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Mistletoe Murders Season 2, Episodes 5 & 6 · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a Hallmark review podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 2: Megan and I'm a longtime Hallmark fan.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Wendy. I'm a former Hallmark hater.
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  Speaker 2: Today we're discussing the season finale of Mistletoe Murders Season two,
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  Speaker 2: episodes five and six, twas the Fight Before Christmas. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: So thanks, ladies. I know Aiden, I know Aiden too, Hey, Aiden,
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  Speaker 1: I know she you know I recently posted something about
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  Speaker 1: Missell's Home Murders with decaption of Amy and Travis who
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  Speaker 1: and she's she's a big, big time Amy and Travis fan.
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  Speaker 1: And she's like yeah, She's like what And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. But are you well that you know?
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  Speaker 1: That brings up a question for you? Yes, what do
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  Speaker 1: you say? Do you like this series? I know it's
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  Speaker 1: hard because it's a series and mystery one on one
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  Speaker 1: was you know a movie franchise with a lot of movies, right,
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  Speaker 1: uh huh? Are they comparable? They're both great?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, there's recency bias, So right now,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, we're talking about the finale, and I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 2: we have to wait another year if we even get
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  Speaker 2: a season three. Right, So, right now I'm a little
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  Speaker 2: more caught up in Mistletoe murders.
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  Speaker 1: I do love them both, though. Yeah, now here's my
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  Speaker 1: pick fa Oh No, I'm not going to do some Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I've already received a lot of hate this week, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna just dial it back in the controversial topics.
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  Speaker 1: I do have a question for you. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: Mistletoe is on par with The Way Home in terms
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  Speaker 1: of like production in quality? And do you think it's better? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: They're so different. Yeah. My question to myself is like
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  Speaker 1: I'm truly asking myself. Do I like this show better
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  Speaker 1: than The Way Home? And I love The Way Home?
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  Speaker 2: I might, But I also I tend to forget something
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  Speaker 2: that I'm not actively immersed in. Yeah, and it's been
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  Speaker 2: a while since we've been immersed in new seasons of
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  Speaker 2: the Way Home. But I might like this more.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I don't know either. I mean
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  Speaker 1: I might be singing a completely different tune when the
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  Speaker 1: next season of the Way Home comes out.
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  Speaker 2: So can we really briefly talk about the Way Home. Sure, Hey, friends,
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  Speaker 2: Megan here interrupting myself to let you know that this
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  Speaker 2: discussion we're about to have was recorded prior to the
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  Speaker 2: official announcement about The Way Home dropping. So while we
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  Speaker 2: do now know that season four on The Way Home
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  Speaker 2: will be the final season, we didn't know that at
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  Speaker 2: the time of this recording. So if you're screaming at
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  Speaker 2: the podcast, don't worry. We know, but we left the
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  Speaker 2: discussion in so you could hear our thoughts on the
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  Speaker 2: Way Home and how sad we were in anticipation of
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  Speaker 2: this announcement, and how sad we are now knowing that
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  Speaker 2: the rumors are true. There are some rumors, and they
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  Speaker 2: are just that purely rumors, that The Way Home will
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  Speaker 2: be canceled after season four. I don't know where that originated,
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  Speaker 2: but the people that are perpetuating them are saying that
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  Speaker 2: the actors were told in the second or third episode
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  Speaker 2: to the end that they would not be returning, and
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  Speaker 2: therefore the show is not getting it now. I have
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  Speaker 2: no idea, but there's a lot to unpack there.
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  Speaker 1: One like, are they ending the series because they don't
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  Speaker 1: have any more story to tell? Right? Have that? That's
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  Speaker 1: what's happening, or is Homework potentially canceling it because it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't do well. I can't buy into that, considering the
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  Speaker 1: huge push they made for like an Emmy nomination for
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  Speaker 1: that show, Like I wouldn't be I can't imagine they'd
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  Speaker 1: be like, well, never mind, we're giving up on the.
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  Speaker 2: Show, and now that it's on Netflix, like they're not
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  Speaker 2: going to look and see what happens with season four
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  Speaker 2: on Homework.
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  Speaker 1: After all these seasons are.
