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September 30, 2026 | The Jon Justice Show · The Jon Justice Show: Presented by Center of the American Experiment

• 0:07
  SPEAKER_02: Alpha Women's Center is a pro-life Christian mobile clinic that serves women like Tina who left her abortion appointments presented by American experiments.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_02: I'm glad you're with the show.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for joining us today.
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  SPEAKER_02: Including 964.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_02: For more information, 02Machine4MN.com to dive into today.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_02: And I've been busy doing uh.com doing notes since I started prep after the alarm went off at uh 2.30 this morning.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_02: I am your host, uh John Justice over there is uh producer uh Devin, and unfortunately, as I was scrambling to get the show started, I had a couple of uh I'm still learning the new system here.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_02: So typically when you go and start one thing to play, it turns something else off.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_02: Not the case when it comes to this particular system.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_02: So unfortunately, you don't get the uh the the intro this morning.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_02: All right, so on the show today, uh we're gonna be talking uh further about the Minneapolis uh City Council and uh their attempts to go and ban autonomous vehicles in the Twin Cities.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_02: There's a further update uh on that.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_02: Uh plus uh we're going to do a deeper dive into the Misabi steel mill opening, being constructed in Iowa over Minnesota.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_02: I've spent a lot of time on this particular story, and we'll be joined by congressional candidate uh Eric Pratt coming up at uh seven o'clock today.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_02: He'll be sharing uh his thoughts on uh the steel mill uh going uh to Iowa instead of Minnesota.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_02: And there was an interesting data point that popped up in the middle of when I was doing my research on this, and that is Minnesota is going to be receiving a significant amount of revenue because of this deal.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, in the billions.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's not the 18 billion that Iowa is receiving.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_02: And for those that are just now uh catching up and don't know what I'm talking about, so there's a Minnesota-based uh steel company, uh Misabi, and the their main headquarters is in India.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, but they're based here.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_02: They're gonna mine the ore here in Minnesota, but they're gonna build build the steel mill in Iowa and basically use the Mississippi as a trans as a mode of transportation as they're moving the the supplies and the goods and the and the and the ore back and forth.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_02: But we're receiving a significant revenue kick in.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_02: It's not, again, nearly as much as what Iowa is getting.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_02: But the thing about it is the fact that no leadership is talking about this, no DFL leadership is talking about this.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_02: We haven't heard anything from Governor Dim Walls or any of the other DFL leadership, while I do have commentary from the GOP leadership expressing their frustration that they chose Iowa over Minnesota.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_02: And there's a very specific reason why you're not hearing from DFL leadership or Governor Dim Walls coming, uh, you know, coming out and saying, hey, we're gonna be getting you know two to five billion dollars in revenue because it's still a loss for the state.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll be diving into this story coming up later on in the show.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_02: Also, big uh big news broke yesterday afternoon, and it's one of the lead stories across almost all of the um local news outlets, and that is attorney general thief Ellison has charged a handful of individuals with fraud.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_02: Okay?
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_02: That's a good thing.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_02: We want people charged when they commit acts of fraud here in Minnesota.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_02: However, the devil, just like the Iowa Steel deal, the devil is in the details.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_02: You don't want to miss the commentary surrounding this, probably like around 7.30 uh this morning.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_02: Because do not buy into the way that the media is propping up this story and ultimately propping up attorney general candidate fighting for his electoral life in this election.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_02: Do not take that at face value because you got to get into the details of what has actually happened here.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_02: And more specifically, I won't bury the lead on this, and like I said, we'll get into more details coming up in the 7 o'clock hour.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_02: But most specifically is there's a lot of catching of the fraudsters afterwards, but there's still very little stopping in on the front end.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_02: And therein lies the problem here.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_02: Not to mention the fact that this comes on the heel of that devastating uh Office of Legislative Auditor report regarding fraud here in Minnesota.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_02: And it's politically timed to benefit Thief Ellison.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_02: Now, we were also supposed to have Bill Walsh here from Center of the American Experiment in studio uh to give you some of the latest uh polling numbers from the exclusive Thinking Minnesota poll this year ahead of the elections.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_02: Unfortunately, he's double booked and has to go uh to an event in downtown Minneapolis where one of our other um policy fellows, Darren Nelson, who had joined us earlier in the week on the show.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_02: So he will not be joining us today, but we will get into specifically those Thinking Minnesota polling numbers regarding how the Democrats have a big, big DSA problem on their hands.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_02: And that was clear within those uh polling numbers.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_02: Now I will share with you some exclusive information from this polling, but we'll do the larger conversation and bring you the more specific uh data points of that polling coming up tomorrow at 8:30 on the show with Bill Walsh.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_02: So you definitely do not want to miss.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_02: And this is exclusive uh polling information you're not gonna find uh anywhere else that is very insightful regarding where the minds of the voters are, where your mind is currently at.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_02: And I'll certainly be curious to hear your thoughts if you agree with the uh polling numbers or not.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_02: All right, let's go ahead and just make this uh official now that we got a bit of a preview of the show out of the way.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_02: Again, congressional candidate Eric Pratt will be joining us coming up uh just after the top of the hour, uh seven o'clock.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_10: The best pod away getting up is knowing Jamala Stuff.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_02: It didn't feel right.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_02: Like after that incredibly wonky start, I felt like I needed to reset the table here.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_02: So we had a friend of the show that texted into the blaster line, 651-964-0294.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_02: A.G.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_02: Ellison announces the new Medica uh Medicaid fraud charges, as I mentioned, including against a Duluth provider.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_02: Too little too late.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_02: What has Ellison been doing for years before Nick Shirley appeared in Minneapolis?
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_02: And before Nick Shirley, you know, Alpha News, Liz Collins, Jenna Globe, and then a fantastic investigative team over there.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's a fantastic question.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_02: And thank you so much for the uh for the text on the blaster line.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_02: 651-964-0294.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_02: So you heard the uh best part of waking up.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, I don't have a good place to play this, so I'll just share it with you now.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_02: I was going through and grabbing audio for the show today, and I came across this particular piece of audio.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_02: As I mentioned yesterday, you know that there's a lot of talk that Kamala Harris will run again for the presidency, for the nomination for the Democrats in 2028.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_02: The question that I have is, are they going to run the whole thing back again?
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_02: Will she choose Governor Dim Walls as her running mate?
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_02: I hope that both things happen.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_02: Because it would be an incredibly entertaining election, especially watching the Democrats flounder over who they're going to end up throwing their support behind.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_02: Because, you know, if they don't support Kamala Harris as their nominee, aren't they a bunch of racists if that's the case?
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's what they're they constantly tell us.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Kamala Harris was on a podcast recently, and again, just uh further evidence of why I want to see her run for office again.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_35: So I'll speak for myself.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_35: None of us achieve success without that level of profound support and and and reinforcement.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_12: Yes, yes.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_35: Right?
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_35: Around not only a memory of legacy and the path on which you stand that was was charted long before you, but also giving you some sense of pride in what can be the destiny and was the destiny that so many fought for.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_35: Right?
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah, yeah.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_02: What the hell is she talking about?
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_02: And I love how the house, yeah, yeah.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_02: Not paying attention to a word that Kamala Harris is saying because you simply can't understand it.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_02: She's a simpleton.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_35: AI is kind of a fancy thing.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_35: It's first of all, it's two letters.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_35: It means artificial intelligence.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_35: But ultimately what it is is it's about machine learning.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_35: And so the machine is taught.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_35: And part of the issue here is what information is going into Yeah.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_02: You tell us more about artificial intelligence or uh superintelligence, as uh President Donald Trump has ushered in.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_02: And I have a story on that uh coming up in just a few minutes here on the show.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_02: Uh also, without a place to go and put it officially, let me share this with you.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_02: Dan Bongino, uh no longer serving in the administration, um, back to doing commentary and providing a lot of inside uh information and insight, you know.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_02: Whereas we have foes of the show who stupidly um act as if they're getting intel uh briefings, you know, uh individuals like Dan Bongino, they actually got intelligence briefings when it comes to things like the war in Iran.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_02: And here, talking to, I believe, Sean Hannity on Fox News overnight, he discusses specifically the threat from Iran and how it went far beyond their nuclear program.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_23: Had the privilege of working for uh President Trump, and you get the President's Daily Brief.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_23: And although I can't elaborate on some of the specifics, speaking in generalities, the Iranian issue had to be dealt with, or your gas prices would have been eight and ten dollars a gallon.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_23: Not only would they potentially control the strait, you would have had an entire disruption, a regional war, you would have seen uh, you know, the the the Hooties involved, you could have seen scenarios 10,000 times worse than we see now.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_23: And and just to get into that, it wasn't just the nuclear threat.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_23: Again, speaking as as generally as I can, there were other threats out there that people in the UC, the US intelligence community, they're not gonna give you all the details because we can with resources.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_23: But you have things like cyber attacks, given the rapid advancements in artificial intelligence uh that we've seen.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_23: The Iranians don't care.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_23: Like whether their cyber grid got wiped out or not, they don't care.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_23: They're not interested in in uh deterrence by usily assure destruction.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_23: They don't care if everyone is destroyed as long as you're destroyed first.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_23: It was also one more thing, Tony.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_23: It was not just a nuclear threat and attacks on our grid, it was also the potential for uh lethal plotting.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_23: The assassination attempts over and over and over again had the potential for massive disruption.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_23: I mean, we didn't need another Archduke Ferdinand moment.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_02: And don't forget that President Donald Trump was speaking about the threat from Iran going back some 40 years ago.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_02: This was always something that he specifically wanted to go and deal with.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_02: And if not Trump, then who?
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_02: And if not now, when?
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_02: I know that it's caused difficulties for individuals.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um when it comes to the gas prices, diesel specifically, regardless of what foes of the shows of the show want to do in terms of stupid memes coming at me on X for those that were on my feed uh uh yesterday, and diesel prices are more influenced by the war in uh the Ukraine versus Russia than what's going on, you know, here in or there in Iran.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_02: When it comes to our gas prices, of course, uh it is impacted by Iran.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_02: But if not now, when?
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's funny, yesterday this uh foe at the show, as I mentioned, they put up uh a photo of a generic white dude in a Make America Great Again hat, and he's next to a sign for uh diesel gasoline, where the gasoline was like seven dollars and eighty-six a gallon.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_02: And uh the caption was a small price to pay to keep uh trans kids from playing in girls' sports.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_02: And it was a really interesting meme from the standpoint of again, this was in response to commentary that I had regarding Iran and wherein the diesel prices had nothing to do, you know, very little to do with the war in in Iran and more to do with Russia in Ukraine.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_02: But the second part of it, too, I don't know about you, but I'll pay higher gas prices if it if it somehow is correlated with keeping biological boys from playing in girls' sports, stripping away women's ability, girls' ability to achieve massive success that's being pushed down because boys are playing, or keeping them safe from injury.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, I'll pay higher gas prices if it means we can keep boys from playing in girl sports.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_02: But they think it's an own.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's so very, very weird.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, before we get into as I mentioned, Trump argued in the order that AI, because he's now issued an executive order calling a superintelligence, and we talked with David about this earlier in the week, and I have a different take on this now.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_02: I'll share with you what that take is coming up here in a bit.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_02: I think this is a good idea.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's calculated.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_02: Trump doesn't do anything, it's it's calculated.
• 14:08
  unknown: Okay.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll get into this.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_02: Plus another Supreme Court ruling regarding Trump being able to resume third country deportations for illegal aliens.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um, one more sort of off-the-beaten path item, but a story that I continue to watch with great interest, and that is uh the alleged discovery of Noah's Ark.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_02: There's an article that I found in IFL Science.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, researchers, including a team led by a professor Senker Attila, continue to investigate the formation near Mount Ararat in eastern Turkey, a site believed by some to be Noah's Ark.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_02: However, uh, the site is widely considered, according to the summary of this article, a common geological structure, likely to be formed of volcanic minerals and mud and landslides.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_02: Despite numerous expeditions, the existence of Noah's Ark remains unproven in the latest investigation, is unlikely to yield new findings.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_02: Although they continue to go and dig at the site and find petrified wood uh samples, and so they are getting further uh to the truth.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_02: What's funny about this, though, is the whole article is based off of uh debunking this claim that this is the actual resting place of Noah's Ark.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_02: The headline itself is no, researchers haven't found Noah's Ark near Mount Ararat in eastern Turkey.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm like, oh, this is interesting.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_02: So when you look into the article, it's pure speculation.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's just this person taking a contrary stance against what the scientists on the ground and others are saying about this potentially being the resting place of Noah's Ark.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_02: But what I found most interesting about it was when you find out who this individual is, uh, his name is Tom Hale.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_02: He's a seni a senior journalist.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_02: Tom has a master's degree in journalism.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_02: His editorial work uh covers uh the environment, technology, and culture.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_02: So he's not a geologist or a theologian, but apparently he plays one in real life.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_02: So uh take this senior journalist's uh comments with a grain of salt.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_02: I do have some audio I want to share, though, uh, regarding the latest um surrounding uh the investigation into whether or not this is the actual uh Noah's Ark.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_43: It's laying on the lower mountain, a mountain called Mount Judy, and the word Judy means doomsday mountain.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_43: And if you go to the top of that mountain, you can go to the place where the ark first landed.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_43: There's a huge dip in the ground, that's where the ark first landed, and the top of that mountain from ancient, ancient times, is called the place of the landing.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_43: And over 4,000 years, because it's a it's a mudslide, the ark came down the side of the hill and finally came to rest in its current location.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_43: And every spring, when the rains happen and the snow melts, all the mud begins to move, but that one object just sits right there, and it seems like that big rock that rolled into it is what's holding it there in that single position.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_43: Its shape only becomes more pronounced year after year after year.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_43: Everything else around it moves, and the arc just becomes more sticking out clearer and clearer all the time.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_43: I think it's amazing.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_44: It it's absolutely amazing, and I remember seeing one picture where it was split down the middle of dating 1961, I believe, and then on the right side was the ship of 2019, and it shows how even what they saw in 1961 as a ship formation has since been revealed even more because of how everything has kind of flowed around it, but it hasn't changed.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_44: It hasn't moved with everything else.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_43: This is my favorite thing, Tony.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_43: On the very top of the mountain, near the place of the landing, this huge dip where the ship first landed, the local Kurds knew for thousands of years that right near there was a massive altar.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_43: It is the altar that Noah used.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_43: And when you go to that altar, it is not hard to imagine all the events described in Genesis chapter 9.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_43: There is a groove that is cut right across the top of the altar.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_43: I don't know if you saw it in the book or not.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_43: I did.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_43: But you can see that it was made with a human chisel or some kind of human instrumentation, and that is where Noah offered up his first sacrifice to God.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_43: You can just see the blood flowing right through that groove right off the side of the of that big rock, the rainbow appearing, and God giving the first law, which was really bizarre.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_43: What a strange law.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_43: You may not drink blood.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_43: Why in the world would that be the first law after they came off the ark?
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_43: And the answer is the Nephilim.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_43: Yes.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_43: The Nephilim were cannibals.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_43: They ate people, they drank blood, they they were cannibals, and so when God gave that as the first rule, it was the equivalent of saying, okay, no, now we've cleaned up this thing, let's never go back and do what we just took care of.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_43: Don't ever go back to these days of cannibalism.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_43: But the Nephilim were really in the world in the days before the flood.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_44: Yeah, absolutely were.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_02: There's an interesting There's an interesting thing that's happening right now within social media, and it's more of a cultural thing beyond social media that I want to mention briefly in light of the story.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_02: And uh forgive me for not having the actual source of where I pulled that audio.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, I had it for earlier in the week and through my notes I deleted where uh where I actually pulled that uh piece of audio from.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_02: But uh I just found it compelling because I find the whole thing compelling.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_02: You know, as a Bible-believing uh Christian, uh this is an an incredibly fascinating and intriguing story, regardless of whether or not it is proven or not proven to be the final resting place of Noah's Ark.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_02: But there's something larger that's going on in context with this story and the biblical implications that it holds, and that is the fact that the progressive churches, especially here in Minnesota, are suddenly being exposed in a way that I haven't seen before.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_02: It's becoming a trend for individuals to start filming some of these sermons that are taking place in these progressive churches, in what I believe is pure sacrilege coming from these alleged reverends and pastors and priests.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna dive into a bit of this on Freedom Friday.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_02: I want to keep it lighter, but I've been compiling some of some of the clips, and we shared some yesterday with you as well.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_02: All of this speaks to what I've talked about on the show and what a lot of other people are identifying, and that is the spiritual war that is taking place right now that usually is underneath the surface.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_02: It kind of contextually is in the background, it's not really out in the open, it's getting out in the open.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_02: That's a good thing to me.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_02: That's a great thing to me.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_02: The more that we can discuss the biblical aspects of what we're dealing with on a daily basis, and more specifically, how the leftists are seeking to distort the truth coming from the Bible.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_02: The more exposure that this commentary, this narrative needs.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm really pleased to see it, and we'll be talking about it and sharing some of the more ridiculous clips coming up on Friday during a Freedom Friday.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_02: Uh from TP USA Amanda Lamar will be joining us in the studio again, uh, plus Catherine Johnson uh along with Max Reimer and uh A.K.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_02: Kamara.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_02: And we're gonna be rotating some people through in the course of the next few weeks on a uh on a Freedom Friday.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_02: So we're looking forward to uh that.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_02: All right, coming up, Trump has argued in his new executive order that artificial intelligence no longer reflects the technology's rapid uh advancing capabilities, is saying that superintelligence better captures its promise and potential.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_02: This is an incredibly calculated move.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_02: I was a little reluctant, as you probably heard earlier this week, talking with David Gartenstein Ross to hop on board with this.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_02: Now I'm beginning to understand what Trump's move.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: Here might actually be.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm going to share with you the details.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_02: The Supreme Court a ruling coming up.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_02: And another example of why you have to wait for the full truth to emerge.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_02: Remember that Venezuelan national that the leftists and the media was all in a hubbub about that was shot by ICE agents and saying that this was an unwarranted shooting?
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh, he's now been charged as the truth finally uh comes out.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll get to that story coming up in a few minutes here on the John Justice Show.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_02: Remember, if you want to leave a voice or text message at any point throughout the program, 651-964-0294.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_02: I want to talk for just a moment about your closet.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_02: No, not you being in the closet.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_02: No, not that.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_02: That's none of my business.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_02: No, I'm talking about what's in your closet.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_02: This is actually the same circumstance for me.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it's probably full because nothing fits.
