: lot of these things have evolved, and there's a really
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Speaker 2: interesting new book by a Wisconsin author that might be
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Speaker 2: worth taking a look at, called Familias. I think it
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Speaker 2: comes out next week. I heard an interview with the
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Speaker 2: author and it should be fascinating book about dogs, and
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Speaker 2: so anyway, if you're interested in that, that might be
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Speaker 2: something fun to read. But basically, Golden Retrievers didn't come
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Speaker 2: over on the arc with Noah. You know, it's not
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Speaker 2: like one day they just showed up as a Golden Retriever.
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Speaker 2: Golden Retrievers were developed in the eighteen sixties by Lowered Tweet,
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Speaker 2: and we kind of think of Golden Retrievers as being
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Speaker 2: a dog breed that's been around forever. Well one hundred
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Speaker 2: and fifty years isn't exactly forever. So there's newer breeds
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Speaker 2: than that, and there's older breeds in that. There's breaths.
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Speaker 2: Some of the Chinese and other breeds like Chow's they
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Speaker 2: go back to like the year one thousand, like they
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Speaker 2: go back way, way, way far. Some of the sidehounds
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Speaker 2: are the oldest breeds that they had with the Pharaohs
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Speaker 2: when they were in Egypt, you know, the Selukis and
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Speaker 2: the other sidehound type dogs. So there's all these really
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Speaker 2: interesting evolutionary paths that have evolved, and some of them
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Speaker 2: evolved with great health, and some of them evolved with
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Speaker 2: some flaws in their health. So that's where this discussion
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Speaker 2: comes in, is we think that mixed breed dogs may
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Speaker 2: be healthier. There's debate about that because number one, we
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Speaker 2: don't know all of those features. It would take a
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Speaker 2: study that's much too large to really understand well. And
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Speaker 2: number two, a lot of the pure bread dog clubs
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Speaker 2: have done a really good job of establishing DNA tests
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Speaker 2: and other kinds of screening tests for phenotype like hip
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Speaker 2: X rays and elbow X rays and those things to
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Speaker 2: try and get some of those flaws, those developmental or
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Speaker 2: health flaws bred out of their breath. And those are
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Speaker 2: the people who are supporting the research at AKC and
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Speaker 2: universities to try and do that. So we can't uniformly
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Speaker 2: say that a purebread dog is always less healthy than
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Speaker 2: a mixed breed dog, because I've seen mixed breed dogs
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Speaker 2: get really sick when they're really young, and I've seen
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Speaker 2: pure bread dogs love to be really old. So you
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Speaker 2: can't just generalize that.
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, you know want to, you're mentioning too a little
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Speaker 1: bit about you know, the development of the kind of
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Speaker 1: the domesticated dog and how they how they came to be.
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Speaker 1: I think it was called decoded. It was a nature
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Speaker 1: on PBS a number of years ago, and I should
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Speaker 1: dig that up. And it just that's such a fascinating
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Speaker 1: as you know, you think about that about the you
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Speaker 1: know how dogs and humans just formed that you know,
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Speaker 1: that that bond that is it's just the genetic just
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Speaker 1: it's all fascinating stuff.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, glad, Yeah, And Meg meg Olmert wrote a
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Speaker 2: book called Made for each Other. It's a picture of
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Speaker 2: the cover has a picture of two feet in a
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Speaker 2: bed and then a dog's nose poking up between its
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Speaker 2: and it's again a really interesting book. She's a national
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Speaker 2: geographic author and has written this book called Made for
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Speaker 2: each Other. And it's really cool because we you know,
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Speaker 2: we don't really understand the complete evolution. It's all based
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Speaker 2: on the position. But we used to say that, you know,
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Speaker 2: like dogs just showed up one day. Well they didn't.
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Speaker 2: They co evolved. The dogs that were brave enough to
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Speaker 2: come close to the camp and eat the meat and
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Speaker 2: the food that was left over from the human started
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Speaker 2: to evolve in so they evolved to be closer to us,
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Speaker 2: and we evolved to be closer to them. Because there
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Speaker 2: are people I can't understand them, but there are people
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Speaker 2: who don't like dogs like I can't. I can't wrap
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Speaker 2: my head around that. But there are people who don't
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Speaker 2: like dogs, and I get that. I have family members
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Speaker 2: that don't like dogs. So it's hard for me to
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Speaker 2: understand because that's kind of what I live is dogs.
