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Husband Discovers His Wife Is A Mass Killer · The conspiracy

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  Speaker 1: Lorie Valoda Bell is a former beauty contestant.
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  Speaker 2: She closed her mind. She thinks she's a resurrected being
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  Speaker 2: in a god.
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  Speaker 1: Anybody you spoke to who knew Laurie back then said
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  Speaker 1: that she was like the mother.
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  Speaker 3: Of the year. So what makes her a danger to herself?
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  Speaker 4: And two others threatened they murder me.
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  Speaker 5: Jilly, we're gathering together as saints, as brothers and sisters
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  Speaker 5: and preparing for the second Coming of Christ.
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  Speaker 3: She threatened to murder you.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Six months later, Valo was shot and killed Lise.
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  Speaker 6: They found a man with gunshot wound who was later
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  Speaker 6: pronounced dead.
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  Speaker 7: The first death that kicked off this multi state mystery.
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  Speaker 8: Inside is Lorie Valo's husband dead on the living room floor.
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  Speaker 3: What happened today? How did they get to.
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  Speaker 9: You?
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  Speaker 4: Said, you're not Charles. I don't know who you are
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  Speaker 4: what you did with Charles. But I can murder you
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  Speaker 4: now with my powers.
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  Speaker 3: So how does she pose a threat to your children?
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  Speaker 10: Laurie?
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  Speaker 4: Where are your kids? They've been missing for four months.
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  Speaker 4: Do you have nothing to say now?
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  Speaker 1: Laurie da Bell appears to be somebody else. She has
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  Speaker 1: two missing children, JJ Vallo, Tylie, Ryan.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what she's going to do with them.
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  Speaker 4: She's going to flee with them.
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  Speaker 3: She's going to hurt him, all right, this house or
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  Speaker 3: the one with the flashing lights out there?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 11: Cor drolled on.
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  Speaker 7: Well here, Oh my god.
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  Speaker 12: It all started on January thirty first, twenty nineteen, when
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  Speaker 12: Charles Vallow was still alive and had just returned from
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  Speaker 12: a business trip to find he was locked out of
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  Speaker 12: his own house with no sign of his wife Laurie
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  Speaker 12: or his kids JJ and Tylee. His car had also
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  Speaker 12: gone missing, and a large sum of cash had been
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  Speaker 12: withdrawn from his bank account. So when an effort to
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  Speaker 12: get some answers, he called nine to one one, So
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  Speaker 12: what's going on tonight?
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  Speaker 4: I can't get kids?
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  Speaker 3: How old are you? Kids?
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  Speaker 2: Six and a half and sixteen? She's lost her mind?
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  Speaker 2: How the house to say it? She thinks she's a
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  Speaker 2: resurrected being in a god and remember one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: forty four thousand.
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  Speaker 4: She's come to Jesus is coming next year.
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  Speaker 3: So what makes her a danger to herself?
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  Speaker 13: And two others threatened the murder me, kill me. She's
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  Speaker 13: threatened to murder you. Yes, she said, you're not Charles.
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  Speaker 13: I don't know who you are what you did with Charles,
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  Speaker 13: but I can murder you now with my powers.
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  Speaker 3: Is this just all recent or has it been going on?
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  Speaker 14: Been going up about four or five years. It's gotten really,
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  Speaker 14: really bad lately. She was a temple every day and
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  Speaker 14: speaks with Marona and Jesus Christ. The last couple of days.
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  Speaker 14: I'm not Charles. You're not Charles, your Nick Schneider.
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  Speaker 12: According to Laurie, Nick Schneider is an evil spirit who
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  Speaker 12: has possessed Charles's body, and he believed these threats against
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  Speaker 12: his life were very real. In the last few years,
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  Speaker 12: she had become obsessed with the teachings of a man
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  Speaker 12: named Chad Dabell, a man well known for right dogmatically
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  Speaker 12: and teaching his thoughts about the end of days, the
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  Speaker 12: second Coming of Christ, and other more unique concepts like
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  Speaker 12: evil spirits and zombies. Both Chad and Laurie were also
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  Speaker 12: members of Preparing a People, a cult who were preparing
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  Speaker 12: for the second coming of Jesus Christ and the end
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  Speaker 12: of the world as we know it. Laurie also believed
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  Speaker 12: she was a member of the one hundred and forty
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  Speaker 12: four thousand, a group of high priests who will administer
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  Speaker 12: the Everlasting Gospel to the world in its last days.
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  Speaker 12: She also believed that every human was on a scale
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  Speaker 12: between light and dark, and the darker one's spirit was,
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  Speaker 12: the more dangerous they were to her and her beliefs.
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  Speaker 12: Laurie had actually become so involved in this new religious
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  Speaker 12: belief that Charles had become concerned not only for himself,
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  Speaker 12: but his two children as well.