• 22:51
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• 22:57
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• 32:14
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• 32:16
  SPEAKER_02: The term superintelligence more appropriately captures the promised potential and rapidly advancing capabilities of these technologies.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_02: According to President Donald Trump, an executive order following remarks made at last week's United Nations General Assembly, where he publicly called to replace the term artificial intelligence with superintelligence.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_02: Trump argued that in the order that the AI no longer reflects the way that the technology is advancing.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_02: He also wrote that modern AI systems are increasingly amplifying human ingenuity, unlocking new forms of creativity and arguing uh they represent the beginning of a new era of superintelligence.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_02: Now, there were a lot of leaders that were at the White House over the course of the last uh few days.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_02: You had uh Mark Zuckerberg, you had Elon Musk all taking part in this summit regarding superintelligence.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_02: And while I was, again, a little you know torn on this talking with David Gartenstein Ross about changing the name, I think this is a calculation to separate what the United States is doing versus our adversaries in the race to win the war of artificial intelligence.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_02: Now, we don't know what that actually means, as we discussed with David Gartenstein Ross yesterday.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_02: You know, winning the war of artificial intelligence that could come in many different forms.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_02: One of the ways that I spoke with David was, you know, having a U.S.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_02: company be the ones using a large language model predominantly for the rest of the globe.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like if you have an American company that ends up being the leader in artificial intelligence usage because of their artificial intelligence, that could be a means at which the United States could end up taking a step closer to winning the war for artificial intelligence.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_02: Think about it in terms of your search engines.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_02: You know, there's other search engines available that you can use, but really predominantly Google won that war a long time ago.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_02: Artificial intelligence is very much in the same vein.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_02: And what I think is happening here is a calculated move by President uh Donald Trump to try to differentiate between what the U.S.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_02: is doing and what the rest of the world is doing.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_02: I have a couple of clips to uh share with you from uh President Donald Trump.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_02: Uh first off, at a recent uh event, uh Trump was talking about retiring the term fake news and replacing it with artificial news, kind of keeping in theme with what we're talking about here.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_02: But here's uh President Donald Trump talking about artificial and fake news, and then we'll get into comments made yesterday regarding superintelligence and the executive order outside of the White House.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_03: It's supreme also intelligence, but the word super is the best word of all, and it's the simplest.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_03: And so we're gonna be naming it SI, superintelligence, but we don't want to hear artificial because it's not artificial.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_03: It's very powerful, it's very brilliant, it's gonna mostly be put to great use, and we'll stop the bad use.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_03: But uh we're changing the name to superintelligence.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_03: And so far, I mean, everybody likes it.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_03: Artificial intelligence is like the news.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_03: Fake news.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_03: The word artificial.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_03: In fact, I could call them artificial.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_03: I think I found a new name.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_03: I just thought I'm gonna call them forget about fake.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_03: Fake news is one of my great terms.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_03: Now I'm gonna call them artificial news.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's good.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_03: I like that.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_03: The the artificial news.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_03: No, there's there's some look at all those press.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_03: There's some back there that are fabulous, like about two.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_02: I can see to you know, I've uh I've said uh in in the past that uh President Donald Trump, he's a lot like a talk show host.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's what drives the leftists nuts and the Trump derangement syndrome sufferers.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_02: Is that he is.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_02: He's a lot like a he's a lot like a talk show host.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of generalizing talk show hosts do that, I do that.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_02: But in that moment there, I just found the uh the pure inspiration taking place in that moment during the speech uh to also be uh very uh talk show host uh ex.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_29: Who should be held accountable when the AI and agents put me in a client like that?
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_03: That's the other thing.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_03: We've changed the name officially today.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_03: We've changed the name Steve officially to SI.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_03: But the name has been officially changed by the biggest, the smartest, the greatest people anywhere in the world at this.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_03: And I was with President T a few days ago, and he would admit it.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_03: He said these are the smartest people in the world at what they do, and it's a big, it's a big thing, but it's been officially changed to superintelligence or SI.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_02: During the White House roundtable with the tech executives that I mentioned a moment ago, Trump, who has opposed informing formal, uh has imposed form excuse me, has opposed imposing formal guardrails on superintelligence, said participants signed the document at the conclusion of the gathering.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_02: Trump added that the document, dubbed the White House Accord on Superintelligence, is morally binding for the executives who signed it.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_02: They almost viewed it as a separate kind of constitution.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_02: When they signed it, it meant a lot, said Trump of these tech leaders.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_02: Now, after Tuesday's White House summit, House Speaker Mike Johnson said the participants focused on striking the right balance between the interests of the American people, advancing technology, and maintaining the United States competitive edge over China.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_02: This is a statement of principles that you'll see, a statement of standards, commitments that are voluntary on behalf of the industry.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_02: It sets forth expectations, Johnson said.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_02: In short, summary, robust internal controls and layers of internal and external review.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_02: Tuesday evening, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg wrote on X that he viewed the summit as a positive step.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_02: I think it is a significant positive step that the leaders of every major American lab have committed to implementing robust internal controls and multiple layers of audits and reviews.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_02: This should give people more confidence that the technology each lab is building will work as intended.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_02: You know, one of the ways that I think this is going to upend and just change how people do things as it becomes adopted by more and more individuals, it goes back to what I mentioned a moment ago, and that is the war over the search engines that I was talking about.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_02: When it comes to Google being the dominant search engine over Bing or browsers like DuckDuckGo if you're looking for uh anonymity and don't want to use uh cognito mode when it comes to whatever uh internet search engine you're using.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_02: But artificial intelligence like replaces all of that.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_02: From the time that I've spent using it in the past week, um, I just go now to Chat GPT on my phone and talk directly with the artificial intelligence to get the information that I'm looking for on the fly.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_02: I used to do this, I mean, I do this throughout my prep every single day.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_02: I'm going online, I go to Google, I'm looking up, I'm doing research on things.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_02: Now the artificial intelligence does it for me when I ask it, what I would typically go and type into the search engine.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_02: And then it ends up providing even further information.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_02: And on top of that, because the artificial intelligence is completely aware of my background as a talk show host and my intention in terms of trying to go and get at this information, it's able to go and frame it in such a way to go and suit exactly the reason why I'm asking the question as opposed to just giving me an answer to the question.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm gonna guess that as more people go and adopt this, this is going to happen over and over and over again for everybody's specific needs, regardless of what industry or job that they happen to hold.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_02: Have a great day.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_02: I see what he I see what he what he did there.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_02: He's talking about sports illustrated.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_02: How very 90s jokey of you that was a thing I remember.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_02: Maxim kind of cleared the kind of shoved Sports Illustrated off to the side.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like Sports Illustrated, I know Devin's gonna be completely out of the loop on this, but you know, Sports Illustrated and the swimsuit edition was your your go-to as a young lad for beautiful, you know, scantily clad models and women, and then a magazine like Maxim came along and just did the entire magazine based off that premise.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_02: And then you get the lesser version of stuff that came along, which was more of a um was a rougher uh version of what Maxim ended up uh being.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_02: So I hope you enjoyed this little uh nostalgic trip uh back into the uh 90s uh when it came to that which a lot of young men would go and partake reading while uh taking care of their business in the bathroom.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_20: Good morning, John Rich here.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_02: So I Oh, by the way, I didn't mean I meant like your normal business in the bathroom.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't mean other I didn't mean other businesses.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, that was But I guess it depends your age.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_02: You know, if you're trying to hide things from mommy.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just gonna go back to Rich.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_20: Regards to superintelligence or AI or the data centers.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_20: Some of the information that I had heard was that there's ten trillion dollars borrowed out by these companies.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_20: They don't have their own money in the game.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_20: They have banked money.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_20: And that bank money is backed up by what cost the US good faith taxpaying dollar.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_20: So hopefully we cannot cut the regulations on it.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_20: We needed to succeed because our banking system is tied into it very heavily.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_02: Alright.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for the uh comment, Rich, as always.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's uh great to uh great to hear from you.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_02: Uh let's see.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_02: Somebody wrote, how long until there is a chat GPT chip that is inserted in the brain somehow?
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_02: Cut the search out entirely and just have the knowledge.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm not down with that.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_02: I don't, I don't, I don't want to.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_02: I've had enough surgery uh in my in my life.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_02: We don't need to be going back to the biblical theme that we'll talk about a bit with the crazy nut bar progressive churches in Minnesota on uh freedom, Freedom Friday.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we don't need anything that alludes to, you know, marks of the beast and things of that nature and stuff found in Revelation.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_02: Let's not speed towards that.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_02: Probably a probably a good idea.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_02: All right, the Supreme Court yesterday.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_02: In a story that's not getting a lot of fanfare on on media, it cracks me up.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_02: It just it cracks me up.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_02: You you see a story like this, and you would think this would be, you know, a headline across the board, Supreme Court ruling, President Donald Trump.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_02: And no, of course not, because Trump ended up winning again, and so it just gets buried.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_02: I got this version from the Daily Wire.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_02: It was almost exclusively only on conservative leaning uh websites uh today.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_02: But the Supreme Court yesterday cleared the way for the Trump administration to resume for now deporting illegal immigrants to third countries and a boost to the president's mass deportation campaign, and because of that, the news media buried it.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_02: The order pauses a lower court ruling that blocked the policy.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_02: The court's apparent vote was 6 3.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_02: Unsurprisingly, Justice Sotomayor, Kagan, and Jackson dissented.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: The High Court also granted Sir uh Sirta Rory.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_02: I'm saying that wrong.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna have lawyer extraordinaire Jeff O'Brien's probably laughing at me right now.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_02: Uh the justices will hear full arguments in December with a further decision expected by next summer.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_02: Now, under the policy, the administration has deported roughly 25,000 migrants to more than two dozen countries.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_02: Liberia uh being one of them, according to the AAP, the vast majority have been sent to Mexico.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_02: The DHS general counsel, James uh Parceval, said in our second Supreme Court victory, in less than a week, it's a bad day for criminal illegals and open border activists alike.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_02: So they'll still be debating the issue as the unsigned order simply pauses that lower court uh ruling, but it does uh bode well for the president and his continued efforts to undo the significant amount of intentional and intended damage to the country by allowing those millions upon millions of illegal aliens to enter the country under former President Joe Biden.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_02: One of whom federal prosecutors on Monday charged after they were shot by immigration and customs enforcement agent.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_02: So the Venezuelan national, Wilbur Rafael Garcias Perez, 28 years old, and God bless you, was charged with one count of assaulting, resisting, and impeding a federal officer after he allegedly struck an officer with his card, with his cars in side view rear mirror while fleeing.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_02: Fleeing.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_02: If you remember, this story was all over the news.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_02: ICE agents shoot an immigrant.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh, they're out of control.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_02: There was camera footage that ended up uh showing that this individual was fleeing from law enforcement and refused to cooperate.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_02: Funny how that happens over and over and over again.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, by the way, our other lawyer friend, uh James Dickey, is here to correct me.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_11: Hey, John, it's James Dickey.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_11: Cerserari, but pretty much everyone pronounces it wrong, so it don't feel bad.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_11: And when you see that word, it's another silly Latin word that lawyers use.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_11: You can just say cert because everyone calls it cert anyway, except when they're writing out it writing it out in long form like that.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_11: Have a good day.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_02: So it's cert.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_02: That makes more sense.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_02: That I'm familiar with.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_02: I don't feel thank you, James.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_02: I greatly appreciate it.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_02: I don't feel bad when I misspell things.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_02: I I would just feel bad or mispronounce.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_02: I would just feel bad all the time, but that was the case.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_02: So Garcia's Pere uh Garcia Perez gave officers his driver's license, which they used to verify his identity.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_02: The court documents alleged the officers asked Perez to put his car in park and to exit the vehicle, but then he ignored the officers' orders, allegedly.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_02: After about a minute of conversation in Spanish, Garcia Perez abruptly closed the window and then drove off, striking the officer on the torso with the driver's side view mirror, according to the Justice Department.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_02: The complaint confirms that the officer who shot Garcia Perez did not have a body camera.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_02: Garcia Perez led officers, as I mentioned, on a high-speed vehicle chase, according to the court documents.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_02: And during that chase, one officer lost sight of his partner and Garcia Perez.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_02: Minutes later, the partner called and said that Perez had tried to hit him with his car and that he had fired his pistol according to the complaint.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_02: Now, following the shooting, the ICE uh anti-ICE protesters, of course, took to the streets of Austin, decrying the incident as an unprovoked attack.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_02: And all the narratives formed regarding this.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_02: And this was used in story after story, post after post, as another example doing that thing with my fingers of how ICE is out of control, a dangerous Gustavo organization like Governor Dimwalls talks about.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_02: Nope.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's another further example of what we've talked about so often on the show.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_02: And why that judge, as we reported yesterday, dismissed a handful of individuals' lawsuit against ICE over their perception that ICE, you know, basically brutalized them when they were the ones getting in the way of uh ICE and their operations during uh Operation uh Metro Surge.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_02: Uh let's go back to uh the blaster line this morning, uh 651-964-0294, and we'll hear from a friend of the show, Jeff.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_10: Hi, Jeff.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_10: From still, John Rachel.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_10: Can we just cut to the cheese, get to the point?
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_10: The Democrat Party, all the fake news or whatever, artificial news.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_10: They don't like America.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_10: Wow, they don't like us.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_10: They won't report the news to self there.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_10: When they do, they fake it.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_10: The only gonna report the news that it expands your stupid narrative.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_10: Well, I love America, and I'm pretty sure everybody's supposed to show it as too, except for that moron from Brainerd.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_10: Uh Beatrice, or whatever her name is.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_10: Have a great day.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_02: Beatrice.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_02: I love how he just chose another uh how do I want to word this?
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it's an that's a Beatrice is typically a name that people would say would be associated with uh those who are older.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_02: Let's put it that way, right?
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Mildred is what you are uh is what you're looking for there, Mildred.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Mildred's left uh quite a few uh comments already this morning, but none of them have been worthy of your time.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_02: So uh they've just been going right into the uh right into the trash folder on my desktop.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_02: So there you go.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_24: Yeah, you're going over that uh court land with Trump there.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_24: And what do you mean boggling my mind is these these liberals?
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_24: America's fuck so bad.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_24: It's horrible.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_24: It's terrible under that.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_24: Bloodthirsty dictator Trump.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_24: And yes, they're fighting tooth and nail to send these poor second and third world immigrants searching for a better life to a country that's far, far better than the United States.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's all it's all politically agenda-driven.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_02: It makes no sense at all.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_02: We have further examples of that when it comes to Keith Ellison coming up uh later on uh in the show.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for the uh comment uh here on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
• 50:21
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• 51:01
  SPEAKER_02: All right, uh, let's see.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_02: We've got other comments that are uh rolling in.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go here.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_02: You know, John, whether it's Mildred or Beatrice, we can be sure of one thing.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_02: This person is a friend of Dorothy.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, full circle there on the commentary and a pull callback from yesterday.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's pretty awesome.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_02: You guys are the best.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go here.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_02: Angry women screaming into the void is nothing new.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_20: Where is he going?
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_02: But now some are paying hundreds or even thousands of dollars for the privilege.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_02: You can just do that.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_02: You can just find a place and just go scream.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, they're calling them uh rage retreats, and they're gaining traction, apparently.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_02: Organizers are making a killing on the concept per a Bloomberg report.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_02: Christina uh Mc Menomin.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_02: Christina McMenomen.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_02: A popular rage her.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_02: So that's capital R A G E lowercase H E R.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_02: Rage her.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_02: Like rage her, but rage her.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_02: Should have workshopped that a little bit more, I think.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_02: That doesn't really work.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_02: Uh but the popular rage her sessions, see attendees paying up to$95 for two and a half hours of pure rage expression.
• 52:25
  unknown: Wow.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_02: Listen, capitalism at its finest, I'll give it to you, but what a colossal waste of money.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_02: $95.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_02: You know what?
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_02: I paid$95 for two and a half hours of just watching a bunch of women being idiots.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_02: That's worth it.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_02: I'll go an extra, I'll pay a hundred bucks.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_02: Two and a half hours?
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_02: I could spend two and a half hours watching a bunch of uh women acting like morons ragering.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_02: Or I could watch you know Avatar Fire in Ash again.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_02: It's about the same length of time.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_02: Six, seven.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_02: Uh the outlet noted that the events often sell out and have waiting lists.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_02: Uh that joke just a moment ago was for the viewers of the show.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_02: The listeners have no idea what I just did.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_02: More than 20% of the attendees are repeat customers.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_02: Who's doing this?
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_02: The business model has been on fire over the course of the last uh few years.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Mia Banducci, who goes by Mia Magic, M-A-G-I-K, became a famous TikTok uh influencer for her rage ritual retreats.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_02: Her retreats run six days with a group screaming ritual in the woods as a centerpiece and a cost of up to$4,000 per person.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so here's my question.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_02: You know the old you know, I gotta take a take a vacation from my vacation, right?
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_02: You go on vacation, and a lot of times depending on what kind of vacation you go on, right?
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_02: It could be a lot of work, and you get back from your vacation.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_02: Vacation from a vacation.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_02: This sounds to me like you would go and do these rage retreats, you blow all this money.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_02: Are you really walking away feeling a sense of relief in any way, shape, or form?
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_02: Have you bettered yourself at all?
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_02: I question all of it.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_02: For a more spiritual component, oh come on, there are holy rage retreats.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_02: This$600 half day retreat includes a meditative session and a guided ritual that, according to Bloomberg, aims to help women express their rage through screams, growls, and excessive behavior.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_02: So I know my wife Melinda is listening.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I would if she wanted to go on a rage retreat, she absolutely could, I would allow her to go and to do that.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_02: I just I know she's talked about like wanting to buy like a punching bag just to let out, right?
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_02: You get a little exercise, you get a little aggression out.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_02: Is this akin to that or is this taking it a step further?
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_25: Good morning, John Alex Elk River.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_25: Can you imagine going to a rage retreat full of women like Beatrice?
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_25: And they're all screaming into the void using.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_02: Are we just gonna call Eric and Brader Beatrice now?
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_02: Is this what's happening?
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_02: Have the listeners decided we're just gonna change it, we're just gonna change his name.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_02: I already changed it once to Mildred because that's their real name.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_02: So is this where we play it?
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_02: How many names will Eric from Braider come, you know, end up being attached to?
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_02: You got Eric, you got Mildred.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_02: I did a hole earlier in the week.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_02: Now you got Beatrice, moron, idiot.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_25: Their uh their voiceover technology, that would be freaking hilarious to see.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_25: Have a good day.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_25: Great show.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_02: I had a uh comment that rolled in anonymously, and uh they said, well, you know, regarding rage retreats, some folks have to find something to do when the NBA season is uh in the offseason.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_02: Oof! The Lynx! Holy cow.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_02: That's rough.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_02: Were they were they number one?
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_02: Were they number were they the number one seed, Devin?
