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INTERVIEW: Jamaal Bowman Talks 2024 Election Trump Vs. Biden, Nikki Haley, Israel-Gaza War + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
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Speaker 2: Everybody's DJ Envy, Jess Hilari, Charlamage the guy. We are
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Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building, Congressman.
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Speaker 3: Welcome.
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Speaker 1: What's up man? What's up?
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Speaker 2: How you're feeling great?
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Speaker 1: Seventeen days away from early voting? Man? Really excited about
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Speaker 1: my campaign, Really excited to continue to build this grass
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Speaker 1: roots movement we've been building for the last four years.
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Speaker 1: I'm hype man, ready to go.
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Speaker 3: You in the fight of your life right now.
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Speaker 1: Man.
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Speaker 4: I thought New York Magazine say that you are the
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Speaker 4: most endangered democrat in America.
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Speaker 1: Damn Yeah, that's crazy. You know, you can't speak up
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Speaker 1: for black people. You know, you can't speak up for Gaza.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. As soon as you start
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Speaker 1: speaking up for black and brown people, they're gonna attack you.
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Speaker 1: That's how white supremacy works. And so, you know, I
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Speaker 1: had the audacity to call for a permanent cease fire
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Speaker 1: very early on because we heard what they were saying.
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Speaker 1: They talking about amelac and cutting off food and water
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Speaker 1: and using white phosphorus and you know, using genocidal line language.
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Speaker 1: And so we called for a ceasefire early, and when
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Speaker 1: you do that, Apak is going to attack you. They
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Speaker 1: don't want any kind of criticism of Israel. And so
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Speaker 1: we did that, and they've been coming after us. They're
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Speaker 1: gonna spend more money in this race than they have
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Speaker 1: ever spent in history to get the first black man,
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Speaker 1: first person to color in the US history out of
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Speaker 1: the seat.
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Speaker 4: Two million, that was, no, two million a week.
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Speaker 1: By the time we get to the end, it's gonna
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Speaker 1: be like twenty seven million. So even back in October,
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Speaker 1: they were running negative ads against me, trying to trying
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Speaker 1: to bully me into, you know, taking the position they
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Speaker 1: wanted me to take. And since over the last three weeks,
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Speaker 1: they've been spending like two million a week. And election
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Speaker 1: day is June twenty fifth, so they're gonna spend two
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Speaker 1: million a week up until election day. It will be
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Speaker 1: the most expensive primary in US history. So, you know,
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Speaker 1: defeat worth that much shit to them. You know, what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying to them is worth that much because think
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Speaker 1: about it, before I was in office, before I was
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Speaker 1: in the seat, it was Elliott Ingle, Congressman Elliot Aingle,
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Speaker 1: who was the number one pro Israel hawk, you knowall
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Speaker 1: hawk chair the Foreign Affairs Committee. He was there for
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Speaker 1: thirty years, and right next to him was neither Lowi,
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Speaker 1: who never had any criticism about Israel. Now you got
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Speaker 1: me coming in and I'm not you know, I'm not
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Speaker 1: against any state or whatever, but it's about human rights.
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Speaker 1: It's about justice. Like if you're not taking care of
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Speaker 1: the people next to you, and we're not doing the
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Speaker 1: right work for a Palestinian state and a free Palestine,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call that out. And so to them, they
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Speaker 1: don't want any criticism, they don't want anyone calling it out.
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Speaker 1: And so I've been calling out from the beginning. But
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Speaker 1: at the same time, you know, our foreign policy and
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Speaker 1: what we're trying to stop there connects to what's happening here.
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Speaker 1: This is a group APAC. They're a racist organization first
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Speaker 1: and foremost eighty five percent of their money go towards
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Speaker 1: targeting black and brown people, right there's number one. Number
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Speaker 1: two They got true one hundred percent. And my opponent
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Speaker 1: who's working with them, who's endorsed by them, has a
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Speaker 1: record that doesn't reflect doing anything for black and brown people,
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Speaker 1: or very little over the cost of his career, And
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Speaker 1: so they don't care about black and brown people in
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Speaker 1: my district. They don't care about people of Gaza. They
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Speaker 1: just care about their own power, and so that's why
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Speaker 1: they're coming for But we ain't gonna let them buy
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Speaker 1: the seat from the people. We decide. The people decide,
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Speaker 1: the black and brown people, Progressive people, diverse coalition that
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Speaker 1: we have decide on who's going to win this election
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Speaker 1: on the twenty fifth.
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Speaker 4: Now, George, George him, from what I read, him and
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Speaker 4: Apex have said some pretty racist comments towards you. They
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Speaker 4: said they put out a mail or I haven't seen.
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Speaker 3: It where your skin was darkened.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like wow, that that's that's standard operating procedure and
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Speaker 1: that ain't even the.
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Speaker 3: Worst of it anything. They wish you had a stroke, yo.
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Speaker 1: Son he he. He posted a son on his Facebook page.
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Speaker 1: People started commenting on this on this post saying they
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Speaker 1: hope I have a stroke and referring to me as
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Speaker 1: a thug. He did not even comment, He didn't denounce it,
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Speaker 1: He didn't condemn it. He didn't even take it down
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Speaker 1: until the Working Families Party wrote him a letter. Wrote
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Speaker 1: wrote a public letter that put press on him, and
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Speaker 1: then he took it down. He said at a black
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Speaker 1: history event in New Rochelle two black people that I
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Speaker 1: take money from Hamas. He said this publicly, and we
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Speaker 1: had to send our lawyers, had to send him a
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Speaker 1: seat in secession. Don't talk about me like that whilst
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Speaker 1: we're going to go after you. And then he tried
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Speaker 1: to deny and say no, I say take money from
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Speaker 1: supporters of a mosque, which is also fucked up to say,
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Speaker 1: too right, But so you're saying I take money from
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Speaker 1: a terrorist organization. You're endorsed by a racist organization. Most
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Speaker 1: of their money come from racist maga right wing Republicans.
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Speaker 1: They're funded by Maga Republicans. Same Republicans taking out voting rights,
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Speaker 1: same people going after affirmative action, women's right to choose,
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Speaker 1: same people who supported the insurrectionists. This the people my
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Speaker 1: so called opponent, Democrat opponent, his partner went to again
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Speaker 1: go after the first black man in the seat.
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Speaker 2: What's the demographics in your district?
