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Coaching Operation & Young Players Debut | Jaguars Happy Hour · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, August eighth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour
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  Speaker 1: and now a guy with the look of an Olympic
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  Speaker 1: artistic swimmer, J. P. Chackick, and welcome in. It is
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on Thursday, August eighth. Preseason week one
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  Speaker 1: is here. The Jaguars and the Kansas City Chiefs coming up.
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  Speaker 1: And here's what's coming up on the show today, Chiefs Jaguars.
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  Speaker 1: Both teams playing their starters in the first quarter, at
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  Speaker 1: least we'll get to that coming up, a first chance
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  Speaker 1: for the coaches to work on their operation during a game.
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  Speaker 1: There is a new defensive staff this year, so who's
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  Speaker 1: talking to who? At what point we'll talk a little
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  Speaker 1: bit about that. The young players making their debut under
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  Speaker 1: the lights for the first time in the NFL. And
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  Speaker 1: we'll hear from the head coach Doug Peterson on You
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  Speaker 1: Guessed at the Doug Peterson Show that's at five o'clock
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  Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Radio Network, the best of his press
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  Speaker 1: conference from earlier today. We're on ten to NEXL ninety
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  Speaker 1: two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. Also
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  Speaker 1: hit us on x at JP Shadwick at Logs five six.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Logoman with me now here in the Hyundai studios
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  Speaker 1: of the Miller Electric Center. Good afternoon, Jeff, Good afternoon,
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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon. How you doing. I'm well. Are you ready?
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  Speaker 1: It's game week? Are you ready for some football? I
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  Speaker 1: think I've heard that song before. Well is it real football? Though? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's better than no football. The first you know, a
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  Speaker 1: couple drives it will be right, well, I mean kind of,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean it's not. It's not. It's not real yet,
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  Speaker 1: but it's it's close enough to kind of feel the
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  Speaker 1: need that you've been that itch or whatever that you've
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  Speaker 1: been wanting to scratch. Scratched it an inch, So I
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  Speaker 1: like it from that standpoint. I also, look, I love
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  Speaker 1: this time of year just because you know, you see
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  Speaker 1: a lot of new players that you've been watching throughout
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  Speaker 1: the offseason, and you think you have an idea of
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  Speaker 1: where they are from one watching their college film and
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  Speaker 1: then two laying your eyes on them in person and
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  Speaker 1: then through training camp. But until you get into a
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  Speaker 1: game type situation against quality talent, Okay, on the other
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  Speaker 1: side of the field, it's hard to really understand exactly
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  Speaker 1: where a player is gonna fit. You might have an idea,
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  Speaker 1: and the coaches might have an idea, but the reality
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  Speaker 1: is you really don't until you see the lights get bright.
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  Speaker 1: Chief Saguars game presented by ticket Master, the official ticket
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  Speaker 1: marketplace of the Jacksonville Jaguars and the National Football League. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Andy Reid said it earlier this week that he'll play
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  Speaker 1: the chief starters in the first quarter or standing, which
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  Speaker 1: he normally does. And Doug Peterson used to work for
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  Speaker 1: Andy Reid, you might have heard, so he takes that
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  Speaker 1: same idea a lot of times. And so that means
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  Speaker 1: the world champs will be in town Saturday night with it.
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes on the field for a little bit and
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  Speaker 1: some of those frontline players against the a new look
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars defense and vice versa Jaguars offense, Trevor Lawrence against
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  Speaker 1: that Chiefs team. Are you surprised, because I am okay,
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  Speaker 1: we've seen I don't know. The fines came out from
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  Speaker 1: the Detroit Giants practices, the two hundred thousand dollars fine
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  Speaker 1: for each team for fighting. Are you surprised? Andy Reid
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  Speaker 1: and Doug Peterson have a relationship that goes back right
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  Speaker 1: many years. Aren't you surprised that there was no practices
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  Speaker 1: with the Chiefs this week leading up to the preseason game.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I kind of take this
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  Speaker 1: and I haven't talked to anybody about this. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: spectat neither. I have just full speculation. If I'm the
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  Speaker 1: world champion Chiefs, I'm not going anywhere. Why would you
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  Speaker 1: go somewhere else? You know they're gonna come to us.
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  Speaker 1: Good point. Maybe that's the wrong perspective. I don't know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And maybe they're doing it next week against another team.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know they're schedule after this, so maybe they've
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  Speaker 1: set it up differently. I know the Jaguars are next
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  Speaker 1: week the Buccaneers. The Buccaneers and what two days of
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  Speaker 1: practice and in the game. I'm looking forward to that.