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  Speaker 4: She said to me, Charles's stuff is gone, charles suff
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  Speaker 4: is gone.
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  Speaker 3: And how long have you been trying to get in
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  Speaker 3: touch with the kids. So how does she pose a
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  Speaker 3: threat to your children.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what she's going to do. She's going
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  Speaker 4: to flee with them, She's going to hurt them. And
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  Speaker 4: today she said, come take the kids. I don't care
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  Speaker 4: what happens to them. I just want to see my boys, okay.
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  Speaker 4: And she's got to pick up order.
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  Speaker 12: A pickup order can be obtained after one parent fails
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  Speaker 12: to deliver a child to another parent. As Charles has
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  Speaker 12: not heard from his kids in days, he felt he
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  Speaker 12: had no choice but to take action. The cops then
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  Speaker 12: helped Charles get back in the house, but it was
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  Speaker 12: too late, as Laurie and the kids were gone. The
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  Speaker 12: very next morning, Charles called nine to one one again,
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  Speaker 12: this time directing them to a hotel in Gilbert, Arizona,
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  Speaker 12: where he believed Laurie was hiding out with j J
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  Speaker 12: and ty Lee. This time, though, Charles had managed to
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  Speaker 12: obtain an emergency mental health petition, a note that would
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  Speaker 12: require Laurie to check into a mental health institution and
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  Speaker 12: undergo assessment.
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  Speaker 11: What's going on? Why is she hear you and I hear?
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  Speaker 11: Are you staying here?
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  Speaker 4: With her long stories?
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  Speaker 6: She's had kind of a blood for me upcat to
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  Speaker 6: support as much as I could, but it's gotten really,
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  Speaker 6: really bad. I wish she's had it right, says I'm
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  Speaker 6: Nick Snyder. I papered over Charles's body and Charles had
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  Speaker 6: been killed.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to kill you.
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  Speaker 12: You're murdered today to Charles had already tried to find
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  Speaker 12: Laurie earlier that morning by turning up at JJ's school,
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  Speaker 12: but despite seeing her car in the parking lot, there
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  Speaker 12: was no sign of her at all. However, she had
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  Speaker 12: left her purse in the car, so Charles took it
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  Speaker 12: in hopes that it would stop her from getting away.
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  Speaker 12: This works perfectly, as she walked into the Gilbert police
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  Speaker 12: station later this same morning to report her missing purse,
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  Speaker 12: but her version of events was much different.
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  Speaker 15: So this morning, when I took my son to school,
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  Speaker 15: but she was waiting somewhere and like, stole my.
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  Speaker 11: Purse out of the car. I hope he so, I
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  Speaker 11: fall on my wallet, my my kney, my everything.
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  Speaker 5: Was in there.
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  Speaker 2: What is it like that motivates him doing this kind
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  Speaker 2: of stuff?
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  Speaker 3: It did? He say?
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  Speaker 9: One?
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  Speaker 15: I caught him cheating and I had evidence, and I
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  Speaker 15: told him about it, and he travels a lot for business.
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  Speaker 15: So I told him that until him not to come home,
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  Speaker 15: and that his stuff would be gone, and that his
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  Speaker 15: car would be gone, and I listening.
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  Speaker 12: She claimed that she'd caught Charles having an affair and
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  Speaker 12: told him not to come home, locking him out of
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  Speaker 12: the house and taking his car, the first of many
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  Speaker 12: carefully fabricated lies that would not only ruin Charles's life
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  Speaker 12: but end it. Police informed Charles that he can't steal
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  Speaker 12: Laurie's property, no matter what the motive. A deal was
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  Speaker 12: then formed between them, saying that if Charles returned her purse,
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  Speaker 12: then the police would immediately follow up with the mental
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  Speaker 12: health petition, but eventually it went through and Laurie underwent
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  Speaker 12: her assessment. However, in two hours, Laurie was released with
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  Speaker 12: the doctors finding no issues at all. This decision sentenced
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  Speaker 12: Charles to death and put his kids lives in jeopardy.
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  Speaker 12: Charles filed for divorce, and six months later, his body
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  Speaker 12: was found at Laurie's house with two gunshot wounds across
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  Speaker 12: his body. The fate of his children was now in
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  Speaker 12: the hands of their delusional and dangerous mother.
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  Speaker 7: Apparent gunshots.
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  Speaker 2: He's right here in the living room. Firearm is going
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  Speaker 2: to be in the front door, in the bedroom, laying
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  Speaker 2: on the ground next to a case.
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  Speaker 7: You want to stay here?
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  Speaker 12: Get this guy's When Charles's body was found, an investigation
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  Speaker 12: determines the shooter to be Alex Cox, a man who
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  Speaker 12: just so happened to be the brother of Lori Valo.
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  Speaker 4: What's going on? What happened? He came to me with
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  Speaker 4: a bat. Was he living here or visiting? He came
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  Speaker 4: to pick up the sun?