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Speaker 2: But there's definitely a co evolution that happened. And if
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Speaker 2: you're interested in this, there's so many good resources out
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Speaker 2: there to do a little reading, so you know, kind
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Speaker 2: of take a little time and read something fun for
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Speaker 2: the summer.
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Speaker 1: Made for each other. I'll definitely, I'll definitely be downloading
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Speaker 1: that later today sounds so it's fast, and I love this,
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Speaker 1: you know, this type of conversation about you know, kind
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Speaker 1: of getting that information about about understanding you know, dogs,
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Speaker 1: dog breeds and of course whether it's a mixed breed
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Speaker 1: or a pure bread and getting that information. I want
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Speaker 1: out Vet dot com. That's checkout vet dot com. Today
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Speaker 1: is National mutdayre we're going called mixed breed dogs this morning,
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Speaker 1: uh doctor. One of the things too, is, uh we
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Speaker 1: tend to forget is because of circumstances, sometimes dogs, whether
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Speaker 1: they're mixed breed or just kind of unknown lineages, end
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Speaker 1: up in shelters, and we sometimes wonder about the question
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Speaker 1: marks of what is a puppy going to grow into,
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Speaker 1: especially as you're talking about mixed breed. If you're adopting
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Speaker 1: a little bit older pet, you get to see right
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Speaker 1: away exactly how they're going to grow up because they've
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Speaker 1: already grown. And what a great gift that is, not
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Speaker 1: just for the pet, but how rewarding that is to
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Speaker 1: add a dog to the family that.
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Speaker 2: Way, Oh for sure. And there's a lot of really
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Speaker 2: great dogs out there that are looking for homes, So
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Speaker 2: don't hesitate to go visit a shelter, go to some
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Speaker 2: of the online sources, take a look at those now.
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Speaker 2: I am in the process of getting ready to do
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Speaker 2: a presentation later today on heartworm disease. And don't forget
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Speaker 2: a lot of the dogs from the South who come
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Speaker 2: with some baggage, including some of them with heartworm. Even
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Speaker 2: if it was tested the dog was tested prior to
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Speaker 2: you getting it. It can take six months from the
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Speaker 2: time that the mosquito bites the dog until we see
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Speaker 2: heartworm disease positive on a test. So be careful with
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Speaker 2: what you're doing. Make sure that the dog is going
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Speaker 2: to fit your lifestyle size, for activity level, for coat type.
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Speaker 2: You have people with allergies in your home, things like that,
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Speaker 2: But look at heartworm testing, look at what vaccines they've had,
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Speaker 2: if they're spade or neutered. All those things are important
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Speaker 2: considerations prior to the time that you take them. And
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Speaker 2: not all riskies are created equals. Some rescue organizations do
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Speaker 2: a fabulous job and some are eh. You know, they
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Speaker 2: do the best they can with the resources that they have, so,
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Speaker 2: you know, just be aware that those aren't always easy
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Speaker 2: dogs because some of them do come with some emotional
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Speaker 2: baggage or some behavioral baggage. So just be thoughtful about
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Speaker 2: whether that's going to work for you, because one you
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Speaker 2: commit to a dog, you really want it to be
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Speaker 2: a lifetime commitment. You don't want it to be something
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Speaker 2: that doesn't work out well, So be careful. You know,
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Speaker 2: test the dogs behavior a little bit, and some dogs
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Speaker 2: don't show their true behavior until they've been in your
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Speaker 2: home for ninety days. They're like a new employee. You know,
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Speaker 2: you come to work, you're on time, you don't state
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Speaker 2: too long at lunch, you behave yourself in the lunch room,
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Speaker 2: and then you get to day ninety one and you're like,
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Speaker 2: I'm past provision. I guess just kind of let lose here.
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Speaker 2: So some dogs will change their behavior or in that
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Speaker 2: ninety day period of time, but many of them are great.
