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Guys We F*cked, Kylie’s Baby and Housewife Malfunctions · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald, Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Kylie and Travis, they shared a cute video, Kylie did,
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  Speaker 1: of kind of her pregnancy video for her new baby boy,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Stormy's little brother. Very sweet. Everyone loved the
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  Speaker 1: YouTube video. It went crazy. Shortly after that, she posted
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  Speaker 1: on her stories, FYI, our son's name isn't Wolf anymore,
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  Speaker 1: but So when the baby was born on February 2nd, 2022,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think, I'm guessing, I mean, that's a
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  Speaker 1: pretty great number. I'm guessing maybe she was slightly induced.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. That was pretty lucky. But anyway, not
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  Speaker 1: saying that she was, but very lucky to get that date.
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people want to get married
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  Speaker 1: on that date and have their kid born on that date.
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  Speaker 1: But she said in February. she announced Wolf Webster, which
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  Speaker 1: is Travis's last name. But anyway, now she said, FYI,
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  Speaker 1: our son's name isn't Wolf anymore. We just really don't
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  Speaker 1: feel like it was him. Just wanted to share because
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  Speaker 1: I keep seeing Wolf everywhere. Prayer hands for all the
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  Speaker 1: wolves out there. We don't know what his name is.
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  Speaker 1: We do not know. We're waiting for the announcements. I
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  Speaker 1: just want to know, did they put it on the
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  Speaker 1: birth certificate and then get home and just felt like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, he's not a wolf. He's a coyote. No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what they named him. So anyway, that'll
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  Speaker 1: be exciting. You know what I think we're going to
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  Speaker 1: know when he's named? The premiere of their new show
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  Speaker 1: on Hulu. It's about a week and a half away.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's like April 8th or something. So I
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  Speaker 1: think we're going to know then. A lot of speculation.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people try to figure it out. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: there'll be some clues. Maybe there's some hints. Maybe we'll
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  Speaker 1: see a flash of a long nail that has something
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  Speaker 1: written on it and someone screenshots it. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll see. But it's not Wolf, okay? So don't
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  Speaker 1: call him Wolf. All right, Real Housewives of New Jersey,
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  Speaker 1: The Sun is reporting that Teresa's fiancé, the love of
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  Speaker 1: her life, who she's going to marry, is being sued. Well,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people get sued. So here's the story
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  Speaker 1: because I just read it. Supposedly, they're saying that Louis
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  Speaker 1: and his business partner owe this other company $ 113, 000. which
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  Speaker 1: they did not pay of produce that they received for
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  Speaker 1: their company called Produce Depot. They got 113,000 pineapples for Teresa's,
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  Speaker 1: because he likes pineapples, my pineapple party. No, I just
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  Speaker 1: thought it was funny that I did not realize that
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  Speaker 1: one of his businesses was Produce Depot, and she was
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  Speaker 1: so into fruit and pineapples. So he apparently, according to
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  Speaker 1: the lawsuit, they said, This money was due. He didn't pay.
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  Speaker 1: He and his partner are the controlling people. He and
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  Speaker 1: his attorneys fired back and said, we're not the controlling
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  Speaker 1: people of this company. We already ate all the pineapple
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  Speaker 1: and we filed for bankruptcy for a million dollars worth
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  Speaker 1: of bankruptcy like a year ago. So good luck ever
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  Speaker 1: getting it. And that's the end of that. I mean, listen.
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  Speaker 1: Anything that happened with this guy, people are going to
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  Speaker 1: write articles and they're going to put them out on
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  Speaker 1: the day that the show airs, which is on Tuesdays.
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  Speaker 1: But she did say on Watch My Albums Live she's
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  Speaker 1: getting married. And she said that Melissa, her sister-in-law, will
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  Speaker 1: not be a bridesmaid. And so that stirred some controversy
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  Speaker 1: last week. Is Melissa sad about it? Melissa said, no,
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  Speaker 1: I don't care. It's fine. And I don't think anybody's
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  Speaker 1: dying to be a bridesmaid like second time around. Like
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  Speaker 1: once you are in your late thirties or older, I
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  Speaker 1: think you're like fine. Like just, Hey, let me just
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  Speaker 1: go to the wedding, wear a cute dress, get you
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  Speaker 1: a beautiful gift that gets sent to your house. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to bring it either. No one wants the
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  Speaker 1: gifts brought there. Well, who has a big enough car
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  Speaker 1: to bring it home from the, hi, you're all buzzed.
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  Speaker 4: You're just walking.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody. So you just send the gift and show up
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  Speaker 1: cute and you're good. So, No, you have the bridesmaids
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  Speaker 1: and all that stuff the first time around when you're young,
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  Speaker 1: unless you're getting remarried on a TV show. Then I say, yes,
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  Speaker 1: have all the bridesmaids so we can see them. I
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  Speaker 1: could see very much she having Melissa back. But you
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  Speaker 1: know what? Be authentic. If you're a little bit, if
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  Speaker 1: you and Melissa have always been like this, you don't
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  Speaker 1: want Melissa looking really great in her dress, strutting around.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want it to be the Melissa show. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: don't ask her. You already have four daughters. She really
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  Speaker 1: should just... This is it. Listen to me, Teresa. First
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  Speaker 1: of all, buy your pineapples from a normal store. Don't
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  Speaker 1: let Louie bring some pineapples that fell off a truck. Okay? Literally.
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  Speaker 1: Have the pineapples at your wedding from whatever, Whole Foods
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  Speaker 1: or something. Then just have your daughters be the bridesmaids.
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  Speaker 1: Don't have Jennifer or some old school friend from the neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: Just have your daughters. That's classy. They all wear... dresses
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  Speaker 1: that work for their body, but are the same color.
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  Speaker 1: And that's it. You don't even have a maid of honor.
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  Speaker 1: You just have all maids of honors and it's all
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  Speaker 1: your daughters and they're all equal. You don't make Gia
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  Speaker 1: the maid of honor. Just, yeah, bridesmaids, just all bridesmaids,
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  Speaker 1: no maid of honor. That's my advice to you. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: All right. TMZ has shared the photographs from the Ritz-Carlton
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  Speaker 1: room of where Bob Saget died. A lot of people
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  Speaker 1: are like, why is anyone talking about this? Why is
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  Speaker 1: TMZ reporting that? They're reporting, and I'm just going to
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  Speaker 1: put an end to this, because as you know, the
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  Speaker 1: family fought to not have any of the photos, autopsy photos,
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  Speaker 1: or crime, not crime, but the photos around him dying
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  Speaker 1: out there. But they did share just a clean room,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's his room, I guess it's
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  Speaker 1: his room, of the Ritz-Carlton in Orlando. And they have
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  Speaker 1: now closed the case and said it is this padded
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  Speaker 1: headboard that he hit his head on while getting into
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  Speaker 1: the bed and then he went to sleep. There was
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  Speaker 1: no external bleeding, only internal bleeding. And so now they say,
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  Speaker 1: we think the wound on his head that caused his
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  Speaker 1: death was from hitting Something that was soft on the outside,
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  Speaker 1: but harder inside. Meanwhile, there was another doctor that we
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  Speaker 1: heard about early on that said it looks like he
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  Speaker 1: fell from six feet or was hit with the back
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  Speaker 1: of a head with a baseball bat. Where's that guy?
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  Speaker 1: Has that guy and the guy that said, I think
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  Speaker 1: he hit his head on a padded headboard. Are these
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  Speaker 1: people in the same profession? Have they talked? I think
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  Speaker 1: the point is we're just never really going to know.
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  Speaker 1: But we do know he went in alone. We do
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  Speaker 1: know that when he arrived from driving from the club
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  Speaker 1: at 2 a.m., he seemed perfectly fine. There was no
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  Speaker 1: marks on his car. He didn't get a car accident.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't slurring. He wasn't acting weird. They didn't find
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  Speaker 1: anything weird in his system, any drugs. They didn't find
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  Speaker 1: anything in his room. At some point, he hit his head.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe they're saying it's the padded headboard because the
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  Speaker 1: Ritz-Carlton is a powerful place and And they don't want
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  Speaker 1: people to think that people are slipping and falling on
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  Speaker 1: the marble floor or the porcelain sink. Things that make
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  Speaker 1: more sense to having, like, and then waking up and
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  Speaker 1: going to bed. I don't know. I don't think we'll
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  Speaker 1: ever know. Rest in peace. Okay. We did The Bad
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  Speaker 1: Vegan on Tuesday. Talked about that show. Louis C.K. had
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  Speaker 1: dated the Sarma girl. And in 2019, there was an
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  Speaker 1: article written by Page Six that, so this was before,
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  Speaker 1: obviously before this Netflix show that came out last week,
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  Speaker 1: emails revealed that Louis C.K. may have given Sarma an STD.
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  Speaker 1: There's emails that were somehow, I don't know how they
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  Speaker 1: found it, maybe because she was, you know, facing trial
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  Speaker 1: at that time, that it was from 2012. They were dating.
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  Speaker 1: And they, it sounds to me like they had a
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  Speaker 1: one night stand and he, she's, he's like, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I gave you an STD.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: You should have made me wear a condom. And then
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  Speaker 1: he goes on to say, you know, at our age,
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  Speaker 1: isn't everybody kind of got everything? You know, the future
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  Speaker 1: generation will be having sex with glass penises and plastic vaginas,
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  Speaker 1: but we exchange bodily fluids. So, you know, hey, I
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  Speaker 1: think you're great. Sorry if it happened. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: She also dated her married attorney that was her defense attorney,
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  Speaker 1: who was also the attorney of like El Chapo or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: that big drug dealer. Anyway, those emails were revealed as well.