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Speaker 1: This majority minority, majority black and Latino, a very large
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Speaker 1: pro Israel component, Rightjewish, well, not just Jewish. I don't
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Speaker 1: want to talk about them as a monolith. They're different, right,
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Speaker 1: because there's Jews for Jamal shout out to Jews for
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Speaker 1: Jamal out there. You know they support me tremendously. Jewish
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Speaker 1: Voices for Peace if not. Now, these are great organizations
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Speaker 1: working on good for our pose. But there is a
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Speaker 1: pro Israel segment of the district that's very active, very
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Speaker 1: outraged about my position, and they're going to go out
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Speaker 1: and vote. Like this is the ultimate get your ass
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Speaker 1: out and vote race. Like the black and brown people say, oh,
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Speaker 1: I don't vote this now whatever, this is the ultimate,
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Speaker 1: This is the ultimate moment to show our power. There
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Speaker 1: are forty thousand black and Latino men in the district
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Speaker 1: who have never voted before. Like they don't even understand.
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Speaker 1: They could have decided governor, they could have decided county executive,
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Speaker 1: they could have decided local maya, and they can now
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Speaker 1: decide a congressman. They've never voted before.
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Speaker 3: Why do you think they're not energized? Like why do
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Speaker 3: you feel like they know?
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Speaker 1: I mean we know why?
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 1: So political system has never really done anything for black
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Speaker 1: people on a big level, right, Like, so, we are
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Speaker 1: co sponsor of a resolution calling for sixteen trillion I
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Speaker 1: think trillion in reparations for black people. My opponent is
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Speaker 1: against that. My opponent is like, it's not realistic. We
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Speaker 1: don't need to be talking about reparations for black people
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Speaker 1: at this time. So if you're black in America, for example,
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Speaker 1: and the federal government has never taken up the issue
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Speaker 1: of reparations very seriously, why are you going to be
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Speaker 1: engaged in what's happening in the political process. The difference
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Speaker 1: now is you got someone like me there, first, black man,
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Speaker 1: raising the culture, single mom, working class educator. Finally in
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Speaker 1: Congress speaking the way I speak, and governing with the
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Speaker 1: people the way I do. And so usually, like in
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, we tripled voters turnout from twenty eighteen. Why
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Speaker 1: because they had a candidate they could believe in, they
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Speaker 1: could connect with, so they came out. We need those
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Speaker 1: numbers and then some in this race because if we
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Speaker 1: come out to vote in big numbers, my opponent doesn't
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Speaker 1: have a pathway to victory, doesn't have no matter what
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Speaker 1: money they spend. So this is the ultimate show our
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Speaker 1: power as real progressives, people under fifty, people of color,
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Speaker 1: come out early. Voter news is June fifteenth is the
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Speaker 1: first a come out big numbers and just show our strength.
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Speaker 1: If we do that, we trained the trajectory of politics
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Speaker 1: in the district, in the county, and the state and
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Speaker 1: in the country.
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Speaker 2: What's the biggest thing that you heard about yourself or
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Speaker 2: the biggest lies that they've been trying to tell, so
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Speaker 2: that you know, up here you can tell people what's
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Speaker 2: true or what's not true, because I mean, there's so
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Speaker 2: much online that you could just tell is just lies.
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Speaker 2: So what's the biggest things that you heard about yourself.
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Speaker 1: That Yeah, so they're trying to paint this picture out
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Speaker 1: there that you know, because I voted against a particular bill,
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Speaker 1: I'm against President Biden's agenda, right. The fact of the
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Speaker 1: matter is, I co wrote me personally, co wrote one
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Speaker 1: of President Biden's biggest bills, the Chips and Science Act,
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Speaker 1: which is going to bring back semiconductive manufacturing to our
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Speaker 1: country and particularly help us build wealth in black and
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Speaker 1: brown communities. I wrote that provision into that bill. We
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Speaker 1: are pressured Biden to ban ghost guns across the country,
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Speaker 1: and he took action to ban ghost guns, which helped
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Speaker 1: reduce gun violence across the country. I worked with Elizabeth
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Speaker 1: Warren to engaged by it so that he could do
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Speaker 1: something to stop housing costs, rental costs from going up
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Speaker 1: because the rent is too damn high. Anyone who receives
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Speaker 1: freedal money, we should be able to regulate rents. So
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Speaker 1: those are just three things. There were many more. At
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Speaker 1: the same time. If the president ain't doing right by
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Speaker 1: black and brown people in our communities on Gaza, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna say something about that, like I'm not gonna just
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Speaker 1: be quiet on that. And that's good governance, right, It's
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Speaker 1: good to have that dialogue, have that debate. Hold myself,
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Speaker 1: hold me accountable. Shit, we gotta hold each other accountable
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Speaker 1: in order to grow. So they're taking one vote, like
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Speaker 1: one of the ads I saw. I've been in there
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Speaker 1: three years now, voted a thousand times. They taken one
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Speaker 1: vote and trying to paint me as the devil because
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Speaker 1: I vote a particular way one time. The other thing
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Speaker 1: they're trying to say is they're using language like, oh
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Speaker 1: we don't like his style, Oh he's too bombastic. Right,
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Speaker 1: this is like racially coded dog Wigleso language because you know,
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Speaker 1: those black people were not allowed to say nothing, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean before Charlotte Man, it's nobody on
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Speaker 1: radio talking like you're talking talking, how y'all talk? So
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Speaker 1: they want they trying to. They're trying to disempower one
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Speaker 1: of my greatest strengths, which is my passion for people
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Speaker 1: and humanity and love and the work that we do.
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Speaker 1: So that's another thing they trying to do. And because
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Speaker 1: they have so much money, they could just put it
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Speaker 1: on loops over and over and over again and begin
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Speaker 1: to brainwash people. I'm glad you said what you said.
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Speaker 1: Our people they see it right away, like that's some bullshit.
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Speaker 1: Right as soon as they see it, they're like, first
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Speaker 1: of all, I know him, I know the work he does,
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Speaker 1: I know what he is about, heart him talk a
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Speaker 1: million times. What you're saying is not accurately representing his right.
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Speaker 1: We brought over a billion dollars to the district and
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Speaker 1: that's conservative forty million for gun violence, eighty eight million
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Speaker 1: for flood mitigation, investments in climate justice, education, mental health.
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Speaker 1: Again targeting particularly the areas that have been ignored, Mount Vernon, Yonkers,
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Speaker 1: the Bronx, Newell, black and brown areas. Like always, we
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Speaker 1: target in them because y'all ain't been doing he's been
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Speaker 1: off his thirty five years. I've done more than three
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Speaker 1: years for black and brown people than he's done in
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Speaker 1: thirty five years. Is so like, let's debate that instead
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Speaker 1: of trying to talk about some some wild shit that
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Speaker 1: ain't even accurate.
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Speaker 3: How did that out of all this affecting you mentally though?