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  Speaker 7: Okay?
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  Speaker 4: Is the sun inside? No, my sister took him to school. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: So it was just you at the house and he came.
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  Speaker 4: How long? What time did he come to pick up
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  Speaker 4: pick up the sun? Okay? So you know who he is. Yeah, okay, No,
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  Speaker 4: I think.
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  Speaker 3: They were talking earlier than she left, and then he
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  Speaker 3: got into him.
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  Speaker 4: With me, like, what what do you mean?
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  Speaker 12: Alex seems very vague in his answers and says he
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  Speaker 12: can't remember exactly what happened other than the pair simply
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  Speaker 12: got into a fight. But those kinds of answers aren't
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  Speaker 12: going to satisfy the cops, especially when there's a dead
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  Speaker 12: man involved.
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  Speaker 4: So you both so you get in an argument.
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  Speaker 3: What is it over?
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  Speaker 4: All's over my sister?
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  Speaker 10: He was, he was getting physical with her, and so
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  Speaker 10: my niece came out with her bat, and then he
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  Speaker 10: took the bat away.
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  Speaker 4: From what I thought you said, your niece left.
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  Speaker 16: She did work so before before your your sister and
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  Speaker 16: your niece left. At some point, your sister and her
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  Speaker 16: husband are arguing verbal argument, and then your niece pulls.
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  Speaker 4: Out a bat. Wasn't he was getting closed and she
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  Speaker 4: came out to defend my sister. Your niece, yes, okay,
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  Speaker 4: and then she poked at him and he took it away, okay.
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  Speaker 4: And then he's he's coming back and me and he
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  Speaker 4: stuck out to bat because what are you doing and
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  Speaker 4: where are you at it. Where are you both living?
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  Speaker 2: And then I turned around and he hit you in.
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  Speaker 7: The back of the head of the bat.
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  Speaker 13: I went to my room and got my gun.
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  Speaker 16: You went to your room, meaning your room you're staying, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 16: and you brought your brought a.
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  Speaker 4: Gun with you. Do you always bring a gun?
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  Speaker 15: Okay?
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  Speaker 4: Why did you stay just in your bedroom closed the door?
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  Speaker 4: Is that the something you didn't think about it or
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  Speaker 4: you did heard?
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  Speaker 12: This final statement should actually have torn down Alex's entire argument,
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  Speaker 12: as it technically proves this wasn't self defense at all.
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  Speaker 12: When Alex went to his room to grab his gun,
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  Speaker 12: he should have been able to usher his family inside,
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  Speaker 12: close the door, and stand his ground from there. Instead,
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  Speaker 12: he grabbed his gun and without a second thought, ran
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  Speaker 12: straight up to Charles and shot him. But at this
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  Speaker 12: point there were still so many looming questions the cops
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  Speaker 12: decided to bring in all parties back for an interrogation
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  Speaker 12: to try and get to the bottom of it all
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  Speaker 12: and figure out exactly what happened to Charles.
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  Speaker 11: Start when you.
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  Speaker 17: Think it makes a little sense, okay, so souseage, So
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  Speaker 17: because he offered to get in the house here where
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  Speaker 17: all my family is here in Houston.
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  Speaker 11: We had decided to separate or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: So he's like, I'll pay for a house for you
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  Speaker 5: and for JJ and whatever, because he's all about Jjay.
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  Speaker 11: He's never about Ty.
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  Speaker 5: Because we adopted him together, he says, great, yet few
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  Speaker 5: we adopted him as.
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  Speaker 11: Okay, he came away first, moved in and brought.
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  Speaker 5: Me stuff from Houston like a U haul and then
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  Speaker 5: he hasn't been back. But it's all these threats on
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  Speaker 5: my phone all the time, you know, like whatever, all
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  Speaker 5: these things. And then he told me what come of throats?
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  Speaker 5: Just he's all matty, right, and he doesn't want a divorce.
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  Speaker 5: So I don't like him and I don't want to
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  Speaker 5: do him. So that's just how it is. So we
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  Speaker 5: married for fourteen years, adultive for fourteen years, and him
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  Speaker 5: being horrible to her, like he has in huge freights
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  Speaker 5: of her.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, a lot of things.
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  Speaker 12: So anyway, immediately, Laurie describes Charles as a man with
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  Speaker 12: violent tendencies who had a history of aggression against the
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  Speaker 12: women he had married. If she can convince detectives that
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  Speaker 12: Charles had a temper, it would make their version of
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  Speaker 12: events even more plausible.
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  Speaker 5: So he went back to the Houston, US and I'm
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  Speaker 5: coming on Wednesday night and I'm going to come pick
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  Speaker 5: up jug and take him to school Thursday and pick
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  Speaker 5: him up Thursday and taking Friday whatever.
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  Speaker 11: I said.