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  Speaker 1: I read that article and that was very sexual and
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  Speaker 1: like they were definitely getting on and he was married
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  Speaker 1: with two small kids. So, again, a lot more is
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  Speaker 1: being seen about this girl. I mean, she's quite, you know,
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  Speaker 1: she acted like in the Netflix doc that her only
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  Speaker 1: love of her life was her pit bull mix, Leon.
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  Speaker 1: And he was a cute dog, and I understand the
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  Speaker 1: love affair. But she also got around with people like
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  Speaker 1: Louis C.K., the weird guy that she married for his money,
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  Speaker 1: this show. you know, and now she's trying to act like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't like the way I was portrayed in this thing.
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  Speaker 1: You were portrayed exactly the way you were portrayed and
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  Speaker 1: this doesn't help. And I love that this info came out. Um, okay.
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  Speaker 1: So the conservative ship of Amanda Bynes is over. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's really great. And this started, Amanda Bynes
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  Speaker 1: was an actress. She was a little comedian, like she
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  Speaker 1: had that sketch show. She did all those like rom-com
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  Speaker 1: type stuff. Then she does have a heart tattoo on
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  Speaker 1: her face. Oh, I hope that, that she gets rid
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  Speaker 1: of that. But anyway, the conservatorship is done. I'd read
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  Speaker 1: prior to this being done that her mom was, her
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  Speaker 1: mom was for it being over with. And Let's see. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: I think she's going to just live a normal life.
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  Speaker 1: I'd be very surprised if we see her doing any
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  Speaker 1: kind of acting or anything. I think she was into fashion.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what she's going to do besides starting
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  Speaker 1: her own podcast, which she hasn't announced yet, but I
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  Speaker 1: plan on that happening. Amanda, if you want a podcast,
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  Speaker 1: why don't you come on my show? And we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about your life and, you know, where you are today.
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  Speaker 1: And then everyone will say, I never knew who you
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  Speaker 1: were until I heard you on Juicy Scoop. You should
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  Speaker 1: have your own podcast. And then you will. And then
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  Speaker 1: you'll hate doing it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Sex in the City, you guys, otherwise known as, and
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  Speaker 1: just like that, got a second season. And of course
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  Speaker 1: it was going to get a second season. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I would be so upset if it didn't. So, big news.
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  Speaker 1: Big news. I mean, we don't know where Che Diaz
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  Speaker 1: is going to be in this. Remember she left to
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  Speaker 1: LA to start, get her podcast, not her podcast, her pilot.
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  Speaker 1: She put the podcast on hold. Um, what's going to
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  Speaker 1: happen with that? I, I guess that we are not
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  Speaker 1: going to see much of Che Diaz, but we'll see,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think we'll have a, like a couple
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  Speaker 1: episodes of them breaking up and then Miranda coming back. Um,
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, it's going to happen. I'll do my predictions
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  Speaker 1: at my live show coming up with everybody. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to say my predictions for that for the second season.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, some people feel mixed about it. You don't
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  Speaker 1: have to watch it. Cancel it already. You don't have
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  Speaker 1: to watch it. Selling Sunset is coming back April 22nd.
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  Speaker 1: It's all the hottest models that somehow got their real
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  Speaker 1: estate license walking around modern homes and Can't wait. Real
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  Speaker 1: Housewives of Orange County celebrated their 16-year anniversary yesterday. That
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  Speaker 1: was the first episode of the show, and I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: people made a big deal out of it. Like I said, look,
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  Speaker 1: I have strong opinions about what I want for this show,
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  Speaker 1: how I feel it can be improved, what needs to go,
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  Speaker 1: what can stay, but I'll never stop watching. It sometimes
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  Speaker 1: takes me two to three days to get through an
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  Speaker 1: episode because I fall asleep. But I feel like it's
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  Speaker 1: still what I love. Aesthetically, I like to look at
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  Speaker 1: it and we just need to have a little more excitement.
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  Speaker 1: But God, I just look at this and I just
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  Speaker 1: remember the fact that no one had real, like no
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  Speaker 1: one had fake eyelashes, a lot of original teeth and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of movement in the forehead, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: sky tops. And I just, a lot of BB, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of BCBG, and I just, it just gives me chills.
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  Speaker 1: And they are the ones that created a lot of
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  Speaker 1: yellow hair. Remember when Vicki's mom said, well, it looks yellow.
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  Speaker 1: Rest in peace, Vicki's mom. And there's nothing better than
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: that music that they play at the final party. They don't,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: there's no other franchise that has that kind of music
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  Speaker 1: that is Oh, I can hear it right now. And
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  Speaker 1: every time it makes me sad. Oh my God. It
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  Speaker 1: would always be like an end of the summer party,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: end of the season. And they're all like, and then
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: it'll just write whatever sad things happening. You know, Laurie
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  Speaker 1: Peterson's son went back to rehab. She's still working on
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  Speaker 1: her happy place or like all, it was just such
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  Speaker 1: a different time. Cause they didn't really fight with each other. They,
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  Speaker 1: we just followed their, their own weird, sad lives. And, That's,
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  Speaker 1: it was amazing. Anyway. Oh, speaking of OC, so there
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  Speaker 1: was some drama. We talked about the outfits that they
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  Speaker 1: wore for the reunion. Shannon, apparently she was, did a show,
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  Speaker 1: Project Runway, where they had a couple housewives. And she
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  Speaker 1: really clicked with her designer. And so she said to him,
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  Speaker 1: come and do my reunion dress. According to everything I've read,
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  Speaker 1: she flew him out and paid for it and put
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  Speaker 1: him in a nice hotel, which there are only nice
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  Speaker 1: hotels in OC and it's expensive. He then put together
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  Speaker 1: this yellow dress that according to the blogs and stuff
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  Speaker 1: I've read, absolutely did not fit, did not work. She
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  Speaker 1: did not look good on her. They said there was
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  Speaker 1: this netting on the top. I have some photos of
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  Speaker 1: it and it looked like she was caught in like
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  Speaker 1: a fishing thing and So they didn't know what to do.
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  Speaker 1: They held up production for two hours while somebody else
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  Speaker 1: went to like a Neiman's Marcus or something, went to
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  Speaker 1: the South Coast Plaza. I don't know if they were
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  Speaker 1: filming with OC or LA. Got her some dresses and
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  Speaker 1: then this pink dress really worked. She looks good here.
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  Speaker 1: But she still took a photo with her designer in
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  Speaker 1: front of her trailer. So we, you know, seemed like
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  Speaker 1: they were okay. But the designer is now saying this
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  Speaker 1: is the dress in discussion with the help of my friend.
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  Speaker 1: This was made two days before I left to Cali
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  Speaker 1: with three measurements. So he's trying to say I did
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  Speaker 1: everything right. I got measurements. I did this. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why she wasn't happy. But I guess people forgave
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: her for starting late because everyone said no. Like even
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  Speaker 1: the other cast members were like, no, you cannot wear
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  Speaker 1: this weird yellow fishing thing.
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  Speaker 5: You can't.
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  Speaker 1: It made her, according to the things I read, it
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  Speaker 1: made her midsection look big. She didn't like it. As
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  Speaker 1: you can see here, she looks really, really good. So
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  Speaker 1: the pink was a good choice. Hope they can save
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  Speaker 1: the friendship. I don't know the guy's name. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to say his name because I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: hurt his business. But this is probably going to help
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  Speaker 1: his business because now he'll be like, whatever, it was
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  Speaker 1: a misunderstanding. This same thing happened with Jen Shah's guy
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  Speaker 1: that– the outfit from the first reunion that they recorded
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  Speaker 1: her like screaming at him. And he said he was
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  Speaker 1: treated very badly. He never got paid for his clothing
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  Speaker 1: designs and he'd given her her whole look her whole season.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe you don't want to be the person doing
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  Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of anybody's reunion dress. Speaking of Jen Shah,
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  Speaker 1: so there's another report. This is alleged because I didn't
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  Speaker 1: order it. I don't know. But Jen Shah was doing
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  Speaker 1: her merch, Shah-mazing. She has like a bomber satin jacket
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  Speaker 1: that's like Shah-mazing with a crown on it and t-shirts
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  Speaker 1: and like Jen Shah is legal and all that. And
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  Speaker 1: people are reporting that they have ordered their stuff, sent
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  Speaker 1: their money, A, have not received their money or any
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  Speaker 1: kind of tracking number or anything. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: this is true, but if it's remotely true and Jen
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  Speaker 1: Shah is a juicy scooper, She better get on this
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  Speaker 1: now and rectify it because this is the last thing
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  Speaker 1: you need for your trial, reputation, everything else. And if
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: you're anybody that ordered the Jen Shaw stuff and this happened,
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  Speaker 1: DM me. I really want to hear, did you actually
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  Speaker 1: get screwed and send like $ 65 for a sweatshirt and
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: not get it? Speaking of merch, here's some of my
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: new merch. Cute tank, cute... zip up just light enough
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  Speaker 1: for summer or when you get a little nippy when
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: you're walking through the grocery store you just throw this
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  Speaker 1: on and maybe a fellow juicy scooper will come up
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  Speaker 1: to you and be like hey i'm a delight too
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• 23:27
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• 23:30
  Speaker 1: pretty juicy episode we have going on. A famous podcast
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: that's been around forever. The hosts are Corinne Fisher and
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  Speaker 1: Christina Hutchinson.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Heather. Thanks for having us. That's
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: a beautiful introduction.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: You came to see me a couple years ago. You
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: guys live in New York still, right?