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Speaker 1: And the question man, listen, I try to go to
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Speaker 1: the gym a lot. You know, weightlifting really helps. I got,
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Speaker 1: you know, my wife and my kids. So after a
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Speaker 1: long day, I go home mammy and my wife turned
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Speaker 1: on the TV watching mindless. I lay on her and
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Speaker 1: we just you know, we chill. So you know, you
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Speaker 1: know how we eat right, exercise, you try to do
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Speaker 1: those things I don't. I ain't had a drink in
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty twenty four, so that's helpful as well. And
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Speaker 1: and pray man like, like pray and meditate, yo, you
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Speaker 1: know that's uh. And have people pray for me, like
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Speaker 1: when I go to church, the church prays for me,
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Speaker 1: the mos prays for me. That's all very helpful because
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Speaker 1: some of the forces against me right now and against
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Speaker 1: us man and historically are evil forces man like, they
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Speaker 1: are not They're not here to help us man people
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Speaker 1: people in polity. First of all, white supremacy is all
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Speaker 1: about power. This is white supremacist. It's all about power.
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Speaker 1: Hour It's all about control, whether it's foreign policy or
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Speaker 1: domestic policy. And so Congress is under control of big
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Speaker 1: money in politics. Big money in politics is driven by
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Speaker 1: white supremacy. A pack is a white supremacist organization and
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Speaker 1: their big money decides. Listen, in Congress, let me tell
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Speaker 1: you what moves quickly. Anything related to police helping police,
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Speaker 1: or anything related to Israel. Those two things move quickly.
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Speaker 1: We write a bill today, we voted on that shape tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: But what about raising the federal minimum wage, or universal childcare,
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Speaker 1: or affordable housing or workforce development programs. You know, one
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Speaker 1: of the criticisms of Biden is we passed all these
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Speaker 1: historic bills the first five years, the first two years
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Speaker 1: I was in Congress. But then on the ground, people
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Speaker 1: are still struggling to find good jobs and make enough
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Speaker 1: money and afford their housing, afford their childcare. And I
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Speaker 1: always remind people, not only Biden is for we got
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Speaker 1: to vote down ballot. Who is sending the US Senate?
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Speaker 1: Who we send it to Congress? What about the state
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Speaker 1: we send it? The state we send a state in
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Speaker 1: the county billions of dollars, the state in the county
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Speaker 1: decide how they're gonna use that money. So if we're
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Speaker 1: not active politically locally, they're not gonna listen to us.
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Speaker 1: They just gonna spend the money how they want to
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Speaker 1: spend it. And so that's why we need everybody involved,
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Speaker 1: not just for me and my race. Like I'm good,
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Speaker 1: like God forbid, I lost, I got some talent, I
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Speaker 1: get a job, be all right, It's not about me.
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Speaker 1: It's about what we all represent. Like we represent justice,
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Speaker 1: we represent humanity, we represent the American dream for real,
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Speaker 1: for real opportunity. And that's why everybody got be involved.
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Speaker 4: You know, I wanted to ask you because you made
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Speaker 4: me think it's something. Don't want you to expound on
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Speaker 4: that more. How do you keeping your position benefit the
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Speaker 4: people in our community.
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Speaker 1: So it's important what we speak about and how we
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Speaker 1: speak about it is very important. Right. The person who
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Speaker 1: was in the seat before me probably never spoke about
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Speaker 1: universal childcare as being a north star where we got
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Speaker 1: to go as a country. Right, never spoke about fully
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Speaker 1: funding our public schools and the idea that in my district,
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Speaker 1: if you live in Scarsdale, right, we're spending ten twenty
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Speaker 1: thousand more per kid than if you live in the Bronx, Right,
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Speaker 1: like that issue, the issue of the issue, not just
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Speaker 1: the issue of reducing gun violence, but like being on
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Speaker 1: the ground with the family when they lose a son
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Speaker 1: and grieving with that family at a vigil, but then saying,
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Speaker 1: we gotta fucking do something about this, because it's not
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Speaker 1: just about thoughts and prayers. Okay, we got a right
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Speaker 1: to buy it and tell him buying to take action
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Speaker 1: on gun violence, and he did that right. Young girls
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Speaker 1: stabbed to death in Mount Vernon right again, not just
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Speaker 1: being with the family and showing up and talking about
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Speaker 1: what's going on, having particularly me like, I'm an educator.
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Speaker 1: I have a doctor in education. My focus has been
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Speaker 1: on trauma, so I know the impact of individual and
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Speaker 1: collective trauma on communities and I use that to drive policy.
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Speaker 1: So when the young girl stabbed a death, we not
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Speaker 1: just thoughts and prayers. It's like, okay, what's the policy
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Speaker 1: solution here. How do we bring in money to target
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Speaker 1: at risk girls so they have a place to go
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Speaker 1: and something to do. That's not just about you know,
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Speaker 1: you know, the normal things we have girls do QDQ
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Speaker 1: and cheerlead and all that. There's other things, so it's
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Speaker 1: about that kind of thing. So it's about lived experiences.
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Speaker 1: My lived experiences, my professional experiences as an educator, gives
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Speaker 1: me a perspective that guides how I govern with the people.
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Speaker 1: And so that's critical versus the offense. Seventy year old
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Speaker 1: white man, career, corrupt, corporate, pay to play politician that's
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Speaker 1: partnering with big money, racist MAGA Republicans and an election
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Speaker 1: deniers while saying crazy shit like I take money from
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Speaker 1: Hamas and allowing people to say I have a stroke
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Speaker 1: and call me a Doug. Do you want that kind
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Speaker 1: of person to see? That kind of person who's literally
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Speaker 1: supporting the genocide in Gaza right now. So while I
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Speaker 1: called for a ceasefire early, he's never done that. While
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Speaker 1: I called it a genocide early, he's never done that.
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Speaker 1: This individual is working with APAX to support a genocide
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Speaker 1: and Gaza babies being burnt alive and raugh for just
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Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. He supports that. Doesn't want
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Speaker 1: to criticize that in Yahoo, he supports that. So you
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Speaker 1: want somebody like that in office, or someone like me
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Speaker 1: who spent my entire life dedicated to people least lost
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Speaker 1: and left behind, mostly intlected, most marginalized. I was in
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Speaker 1: education for twenty years. When I saw shit wasn't working
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Speaker 1: in education, I opened my own school and ran that
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Speaker 1: school's in middle school principal for ten and a half years.
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Speaker 1: I saw shit wasn't working for my kids in the community.
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Speaker 1: I said, fuck it, I'm running for Congress. See what happened.
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Speaker 1: Ran for Congress, won, and now we're in Congress building power.
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Speaker 1: So we building power. They scared to death for that shit.
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Speaker 1: And so this is why we gotta we gotta come
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Speaker 1: out in droves for this race and beyond because we
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Speaker 1: got to build power all that. I don't vote ship,
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Speaker 1: you've given your power the white supremacy.
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Speaker 4: But but you said, uh, you know the guy George
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Speaker 4: Latimer is supporting uh genocide in gods? Yes, right, so
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Speaker 4: why support him? People say the same thing about President Biden.