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  Speaker 5: Cheesy wanted to come to the house, and I said,
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  Speaker 5: you can't come stay at this house because you can't
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  Speaker 5: get along Tyler.
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  Speaker 11: She's a minor and she has to live here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 11: so you cause he gets in huge tries out there
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  Speaker 11: and she hates him, and so I'm like, you can't
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  Speaker 11: stay at the house.
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  Speaker 5: So I would book you a hotel because he stays
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  Speaker 5: in hotels all the time because he travels for business
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  Speaker 5: and the business.
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  Speaker 11: Pays for it. What does he do.
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  Speaker 5: He works in teachers in their retirement plans, but he
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  Speaker 5: goes to them.
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  Speaker 11: That there's works in California.
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  Speaker 5: He has like books of business in the right areas
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  Speaker 5: and so he just goes wherever. She has to have
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  Speaker 5: freedom that he doesn't have to stay home everyday and
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  Speaker 5: take care of social Yeah an excuse her.
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  Speaker 15: Right.
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  Speaker 11: He came over in the morning and he's like banging
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  Speaker 11: on the door, like, well, great, here you know, and
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  Speaker 11: then did you justycle Dad? And then he was like
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  Speaker 11: Mom was like holding me.
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  Speaker 5: He's like, you're hot ta give me to school, and
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  Speaker 5: I was like, it's okay that he just trying to school,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I'm just trying to make it whatever. Yeah, calm.
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  Speaker 5: And then he's just being real smirky and like jerky,
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  Speaker 5: you know to me.
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  Speaker 11: And I was like I can write him or whatever.
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  Speaker 11: And so he was like, I'm gonna hear a brother
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  Speaker 11: loser with you.
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  Speaker 5: No, he had stayed with me last night because I
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  Speaker 5: was worried he was going to come over and over
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  Speaker 5: has trouble with He just wanted someone else there, like
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  Speaker 5: my brother there, because I trust my brother.
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  Speaker 12: They would claim self defense as the reason Charles was killed,
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  Speaker 12: and as the cops continue to question Laurie, they start
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  Speaker 12: to believe this even more.
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  Speaker 11: He goes nuts.
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  Speaker 5: He's gone nuts on us a lot of times ten
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  Speaker 5: and I've had to leave with JJ over the years,
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  Speaker 5: probably five times in just stay in the house all
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  Speaker 5: for two days because you don't know what it's going
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  Speaker 5: to set him off, Like she's mad at me for
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  Speaker 5: always like going back.
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  Speaker 11: But we had JJ.
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  Speaker 5: He special needs, and it's really hard, like it's even
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  Speaker 5: higher take it reviction.
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  Speaker 16: So you thought, and I don't want.
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  Speaker 18: To put words in your mouth, but you thought it
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  Speaker 18: was possible.
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  Speaker 13: That he was going to hurt you.
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  Speaker 11: Absolutely, it's gonna hurt me entily. Not JJ.
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  Speaker 5: You've never Jjay, and he hurt my brother like he
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  Speaker 5: was going ballistic about it.
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  Speaker 8: Was that, Okay.
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  Speaker 12: An angry husband losing his temper during a divorce is
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  Speaker 12: not uncommon, and feuding couples often come to blows, making
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  Speaker 12: her story more and more convincing. But according to Charles's
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  Speaker 12: ex wife, Cheryl, this was not the man she knew.
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  Speaker 12: She says they were married and divorced and not one time,
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  Speaker 12: not one second, was he ever physically threatening to me directly,
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  Speaker 12: contradicting what Laurie is saying.
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  Speaker 11: You say he goes nuts. That means beckoning a lot
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  Speaker 11: of different things.
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  Speaker 5: So physical violence, he's never really besides like grabbing us
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  Speaker 5: and pushing us.
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  Speaker 11: And I like punching up or something. But he looked tightly.
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  Speaker 11: He has gotten physical.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: He went like he was going to hit her, but
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  Speaker 5: then I got in between them. So this morning he
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  Speaker 5: comes back in because again I didn't give this song.
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  Speaker 11: He's screaming at me to give this song.
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  Speaker 5: He was very worried about whatever was on his text
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  Speaker 5: that he did not want me to see, and so
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  Speaker 5: I was just holding it there and he was screaming
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  Speaker 5: at me.
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  Speaker 11: And so Tyler came out of her room upset, and
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  Speaker 11: she had a bat and she told him to leave
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  Speaker 11: her mother.
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  Speaker 5: Alone, like right, so she was really whatever he's screaming
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  Speaker 5: at her, don't you hit.
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  Speaker 11: Me with that bat, all blah blah. And then my
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  Speaker 11: brother heard all.
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  Speaker 5: The commotion because he was in there and then and
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  Speaker 5: so he came out into the main room and.
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  Speaker 11: He's yelling at and so Tyler.