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: And yeah, let's talk about your show. You guys have
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: done a lot. You've been doing this a while and
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: have been partners this whole time.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Great title of a podcast.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Guys, in fact, I remember the first time I heard
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: about it, I was like, like, what? How has it evolved?
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: And how many years has it been going on? Because
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: you're like me. I'm on six and a half years,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: but I know you're longer than I am. Are you?
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: Eight.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Yes. And now it's like, Everyone has a podcast.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: And, you know, sometimes I try to tell myself, girl,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: it's okay, you know, but sometimes it can be a
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: little like, wow, really?
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Don't beat the art form to death.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: You're always charting high, though. Yeah, you are.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: It's a real testament to how good this show is
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: and how much people love it. You're always at the top.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Of the charts.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Now, speaking of intellectual property and all that stuff, Around
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: that time or maybe after you, the Caller Daddy girls
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: were together and they were a partner. When they broke
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: up in that juicy barstool story, what were your thoughts then?
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Did you know them? Because it was sort of a
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: similar story. You know, a show of two female hosts,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: very sexual content.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: We actually have a juicy... I said you don't say. Heather,
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: we actually have a juicy inside scoop about Call Her Daddy.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: And Barstool Sports.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: We do have an inside scoop, yeah.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: I mean, the inside scoop is that this show is
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: based off of our show and Barstool literally put out
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: a casting call saying we're looking to do our version
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: of Guys We Fucked. Yeah.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: So we saw the casting call.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: Because it came several... It came a long time after
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Guys We Fucked.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Like a.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: It wasn't like a formal casting call.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I am getting a rash just thinking about.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: It was like a memo of them, like an internal
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: thing of them looking for it.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: But wait, how did, did you see it after the
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: fact or did you see it while it was happening?
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: We were alerted by listeners of the podcast.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: Like people, I've since tried to find the actual like
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: ad because like, you know, you can find old ads.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: You can find the ad that they put out to,
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: you know, cast the Spice Girls. But I was like,
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: I couldn't get this one. But, I mean, all the
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: signs are there. We know multiple people DM'd us and
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: told us about that. I mean, it's obvious in the show,
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: even in the trajectory of the show. I mean, the
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: big different thing is that Sophia ended up leaving. Right.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: But I don't think that was planned. I mean, based
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: on what I know from behind the scenes.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, I studied that whole thing. I mean,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I heard both sides of the story, and I interviewed Sophia,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: and I understood it all. Yeah, it made sense. Yeah. Yeah,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: one of them got $ 60 million, but on the other hand,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Sophia's still doing great.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: She is.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: And it's probably better that they went their own ways.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: But wait a minute about them copying your thing. I mean, like...
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: It's a good idea, though. How? But how frustrating?
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: But basically what they did was, they said, we want
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: our guys to fuck, but with hotter chicks.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: So we need younger, hotter women. And that's exactly what
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: they did.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: And something a little.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: Less feminist so that it's better for the male gaze
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: because that is what Barstool is about. There's a reason
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: why Barstool is a multi-million dollar company.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: They know what they're doing. They're smart.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: Erica Nardini follows us on Instagram but has never talked
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: to us.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: She's a CEO.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Why is that? She's a CEO.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: It's almost like she's watching us. And I love Erica Nardini.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not even mad. I mean, I'm mad
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: about it in.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: Theory because it's our baby and I feel like it
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: was bastardized.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: In a way.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: And like, it's like, I do feel like that show
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: gives women bad advice, but I can't control all the
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: advice that women get. So it's frustrating to create something
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: and then have the thing that's copying you become larger
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: than your thing.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: Like, that's a tough pill to swallow.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: That is.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: But I can't be mad at Barstool because they're a
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: business and man, did they make that business work.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, Skims is Spanx.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Of course. And there were 12 other things between Spanx
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: and Skims.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: And it's like, I know that too, you know, even
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: with now Juicy Scoop is trademarked. But the amount of
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: times that I'm seeing people say, and we're going to
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: give you the scoop and let's get the, or they'll even,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: they'll say Juicy Scoop. You can say it, you know,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: but like, you just can't call a show Juicy Scoop.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: And the similar types of shows and stuff. That's, that's
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: okay though. I didn't, I didn't invent podcasting. I didn't
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: invent doing hot topics. But yeah, I mean, so far,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: you know, no, that hasn't been the blatant thing. That
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: would be, that would be extremely hard. That would be
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: extremely hard.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Hey, at least, I mean, that's, and that you can't
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: take away from us.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: You did.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: You definitely did.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: The thing that frustrates me is like, I'll listen to
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: some of these copies because there's a lot of, there's
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: a lot of specifically two females hosting a comedy sex
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: podcast of their interviewing guys they fucked or guys that
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: they date or guys that won't date them or whatever
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: the fuck.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: And I haven't listened to all of them. And it's
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: such a good idea that all of them do well.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: Well, it is.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: What a testament.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: There's a couple things there. One, it's like, this is
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: a conversation that needs to be had, so everyone should
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: be having it. So that I really like, because then
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: we're all talking about things.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Finally, we're fucking talking about shit.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: But when I listen to, like, I've listened to Call
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Her Daddy, and I'm like, this isn't good.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's good.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: It's not fucking entertaining.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, is that? But I'm like, okay, am
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: I not? What am I missing? I've got to be
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: missing something. I know I am.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: People love it.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: People love the show.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Well, I just listened to her interview with the Anna Delvey.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, she gets really good interviews.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: She gets really good.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: And she's like a business bitch. She's like a bad bitch, Alex.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: She should. For $ 60 million, she should bring in some
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: good interviews.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I know she cares about her
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: product being good.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: And some hot people.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: The girl, Anna, is a horrific human being.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Sounds like it.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: And we were watching the video, too, and I was
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: saying to Annie, I go, you know, this is really
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: good for Alex. This is like making her more real
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: and likable. I prefer something like this where she's trying
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: to call the girl in jail and like just every
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: five minutes, just a recall. And she, she tried to
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: get the scoop. This chick is just a horrible person.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: She's like a narcissist.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: She doesn't think she's done anything wrong. But when I've
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: listened to just Epps, like her solo episodes, which were
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: just like, hello, tiny gang, open your mouth and suck
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: it hard. I'm like, I'm like.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Sometimes I think that's really funny.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I guess you gotta be in the mood for it.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: She's beautiful. She's entertaining. She obviously has tapped into something.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: It's like, okay.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: But I think going that route of like, you know,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: getting these kind of, you know, that's going to be
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: the smarter route to go in the long run of
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: life because it's like, you know, but.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Um, yeah, it's, it's, To me, with competition, like competition
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: and quotes, I like it because it keeps me on
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: my toes. It inspires me to be better. That's why
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: when I listen to a show that's like a copycat
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: type of show, I want it to be better.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: If it's not, I'm like, what the.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: You're wasting everyone's time.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, that's why when I fell on my head,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I came in here on... What did we do? Tuesday morning,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I recorded a show. And I was freaking out that
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: it was going to be released at noon and not,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: you know, midnight the night before.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Because I was like... A, I don't want people to
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: think that I'm out of the game because I'm, like,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: handicapped now or something. And I also don't want to,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: you know, I want people, you know, like, I was like, well,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: let me tell you the scoop first. Yeah. But, yeah,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: it's definitely the consistency is what people always say that
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: they really admire because they'll start, they like these other
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: new shows and stuff, but the people... it's not their
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: main job. So they get an acting job or they
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: go on a trip or they just like go on
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: maternity leave or whatever it is. And it's, I've, I
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: remember I learned that from like a YouTuber, like the
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: most consistent thing to do is like, if they think
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: they're getting a video on Tuesday, you better fricking deliver
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: that thing on Tuesday. And so that's been a big thing,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: but like, no, it's funny because how you said how
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: obviously they're listening to you and the CEO listens to
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: you and everything. I'm like, Oh, I mean, I should
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: be flattered and I say that.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: It is flattering.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I do rate well. But there's so many times where
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, isn't that interesting that now they're writing
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: about this subject when no one was writing about this
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: subject before. I don't necessarily break stories, but I sometimes
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: am the first person to talk about something that's happening.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: But they won't say, I heard this on Juicy Scoop.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: They'll just do the research themselves and then make it
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: their own thing. But that's the thing about today. We
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: put it out there, and you're only going to be
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: successful if you put it out there. If you hoard
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: your thing, there's no way. It's interesting, though, because.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: What you just said about breaking news, because even the
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: New York Times, if a written news source, if another
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: written news source breaks it, they will credit in the article.
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: They'll say, this story was originally broken by Associated.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: Press or whatever it is. And I'm like, that's so
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: nice because what did it take? It took a little second.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: I'm still on the other place reading the story. So
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: it's not taking away business. But it's like everyone just
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: leaves feeling better. People like credit for the things they do.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: And sometimes people are like, well, you're not feminist because
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: don't you want all women to be doing well? And
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: I was like, I want to be very clear that no,
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: I do not want women to be doing well with
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: my idea. That's like saying like, oh, would I want
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: someone to go on tour with my jokes from my set?
