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25W: Aaron Rodgers Defying All Odds + The Volume's John Middlekauff + We Pick Our Broken Promises Playoff Games! · 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast)

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  Speaker 2: go now and do the tittle tattle name.
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  Speaker 4: The title.
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  Speaker 6: After losing his third straight game to Michigan last week,
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  Speaker 6: do you think Ohio State fans are crazy for wanting
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  Speaker 6: Ryan Day out.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the answer is yes, but you're also allowed to
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  Speaker 2: be crazy if the situation they're crazy about is an
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  Speaker 2: absurd situation, which is how he heated and hated that rivalry.
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  Speaker 2: Is so yeah, Ryan Day's awesome. He's a great coach.
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  Speaker 2: He's fifty six and seven during his five years there,
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  Speaker 2: and he was forced in that position. He immediately he's
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  Speaker 2: won the Big twelve or excuse me that he's won
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  Speaker 2: the Big Ten twice. Again five years, he's won the
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  Speaker 2: Big Ten twice. He's one and six against teams ranking
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  Speaker 2: the top five. Again, not done so hot like in
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  Speaker 2: the College football playoff and hasn't beat Michigan. And I
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  Speaker 2: saw Maurice Clarette like they should have then and now
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  Speaker 2: he's like, that's our dude, Ryan Day. You give him
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  Speaker 2: a hundred million whatever he said, and then it is
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  Speaker 2: like gotta fire him. Really he can't be Michigan fire
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  Speaker 2: yeah after this last game. Uh yeah, but you you're
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  Speaker 2: allowed to be crazy, and they're crazy. Ryan Day's awesome,
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  Speaker 2: But you also know when you take that job that
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  Speaker 2: if you don't win.
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  Speaker 3: That game.
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  Speaker 2: One out of three times, at worst one out of
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  Speaker 2: it's going.
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  Speaker 3: To be a hot seat.
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  Speaker 2: If he loses again next year, Yeah, I think that
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  Speaker 2: they probably have to have a conversation.
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  Speaker 3: And it's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: He could go eleven to one, but he loses that
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  Speaker 2: game again and if they don't win a national title,
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  Speaker 2: they are probably upset.
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  Speaker 1: But how many times did Harball lose that game?
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  Speaker 3: A lot?
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  Speaker 2: Upfronts he was almost out. Yeah, for the same reason. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because he kept losing. He could not beat them.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, they're crazy, but yeah, we all are.
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  Speaker 2: But when your team is really good and there are
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  Speaker 2: a couple of things that you're consistently extremely crazy about,
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  Speaker 2: then yeah, the expectation is they're gonna be crazy about
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  Speaker 2: this that you have to make sure they're not.
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  Speaker 6: Like I think of you as an Arkansas fan, you
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  Speaker 6: would take fifty six and seven in a five year
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  Speaker 6: spent any day, right, and.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I think I'll have.
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  Speaker 2: I think Ohio State would too if one of those
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  Speaker 2: three would be Michigan. Yeah, I mean last night I
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  Speaker 2: was thinking my Lord and Savior for Bob Petrino.
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  Speaker 6: That's about the game.
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  Speaker 1: Oh was he there? I didn't see him there, But
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  Speaker 1: I love the people's shirt. People were wearing shirts already
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  Speaker 1: with his face.
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  Speaker 2: There's one that I wanted to make and I haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen it, so there could have been somebody that already
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  Speaker 2: made this shirt, but I wanted to say Patrino.
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  Speaker 3: Question mark is Patrina.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's so good and it might exist Patriot.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, all right, next time?
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  Speaker 6: With both teams having one loss, do you think Texas
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  Speaker 6: deserves to be rankedhigher than Oregon based on their win
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  Speaker 6: at Alabama?
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  Speaker 2: Because of how a lot of this stuff is falling.
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  Speaker 2: This team beats this team, well, you gotta put them in.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but this beat that team, so you can't.
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  Speaker 2: So it's so much that I'm just going eyeball test
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  Speaker 2: and no. Watching Texas play a lot and watching an
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  Speaker 2: Organ play a decent amount of times, I think Organ
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  Speaker 2: is a better team. You can go well, but Texas
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  Speaker 2: had this loss in this winn Oregon lost to Washington
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  Speaker 2: and Wash. Still I think Organ's the better team. So
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  Speaker 2: the strength of schedule for Organ's pretty weak. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's like sixty two or something and Texas is thirteen.
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  Speaker 2: But Texas looks a little slower, but they're also bigger.
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  Speaker 2: They just don't play that should challenge like boxers.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know what, screw it?
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  Speaker 1: You beat? Get up?
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  Speaker 4: Meet me?
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  Speaker 2: Here a random Thursday, they play each other. It's all
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  Speaker 2: gonna settle itself. Hardly ever, does it get as fun
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  Speaker 2: as we really want it to. Every once in a
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  Speaker 2: while there's some chaos, but when you look at it
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  Speaker 2: every year, we're like, what if this happens? Oh No,
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  Speaker 2: in the end, it usually settles itself pretty well. I
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  Speaker 2: hope it doesn't. But I think Oregon probably beats Washington,
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  Speaker 2: Texas probably beats Oklahoma State. The game that we all
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  Speaker 2: have to really watch and wonder is the Alabama Georgia game.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it's thinking liberty in New Mexico State.
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  Speaker 2: I think their coach today, Uh maybe no, maybe that
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  Speaker 2: was regardless, it doesn't matter, could be not true to Kansas.
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  Speaker 3: Guy's going to Mexico State apparently, who knows. So I
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  Speaker 3: think Oregon's better.
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  Speaker 2: But if Alabama beats Georgia, then then teams start to
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  Speaker 2: be left out chaos and then the Florida State no quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: Like that's a big part of it too, But if
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  Speaker 2: they beat Louisville they have to be put in. I
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  Speaker 2: don't care if they play with men, but no quarterback
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  Speaker 2: doesn't suck. Yes it does suck, I get it, But
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  Speaker 2: like that just sucks.
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  Speaker 4: It sucks.
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  Speaker 2: It sucks for them, I know, but they deserve the
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  Speaker 2: right to try it at their backup quarterback. Absolutely, yes,
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  Speaker 2: But one lost Florida State with the backup quarterback does
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  Speaker 2: not get in. But a one loss Oregon gets in,
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  Speaker 2: a one lost Texas gets in. But one lost Florida
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  Speaker 2: State you would talk about getting in if they had
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  Speaker 2: their full strength.
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  Speaker 3: They don't.
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  Speaker 2: I did bet a future on Alabama win the National Championship.
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  Speaker 1: You did that a while back?
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  Speaker 2: No, I bet, oh yeah, but I bet like a
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  Speaker 2: substantialish one. But they have to win multiple games, like
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  Speaker 2: they have to beat Georgia. If they don't win the SEC,
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  Speaker 2: they're not getting in.
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  Speaker 6: I bet bo Nicks to the Heusman back in September.
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  Speaker 3: You did, Yeah, that's pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: Is that plus one thousand back?
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  Speaker 1: Then it's wow.
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  Speaker 3: It's so it's open.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: But if he performs well, yeah night, then this championship yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I mean Jane Daniels, Yeah, he can't play, so.
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  Speaker 3: No option for him.
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  Speaker 2: So if they're if like a bo I mean Pennix,
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  Speaker 2: if he goes crazy in that title same game, he
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  Speaker 2: could actually kind of reinsert himself as that guy who
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  Speaker 2: else is up.