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  Speaker 2: On Netflix, and right I could see the show's done. Right,
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  Speaker 2: we've told the story we ended at season four. Based
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  Speaker 2: on our podcast listening numbers, I'd be shocked if the
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  Speaker 2: viewer numbers for The Way Home are not great. I
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  Speaker 2: know that they suffered a little bit this past year
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  Speaker 2: because of the way that they released them and they
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  Speaker 2: had to change up their plans. I did hear rumors
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  Speaker 2: that it wouldn't air until after When The Heart, which
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  Speaker 2: honestly I don't think is a terrible idea. Just have
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  Speaker 2: one series running at a time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because last year it was The Way Home on
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  Speaker 1: Friday nights and when Calls The Heart on Sundays, is
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  Speaker 1: that correct? Yes? Yeah, they need to move this show
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  Speaker 1: back to Sundays, Yes for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so just have one series at a time that
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  Speaker 2: works for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 2: So that's out there. That's a little Hallmark News segment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't there like a petition or something going around?
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  Speaker 3: There is?
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  Speaker 2: There is a change dot org petition, but it's all
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  Speaker 2: based on rumors.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: If anybody has any concrete information, slide into the DMS
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  Speaker 2: and let us know what you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we won't expose you, but if you have like
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  Speaker 1: juicy details, Yeah, we're full of secrets. We are. We're
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  Speaker 1: just like Gretchen Wieners. Our hair is full of secrets.
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  Speaker 1: Great poll.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hear a synopsis for Mistletoe Murders episodes five and.
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  Speaker 1: Six, Twas the Fight Be four Christmas Part one and
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  Speaker 1: Part two. Emily shelters a suspect while investigating a fancy
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  Speaker 1: restaurant owner's murder to prove their innocence. Sam is rattled
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  Speaker 1: by his ex wife's unexpected arrival. Question Mark, was he
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  Speaker 1: seems very old? Emily and Sam investigate a murder before
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  Speaker 1: a Christmas restaurant event. Emily faces danger, shares her past
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  Speaker 1: with Sam, and stops running Violet bonds with her mother.
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  Speaker 2: Ken Coopris is the creator and writer of Mistletoe Murders.
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  Speaker 1: All of our regulars return for episodes five and six,
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  Speaker 1: Sarah Drew, Peter Mooney, Sierra, Marilyn Riley, Gene, June, Kylie Evans,
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  Speaker 1: and David Hewlett. The only one missing is June. She
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  Speaker 1: did not repeat right. June did not appear.
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  Speaker 2: Tommy Amber Pierre plays Carrie. Tommy Amber has fifty eight
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  Speaker 2: acting credits and has been seen in several episodes of
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  Speaker 2: Ginny and Georgia, Murdoch Mysteries, and Children Ruin Everything.
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  Speaker 1: Milton Barnes plays Danny. Milton has a list of acting credits,
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  Speaker 1: including appearances in This Spenser, Sisters, Murdoch Mysteries, and most recently,
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  Speaker 1: the Fox drama doc.
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  Speaker 2: Al Mucadam plays Jason. Fans will recognize Al from his
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  Speaker 2: role as Brady on The Way Home BTW loving the
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  Speaker 2: long haired Al Mucadam in this episode Me Too. He's
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  Speaker 2: also recently appeared in the series Ghosts Doc and Hearts
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  Speaker 2: Around the Table Jenna's First Love All in twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: Danny Kind plays Lauren. Danny is probably best known for
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  Speaker 1: her role as Anne in All seven seasons of work
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  Speaker 1: in Moms. This isn't her first appearance on Hallmark, though
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  Speaker 1: she also appeared in Goodwitch and the twenty fifteen movie
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  Speaker 1: On the Twelfth Day of Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: Olivier LaMarsh plays chef Jean Mark fun fact he is
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  Speaker 2: actually from Montreal. With forty six acting credits, This appears
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  Speaker 2: to be his first Hallmark project. Natalie Brown plays Violet's
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  Speaker 2: mom Monica. Natalie has over one hundred acting credits with
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  Speaker 2: a resume deep with Lifetime and Lifetime adjacent movies. This
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  Speaker 2: looks like her first time on Hallmark. Special guest star
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Ashmore plays adult. Aaron has a lengthy resume, including
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  Speaker 2: stints on Lock and Key, SkyMed, and as Gil on
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  Speaker 2: Ginny and Georgia.
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  Speaker 1: Parts one and two were written by Michelle Ricci. Michelle
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  Speaker 1: is No Stranger a to a Hallmark with twenty plus
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  Speaker 1: writing credits. Michelle wrote episodes three and four on season one.