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Uh no i would not i think people don't understand
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: when you're a stand-up comedian all you have are your
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: ideas your ideas are it they're they're more than your
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: face they're more than your outfit they're more than your
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: career goals your ideas are it and so that's why
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: it can get like like when they keep making like
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: home alone five six seven eight nine i'm like how
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: about you make a new plot with new family and
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: stop making home alone yeah you know you're out together
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: classic don't ruin.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: It um.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: So in speaking of that, like in all your years together,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: has there ever been, because I think there are a
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: lot of women that get together, men too, a lot
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: of partnerships, especially in the podcast world. And a lot
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: of partnerships break up.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Money.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: One feels that they've done more than the other.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: One feels that they have a higher platform than the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: other and they're bringing the other or they're booking all
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: the guests or whatever.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: How have you guys avoided that or have you ever
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: like stepped in there and been like, wait a minute,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: you know, or. Yeah.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Certainly we we put our relationship on a on a
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: we we we deliberately respect our working and relationship and
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: our friendship. And I think I was in a 70
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: relationship once. That's the longest relationship I've ever had. But
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: the longest relationship I've really ever had is with Corinne.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: We really make a concerted effort to be respectful and
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: to set boundaries, more so she, and then I followed
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: suit because I was like, what's the boundaries?
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Does that mean you hate me?
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: So I was a lot of learning and growing because
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: we started working together when I was 23. But I'm
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: very scatterbrained and I get very overwhelmed easily and I'll
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: go through these bouts of mental health problems. And then
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Corinne steps in and she's mentally healthy.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: It is good for a.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: Mental breakdown that you can switch back and forth. That
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: is important. And also, but even like walking into the
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: building today, we were like, Christina, I don't know how
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: to drive anymore. I have a license, but it would
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: be dangerous for myself and others if I got.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Behind a wheel. Because in New York, you rarely drive.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I moved to New York when I was 17
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: years old. Like, I don't remember how. And so I
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: was like, you're the driver. I'm the office manager. So
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: she's driving.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: She's on the emails.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I'm driving.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: I'm replying to emails about press, making sure we're everywhere
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: on time. I need a schedule for our trip here.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Like, that's just.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: I also used to be an assistant at a talent
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: management company.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: So like I, that's the stuff I'm good at. I
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: was an assistant and I was very bad at it.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: I was too good to the point where like no
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: one wanted me to succeed in entertainment because they just
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: wanted me to be their assistant for the rest of
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: my life. So I do think like my advice to
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: artists is be bad at your nine to five.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: Be so bad at it that the only choice you
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: have is art.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: It was interesting because I've talked about that too. Like, With,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: you know, with the big companies, like people that want to,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: you know, oh, I'm going to work for the Kardashians
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: and one day I'll be able to be heading up
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: the Skims design or whatever. Yeah. And maybe that is
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: the case or wherever those places. But also know that, like, yeah,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: if you're that really good assistant and you're the first
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: person that has... Brought the coffee on time and everything.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: That is so great. But you could also be so
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: good that you don't get promoted.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: That is so true.
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: It's better, honestly, I think it's better to just have
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: a great personality and be, like, lovably bad at your job.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: And then people will be like, man, I really like
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: you around, but you're so bad at this. Can I
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: refer to you, like, to something that you would rather
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: be doing?
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: Like, that's the lane. That was my MO. That's the lane.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: It's called working for a temp agency.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: I was so mad at myself for being such a
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: good assistant because there's no growth in that.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: There's no growth.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: That's so funny. I remember my dad had like an
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: assistant and like she was being moved from office to
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: office and they're like, it's your turn to have her,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: Passing her around.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: And she, one day she was like decorated his office
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: and was like doing all this, you know, and he
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: was like, so then he went to the partners and
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: he was like, let's send her to decorating school. We
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: don't have to fire her, but she could. And she
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: became this, like, successful interior designer.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's really sweet.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: But, like, that's kind of the same thing. Like, we
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: all love you, but, like, you can't type or whatever
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: the case was back in the day.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Not doing the job that we're paying you to do.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. What could we do? Yeah. Yes. Okay, so
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: you started doing it. Now, I remember there were lots
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: of other things that came about. Were you supposed to have?
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Different deals and TV shows and stuff.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. So since the podcast, since its success, it
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: was pretty successful, like, pretty quickly.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: There's so many, like, reality show deal, like, all these TV.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: I feel like Corinne and I have probably worked with,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: you know, we've had, like, 10 various opportunities with television
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: that were, like, pretty real opportunities.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: And a book.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: And a book, yeah.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: You did have a book come out.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, with HarperCollins.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: That was in 2017.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've done several iterations of our touring show. Yeah.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: But now we finally.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: So we had failed TV shows with.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Well, just name networks. Who cares? Lifetime, True TV. And
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: now we finally.
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: It was just announced in Deadline that we have a
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: show we're developing with Fox.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, awesome. Can you share about that?
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: It's a sitcom with Fox and Lionsgate.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: Tannenbaum Company at Lionsgate.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: It's the origin story of Guys We Fucked, but outside
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: of the entertainment business. So it's like if us, our
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: same personalities... existed in a world outside of the entertainment
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: business yeah.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: They never want you to be that was our idea
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: actually yeah i'm sick of seeing shows about comedians okay
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: well honestly that was smart because in my day of
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: when i would pitch and sell shows that were about
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: my life i'd sell one when i was 30 and
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: then one when i was like 40 i guess um
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: both about my life and both times I was a comedian. Right.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: The one was working with my parents doing real estate
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: as a comedian and actress and the other one was
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: being a comedian actress but a mom, okay, with kids.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: They were like, we cannot have you be a comedian.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: So it's interesting that you think there's a lot of
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: shows about comedians because that was always the thing that like,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: they never wanted to see that. It was always like,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: could you be a newscaster in Denver instead?
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, but then the stakes aren't where
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: the stakes are. Like, it's like a unique, weird thing.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: And, um, and you need to be invested in the world.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: But whatever this, I was always like, sure, whatever. We'll
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: write the thing. It won't go anywhere. And then, you know.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: That's the spirit. There you go.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Get that Emmy girl. I know.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: That's not exactly working the secret.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: It's like, That's on your vision board.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know what you mean, though, because
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: sometimes you're working with... We've had deals where we're working
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: with people.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: We're like, you don't like us, and this isn't going
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: to go. Yeah, I've been typing on a computer being like,
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: this isn't going. I should just email this to my
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: mother because no one likes this.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: And I remember doing a reality show type of thing
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: with my family, and it was the last day of
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: shooting with the production company, you know? And I go, okay, well,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: we'll either be really successful or we're never going to
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: speak again. This might be the last. Or when you
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: go to those pitch meetings and it's the last one,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: but you still haven't gotten all the rejections yet, and
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: you're like, Is this it?
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Do I think of something else yet or should I
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: keep on this and hoping it's going to work?
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So that is so– okay, so that's cool.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: So it's– okay, well, I think that that's probably smart. Yeah,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: and it's– I think too– The longevity of it too
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: will help if it's not entertainment related.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: It's more healing to just be able to step outside
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: this world that we're constantly in. I'm excited to write
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: more about, like, who would Corinne and Christina.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: Be if we weren't comedians?
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: Because, you know, I think every artist has that vision
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: or the dream, the secret fantasy of, like, for mine,
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: it's owning a florist shop somewhere in the Midwest. That's
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: my secret runaway dream. And I think most people have, like, a.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: Secret runaway dream.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Yours is basically a Hallmark movie.
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: Just when I'm like, arranged flowers have no skill set
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: around florist or floristing.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: I don't even know what you would call it.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: You don't even know.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: Floristry? Yes, floristry.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're wearing like a floral, like an outfit that
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: a florist would have.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: I love it. Oh, I love dressing like a middle
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: school art teacher.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: That's the look.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: With titties out, baby.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: Well, when you have small tits, they can basically, as
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: long as the areola is covered, they can pretty much
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: be out all the time.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Let them breathe.
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: And what is your weird career that you wouldn't have?
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: An EMT because I'm super good at emergency situations.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Blood doesn't scare me.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I like saving people.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: That's my worst job. Also, I have no strength.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: You would not be an EMT, I feel.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I would be the worst.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: If I was on the sidewalk with a bleeding out
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: and you came up to me with the gurney, I'd
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: be like, uh-oh.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Honestly, we're in trouble.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: I would be so bad in any kind– first of all,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: in any era other than today. Like technically, like how
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't know how to do stuff. Like sometimes I
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: just am like, God.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking of you churning butter now with a little
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: bonnet on.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: Just give me non-digital tools. You know what I think about?
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: There was a show that they came to me. It
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: didn't go anywhere. And it was going to be on Bravo.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: They were buying it from like Australia or something. And
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: it was taking people and their families to this cul-de-sac
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: and the houses were all going to be from the 60s,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: like the mid 60s. And it was like maybe four
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: years ago that they approached me for it. And I
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: was so sick of doing Juicy Scoop. Like I was
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: so sick. burnt out on how hard I was working
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: and how it wasn't like gelling really yet yeah and
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: they were like so you would be the mother and
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: like you there'd be no technology and for the summer
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: you would just and I'm like oh my god I
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: could just like live like my mom like I would
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: just make tuna casserole and like no and like yeah
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: and then so I was completely down for it my
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: husband was like what? What is this weird thing? And
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I was like, and I asked my kids and they're like, okay,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, we can watch TV, but like,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: we won't be able to do anything else. And like,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: it's like this weird experiment. Anyway, it never happened, but
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I still, I think I could do, I think I
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: could do the 1960s. Like I could, like cook or
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: whatever and all of that.
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: But not older than that. Like I couldn't do like
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: the four, I couldn't do like when there weren't refrigerators
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: and it was like ice boxes. I couldn't go that
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: far back.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Couldn't do Amish.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: But I could get, yeah.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: Could you make it through prohibition?