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Speaker 2: And you know, some people aren't in a position to
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Speaker 2: take a rescue dog or a shelter dog, but they
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Speaker 2: still want to help. So be thoughtful again about how
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Speaker 2: you make your support to those organizations. Support your local shelter,
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Speaker 2: Support those organizations that are close to you, like the
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Speaker 2: Dane County Humane Society. Those are the ones you want
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Speaker 2: to support. Some of the national organizations are actually more
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Speaker 2: political than they are about dog care, so if you're
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Speaker 2: making donations to those, they may actually not be going
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Speaker 2: to the dogcare itself. So you know, if you have
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Speaker 2: an extra bag of dogs through the sun open, you
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Speaker 2: can drop it at the shelter. They need paper tells,
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Speaker 2: they always need paper tells. There's always some things. They
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Speaker 2: always need cat litter, they always need cat food. So
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Speaker 2: there's definitely things that you can do to help these
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Speaker 2: shelters and do it locally so that you know that
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Speaker 2: your funding dollars are going to boots on the ground,
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Speaker 2: people in your community, dogs and cats in your community,
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Speaker 2: so that you're supporting those local organizations because some of
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Speaker 2: the bigger ones are frankly just political machines, and some
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Speaker 2: of them have changed their names because they got a
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Speaker 2: bad road mutation, so be thoughtful about that. But MutS
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Speaker 2: and mutts much are great dogs. They can be amazing dogs.
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Speaker 2: I've had some, and actually some organizations breed them on purpose,
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Speaker 2: like Canine Companits are independence deliberately breed Labradors to Golden
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Speaker 2: Retrievers for their service dogs, and they have a breeding
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Speaker 2: program that goes back over thirty years. So those are
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Speaker 2: technically mutts because they're not purebred, but they know the behavior,
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Speaker 2: they know the health of those dogs. They ofa the
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Speaker 2: parents for hips and elbows, and they do help testing
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Speaker 2: and they do all this stuff so they can produce
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Speaker 2: them best high quality puppies for those service dogs settings
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Speaker 2: that they can, so you know, German shepherds are German shepherds,
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Speaker 2: and those are used as seeing eye dogs a lot.
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Speaker 2: But some of the other dogs are a mixed breed
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Speaker 2: because they're wildly successful in those crosses and they know
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Speaker 2: exactly genetically what they're doing. So there can be some
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Speaker 2: amazing mixed breed dogs out there and purpose bread dogs
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Speaker 2: that are technically a mut but are fabulous pets. Doctor.
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Speaker 1: One of the things it's great about getting a chance
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Speaker 1: to talk with you is kind of getting getting different perspectives,
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Speaker 1: and of course as a medical professional, as a doctor,
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Speaker 1: is that is I think sometimes people don't use their
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Speaker 1: vets as as much of a resource as they are.
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Speaker 1: And when we're talking about mixed breed dogs or other
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Speaker 1: you know, or adopting or bringing a new pet into
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Speaker 1: the house, it's not a bad idea to talk with
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Speaker 1: your vet before you have have adopted. And also you
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Speaker 1: talk about some of these rescues out there, what a
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Speaker 1: great resource being able to talk to your vet and saying, hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm looking for you know, a particular a particular breed
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Speaker 1: of dog, or looking for a rescue dog, what do
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Speaker 1: you recommend? That's a I think sometimes we forget what
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Speaker 1: a great resource you as doctors can be in that
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Speaker 1: part of the conversation as well.
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Speaker 2: Right, And I would be more than happy to do
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Speaker 2: consoles with people before they make those decisions, because some
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Speaker 2: of them come in with a dog and you're like,
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Speaker 2: oh man, this is just fraught with disaster. So talk
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Speaker 2: to your veterinary professional, maybe a vet tech, maybe one
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Speaker 2: of the people that works at the veterinary office that
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Speaker 2: may be your veterinarians, but they have really deep resources
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Speaker 2: on what kind of options you have for adoption. They
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Speaker 2: may have a client that has a pet that they
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Speaker 2: can't keep anymore and they're looking for a special home
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Speaker 2: for them. You know, a lot of the small breed
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Speaker 2: dogs get sucked sucked up out of the shelters immediately.