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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, So how do you how do you get
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Speaker 4: because that's what it gets. That's when it feels like
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Speaker 4: everybody talking about both sides of their mouth.
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Speaker 1: That's it. That's that's the that's the toughest question I get, right,
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Speaker 1: And that's why we have been You.
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Speaker 4: Can't say don't support this guy, could yeah, what was
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Speaker 4: going on the genocide and God?
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Speaker 3: But then support president.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, so that's the That's the number one thing
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Speaker 1: we've been consistently critical of the President on is his
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Speaker 1: response to Gaza and his response to and Yahoo and
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Speaker 1: not doing more the whole and Yahoo accountable. The US
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Speaker 1: government should not be sending another weapon to Israel right now.
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Speaker 1: We should not be sending another dime to Israel right now, period.
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Speaker 1: And the President said his red line was rafa, that
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Speaker 1: red line was crossed. We need to stop sending weapons, period.
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Speaker 1: So I get it. I get how people feel. Anything
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Speaker 1: I would say to that, and I hate the lesser
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Speaker 1: to evil shit. I hat hate it. I hate it. However,
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Speaker 1: I was sworn into Congress January third, twenty twenty one.
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Speaker 1: Three days later, they attacked the fucking US capital. Five
17:17
Speaker 1: people were killed that day, five people died since then,
17:20
Speaker 1: And if they would have got their way, multiple members
17:22
Speaker 1: of Congress would have been killed. Trump led an insurrection,
17:25
Speaker 1: and he's on some deport these Latinos. We're going to
17:29
Speaker 1: do something with the radical left, which is me. You know,
17:33
Speaker 1: Muslim bands dictator for a day. Y'all heard the Project
17:38
Speaker 1: twenty five, like they're talking about, like, you know, using
17:41
Speaker 1: military to quell protests. That's some whole other shit that
17:46
Speaker 1: I don't even imagine what that could possibly be. But
17:50
Speaker 1: because historically we haven't had political power, we're continually left
17:55
Speaker 1: with choices that some people feel aren't great for either side.
17:58
Speaker 1: I could tell you I've been I've been a member
18:01
Speaker 1: of Congress while President Biden has been president, and when
18:04
Speaker 1: we had control of the House, we did way more governing.
18:07
Speaker 1: We did way more, we passed way more laws, did
18:10
Speaker 1: way more good things. His achilles heels right now is gaza,
18:14
Speaker 1: and he needs to respond differently to that.
18:15
Speaker 2: What did you think about Nikki Haley signing the bombs
18:18
Speaker 2: and all that, And.
18:19
Speaker 1: She's a she's a fucking she's a I was gonna say,
18:22
Speaker 1: so crazy's she's a white supremacist man. So that's not
18:26
Speaker 1: that's not surprising me. Again, there's people like her in
18:30
Speaker 1: Congress who believe in peace through strength and peace. True
18:34
Speaker 1: strength means peace for white people, and we'll kill and
18:39
Speaker 1: bomb and destroy any other country, particularly black and brown,
18:42
Speaker 1: if we want to. That's what peace through strength mean.
18:44
Speaker 1: So signing the bomb is an ode to the military
18:47
Speaker 1: industrial complex. And we're strong and we're mighty, and no
18:50
Speaker 1: one can defeat us. It's like many of my colleagues
18:53
Speaker 1: don't understand diplomacy, don't understand peace, don't understand negotiation. And
18:57
Speaker 1: when you consider the communities we all came from, we
18:59
Speaker 1: did that shit every day, block the block, you know,
19:01
Speaker 1: to make sure like shit didn't blow up to something
19:04
Speaker 1: crazy and no one got killed. And people still get killed.
19:06
Speaker 1: But we try to reduce that as much as possible.
19:08
Speaker 1: We do that every day project the project. But fucking
19:11
Speaker 1: in Washington, it's like it's just you know, doctor King said,
19:16
Speaker 1: the the three ills we got to continue to fight
19:19
Speaker 1: going forward, racism, capitalism, and militarism, And those are three
19:22
Speaker 1: same things we're fighting right now. We got to continue
19:25
Speaker 1: to fight those things.
19:25
Speaker 2: What do you think about black and brown people? A
19:27
Speaker 2: lot of people saying, you know, what's going on in
19:29
Speaker 2: guys in Israel, ain't ol fight an ain't our problem.
19:32
Speaker 2: We have so many other problems when nobody comes to
19:34
Speaker 2: our defense. We have so many issues that nobody helps
19:36
Speaker 2: to sell on our issues. So why should we dive
19:38
Speaker 2: into what's happening over there?
19:40
Speaker 1: So it's yeah, so it's both, it's white supremacy. So
19:43
Speaker 1: what's happening in gods of what's happening in the Congo,
19:45
Speaker 1: what's happening to Dan, what's happening in Caribbean. It's all
19:47
Speaker 1: part of white supremacy. It's a part genocide of the
19:50
Speaker 1: natives and slavering of the Africans, colonization of the continent,
19:54
Speaker 1: destruction of Latino countries to force mass migration. Climate justice
20:00
Speaker 1: is all under the umbrella white supremacy. So we should
20:02
Speaker 1: all be serious about the feeding white supremacy. But also
20:05
Speaker 1: we send three point eight billion in Israel every year.
20:08
Speaker 1: They're already a wealthy country and already a powerful country.
20:11
Speaker 1: Some have written that they don't even need our three
20:13
Speaker 1: point eight billion. That three point eight billion could be
20:15
Speaker 1: coming a Mount Vernon, Yonkers, Bronx, New Shell, all the
20:19
Speaker 1: communities that have been redlined and neglected. What we spend
20:23
Speaker 1: on the military can be coming here. Not all of it,
20:25
Speaker 1: because we got to defend ourselves, but more of it. Right,
20:28
Speaker 1: So that's why it matters. It matters like I don't
20:31
Speaker 1: want my taxpayer money going to commit genocide. I want
20:36
Speaker 1: my taxpayer money coming here to help me have childcare,
20:40
Speaker 1: to help me pay for my housing, to help me,
20:43
Speaker 1: you know, develop myself in terms of workforce, to help
20:45
Speaker 1: me pay for education, transportation, quality of life. We have
20:50
Speaker 1: the biggest wealth in equality in this country since the
20:52
Speaker 1: guilded age right now, and in my district. When you
20:56
Speaker 1: look at every outcome, health outcomes, education outcomes, economic outcomes, wealth,
21:01
Speaker 1: Black and Latino people at the bottom. Black's way bottom.
21:04
Speaker 1: And so that money that we spent on genocide can
21:08
Speaker 1: come here to help us.
21:09
Speaker 4: What would the congressman, what do you think the appropriate
21:12
Speaker 4: response to October seventh would have been?
21:16
Speaker 3: Because also with the congressman, you know, war is a.