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_02: Weren't they?
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_28: Yes, they were.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_28: They were the number one seed.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_28: They were unstoppable for the first three months of the season, the last six weeks.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_28: It's been and clearly ended bad.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so they lost last night.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_02: It was semi was the semifinals?
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_02: Is that what it was?
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_02: We were getting close to it, right?
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, we're getting into the playoffs, in the playoff territory.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_28: Yeah, it was the first round of the playoffs.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's the first round of the playoffs, okay.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_02: And then do we know the seed of the team that beat the Lynx?
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_02: The eighth seed.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_02: There's only eighth playoff team.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_02: All right, thank you.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_02: I don't you know, I don't keep up with those.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I just saw the story this morning, and I just so so incredibly typical of Minnesota Sports.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_28: I didn't watch a second of the season the entire time until the first playoff game, and they gave up a 15-0 run, and I'm like, I'm clearly bad luck.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_02: I wonder if anybody uh threw uh dimdos out on the court in uh protest of the uh Lynx uh going uh going out and was it the thing?
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_02: So basically, did they go out in the first round?
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_02: Is that what it was?
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_02: Uh let's see, got a couple of comments that rolled into the blaster line as we continue to talk about the uh rage retreats.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_02: As I suspected, this story is uh is taking off.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_02: Uh don't change Eric to Beatrice.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_02: That's my daughter's name.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_02: How old is your daughter?
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_02: This must be a new trend, by the way.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to begrudge anybody for, and I'm not, I'm not criticizing anybody for naming their children whatever they name them.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_02: I wanted to name Logan Wedge for crying out loud, and Melinda wouldn't let me, so that is his middle name.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, for those unfamiliar, as Devin looked just a moment ago.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_02: So Wedge was the only um rebel pilot in the original trilogy who fought in all of the main battles.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_02: Does that make sense?
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_02: You follow?
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_02: I think so.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so there's a series of battles, the wars that take place in Star Wars.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_02: Wedge was the only rebel pilot, at least we see on screen in terms of a character, was the only like main, even though he's a side character, who participated in each of the main altercations with the Empire in the original trilogy.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_02: I just think the name is cool.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_02: So Melinda wouldn't wouldn't.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_02: She said we can give him the middle name, but not the first name.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_02: Instead, we went with Logan, uh, which was you know Logan from Wolverine or Logan's Run, this kind of thing.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_02: So I I bring all this up as I wipe out uh because I just I see this trend of individuals who seem to be adopting older names.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so Beatrice is an older name.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_02: We have a we have a uh one of the individuals here, Jill, who has a daughter named Gertie.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_02: Jill's actually going to be joining us coming up on a Freedom Friday recently.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_02: So maybe this is a new trend of individuals naming their kids names that were typically associated with, you know, older individuals.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_02: It's interesting.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_02: Uh let's see.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_02: So a rage retreat for women, and yet they allow a man, Mildred, in.
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_02: Well, we don't know.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_02: We think that Eric Mildred Beatrice A hole may be using a voice disguiser.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_02: I think Myrtle would be a better moniker for Eric and Brainerd.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's interesting.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_02: Uh let's see.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Beatrice is the name of the uh girlfriend of Dungeon Crawler Carl, who's a horrible person, so it kind of makes sense.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_02: I I I have no idea what any of those are.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_10: You're fascinating to talk to.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, Wedge Antilles was his last name.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_02: Antilles was his last name.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, thank you.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, wow.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_02: And the individual named Beatrice, the daughter, is uh she's 14 years old.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 59:43
  unknown: Interesting.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_02: All right, let's get to uh some more of your uh comments.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_13: Great shows morning, John.
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_13: Hey, I just wanted to say my wife has a rage retreat every weekend with me.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_16: Oh.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_16: How does that work?
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_16: Oh, very good.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_16: Very good.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_02: I wonder if Dim Walls and Gwen, I wonder if they would get involved in rage, rage retreats.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_02: I bet that Governor Dim Walls went on a rage retreat twice.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_02: Once when they lost the election, and then two when he uh dropped out of his historic uh third run uh for uh governor retreat.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks, everybody! You guys are the best.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_02: Time flies when we're having fun here on the John Justice show.
• 1:00:53
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• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_02: We've been working through the story.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_02: Angry women are paying thousands of dollars to go on rage retreats, punching and kicking a bag while screaming my face off was exactly what I needed to process and release all the big emotions.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_02: All the all the all the big emotions.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_02: What do you do with all those little emotions?
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_02: What happens what happens with those?
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_02: So the so-called rage retreats gaining traction.
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_02: Organizers are making a lot of money.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, you see uh sessions for some attendees at one rage retreat,$95 for two and a half hours of pure anger expression.
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_02: You have another one where uh you can run six days in your rage retreat and be out in the middle of the woods costing$4,000 a person, and then a spiritual holy rage retreat.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_02: A$600 half-day retreat includes a meditative session and a guided ritual that, according to Bloomberg, aims to help women express their rage through, again, screams, growls, and other expressive uh behaviors.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_02: Now, similar versions of the spectacle also exist, with some women offering smash parties or other anger expression focused outlets in their backyards for as little as$25.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_02: Bloomberg noted that Rachel Meal, speaking about hosting one such event after becoming angry over her cancer diagnosis.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, well, that's no laughing matter.
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_02: And having no singular person to address it with.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_02: I would It's a horrible thing for somebody to be dealing with cancer, obviously, right?
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't want to make fun of that, and I'm not making fun of that.
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_02: However, I would think that raging out would be the exact opposite of what you would want to do if you're fighting cancer.
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like I would think that you would not want to be releasing all of the chemicals that are involved in stress.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_02: I know you're supposed to be relieving stress, but this would seem counterintuitive uh to me.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_02: But, you know, then again.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not a doctor.
• 1:03:11
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• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_02: So 651-964-0294.
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_02: Uh keep your comments uh rolling in uh to the uh blaster line.
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  SPEAKER_02: She says, I'm not a violent or aggressive person by any means.
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_02: I've never been in a fist fight.
• 1:03:30
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not a yeller, but punching and kicking that bag while screaming my face off, again, was exactly what I needed to process and release all those big emotions that had nowhere else to go.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so the context of that quote makes a little bit more sense now.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_02: Most of the events cater only to women, going back to uh Beatrice.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_02: But Love Your Rage in London Love Your Rage is a more inclusive rage retreat and invites um it says W-M-O-X-N.
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_02: What is that?
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  SPEAKER_02: Femmes and other non-jet non gender non-conforming individuals.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_02: What is a Wimok thong?
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  SPEAKER_02: W-O-M-X-N.
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  SPEAKER_02: You learn something new every day.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_02: This is a new gender non-conforming way to speak to uh so they're not a woman anymore.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_02: They are uh a woman.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh that's that's just strange.
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  SPEAKER_02: Anyways, those individuals can participate and be held in a circle of sisters and is supported every step of the way when you reconsider your wild within.
• 1:04:37
  SPEAKER_02: All right, let's get to a few more of your thoughts.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
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  SPEAKER_02: Friend of the show, Sean from Southern Minnesota says, Tell me uh white liberal women uh suffer from mental and hormonal issues without telling me white liberal women suffer from the mental and hormonal issues.
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  SPEAKER_02: By the way, did you see yesterday, just as a side note, and I have a little squirrel moment, so Reddington, the defense attorney for Lindsey Clancy, so they're talking about the retrial starting up in November, and he's now come out and said that there's no evidence that she did it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Man, you want to talk about evil when it comes to some lawyers, not all lawyers.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, and Jeff and James, I'm not talking about you guys.
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  SPEAKER_02: You guys are fantastic.
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  SPEAKER_02: But think about that for a moment.
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  SPEAKER_02: This lawyer is completely aware of all of the ridiculous nonsense as we talk about, you know, rage retreats in women.
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  SPEAKER_02: All the ridiculous nonsense surrounding the commentary of Lindsey Clancy and those morons out there that still think that her husband did it, even though she admitted to it and he said as much in previous testimony, and now he's arguing in front of the court that there's no evidence that she did it.
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  SPEAKER_02: I just And you know what?
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  SPEAKER_02: It'll probably end up working.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's the real sad, tragic part about the whole thing.
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  SPEAKER_24: Hey, I'm all for all these women paying tens and thousands of dollars to go and yell and scream and destroy stuff and let out their rage.
• 1:05:55
  SPEAKER_24: It's a lot cheaper than guys paying tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars for women to marry.
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  SPEAKER_24: them just so they could do the same thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you know, I get I I gotcha.
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  SPEAKER_14: Good morning, John Vicker.
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  SPEAKER_14: You know, I do find these rage this rage retreat thing interesting because um conservative men have been saying this for years.
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  SPEAKER_14: What they're doing is um going out in nature and getting some exercise and that makes them feel better.
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  SPEAKER_15: Good morning John these rage retreats are actually very helpful.
• 1:06:32
  SPEAKER_15: My wife went to the one that um Andy Klobuchar had um and so it was very effective, got a lot of uh stuff out of her heart.
• 1:06:41
  unknown: Gotcha.
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  unknown: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh I had a uh fantastic comment that rolled in from a beautiful woman who's much more intelligent than uh I am and she has a fantastic idea.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_02: Give us a fight club too but it's based on all the awful beating each other up that is an absolutely brilliant idea.
• 1:07:04
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 1:07:05
  SPEAKER_02: Fight club too the only rule about the awful is we don't talk about the awful 44% of Democrats are okay with the violence to stop Trump.
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_02: We talked about this earlier in the week we'll see about giving you some details a little bit later on in the show.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_02: I'll provide you the uh super intelligent summary see what I did there see see what I did look at that the University of Chicago study found that 25% of American adults including 44% of Democrats support using force to prevent Donald Trump from becoming president.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is support for political violence which has increased significantly since 2021.
• 1:07:42
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not laughing I'm laughing it's a serious matter it is but it's a joke that that many individuals think that's okay.
• 1:07:50
  SPEAKER_02: I just I'd rather laugh than get go into my own rage retreat on the show.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's raising concerns about potential violence during the 2026 midterm elections.
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  SPEAKER_02: The study highlights the growing acceptance of political violence among ordinary Americans driven by factors like partisan hostility demographic change and economic anxiety so we'll try to go and spend uh some time uh on this uh later on uh in the um in the show right now I want to get you updated on one quick story and then uh we'll take a short break.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna thank some of the amazing sponsors of the show and I'm going to uh see if I can't get Eric Pratt we have him scheduled for the show Congressman Eric Pratt so we're gonna see if we can't get him uh on the line before I do that though um this is a very serious story we have an update and unfortunately the speculation that we shared here on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment turned out to be correct and it was the worst case scenario.
• 1:08:47
  SPEAKER_02: Piao Yang 41 arrested and charged with kidnapping sexual assault and other felonies after allegedly abducting a woman at gunpoint in Roseville, Minnesota.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now we have the preliminary details on Freedom Friday of last week and it was it was missing a lot of the context here.
• 1:09:07
  SPEAKER_02: The woman was held captive for a while uh there was reports that she was assaulted we didn't know the details and we speculated the worst and it turns out that our speculation was correct.
• 1:09:18
  SPEAKER_02: Uh the victim was held captive for approximately eight hours before being released in St.
• 1:09:22
  SPEAKER_02: Paul Yang was identified through evidence from a target store and arrested in St.
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  SPEAKER_02: Paul with assistance from the Ramsey County Sheriff.
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to play for you some of the uh Roseville police department uh providing an update and specifically how they used the target surveillance to help detectives unravel uh the mystery of who conducted this heinous uh kidnapping the suspect blindfolded her covered her mouth and then forced her into a vehicle she was held captive for the next eight hours police say the masked and armed suspect took her into the woods and tied her up dumped her car somewhere else then came back in his own SUV he took her away to some kind of warehouse where he sexually assaulted her and made her shower and put on a brand new dress.
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  SPEAKER_34: He threatened her life more than once but eventually dumped her near failing golf course in St.
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  SPEAKER_34: Paul bystanders rounded up the police after she walked to a nearby holiday and detectives got right to work tracking down a man the victim never really saw.
• 1:10:30
  SPEAKER_34: A camera at the woman's workplace was tampered with the police got their best clue when she identified the dress he made her wear it came from Target and the company found surveillance video of a man walking out of the blane store after buying it.
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  SPEAKER_34: The victim's co-workers identified that man as a cleaner named Pao who worked there some nights detectives found license plate reader data showing Pao Yang's SUV driving towards his home early Thursday morning and phone records showed he was in the area of the kidnapping and rape.
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  SPEAKER_34: Police later found evidence that his dice home including zip ties, a mask and firearms.
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  SPEAKER_32: They arrested him Friday and they're now looking into whether he committed more crimes at the other four businesses where he cleaned by 29 years you just don't see many cases like this where somebody is just presumably going about their day and suddenly they're a victim of just a horrendous um horrendous crime and so it is really rare.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's really disturbing made his first court appearance this morning on six felony charges that could lead to dozens of years in prison if he's convicted a judge set his bail at two and a half million dollars scary times indeed and thankfully this individual is uh off the uh streets and prayers go out to the woman uh who had to endure this incredibly traumatic experience.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right coming up why did Misabi Metallics choose Iowa instead of Minnesota I spent quite a bit of time uh digging into this and I'm gonna provide some insight and information you have not heard uh anywhere else yet also we're hoping to talk with uh Congressman Eric Pratt to get his thoughts on uh this Minnesota based company headquartered in India but the ore will be mined here in Minnesota why Iowa ended up getting this steel plant instead of us.
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  SPEAKER_02: We are American Experiment go to americanexperiment.org to learn more and joining us now here on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment I believe we've uh worked at the King South I am very pleased to welcome uh Eric Eric Pratt running for Congress the website is eric prrattamn uh good morning uh Eric thank you so much for joining the show and uh my apologies for the technical uh difficulties that we were having getting you on today oh no problem thanks John great to be with you and your listeners today listen before we uh get into the reason why I invited you on this morning I was very curious to get your thoughts and we're gonna be doing a bit of a deep dive this hour into why Misabi Metallics ended up choosing Iowa for their massive uh multibillion dollar steel plant as opposed to Minnesota especially considering the fact that they'll be mining the ore here in Minnesota.
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  SPEAKER_02: Before we get to that let's just get your thoughts right now as we you know head into the final weeks of this um election cycle and talk a little bit about your uh campaign and I know based off of our data here at Center of the American Experiment in the most recent Thinking Minnesota poll that we've been exclusively releasing the details on, fraud seems to be uh the biggest issue on the minds of uh potential voters here in Minnesota.
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  SPEAKER_08: Is that the case for you as you're out talking um with uh with potential voters there Eric Pratt well I'll tell you uh fraud is is still top of mind of of most of the voters and you know it's interesting because we're talking about the high cost of living and voters and and people in the second district are really tying the amount of fraud that we've seen to how it's impacting their ability to to live their daily lives.
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  SPEAKER_08: I mean it's having a real impact and uh folks are upset.
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  SPEAKER_02: How do you want to see this issue of fraud tackled um you know it's a it you'll be in a unique position uh serving uh in Congress we uh we'll be talking in detail about um attorney general Keith Ellison you know made the announcement yesterday of the charges against some fraudsters but it does raise the question of you know it's great that we're charging individuals but why aren't we taking care of this on on the front end?
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  SPEAKER_02: What sort of solutions would you like to see implemented to deal with this fraud whether it's here in Minnesota or the fraud that we've seen you know nationwide?
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  SPEAKER_08: So I uh you know I led fraud teams for uh uh two different companies um and you know it sounds pretty intuitive but you can't find fraud unless you actually look for it and uh and so what I've been proposing is look the the nine billion dollars we've seen in fraud absolutely falls on the laps of Tim Walls and Keith Ellison they were asleep at the wheel um and what we've seen from the Star Tribune reporting uh shockingly is that uh they just for the most part ignored it but the question that came up to me when I when I first saw this was who at the federal government was looking out for this and is there a function that's actually looking for fraud before it reaches nine billion dollars we've got lots of different agencies but um you know I would like to have uh uh a function within Congress that's actually looking at fraud waste and abuse asking the questions why are Minnesota's expenses going up 200% year over year and let's take a look at that and then making sure that Congress is actually writing the laws and setting the guidelines uh within the legislation so that uh states have to follow it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Let's turn our attention over to uh the big story that Trump made the announcement on earlier this week.
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  SPEAKER_02: On Monday this new um$15 billion steel plant will be coming the Lee County Iowa the announcement uh poses an important question why Iowa so I'm gonna get into the details of this and it turns out there actually is some economic benefit that we will be receiving because of this.
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  SPEAKER_02: What I find interesting uh Eric Pratt uh again congressional candidate is the fact that there's been no DFL leadership talking about the potential handful of billions of dollars that we'll receive and it has to be in my mind because they don't want to bring attention to the fact that uh Misabi Metallics chose Iowa to actually build their steel facility over Minnesota but what do you think was the driving factor as to why they didn't choose Minnesota to build this steel uh facility you know I worked I worked in the in you know I chaired the Senate jobs committee for four years and you know we worked really hard to attract investment in jobs to the state of Minnesota and with the trifecta we put so many rules in place uh so many barriers in place that it's it's hard for somebody like Wasabi to come in and make those investments um we as you mentioned we are going to have a mine it's gonna employ 300 full-time jobs in the state of Minnesota um but the the big part of this was the processing they could have just moved the tack and about a half a mile down the road uh and made feel and that would have been an additional 700 1700 uh full-time jobs that could have been in the state of Minnesota that are now going to Iowa um there would have been 17 billion dollars of investment in the state and we let it leave or we've we've left 17 billion dollars in investment leave I should say um and so if if everything that we we've said would happen uh when the trifecta took place um our permitting doesn't allow these projects to move forward in a timely manner uh we we have way too much bureaucracy and when you add in um the taxes and the workforce regulations that we have it makes other states more uh more attractive you know what can what should we do in the future I mean I obviously we should be doing more to go and entice these you know major you know companies uh to invest here in Minnesota is there anything that can be done in the short term or is this something that we have to be looking more at long term provided that we get you know leadership that's going to be more pro-business than what we've seen certainly during the DFL trifecta here in Minnesota you know it's gonna take some changes by the legislature i i tried to work on permitting reform we had a bipartisan bill come in place uh come through and it got whittled down so bad got whittled down so bad that it it had virtually no impact uh tim wall said he was gonna do permitting reform never touched it never touched it um remember his first uh his first year in office he was gonna have regulatory humility and what have we done we've passed earn sick and save time paid family medical leave all these programs that are causing it to be more expensive to create a job in Minnesota than other states let's turn our attention over uh back over to uh your campaign uh the issue of affordability was high as well on our Thinking Minnesota poll uh that will be released here in the coming weeks that we've been sharing some of that exclusive uh information on what are your what's your messaging to voters that are concerned about not just the economy but the impact on their bottom line when it comes to the gas prices, when it comes to the price of groceries or you know diesel you think you had Greg Abbott declared his own state of emergency over the diesel prices that's more influenced by Russia and Ukraine than Iran.