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  Speaker 1: She also wrote several movies from the Hayley Dean Mysteries franchise,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of episodes of Private Eyes and most recently,
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  Speaker 1: Curious Caterer.
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  Speaker 2: Forbidden Fruit. Parts one and two were directed by Melanie Or.
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  Speaker 2: Melanie has thirty directing credits, and has previously directed the
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  Speaker 2: season one finale episodes, as well as the first two
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  Speaker 2: episodes of season two. Her other work includes The Spencer Sisters,
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  Speaker 2: Sullivan's Crossing, and Children Ruin Everything. We're gonna take a
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  Speaker 2: quick break and come right back with our first impressions. Hey, Wendy,
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  Speaker 2: what is your first impression of twas the Fight before Christmas?
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  Speaker 1: The real suspense in these episodes was waiting to see
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  Speaker 1: if Sam would actually ask Emily out right.
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  Speaker 2: My first impression is say it isn't so. I can't
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  Speaker 2: wait another year for more installments of Mistletoe Murders.
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  Speaker 1: I know six episodes is not eat enough. Nope, give
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  Speaker 1: me eight at least twenty two. Bring it back like
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  Speaker 1: the old days. Twenty two episodes. Yeah, yes, gosh, could
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  Speaker 1: you even imagine? I love it? Uh, this is let
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  Speaker 1: me just fawn over the show for a minute. It's
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  Speaker 1: so good and I know I say that every week
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, Wendy, shut up. You don't have anything
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  Speaker 1: other to say than it's so good. But it is
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  Speaker 1: so good.
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  Speaker 2: And really is so good, and the viewer numbers are climbing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in climbing.
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  Speaker 2: I believe they were in the nine hundred thousand range.
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  Speaker 1: Oh look at that. Wow. Also, you know, I know
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  Speaker 1: Peter Mooney has been in some movies, some Hallmark movies, ones.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if we've reviewed or not, But my
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  Speaker 1: point is he's never really done anything for me. But
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  Speaker 1: as Sam, I'm like, oh, do I need to do
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  Speaker 1: a Peter Mooney deep dive? Right? I know? I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, where did this leading man come from? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: He's so good.
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  Speaker 2: Sam and Emily. The chemistry between them remains unmatched for me.
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  Speaker 2: His facial expressions in reaction to Emily, like at the
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  Speaker 2: beginning when she's like.
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  Speaker 1: Coffee with the friend, What a concept?
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  Speaker 2: And she's like devastated by that, and he just reacts mildly.
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  Speaker 1: That scene, Yes, so good. And then there's so many like.
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  Speaker 2: Your first impression, the push and pull of them where
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  Speaker 2: he just keeps trying to get there and he just
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  Speaker 2: can't get there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Sam, so great. Well, what's so great about that too,
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  Speaker 1: is like Emily knows what's happening, Like she's fully aware,
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  Speaker 1: like he's gonna ask her out, but like he just can't.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it just it is so great. It is
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  Speaker 1: so great. I just love that that she's she's not
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  Speaker 1: like this damsel who's unaware, Like she's smart. She's fully
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  Speaker 1: aware of things. I it she's almost like the perfect character. Hmmm,
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  Speaker 1: slightly flawed, but like with good intentions. I just okay,
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  Speaker 1: all right, let's talk about what we liked about these
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  Speaker 1: two episodes. Okay. I was super invested in the characters
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  Speaker 1: this week, like the mout he introduced characters. No, just
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  Speaker 1: like their story. Oh h and I'll talk about it
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  Speaker 1: in a second, but like the mystery part of it
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  Speaker 1: was totally secondary for me in this episode. In these
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  Speaker 1: two episodes, I was so happy that we were getting
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  Speaker 1: movement on Sam and Emily, like they're moving somewhere, right,
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  Speaker 1: We're not just in this like holding pattern. We get
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  Speaker 1: way more on Emily's backstory, which I loved, and then
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  Speaker 1: of course we get the return of Aaron, which at
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  Speaker 1: times I actually said out loud. I was like, he
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  Speaker 1: scares me. He's scary. That actor plays a real piece
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  Speaker 1: of you know what on Ginny and Georgia too, so
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  Speaker 1: I think I might be bringing a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: that into it. But the character of Aaron really worries me.