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  Speaker 6: For it, Marvin Heerson, No, no, because he's not playing.
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  Speaker 1: Dn't know. That's that's it.
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  Speaker 6: Mostly on the quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like, oh McCarthy at Michigan, Yeah, he's not
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  Speaker 2: in it. I mean it's probably I've seen him in
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  Speaker 2: those when they put all the slides.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because but but again, if he goes off and goes
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  Speaker 2: so crazy, possibly if.
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  Speaker 3: The other guys don't.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, I think if one of the if Knicks
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  Speaker 2: or Pinnix or as you call them penis, if they
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  Speaker 2: go and it for three fifty in run for one
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  Speaker 2: twenty and have five total touchdowns, win the game, and
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  Speaker 2: then the other guys don't do much, I think that
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  Speaker 2: probably establishes them as the first or second guy in
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  Speaker 2: that race, you know, unless she was not playing.
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  Speaker 6: Like I said, yeah, if you had a shot then maybe.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, he's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Plus one thousand? What is that? One hundred and one?
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  Speaker 6: So I bet twenty bucks in the paoud is two
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  Speaker 6: twenty Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's amazing. That's one hundred and one.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so I need to do good go bo?
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  Speaker 1: What right?
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  Speaker 2: What plus one thousand wouldn't mean if you bet one
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  Speaker 2: hundred dollars. You make a thousand dollars. Yeah, yes, so
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  Speaker 2: that would be tenda ten to one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean to do once you get
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  Speaker 1: into those plus a lot of zeros.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I was happing to say it out loud
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  Speaker 3: to make sure you gets yeah right.
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  Speaker 6: Next up going to the NFL as underdogs at home
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  Speaker 6: against the forty nine on Sunday. Would you be upset
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  Speaker 6: with a disrespect if you're an Eagles fan?
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  Speaker 2: I think Philly has the culture of disrespect is expected,
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  Speaker 2: So you can disrespect us all you want. We've always
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  Speaker 2: been disrespected. We're just gonna stick it around in your
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  Speaker 2: freaking face. Yeah, they like that because we're Philly. So
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  Speaker 2: and also it's the forty nine ers. If you were't
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  Speaker 2: anybody else, maybe I would see that three points was
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  Speaker 2: way too much.
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  Speaker 3: That's probably the only team to be favored by three
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  Speaker 3: over them.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's pretty accurate.
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  Speaker 3: So the weird thing is they're at home.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a full touchdown if you do the cliche
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  Speaker 2: three points. But no, I'm not they're gonna be disrespected.
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  Speaker 2: They're disrespected period. I think they need to be disrespected. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's how I was early in my career, like I
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  Speaker 2: need somebody to I need to hate somebody so I
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  Speaker 2: can kill them.
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  Speaker 3: And that's where I got my worth.
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  Speaker 6: Didn't matter who it was, Nope, anybody. It was the
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  Speaker 6: pope on oh I think, oh yeah, that last one
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  Speaker 6: hitting the practice field for the first time this week.
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  Speaker 6: Do you think it's smart that Aaron Rodgers is coming
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  Speaker 6: back for the Jets?
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  Speaker 1: Possibly this guy.
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  Speaker 2: They're four and seven, they are only in front of
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots and the FC playoff picture of the Patriots
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  Speaker 2: suck the next three games with the Falcons, they can
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  Speaker 2: win that the Texans like win that Dolphins probably not.
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  Speaker 2: Do I think that it's smart? Well for who for
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  Speaker 2: the Jets in their future? No, for Aaron Rodgers, yes,
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  Speaker 2: because he loves to be that guy the attention. This
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  Speaker 2: is what it's about for him to prove that he
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  Speaker 2: can do it, to prove that he is a modern
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  Speaker 2: medical miracle, could be the center of every story, to
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  Speaker 2: be the guy that came back in however many.
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  Speaker 3: Weeks, it's been eleven, which is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: So is it smart because it could reinjure it and
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  Speaker 2: they're also not in the playoff hunt. I think if
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  Speaker 2: they were to win, these are Falcons this week, right,
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  Speaker 2: I think if they were to win these next two.
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  Speaker 3: Games, I don't know, Man, that's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see what happens. We'll be watching.
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  Speaker 1: But they're activating him, which means that he's not gonna
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  Speaker 1: play like I don't even thin key like really practices.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, But he can be on the practice field.
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  Speaker 2: He's been throwing. I'll watched him in sweats. If they
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  Speaker 2: were to beat the Falcons and the Texans, I think
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  Speaker 2: it would be a real conversation of is he going
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  Speaker 2: to come back? I think right now it's just let's
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  Speaker 2: let Aaron indulge Aaron. But if they win the next
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  Speaker 2: two games, I think that Aaron could come back. If
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  Speaker 2: there's a chance they could get in the freaking playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: I'm here for it. I don't even care about Rogers.
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  Speaker 3: I just love you.
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  Speaker 1: Love storyline.
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  Speaker 2: I love storylines when nobody's getting hurt, and this is
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  Speaker 2: the story that where nobody's getting hurt, nobody's losing because
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  Speaker 2: of this.
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  Speaker 3: Well he could, but that's on him because he did it,
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  Speaker 3: you know, So I like that. All Right, that's it.
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  Speaker 2: That's tittle tattlet his name. The twenty five Whistles, present
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  Speaker 1: So did you already bet it?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 5: I didn't bet it yet.
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  Speaker 2: Read three teams? All right, give us the parlay so
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  Speaker 7: Well, I shall want to first say that there was
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  Speaker 7: a guy when we did our NFL trivia he was like,
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  Speaker 7: that kid is an idiot.
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  Speaker 5: I just want to say this kid's heart okay, right,
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  Speaker 5: and a little bit of luck.
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  Speaker 3: Patient.
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  Speaker 1: Well you're talking about you, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I'm talking about me.
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  Speaker 3: Be patient, man, you got to be patient patient alright.
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  Speaker 7: All right, So we're going a three gamer. We got
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  Speaker 7: two money lines and one spread. Bet for the money
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  Speaker 7: line ends. We're going UNLV at home the MWC Championship
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  Speaker 7: Midwestern Conference.
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  Speaker 3: Why would you not take the Boise State points?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, let them be him.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just asking because if you're trying to get
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  Speaker 2: a win, because Boise State's favorite by two and a half,
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  Speaker 2: so you would get UNLV plus two and a half,
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  Speaker 2: but you decided to go money line and make it
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  Speaker 2: harder on yourself.
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  Speaker 1: All right, but to make more money in the Midwestern smiles.
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  Speaker 3: You mean Mountain West.
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  Speaker 5: It's Mountain West, whatever, man whatever.
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  Speaker 7: And then we're going Florida State money line and Alabama spread.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so let me get this straight. You're going UNLV
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  Speaker 2: money line versus Boise State. Boise is the favorite, so
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  Speaker 2: you could have got to two and a half points there,
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  Speaker 2: but that's okay, you don't care. Hey, I want the
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  Speaker 2: money line. Now you got Florida State money line. They
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  Speaker 2: are a favorite over Louisville two and a half points,
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  Speaker 2: so that kind of equals itself out.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, back to even.
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  Speaker 3: And then you have Alabama getting five and a half points. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm gonna at Alabama un v flories day.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's go, I'm in.
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  Speaker 5: Are you gonna bet this?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 7: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all gonna bet? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Come on, guys, I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna bet, and I'm gonna bet like two hundred bucks
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  Speaker 3: on it.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, it's like plus six hundred. So it's like you
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  Speaker 5: bet ten bucks, you win seventy.