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  SPEAKER_02: But what message are you giving to the voters that are concerned about affordability heading into this election?
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  SPEAKER_08: You know uh families are working harder and doing everything right and they deserve a government that makes life more affordable not more expensive for them.
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  SPEAKER_08: I remind you I'm reminding voters that it was the the Democrats that spent the$18 billion surplus and they got virtually nothing for it.
• 1:27:43
  SPEAKER_08: I'm reminding them that while they were spending the$18 billion deficit they retaxed the$10 billion.
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  SPEAKER_08: And while they like to run around and say that you know we're uh they're taxing the risk, they increased the sales tax, they increased the payroll tax they they created the new delivery um they they increase the gas tax they increase uh tab fees uh when they when they say they're taxing the rich they mean they're taxing you and that's starting to connect with people uh housing continues to be one that um you know we're we're seeing uh people buying their first house later and later in life and and looking to remove some of the federal permits and I think quite honestly uh even uh our own met council me I've worked uh for years trying to reform our own Met Council so that we're building the houses that people want not the houses that Governor Wall's appointees want us to have.
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  SPEAKER_02: Boy you know what it's funny when whenever I hear somebody bring up uh the the the Met Council um you know it's really lucky for them they've been flying under the radar as of late we haven't talked much about the Met Council but there needs to be a lot more focus on the Met hu on the on the Met Council just as a sidebar uh Eric uh Eric Pratt uh it should be it should be more a topic of conversation it hasn't been as of late because of everything that's been going on but the Met Council does not get enough grief in my opinion.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's my commentary by the way Eric Pratt I just wanted to throw that in there so I didn't know if you had anything to add.
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  SPEAKER_02: We could take up two or three shows on that one I think uh listen Eric Pratt thank you for the time this morning uh eric pratttmn uh.com before I let you go today is there anything else uh that you would like to uh say to the uh to to the listener uh ahead of the ahead of the elections here in a few weeks yeah uh the you know the campaign's going great uh we're picking up theme uh and and I would just encourage your listeners to go out and follow us on social media we're uh ericcradmn.com on Facebook uh X Insta uh TikTok um we've got the same the same moniker out there uh go to the website ericcratmn.com uh sign up for a yard sign sign up to door knock uh we could use all the help we can get even make a donation um uh we're really working hard to get out talk to voters and and let them know that there's a real choice this time in the second district um with this being an open seat it changes the uh it changes the dynamic uh completely and uh I'm excited uh and I hope uh people will come join us well let's be sure uh to talk again uh before uh people actually head directly to the polls to vote none of this early voting uh nonsense although make sure you do go and vote regardless if it's early or on election day but uh Eric Pratt and again uh the website uh for the congressional candidate Eric Pratt that's two teesmn.com uh thank you for coming on again apologies for the technical issues uh but I appreciate the short notice and I look forward to the next time you and I have a chance to uh talk.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thanks, John Lindy.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right let me share this with you.
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to get into the mining issue.
• 1:30:50
  SPEAKER_02: I have some fantastic commentary from friend of the show and uh champion and fighting for Minneapolis Becca Thompson that I want to share.
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  SPEAKER_02: First off let me go here just briefly since we're talking about the elections and candidates.
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  SPEAKER_02: Alpha News has a piece out uh today and it is Senate rematch in Northern Minnesota Pitts Republican mayor against DFL incumbent.
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  SPEAKER_02: Minnesota Senate is on the ballot for the first time since Democrats had a trifecta in state government controlling the governorship, the Senate and the Minnesota House of Representatives from 2023 to 24.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: One of the DFLers who was a part of the legislative session was Senator Grant Hoschild representing Senate District 3.
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  SPEAKER_02: Back in 2022 Hoschild won his first term in the Senate when he beat um a Republican by less than two points.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now that Republican Andrea uh Zuppinch I'm probably saying that wrong I got to get that one right uh Zupin uh Zuppin's uh by less than two points.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now Zupensinch is the mayor of Babbitt and is running against Hoschild again and the race could be even closer than last time.
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  SPEAKER_02: Currently the Senate has a one vote DFL majority and a change in just that one seat would hand the chamber to Republicans.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hoschild is considered one of the most vulnerable Democrats in the Senate two years ago his district was won by President Donald Trump.
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  SPEAKER_02: So why do I bring this up?
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  SPEAKER_02: I bring this up because a rather interesting um narrative has emerged from Grant Hoschild that people have uh discovered.
• 1:32:25
  SPEAKER_02: So you know data centers are a big deal.
• 1:32:27
  SPEAKER_02: We were talking about President Donald Trump he's renaming artificial intelligence via an executive order to superintelligence.
• 1:32:33
  SPEAKER_02: I was a little bit hesitant to hop on board with that but I think that what the president is doing is trying to differentiate as we enter into the artificial intelligence wars with the other countries.
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  SPEAKER_02: He wants to differentiate what we're doing here in the U.S among our tech giants of SpaceX, Elon Musk, meta, uhanthropic you name it.
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  SPEAKER_02: He wants to differentiate the U.S.
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  SPEAKER_02: from our adversaries as we wage this uh artificial intelligence war.
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  SPEAKER_02: Data centers are a big portion of this.
• 1:33:04
  SPEAKER_02: Huge, huge controversy crosses party lines.
• 1:33:09
  SPEAKER_02: It's being exploited by our adversaries.
• 1:33:11
  SPEAKER_02: There are those in other countries like China that are pushing ridiculous narratives online, false social media posts, videos all to sow division between Republicans and Democrats here in the United States.
• 1:33:27
  SPEAKER_02: It's not just China by the way as a side note there was a story this morning the leaders in Iran are urging American voters to vote against Trump.
• 1:33:35
  SPEAKER_02: You know the sad part is you're gonna have the broken and the brainwashed leftists that'll actually go and say that's a good thing, that the murderous regime leadership in Iran is encouraging individuals to vote against Trump but yet this is where we this is where we are be that as it may, data centers, incredibly controversial I'm in support of data centers as long as they're in a location that's advantageous for it.
• 1:33:59
  SPEAKER_02: A place where it's not going and impacting a quality of life and can provide the opportunity to bring in jobs right and income and revenue to particular areas and small towns across the country.
• 1:34:11
  SPEAKER_02: Well there's a potential of a data center that could go up in the district where Grant Hoschild is in this battle with the mayor from Babbitt.
• 1:34:20
  SPEAKER_02: Something really interesting has happened though.
• 1:34:22
  SPEAKER_02: Grant Hoschild is running ads talking about his concerns over data centers and it runs headlong into the commentary that he's given on the floor during the most recent legislative session.
• 1:34:36
  SPEAKER_02: So what you're gonna hear is about 90 seconds and it goes back and forth.
• 1:34:40
  SPEAKER_02: It's Grant Hoschild on the floor during a floor session in the Minnesota State Legislature in St.
• 1:34:47
  SPEAKER_02: Paul juxtaposed next to clips of recent Grant Hoschild campaign ads that are running right now.
• 1:34:55
  SPEAKER_02: They contradict each other it's the height of hypocrisy one of these data centers is the size of U.S.
• 1:35:04
  SPEAKER_31: Bank Stadium larger than the bonding bill that we will pass later today.
• 1:35:10
  SPEAKER_31: Think about that.
• 1:35:12
  SPEAKER_30: I'm Grant Hoschild and we thought we'd show you what can happen with data centers.
• 1:35:16
  SPEAKER_31: Think about the economic impact that these data centers bring to Minnesota first they're really big one building can be 40 acres that's thousands of construction jobs hundreds of long-term jobs for each one of these data centers they can be noisy that's not even mentioning the local community benefits that come from the local sales the the local uh sales tax and benefits that local communities get from these data centers use up a lot of water and a lot of electricity transformative when you consider the school districts and local city benefits that they will get from these data centers.
• 1:36:18
  SPEAKER_31: That's 20 billion with a B dollars in data centers in their state we should want that here in Minnesota.
• 1:36:27
  SPEAKER_02: I don't work for big tech I work for you know it's like you know it's like some Democrats don't actually stand by or for anything it's almost as if they just simply shift with the political winds it's a it's it's almost like that it's amazing.
• 1:36:57
  SPEAKER_17: Zuponsic Zuponcich thank you Lou much much appreciated Zuponsic who's unfamiliar with the Republican mayor out of Babbitt Andrea Zuponsich so with the AI fear stoking by foreign parties what we need to do is call AI hate racism.
• 1:37:25
  SPEAKER_17: That way we won't be able to do it anymore.
• 1:37:26
  SPEAKER_02: We can't hate AI and I use on our greatest strength which is our freedom against us all I know is that I am incredibly incredibly uh kind to my AI I just want to say that I tell him thank you I say good morning he's very kind back I just want to say that oh my gosh could it be could it possibly be John good morning this is Dom from Maple Grove.
• 1:37:54
  SPEAKER_02: Dom from Maple I just discovered your new role with the Center for American Experiment This is incredible I feel like I've come full circle now everybody keeps asking about Tom too I don't know where Tom went actually I had a Brandon friend of the show had left a uh a blast early this morning uh for those that aren't familiar boy I think Dom supersedes Devin are you familiar with Dom Devin?
• 1:38:16
  SPEAKER_02: Does that ring a bell at all?
• 1:38:18
  SPEAKER_02: I think he does supersede me.
• 1:38:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah I don't think we haven't heard from Dom in forever.
• 1:38:22
  SPEAKER_02: Dom it's great to hear from you and I'll go ahead and play your comments now.
• 1:38:26
  SPEAKER_46: John good morning this is Dom from Maple Grove.
• 1:38:29
  SPEAKER_46: I just discovered your new role with the Center for American Experiment uh we had uh John Hinderaker as a guest speaker at our Rotary Club meeting on Tuesday which is yesterday he was referring to the good work they're doing in Minnesota and he happened to mention you as the guy shining the light on the fraud in Minnesota.
• 1:38:51
  SPEAKER_46: One of the people in the audience immediately raised his hand and said oh John Justice the right winger I would take that news I would not take that news very seriously.
• 1:39:01
  SPEAKER_46: Just an FYI if you want to hear it.
• 1:39:04
  SPEAKER_02: Dom it's uh fantastic to hear from you I'm glad you uh I'm glad you found the show people are still uh figuring out uh where I have uh landed after my unceremonious uh departure from the previous job so it is fantastic to hear from you and I know that I'm not just speaking for myself but I'm speaking for a lot of friends uh of the uh of the show I hope you'll continue to participate remember that number is 651-964-0294 hey John Kevin from Oneamia hey I was just up at a data center building in North Dakota it's in a perfect spot straight up it's outside of uh any major town it's uh out in the middle of nowhere right in the middle of the field it is employing eighteen hundred people currently and growing every day in their working well paid jobs people from all over the country are working there I mean it's a huge boom for North Dakota thank you for the comment on the uh blaster line uh let's go here hi John I just wanted to share with you that someone hopefully will who has money to do this will create a commercial with what you just just opposed thing um sorry uh to turn that into a quicker commercial that can be used uh um for his uh for aircraft anyway I thought that was really interesting thank you good morning Devin and John this individual who's over there going wishy washy how did wait how did you get taught building when did that happen?
• 1:41:00
  SPEAKER_02: What's going on Scott?
• 1:41:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's because I haven't been doing the ScottCon levels huh that's what it is.
• 1:41:08
  SPEAKER_02: Are you angling for my gig?
• 1:41:10
  SPEAKER_02: Am I unaware of this?
• 1:41:11
  SPEAKER_25: I don't think you have the time Devin and John this individual who's over there going wishy washy about data centers is not just something that is to the left of center in the political aisle.
• 1:41:28
  SPEAKER_25: Politicians in general have a propensity to do that and that's why they some of them at least stick to my stomach because they're not of conviction they're about finger in the wind how can I get elected so I can become important over being useful.
• 1:41:42
  SPEAKER_25: As the data centers themselves I'm not a big fan of them I understand they're needed but what we all need to realize is as we pull towards this AI being an integral part of our lives it's going to eliminate a lot of people's jobs and when it becomes your job there may be some disdain for the fact that you supported it early on I think people are important to stay in people jobs and not like computers take over every aspect of our lives so Arnold Schwarzenegger doesn't walk in and say where is Sarah Connors?
• 1:42:16
  SPEAKER_02: Look I um I I understand the sentiment but at the same time technology isn't slowing down and throughout history humanity has had to adjust to emerging technology and you know find new avenues in which to you know find jobs in businesses.
• 1:42:41
  SPEAKER_02: I I I get the concern over artificial intelligence but it's here it's not going anywhere.
• 1:42:48
  SPEAKER_02: You're not putting the genie back in the bottle and hopefully there'll be enough new jobs that will occur and individuals going into fields that will be utilizing AI that they'll be able to make transitions.
• 1:43:03
  SPEAKER_02: I listen the the very existence of the John Justice show presented by American Experiment is the example that I'm referring to.
• 1:43:12
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• 1:43:21
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• 1:43:29
  SPEAKER_02: I continue to see evidence of this daily including some recent news that I won't get get into right now of some sports teams that are leaving particular radio companies and going to other companies which cannot be a good thing for the radio companies that that have them there's a race to the bottom that's taking place.
• 1:43:48
  SPEAKER_02: I made the transition you know and again I'm incredibly blessed that people saw the vision that I had and believe that I you know am producing a a product that ends up fitting with the goals that they have here at American Experiment.
• 1:44:01
  SPEAKER_02: Not all talk show hosts are as uh blessed as I am to have that happen.
• 1:44:06
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• 1:44:10
  SPEAKER_02: Look at what's happening and we're going to talk about this next hour because I want to get to this uh this more of the Misabi Metallics plant because there's a lot of devil in the details that need to be shared and the same thing rings true when we talk about Keith Ellison and his fraud charges yesterday.
• 1:44:25
  SPEAKER_02: So we still have a couple of major stories that we need to get to today.
• 1:44:29
  SPEAKER_02: One of them is going to be an update on the Minneapolis city council essentially banning autonomous vehicles in Minneapolis.
• 1:44:37
  SPEAKER_02: It's all to go and super serve a group of their ardent supporters but it's completely anti the people of Minneapolis anti-business and anti-safety because autonomous vehicles can remove an element of individuals being assaulted in ride share.
• 1:44:57
  SPEAKER_02: By the way I have a clip that I'm gonna have to spend some time on because I'm gonna make a song out of this it's spectacular.
• 1:45:03
  SPEAKER_12: You know and then you can use the Waymo you don't know which way they may go or may not go just get in, okay?
• 1:45:10
  SPEAKER_12: There's way more ways than the way that you got so let's go with those ways the end you know and then you can use the Waymo you don't know which way they may go or may not go just get in, okay?
• 1:45:28
  SPEAKER_02: There's way more ways than the way that you got so let's go with those ways the end That's a Minneapolis City Council member Pearl Warren you know you can use the Waymo you don't know which way they may go or may not go.
• 1:45:43
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• 1:45:44
  SPEAKER_12: You know and then you can use the Waymo you don't know which way they may go or may not go.
• 1:45:50
  SPEAKER_12: Just get in, okay?
• 1:45:51
  SPEAKER_12: There's way more ways than the way that you got so let's go with those ways.
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• 1:45:57
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• 1:45:58
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• 1:50:35
  SPEAKER_02: All right, let's get back to the steel plant.
• 1:50:39
  SPEAKER_02: Some really interesting nuggets came out of my research.
• 1:50:42
  SPEAKER_02: Minnesota wasn't offering the incentives that Misabi wanted.
• 1:50:47
  SPEAKER_02: We talked about this with Eric Pratt earlier in the hour.
• 1:50:50
  SPEAKER_02: The Masabi CEO, Joe Brooking, told the Itasca County Board earlier this month that other states were more competitive in offering incentives for investments in this of this size.
• 1:51:01
  SPEAKER_02: He specifically said that for a game-changing investment, other states were willing to approach the incentives differently.
• 1:51:08
  SPEAKER_02: You see, Iowa lawmakers were already preparing for a possible special session on tax incentives for Misabi just days before the announcement.
• 1:51:18
  SPEAKER_02: Where's Governor Dim Walls?
• 1:51:20
  SPEAKER_02: Where was the DFL leadership?
• 1:51:22
  SPEAKER_02: Where was the leadership from the governor's office for the short timer?
• 1:51:29
  SPEAKER_02: Iowa wasn't simply lucky in getting the Misabi steel plant.
• 1:51:34
  SPEAKER_02: Iowa appears to have been actively courting the project.
• 1:51:39
  SPEAKER_02: My guess is on this, right?
• 1:51:42
  SPEAKER_02: Some speculation here.
• 1:51:43
  SPEAKER_02: My guess is that there was some consternation about going and being in support of this steel mill because here in Minnesota there were probably groups that would have aligned against it.
• 1:51:55
  SPEAKER_02: And with Governor Dim Walls not running for re-election and uh Amy Klobishar being anointed as the uh DFL nominee and then becoming the DFL nominee, it was probably something that they didn't want to have bogged down her campaign and she didn't need to take a stance on it.
• 1:52:11
  SPEAKER_02: I hope that there is a media outlet that uh Amy Klobuchar would be so gracious to bestow her opinion upon that would go and ask her the question of whether or not she would have supported incentivizing Misabi Metallics to come here to Minnesota other than Iowa.
• 1:52:33
  SPEAKER_02: Seemed to be a pretty compelling question considering we lost some$15 to$18 billion or$15 billion.
• 1:52:39
  SPEAKER_02: Now we are going to get some money from this, and I'll get to this in just a second.
• 1:52:42
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Brooking, the CEO of Misabi, has argued that a project intended to modernize and decarbonize steel making needs an efficient environmental permitting process.
• 1:52:51
  SPEAKER_02: MPR reported that Misabi wanted a faster state-level per permitting process for downstream facility.
• 1:52:58
  SPEAKER_02: Were we not able to go and offer that?
• 1:53:00
  SPEAKER_02: Or was that a bridge too far for uh Governor Dim Walls and his administration?
• 1:53:05
  SPEAKER_02: In fact, after the Iowa investment, right, Misabi has not said that Minnesota officials simply refuse to let them build the steel mule.
• 1:53:14
  SPEAKER_02: No, after the Iowa announcement, the company specifically said that it did appreciate the support of Governor Walls and the work of the Minnesota DNR and MPCA on the mine.