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  Speaker 1: I was very worried the final scene, if we may
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  Speaker 1: just jump to that, look, you know something bad is
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  Speaker 1: coming because she's so happy and she's like, I can't
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  Speaker 1: wait for Sam to come up here. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: just know, you just know. And then when she is
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  Speaker 1: in a stranger she has let her guard down. Oh no,
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  Speaker 1: the second she lets her guard down, he gets in.
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  Speaker 1: It's so good.
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  Speaker 2: You know you talked a lot about our characters in
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  Speaker 2: this episode, Can I tell you? For some reason, I
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  Speaker 2: really loved the ray in Emily's apartment scenes. There's something
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  Speaker 2: so this is gonna sound odd, so cozy and warm
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  Speaker 2: about them, which I fully understand is incongruous for several reasons.
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  Speaker 2: One she's hiding him as the result of the fact
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  Speaker 2: that he's a suspect in a crime. And two he
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  Speaker 2: broke into her apartment, which is a little bit creepy.
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  Speaker 2: But their friendship and just her having somebody there something
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  Speaker 2: about it really worked for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I love this relationship, and I love that he's
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  Speaker 1: such a bigger part of her life this season two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's really just such a part of the town
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  Speaker 2: and everybody's life so much more than season one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not this like shady guy that like works
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  Speaker 1: in this like, you know, I thought it was a
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  Speaker 1: electronics store. Apparently it's furniture. Anyway, it gives it to me,
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  Speaker 1: is giving like a father daughter relationship, like a trusting
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  Speaker 1: father daughter relationship there, you know. I As I say that,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, do we know the real backstory of Emily's parents?
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  Speaker 2: I think they actually did die in like a car accident.
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  Speaker 1: I think so, Yeah, I think that's true. I can't remember. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I love those scenes where he's like taking care of
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  Speaker 1: the cats and like whatever I find him. I find
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  Speaker 1: Ray very enjoyable me too.
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  Speaker 2: Can we talk about Emily Slash Grace's scenes from the past. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: First of all, I loved how much we got of that,
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  Speaker 2: But I have some questions for you. At the end
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  Speaker 2: of last episode, we had said, flashing to the boarding
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  Speaker 2: school scene where we discover money has been taken in there,
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  Speaker 2: teacher has been framed, we assumed Aarin was behind all.
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  Speaker 1: Of that, right.
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  Speaker 2: Aaron confronts her in this episode and he's like, when
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  Speaker 2: she finds out that he's been skimming money off the
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  Speaker 2: top and setting money aside, and he's.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I had to.
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  Speaker 2: She's getting worried that they're gonna get caught and he's like,
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  Speaker 2: remember all those years ago, I had to protect you,
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  Speaker 2: I had to set her up to protect you. And
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  Speaker 2: then she says, but I didn't steal that money, right, So.
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  Speaker 1: Who did I still think Aaron? Did I think Aarin's
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  Speaker 1: gaslighting her? Oh? Interesting? Interesting?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I think I don't know exactly how to describe it,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sure it has a name for it. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, like when your abuser has like a calm syndrome. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think Derek, Derek, I think Aarin is definitely the
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  Speaker 1: one who did it now in you know, after seeing
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  Speaker 1: this final episode. Yeah, I definitely think so, because we
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  Speaker 1: already we see in those younger scenes of Emily and she,
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  Speaker 1: you know, she's stealing from a billionaire to give to
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  Speaker 1: people who actually deserve, like a Robin Hood Gak situation. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't think her motives. She does not strike
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  Speaker 1: me as that she was doing things with ill intention,
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  Speaker 1: even back in high school. Yes, I agree, I agree.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you think Aaron was just gaslighting her like
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  Speaker 2: I was protecting you even though Yeah, yeah, yeah I do.
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  Speaker 1: I do. I am glad that we did get confirmation
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  Speaker 1: on that, like that that thread was tied because I've
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  Speaker 1: been thinking about it all week.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, what my as I mentioned, my neighbor and his
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  Speaker 2: family are all in on this show. He had texted me.
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  Speaker 2: He was like, hey, Jack, who's his twelve year old son.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, he'd really like me to ask you to
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  Speaker 2: use your Hallmark influence to get more episodes of Mistletone Murders.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, we get right on that.