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  Speaker 5: I guess, I don't know she swung at him or what,
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  Speaker 5: but he like grabbed the bat from Tyly and then
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  Speaker 5: went to the hit tightly with the bat.
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  Speaker 11: And I was right there.
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  Speaker 5: They were right there, and my brother grabbed him from behind,
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  Speaker 5: like just to stop him from it entirely.
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  Speaker 11: They got into the thing. He's hitting him with the bat,
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  Speaker 11: and they're on the ground like grappling around or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: And then your brother with the bat wall they were grappling.
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  Speaker 12: And so, yes, but there are lingering questions left by
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  Speaker 12: the investigation, one such example being that the autopsy ruled
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  Speaker 12: one of the gunshots in acted while Charles was on
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  Speaker 12: the ground. Imagine being in a situation where you have
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  Speaker 12: no choice but to shoot someone, you'd probably freeze up
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  Speaker 12: and you'd do anything you could to avoid anything but
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  Speaker 12: incapacitating now instead of finishing the job. So it seems
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  Speaker 12: strange that Alex decided to shoot Charles a second time
• 15:18
  Speaker 12: when he was already flat on the ground. Furthermore, it
• 15:21
  Speaker 12: also seems strange that it would take almost forty five
• 15:24
  Speaker 12: minutes for anyone to call nine one one, although she
• 15:27
  Speaker 12: claims it was down to shock. This is conveniently just
• 15:30
  Speaker 12: enough time to concoct an alternative version of events and
• 15:33
  Speaker 12: a solid story to give to the police.
• 15:36
  Speaker 11: Okay, so you you hear there, you step off.
• 15:38
  Speaker 13: What's the first thing that you see Charles choose anty Lorio?
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 15:42
  Speaker 11: Had Tyler already gotten the bat? Did he already have
• 15:46
  Speaker 11: the back?
• 15:46
  Speaker 9: Okay?
• 15:47
  Speaker 11: So Charles is coming towards Lowrie or George Way, and.
• 15:50
  Speaker 7: I shoved him back.
• 15:51
  Speaker 11: Okay, I said, what are you doing? Because he's coming
• 15:55
  Speaker 11: at her aggressively.
• 15:55
  Speaker 10: Okays the big news I wasn't going So he's coming
• 15:58
  Speaker 10: out or yeah, you shoved him back?
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: Whatever?
• 16:01
  Speaker 11: Right after that, so I went into the bedroom, was saying,
• 16:03
  Speaker 11: grabma down, and I came back.
• 16:05
  Speaker 7: I said, put that bat down.
• 16:07
  Speaker 9: He's like, what are you going to do?
• 16:08
  Speaker 7: So you're gonna threaten me. I was like, no, one,
• 16:10
  Speaker 7: I'm just gonna defend myself. So you put that bat down, and.
• 16:14
  Speaker 12: He goes, no, you don't like that, and he came
• 16:15
  Speaker 12: at me okay, and he'd already hit me in the head.
• 16:18
  Speaker 11: She gave him how many times would you say? He
• 16:20
  Speaker 11: told him to put them back down?
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: Once?
• 16:22
  Speaker 18: Once okay, and then he started advancing towards he is
• 16:26
  Speaker 18: who much shouted you fire fellow?
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: What did couple?
• 16:31
  Speaker 12: One of Laurie's friends later reported that Laurie had said
• 16:33
  Speaker 12: Alex believed her theories about Charles being possessed by evil,
• 16:37
  Speaker 12: and the reason he was at the house at the
• 16:38
  Speaker 12: time of death is simple. He believed Charles was going
• 16:41
  Speaker 12: to try and kill Laurie and moved in with her
• 16:44
  Speaker 12: to help keep her safe.
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: I didn't see you just shot at her and that
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: I came back around and I saw that he was
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: on the ground and it.
• 16:51
  Speaker 11: Was freaking and so I was just.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: Freaking out and I just went into I'm like, I've got
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: to go to the kitchen. You just go back and
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: get to the kids. I just like, I know, I
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: gets the kids, and so I just went outside and
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: to see if they.
• 17:04
  Speaker 11: Were in there. Okay, I don't want them coming back
• 17:06
  Speaker 11: in the house.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: When all that was going on, and and Tylie was
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: like looking at me, it was like the crazy eyes,
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: like what just happened?
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: And I told her.
• 17:15
  Speaker 11: To get in the car and went to JJ's school.
• 17:17
  Speaker 18: And I just when you came back in and you
• 17:21
  Speaker 18: saw him on the ground, where was your brother?
• 17:23
  Speaker 11: Did you see him where he was at?
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 17:26
  Speaker 11: He was right in front of him. Did your brother
• 17:27
  Speaker 11: say anything to you at all? Do you remember?
• 17:31
  Speaker 14: No?