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  Speaker 1: I'll bet ten dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go. I feel good. Come on, all right, you
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  Speaker 2: John Middlecoff. John was a scout for the Eagles under
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  Speaker 2: how Roseman Andy Reid. Now he hosts a podcast called
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  Speaker 2: His YouTube channels great to check it out here. He
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  Speaker 2: is John Middlecoff Hey, John, good to talk to you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a massive fan of your podcast. I discovered it
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  Speaker 2: because I know Colin a little bit and I'm a
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  Speaker 2: big Cowherd fan, and he puts your show on his
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  Speaker 2: stream as well. And now I look forward to your
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  Speaker 2: analysis and just your thoughts on football as much as
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  Speaker 2: anybody else.
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  Speaker 4: So thank you for the time. Big fan, No problem, Bobby.
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm a massive, massive country music guy. So I've
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  Speaker 4: followed your career and you've been it feels like, in
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  Speaker 4: my life for a long time now, So this is
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  Speaker 4: pretty cool. Man, Not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 3: Well, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 2: Let's let's talk first of all, just about your background,
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  Speaker 2: because you have done a lot of things in football.
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  Speaker 2: But for me, when you talk about how you were
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  Speaker 2: a scout, because you scouted under Howi Roseman Andy Reid,
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  Speaker 2: for the most.
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  Speaker 3: Part, is that correct?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: What's a day to day for a scout? I guess
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: for scouts only no baseball and they're driving around in
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: like tiny towns with one double A minor league teams.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: What's a football scout doing?
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: I think it depends what you do when you're on
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: the road. There's a lot of that driving around going
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: to schools, right, Obviously, you know in the NFL, the
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: most I would say lucrative ground as a scout tends
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: to be the South, the SEC right, the Alabama's, the Georgia's,
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: the LSUS, but now that includes Florida State, Clemson kind
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: of that region. And then on a given year, you know,
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: different schools are more powerful than others. Obviously, Ohio State
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: and Michigan are really good, so you spend a lot
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: of time going to those premium schools. And because eventually,
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: you know, when you draft these guys in the first
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: couple rounds, you're investing in a lot of money into them.
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: You know, in most businesses you deal with, like acquiring
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: a business, it's very black and white. You just pull
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: up the Excel spreadsheets like it makes this much money,
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: it loses this much money, it's got these liabilities as
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: these fixed costs. When you're dealing with the nineteen twenty
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: twenty one, twenty two year old guy, there are a
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: lot of variables. And I think one thing I've learned,
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: even since I've gotten out of the league and now
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: do what I do, and just I have a lot
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: of friends that do it. They spend so much time
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: on the character. They spend so much time on the
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: person and they're still an unknown. I don't know about you,
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: but you know I wasn't the most mature individual at
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: twenty two, twenty three years old, and I have a
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: lot of respect for these guys that can come in
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: and handle it. So I think you spend a lot
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: of time people around the program, assistant coaches, people that
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: work with them academically, how they treat women right, how
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: they treat people that can't do an It's of course
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: you're going to show respect to your coordinator, but what
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: about your you know, your academic counselor you know, do
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: you treat her and that you can find things out?
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: And I think you just spend a lot of time
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: basically being a detective. And then when you work in
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: the office, which I did, you kind of do you
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: know a little bit everything. It's like, you know, getting
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: your start in any industry, right, you want to get
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: your foot in the door. You're willing to go get
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: dry cleaning, You're willing to go pick up people at
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: the airport to getting to do and that that usually
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: just leads to bigger roles. But you know, when I
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: when I first got started, and I actually did. It
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: started in college football at President State was the same thing.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: You just there's no task that's too big, and then
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: just gradually doors open and they give you more responsibility.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: But like going on chew runs for the coach is
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: as important as writing up some player.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: A guy like c J.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Stroud who has kind of defied all expectations. But also
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: when his test scores came out last year and they're
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: like he's performed the worst of all the quarterbacks, and
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: he's like, I played football, I don't take tests. Like
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: how much would that have affected you in drafting him?
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: And then what we've seen from him has been the opposite.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: I guess of what the expectation was set.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: I think it depends. Like you know, one thing I
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: learned and I think it's true in any walk of
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: life is like what you score in a classroom, does
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: that necessarily translate to what I want you to do? Right?
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: I'm sure there's a lot of people in radio, in
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: podcasting selling cars doing whatever that were bad taking a
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: standardized test? Now do they learn that individual industry? Well? Right?
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Like clearly CJ. Stride, You watch him player, like, damn,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: this guy's pretty damn good, and I think you can
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: overthink it and a lot of times leading up to
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: the draft, right they haven't played football in four or
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: five months, so there's a lot of a lot of
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: talk right now is the best because all you're judging
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: them off is the games. And I think that game
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: that he had against Georgia, where Ohio State easily could
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: have won, you went, Holy Molly, this guy's freaking good,
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden it stops. Now here's
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: the other thing I think sometimes you know, in the
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: world of talking about sports, like he got disrespected. He
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: went two overall, you know, he didn't drop to the
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: seventh round. So I think he's definitely been better than
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: everyone expected. And I think he's a good example of
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: can he play football because that's ultimately what he's being
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: played paid to do, play football, And there's a maturity
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: to him clearly. I mean, he's I find him pretty
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: easy to root for.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Do some people value the tests like organizations more than others?