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  Speaker 2: But I said, curious, what do you think of that
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  Speaker 2: Emily Aaron exchange and who do you think stole the money?
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  Speaker 2: And he said, we one hundred percent are a unanimous
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  Speaker 2: agreement that Emily was the one behind it.
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  Speaker 1: So oh that was interesting. Oh why? I mean, I'm goodding.
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  Speaker 1: If Kim cooperis is listening, I'm gonna need him to
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  Speaker 1: shoot us an email. We'll keep it a secret. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: we'll keep it a secret, just like let us know
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  Speaker 1: what the inside baseball is here, you know. I also
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  Speaker 1: saw on Reddit somebody was saying like, oh, I loved
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  Speaker 1: Emily until she framed the teacher, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: we don't know that to be true. Yeah, I'm like, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: like Emily is not the bad guy here anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think they're painting her kind of
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  Speaker 2: like on the edges of the law, right because we
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  Speaker 2: see her like she is breaking the law. She is
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  Speaker 2: stealing this money, but in her mind, she's stealing it
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  Speaker 2: order to do good, to redistribute it because these people
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: have gotten their money in ill gotten ways, and so
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: she's it back to the people who they've harmed in
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: many ways, and so she's, you know, kind of like.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: In a bit of a gray area.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I have another clarification question that I would like to
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: ask you. When she and Sam are on their date,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: he says, were you a cop? And she says intelligence?
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Yes? Was it your.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Understanding that she was officially working with like the CIA? Like,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I find it very hard to believe that this person
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: who was arrested and then working as an informant becomes
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: an actual employee or is she just on her own
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: running her own secret operations trying to find aarin.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good question. I went back because
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I went back to the part where she was arrested
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: and I was like, who's technically arresting her here? Yeah?
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Was that ever clear? Of? Like? No, what agency is
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: arresting her? Uh huh, It's not clear to me.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: And then they she has that interrogation and they're like,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: thank you for working with us, this will work well
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: in your favor.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know. I kind of love the idea
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: thinking that she's some sort of spy agent or something
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because she says it seems to me in the
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: end when she's saying, as far as the world is concerned,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Grace is gone, and she said I was given the
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: chance to start over with a new life. So it's like, oh,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: she's kind of in witness protection. Yeah, yeah, in an
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: official capacity. So all of those details. I am very
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: interested in the details of how all of this works.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: And for me, I'm like, no, wait, tell me more.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I need all the details. Well, I think hopefully we
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: in another season. We sure. This is where I'm like,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I need to spoil. I have to listen to the
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Audible series over the Christmas break. I'm gonna listen. I'm
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: gonna binge too. I'm hoping I get more, more answers,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: more clarification. There are very few shows that I just
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: want to eat up, but this is one of the
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited to sit down and watch. I cannot
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: get enough. I cannot get enough I don't know if
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: you remember, but when we did season one, when we
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: reviewed season one, there was a scene, a fight scene
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: between Emily's Oh can we talk about it? Asked, I
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: literally was going to ask you if you thought it
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: was better Emily Sarah Drew as Emily kicked ass in
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: the scene in the knife scene. Oh my god, it
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: was so good.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: It's so funny, because in my notes, I loved the
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: staging of the fight scene in the hallway with the knife,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: and I even loved like a little bit of humor
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: where the other girl grabs a knife. She's like, well
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: that hardly seems fair. So funny. But I was wondering
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: because I specifically remember you feeling like that Graveside fight
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: scene was a little hokey.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, not so much. Here. I don't know what happened,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Like maybe they hired some fight coordinator or choreographer or
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: she was on the Sydney Bristow regiment and I don't know,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: but she kicked ass and I loved it. I loved
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: it five stars for that alone. I thought that was great,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: super great. Another thing that I really liked I loved
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: that actress Danny Kind was in these two episodes for
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: somebody who loved Working Moms. I loved that show. If
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: you've never watched it, it is not Hallmark by any means.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: A little bit racy, a lot of racy, and a
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: really douchebag Victor Webster. Isn't it as well? Like watch
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: it you might like it, but so hot in it though, totally.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: But Anne, the character Anne was always kind of like
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: angry all the time, like just had this simmering intensity,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: and I thought that actress Danny kind brought that a
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: little bit to this character of Lauren as well. I
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: just thought it was great casting. And when I was watching,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I was like, Dan kind of was a redhead. Yeah,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: and Moms and I'm watching this and I was like,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: her mannerisms are so familiar to me. And I was like,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: there's no way that's her from Working Moms. There's no way.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: So then like I I amd beat it, and sure