• 17:31
  Speaker 11: We were both just in shock, like it was just
• 17:35
  Speaker 11: I mean anything. I went out with the kids just
• 17:38
  Speaker 11: to check on them first, and I was going to
• 17:39
  Speaker 11: come back in maybe, but I didn't. I was like,
• 17:42
  Speaker 11: I just have to get him to school and call
• 17:45
  Speaker 11: the police.
• 17:46
  Speaker 19: You know.
• 17:47
  Speaker 18: Did you you were your brother say anything at some
• 17:49
  Speaker 18: point about calling the police or calling I one one?
• 17:52
  Speaker 11: Do you remember?
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: He called me.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: Okay and he said are you taking GJ to his school?
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: And I said, yeah, we need to call the police.
• 18:00
  Speaker 11: O good, okay, Okay.
• 18:02
  Speaker 18: So you he called you when you didn't come back inside,
• 18:05
  Speaker 18: basically right, because I was like in the car per.
• 18:08
  Speaker 11: Minute, and then I was like, what do I do?
• 18:10
  Speaker 12: It looks on the surface that an enraged Charles stormed
• 18:14
  Speaker 12: the house and started shouting at Laurie. Alex decided to intervene,
• 18:17
  Speaker 12: fearing for his sister's life, but what started as a
• 18:20
  Speaker 12: disagreement quickly turned into a fight, one that would end
• 18:23
  Speaker 12: with Charles lying cold on the ground. And ty Lee
• 18:26
  Speaker 12: seems to back up what Laurie and Alex said when
• 18:29
  Speaker 12: she tells her version of events.
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: I opened the door.
• 18:32
  Speaker 10: And it was my stepdad and he was just screaming
• 18:37
  Speaker 10: at both of them, like and so I just kind
• 18:40
  Speaker 10: of sucked the bag of that out there, and then
• 18:41
  Speaker 10: he like he just grabbed it, and so I fell to.
• 18:45
  Speaker 11: It around and then my uncle kind.
• 18:48
  Speaker 10: Of like I saw him take a step back. So
• 18:51
  Speaker 10: my uncle I didn't grabbed him and kind of took
• 18:54
  Speaker 10: him back. So we couldn't do anything, and so my
• 18:56
  Speaker 10: mom said to go with JJ, and so I ran
• 18:59
  Speaker 10: up the door and then I kind of just stood there,
• 19:01
  Speaker 10: and then eventually my mom came out and then I heard.
• 19:06
  Speaker 11: A noise, which I know what it was now, but
• 19:09
  Speaker 11: it sounded like someone like took it and hit it
• 19:12
  Speaker 11: really hard against the floor, Okay. So I just wanted
• 19:15
  Speaker 11: to make.
• 19:15
  Speaker 10: Sure that, like my stepdad didn't do anything to my
• 19:18
  Speaker 10: uncle and stuff.
• 19:19
  Speaker 11: And so she was like, no, like that's fine, Like
• 19:21
  Speaker 11: we're just going to take to news school or not.
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: Was okay.
• 19:24
  Speaker 12: Despite Charles's lack of a violent history and how many
• 19:27
  Speaker 12: times Alex nearly slipped up on scene, Laurie's story, coupled
• 19:31
  Speaker 12: with ty Lee's perspective, was enough for detectives to officially
• 19:34
  Speaker 12: rule this as self defense. But the death of Charles
• 19:38
  Speaker 12: Valow was just the tip of the iceberg, and investigators
• 19:41
  Speaker 12: quickly discovered that Laurie had become entangled in the world
• 19:44
  Speaker 12: of a seedy cult that would turn this seemingly perfect
• 19:47
  Speaker 12: mom into a stone cold killer.
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: Laurie nate Eton with East Idaho News, can you tell
• 19:51
  Speaker 8: me where your kids are?
• 19:54
  Speaker 12: Where are your kids?
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Nor comment they've been missing for four months? You have
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: nothing to say.
• 19:58
  Speaker 13: Listen, just tell people what There's people around the country
• 20:01
  Speaker 13: praying for your children, praying for you guys.
• 20:03
  Speaker 12: Why don't you give us answers?
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: That's great.
• 20:06
  Speaker 12: Just days after Charles's death, Laurie decided it was time
• 20:09
  Speaker 12: for a change and moved the entire family across the
• 20:12
  Speaker 12: country to Rexburg, Idaho, a strange choice at first until
• 20:17
  Speaker 12: you realize that this was the hometown of Chad day Bell,
• 20:20
  Speaker 12: and Laurie was now living minutes away from a man
• 20:23
  Speaker 12: who had not only convinced her that her husband was evil,
• 20:26
  Speaker 12: but was now beginning to spin the same evil stories
• 20:29
  Speaker 12: for her kids as well. But this is when detectives
• 20:32
  Speaker 12: met Melanie, Laurie's best friend and another member of her cult.