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  Speaker 1: That's hopefully there's no uh, there's no fighting going on. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the league with the two hundred thousand dollars, fine, I
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  Speaker 1: guarantee you that Doug Peterson is going to be having
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  Speaker 1: a conversation with his football team because I know if
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  Speaker 1: I'm the head coach, I don't want my pocket booklet
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  Speaker 1: getting any lighter. I mean, look, I like my money.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to keep it that way, like to keep
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  Speaker 1: that money in my pocket. But you know, sometimes in football,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of testosterone, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of positioning, so to speak. You know, they got
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  Speaker 1: alpha dog and alpha dog, and there can only be
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  Speaker 1: one alpha dog. What's the second dog? Whoever? You figure
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  Speaker 1: out who the alpha is, that's a great question. Beta
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  Speaker 1: dog is that's a great question. Is that the second
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  Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that. I'm gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to gts it. The depth chart released for the first
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  Speaker 1: time in the first game release of the season, and
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  Speaker 1: we heard from defensive coordinator Ryan Nielsen this week. He
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  Speaker 1: asked about the first defensive depth chart his first season
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  Speaker 1: with the Jaguars, and he said, you know what, the
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  Speaker 1: depth chart is etched in sand. Great line, great line,
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  Speaker 1: but is it really you know what, here's the reality
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  Speaker 1: the top part. No, here's the reality. The lineups are
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  Speaker 1: always etched in sand in the National Football League. And
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  Speaker 1: the reason why because if you've get another player who's
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  Speaker 1: better than said player that's in the top of the lineup,
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  Speaker 1: the reality is he's going to get replaced if Trevor
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  Speaker 1: Lawrence all of a sudden and this is obviously just hypothetically. Here,
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  Speaker 1: let's say all of a sudden, Mac Jones came in here
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  Speaker 1: was just lighting it up, I mean lightening it up,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And he was an undrafted guy. And Trevor Falters,
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  Speaker 1: you know, has a couple of bad games, turns the
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  Speaker 1: ball over all of a sudden. This other kid goes
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  Speaker 1: in maybe in one of those games, and lights it up,
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  Speaker 1: leads the team to the NFL's greatest comeback. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: could you not maybe foresee a change. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you never know. I'm just saying is that performance always
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  Speaker 1: speaks louder than what the card says as far as
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  Speaker 1: lineups go. But the other thing that I will point
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  Speaker 1: out that Ryan Nielsen brought up and I thought that
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  Speaker 1: this was I thought this was outstanding. He said that
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  Speaker 1: if you have pads on on game day, we consider
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  Speaker 1: you a starter and that you have to play. And
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  Speaker 1: the one thing that is for certain with his defense,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna roll that defensive front end waves this year.
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  Speaker 1: I really believe that. You know, in the past, under
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  Speaker 1: Mike Caldwell, they would have kind of the main guys
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  Speaker 1: would play the bulk of the snaps and the main
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  Speaker 1: guys you might consist of six or seven guys. If
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  Speaker 1: there's eight or nine guys active on game day on
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  Speaker 1: the defensive front. With that four to three, they're all
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  Speaker 1: gonna play. They're all gonna play one hundred miles an
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  Speaker 1: hour and then get out and then the next guy
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  Speaker 1: go in. But the bulk of the snaps are still
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  Speaker 1: going to go to a Josh and a Trayvon. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but they're gonna roll, I think, more frequently than what
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  Speaker 1: they have done in the past, and I like that.
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  Speaker 1: But they're not gonna roll it like corner Tyson. Campbell's
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  Speaker 1: not gonna like go out for you know, three series
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  Speaker 1: in the game. You know, but Josh Allen, Josh Heinz
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  Speaker 1: Allen may end up coming out for three series in
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  Speaker 1: the game for somebody else. Kevin Gibson to say that, Trevis,
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  Speaker 1: Trevis Gibson, Yeah, thank you. But yeah, so yeah, everybody's
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  Speaker 1: gonna play, and I like that. That's what it should be.
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  Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hours into XL ninety two point five FM,
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. This will also be our
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  Speaker 1: first chance to see Doug Peterson and his coaching staff
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  Speaker 1: going through their mechanics for the first time. We'll hear
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  Speaker 1: more from this from Doug Peterson and The Doug Peterson
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  Speaker 1: Show at five o'clock today. But I asked him today
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  Speaker 1: in his press conference about Ryan Neils a great question,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, great question, would he be upstairs or downstairs?
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  Speaker 1: He's like, you know, I don't know. He really thought
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  Speaker 1: about that. It was awesome. But then he followed it
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  Speaker 1: up with his own answer, saying that Press Taylor, as
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  Speaker 1: he had answered earlier, Press Taylor will be calling plays
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  Speaker 1: in the preseason, Press Taylor will be downstairs, which is
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  Speaker 1: a new development. So Press Taylor will be on the
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  Speaker 1: sideline calling offensive plays, and that gives them an opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to make corrections a little quickly and a little more quickly,
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  Speaker 1: and the adjustments will be there. So I found that
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  Speaker 1: fascinating that we're two days out. What was fascinating to me. Again,
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  Speaker 1: Doug does not like the question about who's calling the
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  Speaker 1: right his face when I think it was Hayes Carl
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  Speaker 1: I got him today. Oh he just he just gets
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  Speaker 1: this like he's got a sour look on his face
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  Speaker 1: just for a second, and then he's like, Okay, here
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  Speaker 1: it is and you just swallowed a line. But I
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  Speaker 1: thought he had a great answer when he talked about
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  Speaker 1: and explained what it's like to be calling plays in
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  Speaker 1: the booth versus on the sideline, and I thought it
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  Speaker 1: was very revealing. I loved his answer. He said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when you're on the sideline. Some things that he pointed out.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was like four points that he pointed out.