21:18
Speaker 1: Part of it.
21:19
Speaker 4: Yeah right, you know, like, so what would the appropriate
21:22
Speaker 4: response have been?
21:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, go after Hamas, not all the civilians, you know
21:26
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So when we went into Iraq, we
21:30
Speaker 1: went to Afghanistan. You know, first we went in trying
21:32
Speaker 1: to blow everybody up, and then we were much more surgical,
21:35
Speaker 1: much more strategic, and we got Bin louder than we
21:37
Speaker 1: got Saddamus saying, what do you want surgical?
21:39
Speaker 3: Because even when they had those conversations, but what they
21:41
Speaker 3: call them insurgents.
21:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, the women and the children, like they just say,
21:45
Speaker 1: you know, correct, correct, right, But that's what I'm saying.
21:47
Speaker 1: Initially we were we were just going in and killing everybody.
21:51
Speaker 1: That's what Israel's doing right now in Gaza, killing everybody.
21:54
Speaker 1: And they use language like this. The president said, there
21:57
Speaker 1: are no innocent civilians in Gaza. Uh and yah yah
22:00
Speaker 1: who said remember amalac, which is a biblical reference to
22:03
Speaker 1: a genocidal attack. Right, They color food, water, use white phosphorus,
22:08
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. You know right now as a
22:10
Speaker 1: famine setting in because they're not letting the food get in. Right.
22:14
Speaker 1: So this right here are these are war crimes and
22:18
Speaker 1: what could have been done is a surgical response to
22:20
Speaker 1: get Hamas. But here's the bigger picture here. Hamas is
22:25
Speaker 1: not a people, it's an idea. It's an idea that
22:29
Speaker 1: that festers and nurtures in the minds of people who
22:33
Speaker 1: are historically oppressed. And so we have to deal with
22:37
Speaker 1: the oppression, not just the people who have been nurtured
22:41
Speaker 1: as a result of the oppression. So Israel has been
22:45
Speaker 1: as referred to as apartheid state. Now Jamal Bowman's words,
22:48
Speaker 1: the UN Human Rights watched other organizations apartheid state. Right,
22:53
Speaker 1: So that means these people are growing up in apartheid. Right.
22:56
Speaker 1: There's a military occupation for seventy five years in the
22:59
Speaker 1: West that is against international law. There's settlement expansion into
23:03
Speaker 1: the West Bank or what's supposed to be a Palstinian
23:05
Speaker 1: state seven hundred thousand people that is against international law.
23:08
Speaker 1: There's the consistent detaining of women and children without due
23:11
Speaker 1: process in the West Bank. This is these war crimes,
23:14
Speaker 1: and so you got people growing up in that. So
23:16
Speaker 1: it's not to justify anything. We condemned October seventh, absolutely outright,
23:20
Speaker 1: because killing civilians is wrong. That's a war crime, absolutely,
23:24
Speaker 1: but you can't condemn October seventh and then not condemn
23:28
Speaker 1: what's happened since then or what happened before that. And
23:31
Speaker 1: so surgical approach in this moment is better, But what's
23:35
Speaker 1: actually better is peace. We've been talking about two state solution.
23:40
Speaker 1: We're the Palestinian state. I went there like I went
23:44
Speaker 1: to Israel. I went to the West Bank. I've been
23:46
Speaker 1: to Hebron and Ramala, and the place that's supposed to
23:49
Speaker 1: be a Polstadian state, it has seven hundred thousand illegal
23:52
Speaker 1: settlers from Israel on that land. So how are we
23:55
Speaker 1: going to have a state? We lion like, stop lying
23:58
Speaker 1: to the people into ourselves. You want to stop hamas
24:02
Speaker 1: and stop extremism. Let's have diplomacy and equity and opportunity
24:07
Speaker 1: and stop trying to maintain his white supremacist canstas.
24:10
Speaker 4: What I've heard a lot of Progrial people saying is
24:12
Speaker 4: that Harmas doesn't want peace, like Hamas's whole mission is
24:16
Speaker 4: to wipe Jewish people off to face it face of
24:19
Speaker 4: the earth.
24:20
Speaker 1: And that's why we gotta we gotta deal with Hamas.
24:22
Speaker 1: The other part of that is in Yahoo empowered Hamas
24:26
Speaker 1: over the course of years to destabilize the Palestinians so
24:31
Speaker 1: that because Nan Yahu doesn't want a Palestinian state, yao,
24:34
Speaker 1: who wants the Palestinians to leave and if they don't leave,
24:37
Speaker 1: he will kill them. That's what he wants, so they
24:40
Speaker 1: can have all the land, that's what he wants. And
24:42
Speaker 1: so he's been empowering Hamas to undermine the PLO and
24:47
Speaker 1: the Positilian authority so that they don't rise up as
24:50
Speaker 1: as quality leaders because then it will be pressure on
24:52
Speaker 1: him to have a Palestinian state. So then Yahoo is
24:56
Speaker 1: a fucking nightmare in this whole scenario. But the US
25:00
Speaker 1: got to step in. We are the ones who support
25:03
Speaker 1: there are allies, Okay, hold our allies accountable. We want
25:06
Speaker 1: to keep them safe. Let's have a Palestinian state. You
25:08
Speaker 1: can have a safe Israel and a safe Palestine. You
25:11
Speaker 1: could fight anti Semitism and have a free Palestine. And
25:14
Speaker 1: that's what should we should be focused on. It's like
25:16
Speaker 1: we we don't. We don't have complex, nuanced thinking or
25:20
Speaker 1: even the heart as we deal with these issues. Lead
25:22
Speaker 1: with the heart first and not with fucking missiles.
25:25
Speaker 3: Like why do you leftist?
25:26
Speaker 4: Some leftist say they don't feel like you're critical enough
25:29
Speaker 4: of Israel because.
25:30
Speaker 1: Oh, clearly.
25:32
Speaker 4: And clearlywise yeah, I mean, I mean I don't know, man,
25:36
Speaker 4: I think there's there's there's purity tests out there, you
25:39
Speaker 4: know what I mean, where like oh.
25:40
Speaker 1: If you if you don't say this word this way
25:43
Speaker 1: on in this medium, then then then you're not critical.
25:46
Speaker 1: But like again, it's not about Israel, right, It's about humanity, right.
25:50
Speaker 1: It's about who are we as a human race? And
25:54
Speaker 1: who are we trying to be? You know what I'm saying.
25:57
Speaker 1: Are we trying to just be in a cycle of
25:59
Speaker 1: you know, disagreement, conflict, violence, war, genocide so that I
26:04
Speaker 1: can have power and you can't. Is that just We're
26:06
Speaker 1: just going to be in that human cycle for the
26:08
Speaker 1: rest of human existence. All we're going to like put
26:11
Speaker 1: the guns down, come together and figure out the way
26:13
Speaker 1: to share this planet abundantly together. I think we can
26:16
Speaker 1: do that. I think there's enough space for everyone to
26:18
Speaker 1: have land, home, food, clothing, shelter and realize their dreams.