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I guess is also what I'm asking because again, why
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: I take the test if it's not valued by at
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: least some people.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of you know, the standardized wonderlicks
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: score is kind of viewed as I think we're kind
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: of similar ages maybe as like the Act and a
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: SAT they're kind of old school. You can only put
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: so much stock into them. There are a lot of
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of these organizations, like I said,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: they're investing so much money, have invested in you know,
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: cognitive testing. I'm talking you know, Navy seals or people
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: that would you know help major Fortune five hundred company
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: try to find a CFO or CEO so that they
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: are doing tests that more. How do you handle adversity
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: the quickness of your brain operating more than just you know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: if there's seven widgets in a bag and the building
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: catches on.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Fire, what happens.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: So I think a lot of teams do that stuff
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: that never gets out that there was a test. There's
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: like this light test that I guess values how quick
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: the brain basically the pistons upstairs fire. And for example,
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: I actually don't think CJ scored that well in that either,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: so it kind of discredits that. A couple of years ago,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: brock Purty it was like the highest score ever. And
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: when you watch him play for the forty nine ers, like, damn,
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: this guy makes pretty quick decisions, So it's it's a balance.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: I think personally, standardized tests are always overrated, but when
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: you compare them to the history of the league, like
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: a lot of guys, there is some consistency of a
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: lot of guys scored that are good players at a certain level.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: When I was in high school and I took the ACT,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I ended up being awesome at it and helped me
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: get into college and have scholarships. But I also learned
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: how to take the test. Just like when these guys
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: will do a pro day and they do it in
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: their environment, they learn how to get better at doing
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: this drill. Can they do that not only with the
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: physical part, but can they take versions of this test
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: as well and get better at all of that to
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: kind of boost what these scouts are seeing when they're
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: either having a pro day where they are or going
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: to the combine or taking the test, Yeah, for sure.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: I mean that's what they spend their entire offseason, kind
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: of dialing in how to run the fastest forty, how
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: to score the best on the test, how to prepare
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: for all these things that ultimately don't matter on Sunday, right,
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: No different than college football. You're spending all week if
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: you're Alabama or Georgia this week getting ready for the game. Right,
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: it's not about training on your you know, to run
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: a forty or how many bench press reps you can do.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: So I think the best teams And it's hard because
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: at the time it feels like a really big deal
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: do a good job of not I would say overinflating
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: the importance of all that stuff, Like, ultimately, you are
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: drafting this guy, signing this guy to play games, and
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: if he's good at playing in the games, assuming you
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: know he's a good guy, because sometimes if he's not
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: a good guy, even if he's a good player, can
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: be a major pain in the butt. Just like in
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: any organization, right, if you had a guy who's productive
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: at what they do, but they are not a good person,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: it's gonna wear on everyone around them. So you got
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: a factor. That's where the character stuff. To me, it's
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: the play the character and then kind of everything else
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: a second, because if you have if you're a good
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: player and high character, good work at the guy, it's
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: gonna be hard for you not to be just consistently
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: good for a while, you know, God permitting you get
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: injured or whatever. Which is a big part of football.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: But I think that's what you bet on the play
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: and the person.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: There was always a scale.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: And I've been married for a couple of years now,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: but you know, the hotter she is, the crazier she
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: could be. So yeah, if the better player you are
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: the worst character you can have, is it a similar
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: type scale.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: I think Doc Rivers I heard him say this a
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: long time ago. The moment your your problems outweigh your play,
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: you're done. And you know, historically, let's say, I mean,
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: let's be real, football has had a lot of crazies
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: that have been really good players and they get more chances.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: So it's it's just I would say, it's kind of
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: the way the world works, right. If you're the biggest
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: asshole in the building, but you're the number one sales
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: guy by a mile, they're not gonna get rid of you.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: You know, if you're scoring twelve touchdowns a year and
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: you're Antonio Brown or Terrell Owens, they're going to try
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: to figure a way out. I do think now though,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: it's easier to have a better idea because of social
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: media and the ability to like kind of see people's
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: true colors. It's just I mean, you're just constantly getting
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: updates on the way they think, the way they operate,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: which might have was obviously difficult ten twenty thirty years ago,
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: but I think teams put a lot of emphasis into
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: that now. I also think you got to balance out too,
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Like Jalen Carter, the big defensive lineman from Georgia last year,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: who was I would say a major red flag, and
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: that was before the incident happened after the parade, you know,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: when the people got killed in the car racing thing
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: and it turned out that he was in another car
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: and had left the scene. And then when the combine came,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Jalen Carter, who I think was widely viewed kind of
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: like years ago, I mean a long time ago now,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: like Warren sapp like the best player in this draft,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: but makes people a lot of had to leave the
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: combine and check himself into jail and that immediately freaks
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: everybody out. And he tumbled, you know. I mean a
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: lot of teams in the top ten, Atlanta, Detroit, Seattle
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: easily could have taken them and they and they did not.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: And now the one thing the Eagles had, I would
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: say they had a curveball that other teams didn't. They
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: had a lot of his college teammates, you know, Jordan Davis,
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, who's like Shaquille O'Neal on a football field,
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: is like his big brother. They have several other guys
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: from Georgia, and they felt good about the infrastructure to
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: be able to handle, you know, any potential problems. Also,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: I think you got to look at it and having
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: been around Philly and howie some people mature later and listen,
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's a big deal. It wasn't his like
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: he didn't drive the guy off the road, but that
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: was a situation that you know, in this day and age,
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: becomes a really really big deal. And uh, so far
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: so good. Now, part of I think, what other teams
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: that pass on these guys with the character stuff that
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: go we'll see wait and see, right, it's not anyone
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: can have one good year? Can he have a good career?
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Does he ever screw over the organization where you wake
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: up in the middle of the night and go, oh
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: my god in a situation and that's when you take
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: these flyers on really talented players because the only reason
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: you would do it is because he's elite, Because he's
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: awesome player, and you just you do everything humanly possible
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: to try to help him out. But the other thing
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: is once you get to the pros, like in college,
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Nick Saban or Kirby Smart can kind of control your
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: day for the most part, between class, workouts, cafeteria, just
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: being around you. In professional football, you get, especially if
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: you're on a winning team, you get Monday and Tuesday off.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: You get a lot of money in the bank account,
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: you get a lot of free time and a lot
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: of disposable incomes. So it's if you don't trust the guy.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: It's easy when it's Peyton Manning or Drew Brees. It's
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: a little more difficult when it's you know, a guy
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: that you know. I don't know. I could fly off
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: the rails fast.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Speaking of Peyton Manning, And if I give you a
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: few of these guys, and I'm just gonna do guys
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: that are my I won't say age, but guys I
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: was able to watch. So I'm gonna like leave off
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: some of the lways in Montana's although I saw them
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I was pretty young. But if I were to give
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: you Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck and Trevor Lawrence, and
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams as prospects because those first three I'd always
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: heard about.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: They can't miss prospects, and they weren't.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think you're seeing Trevor Lawrence now and
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: you're two really starting to be dynamic. Where does Caleb
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Williams rank in those with that total foursome.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: I'd put him last. I mean, to me, Peyton Manning
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: and Andrew Luck would be on a different level than
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: the other two guys. And I think Trevor was compared
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: to those guys. You know, he went to a program
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: that was like a rocket ship when he got there.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: And remember he showed up and they immediately benched the
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: other guy who had been starting, and Dabbo went all
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: in on him, and rightfully. So those guys are all huge,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: you know. I mean Andrew Luck was like six five,
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: two forties. I mean, Peyton got bigger as he got
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: older in terms of thickness, but he was tall, broad shoulders.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence, I think physically, just when you just look
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: at him, looks a little thinner than the other two guys,
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: but he's tall. Caleb Williams is not even six foot one,
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: So part to me of being a great prospect is
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: like size, you know, in football or basketball, like what
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: made Shack or Lebron like all time great prospects was
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: there or Kareem Abdulig. They're huge. I mean, ultimately, sports
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: is not played by little people. It's played by the
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Jalen Carters and the Bosas and these enormous people chasing you.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Caleb's an awesome prospect, but he's short relative to NFL quarterbacks,
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: not to society, you know. But he's got a good arm.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's a really good He's gonna go number
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: one overall. But I would I would have Peyton Manning
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: and Andrew Luck. I'd actually probably have Andrew Luck above
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Peyton Manning. I mean, be close. I'm just talking prospects
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: coming out of college, and I mean it'd be like
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: one A, one B. I'd have Trevor Lawrence as a
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: clear too, and I would I would not Hell. I
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: I'd have Matt Stafford as a better prospect coming out
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: of college than Caleb Williams.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Drake May bigger.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: You know, if you listen to what people say when
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: they never assigned anybody to it, They're like some of
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: the teams have Drake May over Caleb Williams on their board.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Is that true?
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: I think it was early in the season because of
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: size and because of the potential. He did not play
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: well the second half of the year when they started
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: playing better teams. I mean, every time I'd look up,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: they're losing, he's throwing picks. I watched them lose some
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: terrible games. I mean North Carolina kind of fell apart
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: down the stretch and it's not all his fault, but
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: I do think he had a chance to kind of
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: run away with it as Caleb was imploding, and he
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: just didn't. So I would feel pretty confident saying unless
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: something you know off the field were to happen, that
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: Caleb Williams will be the number one pick in the draft.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: So I want to throw a few players at you
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: and tell me what strikes you about them, specifically as
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: someone who not only comments on people now, but you've scouted,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: like you've been deep inside of it. But if I
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: were to say something like Micah Parsons, like what am
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I missing that you see about Michael Parsons that makes
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: him so freaking awesome?