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  Speaker 1: You can have conversations directly with the players, you can
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  Speaker 1: feel the pulse of the game, you can make corrections immediately.
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  Speaker 1: There was one other thing, and I forget what it was,
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  Speaker 1: but it essentially it's a big difference, and that by
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  Speaker 1: being there, you can be there. On the flip side
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  Speaker 1: of that, what he didn't talk about. There's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of coaches that I've talked to about why they like
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  Speaker 1: being in the booth is that as a play caller,
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  Speaker 1: you can take the emotion out of the game, and
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  Speaker 1: so you detach a little and so you're watching it
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  Speaker 1: from kind of that all twenty two Schematically you can
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  Speaker 1: see the scheme. You're detached from the emotional part of
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  Speaker 1: the game and you're just trying to make the best
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  Speaker 1: call for your team. So I think there's something to
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  Speaker 1: be said that there's positives and negatives on both sides
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  Speaker 1: versus being in the booth and then also being on
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  Speaker 1: the sideline. And this will be new for Press Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: The one thing though, that you do have to have
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  Speaker 1: after many conversations that I've had with coordinators that make
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  Speaker 1: the calls through the years, is that they said, if
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  Speaker 1: you're going to be on the sideline, you have to
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  Speaker 1: have somebody that you trust, that is your eye in
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  Speaker 1: the sky, that can give you the information that maybe
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  Speaker 1: you would normally glean yourself from being in the booth.
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  Speaker 1: And that's critical. So who would that be for Press
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  Speaker 1: Taylor don't know the answers to that. I mean, they
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  Speaker 1: might just be working through that, you know, because it's
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  Speaker 1: the first time doing it. And same thing with Ryan Nielsen.
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  Speaker 1: Now you have you know, if Ryan's on the field,
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  Speaker 1: is christa Shard in the booth. I would imagine it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be one or the other. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: Christmashard would be able to stay beside himself in the booth,
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  Speaker 1: like he's that kind of energy guy. He needs to
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  Speaker 1: be on the field. He's the coach that wears cleats
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  Speaker 1: on the practice the bottom three I think, by the way, right,
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  Speaker 1: come on, so it'll be fascinating to see it. It always is.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, this is the part of the year. The
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  Speaker 1: preseason games are a test for some of the stuff
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  Speaker 1: and if it doesn't work, they'll try it different next
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  Speaker 1: week and the week after then they'll figure it out
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  Speaker 1: for week one. And that's a great point. It is
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  Speaker 1: it's a it's an exercise, it's a test. And as
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  Speaker 1: a coaching staff, you think you have an idea of
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  Speaker 1: maybe how you want to do things, but until you
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  Speaker 1: actually touch it, feel it, execute it, then you know.
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  Speaker 1: Then you make the call. But it's good, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's good having that flexibility. And by the way, I'm
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  Speaker 1: so fired up that this first preseason game is the
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. I mean, this is the this is
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  Speaker 1: the and in the National Football League, I mean this
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  Speaker 1: is two times looking to be a three peat champion.
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  Speaker 1: Arguably has four of the best players at their positions
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  Speaker 1: in the National Football League, and then numerous others that
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  Speaker 1: are I would consider top five at their positions. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is a great I'm gonna say it's a measuring
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  Speaker 1: stick because it's a preseason game. They're not scheming for that, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, so you can't look at the scoreboard and go, ah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we lost. For yeah, if the Jags defense
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  Speaker 1: shuts out the starting Chiefs offense, you're gonna hear about it. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you know. But but again, they're not game planning. They're not.
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  Speaker 1: But that's just the way it's gonna be. But what
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  Speaker 1: I like about it is, and for me, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: more of the film that you get from it. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so they have really good players, and so what you're
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  Speaker 1: trying to do is figure out the players that you're
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  Speaker 1: going to have played during the regular season. So getting
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  Speaker 1: an evaluation off your players that are facing really good players,
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  Speaker 1: that's what you're looking for. That's the magic of having
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  Speaker 1: this matchup in the first preseason game. It's not a
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  Speaker 1: matter of Okay, we scored twenty points against Kanas City, Well,
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  Speaker 1: you might have scored twenty points against kan City when
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  Speaker 1: they sat Chris Jones down or maybe never played him
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  Speaker 1: at all, and they also sat a whole bunch of
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  Speaker 1: other guys down and they ran one coverage for those
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  Speaker 1: twenty points. I mean that some teams do that, they
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  Speaker 1: don't play game plan coverages as a defense and then offensively.