26:24
Speaker 1: But why supremacy stops that from happening? And that's why
26:27
Speaker 1: that you know, the movie Origin and the book Cast
26:30
Speaker 1: is so powerful because it talks about that cast system.
26:33
Speaker 1: It's not just here, it's all over the place, and
26:35
Speaker 1: it's like, fuck, man, like, can't we just figure out
26:37
Speaker 1: how to live here together without the bullshit?
26:40
Speaker 4: I got one more question by is before I'm ask
26:42
Speaker 4: you saything else, because I really don't know. Why are
26:45
Speaker 4: both parties so beholden to isral? Is it because of
26:50
Speaker 4: the money that comes from APEC? Like why what is it?
26:52
Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. I think that's a
26:54
Speaker 1: major part of it. APAK writes resolutions and bills for
26:59
Speaker 1: us to vote on, and they also fund the re
27:02
Speaker 1: election campaign of like the majority of members of Congress
27:05
Speaker 1: Republican and Democrat. That's amazing, that's amazing, And if you
27:08
Speaker 1: do something against them, they will come after you very aggressive,
27:13
Speaker 1: like they're doing in my race. When we first got
27:15
Speaker 1: to Congress, one of the things we learned of what
27:18
Speaker 1: was happening is Israel wasn't sending vaccines to Palestinians, which
27:22
Speaker 1: is their responsibility as an occupying power. So we wrote
27:26
Speaker 1: a letter to the concert. Yo, y'all got to send
27:27
Speaker 1: them vaccines, Like, what are we doing consultly? You know?
27:31
Speaker 1: All kinds of people responded online, crazy, Oh he's talking
27:34
Speaker 1: about Israel. We met with the consulates, etc. Et cetera,
27:37
Speaker 1: good meeting. It was good. We co sponsored a bill
27:40
Speaker 1: with one of my colleagues that only said, only asked
27:46
Speaker 1: the question, what are you doing with our money? We
27:48
Speaker 1: want to make sure you're not using our money to
27:50
Speaker 1: detain women and children unjustly. We just co sponsored the bill.
27:54
Speaker 1: It didn't have a vote. No one took a vote
27:56
Speaker 1: on it. It definitely wasn't going to pass. They sent
27:59
Speaker 1: a thousand let us to my office. We couldn't even
28:01
Speaker 1: do our job for like a week or two because
28:02
Speaker 1: they styre constantly bombarded in our office. They were protesting
28:05
Speaker 1: outside my mouth Vernon office Israeli flag like and so
28:09
Speaker 1: so my colleagues don't want to deal with that. Many
28:12
Speaker 1: of them they're like, Yo, I'd rather just chill. Let
28:15
Speaker 1: me keep this cushiony seat. It's a very cushy job. Man.
28:19
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You don't make a lot
28:20
Speaker 1: of money. You know what I'm saying when you got
28:22
Speaker 1: kids and family. But every night in DC there's some
28:25
Speaker 1: lobbyist group throwing a free party with free food and
28:29
Speaker 1: free drinks in a very nice hotel. And you in
28:32
Speaker 1: DC look over looking the Capitol drinking. You're like, oh,
28:35
Speaker 1: this is nice.
28:35
Speaker 3: We've got the cocaine.
28:36
Speaker 1: Though I have no idea. That's why I listen.
28:42
Speaker 3: They found them in the White House.
28:43
Speaker 1: I know, allegedly. I don't know. Man, listen, let me
28:46
Speaker 1: tell you what I do. When I'm there. I'll vote
28:48
Speaker 1: and I take my asshome.
28:50
Speaker 2: That you feel about the rematch between Biden and Trump?
28:57
Speaker 2: How do you think it's going.
28:58
Speaker 1: I hope this is you know again, I support President Biden,
29:02
Speaker 1: even though I'm totally against everything he's doing in Gayza,
29:05
Speaker 1: I think he's a better president. And as a Democrat,
29:08
Speaker 1: if we have the House and the Senate and he's president,
29:11
Speaker 1: we're going to do stuff.
29:12
Speaker 3: We've heard that before.
29:13
Speaker 1: We we have done stuff though we're talking about we've
29:15
Speaker 1: done heard that he saved the economy even when Trump
29:18
Speaker 1: was in office. We saved the economy.
29:19
Speaker 4: We heard that last time, but then everything got put
29:22
Speaker 4: the blame got put on Joe Manson and Christen Cinema
29:24
Speaker 4: and the whole.
29:27
Speaker 1: Democracy. Right. And so it's interesting because you all saw
29:30
Speaker 1: a brother, brother Rashad Balau, a clip from him shout.
29:35
Speaker 1: He was talking about Biden and how people are not
29:37
Speaker 1: energized by Biden, and and he's right about that. But
29:39
Speaker 1: one somebody in the comments was like, yo, we got
29:42
Speaker 1: thirty US Senate races. Look down ballot like you gotta
29:46
Speaker 1: look down ballid. They don't have a tell us that.
29:48
Speaker 4: And I agree with you, but that when we put
29:51
Speaker 4: Biden in office, they were saying the same thing, right,
29:54
Speaker 4: do y'all know these thingate is better than us? Y'all
29:56
Speaker 4: know who not on the same page as y'all? Why
29:58
Speaker 4: why volunteered that? You know we're all gonna be in
30:01
Speaker 4: line and then is gonna have to tie.
30:03
Speaker 1: Break again again. I'm gonna come back to your question,
30:05
Speaker 1: but again it's it's you know, American Rescue Plan, chips
30:09
Speaker 1: and science that bills we could point to that we
30:11
Speaker 1: passed that we went and pass if we didn't have
30:13
Speaker 1: all through, right, so real results there. But in terms
30:16
Speaker 1: of the thirty down ballots, you get the right senators
30:21
Speaker 1: in the Senate. Now we could do more shit. Also,
30:25
Speaker 1: there's something called the filibuster. Please please have someone I
30:28
Speaker 1: think there's a book called kill Switch. I'm forgetting the
30:30
Speaker 1: ought to have him here to talk about the filibuster
30:32
Speaker 1: because right now what we have in the Senate, this
30:34
Speaker 1: is why we need democracy reform, the democracy reform because
30:39
Speaker 1: it's not like a simple majority in the Senate could
30:41
Speaker 1: pass a bill. You need sixty forty and so what
30:44
Speaker 1: we have is minority rule where fifty senators from smaller
30:47
Speaker 1: states with less people have as much power in the
30:49
Speaker 1: fifty senators. Right, So that that's part of it. But
30:52
Speaker 1: in terms of the rematch, like again sport By then
30:55
Speaker 1: Obie winning, so we could govern together and do more stuff.