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Well, those people, you could still drink, right? It's like
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: where the parties were.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: You would definitely know the spots.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I would know the spots.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you would get the juicy scoop on who's.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: Got the booze.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would know the spots.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: You should do a juicy scoop if it was around
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: in the 1920s and you were ratting everybody out for
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: probation or something.
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: You'd know all the mafia guys to call. Heather in
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: all the decades.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: That is funny, yes.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: You're on the Mayflower.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Get the scoop. So I love that. So you guys
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: have out all these things. Well, I hope that goes.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: And then if it went and you're running a show,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: now would you be acting in it? We're us.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: We're starring in it.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: It's a real stretch.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Will you still be able to do your podcast once
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: a week? That's a good question.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: Well, we'll see. But I mean, yeah.
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think we're always committed to it. Whether
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: or not we're doing it weekly or putting a bunch
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: of episodes in the can.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: I think it's different.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: A lot has happened in the last eight years, and
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: we've never missed one week in eight years.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: Never an episode.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Never an episode. We've had some crises. That's my brag.
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: Sorry.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: We've had some crises. We've had.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Trips we've had.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: That's pretty great.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: So, okay.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: So you said you just did a special. Yes. So describe.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: We self-produced it.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: We put our money where our mouth is and we
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: reinvested in our art and we, yeah, we got, we
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: made our own comedy special. We hired a production company
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: and we shot it in Salem, Massachusetts. Corinne directed it.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Why did you choose there?
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Because that's, you know.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: It's a powerful place for women.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: For witches?
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: Yes. Well, yeah, and we also, yeah, we have, like,
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: we're definitely the witchy energy podcast of the sex comedy podcast.
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: I'm talking to ghosts. We're the hot topic. I'm getting
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: mediums to talk to my dead relatives. She loves the paranormal.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, cool.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: We're reading tarot.
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: We're, like, the little weirdos.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Smudging everything.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Got it.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: I just felt like a place, and I actually, when
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: I thought of it, I was like, I can't believe
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: no one's done a special in Salem before. And, you know,
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: because people say, oh, why didn't you just do it
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: in New York? It's like, number one, we're always in
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: New York.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: It's not special.
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's special to us because it's our home,
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: but it's not special to us as far as, like, performing.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: It would have been just like any other night.
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: And I think a special should take place in a
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: city or a town that means something.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: Like, I don't know.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: We're both on the fence with marriage.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: Like, I'm not against marriage, but, like, I'm single, so
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: But it's nice to be able to plan an event
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: for yourself to pay for something.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: And I love that it wasn't a wedding. It was
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: our fucking comedy special.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: It was really important to me because I'm like, this
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: will never let me down. Like, this is like golden
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: and solid.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: So it felt good to like, because when people get married.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: They spend a shitload of money. And it was nice
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: to spend that money on our art.
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: And even like a lot of strong women still that
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: we know come and talk about like how they're so
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: sad that they're not married or like it still seems
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: like Out of all they've achieved, that's still the thing
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: that really weighs heavy on them, that they didn't get
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: that to happen or that that's still the most important
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: thing or so much of their value is in that.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: And, yeah, I just don't feel that way.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I think what it is is that because it was
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: so ingrained in women, you know, between the ages of, like,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: 35 and up is– You know, as a little girl,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: it was always, you know, people talked about it. I
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: think now, with younger women and certainly children that are
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: being born today, I don't think, at least on some cities,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be this kind of thing.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: It's pressure.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Where you feel like it's so necessary, you know, or
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: like such a big part of your life, you know.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: And it's interesting to read about.
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: Christina gave me the book, All the Single Ladies, and
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: it's just stat after stat about of how when women
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: started to not get married at all or just get
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: married even later, just wait until you're like 35. It's
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: a game changer for the opportunities that you will see
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: in your career, the amount of money you will make,
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: even your happiness level. It's just like the proof is there.
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: There's numbers to back it up.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah. And what are your relationships like romantically?
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: I'm dating.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: I'm seeing somebody. We've only just kissed, Denise. really handsome
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: and cute.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: And I have a much younger boyfriend. So yeah, yeah, that's,
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: I just tried something new.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: You know, she's like a healthy dater. She like goes
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: out and I'm gonna connect with people.
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, well, once I like started thinking of
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: dating in a different way.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of guys are going for
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: women that are older in all the brackets, like, right,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: a 20, you know, a 24 year old guy dating
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: a 35 year old, I feel like, You know, 40-year-old
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: men are, like, dating 50-year-olds at a hot 50 or
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: 35 even once at a hot 48. Because, like, why not?
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Women really, truly, and I'm not just saying this, I'm
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: learning this now, and I'm like, I can't believe this.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: The world didn't know this or is not recognizing this.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: Women get so much better with age, like so much
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: better with age.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: It is wild how much better women get with age.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: And I, and I, I think it's so funny the
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: way society like values the young woman, but it's like
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: young women are fascinating and amazing and great, but it's
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: like you, you, you know yourself, you, you know what
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: you will and will not negotiate on, you know, your boundaries,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: you know what you want, you.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Know, I get it.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Also, I think with like a younger guy that is, um,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: you know, a younger guy who's dating, okay, so let's
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: say a 28 year old who's dating a 28 year
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: old girl within two years, there's going to be that.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Are you going to get married? Kids, this or that.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: If a 28 year old guy dates a 40 year
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: old woman, um, provide, maybe she already has her kids.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe she doesn't want them, whatever. It's like this pressure
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: of like, she's not going to try to get knocked up.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: She's not going to try to like, Get me to
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: take care of her. Like, we can just have our balance.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: There's no motives. You can exist.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we can just have this great thing. And it's like,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: it seems to be like a very successful combination. Like,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: people seem to be, like, no one's trying to pull
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: one on each other. Like, everyone's just like, we're here
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: because we dig each other.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: Well, exactly. There's a lot of freedom when you don't
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: have these goals.
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: Like so often the advice we'll give on the show
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: when someone writes in is like, They'll write in with
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: all these goals that they have that would need to
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: involve a partner, but they haven't met that partner yet.
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: So I go, how do you have all these plans
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: with a person that you don't even know exists? It's
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: like we're so sold that there will be 100% a
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: soulmate coming to us, that we create this whole world,
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: and that's the only thing we think of. It's like,
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: why not try to hit goals that only involve you?
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: It's just very strange to me. Yeah.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: And how do you feel about different situations, like polyamorous moms? Polly.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: Man, let me tell you something. That's a sore spot
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: for us.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: A lot of people say they're poly because they're not
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: having sex in their current relationship. So to fix that,
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: they then go, let's both see other people. But it's like,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: first of all, polyamory is a commitment. And it's a
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: lot of conversations, a lot of negotiations, a lot of things.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: So it's more challenging.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Wait, there's polygamy.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: Well, polygamy is definitely not even legal.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: There's polygamy where you have one guy, you know, has
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: several girls. Then there's where a couple is like dating
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: a woman and she screws both of them.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Then there's we're no longer monogamous. We're together. We're free
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: to date other people online. But that's not like a
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: swinging situation. Like I go off with my numerous dates
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: and you go off with your numerous dates and we
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: talk about it or we don't talk about it. So
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: you're getting a lot of people asking that's becoming like
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: a trend or what? Yeah.
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: And to me, like they're using polyamory when they really
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: mean open relationship because polyamory is truly like a unit
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: where there's love everywhere. It's not just sex like. Polyamory
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: is very structured.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: It's a very.
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: Specific community that is doing that. And I think people
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: are using it really loosely.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: You have to divide your energy up in polyamory.
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: I think it's far more challenging than monogamy. Far more challenging.
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: And I think there are very, very few people on
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: the planet who are truly able to love multiple people
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: at once fully and in a healthy situation. So I
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: think people, number one, are writing in saying that they
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: are interested in polyamory when they really mean open relationship.
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: And when they really mean open relationship is that they
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: just don't have the energy to break up with the
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: person and they want to have their cake and eat
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: it too. It's too sad to them to go, well,
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: I can't break up with him because the sex isn't good.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: Like it's more than just– it's like, well, no, you can.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: It's okay.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: It's not mean. You can be honest. It's all right.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: It might hurt the person's feelings and it might hurt
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: your feelings.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: But like– Well, also if it's just a– there's one
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: thing to break up with somebody and you've been dating
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: a few years and you have your apartment and he
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: has his– And you have your own money and he
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: has his and you don't even share a pet. Right.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: That's just clean. Yeah. Then there's other where you are
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: married or you have children together or you even have
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: property together or even living together.
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, do I really want to move? The
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: rents are so high. Where am I going to go?
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: I like my place.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: It's a pain in the butt.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I don't hate this person. Right.
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: And a lot of people stay because they don't hate
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: the person.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: But I would like to feel some passion.
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Like, you know, Kim and Pete.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because we're not super like, heal me in the shower, please.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: We're not super pro-monogamy. I just think that we wish
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: people would think about it. in a different way other
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: than just like.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Me want to fuck other person.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Dan Savage is like one of the best people
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: on this planet giving advice about sex, dating, and relationships.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: He is truly like the godfather of sex advice. And
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: we love him very much. I listen to his podcast
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: all the time.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: And I regurgitate a lot of his advice that he
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: gives because it's very thought out, very, and he's a
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: beautiful writer. And he says, he calls it poly under duress,
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: where one person is like suggesting it for their own reasons,
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: whether they're valid or not, doesn't matter. And the other
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: person doesn't want to lose them, so they say yes.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: And so now they're in a poly and they're like, nah.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: And then sometimes that person that's in poly under duress
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: falls in love with somebody and the other person was like,
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: didn't want to break up, so they said, let's do poly.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: It's like, wait, what the fuck?