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  Speaker 1: And here's the other reality. Ryan Nielson's got the gift
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  Speaker 1: of surprise a little bit here. What's this really gonna
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  Speaker 1: look like? Yeah, exactly, so you know, And I think
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  Speaker 1: the depth chart kind of speaks a little bit to that,
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  Speaker 1: just in my opinion. But my point of that is
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  Speaker 1: is that look, he's gonna have a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: an advantage for a little bit, okay, for a hot minute,
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  Speaker 1: and that he can go into Week one against the
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  Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins and maybe Mike McDaniel doesn't know exactly what
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  Speaker 1: he's going to run as a defense as far as
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  Speaker 1: personnel and what positions, what kind of coverage. Because when
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  Speaker 1: you put a new staff together, even though they can
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  Speaker 1: go back and they will look at your film from
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  Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons, the reality is is that when you
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  Speaker 1: have new coaches that come and join this guy that
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  Speaker 1: came from Atlanta. There's always going to be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a blend and a little bit of difference
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  Speaker 1: from the previous stop in Atlanta. How long is a
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  Speaker 1: hot minute technically in the NFL? Yeah, about a week
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  Speaker 1: and a half about it. That's about I guess that's
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  Speaker 1: about right, you know, because I mean once you get
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  Speaker 1: it on the film, I mean, and everybody's kind of
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  Speaker 1: got an idea. And you know the other thing too,
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  Speaker 1: that we're looking forward to JP, and I know we're
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  Speaker 1: going to get to this the kickoff stuff, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the new kickoff stuff. And JP was a celebrity this week.
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  Speaker 1: He was was I asking questions of uh, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I had a question I answer. It was a great question.
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  Speaker 1: By the way. The former NFL official who now is
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  Speaker 1: in the league office, Walt Coleman, who was an outstanding
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  Speaker 1: of in the National Football League, longtime official, he did
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  Speaker 1: a great job. One thing he didn't clarify that I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to try to get clarified and we'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: this later though. I'm going to talk to some of
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  Speaker 1: the officials prior to the game, but also JP next
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  Speaker 1: week when the Bucks are in town. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: have the advantage of the officials are going to be
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  Speaker 1: here in training camp, and so we'll be able to
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  Speaker 1: have some conversations with them as well. Go get some
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  Speaker 1: answers these I don't know about answers, but I love
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  Speaker 1: that the league does that that they give They give
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  Speaker 1: media members points of emphasis about So I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean you're getting ready to call a game
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  Speaker 1: and you want to make sure that you're accurate, and
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  Speaker 1: because if you're not, then I think you're doing a
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  Speaker 1: disservice to the broadcast audience. Log I know you and
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  Speaker 1: we've been there before together? Yeah, a few times? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: They do a lot of things together, you know, they're families.
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  Speaker 2: And I do think that there's the more you spend
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  Speaker 2: time with people, this is why I do things like
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  Speaker 2: in the off season with the team. The more we
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  Speaker 2: can do things together and share experiences together, I think
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  Speaker 2: it just becomes stronger bond, you know, with individuals and
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: with your you know, with your teammates, and you begin
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: to sort of understand the other person a little bit more,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: how they think and and and it's you know, it
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: shows up on the field.
• 17:35
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  Speaker 1: the Doug comment there about team building things and the
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: question that he answered there was more about Christian Kirk
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence and then it morphed into more of
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: a team answer. But the connection between teammates, yes, and
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: just a real quick thing like in the off season,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Doug Doug does a great job with this and that
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: they do team building things. For example, they've done paintball.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: This past offseason, they did a bowling thing to where
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: they went to the bowling lanes and had a full
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: blown competition. And I know that the Jaguars, the Hunt
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Cisco was kind of big into that and was trying
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: to act like he was a good bowler, but he
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: was really not a good bowler. Really. Yeah, it didn't
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: look very good. He didn't have very good form. But
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: but you know, look Trevor, I'm sure he was dressed
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: well though. That's fine, He's always That's what I'm saying.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: That's fine. Yeah, but the relationship between Trevor and Christian
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: is pretty unique and special. I mean, these guys play
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: golf together, their neighbors, their wives and themselves get together,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: and I mean that's a that's a that's a pretty
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: big deal. And and you can tell that the relationship
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: is strong just to why the way that those two
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the way they connect on the field, you can tell
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: that those two guys they got something. And at some
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: point you'd like to say that Gabe has kind of
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: something similar. And I'm not saying they need to be
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: the best of friends off the field. But the more
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: that you can build that relationship off the field, I
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: think the more the relationship, the stronger it is to
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: weather tough times when you're on the field, whether it's
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Gabe Davis or Brian Thomas Junior. Now Brian Thomas Junior
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: is gonna have to come out of a show a
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: little bit. My question is how long does that take?