• 1:53:25
  SPEAKER_02: Well, of course they did.
• 1:53:26
  SPEAKER_02: They're going to be mining the ore here in Minnesota.
• 1:53:30
  SPEAKER_02: They need to keep a friendly relationship with the current government.
• 1:53:34
  SPEAKER_02: Be that as it may, this is still an incredible slap in the face to Minnesota for choosing Iowa to build the steel plant while mining the ore here and having to deal with the transportation of that ore and the materials necessary to conduct the mining operation.
• 1:53:53
  SPEAKER_02: Again, the company is going to mine the ore in Minnesota and then ship it to Iowa for steelmaking.
• 1:54:00
  SPEAKER_02: If you're building a steel a steel mill that depends on Minnesota iron ore, why not just build the mill next to the mine?
• 1:54:07
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what most people are arguing right now.
• 1:54:10
  SPEAKER_02: And as I just mentioned, it's because Iowa gave incentives.
• 1:54:13
  SPEAKER_02: Did we even give any incentives?
• 1:54:16
  SPEAKER_02: It makes it very curious, again, why Governor Dimwalls didn't bother to make any commentary about this.
• 1:54:25
  SPEAKER_02: You had some of those on the right that did.
• 1:54:27
  SPEAKER_02: Representative Spencer Igo called the Iowa decision a gut punch, arguing that Minnesota shouldn't watch billions in investment and thousands of jobs leave the state.
• 1:54:37
  SPEAKER_02: Representative Pete Stauber went considerably further, blaming Minnesota state leadership for losing the project, contrasting Minnesota's policies with Iowa's business environment.
• 1:54:49
  SPEAKER_02: So at the end of the day, what happens?
• 1:54:51
  SPEAKER_02: Minnesota has all the ore, but Iowa gets all the manufacturing jobs.
• 1:54:56
  SPEAKER_02: Certainly would have been beneficial here in Minnesota.
• 1:55:00
  SPEAKER_02: You know, and when you look at the wrong track Minnesota list and how we're below average economically, you can point directly to this.
• 1:55:09
  SPEAKER_02: This would have gone a long way to go and and help.
• 1:55:14
  SPEAKER_17: I don't know.
• 1:55:14
  SPEAKER_17: The uh steel mill in Iowa.
• 1:55:17
  SPEAKER_17: We say it the same way, I say steel mill.
• 1:55:19
  SPEAKER_17: Um sounds like a case of FAFO classic.
• 1:55:24
  SPEAKER_17: No business leader would choose to build a billion dollar home in a state where any other day you could have protesters at your front gate and all of a sudden the populace turns against you.
• 1:55:35
  SPEAKER_17: I would be what they're saying.
• 1:55:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you know, but strong leadership would have countered that.
• 1:55:40
  SPEAKER_02: Strong leadership defending the mill and the construction of the mill, good leadership would stand up and ignore any protestations from individuals.
• 1:55:52
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of people are lying, are saying a lot of experts within the transportation industry are saying that the location for Iowa makes no sense, which again further reinforces the idea of the incentives that Iowa offered over Minnesota.
• 1:56:05
  SPEAKER_02: They question the economics of shipping millions of tons of Minnesota ore to Iowa rather than, again, putting the mill near the Great Lakes.
• 1:56:14
  SPEAKER_02: And when you look at the transportation costs, you've got Lake Freighter, and then you have Mississippi Barge becomes more expensive, rail becomes even more expensive, and then trucking is even more expensive than that.
• 1:56:31
  SPEAKER_02: It would have been exponentially cheaper for Misabi Metallics to go and build the steel mill here in Minnesota.
• 1:56:39
  SPEAKER_02: But again, doing the cost analysis, the incentives from Iowa were certainly a lot stronger.
• 1:56:45
  SPEAKER_19: There is a piece of property over in St.
• 1:56:47
  SPEAKER_19: Paul that was in the electric art furnace steel mill right off the river with plenty of water access, electrical access on the CP Railroad that is mothballed.
• 1:57:00
  SPEAKER_19: Why in the world couldn't they use that spot to develop it for the steel mill?
• 1:57:06
  SPEAKER_19: I hope somebody from the state gets that question asked of them.
• 1:57:11
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's interesting too because there's a lot of individuals online that are commenting that and making the argument that Trump deliberately wanted the announcement in Iowa because Iowa is politically important to the 2026 elections.
• 1:57:23
  SPEAKER_02: And that might be the case.
• 1:57:25
  SPEAKER_02: This is a massive investment.
• 1:57:26
  SPEAKER_02: It's great for the country, obviously great for Iowa.
• 1:57:30
  SPEAKER_02: It makes sense that President Donald Trump would take advantage of it.
• 1:57:34
  SPEAKER_02: Be that as it may, Misabi Metallics, no, they on their own went and chose Iowa.
• 1:57:41
  SPEAKER_02: That wasn't a decision by President uh Donald Trump.
• 1:57:48
  SPEAKER_17: The uh location makes some sense.
• 1:57:50
  SPEAKER_17: I don't know how much steel they're gonna make, but if you look, a major user of U.S.
• 1:57:55
  SPEAKER_17: steel caterpillar is right across the river in Peoria in Illinois.
• 1:58:00
  SPEAKER_17: Same thing with John Deere.
• 1:58:02
  SPEAKER_17: John Deere's in Illinois in Iowa.
• 1:58:04
  SPEAKER_17: I think Casey Holland is all over the place too.
• 1:58:07
  SPEAKER_02: Now here's the portion of it that has not gotten any attention, and the interesting piece of information that stuck out to me, and that is Minnesota is getting$2.5 to$3 billion in mine and pellet operation, while Iowa is getting the$15 billion in steelmaking operation.
• 1:58:30
  SPEAKER_02: But this has not been talked about by anybody locally.
• 1:58:36
  unknown: Right?
• 1:58:37
  SPEAKER_02: Misabi says the combined investment is$18 billion with the Minnesota and Iowa facilities forming one integrated American steel company.
• 1:58:45
  SPEAKER_02: The company estimates more than 8,000 permanent and construction jobs combined.
• 1:58:50
  SPEAKER_02: And some of those jobs will come here to Minnesota.
• 1:58:52
  SPEAKER_02: Again, we'll be getting between$2.5 and$3 billion in mining operation money because of the steel mill in Iowa.
• 1:59:00
  SPEAKER_02: That is nothing.
• 1:59:02
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:59:03
  SPEAKER_02: That's nothing to to to not discuss.
• 1:59:07
  SPEAKER_02: That's important.
• 1:59:08
  SPEAKER_02: But why hasn't any DFL leadership come up and said that?
• 1:59:12
  SPEAKER_02: Why did I why why did it take the goofy uh talk show host to go and present this information to you when I haven't seen this in any of the stories?
• 1:59:22
  SPEAKER_02: I might have missed it.
• 1:59:24
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's because it's incredibly telling.
• 1:59:27
  SPEAKER_02: I imagine the DFL leadership is embarrassed.
• 1:59:29
  SPEAKER_02: You could easily come out and say we're going to get almost three billion dollars in mining operation money here, which could benefit the people of Minnesota, including hundreds upon hundreds of jobs with the steel mill, and yet the DFL leadership has been absolutely silent on that fact because it's not enough to shake off the fact and to say faced that Minnesota lost out on a fantastic opportunity of$15 billion.
• 2:00:00
  SPEAKER_02: The silence coming from Governor Jim Walls and the DFL leadership speaks volumes.
• 2:00:29
  SPEAKER_02: We're running through the decision of why the Misabi Metallics chose Iowa over Minnesota.
• 2:00:37
  SPEAKER_02: Minnesota wasn't offering incentives that Misabi wanted.
• 2:00:59
  SPEAKER_02: And that's apparent in the information that I just provided to you that Minnesota will get between$2.5 and$3 billion in economic revenue from the building of the mill because the minerals will be mined in Minnesota, but then shipped to Iowa.
• 2:01:15
  SPEAKER_02: And yet you see no DFLers, Governor Dimwalls or others, taking a victory lap over the jobs that will be created, new jobs and almost$3 billion worth of investment, because that would have to go and highlight the fact that we lost out on the$15 billion steel mill.
• 2:01:34
  SPEAKER_02: Why are we willing to mine the resource here but not competitive uh enough to convince the company to process it here?
• 2:01:41
  SPEAKER_02: Which would have been the argument if they were concerned about the activists within the DFL, the electoral consequences of Amy Klobishar having to address this issue, which may go and tick off a bunch of lobbying groups that give money to DFL campaigns.
• 2:02:05
  SPEAKER_02: The argument is right there.
• 2:02:07
  SPEAKER_02: Well, we're mining the ore here.
• 2:02:09
  SPEAKER_02: They should also go and process it here.
• 2:02:13
  SPEAKER_02: So we're already doing the mining.
• 2:02:15
  SPEAKER_02: Nope.
• 2:02:16
  SPEAKER_02: One can easily assume that that was simply a bridge too far for the DFL, and they decided just to remain silent because they all look like massive failures, and they failed the people of Minnesota in basically allowing$15 billion to go bye-bye on top of the boy.
• 2:02:36
  SPEAKER_02: That would have gone a long way to taking care of the fraud of the$9 to$10 billion that we dealt with.
• 2:02:40
  SPEAKER_02: Almost could have made it a wash.
• 2:02:42
  SPEAKER_02: They could have used it as an argument for crying out loud.
• 2:02:45
  SPEAKER_02: I know we had all the fraud guys, it was$9 billion, but we're going to get$15 billion of investment from this uh mining company.
• 2:02:52
  SPEAKER_02: And that'll certainly go a long way to turning this economy back around.
• 2:02:56
  SPEAKER_02: Nope.
• 2:02:58
  SPEAKER_02: Too bad, so sad, people in uh Minnesota.
• 2:03:02
  SPEAKER_02: All right, let's get back to some of your thoughts from the blaster line this morning.
• 2:03:05
  SPEAKER_25: Good morning again, John.
• 2:03:07
  SPEAKER_25: Uh with with respect to the to the mines uh and and manufacturing in Iowa.
• 2:03:13
  SPEAKER_25: Your your statement around the DFL might be embarrassed.
• 2:03:17
  SPEAKER_25: I don't necessarily know that they are, because to be embarrassed it means you have to care at least somewhat.
• 2:03:22
  SPEAKER_25: I don't believe Tim Wall cares more than just an absentee governor.
• 2:03:27
  SPEAKER_25: He I believe he hates the state right now.
• 2:03:29
  SPEAKER_25: I think he feels he's betrayed, and I don't think he would consider doing anything that would be good for the state right now.
• 2:03:36
  SPEAKER_25: Unless it was so obvious that that he has no choice.
• 2:03:42
  SPEAKER_25: I don't think half the DFL out there really cares.
• 2:03:45
  SPEAKER_25: They want power, and if you have a lot of people earning a good wage, they don't need the government as much as those that that aren't earning that wage, that need those updates.
• 2:03:54
  SPEAKER_25: So I believe the DFL thinks it's their best interest to keep the community down and dependent.
• 2:04:01
  SPEAKER_25: Sorry.
• 2:04:03
  SPEAKER_25: Don't mean to be a pessimist.
• 2:04:04
  SPEAKER_25: No, it's just the way it appears to be.
• 2:04:06
  SPEAKER_02: No, man, be a pessimist.
• 2:04:07
  SPEAKER_02: No, absolutely.
• 2:04:09
  SPEAKER_02: I think there's some uh there's some value in your commentary, and I appreciate the comments.
• 2:04:12
  SPEAKER_02: 651-964-0294.
• 2:04:16
  SPEAKER_25: You're you're right that they probably don't want to talk about it because they're embarrassed that most of the investments are for Iowa.
• 2:04:22
  SPEAKER_25: But you have to remember that they also probably don't want to talk about it because a lot of their base doesn't like mining, you know.
• 2:04:29
  SPEAKER_25: Yeah.
• 2:04:29
  SPEAKER_25: The Democrats used to be all about the blue collar, but now they're all about the tech roads.
• 2:04:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's that's an interesting point as well.
• 2:04:36
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 2:04:37
  SPEAKER_25: I want all the people that both Democrats that live in the Iron Range to take a good long hard look in the mirror.
• 2:04:44
  SPEAKER_25: I am positive.
• 2:04:45
  SPEAKER_25: I don't know the details, but I am positive that the Democrat, the left, walls, everyone put a roadblock with regulations, etc., to keep the steel mill out of Minnesota.
• 2:04:58
  SPEAKER_25: But I told you the ballot box, people of the Iron Range, just think of what a boon that could have been to your economy and to your towns up there that have been struggling for decades since I was a kid.
• 2:05:12
  SPEAKER_25: You get what you vote for, and we vote wrong at this state.
• 2:05:17
  SPEAKER_02: And let let me let me add that this crosses, this is not a this shouldn't be a Republican-Democrat situation.
• 2:05:24
  SPEAKER_02: If you're in that region, regardless of who you support, because there's a lot of crossover there, this impacts everybody.
• 2:05:31
  SPEAKER_02: This is a loss for the entire state of Minnesota, regardless of Democrat or Republican.
• 2:05:37
  SPEAKER_02: I hope that people of every single party and political assuasion would be on board with understanding how important this could have been for the economy here in uh Minnesota.
• 2:05:50
  SPEAKER_06: Hey, good morning, John.
• 2:05:51
  SPEAKER_06: With regards to the mining not happening in Minnesota, where the mining happened.
• 2:05:55
  SPEAKER_02: Uh unfortunately, their comment got uh got uh cut off.
• 2:05:59
  SPEAKER_02: Let's get to a few of uh your texts that have uh rolled in.
• 2:06:02
  SPEAKER_02: Somebody wrote in, uh, ruining the economy is part of the communist playbook.
• 2:06:06
  SPEAKER_02: They have to destroy the economy to turn people against the government.
• 2:06:10
  SPEAKER_02: Uh they can push that government out and install themselves.
• 2:06:13
  SPEAKER_02: Who took a dark turn.
• 2:06:15
  SPEAKER_02: All right, let's go here.
• 2:06:16
  SPEAKER_02: I grabbed this uh Becca Thompson, uh former uh Minneapolis uh park board member, candidate for the Minneapolis uh City Council, now fights to defend the city that she loves.
• 2:06:28
  SPEAKER_02: Uh on her Becca Thompson show, she posted uh this up on social media talking about the steel mill.
• 2:06:35
  SPEAKER_02: I wanted to share with you some of Becca's uh thoughts on the issue.
• 2:06:39
  SPEAKER_33: Okay, hi, it's Becca.
• 2:06:41
  SPEAKER_33: Let's talk about this announcement today that there's going to be building a steel mill in southern Iowa by a Minnesota company when the iron ore is in northern Minnesota.
• 2:06:54
  SPEAKER_33: Let's talk about this.
• 2:06:55
  SPEAKER_03: Once completed, Wasabi Metallics new steel plant will produce 10 million tons of steel per year using iron ore from the company's Minnesota and mine.
• 2:07:05
  SPEAKER_03: And Minnesota has, I will tell you, they maybe have a lousy governor, but they have great iron ore.
• 2:07:11
  SPEAKER_33: The largest steel mill ever in the country is going to be built in Iowa.
• 2:07:18
  SPEAKER_33: Why did Minnesota so look like let's just let's suss this out, okay?
• 2:07:23
  SPEAKER_33: Because I am in what is called commonly the arrowhead all the time.
• 2:07:30
  SPEAKER_33: Okay?
• 2:07:32
  SPEAKER_33: Shout out Silver Bay.
• 2:07:35
  SPEAKER_33: Um, love Silver Bay.
• 2:07:39
  SPEAKER_33: Mining town.
• 2:07:40
  SPEAKER_33: I have many times gone up to Silver Bay and talked with people there about what it is like on the North Shore in terms of economics, in terms of housing, in terms of all the things that people talk about down here, right?
• 2:07:59
  SPEAKER_33: Things are not easy all over the place for massive big union jobs.
• 2:08:05
  SPEAKER_33: Opening the mine up again is a big deal.
• 2:08:08
  SPEAKER_33: You know what would have been even a bigger deal?
• 2:08:11
  SPEAKER_33: Having the steel mill there as well in northern Minnesota.
• 2:08:15
  SPEAKER_33: Let's just logistically suss this out, okay?
• 2:08:19
  SPEAKER_33: You know how all of us we live somewhere, unless you're an entrepreneur who can make all your money living from your home office, right?
• 2:08:26
  SPEAKER_33: You live somewhere and then you commute to work.
• 2:08:29
  SPEAKER_33: And then you commute home.
• 2:08:31
  SPEAKER_33: And we all kind of have a radius for what that looks like, right?
• 2:08:35
  SPEAKER_33: Even if you do remote work, you still have a headquarters, right?
• 2:08:40
  SPEAKER_33: We all understand that.
• 2:08:42
  SPEAKER_33: Now let's add in the idea of like moving, okay?
• 2:08:46
  SPEAKER_33: You've got like a moving van, or you've got to move things to your job, or you're just moving, moving.
• 2:08:51
  SPEAKER_33: It's a hassle, right?
• 2:08:53
  SPEAKER_33: You gotta load up the truck or your car or whatever, and you gotta drive it over somewhere, right?
• 2:08:59
  SPEAKER_33: Even people who don't own cars typically have a moving truck when they move their stuff.
• 2:09:06
  SPEAKER_33: Yeah?
• 2:09:08
  SPEAKER_33: So the iron ore is going to be mined where the iron ore exists in northern Minnesota, the largest iron deposit in the world.
• 2:09:22
  SPEAKER_33: But then we're gonna haul it all on to big, huge, massive trucks.
• 2:09:27
  SPEAKER_33: Yep.
• 2:09:27
  SPEAKER_33: And ding-ding-ging-ding-ing-ga-ing-ding-ing-ga-ing-ding-ding-ding.
• 2:09:30
  SPEAKER_33: Drive it down to Iowa where it will be processed.
• 2:09:37
  SPEAKER_33: Well, where will the steel go after that?
• 2:09:40
  SPEAKER_33: You know the infrastructure of the harbor in Duluth?
• 2:09:47
  SPEAKER_33: Do you know that connects us to the world?
• 2:09:52
  SPEAKER_33: Through the Great Lakes and then the Erie Canal?
• 2:09:57
  SPEAKER_33: Yes.
• 2:09:59
  SPEAKER_33: And then the Hudson River, Hudson Bay.
• 2:10:02
  SPEAKER_33: That was carved out 200 years ago.
• 2:10:06
  SPEAKER_02: Let me stop it here.
• 2:10:07
  SPEAKER_02: Because remember, as I broke down earlier, when it comes to those shipping costs, it is costlier for Misabi Steel Steel.