• 20:36
  Speaker 12: She was there to spell all the sort of details
• 20:39
  Speaker 12: on their ideology and the beliefs that could soon lead
• 20:42
  Speaker 12: to the death of Laurie's kids.
• 20:44
  Speaker 19: Jen said that it's some childhood friend that Charles had
• 20:48
  Speaker 19: and that he died and then he came back as
• 20:51
  Speaker 19: he didn't never believe he was an unclaim sparent that
• 20:53
  Speaker 19: got trapped on earth, and he was now attached enough
• 20:56
  Speaker 19: for years, and he'd.
• 20:56
  Speaker 11: Been studying him right as.
• 20:58
  Speaker 9: Aid behaviors and stuff like that, and then he pushed
• 21:01
  Speaker 9: his spirit out by and took.
• 21:02
  Speaker 11: Over, that's what he said, push Charles's spirit.
• 21:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so his spirit now moved on. So she believed
• 21:08
  Speaker 9: that he was that Charles was gone. He was already gone,
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: so she was treating it like he was, said Snyder.
• 21:12
  Speaker 12: This is all extremely confusing but simultaneously eye opening, as
• 21:16
  Speaker 12: it gives us a direct window into what Laurie believed
• 21:19
  Speaker 12: about her own family. Apparently, she thought Charles was possessed
• 21:23
  Speaker 12: by a dark spirit, and by that point he was
• 21:25
  Speaker 12: already gone. The problem is she thought the scene for
• 21:28
  Speaker 12: her children Charles had corrupted them and they'd turn into zombies.
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: So you mentioned zombies.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, was that ever a turn that you were exposed
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: to by them?
• 21:41
  Speaker 11: And okay, tell me more about the zombies that she
• 21:44
  Speaker 11: had dream once in earthquake. Have a new town people
• 21:46
  Speaker 11: at helling here.
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: If they were able to get rid of all the
• 21:49
  Speaker 9: zombies in the world, then those zombies won't get into
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: those dead bodies and come back.
• 21:55
  Speaker 11: Number one, I shipp map. But she's like, okay, here's
• 21:57
  Speaker 11: the nice states. We're going to do prayer.
• 21:58
  Speaker 9: Let's find out how many zombies are in Arizona. Okay,
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: there's twenty thousand. Yeah, I don't red the number.
• 22:04
  Speaker 11: Joe saw it there, and then she'd say a little prayer.
• 22:07
  Speaker 11: Whatever word she'd come up with us she thought were powerful.
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: And then he would check, Oh, somebody, I look like
• 22:12
  Speaker 9: you can I could come find out.
• 22:14
  Speaker 11: So then that was her way. In my opinion, you.
• 22:16
  Speaker 9: Know what I saw this was just through a prayer
• 22:19
  Speaker 9: that these people would pass away.
• 22:20
  Speaker 12: Laurie believes that if the earth was to truly be pure,
• 22:23
  Speaker 12: all the zombies had to be killed. Chad also began
• 22:27
  Speaker 12: to feed Laurie more and more fantastical lies about how
• 22:30
  Speaker 12: the world worked, including ascension, translation, and the ability to
• 22:35
  Speaker 12: meet with God himself.
• 22:37
  Speaker 11: Then they had a.
• 22:37
  Speaker 9: Skill of zero one hundred percent how much you could
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: trust people. I was supposed to be like ninety seven percent.
• 22:43
  Speaker 9: They are always building me up to me anyway, She
• 22:44
  Speaker 9: would sometimes share like, oh this person of that ors
• 22:47
  Speaker 9: that's not transferred this percent, and that was their book, Pagot,
• 22:51
  Speaker 9: maybe you know or don't know vibrations. So vibrations, yes,
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: I'm aware of that too. So according to how he
• 22:58
  Speaker 9: would check that he's.
• 23:00
  Speaker 11: Penulum being on.
• 23:01
  Speaker 9: I didn't know about the beginning, but any of the
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: one thousand was just to mean if you got to
• 23:05
  Speaker 9: one thousand, that means you translated, or your beginning your translation,
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: and then as you get higher in your vibration, you
• 23:12
  Speaker 9: could portle at some point maybe to what she could say,
• 23:15
  Speaker 9: twenty five hundred maybe here something like that, and so
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: the more you went to the temple of your vibration
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: would increase. So it's like this is like your light
• 23:23
  Speaker 9: would increase that kind of if that makes sense.
• 23:27
  Speaker 12: Laurie had become convinced she could speak to Jesus and
• 23:30
  Speaker 12: appeared to be consumed by Chad's work. Not long after,
• 23:34
  Speaker 12: their relationship began to heat up, and they even started
• 23:37
  Speaker 12: their religious podcast together. That showed, frankly, just how insane
• 23:41
  Speaker 12: she had become.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: I too have.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: Seen the resurrected Jesus Christ, and he has told me
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: my mission, and he.