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I mean for a rookie especially, but even Gabe Davis,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: a guy who's been in the league. You can go
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: work it all off season and everything, but you don't
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: really know until the season gets you right. Yeah, well,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: but I mean, look that they're putting in the work now,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Gabe Davis and Trevor Lawrence and Brian Thomas. So I
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: think does it take more of regular season stuff? Sure
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: it does. It. The more you get, the better you're
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: gonna be. But with Gabe Davis, he's had a lot
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: of snaps with a really good quarterback in Buffalo, so
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I think the time that it takes to develop that
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: relationship is much less than it's going to be with
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: a Brian Thomas junior. Gave Davis is a total pro
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: by the way, total total pro. Some of the things
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: that he does when you watch the film on him,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: and I'm not talking about just in practice, but watching
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: him in the past when he has been in Buffalo,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: the little things that he does to get open down
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: the field are amazing. He's crafty, incredibly crafty. He is
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: a great compliment to this offense. And I said this before,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it again. If I had a choice
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: between Gabe Davis and Calvin Ridley and the money's equal,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I'm taking Gabe Davis in this offense just because he's
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: somebody different. And by the way that you hear Trevor
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: lauding Parker Washington today and this press conference, absolutely okay,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Parker Washington's another reason why he didn't need a Calvin Ridley.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Parker Washington is going to be a good football player
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: for this team. I think this wide receiver group is
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: going to be really interesting to watch. The part that's
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to watch for me is last year
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: in the preseason, Elijah Cooks was I think the highest
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: rated player according to PFF in the preseason, which okay,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: it's PFF, and but the reality is other teams are
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: going to notice that where does he fit? Where does
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: he fit? Where does Tim Jones fit? Tim Jones a
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: good special teams player, really good special teams player. Once
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: you get passed four guys, that fifth guy, he's got
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: a ball on teams now, I mean he's got to
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: be really good on special teams. Ken Ken Elijah Cooks
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: be that guy special team and break through that. Yeah,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: it's a good question. I don't see him being better
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: than Tim Jones. Gabe Davis, Christian Kirk, Brian Thomas Junior,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Devin DuVernay four. Yeah, and DuVernay's kind of a little
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: bit of that. Uh. I guess it's similar to thirty
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: nine last year. Jamal Agnow he has but he's more
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: of a polished receiver than a and he's going to
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: be active on game day because he can play special team.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: He's a returner. Right, So that's four. That means you
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: got two spots left for Parker Washington's five. He ain't
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: go anywhere. And then so there's really one spot if
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: you're keeping sings, and that one's got to be special teams.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Got to be a special team. Tim Jones is the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: kind of the incumbent in that role. Tim Jones does
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: a great job on teams. I mean, it's just you
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: can't ignore that. I mean, can you imagine going to
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: your coaches and saying, you know, hey, you know, look,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I get it, Luke and Heath. You know that you
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: guys want to have you know, Tim Jones, but you
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: know we're thinking about keeping somebody else who's not as good.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, that doesn't work for me, right, because
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: the time he's going to see the field in theory
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: is special teams. Yes, all the receivers are healthy and going.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: And for example, and I think you bring up a
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: great point. Okay, let's let's focus in on Elijah Cooks
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: here for a minute, not to be critical of him,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: but if he's going to be active on game day
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: as a wide receiver, who was he going to replace? Yeah,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Gabe Davis, who you're sitting down, not gonna be gay.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: It would have to be an injury situation exactly. So
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I think he's one of those guys that, barring an injury,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: between now and the final cuts, you almost don't want
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: to get a whole lot of snaps in the preseason
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: so you can slip them onto the practice squad. Came
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: over there, What do you need to see out of
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior. What would be an ideal first preseason
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: game for the first round pick. I want them to
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: just I want to I want to see that he
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: knows where he's supposed to be and that there's a
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: little bit of chemistry starting to build with Trevor. The
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: one thing I think with a young player that's still learning,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of times, it's hard to play fast, and
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: one of the greatest assets that Brian has is that
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: he's fast. It's hard to play fast when you're thinking.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: And I think the more that he learns, the speed
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: that he has and the speed that he showed at
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: LSU will become more prevalent, more visible. But in the
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: first preseason again, I want to see him, Yep, Number one,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: stay healthy. Number two, get a couple of balls, you know,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: one to let him gain some confidence, to let him
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: kind of move past that hurt. Okay, you know, all right,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: now I've maybe a couple of catches in the National
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Football League. Okay, now let's just get to work instead
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: of you know, if he doesn't get a couple of balls,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: he still had that anxiety of maybe getting that first
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: one or the first couple. So I just want to
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: see him get a couple of balls and look good
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and stay healthy. It's felt to me the last week
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: or so we've seen more of him making catches in
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: training camp practice. Yes, the first week was a little quiet. Well.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: He talked about how he's getting more comfortable. The way
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: to get more comfortable is just throw the ball to him.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I think they I think they press him a little
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: bit and I think you got to see him play.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: The one thing I will say about him, and one
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: of the biggest adjustments in the National Football League for
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: wide receivers is is the detail of route running. It's
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't think about this because
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: people think of wide receivers where they get the ball
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: thrown to them, they catch it, and then they just
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: run down the fields. There's an intricate, intricate amount of
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: details to route running which enables the windows to be bigger.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I think that's something that's going to take some time
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: to develop with him because in college a lot of
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: times these guys that can just fly like Brian, they fly, okay,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: it's not the intricate details. Like Gabe Davis is a
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: crafty right, I was talking about him earlier, So I
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: think it will take a little bit of time. But
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: he's a smart guy. He's hard working, he's been there
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: every day. I like his work ethic. But I can't
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: wait to see him go route, take off with maybe
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: a little utter go or something like that, because he
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: can fly. I mean he can he can roll roll roll.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Watching him at LSU, that's all you had to do there. Well,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: who's the other guy? Who's the other guy that was
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: there with him that got drafted higher than him. We've
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: had a couple of waves of guys come through there.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: There's been like it been wide receiver you it seems
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: like but the guy that he was with his past
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: year got drafted ahead of him, and I might have
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: taken Brian over him. Was Washing, Yeah, he was at Washington.