• 2:10:18
  SPEAKER_02: I had a comment that rolled in.
• 2:10:20
  SPEAKER_02: Why is it so hard to say a steel mill?
• 2:10:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's difficult, it doesn't roll off the tongue.
• 2:10:25
  SPEAKER_02: It is costlier to have to go and ship the ore and the supplies necessary back and forth, but it speaks to the incentives that Iowa gave the company over Minnesota.
• 2:10:36
  SPEAKER_07: With all of the experience of the mining industry in the state of Minnesota, we have not been able to get a copper mine up for 25 years by the boundary by the near-the-boundary waters.
• 2:10:48
  SPEAKER_07: Um, why would Masabi uh metals waste its time?
• 2:10:53
  SPEAKER_07: They know if they get a steel steel mill approved by the federal government, Minnesota environmental groups will sue and tie this uh this steel factory up in course for decades.
• 2:11:07
  SPEAKER_07: So why do it here?
• 2:11:09
  SPEAKER_07: Do it down in Iowa where they're more friendly to people that want to make a living.
• 2:11:14
  SPEAKER_07: Anyway, just my thoughts.
• 2:11:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's the uh it's the silence from the Minnesota leadership.
• 2:11:20
  SPEAKER_02: Uh the uh comments coming from members of Congress and uh those part those individuals in the legislature on the right aside, the silence from anybody on the on the left and the DFL over this, despite the fact that we are gonna receive billions of dollars in economic revenue and hundreds of jobs will be created because uh of the operation in the$15 billion plant.
• 2:11:42
  SPEAKER_02: The silence speaks absolute volumes.
• 2:11:46
  SPEAKER_02: Volumes into how little.
• 2:11:48
  SPEAKER_02: And I think I'm gonna change my my my commentary on this based off of one of the comments that rolled into the blaster line at six five one nine six four zero two nine four.
• 2:11:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um the silence speaks.
• 2:12:00
  SPEAKER_02: Volumes over how little interest they had in Misabi creating this steel mill here.
• 2:12:08
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 2:12:08
  SPEAKER_02: You're right.
• 2:12:09
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think it was a matter of them not caring.
• 2:12:11
  SPEAKER_02: I just I don't think that they cared to have it here.
• 2:12:13
  SPEAKER_02: It just wasn't, it didn't matter to them.
• 2:12:15
  SPEAKER_02: They'd rather see the state not reap the economic benefit.
• 2:12:20
  SPEAKER_02: There was some electoral calculus that went into this.
• 2:12:23
  SPEAKER_02: I can almost guarantee it.
• 2:12:24
  SPEAKER_02: All right, let's turn our attention to fraud.
• 2:12:26
  SPEAKER_02: You've probably seen the headlines.
• 2:12:28
  SPEAKER_02: Minnesota A.G.
• 2:12:29
  SPEAKER_02: Keith Ellison charges nine providers with Medicaid fraud.
• 2:12:32
  SPEAKER_02: The charges include felony theft, identity theft, financial exploitation, criminal neglect, and financial transaction card fraud.
• 2:12:41
  SPEAKER_02: There's an important issue.
• 2:12:43
  SPEAKER_02: Actually, there's a couple of different important issues, though.
• 2:12:46
  SPEAKER_02: One of them is the timing question.
• 2:12:48
  SPEAKER_02: These investigations are not brand new.
• 2:12:51
  SPEAKER_02: Not by any stretch.
• 2:12:52
  SPEAKER_02: Channel 5 reported the allegations involving several of the providers charged in 2026, the ones that were just announced.
• 2:13:00
  SPEAKER_02: They date back years.
• 2:13:02
  SPEAKER_02: So it raises the question of why are the charges just arriving now rather than earlier?
• 2:13:10
  SPEAKER_02: That's your first question.
• 2:13:12
  SPEAKER_02: The second is why is it that it wasn't caught in the first place?
• 2:13:17
  SPEAKER_02: We're continuing to catch this on the back end.
• 2:13:21
  SPEAKER_02: So where in the Sam Heck has Attorney General Thief Ellison been on the front end, the front end of stopping the fraud?
• 2:13:27
  SPEAKER_02: Why is it we're only now still dealing with this on the back end?
• 2:13:31
  SPEAKER_02: And here, when it comes to the timing, it seems pretty clear that Ellison was waiting to the opportune moment to grab the headlines, especially when you consider that right now, he's not faring too well in the polls against Ron Schutz.
• 2:13:45
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• 2:13:53
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• 2:19:15
  SPEAKER_02: Minnesota lawmakers are requesting the release of the unredacted 14 state programs conducted by Optum.
• 2:19:22
  SPEAKER_02: The audit which identified the potential recoveries of over$1 billion was submitted to the Minnesota Department of Human Services in January.
• 2:19:31
  SPEAKER_02: Despite a state law allowing the report to be released to legislative committees, DHS has yet to provide the unredacted report, prompting lawmakers to review their requests.
• 2:19:43
  SPEAKER_02: Now, this story in its entirety is available up at alphanews.org.
• 2:19:48
  SPEAKER_02: I encourage you to go and check it out.
• 2:19:50
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm going to be basically piecing together a couple of different stories here.
• 2:19:54
  SPEAKER_02: Because I personally believe that a part of the reason why Attorney General Thief Ellison decided to move forward with these charges against these nine providers for Medicaid fraud is because he's trying to distract from this investigation of the lack of the optimum report being released, which was obviously redacted for a very specific reason.
• 2:20:15
  SPEAKER_02: The story is gaining national attention regarding our fraud, by the way.
• 2:20:19
  SPEAKER_02: I got a couple of pieces here.
• 2:20:20
  SPEAKER_02: There's one from Newsmax Minneapolis pro uh program faces fraud, waste, and abuse.
• 2:20:26
  SPEAKER_02: This was talking about specifically the violence interrupter program, which is obviously separate from what we're talking about via the Medicaid and taxpayer-funded services and transportation fraud, but it still falls under that fraud banner of what we're plagued with here in Minnesota.
• 2:20:43
  SPEAKER_02: Daily Wire has a piece talking about the fraud, detailing uh eight different scammers and a legal alien billing taxpayers, a billion each.
• 2:20:53
  SPEAKER_02: The story continues to gain national attention.
• 2:20:56
  SPEAKER_02: And now that you have lawmakers demanding to see the unredacted report to find out exactly what it is that it would appear Optum is trying to hide, suddenly Keith Ellison out of nowhere has charges against nine providers.
• 2:21:08
  SPEAKER_02: As I mentioned a moment ago, though, there may be perfectly legitimate reasons as to why the criminal investigation took years.
• 2:21:16
  SPEAKER_02: You've got, you know, interviewing of the recipients, you need to obtain documentation, you have to coordinate with agencies, you got to build a prosecutable case, you got to follow the financial records.
• 2:21:29
  SPEAKER_02: I get all that.
• 2:21:30
  SPEAKER_02: But the timing seems awfully convenient when we're a handful of weeks away.
• 2:21:36
  SPEAKER_02: Ellison is trailing in the polls to his opponent Ron Schutz.
• 2:21:41
  SPEAKER_02: Fraud continues to be the number one issue the Minnesotans are facing.
• 2:21:46
  SPEAKER_02: And that was, you know, that bear out or bore out.
• 2:21:50
  SPEAKER_02: Which way is it?
• 2:21:50
  SPEAKER_02: Bear out, bore out.
• 2:21:52
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's bear out.
• 2:21:53
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's bear out.
• 2:21:54
  SPEAKER_02: Either way.
• 2:21:55
  SPEAKER_02: That was shown in the Thinking Minnesota polling, of which we continue to give you exclusive uh information on tomorrow on the show.
• 2:22:03
  SPEAKER_02: We were supposed to today, but he was double booked.
• 2:22:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um Bill Walsh here from Center of the American Experiment will be joining us in studio as we dive into tomorrow at 8:30, the DFL's DSA problem.
• 2:22:15
  SPEAKER_02: So you have all these issues, and suddenly out of nowhere, you've got Keith Ellison charging nine providers with Medicaid fraud.
• 2:22:23
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, but there's more to this.
• 2:22:26
  SPEAKER_02: So uh let's see.
• 2:22:28
  SPEAKER_02: We'll get into the details.
• 2:22:30
  SPEAKER_02: Because the question that I hit have is how long can fraudulent Medicaid payments continue before the state systems flag them down?
• 2:22:37
  SPEAKER_02: It seems to me that we continue to handle the fraud on the back end instead of taking pay uh taking care of it on the front end, which impacts you the most.
• 2:22:46
  SPEAKER_02: Like, it's all fine and dandy that they're going and nailing these fraudsters now, but the odds of them clawing the money back is slim to nil.
• 2:22:53
  SPEAKER_02: Why don't we do more to stop it on the front end?
• 2:22:55
  SPEAKER_02: That's the question.
• 2:22:57
  SPEAKER_02: So out of the Miracle Miles Shopping Center in St.
• 2:23:00
  SPEAKER_02: Louis Park, therapist Peter uh Mealan allegedly began his fraud scheme while working as an independent contractor for Franklin Family Services.
• 2:23:08
  SPEAKER_02: According to the criminal complaint, Mealan received information from a mother about her seven kids, then billed Medicaid for nearly three years, claiming to provide psychotherapy services.
• 2:23:22
  SPEAKER_02: Just ripping, just ripping the taxpayers directly off.
• 2:23:30
  SPEAKER_02: The mom says they never once saw Mielan.
• 2:23:33
  SPEAKER_02: Patients listed in Meelan's claims claim uh told us time and again that Meelan did not provide the services he claimed to provide.
• 2:23:41
  SPEAKER_02: This is according to Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison.
• 2:23:43
  SPEAKER_02: Some said they never had a single session with Mielan.
• 2:23:46
  SPEAKER_02: Between the Twin Cities and his office in Duluth, Meelan is accused of submitting two uh 27,400 false claims for services he never provided.
• 2:24:01
  SPEAKER_02: Diving back into the story, the Minnesota Department of Human Services has said it issued a payment withholding from Mielan and his company on August 13th, 2024 and terminated the Medicaid enrollment in January of 26, but he's still listed as having an active therapist license in Oregon.
• 2:24:18
  SPEAKER_02: Why would why did it take until January of this year to terminate the Medicaid enrollment?
• 2:24:25
  SPEAKER_02: That's a question that I have.
• 2:24:26
  SPEAKER_02: How long were they just sitting on this?
• 2:24:28
  SPEAKER_02: How long?
• 2:24:29
  SPEAKER_02: At what point, potentially, just speculating here, pure speculation.
• 2:24:34
  SPEAKER_02: But was there a point where they're looking at charging these nine providers and there's a calendar in front of them and they go, well, you know, if we hold off on this and if we hold off on this, and if we don't terminate the Medicaid enrollment until January, then we can go announce the achar the charges in September, you know, ahead of heading into October in the last few weeks of the election, that could be really, really beneficial.
• 2:24:54
  SPEAKER_02: See how that works.
• 2:24:56
  SPEAKER_02: Mealan is one of nine people, as I mentioned, charged with defrauding the Medicaid program out of more than three million dollars, according to Ellison's office.
• 2:25:03
  SPEAKER_02: The charges were filed by its Medicaid fraud control unit, which has jurisdiction to investigate Minnesota providers suspected of committing Medicaid fraud.
• 2:25:12
  SPEAKER_02: So here's when things here's where things get get interesting, as I had uh mentioned uh before.
• 2:25:21
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, Ellison's office is making the case, right, that he is aggressively pursuing fraud.
• 2:25:30
  SPEAKER_02: His office has gone so far as to say that 350 Medicaid fraud convictions have fallen under his office since 2019 and more than 90 million in judgment judgments and recoveries.
• 2:25:40
  SPEAKER_02: What's not accounted for there is how much of this started at the federal level, and he's just taking credit for it.
• 2:25:45
  SPEAKER_02: Because that's absolutely happening, by the way.
• 2:25:50
  SPEAKER_02: But here's the argument.
• 2:25:52
  SPEAKER_02: If the state is repeatedly discovering millions of dollars in fraudulent medical billing, w why wasn't the fraud detected before the money was actually paid?
• 2:26:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's curious, isn't it?
• 2:26:07
  SPEAKER_02: The criticism has even more substance now when you consider the OLA report that I mentioned earlier that came out just recently assessing specifically the weakness in billing provider oversight and fraud detection.
• 2:26:24
  SPEAKER_02: That's the other piece of this puzzle.
• 2:26:26
  SPEAKER_02: And you begin to see why these charges were just announced.
• 2:26:30
  SPEAKER_02: That OLA report, the Office of Legislative Auditor, again was specific in pointing out the billing provider oversight and fraud detection was weak and has been weak and continues to be weak here in Minnesota.
• 2:26:48
  SPEAKER_02: So what does Ellison do?
• 2:26:49
  SPEAKER_02: Suddenly out of nowhere.
• 2:26:50
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, look, we charged these nine people.
• 2:26:52
  SPEAKER_02: Isn't that great?
• 2:26:52
  SPEAKER_02: Isn't that fantastic?
• 2:26:53
  SPEAKER_02: Look at all the work I'm doing, everybody.
• 2:26:55
  SPEAKER_02: I'm doing all this work, even as a little, little tiny man, too.
• 2:26:58
  SPEAKER_02: Not that that makes any difference, but just uh just saying.
• 2:27:03
  SPEAKER_16: Good morning, Bob from New York City.
• 2:27:05
  SPEAKER_16: If Amy Clovishar is going to fight and cut fraud, doesn't that mean she will reduce the state budget accordingly and give it back to the taxpayers?
• 2:27:15
  SPEAKER_16: I am not holding my breath.
• 2:27:17
  SPEAKER_16: Great show so far.
• 2:27:20
  SPEAKER_02: Catching fraud is not the same thing as preventing fraud.
• 2:27:23
  SPEAKER_02: That's the difference.
• 2:27:25
  SPEAKER_02: And we're not doing enough preventing a fraud.
• 2:27:29
  SPEAKER_02: It seems to me, at least my perception on this, is that Keith Ellison gets to have it both ways here.
• 2:27:34
  SPEAKER_02: He enabled the fraud, but didn't make a group of individuals that he considers to be constituents voters.
• 2:27:42
  SPEAKER_02: He's on record.
• 2:27:43
  SPEAKER_02: There's audio of him talking.
• 2:27:44
  SPEAKER_02: Two individuals who were later convicted of fraud, saying how he would be fighting on their behalf over the investigation.
• 2:27:52
  SPEAKER_02: How the investigation into their fraudulent activity was potentially inspired by racism.
• 2:27:57
  SPEAKER_02: So here he gets to have it both ways.
• 2:28:04
  SPEAKER_02: Getting further into the details of this, here's a couple more questions for you.
• 2:28:10
  SPEAKER_02: How does uh Medicaid verify that the service actually happened in the first place?
• 2:28:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's just a question that I have.
• 2:28:17
  SPEAKER_02: Why can someone commit 27,000 allegedly false claims and not get caught?
• 2:28:23
  SPEAKER_02: How does it go that far?
• 2:28:26
  SPEAKER_02: How is it nobody saw that?
• 2:28:30
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, how much money is being lost that nobody's discovered yet?
• 2:28:33
  SPEAKER_02: That's another crucial, quick, crucial question.
• 2:28:39
  SPEAKER_02: How many of attorney how the how many of the attorney general's 220 open cases, mind you, involve the same kinds of weaknesses to identify identified by the legislative auditor?
• 2:28:53
  SPEAKER_02: There are 220 open cases that that the Attorney General Keith Ellison has.
• 2:28:57
  SPEAKER_02: How many of those could be charged today?
• 2:29:01
  SPEAKER_02: Keep this in the back of your mind, and we can kind of run a run a run a game here.
• 2:29:06
  SPEAKER_02: How many more charges are going to take place over the course of the next week?
• 2:29:12
  SPEAKER_02: I'm excuse me, next month.
• 2:29:16
  SPEAKER_02: That's my prediction.
• 2:29:17
  SPEAKER_02: My prediction is this story of these charges is just going to be the first of many.
• 2:29:21
  SPEAKER_02: My guess is that Attorney General Keith Ellison's office is suddenly very busy putting forward recommendations for charges of which they will make announcements from now until Election Day.
• 2:29:34
  SPEAKER_02: All because now it's politically expedient for him to go and act like he's doing something about the fraud, wherein he hasn't been doing anything except for allowing it to take place, in my opinion, up until this point.
• 2:29:49
  SPEAKER_02: You know, the Office of Legislative Auditor, that report was all about prevention.
• 2:29:55
  SPEAKER_02: Identify the suspicious claims, flag them, withhold the payment, and investigate before the taxpayer money actually leaves the system.
• 2:30:06
  SPEAKER_02: You know, Ellison's just talking about the prosecution aspect of it, completely ignores the front end.
• 2:30:13
  SPEAKER_02: And why are we getting better at prosecuting Medicaid fraud after it happens?
• 2:30:17
  SPEAKER_02: And why aren't we getting any better at the other aspect of it?
• 2:30:20
  SPEAKER_02: And again, these are not questions that I have answers to.
• 2:30:23
  SPEAKER_02: But they are all the relevant questions relating to what has been happening and the fact that Ellison right now is taking a victory lap over this when the reality is no, this should be raising a lot of other questions regarding what we're not doing on the front end relating to fraud.
• 2:30:42
  SPEAKER_02: And again, let's get back to those open cases cases.
• 2:30:44
  SPEAKER_02: Ellison says his office and the MFCU currently has approximately 220 open cases and that referrals come from DHS, managed care organizations, law enforcement public tips, and the unit's own analysis of building anomalies.
• 2:31:00
  SPEAKER_02: And yet, five days after the legislative watchdog publicly warned that Minnesota's Medicaid system has vulnerabilities that could continue to allow fraud and improper payments, the Attorney General's office announces nine separate criminal Medicaid fraud cases.
• 2:31:17
  SPEAKER_02: The cases themselves appear to have originated from investigations and referrals that predated the OLA report, but the timing, again, raises the legit question about whether the report could affect how Minnesota approaches fraud prevention going forward.
• 2:31:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's all a big, massive smokescreen, in my opinion.
• 2:31:36
  SPEAKER_02: It's clever, make no mistake.
• 2:31:39
  SPEAKER_02: It may actually end up helping him.
• 2:31:41
  SPEAKER_02: It does answer a question that I've had over the course of the past few weeks.
• 2:31:45
  SPEAKER_02: And that question that I have had over the course of the past few weeks is what was the DFL going to do in light of the recent polling data that we've seen.