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: enough it was her, and I was so excited, so excited,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I could not.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: For the first half of the episode, could not place her.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I said, I know her, and it was just like
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: right at the tip of my brain and I could
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: not access it. And then as soon as I realized
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: it was working moms. It all fell into place. But
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: she was great in this. I agree. I thought so too.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I have a couple more likes. The freezer scene was
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: a real highlight for me. Yeah, you know, I guess
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: it's not uncommon when there's like high stakes, when like
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: you don't feel like you have nothing left to lose,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: You're just gonna say what you're gonna say, right. I
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: just thought that this was such a great scene, A
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: huge moment of trust between Emily and Sam and she
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: shares like what her real name is and he doesn't
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: push for more. I just thought it was so good
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: and then they kiss and I gotta tell you this
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: solid eight, solid eight on this smoochimeter.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: For me, I thought it was really nice too, really nice.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: And I you know me, I've got like such a
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: filthy mind. I was like, look, that is one way
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: to keep some heat between the bodies if you guys
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: are cold, So let's get to it. They're trying to
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: stay alive with bodness sinks. Speed it up. I was like,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: you want to die just next to each other or
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: do you want to get naked and create some warmth.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Let's do it and at least enjoy your last moments
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: on Earth exactly exactly. Well, It's like, isn't nearly as
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: exciting as yours? Okay, but I did really enjoy diving
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: deeper into Violet's character, Oh, meeting her mom, understanding the
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: pressure her mom was putting on her, violin.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Finally guilt, the guilt I felt watching the me too,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Me too.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: But I thought it was a great way to deepen
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: our understanding of Violet as more than just Sam's daughter
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: and Emily's employee at the Mistletoe, and that she finally
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: just talks to her mom about it and has a
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: conversation with her, and she and her mom come to
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: a nice place. I thought the character of Monica, you know.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I liked that she.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: And Emily seemed to come to an agreement and when
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: she asks Emily about Sam, and Emily finally is like,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: oh can I plead the fifth? I thought that was nice.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: It could have very easily gone contentious.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to talk about it some more in
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: my wishes, Okay, but yeah, I hear you.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: But I'm glad that we got to meet her and
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: she didn't just exist offscreen. And mostly I liked it
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: for learning more about our girl Violet.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Violet was peak Violet for me in episodes three and four, Like,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I loved her little quirkiness. This, this was nice, Like
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: we get to understand Violet a little bit more. I'm trying.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Did she say she was going to take like a
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: gap year, like she was going to figure it out?
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Seems like it. Yes, Yeah, I'm like, okay, this is
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: how is this gonna explain? Why why she's around? Still
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: around next year? I mean, even if it's Christmas break
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: and she was away at college, she might be home
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: by then, but you know you can't send your one
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: of your very few characters off to college. No, she's
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: an integral What if I'm like, what if she ends
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: up doing work for Emily? I got it, but my
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: death that's the case. Anyway. Do you have any other likes? No,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: let's talk wishes all right? For me? The mystery itself
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: was my least favorite of this season. Oh, I I
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: think the show. I'm not super interested in the mystery movies.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: We've said it time and time again, like sometimes they're
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: they're just not executed well all the time to convolute
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: it did too many red herrings details that just wash
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: over me, and I have liked all of them this season,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: and in season one is this is the one that
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I was like least interested in I was in, I
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: was not interested until it all came together. But like
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I said before, like I was so invested in the
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: characters and like their own storylines than the mystery itself.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: It's interesting that you say that because I actually like
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: this mystery so much more than last week's. And I
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: think because it wasn't overly convoluted in my mind. There's
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: a last minute reveal, of course, of why everything was
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: happening the way it was happening. But I liked the
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: pieces of the mystery. I think they serve, like you said,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: better to move our main characters forward than anything else,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: because Emily and Sam find themselves in the freezer, and
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: we get the Emily and Ray together, and all of
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: these things work to keep our character storyline moving forward.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: And I did think it was secondary to the main story,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: but I didn't find it distracting from the story. Oh
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not distracting either. Definitely secondary maybe even third what's tertiary?