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: And now it's just this web.
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: So we get a lot of those types of emails
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: where it's.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Like, I got myself into this situation because really what
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: I should have done is just broken up with the person.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Right. And then the person that, you know, went along
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: with it could be very resentful or, yeah, or the
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: classic of like, Um, let's have, or even just like,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: let's have a threesome. And then the girl ends up
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: enjoying the girl more than the guy. And it's like,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: and then she goes off to be with the girl.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: She goes off to be, explore her late in life lesbianism. Like,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: you know, like.
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: I think you can be very, yeah.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: It's just people to just remind people to be thoughtful
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: about the way that they negotiate and talk about and
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: communicate about whatever their situation is.
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: And if you agree to something sexually, like with your partner,
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: know that like, there's a good chance I'm going to
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: go off and do that. And you could be jealous.
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: You could, it could not hit you in the way
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: that you expect it to. So just like be ready to.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Feel those feelings. I did this show called all about sex.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: We only did six episodes of it, but so much
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: of like the questions and stuff as a TV show,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: It was like right around like the 50 shades of
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: gray and everything was like, well, the way to spice
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: it up is to dress up and buy toys and
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: do a fantasy. And I was like, oh, my God. Like,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: is there anything any other advice than that?
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: Play with a power dynamic.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Don't dress up. Play with a power dynamic.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Do that. What do you mean?
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: Power play.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Everything is power, right? Our whole lives we're negotiating power
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: with people, whether it's an assistant, a comedy partner, a husband,
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: whatever the fuck. There's various power negotiations happening there. With sex,
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: that is like the ultimate physical manifestation of power. And
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying like one person is powering the other,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: but it's a very powerful act.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: It's a very vulnerable act.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: It's like I totally understand the notion of spicing things
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: up and wanting to. It's very human and it's so
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: fun when you spice it up and it works. Oh,
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: my fucking God. It's the best.
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: It's addicting.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Like it's enthralling. And so playing with a power dynamic,
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: that's not usually something that you do in your relationship.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Sometimes people, if they're like married or been together for
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: a while, they have one type of sex. Whatever the
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: power dynamic is in that sex. Is one person submissive?
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Is one person dominant? Not saying that they're, like, full-on kinky.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: But if you reverse that, whatever the power dynamic is,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: that could be enough to just jolt you into excitement.
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: What about have, you know, in this day and age,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: because you get a lot of people asking questions and
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: giving their scenarios and stuff.
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: It always seems like the shocking from the Oprah days
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: would be that I found out my husband was having
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: gay sex.
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: And oh my God. Have you found maybe in this
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: day and age it's more like not a deal breaker?
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just curious.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: That's an interesting question.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Have people been like, oh, why can't a guy be
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: a little bi? It always used to be like a
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: girl could be a bi, but the minute the guy
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: gets gay, Forget it. That's what he'd rather have. He's
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: really secretly gay. He never was in love with you. Blah, blah, blah.
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: I think it's the secrecy is the problem, though, because
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: we actually very recently got an email that that was
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: a guy who had.
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: Like dicks or something on his phone. It was like
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: a man. He was bicurious.
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: But he wasn't saying that. Yeah.
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: And for me, like openly, if someone like on a
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: dating app or something had bisexual in the profile, no problem.
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: I've dated a bisexual man. That's not the problem. The
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: problem for me is just like be open. I want
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: to know that you're bisexual before I start dating you.
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: I don't want to find out like after or in between.
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: Especially for people who know. Like if you know, just
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: like tell me.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: That's it. Dating a bisexual guy though.
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: That's a lot to then be aware of because if
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: you're dating a guy and you go to a party–
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: And you think he's straight. Okay. You're in a straight relationship.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: And a girl is there and she doesn't have a
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: partner and she's being kind of flirty. You're like, okay, bitch. Like,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: step back. But then if your dude's bisexual, it's like
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: every guy, every person that he goes, I'm going to
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: play baseball. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: going to be with my friend.
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: Oh, right.
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: Sports.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: If you are a little bit of a jealous person. Right.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: How do you know that he's, like, and then he
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: comes home that night and he has no, you know,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: energy left to screw you. And you're like, what did
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: you do at soccer?
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: But this is conflating. A little worst case scenario-ing it, Heather.
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: This is conflating being untrustworthy with being bisexual.
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: And the two of the things have nothing to do
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: with each other.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Right. Okay, so if you're an untrustworthy person, don't you
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: think it would be more difficult?
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: But just don't date an untrustworthy person. I was going
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: to say, what needs to happen in that scenario is
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: that person needs to work on their jealousy issues.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: Okay. That's what's happening. There's no trust in the relationship.
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: I didn't suspect or worry about my bisexual boyfriend cheating
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: on me any more than I— But were you.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Guys monogamous, though?
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this is like a very short relationship, too.
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: Oh, so you were not— But I mean, in general, bisexuality,
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: not at all a deal-breaker for.
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: Me as long as I know. That's it.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. What about threesomes where two guys and you— Oh,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: that's my favorite.
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: I'm not into threesomes, but yes, you. I flew a
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: porn star from Los Angeles to New York to have
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: sex with him and another man.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Tell me everything.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Ryan Driller.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: How did you find him?
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: Pornhub.com.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: I was sleeping with this person. He was a fuck
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: buddy is the best word for it. And very sexy,
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: very like we had just great sexual chemistry. And he
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: like had an adventurous side to him. I had a
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: very sexually adventurous relationship for seven years. So I was like, oh,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: let's I love when I broke up with that guy.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I want to explore sexually being sexually
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: adventurous with another guy.
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: Like, it's so fun.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: And so this person kind of, I knew he had
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: the bug of like, and I'm like, what would you be?
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: What would you want to do? Like, is there anything
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: like on your bucket list? And he's like, I would
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: love to see you get fucked. i'm like perfect sign
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: me up and so there's this person that we both
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: knew yeah i knew of him and then this person
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: knew you could dm anyone with that blue check mark
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: hell yeah okay verify gets you a lot of shit
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: don't let anybody tell you different.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: You dm him and say i'm a big fan I'm
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: a fan of your work. Do you have any plans
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: to come to New York? He's like, no. And then
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: you're like, I'll get you a flight.
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: That's pretty much how it happened.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Kurt is going to do the itinerary.
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: Yes, I will do it. I'd be happy to.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: Well, so my fuck buddy booked his flight and then
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: I booked the hotel.
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: So yeah, we had complimentary skill sets in this.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: And then did you also have to pay him for
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: his time?
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: No, but the payment was his flight and his hotel.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: And he got to have sex, too. Right, got to
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: have sex. And then the other guy just sat. Did
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: the fuck buddy watch or he joined in?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: There was some watching. There was some joining. There was
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: a little bit of everything. There was.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: They didn't do anything. Because I asked them. I was like, oh,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: are you bisexual? Are you bi-curious? Because I wanted to know, like,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: what are you curious about? Like, what do you think about?
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: What turns you on? What gets you rock hard? Like,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: that's what I wanted to know. Yeah, I'd sign up
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: for that part. I'd be like, can you guys kiss?
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: I wanted that.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: My boyfriend went on a work trip, and I was like,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: can you... If you want to kiss... And then insert
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: guy's name here. I was like, if you want to, like,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: kiss him on the beach, like, that's totally fine.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Just tape it for me.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: I'm into that.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: I used to watch softcore, like, gay, like.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: It wasn't porn, but it was, like.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: I don't know what you call films where it's like.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: It's a movie, but like, is it?
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: It's mostly sex.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: It's so funny because I've said that.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: That's my favorite genre of film.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: My favorite genre of porn is like prime time storylines
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: of TV shows that weren't supposed to be gay and
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: then they shock you with the gayness.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: Like, you guys... Gay shock.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: They're working in an office.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: Is that your finger?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: They're both very hetero.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: And then they're just like, man, you took that client
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: from me.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: Fuck you.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: No, fuck you.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: That's hot.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: And then they just start going at it.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Really hot.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: That's my favorite thing.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: Wait, I gotta watch that. That sounds great.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know. There's little things like that. That's what
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: I'm always like. When I watch The Bachelorette, I'm like,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: when are two guys going to just, like, go for it?
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's, you know, some underlying thing,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: but I don't think we've ever seen it, like, in captivity.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Like, it's, like, maybe afterwards or something. But, so, when
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: you said that to the guy, was he at all
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: bi then, or did he just thought you were, like, ridiculous?
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: No, that, I mean, that's my current boyfriend, and he
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: is not bisexual, or maybe he hasn't discovered it yet
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: because he's young.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: He was just like, he was like, are you serious?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: He's like, are you serious?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: I think there was a little bit more jealousy because
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: in that youth, there's a little more jealousy. I think
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: jealousy tends to fade as you get older.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: So that was like 36-year-old me talking to 24-year-old him.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: And he was more, like in his head, he was like,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: you'd be okay if I just like hooked up with
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: someone else. I go, yeah, a man?
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: I don't care.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: That's no, I'm never going to be a man. So
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: this is not a threat to me in any way.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: It's not competition. I don't have a D.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: I mean- And again, like, and I was also, I'm like,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: I'm the one who's asking you and telling you that
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: that's fine. So it's like, yeah, no, I mean, don't
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: secretly start like hooking up with men.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: That would also be strange.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: I was like, you know, just, you know, the waves
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: are hitting a certain way.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: And when you, throughout all your years of being on
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: this show and like sharing about your own experiences and everything,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: when you'd be dating someone. Would they listen to the podcast?