30:58
Speaker 1: But what they represent, both of them, I hope, is
31:03
Speaker 1: the end of that kind of politics. Man, Like, it's
31:07
Speaker 1: time to evolve into the democracy we can be for everyone, right,
31:13
Speaker 1: and we need new candidates, right, we need Aana Presley,
31:17
Speaker 1: we need uh, you know, Wes Moore. We need Gretchen Whitmore,
31:22
Speaker 1: we need Yeah, we need new thinking people, shaparro people
31:27
Speaker 1: with new ideas, new thoughts, engage the community differently, and
31:31
Speaker 1: that has to happen in twenty twenty eight. I hate
31:33
Speaker 1: talking about that now. My hope is whoever wins this election.
31:38
Speaker 1: I hope it's not Biden. I mean Trump, who tries
31:40
Speaker 1: to do some some stay in office forever ship and
31:43
Speaker 1: we could get him out that. Yeah, but you know,
31:52
Speaker 1: because I don't know what he's gonna do, and I
31:54
Speaker 1: don't know how the military is gonna respond to his
31:57
Speaker 1: orders and like real dangerous ship. But whoever it is,
32:01
Speaker 1: four years, like twenty twenty eight, it got to be
32:04
Speaker 1: a whole new America and a whole new farm policy.
32:07
Speaker 1: So that's that's my hope.
32:09
Speaker 3: A couple more questions really, this one.
32:11
Speaker 4: They had a story out there that you had a
32:13
Speaker 4: secret YouTube page, Yeah, and you would subscribe to channels
32:16
Speaker 4: that shared like anti Semitic, flat earth and Illuminati conspiracy videos.
32:20
Speaker 3: Is that true?
32:21
Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't even remember that shit, Like whatever the
32:23
Speaker 1: YouTube page was or whatever. I mean, I don't know.
32:25
Speaker 1: Sometimes you like things, you see a good video that
32:27
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that shit was well, he said, it
32:29
Speaker 1: was kind of interesting. Let me subscribe it.
32:31
Speaker 3: But why can't you watch?
32:32
Speaker 1: That?
32:32
Speaker 3: Is what I'm saying. I'm not.
32:34
Speaker 1: Agree, but it's about creating the perception that I'm a
32:38
Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist, radical black nut job. You know, that's what
32:41
Speaker 1: they're trying to do. This guy is not for for office.
32:44
Speaker 1: He files conspiracy theories and shit that that's what they're
32:46
Speaker 1: trying to do. We should be watched whatever we want.
32:49
Speaker 1: I don't even know what page they're talking about, so
32:51
Speaker 1: when I saw that, I'm like, I don't even remember
32:52
Speaker 1: any of this.
32:53
Speaker 3: So Marjorie Jaylor Green's a conspiracy theory.
32:55
Speaker 1: Man, but she's in what what what what district? And Georgia,
32:58
Speaker 1: She's in parts of Georgia. So got you got you
33:00
Speaker 1: got Georgia, yo, Like fucking uh herschel Walker almost won
33:05
Speaker 1: that sentence right against Rafaeld Walnock, who's the most upstanding,
33:10
Speaker 1: one of the most upstanding people I've seen in my life,
33:12
Speaker 1: warnoc hershel Walker talking about was he talking about zombies
33:16
Speaker 1: and whale wolves or something like that? He almost won,
33:19
Speaker 1: Like Warnock only won, but like percentage points. So Georgia
33:24
Speaker 1: and parts of Georgia is a different beasts.
33:26
Speaker 2: I feel I feel like, you know, with us, I
33:28
Speaker 2: feel like we always you know, I'm talking about black
33:30
Speaker 2: and brown people. I feel like we lose so much,
33:33
Speaker 2: right because if you look at the presidency before into
33:35
Speaker 2: my opinion, my knowledge of what I've seen, it was
33:37
Speaker 2: about what's going on with us, Right. We could talk
33:40
Speaker 2: about healthcare, we could talk about you know, free education,
33:42
Speaker 2: we could talk about all these different things. But now
33:45
Speaker 2: it seems like the last six months the only topics
33:47
Speaker 2: and the only talking points have been gayza in Israel,
33:50
Speaker 2: and that just it just seems so so what happened
33:53
Speaker 2: from there? Because that's that's all I'm talking about. I mean,
33:55
Speaker 2: when when Biden you know, went to you know, More
33:58
Speaker 2: House and he was talking the biggest thing that we
34:00
Speaker 2: took out if it was him talking about the guys
34:02
Speaker 2: in Israel. When when all these things happen, it just
34:04
Speaker 2: seems like we lose the focus of what I'm not
34:07
Speaker 2: gonna say important because that is important, but what's also important.
34:09
Speaker 3: That's why America first resonates with people.
34:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, one hundred percent. And who's that is
34:14
Speaker 1: that Trump's thing? Yeah, that's Trump's saying and that's Republicans thing.
34:18
Speaker 1: I mean, they're completely full of shit. But yeah, I
34:20
Speaker 1: know why they say that, you know, yeah, it's that's
34:24
Speaker 1: why in twenty twenty eight, even now though, but that's
34:27
Speaker 1: why in twenty twenty eight we need a whole at
34:28
Speaker 1: the top of the ticket. We need like people to
34:31
Speaker 1: constantly bring it back here. Like the fact that federal
34:34
Speaker 1: minimum wage is seven twenty five an hour. When I
34:37
Speaker 1: first got the Congress, we tried to raise it to fifteen.
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Speaker 1: We couldn't do that. It's crazy. The fact that we
34:42
Speaker 1: don't have a federal paid leave program like and other
34:46
Speaker 1: developed countries have paid leave. You you know, you have
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Speaker 1: a child, you get to stay home with your child
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Speaker 1: X amount of time. I'm I'm really radical with this.
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Speaker 1: I think you should have like two years paid person.
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Speaker 1: That's right because Russian back it's a Russian rushing back
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Speaker 1: to work with three months or a few weeks. That's
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Speaker 1: breaking a sacred bond between mother and child.
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Speaker 2: The only problem with that is is if it's a
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Speaker 2: small business, it hurts.
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Speaker 1: If it's a.
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Speaker 2: Major corporation, correct, it's a little different. But if it's
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Speaker 2: a small business and you got three employees and that's
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Speaker 2: one of your biggest employees that handles things that she
35:22
Speaker 2: can't be out for two months, two years, because yeah,
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Speaker 2: you would have to pay and then bringing somebody else.