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: I think the best part of good defensive linemen is effort.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: You know it sounds so basic, right, It's like size, strength,
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: ability to run and bend. But like the best players,
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: I would say, historically on defense play the hardest. And
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: it's just it's it's easy for bigger players. I learned
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: this when I was in the NFL, and I think
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: it's just true in life. Right, if you're three hundred pounds,
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: you're gonna get tired faster than a guy that weighs
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: a hundred and finety pounds. So is it being lazy
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: or is it like legitimately just a little fatigue. So
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: it's hard to go balls to the wall every play,
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: But I think Aaron Donald for a long time JJ Watt,
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: it's just like every play they're relentless, and I think
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: that's what you know. Definitely, Micah Parsons brings now he has,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: you know, elite speed, elite ability to bend instincts as
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: a player. But I would just say his motor, and
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: I would say most of the top players at that position, TJ. Watt,
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: Miles Garrett, nick Bosa playing hard, mince It's not the
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: first thing anyone just sitting there over beers would talk about.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: You know, it's like basic pee wee football, like just
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: play hard.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: It's like when they teach a eighth grade basketball, but
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: even at the highest level, like do you play the hardest?
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: And I think it gets back to most great players
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: on defense, whether it's Ray Lewis, especially in the front
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: right defensive line or linebackers right now, Fred Warner for
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: the forty nine ers, like every play is balls of
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: the wall, and if you're a bigger guy, you have
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: to work extra hard on your conditioning. Obviously, the smaller
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: you are, dB or corner or safety, they're just I mean,
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: they could probably run all day and not get tired,
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: but it's still playing hard as a skill. What about
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts, I would say he's become one of my
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: favorite players in the league because I respect like his maturity.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: He does not celebrate after he wins, throws touchdowns. His
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: coach is a maniac, always going nuts and screaming at
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: the crowd. Jalen is a complete opposite. Like he smiles.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: You look at him when they hit the game winning
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: field goal, when they lose a Super Bowl, when he
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: walk off touchdown, when he throws an eighty r touchdown.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: He is just serious as a heart attack. He's like
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: a trained robot that Nick Saban. Ironically, he had to
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: leave Nick because he got bench for Tua like molded,
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: and he's even talked about it, Like me and Nick
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: have a lot in common, right, and they are serious cats.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think he's got the wiring of like
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: a Drew Brees paid Manning Tom Brady in terms of
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: like this is not a joke like that, none of
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: this he's taking it to this is a child's game.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: I make a lot of money, but I take this
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: as serious as anyone takes their job in any walk
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: of life. And you just see his face. He is
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: not messing around. And he also has I would say
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: a characteristic that makes great players, that make successful people
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: is like unfazed by failure, Like because he can. You
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: can watch him, You're like, god, he looks terrible, and
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: then the game keeps going and by the end he's
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: got five touchdowns. You're like, how the hell did he
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: do this? And his mental fortitude is elite, I mean
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: elite now. And I don't know how much you watched
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: him in college, like especially once he went to Oklahoma.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: It's like, this guy's like a running back. This guy's
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: not gonna be an NFL quarterback and he and even
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: if you watch him early on with the Eagles when
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: he kind of wally pipped, you know, Carson wentz like,
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: I don't know, this is not gonna work. I don't
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: think any player that I've ever seen has gotten better
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: faster than Jalen Hurts. It's crazy because even Josh Allen,
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: who has improved a lot over his career, was the
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: seventh overall pick. So, I mean, they thought he was
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: gonna be pretty this guy. A lot of people are like,
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: got the Eagles took him in the second round. That's crazy.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: And he and now you watch him, You're like, how
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: many guys would you want over him? Not many?
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Final three questions? And I want to do the Frank Reich.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: We spent time with Frank Reich, and we spent time
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: with I mean, we lived to Carolina. I spent time
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: with you know, Bryce and Frank Reich. I loved him,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Like I left going like, that's a dude I want
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: to play for you look at who he's coached, how
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: he's coached and is it just the Panthers owner that's
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: too much of a meddler? Would you have moved on
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: from him at this point, What are your thoughts on that.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Frank personally, I know a lot of
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: people that do listen. No one has ever said a
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: bit terse word about the guy right character, elite person
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: I do think sometimes in football, you know, you kind
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: of got to be a hard ass. And I do
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: wonder if some of his scars in Indianapolis have just
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: thrown him off. You know, he went through a lot,
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: They had a different quarterback every single year. You know,
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: maybe looking back, if you could ask him, like, should
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: I have taken just a year off decompress a little bit?
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: I jumped right back in. I got obviously offered a
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: lot of money. I love Bryce in college. How'd you not?
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: I mean that game in the National Championship a couple
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: of years ago against Georgia when Metchi and Jamison Williams
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: were injured and he was playing with like me and
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: you out there and he was getting peppered, and they
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: were just NFL players ever everywhere, and he just kept
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: getting up. I'm like, God, this is one of the
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: grittiest performances I've ever seen, So I thought he was
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: gonna be when you do watch him in an NFL
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: you know, uniform around NF he does. He's the smallest
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: player I've ever seen. I mean, he's time. It's one
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: thing to be short, Kyler short. He looks like he
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: weighs one hundred and sixty pounds, and you just wonder like,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: how is this going to work? And the other thing
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: is the owner is a maniac, right, he's just got
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: unlimited money. He's I mean, it's hard to hire a
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: coach a lot like drafting a player. There's a lot
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: of unknown Even though with Frank you had a resume,
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: he had been a head coach before. I have a
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: hard time blaming him, Like it was clearly becoming a disaster.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: And you also wonder there there was this viral moment
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: last year when Josh McCown, whom you probably saw him
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: when you were there too, who's got just great hair,
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: was talking to c J. Stroud after the Pro day
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: and he basically said something like, we got to find
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: you a place to live or something. And I do
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: wonder if the coaches because you look at CJ. CJ.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: You watch him play like Trevor Lawrence last week, like
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: he looks the part. Obviously he's really good. He just
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: looks like an NFL quarterback. Did the coaching staff, who
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: is full of former players Josh do Staley, Frank Wright,
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: did they want c. J. Stroud and the owner forced
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: them to take Bryce because the moment that happens in football,
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: you get a division and it can get weird fast.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: And when you watch the Panthers play, I'd be lying
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: if I said I watched much of them play, but
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: they look like people that were not all on the
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: same page. And I even saw this morning, Tepper must
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: have talked saying that like he's all in on Price.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: So if you want to get that job, Bobby, if
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: you're gonna interview for the Carolina Panthers, you better tell
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: him I'm all in on and it goes Hey.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: John went back to being a scout. Like when you
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: when you're a scout and you find someone that's really awesome,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: or you find a bunch of players, you just get
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: clout that you're like the guy that finds some good prospects.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Do you get a lot of praise for that or
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: is it just kind of that's part of your job, man,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Like that's what you do. Like, thank you, We'll take
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: it from here.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, in my experience is kind of the ladder. But
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: I think the longer you do it, the older you get,
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: especially when you start getting ingrained. If you've been in
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: an organization long, like if you work with the Cowboys
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: and Jerry knows you, they trust you, right, you have
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: a track record. So when you come to them, like
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you, we need to be all over this
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: guy on draft day, like in the fourth round or
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: a free agent. If you go to bat four and
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: then it works, it just you know, gains you a
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: lot of juice within the organization with your GM, with