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Would you be on restriction of how much you could share?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's interesting. Before we started the podcast, I
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: had been dating somebody for two years. I ended up
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: dating for five more years. So the first five years
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: of Guys Be Fucked, I had a boyfriend the whole time.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: And I was exploring various themes with him and stuff.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: Like I said, we were very sexually adventurous.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: There was a lot to talk about there.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: I did talk about some intimate things without running it
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: by him, which was bad on my part. And we
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: had a big fight, which makes sense. He was understandably
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: very upset. And then eventually we figured out a system.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Because I'm just.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: Now learning to be, like, an adult woman in where, like.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Even if you don't want to deliver the news, you
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: still should.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, have the hard conversations
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: or to, like, say, like, hey, I'm going to talk
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: about this on the podcast.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: Is that cool?
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: And this is why I really want to talk about it.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: And I just, like.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: There's a part of me that's just like, I just
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: want to talk about it and hopefully he doesn't hear it,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: which is not good. So I'm getting used to that.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: I've been single for three years. So and I hadn't
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: the last two years. I have not dated. I didn't
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: have sex. I just fucking I so much childhood trauma
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: shit that I needed to sort out.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: And so I was focusing on that for a while.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: Now that I'm seeing somebody.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: I am very mindful of just. letting that relationship happen
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: however it's going to happen without um highlighting it you
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: know but there's certain things along the way of like
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: you know right before you you know when you see
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: a guy's house and.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: You're like oh i hope it doesn't suck i hope
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: he's like got a.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Nice house you know what i mean like it's all
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: these little details that say a lot about a guy
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: that as you're getting to know him so that kind
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: of those kind of things i talk about but everything
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: else personal i kind of keep to myself.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: And so like what have you guys noticed? What's like–
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: since you've been doing this so long, what's like the
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: new kind of questions that you're getting from like people
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: in their early 20s that like you– can I– differentiate
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: between the generations.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: Of sexual standard duress that's a lot yeah this is
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: seriously that's been like a very common theme for for
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: people in their 20s lately uh emailing us and a
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: lot of like uh i would say like emotional abuse
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: uh that a lot of my friend is in a
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: physically abusive relationship what do i do a lot of
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: should i move cross-country for this guy a lot of
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: honestly like kind of it's very interesting because i would
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: say like as much as we feel like You know,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: Gen Z is progressing and better than us. As far
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: as sex and relationships go, like, there's more openness. But
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: beyond that, it's still kind of the same problems, which is, like,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: disheartening and– but interesting at the same time.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: I would venture to say there's still more– we're not
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: on to– you know, we still got to crack some
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: codes with the way that we interact with each other
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: sexually and romantically.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Do you think that, like, certain popular shows affected the
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: way– like, I.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: The way people react.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Sex in the City.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: That was my sex education.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: Sex in the City came out when I was already married. Okay.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: So I like enjoyed it. But as I was watching it,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: I was like, my God, you know, my friends and
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: I were way more like judgy and would check each
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: other about how many people you're sleeping with or who
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: you're sleeping with, or you'd keep it to yourself. So
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: to watch these women that were Their characters were, I guess,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: about my age, but maybe they were just single. So
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: I was just kind of like, geez, is this what's happening?
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 7: And now when I think about the way the younger generation,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 7: like girls like 25 to 30 or whatever, react to sex,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 7: I'm like, I think they saw this like, about you
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 7: could screw whoever you want, meet them at the gym,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 7: screw them, whatever, which a lot of that was written
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 7: by gay men.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: And I think it sort of affected their whole.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Because it's like you see it and you see it
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: as a kid and you forget that there's a writer's
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: room and this isn't real and people are writing this.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: And then you just emulate. You want to go to
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: New York. You want to live that life.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: And we certainly see a lot of remnants of I
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: want to be cool. So I'm going to like to
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: propose a three way to my boyfriend. It's like, but
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: does that make you wet? Because if it doesn't, that's
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: not something you should put on your sexual repertoire.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: Or there's something, you've got to find what turns you
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: on about it.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Instead of what you're trying to fucking prove. You don't
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: prove anything with sex. You come or you have an
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: intimate physical encounter with another human being.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: That's what sex is, right?
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: So I think it's so easy to get wrapped up
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: in these things that we should be proud of or
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: brag about like, Shows like Section of the City would
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: like kind of push on us.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: Or like I'm like, what's Euphoria going to do for this?
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: I love that show. I love it too. But I'm like,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, I was saying, I started to watch it
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: and I was just, and you know, it's so graphically sexual.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: And I said this the other day on the show.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit bummed that it's that sexual because
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: I honestly think it could be a great show. I
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: have teenagers that you could watch with your teenager. Right.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: Because it's like, oh, my God, the way the girl
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: becomes a drug addict is so.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Very interesting. And her journey with that.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: Honest and like such a real thing that could happen
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: and where the other girl starts becoming a sex worker
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: for attention and like. Those are the kind of things,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: you know, that I think are really important to see.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: And all the characters. But then you can't watch it
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: with your kid when, like, you know... Yeah.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: The titties are out and just bouncing.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Up and down. Or dicks. Or, like, you know, like,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: I was just like, yeah. But, like, do our teenagers
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: watching that show and thinking... all this is okay and
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: all this is the way you're supposed to act in
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: sex and this and that.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: Well, it's interesting because people have criticized Euphoria for glamorizing
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: drug use. And I go, if anybody watches that show
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: and wants to use drugs more, you're just an addict
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: and that's a journey that you're going to go on anyway,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: whether Euphoria came on the air or not.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: I watch that show and go... I never want to
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: touch a drug.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: I felt it was like an afterschool special, literally on crack. Like,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: like I would watch afterschool specials and that would keep
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: me from like ever wanting to get pregnant, ever wanting
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: to try a drug. And I think, yeah, that's it too,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: you know? And it's, and to make people aware and
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: the fact that they're talking about fentanyl and stuff like
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: that's so important and how much it, You know, and
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: how you think it's cool with the friend at the carnival.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: This is season one. And then, like, at the end, it's, like,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: the worst night of your life. Like, I thought that, yeah,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: And, like, heteronormative issues and, like, having a, you know, sorry,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: there's spoilers coming if you haven't watched the season two.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: Wait, I haven't seen season two. Oh, you didn't? I
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: told you I'm on season one. Oh, sorry. Don't tell me.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: I did say season one, so don't.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: Spoil it.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: We have very few things to look forward to.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 6: Oh, no.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: How can you be giving the juicy scoop?
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: You've got to watch Euphoria.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: It's the hottest show on the air.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: I know. But it's like I have to be by
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: myself and I have to take it in small doses.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: It's a stressful show.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: I have to take it in small doses. It's a
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: stressful show.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: I can't shot one that I can like binge on
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: a Saturday, you know.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: Not that I'm binging anything on a Saturday. Well, tell
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: everybody where they can watch your show, what's everything they
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: should be following you and all that stuff.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:09:30
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• 1:09:36
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• 1:09:40
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  Speaker 1: Oh, and then you said you were going to Bill
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: Maher's show after this.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: His new podcast, Clubrandom.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: Have you met him before?
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Do you perhaps have a Bill Maher story to share?
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: I have. I have met Bill Maher.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: Give me that scoop.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Well, I remembered how I met him just the other
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: day when I was watching the Playboy documentary. Oh, okay.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: Have you guys watched that? I haven't watched that yet. No,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: that sounds good.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: I think you guys should watch that.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: What streaming service is this on?
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: It's on A & E.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: And I think the last one is going to be Monday.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: There's 10 of them.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: Get that.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: Get you caught up. And so it was, how would
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: the girls get invited to the Playboy Mansion? And I
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: got invited to the Playboy Mansion for a couple years.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: I went to the parties. Hell yeah. So cool. But
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: nothing ever happened.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: You didn't see any wild shit?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I was always looking for someone, like,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: normal and, like, cute. So I was not going to
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: screw the old men that were there. And I was
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: not someone who was into drugs. And I just was, like,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: happy to be there and, like, just experience, like, the
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: beautiful house and, like, The Lamb Chop Lollipop apps and
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: just like I was just about that. But that is
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: exactly the way they described it, exactly what happened. I
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: was at something with Bill Maher. Like there was a
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: Bill Maher dinner or something. My friend was seeing him.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: So I was at a restaurant and then his friend
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: was like, would you like to come to the Playboy Mansion?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: And they were saying like there were these old men
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: that would like go to clubs and just invite girls together.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: But then there was this other thing called the mini
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: mansions that these guys would try to do. And then
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: that was for, like, if you really wanted to be
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: a playmate and couldn't make it, but you're trying to
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: do it, they'd be like, you can stay at our house.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: And then you would basically just get fucked. Like, it
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: would be horrible. Like, awful stories of girls.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: Oh, like, Sexual assault?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: Like rape?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: Like maybe you agreed to it, but it's basically like
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: you're like living in the house for free for a reason.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: Somebody dangled a possible job that's never actually going to
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: happen so.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: They can fuck you.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Like this is part of the deal and, you know,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: say in our father and get over with. I don't
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: know what people do. But I was just like, oh
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: my God. So yeah. So then I met him a couple,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: so then my friend dated him and then I went
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: to his show.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: And Oh, your friend dated him?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: He's notoriously single, right?