• 2:31:56
  SPEAKER_02: You have Republicans leading in a couple of races, you have the governor's race, you have the Senate race, Michelle Tefoya and Peggy Flanagan, all within striking distance are all tied up.
• 2:32:07
  SPEAKER_02: And I was sitting back wondering how is the DFL going to respond to this bad polling?
• 2:32:14
  SPEAKER_02: They can't start addressing the fraud.
• 2:32:16
  SPEAKER_02: They've made the election all about Trump.
• 2:32:18
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I got part of my answer now.
• 2:32:21
  SPEAKER_02: For in Keith Ellison's case, more than likely, he'll start prosecuting more individuals because he's been sitting on all these cases waiting for this very moment.
• 2:32:32
  SPEAKER_02: One more question.
• 2:32:33
  SPEAKER_02: We'll get to some of your thoughts via the blaster line this morning on this topic.
• 2:32:38
  SPEAKER_02: 651-964-0294.
• 2:32:42
  SPEAKER_02: Here's the other question that I have.
• 2:32:43
  SPEAKER_02: Again, pure speculation on all of this.
• 2:32:46
  SPEAKER_02: But let's just say for the sake of argument that I'm right.
• 2:32:48
  SPEAKER_02: And that Ellison has been waiting and is doing all these charges now to try to go and save face and show and shore up his flight his uh his failing polling numbers.
• 2:32:57
  SPEAKER_02: How much fraud has been committed because of this?
• 2:33:01
  SPEAKER_02: How many individuals in those open cases are still receiving Medicaid dollars for services they're billing for but not providing for?
• 2:33:11
  SPEAKER_02: Again, I don't have the uh I don't have the the answer.
• 2:33:15
  SPEAKER_02: I just want to pose the question.
• 2:33:17
  SPEAKER_02: How much more money is being wasted because they're waiting until now to go and do the right thing in prosecuting these individuals?
• 2:33:27
  SPEAKER_09: We all know that not a thing will happen until we get a Republican governor and craft in there.
• 2:33:40
  SPEAKER_09: Even then.
• 2:34:00
  SPEAKER_21: Honest, unpartial press in the state of Minnesota or in the country for that matter, so many of these problems would go away.
• 2:34:08
  SPEAKER_21: Because the problem is that nobody knows about it because they're not told and they don't listen to conservative media.
• 2:34:16
  SPEAKER_02: You know, at a minimum, you would have a more informed public.
• 2:34:19
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm with you.
• 2:34:21
  SPEAKER_02: Just have the relevant information.
• 2:34:23
  SPEAKER_02: I I do agree that you would probably see uh a massive shift in the way uh in in who ends up winning elections in the polls and individuals who care about these matters that would actually get elected into office.
• 2:34:38
  SPEAKER_02: But right now, the majority of people don't have the info.
• 2:34:40
  SPEAKER_02: And unfortunately, when it comes to the leftists, they've done a fantastic job uh of convincing their base of supporters that it doesn't matter what the opposition party is standing for or what they want to do, or or it doesn't matter if fraud was enabled.
• 2:34:59
  SPEAKER_02: They've been told over and over again that if anybody's associated with Trump, they're evil wrong, and they simply can't be supported.
• 2:35:06
  SPEAKER_02: Even if the alternative on their side of the political spectrum is an individual who allowed some of this to happen or voted on policy.
• 2:35:16
  SPEAKER_02: Listen, I played the clip earlier, and this is a good moment to play it again.
• 2:35:19
  SPEAKER_02: This this montage here, Grant Hostri in this competitive race for the Minnesota legislative Senate seat, talking out of both sides of his mouth.
• 2:35:28
  SPEAKER_02: How much is this going to have an impact?
• 2:35:30
  SPEAKER_02: Probably very little.
• 2:35:32
  SPEAKER_02: But here you have his commentary talking about defending data centers on the floor of the legislature, juxtaposed back and forth in the clips, and you can hear the difference in the clips with a recent campaign ad where he's pushing back on data centers.
• 2:35:47
  SPEAKER_02: But the problem is for the base of supporters, they're not gonna care.
• 2:35:51
  SPEAKER_02: I would I I hope I'm wrong on that.
• 2:35:53
  SPEAKER_02: This is the cynical part of me.
• 2:35:55
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think I am though.
• 2:35:56
  SPEAKER_31: One of these data centers is the size of US Bank Stadium, larger than the bonding bill that we will pass later today.
• 2:36:07
  SPEAKER_31: Think about that.
• 2:36:09
  SPEAKER_30: I'm Grant Hoscheld, and we thought we'd show you what can happen with data centers.
• 2:36:14
  SPEAKER_31: Think about the economic impact that these data centers bring to Minnesota.
• 2:36:20
  SPEAKER_31: First, they're really big.
• 2:36:22
  SPEAKER_31: One building can be 40 acres.
• 2:36:25
  SPEAKER_31: That's thousands of construction jobs, hundreds of long-term jobs for each one of these data centers.
• 2:36:33
  SPEAKER_31: They can be noisy.
• 2:36:35
  SPEAKER_31: That's not even mentioning the local community benefits that come from the local sales, the local uh sales tax and benefits that local communities get from these data centers.
• 2:36:47
  SPEAKER_29: Use up a lot of water and a lot of electricity.
• 2:36:51
  SPEAKER_31: Transformative when you consider the school districts and local city benefits that they will get from these data centers.
• 2:37:06
  SPEAKER_31: These data centers are being built across the country.
• 2:37:09
  SPEAKER_31: Just today, it was announced that Amazon is building$20 billion.
• 2:37:15
  SPEAKER_31: That's$20 billion with a B dollars in data centers in their state.
• 2:37:21
  SPEAKER_31: We should want that here in Minnesota.
• 2:37:24
  SPEAKER_31: Because I don't work for big tech.
• 2:37:26
  SPEAKER_31: I work for you.
• 2:37:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's an interesting uh juxtaposition between uh how he uh used to go and talk about the uh data centers and how he goes and talks about the data centers uh now.
• 2:37:42
  SPEAKER_02: Do people care?
• 2:37:44
  SPEAKER_02: Does hypocrisy matter to anybody anymore?
• 2:37:46
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's the question that uh that I have.
• 2:37:49
  SPEAKER_25: You're a hundred percent right that they allowed the fraud to go on.
• 2:37:52
  SPEAKER_25: Because if it would never have become an election issue, if it would have died away, they would have done nothing.
• 2:37:58
  SPEAKER_25: Now they just have to serve up a few sacrificial lambs for the cause.
• 2:38:03
  SPEAKER_25: Um, but the majority of the fraud will still go unpunished.
• 2:38:07
  SPEAKER_02: So and uh as an example of my point of the broken and brainwashed, they don't listen.
• 2:38:14
  SPEAKER_02: And they only hear what they want to hear.
• 2:38:17
  SPEAKER_02: Case in point, uh Mildred, uh, Eric and Brainerd has a comment.
• 2:38:21
  SPEAKER_02: And and this this could not be more fitting to the commentary that I just provided about individuals who simply don't pay attention, do not care, they only hear what they want to hear, and then they form their opinion based off of that selective listening that they do.
• 2:38:40
  SPEAKER_45: Okay, more than this hearing from Brainerd.
• 2:38:42
  SPEAKER_45: You're telling your own opinions, but not your own facts.
• 2:38:44
  SPEAKER_45: Where the hell are you getting this within striking distance uh polling from?
• 2:38:52
  SPEAKER_45: Center for the American Experiment.
• 2:38:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh That wasn't what I was talking about.
• 2:38:56
  SPEAKER_02: It wasn't the Center of the American Experiment polling.
• 2:38:59
  SPEAKER_02: Listen with better ears than that.
• 2:39:01
  SPEAKER_02: There was the KSTP USA poll, and there was the polling data firm from the week before.
• 2:39:06
  SPEAKER_02: Both of those polls showed Ron Schutz and Scott Jensen leading in their respective races.
• 2:39:13
  SPEAKER_02: You had Peggy Flanagan and Michelle Tefoya all but tied up in the margin of error.
• 2:39:19
  SPEAKER_02: Well, not even the margin of error.
• 2:39:21
  SPEAKER_02: We're talking tied up.
• 2:39:22
  SPEAKER_02: If anything, Peggy Flanagan was maybe ahead by one.
• 2:39:25
  SPEAKER_02: And then when you had the polling when it came to the governor's race, it showed that Lisa Damuth was in striking distance of Amy Klobuchar.
• 2:39:34
  SPEAKER_02: It has nothing to do with the thinking Minnesota poll.
• 2:39:36
  SPEAKER_02: It's two completely different things.
• 2:39:37
  SPEAKER_02: And I've differentiated that over and over on the show, but you don't listen.
• 2:39:43
  SPEAKER_45: Every poll that is credible is saying the exact opposite.
• 2:39:47
  SPEAKER_45: And I know you guys want to pretend and will into existence that this is a fraud election, which it's not, but Okay, and that point, it is a fraud election.
• 2:39:58
  SPEAKER_02: And all of the data points to that.
• 2:40:00
  SPEAKER_02: The Thinking Minnesota polling data points to that, the polling that uh Alpha News recently put out points to that, the KSTP polling points to that, they all point to fraud being the number one issue in the state.
• 2:40:12
  SPEAKER_02: Again, you only hear what you want to hear or you make up your own crap.
• 2:40:17
  SPEAKER_45: This is not at all reality.
• 2:40:19
  SPEAKER_45: Um and by the way, Trump made it about himself on the ballot this November, not anything else, um, despite you guys saying that he wasn't on the ballot.
• 2:40:29
  SPEAKER_02: And again, you're wrong.
• 2:40:32
  SPEAKER_02: Look at the timeline of how the DFL, specifically here in Minnesota, was framing their arguments and their ads over and over and over again.
• 2:40:43
  SPEAKER_02: If anything, that should be a complaint on President Donald Trump because he only went and began talking about him being on the ballot to voters after seeing that the Democrats were going and using him to try to encourage their voters to get out and vote.
• 2:41:02
  SPEAKER_02: So Trump was actually behind the eight ball.
• 2:41:05
  SPEAKER_02: So if you really listened or were intelligent in any way, shape, or form, you could have actually levied criticism against Trump saying he was late to the party by going and telling individuals, especially during and then when it started, was going back to the RNC midterm convention where he said, put me on the ballot.
• 2:41:23
  SPEAKER_02: That was one of the first moments when President Donald Trump made that comment to the biggest audience he could.
• 2:41:29
  SPEAKER_02: And that was only after Democrats had begun positioning themselves as this election being about Trump and aligning every single candidate in opposition to President Donald Trump.
• 2:41:45
  SPEAKER_45: And the news, maybe you should ask Melinda about it.
• 2:41:47
  SPEAKER_45: But yeah, that all was about making Trump on the ballot, and Tom Ever even said that that was the case.
• 2:41:53
  SPEAKER_45: So no, this is a Trump.
• 2:41:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I just explained that to you.
• 2:41:57
  SPEAKER_02: Those ads started long beforehand.
• 2:42:00
  SPEAKER_02: And if you were actually good at any commentary, if you weren't calling in from the basement of your mother's home using a voice disguiser, you would have known that.
• 2:42:22
  SPEAKER_45: Could have done a little more door knocking or something besides rattling off polls that are crap.
• 2:42:28
  SPEAKER_45: Have a great day.
• 2:42:33
  SPEAKER_02: Peek into the mind of an ignorant leftist.
• 2:42:36
  SPEAKER_02: That's all that it is.
• 2:42:38
  SPEAKER_02: And this must be a hell of an entertaining show.
• 2:42:42
  SPEAKER_02: If Mildred just simply cannot equip me.
• 2:42:59
  SPEAKER_20: Well, guess what, Eric?
• 2:43:02
  SPEAKER_20: You're probably wrong.
• 2:43:04
  SPEAKER_20: Hate to tell you, but you should try some different news sources.
• 2:43:08
  SPEAKER_02: You know, again, it would be one thing if the commentary that was being provided had any legitimacy to it at all.
• 2:43:16
  SPEAKER_02: It just doesn't.
• 2:43:19
  SPEAKER_22: Oh man, do I hope Ellison loses and the Republicans win several of these state races to shut this thing up and bring the name Eric.
• 2:43:34
  SPEAKER_22: Good Lord.
• 2:43:35
  SPEAKER_02: Ah, you know, speaking of the Lord says forgive them for they know not what they do.
• 2:43:40
  SPEAKER_02: Somebody wrote in, uh, John, there's an old saying that goes, do not argue with an idiot.
• 2:43:45
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 2:43:46
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm with you.
• 2:43:47
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, trust me, by the way, that that that absolutely rings true.
• 2:43:50
  SPEAKER_02: Eric uh mil Mildred Beatrice has been leaving comments throughout the entire show this morning.
• 2:43:55
  SPEAKER_02: I just decided to go and grab that one because it seems as if the more the the longer I wait before I play a comment from the foe of the show, the better the commentary is, meaning the more ludicrous it ends up being.
• 2:44:09
  SPEAKER_18: Hey, John, Barry and Andover here.
• 2:44:11
  SPEAKER_18: While I strive to live in a world one day where there's no Mildred, Beatrice, etc., goofball from Brainerd.
• 2:44:18
  SPEAKER_18: If the elections were to go our way and we're all praying they do, guess who will be the first one yelling election fraud, election engineering.
• 2:44:31
  SPEAKER_18: It's just it'll be ridiculous.
• 2:44:34
  SPEAKER_18: It'll be fun, but it'll be ridiculous.
• 2:44:38
  SPEAKER_02: Uh thank you for the uh thank you for the comment.
• 2:44:40
  SPEAKER_02: All right, let's get here.
• 2:44:42
  SPEAKER_26: Eric's always talking about the sources that the show has and where you're getting your content and refuting it, but he never brings up the sources that he has and who's conflicting information where he's getting that from.
• 2:44:55
  SPEAKER_26: So that'd be great.
• 2:44:56
  SPEAKER_26: Maybe Eric could start dropping some of his sources, letting us know who's telling him something basically completely opposite of what the show is saying, since he's so ramped up every day to listen.
• 2:45:07
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, I don't want the foe at the show to completely derail where I need to go.
• 2:45:10
  SPEAKER_02: I have some other important issues to uh to dive uh to dive into.
• 2:45:14
  SPEAKER_02: So let's go here.
• 2:45:15
  SPEAKER_02: Let's set the stage on some talk about Minneapolis.
• 2:45:17
  SPEAKER_02: You definitely want to hear this story, by the way, about what's happening regarding the autonomous vehicles.
• 2:45:22
  SPEAKER_02: I have an update on it.
• 2:45:23
  SPEAKER_12: You know, and then you can use the Waymo.
• 2:45:25
  SPEAKER_12: You don't know which way they may go or may not go.
• 2:45:28
  SPEAKER_12: Just get in, okay?
• 2:45:30
  SPEAKER_12: There's way more ways than the way that you got.
• 2:45:33
  SPEAKER_12: So let's go with those ways.
• 2:45:35
  SPEAKER_12: The end.
• 2:45:36
  SPEAKER_02: I cannot wait to have fun with this later.
• 2:45:39
  SPEAKER_02: Later on today.
• 2:45:41
  SPEAKER_12: Uh for the You know, and then you can use the Waymo.
• 2:45:47
  SPEAKER_12: You don't know which way they may go or may not go.
• 2:45:50
  SPEAKER_12: Just get in, okay?
• 2:45:52
  SPEAKER_12: There's way more ways than the way that you got.
• 2:45:55
  SPEAKER_12: So let's go with those ways.
• 2:45:57
  SPEAKER_12: The end.
• 2:45:58
  SPEAKER_02: By the way, so this is again, this is Minneapolis City Council member Pearl Warren pushing back on Waymo.
• 2:46:05
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you can use Waymo, but you don't know which way they may go or may not go.
• 2:46:10
  SPEAKER_02: Just get in.
• 2:46:11
  SPEAKER_02: There's way more ways than the way you got, so let's go with those ways, basically saying use the current transportation that we already have, except for the fact that through their lunacy of trying to put in a quasi-ban on autonomous vehicles, they exposed a dangerous dark side to the rideshare services of Uber and Lyft, and that is that people are being assaulted and raped by the hundreds by using those services.
• 2:46:40
  SPEAKER_02: Why?
• 2:46:41
  SPEAKER_02: Because of the individuals driving the cars.
• 2:46:45
  SPEAKER_02: Autonomous vehicles solve that problem because it's just you or the individual you're with in an autonomous vehicle.
• 2:46:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, you can argue about whether or not these should operate depending on what the temperatures are outside, depending on the amount of white stuff that has fallen in the gro on the ground in the winter and sometimes getting into the spring here in Minnesota.
• 2:47:05
  SPEAKER_02: Those are all valid arguments.
• 2:47:08
  SPEAKER_02: What their argument gets is ludicrous, and it is less safe for the individuals in Minneapolis.
• 2:47:16
  SPEAKER_02: But because they're protecting their own interests and a group of individuals that they believe they have to continue to be dependent upon to win elections so the communists can stay in power, they're putting forward this quasi-ban on all autonomous vehicles.
• 2:47:31
  SPEAKER_12: You know, and then you can use the Waymo.
• 2:47:34
  SPEAKER_12: You don't know which way they may go or may not go.
• 2:47:37
  SPEAKER_12: Just get in, okay?
• 2:47:38
  SPEAKER_12: There's way more ways than the way that you got.
• 2:47:42
  SPEAKER_12: So let's go with those ways.
• 2:47:44
  SPEAKER_12: The end.
• 2:47:45
  SPEAKER_04: That council member's speech was actually fun to listen to.
• 2:47:50
  SPEAKER_04: Who knew?
• 2:47:51
  SPEAKER_04: Poetry slams and politics.
• 2:47:54
  SPEAKER_04: It's funny.
• 2:47:56
  SPEAKER_12: You know, and then you can use the Waymo.
• 2:47:58
  SPEAKER_12: You don't know which way they may go or may not.
• 2:48:02
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 2:48:04
  SPEAKER_02: So we got some time left.
• 2:48:05
  SPEAKER_02: I got a couple of stories.
• 2:48:07
  SPEAKER_02: One story I didn't cover yesterday, horrific tragedy.
• 2:48:09
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 2:48:11
  SPEAKER_02: How it started.
• 2:48:13
  SPEAKER_02: Minneapolis considers 11 more traffic cameras after pilot shows sharp a decline in speeding.
• 2:48:19
  SPEAKER_02: Minneapolis is considering expanding its automated traffic enforcement program after the pilot program showed a significant reduction in speeding in initial camera locations.
• 2:48:28
  SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, of course.
• 2:48:31
  SPEAKER_02: Of course.
• 2:48:32
  SPEAKER_02: That's not the argument here.