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: your coach, and with your owner. So I think the
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: key is just over a period of time proven to
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: the people that the decision makers that when you you know,
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: anyone can say like I love this guy, and you
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: got to be careful about you know, when we talk
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: about players at a bar or a podcast or whatever,
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: it doesn't really matter when you hype guys up or not.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: But in a football room, you can't just walk in
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: and say, Caleb's the best player I've ever seen to
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: look at you and say, why prove it, right? I
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: mean it's not This isn't like a bar conversation. This
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: is like how these people feed their family. So when
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: you say I think this guy's an all pro in
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: a in a draft meeting, they're gonna say, well, why
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: was throwing the tape? Show me exactly, Let's compare them.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: Let's bring up five other guys that are in the
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: NFL their college tape and compare them. So it gets
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: very serious that way, and you kind of learn to
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: not pick your spots, but you better have a lot
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: of conviction when you're going to kind of go all in.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Like if I if I say, hey, you know so
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: and so is going to be the next country music star,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: and then he's not any good. People like this guy
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: doesn't know what he's talking about. But if I told
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: you about Morgan Walling, Jason Aldan and John Party, people
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: are like, got this guy, This guy can pick him right.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: This guy knew about these guys back in the day.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: So it kind of brings you some more gravitas, specifically
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: your owner, because they love if you can find guys
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: later in the draft. It's cheap labor, right, you get
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: the guy on a cheap like bruck Purty whoever was
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: paying the table. The people in the forty nine ers
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: organization are like.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, this guy, we need to listen to him more often.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Probably different guy than Trey Lance, the table banker.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that guy is probably you know, keep his head down.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: But also there's an element you're allowed to screw up
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: right now. Some screw ups when you lose, cost you
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: your job. And that's the difference. I would say in football,
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: probably no different than business. If you're making money, Like,
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: if you're losing money, everyone's kind of looking around. If
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: everyone's making money, everything's good, even the mistakes when you're winning,
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: like Trey Lance didn't cost the forty nine ers anything, right,
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: they went to two NFC championships. They're good again this year.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: They got lucky. Usually that move, like if Bryce sucks,
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: the next coach with Carolina is probably gonna be in
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: trouble too. It's just it's just a fact. Like last
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: year when they traded for Russell, Wilson Hacke against the
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: job and Russell. I mean he might have been overshead
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: or whatever. But if Russell had been good, maybe they're
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: not a twelve one team, but they're winning nine games,
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: and it's he's probably not fired. So it's you know,
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: football is such a black and white sport, like you
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: win or you lose. And when you win, win, everyone's happy,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: even if you didn't play well, right, And if you lose,
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: even if you play well, cowboys, think about them, right,
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: they played great against the Eagles, but they lost, So
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: it sucks.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Three and Out one of my favorite podcasts, and I
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: stumbled across it. I didn't you know, no one's saying, hey,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: talk about how good it is. I literally was listening
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: and told my guy, is any way we can get
• 39:48
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• 39:50
  Speaker 2: of how you do your show, what you talk about.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I encourage everybody to check out Three and Out with
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: John Mittlecoff. And then I'm gonna ask the final question
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: and no context whatsoever. All I wants an answer with
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: no content at all, no reasoning. Who's winning the Super
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Bowl this year?
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go forty nine ers?
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, there it is the end. Not letting me even
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: talk about it.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Just pick it.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I just want to picking it and we're moving. Hey, John, seriously,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: this has been Bobby. Can I ask you a question?
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: No, okay, you gotta give contacts. Okay, ask me a question.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: I'm ready.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: Who's winning the National Championship this year? Man?
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I would.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna put a future on Alabama today. They're gonna
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: need a couple of things to happen. And I've been
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: saying this for the last few weeks. I think it's
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: gonna be Georgia unless Alabama is able to beat them
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: in the SEC Championship. I'm an SC homer for sure,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: no doubt about it. I'm biased. However, God dang fourth
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: and thirty one fourth in goal Milroe comes up with
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: that throw against Auburn. It's like some things are destined
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: to happen. And if there is a team that I
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: feel like can can be there because they've always been
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: there and they know how to do it, it's whatever
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: team Nick Saban's coaching. So I'm gonna I'm gonna say Alabama.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Georgia, But then Alabama, you want to
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: I saw a good stat yesterday. Kirby Smart has more
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: National chanchampionships than he does times that he's beat Nick Saban.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: He's beat Nick Saban one time. Now it was for
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: the it was for it all. Yeah, it was for
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: the national championship.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: But everyone in you know where you live, the SEC country,
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: Nick Saban has owned them. Nick Saban is owned him.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Eban owns me.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I just as maybe I'd be like you, sir. Certain
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: next thing, John, Thank you for your time, man, big fan.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Hope you have a great day.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Thanks, Bobby, appreciate you.
• 41:23
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• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: Sure, And here's how it's gonna work. Everybody's picking five games.
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  Speaker 2: Whoever hits the lowest amount correct gets eliminated from winning
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  Speaker 3: All right, so we each.
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  Speaker 6: We'll do snake huh.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: But between college and NFL.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just because the championship weekend there's not that
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: many called. You picked the other side of it. You
• 43:02
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• 43:03
  Speaker 3: You can also pick over unders. That's right, no money lines,
• 43:07
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• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Don't know what two over unders are. Let's skip out
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: on that.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: This will be snake draft. Does anyone want to go first?
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go first, all right.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: So Eddie you'll go first, and they'll go Eddie, Kevin
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: me read and read me Kevin, Eddie five rounds. Hold on,
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: I got a log into my account. Do you guys
• 43:29
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• 43:32
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• 43:33
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• 43:35
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  Speaker 3: They did.
• 43:39
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• 43:44
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• 43:47
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  Speaker 4: I know.
• 43:49
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• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, oh man, here we go.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Bo Okay, everybody gets five picks and we're gonna go
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: with Eddie first. Eddie, you give me it could be
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: college or NFL. No Thursday night because that was last
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: night and no Monday night.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Correct. Okay, go ahead, My first pick in the draft
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: bones is going to be NFL. I'm taking the Chiefs
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: minus six over the Packers. That's my solid Write.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: That down, you guys.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Oh god, that scared me.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Who's keeping up with it?
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, Kevin's got it?
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: Okay, Kevin, Yes, I am going to go with I'm
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: gonna stay in the NFL. You know what the Titans are?
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: I think seven and zero at home. Let's go to
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: Titans plus one against Colts.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: Will you email this out to us?
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Here my turn, I'm going Alabama plus five and a half.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: I gets Georgia in the SEC Championship.
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: Reid, I'm gonna go Dolphins minus nine and a half
• 44:58
  Speaker 7: against the Commanders.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Solid one.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: All right, read now you'll be the first pick of
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: the second round.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: Okay, cool, all right, let's see I will go mmm
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: mmmm forty nine ers minus three against you.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Do you like that, Eddie? Forty nine ers minus three
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: against the Eagles?
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: I mean I didn't want to touch that game at all.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: It will be funny as if I didn't win, if
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: I not go Georgia minus five, so at least get one.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Right, you can't do that. That game's done right.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Somebody else can pick Georgia minus five. I just can't.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, I scratched out the whole game.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, you just can't pick what I picked.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Dang dang, Okay, yeah, you can't.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Pick what I picked, but that would be funny.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Huh.