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  Speaker 1: we have heard of Josh heinz Allen and Trayvon Walker.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: What's after that? What is that second wave of pass rushers?
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Great question. We'll get into that when we come back
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: and Shagars Happy Hour.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: I feel like it's me great. We're playing for straight
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: four and I feel like with me playing with my
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: hand in the dirt, I feel a lot more explosive
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: and I feel like I can just play ball now.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: You can miss any part of dropping in the coverage.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Oh I mean no, no, not at all. But I
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: mean the more you can do, the more the better.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: So whatever my.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Teams need, it's Trayvon Walker form. We're number one overall.
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• 28:42
  Speaker 1: five to six on x Pass Rush. By the way,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Trayvon's getting a lot better watching him in practice. How
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: so he's he's really doing a good job of working
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the edges of the of the offensive tackles and offensive
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: line because there the rub against him was that he
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: was running between the numbers of the tackle and not
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: having any moves. He was just a bullrush trying to
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: be a power bull rush guy. But and you know,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: and he's strong enough that he can do that at times.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: But look, everybody's stronger when you have a guy off balance.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: You know Reggie White, which his name came up with
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Doug Peterson today. We'll talk to him about that at
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: some point. But Reggie was one of the strongest guys
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: to ever play in the National Football League. But his
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: legendary hump that he had was so damaging because he
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: always had them running an off balance and then the
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: power that he showed was because he had them off balance.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: It wasn't that they were expecting to get humped and
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: that they could stop it. Like Larry Allen was like,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: you know what, I've got him stopped and then got
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: thrown in the air like he was off balance, off
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: got thrown. So the great players, strong players like Trayvon,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: find a way to keep the offensive lineman off balance
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: so that when they go to the strength, the strength
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: is really good, really good. And part of his problem
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: has been as a young player sometimes you got to
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: learn that because in college you can overpower guys at
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: this level. That doesn't work all the time, if hardly
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: at all. And so he's doing a really good job
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: of staying on the edges of guys in camp, and
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: you can really see that he is staying at tent
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: of to that because in the one on one pass
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: rush period, he's trying different things to stay on the edge,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: and I love it. Instead of reverting back to I'm
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: going to overpower this guy and go down the middle
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: on him again, He's continuing to work it and that's
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: what I love about him. Trayvon has got great work ethic.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, this team has two guys and Josh and Trayvon,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: that have an incredible work ethic. And it's awesome to
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: have two guys that because it's going to be a
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: naturally competitive situation between the two of it, two of them,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: and it's going to make both of them better. The
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: conversation you're referencing, Doug Peterson this week was asked about
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: on The Rich Eisen Show, which player does Josh heines
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Allen remind you of when it comes to work ethic,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: and Doug Peterson mentioned Reggie White, which is an amazing compliment.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: We've been saying for a number of years about how
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: good of a guy that Josh heines Allen is in
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: the locker room. But also, I mean just one of
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: the highest quality guys. You could ever have a foundational
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: building block character guy for this organization. And that's it's
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: high praise because you know, Reggie White was one of
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: the great all time leaders in the history of the
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: National Football League. I'm talking big time. Like if you
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: surveyed some of the Hall of Fame players and said,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: give me a top ten all time leadership list, I
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: think Reggie White's on that list. And Doug is talking
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: about Josh Heines Allen in the same breath as Reggie White.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's incredibly high praise, incredibly high praise. And
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: here's the thing, you know what, I love it. It's
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: a great learning lesson I think for team building and
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: that let's go back to the beginning point of Josh's
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: career in the National Football League. He comes here and
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: he's got who kalais Campbell correct as a mentor? Yes,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: it just to me. It goes to show you the
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: importance of having those foundational building block, high character guys
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: to raise that next generation so that they can be
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: that for the generation after them. And so it's important
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: that you have one of those guys, I think in
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: every position group, so to speak. And the more you
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: can have. If you can have two awesome, great, but
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I think it's hard and it makes it very difficult
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: if you have a young room as a whole and
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: you don't have any of the veteran leadership. If that's
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: the case, then I think you have to have a
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: very strong coach as far as leadership goes, because he
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: has to provide that for that position group if they
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: don't have one of those type of players like Claus
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars YouTube JP Shadrick with Jeff Flagman. Well, we've discussed
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Josh Heinz Allen of course, and Trayvon Walker, but you
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: mentioned Earl. You're about the defensive line wanting to play
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: in waves this year more so than in the recent past.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: So my question is what did the Jaguars have after
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: those two at the pass rushing edge position. The first guy,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I think, the next guy up right now is Trevis Gibson,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: who they signed in free agency from the Tennessee Titan.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Has been a little bit of a journeyman. I think
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: he's got he's got a really good motor, really good motor.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: He's got some pass rush ability. If you look at
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: all of the guys that have been I think pass
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: rushing in one on one is the win rate. He's
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: probably right there behind Josh and Trayvon. Who's next after that?