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. This was a million years ago.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: He has girlfriends, they said, but just never married.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: This was a million years ago. Honestly, I think it
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: might have been before 9-11.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 5: Damn.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: A million years ago. Because I remember we went to
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: the show at CBS, and then he hopped in my Celica,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: and we all went to the restaurant. some restaurant and
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: he was like really funny and nice. And so then
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: cut to like 20, like 20 years later, about a
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: year ago or so, I think it was during COVID.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. Anyway, about a year. So my friend goes,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: do you want to go to the Bill Maher show
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: in Santa Barbara with me? And I was like, all right, yeah,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: that might be kind of fun. I mean, I don't
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: know if he'll remember me, but we're going to go
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: backstage and everything. So we go to the show and
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: just at one point, like I'm talking to him and
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: I think, And.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God, Heather.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: And I say, like... And I'm like, oh, yeah, we're...
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: I probably don't remember my... I'm a comedian, too. You
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: probably don't remember my friend Daisy, whatever, that you dated
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: a million years ago. But, you know, the show was great. Blah, blah, blah.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: We're talking. We're laughing. We're talking about things. And he's, like,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: eating his, like, chicken and baked potato after the show.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, we're talking. And all of a sudden,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: he's like, okay, you guys are really loud.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: And I.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: Was like, I have got to get the fuck out
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: of here. Like, I don't think there's a worse thing
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: than a guy telling you, like, my eardrums.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: That is so something he would say. Oh, my God.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: I was like, I know. I was like, oh, my God. Okay.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: So we leave. At least he wasn't like.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: I go, oh, my God. I'm like, well, anyway, great show. Like,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: we're going to get a hug. I don't really think
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: anything of it. I know it wasn't a hit. Yeah.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: Can't wait until he meets me.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: I know he wasn't like... Well, I think in this setting.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: Well, did he just get off of his show?
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: I was going to say, because when we get off stage.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want anybody.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: To fucking talk to me or look at me because
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: I'm tired. The whole thing was that my friend invited
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: me and she was widowed a few years ago and
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: her husband was really good friends with him.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: So I thought I'm like doing her a favor by
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: coming and going on a friendship thing. I'm just thinking
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: this might be something I need to put on Patreon. Anyway,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: so then I come back.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: So.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: I think the night was OK. It wasn't the hit
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: But whatever. She then goes on to tell me that
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: she's like, Bill Maher was so mad at me that,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: you know, when I got invited to the show, he
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: just wanted to talk to me. And then he was
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: like all bothered that I brought this comedian girl and
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: that you were like bringing up your friend and all
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: this stuff.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 6: Oh, he's trying to bomb?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: He's trying to fuck?
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Well, first of all.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: Was he trying to fuck?
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: To be honest, I think my friend was kind of
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: bitchy to say that. Because I'm like, first of all,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: I know I drove home from Santa Barbara, so there's
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: no way I was wasted.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: And then I'm like, and you're making me feel kind
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: of shitty.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: I know I wasn't drinking and driving. Like, I wasn't. Like, right, right.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: She's talking to you. Like, that's private.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: Like, she shouldn't reveal that to you. That's, like, inappropriate.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, man, I made a bad call bringing you. Yeah.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: And I was like, first of all.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: I dumped her.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: I actually, after she told me that, I have.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: You friend dumped her?
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: I kind of friend dumped her.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because that's rude.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: Like, there wasn't a lot of activity her coming my
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: way either. But, like, when she told me that.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: She didn't need to tell you that.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: I was just kind of like.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: It's fucking rude.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: I was just, yeah, because I was like, you asked
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: me and I literally got rid of another birthday plan
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: because I thought you were, like, needed a friend to
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: go to this. But then I also was like, oh,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: this could kind of be cool for me. Like, I'd
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: love to be on Bill Maher's show. Like, who knows
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: if he knows who I am or not. But then
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: when I got in that space, it just brought all
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: back those, like, I'm the female that an older white
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: comedian male does not find funny. Why are you loud?
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: Who is this chick?
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: Of course you're a comedian. I don't know who the
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: fuck you are. Like, I just started. So I kind
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: of felt that when it was happening. But then with
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: the really loud ladies, I was just like, oh, my God.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: It, like, reinstated that.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I just want to die. But, yeah.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: Right, it's also, so I'll tell him he said hi.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 5: It's demeaning to speak to like a woman, you know,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: like a full adult woman as like, it seems like
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: a childlike thing to say like, you know, quiet guys,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: like no playing in the green room.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: Also, I want to say in his defense, my friend
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: said the worst thing you could say after a show.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: I liked it, but I don't know why everyone else
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: was laughing. I thought you were funny. No, it was like,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: I thought you did great.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, the worst is I've had people come up to.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: Me after shows when I actually think it was a
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: great night. And then even like in meet and greets,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: and someone's like, can I just apologize for my city?
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know what is wrong with them. It happened, yes.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's wrong with my city. Like, I
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: was totally laughing. These people just don't get it. So, like,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: don't let it get you down. And you're like, I
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: thought I killed it. Right. From where I was standing,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of laughter. And I thought I did, like,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: a great show. Yeah. So she did a little of that.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: She walked in.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: And I have to say.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: People be projecting.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: I have to say, it was this theater in Santa Barbara.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: And the acoustics are not great. Like, it's an old situation.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: And there were a lot of old, rich people. Santa
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: Barbara liberals that came to see him and they like
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: literally were saying, what did she say?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: What did he say?
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: And then the lady would be like, Ernie, he said
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: in Obama times, like it was just like.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: That's so funny.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: That's a bit, you gotta do a bit of.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. And so then we walk in and
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like, before I can say so fricking hilarious. Right.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: Loved it. Bill Maher. Remember me and Daisy? Like before
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: I could say that.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: I was like, She did that like, I don't know
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: what happened out there. Like, oh my God, what is wrong?
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: I think people couldn't hear you.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: That is so fucking rude. Okay, I'm honestly surprised he
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: didn't say, get out, pigs. I think he.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Didn't because this really was like his friend's wife. Yeah,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: she was his widow.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: That's right, I forgot about that.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: Since we're definitely doing this on Patreon. Then she goes,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: oh my God, you have to come to my, you know,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: you have to come to my house in Santa Barbara.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: I've totally redone it. Next time you come here, you
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: have to stay at my place. And he's like, he
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: said her name. He goes, I'm never staying at your house.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: I appreciate the blindness.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: I know a hundred percent.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: He's not fucking lying.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 5: Bill Maher.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: You think he's going to stay at Santa Barbara? He's
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: going to the Bill Maher or whatever that fancy hotel is.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: He's not going to like be excited to get a
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: free night in the guest room. Right. Like, you know,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: like I.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: Hate staying at other people's houses.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: When somebody offers you something that you couldn't give a
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: fuck about and means nothing to you, but they think
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: they're doing you a favor by offering it. That's always
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: such a funny talk about power dynamics. That's so fucking funny.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Unless they're not there. Like to stay at someone's
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: house when they are in. Yeah.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: Get a hotel. That's terrible. That's terrible. Unless you're like
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: a relative.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: I've done it with friends and stuff like that. And, um,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: But now, because honestly, sometimes I'd be like, oh, that
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: will be great. You know, I'm doing stand-up. I have
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: to stay four nights. I'm making this much. Ooh, I'll
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: save this much. Oh, yeah. Depending on. But then as
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: now I am like, no. Like, I just want to
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: watch TV. I want to get my coffee. Yeah. Don't
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: want to hear your dog.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: It's a lot about the dog sometimes.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: Do you not have a dog?
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: I have a dog.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: Do you like the dog?
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the dog, but my dog isn't barking
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: at 6 a.m. after I went to bed at 2.30
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: after doing two shows.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: Gosh, that's terrible.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: It's not their fault to stop the dog. That's their life.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: How many dog friends do you have? I've only done it.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: Have you stayed at a lot of friends' houses and
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: were interrupted by their dog?
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: It's only been a couple times, and now I'm like,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: I'm down to stay if I'm not performing. If I'm performing,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: I need to be at a hotel.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, because you need your own fucking space.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: And again, it's like, I might want to stay up
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: until 3 to watch TV. I want to sleep until noon.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: You need to recharge. It's not my friend's fault who
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: lives in a beautiful mansion that needs to walk her
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: dog or the dog is getting excited. It's not the
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: dog's fault. that I couldn't go.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: To sleep in the night. Just say Chelsea then.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: No, it was not Chelsea. But it was another very
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: wealthy friend and I love her and she might be patron.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, nice.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: But the point is, I will come and I don't
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: care if the dog wakes me up as long as
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not performing. Yeah, yeah. But yes, that's very funny.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: You guys are awesome. Thank you. I'll do a little
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: new ending because we'll marry that part. You already said
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: where they can watch everything. But thank you guys. I
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: wish you lots of success.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: And this is very exciting and I hope the Fox
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: show goes or whatever million other things you're working on.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: I love that you're comedy partners for life. And it's
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: just a beautiful thing. Thanks.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: Thanks for always being so open and supportive with us. Yeah,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: we love coming on your podcast.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: And let us know when you're in New York. Oh,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: please come on ours. We have a podcast studio now.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: Fully equipped with videos.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: Please let us know.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's awesome. Great. Definitely.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: Thanks, Heather. They think you're done for the day, but
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: they don't know about the drawer.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: The drawer. Just the one square before bed. Or two,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: you know. Nobody's watching. You deserve a treat.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: With eight flavours to choose from, you can choose the
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: flavour you favour with Cadbury Dairy Milk.