• 2:48:34
  SPEAKER_02: There's the privacy argument, right?
• 2:48:36
  SPEAKER_02: Invasion of privacy.
• 2:48:38
  SPEAKER_02: This has gone through constitutional challenges.
• 2:48:40
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not surprised that there's a reduction in speed where these cameras get put up.
• 2:48:45
  SPEAKER_02: I've argued many times throughout my 30-year radio talk show host career that if you just took old police squad cars or in those areas where they have uh patrol bikes, if you just set one of those on the side of the road at a particular location where you want to slow traffic down, traffic would slow down just at the side of a police vehicle.
• 2:49:06
  SPEAKER_02: So this doesn't come as a shock at all.
• 2:49:08
  SPEAKER_02: The program, which began in October of 2025, uses cameras to issue warnings and citations for speeding violations with a focus on changing driver behavior rather than generating revenue.
• 2:49:19
  SPEAKER_02: The city is evaluating 11 additional locations for potential expansion and is also considering implemented implementing an auto, an automated red light enforcement.
• 2:49:29
  SPEAKER_02: So that's how it started.
• 2:49:31
  SPEAKER_02: Again, changing behavior, right, rather than revenue.
• 2:49:35
  SPEAKER_02: They're arguing about revenue.
• 2:49:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'll get to this in just a moment.
• 2:49:38
  SPEAKER_02: But how it's going.
• 2:49:39
  SPEAKER_02: Car involved in deadly Minneapolis crash with semi was carrying teens.
• 2:49:44
  SPEAKER_02: Seven teenagers were involved in a fatal crash in Minneapolis this week when a stolen Hyundai Elantra that they were st uh when they were struck by a semi-truck and became lodged under its trailer.
• 2:49:56
  SPEAKER_02: Two 15-year-old boys and a 19-year-old woman were killed.
• 2:50:00
  SPEAKER_02: Four others sustained serious injury uh injuries.
• 2:50:04
  SPEAKER_02: The semi-truck driver was unharmed and is cooperating with the investigation.
• 2:50:08
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, guess what?
• 2:50:10
  SPEAKER_02: It turns out that the Hyundai Elantra was traveling at a high speed when it collided with the semi around 4 a.m.
• 2:50:18
  SPEAKER_02: Resulting in the three people dying, four teenagers seriously injured.
• 2:50:22
  SPEAKER_02: How are the speed cameras going for you?
• 2:50:25
  SPEAKER_02: Is it changing behavior?
• 2:50:27
  SPEAKER_02: It means nothing if you don't have a robust police department.
• 2:50:30
  SPEAKER_02: It means nothing if you continue to go and throw millions of dollars at former gangbangers wearing printed t-shirts that say violence interrupter on them.
• 2:50:41
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, go ahead.
• 2:50:42
  SPEAKER_02: Add all the speed cameras, red light cameras you want.
• 2:50:46
  SPEAKER_02: And watch as the deaths continue to stack up.
• 2:50:49
  SPEAKER_02: Because there's communists that are running the show in the city of Minneapolis.
• 2:50:53
  SPEAKER_02: Uh there was a debate earlier this week.
• 2:50:55
  SPEAKER_02: The interim police chief says that he had inherited a budget mess, and now they're trying to go and get the necessary funding so they can continue to protect and serve the people of Minneapolis.
• 2:51:09
  SPEAKER_02: Police leaders are requesting an additional two or$20 million with$13 million allocated for overtime.
• 2:51:14
  SPEAKER_02: This is to help the department end the 2027 under budget.
• 2:51:19
  SPEAKER_02: The department acknowledges past overuse of overtime and has implemented new controls, including executive oversight and a tracking dashboard to manage the overtime spending effectively.
• 2:51:31
  SPEAKER_02: Despite these measures, the city council members remain skeptical about the apartment's ability to stay within budget.
• 2:51:38
  SPEAKER_02: Lives are being lost, and these clowns are arguing about the budget at this point in time.
• 2:51:42
  SPEAKER_02: To the police officers who, you know, are trained to actually go and deal with crime.
• 2:51:51
  SPEAKER_02: In the meantime, the Minneapolis City Council signals that it will require driverless vehicles to have drivers.
• 2:52:00
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, there is there is stupid, and then there's stupid, and then there's this stupid.
• 2:52:07
  SPEAKER_02: I'm looking at a version of the story from Dina Winter in the Minnesota Star Tribune today.
• 2:52:11
  SPEAKER_02: Minneapolis signaled Tuesday that it will require autonomous vehicles to have someone in the driver's seat.
• 2:52:17
  SPEAKER_02: A first for a U.S.
• 2:52:19
  SPEAKER_02: city.
• 2:52:19
  SPEAKER_02: We do so many firsts here in Minneapolis, and it's never a good thing.
• 2:52:25
  SPEAKER_02: There's a reason why other places don't do this.
• 2:52:29
  SPEAKER_02: Because you know other places aren't as stupid.
• 2:52:32
  SPEAKER_12: Just get in, okay?
• 2:52:33
  SPEAKER_12: There's way more ways than the way that you got.
• 2:52:37
  SPEAKER_12: So let's go with those ways.
• 2:52:39
  SPEAKER_12: The end.
• 2:52:41
  SPEAKER_02: So what are they actually proposing with this?
• 2:52:44
  SPEAKER_02: The ordinance authored by council members Robin Wandsley, DSA communist, Jamal Osman, DSA communist, RN Chowdhury, DSA Communist, and Jason Chavez, LGBTQ, DSA communist, would require commercial autonomous vehicles uh companies to obtain a Minnesota license.
• 2:53:08
  SPEAKER_02: Every commercial robotaxi would have a human safety monitor sitting in the driver's seat.
• 2:53:16
  SPEAKER_12: You know, and then you can use the Waymo.
• 2:53:18
  SPEAKER_12: You don't know which way they may go or may not go.
• 2:53:21
  SPEAKER_12: Just get in, okay?
• 2:53:23
  SPEAKER_12: There's way more ways than the way that you got.
• 2:53:26
  SPEAKER_12: So let's go with those ways.
• 2:53:28
  SPEAKER_12: The end.
• 2:53:29
  SPEAKER_02: So that person who would serve as essentially a babysitter.
• 2:53:34
  SPEAKER_02: That's right, the city of Minneapolis is going to be hiring babysitters.
• 2:53:38
  SPEAKER_02: Or I should say, these autonomous vehicle companies are going to have to hire babysitters if they want to operate in the city of Minneapolis.
• 2:53:46
  SPEAKER_02: You'd have to have a valid Minnesota driver's license, so you could be an illegal alien because you can get driver's license if you're illegal.
• 2:53:52
  SPEAKER_02: Have immediate access to steering, braking, and acceleration controls.
• 2:53:55
  SPEAKER_02: So that pretty much rules out many of these autonomous vehicle companies because they're not even building those controls in the vehicles anymore.
• 2:54:02
  SPEAKER_02: And it probably is a wise thing to do in Minneapolis, because if they had those controls, the autonomous vehicles would probably just be stolen and more people would end up dying.
• 2:54:11
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot.
• 2:54:12
  SPEAKER_02: We have those red light cameras and speed cameras.
• 2:54:14
  SPEAKER_02: That would slow everybody down, right?
• 2:54:17
  SPEAKER_02: Paid at least an applicable minimum wage.
• 2:54:20
  SPEAKER_02: What the hell does that mean?
• 2:54:22
  SPEAKER_02: An applicable minimum wage?
• 2:54:24
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know about you, but my applicable minimum wage is$100 an hour.
• 2:54:28
  SPEAKER_02: Why am I going there?
• 2:54:29
  SPEAKER_02: It's$200, it's$300 an hour.
• 2:54:34
  SPEAKER_02: Be physically inside the vehicle rather than monitoring remotely.
• 2:54:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like that I could give you, but I know they're talking about making this argument that they need to take over controls of the vehicles.
• 2:54:43
  SPEAKER_02: Give me a break.
• 2:54:46
  SPEAKER_02: The ordinance is scheduled for a potential city council vote on October 1st.
• 2:54:50
  SPEAKER_02: And if enacted, the requirements would take place on October of 2027.
• 2:54:56
  SPEAKER_02: Somebody had a written online pushing back on this.
• 2:55:00
  SPEAKER_02: Compared it to elevator operators resisting automated elevators.
• 2:55:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm sure that was the thing back in the back in the day.
• 2:55:06
  SPEAKER_02: Because there used to be individuals, Devon, I don't know if you realize this or not.
• 2:55:09
  SPEAKER_02: There used to be individuals that were hired to go and operate elevators.
• 2:55:13
  SPEAKER_02: They would just stand in there.
• 2:55:14
  SPEAKER_02: Which pair?
• 2:55:14
  SPEAKER_02: Where would you like to go?
• 2:55:15
  SPEAKER_02: Here.
• 2:55:15
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I'll push the button.
• 2:55:16
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 2:55:17
  SPEAKER_02: I like pushing the button.
• 2:55:18
  SPEAKER_12: You know, and then you can use the Waymo.
• 2:55:20
  SPEAKER_12: You don't know which way they may go or may not go.
• 2:55:23
  SPEAKER_12: Just get in, okay?
• 2:55:25
  SPEAKER_12: There's way more ways than the way that you got.
• 2:55:28
  SPEAKER_12: So let's go with those ways.
• 2:55:30
  SPEAKER_12: The end.
• 2:55:31
  SPEAKER_02: Now I'm not familiar enough with autonomous vehicles to voice an opinion of whether or not uh they're safe or not.
• 2:55:38
  SPEAKER_02: I will say that there's a lot of arguments that are saying that autonomous vehicles are actually safer as long as the uh the conditions outside are are optimal, are actually safer than what you see with Lyft and Uber.
• 2:55:50
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm not just talking about the assaults and the rapes taking place with the rideshare services where they actually have drivers.
• 2:55:55
  SPEAKER_02: No, I'm talking about the fact that these autonomous vehicles, in order to even operate in the United States, United States have so many sensors on all of them that they end up being more proactive to the environment around them than any driver could ever be.
• 2:56:10
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Monty's not an autonomous vehicle by any stretch of the imagination, but for crying out loud, when Kyle figured out how to work the controls, the automated controls on the car, I realized that we can basically travel across the country on our America 250 2026 road trip with barely having to do anything because Monty would stay in the lane, stay at a particular speed, stay behind a vehicle without tailgating uh them and give me all the indicators to make sure that I don't go and hit anybody.
• 2:56:36
  SPEAKER_02: Autonomous vehicles go even further than that.
• 2:56:40
  SPEAKER_02: You know, part of the issue that they're faced with with the autonomous vehicles, and Minnesota currently doesn't have a comprehensive statewide autonomous vehicle law, which opens up the door for these lunatic communists on the Minneapolis City Council to move forward with these bans, which are completely arbitrary.
• 2:56:55
  SPEAKER_02: They make no sense.
• 2:56:57
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said, they're not arguing about the things that have merit.
• 2:57:01
  SPEAKER_02: When do the vehicles operate, what's the weather outside, things like this.
• 2:57:05
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 2:57:06
  SPEAKER_02: They went right to the one thing that they knew would put in a quasi-ban on these vehicles, and that is requiring another person to be in there.
• 2:57:15
  SPEAKER_02: And at what cost?
• 2:57:16
  SPEAKER_02: They're sitting there dithering with dollars when it comes to budgeting for law enforcement for crying out loud.
• 2:57:27
  SPEAKER_02: And yet here they want individuals to be paid to go and sit in these vehicles, the applicable minimum wage.
• 2:57:36
  SPEAKER_02: Legislation was considered on autonomous vehicles in 2026, but it wasn't enacted in a statewide regulatory framework.
• 2:57:44
  SPEAKER_02: Scott Dibble, who's working on statewide legislation, has argued that the existing Minnesota law effectively assumes that the person operating the vehicle is a licensed human being.
• 2:57:53
  SPEAKER_02: Others interpret the absence of an explicit autonomous vehicle prohibition differently.
• 2:57:58
  SPEAKER_02: So Minneapolis is essentially trying to establish its own rules before the state has gone and settled the issue.
• 2:58:04
  SPEAKER_02: Now, Minneapolis man, baby, mayor or mom jeans Jacob Fry's position, according to a spokesperson, is that he'll talk with the council but looks to the state to regulate autonomous vehicles.
• 2:58:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Bobby Newport again.
• 2:58:17
  SPEAKER_02: Broken clock is right twice a day.
• 2:58:19
  SPEAKER_02: He's he's accurate in that assessment.
• 2:58:21
  SPEAKER_02: The last people that should be making this decision, while I you usually agree with local control, in this case, these are a bunch of communists.
• 2:58:30
  SPEAKER_02: No, this should be decided at the state level.
• 2:58:32
  SPEAKER_02: Especially on an issue like this, because it should be applicable across the state, regardless of the locale.
• 2:58:39
  SPEAKER_02: We should have a uniform understanding of autonomous vehicles.
• 2:58:42
  SPEAKER_02: And just wait.
• 2:58:42
  SPEAKER_02: When the next legislative uh session starts next year, I guarantee you there's going to be a move, depending on the outcome of the election, to go and require a babysitter for all these autonomous vehicles, which will basically mean that autonomous vehicles will be banned from the state of Minnesota and they'll probably end up in Iowa traveling around and taking all of the thousands of jobs that have been made available because the Iowa steel plant decided to go and build it there rather than where the ore is actually being mined here in Minnesota.
• 2:59:14
  SPEAKER_02: The council members are saying that this is needed because autonomous vehicles are new and unregulated.
• 2:59:21
  SPEAKER_02: Waymo is saying you're creating regulation that makes autonomous vehicles economically impractical.
• 2:59:28
  SPEAKER_02: And the rideshare drivers, of course, are saying without the regulation, we'll lose our livelihoods.
• 2:59:32
  SPEAKER_02: Well, too bad, so sad.
• 2:59:34
  SPEAKER_02: And this goes back to a conversation that I had earlier in the show.
• 2:59:37
  SPEAKER_02: We shouldn't be stifling innovation simply because that may be safer.
• 2:59:43
  SPEAKER_02: Safer for the public on the streets, safer for the individuals that are operating in the rideshares, as we've demonstrated.
• 2:59:51
  SPEAKER_02: They opened up a can of worms with this issue because we discovered that when you look at the data of rideshare, individuals are being assaulted right on down to rape, so many people even being murdered in rideshare vehicles, removing the driver ends up making it safer for everybody else.
• 3:00:10
  SPEAKER_02: So just because individuals may be losing their jobs in certain areas and certain sectors because of emerging technology doesn't mean we need to go and ban that emerging technology and just go and reference the previous commentary that I did earlier in the show regarding artificial intelligence.
• 3:00:31
  SPEAKER_02: If the council's stated purpose is safety, then why is the ordinance explicitly framed around protecting Uber and Lyft jobs?
• 3:00:42
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 3:00:42
  SPEAKER_02: Because the sponsors of this legislation are openly citing both objectives here, but it's all focused on autonomous vehicles.
• 3:00:50
  SPEAKER_02: Why?
• 3:00:51
  SPEAKER_02: Because they are catering to this group that they believe they need to continue to keep in their back pocket when it comes to winning elections.
• 3:00:59
  SPEAKER_02: Because with ranked choice voting in the city of Minneapolis, it's easy to go and win an election if you're a leftist, as long as you appeal to the right individuals who are going to partake in your ridiculous way of electing officials.
• 3:01:13
  SPEAKER_12: You know, and then you can use the Waymo.
• 3:01:16
  SPEAKER_12: You don't know which way they may go or may not go.
• 3:01:19
  SPEAKER_12: Just get in, okay?
• 3:01:20
  SPEAKER_12: There's way more ways than the way that you got.
• 3:01:24
  SPEAKER_12: So let's go with those ways.
• 3:01:26
  SPEAKER_12: The end.
• 3:01:28
  SPEAKER_02: The end indeed.
• 3:01:29
  SPEAKER_02: That brings us to the end of today's show.
• 3:01:31
  SPEAKER_02: I can't believe it.
• 3:01:32
  SPEAKER_02: I looked at the clock.
• 3:01:33
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, oh my gosh, we're done.
• 3:01:36
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much for spending time with us this morning.
• 3:01:38
  SPEAKER_02: I hope you had as much fun as I did.
• 3:01:39
  SPEAKER_02: Friends and foes alike.
• 3:01:42
  SPEAKER_02: Hope you guys get smarter.
• 3:01:43
  SPEAKER_02: Open your minds a little bit for crying out loud.
• 3:01:46
  SPEAKER_02: My gosh.
• 3:01:47
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 3:01:47
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• 3:03:45
  SPEAKER_02: If you missed any portion today, Devin will have the podcast up shortly across all the major podcast platforms.
• 3:03:50
  SPEAKER_02: He's shaking his head.
• 3:03:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I would certainly hope so because I don't want to do it.
• 3:03:54
  SPEAKER_02: I got prep to do for tomorrow's show for crying out loud.
• 3:03:58
  SPEAKER_02: It'll also be available on the Mix LR app.
• 3:04:00
  SPEAKER_02: You can watch a replay of the show across Center of the American Experiments Facebook, YouTube pages, and Rumble as well.
• 3:04:07
  SPEAKER_02: Remember, tomorrow on the show, we're going to be getting into more of that exclusive polling data from the Thinking Minnesota poll and specifically how the DFL has a massive, massive DSA problem.
• 3:04:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's right there in the polling.
• 3:04:20
  SPEAKER_02: You're going to hear it first, right here on the John Justice Show, presented by American Experiment at 8:30 tomorrow.
• 3:04:26
  SPEAKER_02: I hope you have a fantastic middle of your week.
• 3:04:29
  SPEAKER_02: God bless to you.
• 3:04:31
  SPEAKER_02: And I'll talk to you guys tomorrow morning starting at uh 6 a.m.
• 3:04:35
  SPEAKER_02: And you know what?
• 3:04:35
  SPEAKER_02: Just one more time before we go today.
• 3:04:37
  SPEAKER_12: You know, and then you can use the Waymo.
• 3:04:39
  SPEAKER_12: You don't know which way they may go or may not go.
• 3:04:42
  SPEAKER_12: Just get in, okay?
• 3:04:44
  SPEAKER_12: There's way more ways than the way that you got.
• 3:04:47
  SPEAKER_12: So let's go with those ways.
• 3:04:49
  SPEAKER_12: The end.
• 3:04:50
  SPEAKER_02: And it was Rush Limbod that said having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have.
• 3:04:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was absolutely correct.
• 3:04:55
  SPEAKER_02: I'll talk to you guys tomorrow morning.
• 3:04:57
  SPEAKER_02: Bye.