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I think there's there's an interesting question. Remember they drafted
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: your Sir Abdullah for a true kind of three four
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: outside linebacker. Yeah, and he's he's kind of cross training,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: so he's playing the sam linebacker position it seemed like.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: And then he's also doing some pass rush, so he
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: could be a guy that could have kind of a
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: dual role. He's got he's still you know, going against
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: some of those higher tackles. When I say higher tackles,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: if he goes up against seventy two or seventy four,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: which you know, you walk a little Cam Robinson, Anton Harrison.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: You know, he's not having the success rate that you
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: know Josh or Tremon is having or even Trevis. So
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: he's I think he's still a ways away now. Sean
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Dixon was a guy who, by the way, had an
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: ACL injury and is going to be lost for the season.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Was waved injured. If nobody claims him, he's going to
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: revert to IR, which is that nobody's gonna claim him.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: And he was kind of competing for that role. And
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: so now with his injury, now you have a position
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  Speaker 1: to fill on your roster that you would like to
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: find somebody that can maybe compete for that role. The
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Jaguars ended up signing a guy that was the UFL
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, Breally Speaks, who is a
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: second round pick of the Chiefs. I think back in
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: eighteen correct didn't really have a great career watch I
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: remember watching him when he was with kan City and
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: very unimpressive. Ended up having substance abuse issues, was suspended
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: by the league four games I think in nineteen and
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: then bounced around to about four or five different teams,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: but never played another game after that point and has
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: been out of the league since so. But I mean,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: if he's a second round pick of the Chiefs or
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: any team for that matter, there's some talent there, shouldn't
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: he And there's some traits there. Here's the question with
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the substance abuse issues obviously probably impeded some of the
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: performance that they expected out of him in Kan City.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Is he over that? Has he matured? You know, you'd
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: like to think, Okay, here's a guy that's matured. He
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: had nine and a half sacks at the UFL level.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Is it the same type of tackles you're rushing against
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. No, but good pass rushes are hard
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: to find. And if he can give you a boost
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and he's not going to be, you know, an issue
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: in the locker room, then you know, give him a chance.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: You know, there's nothing wrong with giving guys second chances
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: as long as you have the intel that tells you
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: that they are not. I was going to use a
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: bad word, a detriment to the locker room. There you go,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: that's a better word. I think I knew where you
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: were going. That was dog poop and the D Yeah, yeah, fine,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: you could have said it. It's not a bad that's
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: not a bad word. I don't think so, turd. You
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: just said it, all right, you you said I could
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: do it, save it. So if I get in trouble,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: it's your fault. Hey, it's yours whatever, man, So I
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: get it. So my final question about this for you,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: this past rush situation. Are you comfortable with the depth
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: of it? Or is there still work to be done? Well,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I want to see our garb Stead back, right. I mean,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: he hasn't touched the field. I don't know when he will.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: You know, the one of the big free agent signings
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: that they got from the San Francisco forty nine ers.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: He's you know, he's six foot six, two hundred and
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: ninety pounds, he's a he's a gigantic presence in the middle.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: He's going to be an interior pass rusher. You So,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I want to see him out there, and we may
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: not see him at all in the preseason, but at
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: some point he's got to start practicing. And uh but okay,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: let's say he's fine and he's the same Eric Armstead
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: that we've seen in the past for the forty nine ers,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: and he's playing well, who, Well, there's got to be
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: another guy. Well, Devon Hamilton seems to be showing some
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: signs that he's getting back as a pass rusher. Yeah. Well,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: most accounts, he's been playing really well in practice. Yeah,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: there's some things though that he's still got a show.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Look you gotta he still got a ways to go yet.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think he's shown some really good things.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not negative on it at all. I just think
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: that they're still little ways to go for him. Mason
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Smith unblockable, really unblockable, the Jaguar second round pick out
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: of LSU. I use the word p the P word
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: with him when after the draft I said he's a
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: guy who's got potential. Sometimes that word is terrible because
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: it means that it wasn't necessarily the other P word,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: which is productive. There's a lot of P words. Those
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: are two of them. The uh, but unblockable is quite
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: a statement. I'm just telling you. He's a rookie, just
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: telling and he's unblockable on the first knocking on wood.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Let me give myself a speeding pass or speeding ticket.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Slow down a little bit. He has been unblockable at
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: times in one on one pass rushka. He's long, they
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: can't get their arms on him. He's got an outstanding
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: swim move, he's got power, he plays the game with
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: lean hmm. I mean, I'm trying not to sound and
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I'm trying not to get too excited. No you're not.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: You think you're overflowing with excitement saying it's uneka. He
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: has been an absolute joy to watch, joy to watch
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: two weeks of practice. Let's go see it in some games.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I'm giving myself a speeding ticket here.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: You are rowing down. It's like you're going down three
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: to one headed towards Gainesville. Coming of Chris Jones, I'm
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: just saying that he has looked really good, really good.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: And he works hard too. He works really hard. And
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: and by the way, yeah, he had the aco at
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: L s U in ear and then last year he
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: was coming back and he was gimpy a little bit
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: for the season. Watching him on film, I don't see
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: any gippiness out of him right now. And he played
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: inside last year. He was outside two years ago. And
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: that's he have a change. He's and he's gonna be
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: an interior pass rusher. You put him on some of
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: these guards that are six foot two and a half
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: six foot three and he's six foot six, six foot seven,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: whatever he is, and got arms that are probably forty
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: inch for leave length. Good luck blocking him. We're back
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: in a moment injury report, our final thoughts, and then
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: at five o'clock it's the Doug Peterson Show. This is
• 41:22
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• 41:35
  Speaker 1: JP Shadwick with Jeff Logman. It's preseason week one, the
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Jaguars and the world champion Chiefs coming up this Saturday night,
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  Speaker 1: Preseason week one, of course, Chiefs coming up game sponsored
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  Speaker 1: by Ticketmaster. Excited for that because yeah, it's gonna be great.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Let's get logs microphone out. What do you think the
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: chances of Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelcey, and Chris Jones all played?