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: So you took out the Alabama plus five enough?
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: No, no, Reed took. Oh he took, he took, Eagles took.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god. Hey, you're like the
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: person that the eel's being go and they're like, what
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: are thirteen?
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: What happened was I scratched out the entire game. So
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: now I just need to go back and do need
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: and fix that.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go Oklahoma State plus fifteen the Big
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: twelve championship.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Oh call the take My god, that's scary plus fifteen, Kevin.
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Georgia minus five and
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: a half.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, I almost picked that.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Eddie man, I'm gonna go Washington plus nine and a
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: half against Oregon, and I took Oregon.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: I think do I take organ or No? No, one't
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: touched that one. Got it, gotta got it? Read your up?
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Who uh? Who picked the Titans or is that a
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: snake on me?
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: Did you do Titans?
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: No?
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Your first read?
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Oh wait it is on me?
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, first yeah, sorry, okay, Eddie snake on you.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: I put my snake on you.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Guys. Guys, be patient, man, patient.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: It's around three, right.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, give me NFL. I'm going Broncos plus
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: three and a half. I thought i'd ever seen that.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: V.
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: What do they play? But who are they playing?
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: V Texans got it.
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with let's do Michigan minus twenty one
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: and a half.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: I have no idea picking big game.
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: I like that. I like that.
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: I know what we're here.
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: Okay, Kevin, did you do Titans plus one or minus one?
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: I did, but Bobby's up?
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Oh never mind the sorry backing out as a patient man,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: patient man backing out.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I'm going Jags minus three at Cleveland Jacksonville, NFL minus
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: three at Cleveland.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Where are they? I don't have that one. I don't
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: know what you're looking at. Man.
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: Don't they play Monday Night against the Tangles.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: It's literally like when you play being going my Oh
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: I scrolled down the wrong way.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I have to throw a b Oh you don't have
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: the sheet?
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: No making me a shot?
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: Maybe it's in my path, Yeah it's in the back.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah dude, oh how about that?
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I look at that. Take back that.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: Look unlock it.
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: But you were fine with the other games.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: That's opened up here. I hit the wrong button. It
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: dropped on the one. Okay, okay, I'm gonna go.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Two Late minus three and a half playing s M
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: that was in my hot Yeah, all right, read.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go Washington plus nine and a half.
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: He already that, he already has it.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Sorry, m hm hm.
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: Does anybody have Saints plus four?
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: No, I'm that do not.
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: You're playing Lions.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: To read again.
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: Let's see. God, I'm gonna go Rams plus three and
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: a half. You say we with the plague against the Browns?
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Is that back to me?
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: No, that's back to you by Yeah, what round is
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: this though?
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: I've had three, so this will be your four.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go Oregon Washington over sixty five and
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: a half.
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: Dang it, lang it.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, you like that over under.
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: I was just about to pick that over under.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: Oregon and Washington over sixty five point five.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: Okay, you know what, Let's go Cards Louisville, mess it
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: all up plus two and a half.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I like it. I'll take the other side of that.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I'll take Florida State minus two and a half.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: I love heads up, heads up Zippini.
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: M And then there's the last round.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Last one. Let's go Liberty Flames minus eleven against New
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Mexico stated, I'm gonna go.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, the citty, the sitting things screwed us up.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: We shouldn't have.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: Started with Eddie.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: What do you mean I offered to go first. I
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: know it's it's something we're sitting in a where to order.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: I should have moved this around for this stupid thing.
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: Alright, boys and girls.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: Really built that up for nothing.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Oh Patriots, dude's wide open right Therefore.
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: That's why I said, let's go. All right, that's what
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: I'm going with. Yep, minus six Patriots minus six against Chargers.
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: I don't think I think Patrick's or plus six or
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: plus six. I'm sorry, Yeah, you're no, he said it.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go UNLV plus two and a half as
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: they play boy Z State.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: It was in Reid's parley, never picked them. That's the
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Midwestern Conference in Western Championship.
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: Shut up, guys.
• 51:20
  Speaker 7: Mmmm.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: He makes a lot of noises over here.
• 51:25
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna go under fifty five with Texas against Oklahoma State. A.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: Right, they're not big scores all five of our rounds.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: So if we didn't say this at the beginning, well
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: count all of our picks and whomever finishes in the
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: last place is out.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: The other three survive.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: We're playing for the bucket of money the broken promises
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: jar over two hundred bucks in there.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: If there's a tie for a last place, they're both out. No, sorry,
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: what are you gonna say?
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: I was gonna say, we do the Monday night game.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting, Monday night.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, if there's a tie for last place, we do
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: the Monday night game.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: But who would pick first? Flip a coin?
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: You both just write your answer down of all the bets,
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: and then if they don't match, you use them.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: If they do match, we.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Go to another bet of that night.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: So that's what we'll do.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: It'll we equal put in your bet, write it down
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: like minus two plus over under whatever it is, and
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: then cool.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: All right, So that's it.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Ver good, Yeah, feeling good, feeling good?
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Yea for all the money in the world.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Boom, what do we just do? That was the weirdest thing.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: That's the weirdest thing I've ever done.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: Arkansas beats Duke. That was awesome.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Oh dude, what a great game.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty good.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: And you know what. My ten year old like, he
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: was about to go to bed and I was like, Hey,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: who's who should I bet on this one? He's like,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Arkansas is gonna win this. Dad. I was like, no,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: I'm serious, Like should we should we just bet Duke.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: He's like no, I'm telling you, Arkansas's gonna win this.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Last night, my wife called and our mailbox is not
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: right at our house. You gonna walk down the street.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: And I was watching the game and working on the
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: radio show. She called me to the part of like
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: back in the bedroom, Hey, what's up? Just yell what
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: she called? She goes, hey, I just got a call.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: I was like, what what up? She goes, you're watching
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: the game. So yeah, because she got a call from somebody.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's a scammer. They said that if
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: you walk down and got the mail, Arkansas would win.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: And I was like really, She's like yeah. She said
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: there are like five Amazon packages in there, and that
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: whoever you just called me said Arkansas went.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: If you would give me that mail?
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: And I was like wow, I said.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: You're sure?
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: That's not a scammer, she said, yeah, So I went down,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: I got all the mail, brought back up Arcans one.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: They were telling them the truth.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Amazing, dude, Wow, you should do that more often. You
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: should go get her mail.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Well, if it depends that they call her. Yeah, and
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: I knew that it was all a trick because I'm
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: not four.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: What do you mean it wasn't a trick.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: However, just in case it wasn't, what are they gonna
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: jinx it?
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: You need to get packages delivered every Arkansas game?
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Not even that. If she just says, hey, guess what
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: if you're on my feet, Arkansas is gonna win.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Boom, I'll do it.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: I'll do it as long as they keep winning whenever
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: she says, whatever it is. But the first time she
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: does it and they lose, it's all over. So but
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: better for her to do would be, hey, if you
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: cook me dinner. I don't think Arkansas loses.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: You just want to like.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Think do My favorite thing of the game last night
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: was the end when they all rushed the court and
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: the announcers like, everyone, please stay off the court, and
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: then immediately goes all right, that's an Arkansas victory.