• 23:49
  Speaker 11: Has sent me to help people and lived them in
• 23:52
  Speaker 11: their missions.
• 23:54
  Speaker 12: Over time, Laurie had become more outspoken with her beliefs
• 23:57
  Speaker 12: of zombies and began to tell her friends about how
• 23:59
  Speaker 12: many people had been consumed by evil spirits and demons.
• 24:03
  Speaker 12: Laurie then started telling her friends that her son Jaj's
• 24:06
  Speaker 12: behavior had changed and that he had started telling her
• 24:09
  Speaker 12: he loved Satan, as well as becoming more disruptive in
• 24:12
  Speaker 12: the home. Had police listened to Charles Vallow when he
• 24:15
  Speaker 12: feared for JJ and Tylee's lives, than they could have
• 24:18
  Speaker 12: prevented this series of tragic events that followed. Only days
• 24:22
  Speaker 12: after moving to Rexburg, Laurie, Alex, JJ, and Tylee visited
• 24:26
  Speaker 12: Yellowstone Park. This was the last time anyone saw Tylee alive.
• 24:31
  Speaker 12: Things became even stranger on September seventeenth, twenty nineteen, when
• 24:35
  Speaker 12: JJ was spotted running into his Idaho home on a
• 24:38
  Speaker 12: neighbor's door, caam never to be seen again. Months later,
• 24:42
  Speaker 12: people started to realize that they hadn't heard from JJ
• 24:45
  Speaker 12: in a long time, and Charles's parents called nine poet
• 24:48
  Speaker 12: one to alert the police of his disappearance. Laurie was
• 24:51
  Speaker 12: caught lying to officers on November twenty sixth after they
• 24:54
  Speaker 12: had made a welfare check on JJ. According to Laurie,
• 24:57
  Speaker 12: her son was with her friend Melanie back in Arizona,
• 25:00
  Speaker 12: but Melanie not only denied having him, but she also
• 25:03
  Speaker 12: told police Lourie had asked her to lie and pretend
• 25:06
  Speaker 12: to officers JJ was staying with her. Then in December,
• 25:10
  Speaker 12: Alex died suddenly. His death was ruled as natural causes,
• 25:14
  Speaker 12: but the amount of death and strange occurrences involving Laurie
• 25:17
  Speaker 12: was reaching impossible levels of coincidence. By this time, police
• 25:21
  Speaker 12: were also extremely concerned for the welfare of JJ and
• 25:24
  Speaker 12: ty Lee, so Laurie was served an order in January
• 25:27
  Speaker 12: twenty twenty forcing her to prove that they are safe
• 25:30
  Speaker 12: and well. However, the deadline came and went, and Laurie
• 25:33
  Speaker 12: was arrested three weeks later and placed on a bail
• 25:36
  Speaker 12: of five million dollars. But even after the arrest, both
• 25:40
  Speaker 12: Laurie and Chad remained silent and refused to give up
• 25:43
  Speaker 12: any information on the kids. But finally, a further five
• 25:46
  Speaker 12: months later, the police would get their answers when detectives
• 25:49
  Speaker 12: initiated a search of Chad Dabell's property. There they found
• 25:53
  Speaker 12: the bodies of JJ and ty Lee. JJ's body was
• 25:57
  Speaker 12: found wrapped in duct tape and placed in a plastic bag,
• 26:00
  Speaker 12: while ty Lee had been dismembered and burned in a
• 26:03
  Speaker 12: fire pit before being buried. Police arrested Chad immediately and
• 26:07
  Speaker 12: Laurie's trial began not long after. It took another three years,
• 26:11
  Speaker 12: but eventually she was found guilty of first agree murder,
• 26:14
  Speaker 12: conspiracy to commit first agree murder, and grand theft over
• 26:18
  Speaker 12: the deaths of her children. Laurie was far from remorseful.
• 26:22
  Speaker 12: In a bizarre statement she made to the court after
• 26:25
  Speaker 12: she was sentenced.
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: My beautiful children, Kylie Ashlin and Joshua Jackson rest safely
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: this day in the arms of Jesus, and I look
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: forward to the day we are all reunited, and I
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: too will rest with them in the arms of my Jesus.
• 26:41
  Speaker 12: Thankfully, this evil mother, if you can even call her
• 26:45
  Speaker 12: that anymore, won't be getting out anytime soon, as she
• 26:48
  Speaker 12: was sentenced to five consecutive life sentences. She's not finished
• 26:53
  Speaker 12: in the courtroom yet, though, as her trial for murdering
• 26:55
  Speaker 12: Charles is set to start in April twenty twenty four.
• 26:59
  Speaker 12: As of March to the twenty four, Chad Dabell is
• 27:02
  Speaker 12: yet to go to trial, but he could be facing
• 27:04
  Speaker 12: a similar conviction and a lifetime behind bars.