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Speaker 1: The federal government step in. We wouldn't be calling on
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Speaker 1: the business to do it. The federal government needs to
35:33
Speaker 1: step in and do it. That's why we support universal
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Speaker 1: health care Medicare for all, because small businesses are really
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Speaker 1: hurt by this. They gott to provide health care so
35:41
Speaker 1: the employees that really hurts their bottom line, if the
35:42
Speaker 1: federal government took that from them, had a single pay
35:45
Speaker 1: of system, they wouldn't have to do that. And so
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Speaker 1: these are policies that if implemented accordingly, we're going to
35:50
Speaker 1: have incredible economic results because now we got generations of
35:56
Speaker 1: children who are not growing up in trauma because their
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Speaker 1: mama is home with them nurturing them, or because we
36:04
Speaker 1: have universal childcare to take care of them. But instead
36:08
Speaker 1: what we have is a system that's everything based on
36:10
Speaker 1: open free market capitalism, and so we don't have enough childcare.
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Speaker 1: So you got kids growing up in trauma, and those
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Speaker 1: are kids who end up in the school of prison pipeline.
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Speaker 1: So if we did it right, not just with that policy,
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Speaker 1: but others. You will see economic growth tremendously, right. You
36:25
Speaker 1: will see a decrease in jail and police costs because
36:29
Speaker 1: you don't need it as much. And you will see
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Speaker 1: a decrease in health care costs because guess what, when
36:34
Speaker 1: your brain develops accordingly, because you're not dealing with trauma,
36:36
Speaker 1: you have better overall health outcomes. Again, this is research
36:41
Speaker 1: look up adverse childhood experiences and aces, research projects done
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Speaker 1: many many years ago in the medical field. And so
36:47
Speaker 1: we need scholarship and humanity to drive our politics. Right now,
36:53
Speaker 1: we have big money and war and fucking racism driving
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Speaker 1: our politics.
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Speaker 4: I'm glad you said. I'm glad you brought up the
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Speaker 4: minimum wage too. I was in Florida Saturday. One of
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Speaker 4: my book sign as a sister named Kim. She had
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Speaker 4: a broke leg and she was like, this is why
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Speaker 4: Joe Biden is gonna have to earn my vote, because
37:09
Speaker 4: he didn't fight hard enough to get federal minimum wage increase,
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Speaker 4: and he didn't fight hard enough to pass voting RECs.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean.
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Speaker 4: When you actually talk to people, when you actually travel
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Speaker 4: the country and talk to people, Yeah, yeah, you get
37:21
Speaker 4: to really see what's on people This.
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Speaker 1: Is why he and his people got to go talk
37:25
Speaker 1: to pet right, right, because again like like I could
37:29
Speaker 1: say right because I know a little bit more, not more,
37:32
Speaker 1: but different perspective because of in Congress, I would say
37:35
Speaker 1: the Joe Mansion thing, and also the Supreme Court shit,
37:38
Speaker 1: right like and what they've done with voter rights and
37:40
Speaker 1: other bills. But again like that, like I don't want
37:45
Speaker 1: to hear I ain't voting shit. The system don't work
37:48
Speaker 1: for me. The system don't work for us historically because
37:51
Speaker 1: of racism and all the shit, and that's kept us away.
37:54
Speaker 1: So we haven't been able to build power. We have
37:56
Speaker 1: to build power right now going forward so that we
37:59
Speaker 1: don't have this this dilemma where we're picking too candidates
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Speaker 1: where most people won't like either one of them. We
38:05
Speaker 1: have to build the power in our communities and in
38:08
Speaker 1: our political system so that we are deciding who the
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Speaker 1: next president is, next governor and next county executive, next mayors,
38:14
Speaker 1: but also the down ballot and in between. People go
38:16
Speaker 1: back to the static day before forty thousand black and
38:19
Speaker 1: Latino men in the district have never voted. They could
38:23
Speaker 1: have decided when you so in the west Chester County
38:26
Speaker 1: when you decide who the county executive is. That person
38:28
Speaker 1: has a two point three billion dollar budget. That person's
38:32
Speaker 1: going to make decisions about that budget. If you are
38:35
Speaker 1: voting engaged in the process, you could then be like, yo,
38:38
Speaker 1: you better put money over here. We vote in your
38:40
Speaker 1: ass out of office. When you go walk through parts
38:42
Speaker 1: of Yonkers, you think you walk through something one hundred
38:45
Speaker 1: years ago, like go Yonkers, YMCA, YWCA, Mount Vernon was
38:49
Speaker 1: in girls club. It's a travesty that these it's these
38:54
Speaker 1: organizations look like they haven't had any investment in one
38:57
Speaker 1: hundred years. And if I go to again of all
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Speaker 1: parts of my district, right Scottsdale, but they're YMCA after
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Speaker 1: Hurricane I was built again in like a month two
39:06
Speaker 1: months because they got the resources to do it and
39:08
Speaker 1: it's state of the art, while we got to keep
39:10
Speaker 1: not having stated the ardship. I want to stay the
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Speaker 1: odd ship for all people, but particularly historically marginalized people
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Speaker 1: in my district, Mount Vernie, Yokos, the Bronx, et cetera.
39:19
Speaker 1: But all over the country, where do they go to us?
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39:26
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39:38
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39:53
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Speaker 1: the next twenty seven days, but definitely before early voting
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Speaker 1: June fifteen.
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Speaker 2: All right, we appreciate you for joining us. Before you
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Speaker 2: walked in, Jess and I were talking about, you know,
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Speaker 2: Trump pulling up on your district. Yes, and what did
40:07
Speaker 2: you think about that, especially with the sleepy hollow.
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Speaker 3: Is just like, oh my god, he's about to talk
40:11
Speaker 3: for another ten minutes.
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Speaker 5: He pulled a bit of district. What did you think
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Speaker 5: about it? So it wasn't my district. It was the
40:19
Speaker 5: South Bronx South, So it wasn't my district. I mean,
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Speaker 5: Trump is a fucking clown, like his whole shit. He's
40:26
Speaker 5: a caricature and that's how he acts, you know, and
40:30
Speaker 5: that's how he behaves.
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Speaker 1: So everything with him is the show's there. It's the bullshit,
40:34
Speaker 1: And so I ain't really you know, my sister shout
40:37
Speaker 1: to AOC. She went out there and did account of protests,
40:39
Speaker 1: and I know other local elected officials did count of protest,
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Speaker 1: but he said twenty thousand. It was like thirty five
40:44
Speaker 1: hundred there, like it wasn't really twenty He's a clown.
40:47
Speaker 1: I hope he goes away literally, you know, gets held
40:50
Speaker 1: accountable for what he's done. But uh, I just I
40:54
Speaker 1: just can't wait to move forward from him and MAGA
40:56
Speaker 1: and raise the consciousness of the people.
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Speaker 2: Man as Congressman Jamal Bowman, we appreciate you for joining
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Speaker 2: us this morning.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir.
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Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Wake that ass up
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Speaker 2: in the morning.
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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club