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: I give up.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: They were yelling Bobby.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: I heard that.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: During the game, and my sister in law, Grace, who's
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Caitlin's sister, mess with me.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: She thought I was there until she realized there's some other.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Guy named Bobby. They were yelling as by Patrina.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Of course, bye Patria, Yes patri Yes, you know.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: The Panthers can still make playf No, they're one in ten,
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: but that division is so bad. The Falcons in the
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Saints are tied for the best record at five and six.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: There are four games. There are four games back. Because
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: they've got to win all those four It doesn't matter.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: I'm just still saying they're still in it.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: At one and ten, they've got to win poor games.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: But yes, definitely more than that.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Because they're at eleven, there's seventeen games or eighteen weeks.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: Oh so they have six games left. They go on
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: a little streak here.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: I just think it's hilarious.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: They have a three point eight percent chance to make
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: the playoffs heading into the weekend at.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: One in ten.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: At one in ten, wild Mark Cuban selling a majority
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: of the Mavericks also getting off shark Take is giving
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: up online well, so what did you think, because I
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: had a thought as soon as I heard he was
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: quitting Shark tak In and sell the team.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: What do you think? I just thought, he I mean
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: that's like just retired, done done, retire like cash in
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: my chips. Just kind of what I thought.
• 55:52
  Speaker 6: You well, because of your change's most ownership though, like.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: He still he gets to do it, but he doesn't.
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: But he doesn't he gets on the book because I guess.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: No, No, he gets to have control, but he doesn't own.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: He'll have a low loaner, but the ownership is going
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: to those guys owned the casinos, like they're gonna have
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: an Yeah, they're gonna have a majority ownership.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: But he still gets to be the guy.
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: So then yeah, I guess, like like Eddie, then it's
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: like retiring, but you still get the dabblin little he's.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Still owning, he's still doing his work. Weird, but he's
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: quite Yeah. I thought he's probably gonna die or something.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: Oh you think he's sick well, because he's getting off
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Shark Tank. He's no, I don't know this, I have
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: no I heard uh Bill Simmons, I think say he
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: thought when he heard it, maybe it was Bill Simmons
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: that he thought there's a scandal coming.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Interesting, so he's unloaded.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: Maybe it wasn't Bill Simmons. I forget who it was.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: I think Colin Cowhart said he thinks he's gonna run
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: for president. I thought it was interesting.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that one.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: There are all these ideas. I don't know.
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: There's no way he retires though, retiring like there's no way,
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: like he needs to that guy needs to do something,
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: but he is.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Going to continue being part of that ownership. Yeah, so
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: he's not retiring.
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: He can never leave there.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: But that's interesting.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Huh.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: Mark cubans both of those at the same time.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: If one or the other, I would go, well, shark
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: take I'm like, Okay, he's just bored. He's done it
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: for a hundred years. Yeah, but selling a team I
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: was pretty surprised by.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so what do you believe more?
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: I thought he was dying. I mean that's what I thought.
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: Ye kind of like when Steve Jobs retired.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: I thought he was like gonna go and enjoy the
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: rest of his life because he's dying and he's gonna
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: go spend time with it.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know this happened.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Zero reason to think this except the factors that lead
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: me to believe it.
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: He still looks good a Mark, he was awesome.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: He's also doing a lot of interviews now in a
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: lot of places, like I see him on certain podcasts
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: and stuff, and I'm wondering that gives them to me
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: a little bit credibility that he running for president.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: Question. They do a lot of publicity, but not to
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: be president.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: You don't have to get rid of your businesses to
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: be president, right.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: No, but you can't run them. They have to go
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: to a trust.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: But then then he's still running the map.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: He's still gonna be it doesn't own them.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see scam. It would be nuts, though, Yeah,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: that'd be crazy like Lucas like watch me Pee could
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: take them down. All right.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: I think that's it. Is there anything else? Oh? I
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: know what it was?
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: No, I think I said that to you, Mike, that
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: that was the playoff thing, right, yep? Okay, okay, Well,
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: rock and roll hoochiqu I guess let's.
• 58:21
  Speaker 6: Go baby, rock and roll hoochiq pa.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: The boys start basketball this weekend. I'm excited about that.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Their first basketball.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: Game any even playing the same team.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: No, they're all just too different in age.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: They play the same league, any of them, so you
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: can go watch both in the same building.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: The two middle ones playing in the same league. But
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: I mean one of them plays that noon, the other
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: one plays at four.
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: Oh my god, they need an assistant coach or no
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: speaking which.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Let me end on this. I like Kevin that you're
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: a Tennessee fan.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: They're a local team, the same way.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: That I would wear maybe a Titan sweatshirt. I love
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: going occasionally.
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: Uh huh.
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: You do live here, you do like the balls, You
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: do go to the game.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: You're casual, a little more than a casual fan of
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: the Valls. You're in freaking orange and avall shirt, a
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: sweater that just the riding on it. You're all valled out.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: He's wearing orange for someone You're not that vall.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: It's too val.
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: This is too vaal.
• 59:24
  Speaker 6: Yes, okay, Well, what we're.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Learning about you, Kevin a little bit is that you're
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: from California and you love the Celtics, you love the Patriots,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: you love where you're not. But now you're in Tennessee
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: and you're like, whoa, why not love the ball?
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: I need a local team.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: I think that's it. See, oh I don't. I think
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: you just are trying to attach to anything.
• 59:47
  Speaker 6: No, this doesn't have to do with anything like are.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: You dating someone that.
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: Was aggressive?
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: No, No, this doesn't have to do with anything Valved.
• 59:58
  Speaker 6: It's just it's an now fit.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: It's his balls.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: That's like me if I come in and I have
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: a big Duke sweatshirt on the big blue Devil that
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: would be weird, and then a random blue hat that
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: happens to match it, and I'm like, what's up, man,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: it's just blue Devil because I know your whole thing
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: screams team.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 6: Oh okay either. I just think it matches, so why not?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: It does match? Yeah?
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: Are you a balls fan?
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: But you're so val you're in ball colors all of
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: the matches about the balls? Well, see what I wearing
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: all those colors? They did say balls across your chest.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 6: Huh.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: It looks like you're just really going hard at being
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: a balls fan. If you're saying you're not it was
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: the outfit they're good, then then hey, far be it
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: from us to judge.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 6: It has nothing to do with being a hardcore. I'm
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 6: a casual balls fan.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: It does not look like that.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: You don't have a college team.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 6: No, I root Foreralls, but I'm not like yeah, but
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: when you look at him, what do you see?
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Falls freaking die hard. This guy's been loving the Balls
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: for one hundred years. His dad loved the balls. His
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: dad's dad love the Bulls. Got all. He's more of
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: a beanie that's all over orange, a black shirt.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: I wear beanie one time.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: No, it's not that.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: I've worn this numerous times.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: With the orange. It's too much.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: If you were a legitimate if Eddie came into that
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: stating if as a cowboys, then we'd be like, oh,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: that's Eddie. That's the perfect amount of cowboys for how
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: big a fan Eddie is. If I came in in
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Arkansas starter jacket with a big hog head on, you'd
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: be like, Oh, that's normal. He loves them that much.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: You come in freaking wearing the mascot costume. You're like, what, man,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: it's casual Monday.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: I think you guys are overthinking this. I don't think
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: I didn't overthink it. I just thought it looking at you.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Why don't you just just admit it. You're a Bolls fan, You're.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 6: A die hard.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: We are generation.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: We are in the new generation starts.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: Now, there you go.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: What about that tattoo you told me about.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah that's for later.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. We will see you guys next week.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Good luck on your picks, everybody, that's it's only.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Me exactly, yes, ad Mike anything, that's it?
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: Eddie blows out, I got you, bye about
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: It, mum hm