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, I did like the like the fake chef situation though,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, fake French when they like call him out,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: He's like, actually, like the drop of the accent. Oh,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: it was so funny. Yeah, it was so funny, very funny.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Do you have any more wishes? I do? I just
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: a couple of little ones. Back to Monica Sam's ex.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I had it in my notes last week, but I
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: don't think I brought it up on the podcast. I
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: had written down. Oh, I'm interested to see if Sam's
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: X comes back into play because we got like the
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: whole setup of like he gave her socks as well, right,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: you know all that storyline. I was like, oh, he
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: did really love her at one point, like and then
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: she comes back and there's like nothing. I was like,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: give me a glimmer of a conflict, nothing, like nobody's
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: threatened by her, Emily's not threatened by her, She's not
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: threatened by Emily. Like nothing.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, it's funny because they had so
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: many opportunities to build jealousy in and when the trivia
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: scene for me is the most telling, when she realizes
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: that Emily's not at trivia with Violet. She really had
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: an opportunity to turn Violet against Emily, and she didn't.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: She just used it as an opportunity to spend time
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: with her daughter.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: It's almost too wholesome. Maybe yeah, yeah, maybe I think
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: you've hit it on the head there. I agree. I
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: agree one other thing too. I hate that this is
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: a wish. But you mentioned earlier that scene where Sam
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: and Emily and she says something about like, oh, coffee
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: with a friend whatever, right, and the look on his face,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: and then after their whole freezer conversation, Emily kind of
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: gives him an out about like going on on a date.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, no, we're headed down this
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: road of these like miscommunication, missed the opportunities. I'm not
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: going to act on it. And I wanted Sam to
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: be like, no, you're not hearing me this. I wanted
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: more than this.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he was a little too quick to give
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: in to her brushing, like she was giving him an
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: out and he was a little too quick.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: To accept it. Correct But the gazebo moment, like course corrected,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: So I was fine, Like it wasn't like this full
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: dragged out you know, season three storyline. Yes, yeah, that's it.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: My wishes say.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I wish for nothing but longer seasons, more episodes and
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: November twenty twenty six to come.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Quickly, right, they need to start. Well, it's November nineteenth.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: When did it start? It started like right after Halloween, right, yes?
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Can it run like all of November and all of
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: December with this twelve US six weeks of episode?
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, please please? Well let's talk. Did you see that?
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I have just two let's hear them. Drunk suit is
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: a gift? No notes. I thought she was freaking hilarious,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: so good and so kind of like anti homewark. Yeah,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: she's used so sparingly, but she's used so effectively. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't recommend the meat love this week. It just great.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: My other thing is there were containers in the freezer. Now,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: at first I was like, oh, they're just in like
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: a walk in refrigerator. But there was these containers in
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: their refrigerator that had a November date on them. It
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: said like eleven slash whatever. And but now thinking about it,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well no, Initially I was like, oh a
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: November date on those things. This is supposed to take
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: place like closer to Christmas, so those would be kind
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: of like out of like they would be spoiled. But
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: if they were in the freezer. Then I guess it's
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: okay that they went into the freezer for a November date.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's when they but maybe that's when they were yeah,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: purchased or created or yeah, exactly exactly.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, look at that. I could
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: see it's right there, like they have the timing all
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: messed up. But now I think they're actually in a freezer,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: and that would make sense if they were. Those items
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: were created on those dates and put into the freezer
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: at that time.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: So that's all my didity. That's are just a few
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: things that I liked. I loved Brooke saying the Christmas
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Store is staying open all years, seems like a bad
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: business model. I loved Emily saying thanks Uncle Buck to
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Ray when he makes a big stack of pancakes. Yes, yes, yes,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: I just loved the trivia scene overall. I like the
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: inclusion of trivia and I thought that was fun. And
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: I loved the opening scene with the fight and then
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: we flash back a week and then come back to
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: that at the end. I loved the staging of that. Yeah, overall,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: fan frea fantastic. What did you rate this duo of episodes?
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Five stars?
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Five stars? For me, it's so good. You know, if
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: you recall you rted episodes one and two A four
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I think maybe four and a half because you were like,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I need like room to grow, Yeah, but easily came
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: home with a five. Yeah. Yeah, I think so too.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: It's spectacular. Bring it back, Bring it back. I'm telling
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: you I'm gonna throw on an audible right now. Yeah. Yeah.
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