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Speaker 2: They may not even show up on a website or
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Speaker 2: or anywhe else because they get adopted so quickly. But
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Speaker 2: we all have clients that find themselves in a position
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Speaker 2: that they've become ill or aged or moving into a
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Speaker 2: care facility and they can't keep some of these really
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Speaker 2: lovely little dogs. So remember that your veterinary staff may
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Speaker 2: know of a great little dog or a great big
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Speaker 2: dog that is available and will never see the light
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Speaker 2: of day on a website, so use them as resources.
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Speaker 2: Your veterinarians know you, They know what kind of dogs
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Speaker 2: you've had in the past and what your preferences are,
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Speaker 2: and so they can really help you make good decisions
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Speaker 2: about that because it is a long time decision. You
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Speaker 2: don't want to do this and then just take them
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Speaker 2: back to the shelter because it didn't work. You want
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Speaker 2: it to work well.
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Speaker 1: Talking this morning with doctor Marty Greer of Checkout Veterinarian,
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Speaker 1: the website checkout vet dot com. That's checkout vet dot
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Speaker 1: com our top number six o eight three one eight
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Speaker 1: sixty seven hundred. That's six eight three one eight sixty
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Speaker 1: seven hundred. Before we wrap up this week, I do
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Speaker 1: want to talk about the clinic doctor and what a
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Speaker 1: great design Checkout Veterinary is, and of course your your
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Speaker 1: sister clinic check in vet and the other clinic in Marshalling.
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Speaker 1: Of course you've got one, uh you've got one in
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Speaker 1: Lamira as well, but check out Vet. Let's talk a
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Speaker 1: little bit about that experience and kind of how that
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Speaker 1: how that was developed and the work that you put
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Speaker 1: into to create Checkout Veterinary.
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Speaker 2: Sure, so we decided before COVID that there wasn't really
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Speaker 2: a good pet centric design for veterinary clinics. We talked
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Speaker 2: for years about fear free and low stress and comfortable
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Speaker 2: veterinary care and cooperative in arcare, but we really haven't
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Speaker 2: done a great job of changing the design of veterinary clinics.
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Speaker 2: So you still have to bring your dog in through
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Speaker 2: the front door, across the icy sidewalks, or through the heat,
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Speaker 2: and you know, try to get into the lob and
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Speaker 2: not run into a dog nose to nose on their
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Speaker 2: way out that isn't going to like your dog or
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Speaker 2: somebody with a cat that's going to be a little
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Speaker 2: bit nervous about being there. So having the opportunity to
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Speaker 2: pull into a garage bay and that would be your
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Speaker 2: exam room, you don't have to get out of your
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Speaker 2: car if you choose to stand in the vehicle. We've
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Speaker 2: got a window between you and the exam room. So
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Speaker 2: you can stay in your cars, stay with the kiddos,
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Speaker 2: stay with grandma if she's not trustworthy behind the wheel,
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Speaker 2: so you can keep an eye on your pet and
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Speaker 2: keep an eye on all the people that are with you.
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Speaker 2: We don't mind if you bring six dogs and four kids.
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Speaker 2: We've got the space for it in the garage base,
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Speaker 2: and it really is a pretty fun experience. So dogs
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Speaker 2: may be more comfortable in the back of the suv
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Speaker 2: of a minivan, they might be more comfortable in the
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Speaker 2: exam room. But it's a really wonderful system that you
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Speaker 2: don't have to experience bad weather and scary things happening
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Speaker 2: with other interactions with pets. You're directly into the garage bay.
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Speaker 2: You're the only one in there, so it makes it
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Speaker 2: really safe.
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Speaker 1: You talk about those scary interactions. I until I had
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Speaker 1: a chihuahua, you never think much about it, and then
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Speaker 1: you're like, they're always scanning and watching, and what a
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Speaker 1: great design and what a great setup it is at
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Speaker 1: checkout Veterinary. A great day to start that relationship. Don't
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Speaker 1: forget that first visit that exam. It is free. You
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Speaker 1: can learn more online checkout vet dot com. That's checkout
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Speaker 1: vet dot com. Telphon number six oh eight three one
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Speaker 1: eight sixty seven hundred. That's six oh eight three one
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Speaker 1: eight sixty seven hundred. Doctor. It's always great chatting. Have
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Speaker 1: a great day and we'll talk soon.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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