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: If he said starters, maybe I mean playing what a drive.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I put Chris Jones out there,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I put Kelsey out there either.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: To think of it, I wouldn't either. I mean, I'd
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: bubble wrap those guys. But that's just me. But Andy
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Reeve's had a different philosophy. The quarterback, you can always
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: kind of game plan to protect. Yeah, get it out
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: of here, yeah, hand the ball off a couple of times,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: you know, three step balls out of his hands quick
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: so he doesn't get touched. Okay, Well, tight end defensive
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: tackles a little different. You know, it gets a little
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: bit loud where they're at sometimes. Yeah, and you know
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: that those three are those are three guys that are
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: the best at theirsition in the National Football League. Remember
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: trying to block Jones here last year? Poor Anton kidding me.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Not a great job by the Jacks coaches doing justin that.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, but those Would you agree that
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: those three guys are the best at their position in
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: the National Football League at quarterback, defensive tackle, and tight end, Well,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, yeah. Could you make an argument that
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: they're not? You could make an argument for like Kittle
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: at tight end? Okay, from a from a past catching
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: tight end standpoint. But you could make that better with you.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Here's another guy that I would put up in there
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: is the best at his position right now. Because of
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: the retirement of Travis Kelcey. I'd put the center Creed
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Humphrey up there. Of his brother Kelsey, Jason, Jason Kelsey,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: thank you breaking news, Travis, But I would put Creed
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Humphrey right up there at the top arguably is the
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: best center in the National Football Okay, well, Devon Hamilton
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: nose tackle up against it. It's a great it's a
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: great test, great test. Let's go the guard to his left,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Joe Tooney. I would put him in the top five
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: guards left guard certainly in the National Football League. I mean,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: they've got some really really good players on this football team,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: which is what you want to have is a measuring
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: stick to kind of compare your players too. I got
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: to protect that asset back there in the quarterback. That's
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: how fifteen is something else now And by the way,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: for people that don't know, will be a little bit
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: of a reunion of sorts. Carson Wentz, the backup quarterback
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: of the Kansas City Chiefs. About that, Doug Peterson and
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Carson Wentz kind of also, by the way, just kind
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: of along those lines, Nick Foles announced his retirement. It's
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of like kind of news around all though. Yeah,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: so that's kind of the you know, going back to
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: the Eagle Super Bowl win when Doug was a coach,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: he was there. They have a statue in fact, he
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: and Nick Foles together. Cool outside of the stadium. Is
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: that where Rocky statue is at. Not at the art museum,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: It's at the stadium. That's that's the statue. The Liberty
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: bells pretty good too, but that counts. I think that qualified.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: That's the top, by the way, every one time for
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: the injury report presented by Baptist Health, changing healthcare for
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: good well. Doug Peterson today discussed some players who will
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: not be available for Saturday's game. Ezra Cleveland with a
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: heel issue. The left guard will not play. Seems to
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: be trending the right way, just really more of a
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: precaution not put him out there. He's done some individual
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: drills lately, so that's good. Anton Harrison, right tackle, coming
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: off the concussion protocol. They'll hold him out as a precaution.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: On seventhy haven't seen him. He was around today, he
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: had like an arm jersey on was walking around first time,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: so that's good. Just step in the right direction to
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: get him back on the field. It's part of the
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: protocol to have him at least out although he's been
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: really good in camp. Yeah, and and and and just
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: real quick on him. What he played with last year,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: which was a significant shoulder injury. And Tom Harris tough
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: as nails. Tough as nails, love him, love him for
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: what he was able to do last year. Love him.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: So expect Walker Little to get some time at right
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: tackle and Blake Hants probably will be the left guard
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: on Saturday Night. Probably. He's had a like an elbow
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: thing on recently the last few days which he didn't
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: have on early on, and he's he's been having a
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: good camp as well. Another player who will not go
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: on Saturday running back Keillan Robinson tow issue. We have
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: not seen him in pads yet. And for a rookie
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: who's looking for a spot, especially a kick returner kind
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: of special teams, which is jp availability. You can't make
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: the club in the tub, correct, So he will not play.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Stephen Jones offensive lineman with a calf issue will not play.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Rookie defensive tackle Jordan Jefferson from LSU with an ankle
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: issue will be held out. Andrew Wingard, Well, just real quick,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: just before you go to Winger, Jordan Jefferson, you there's
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: an example that you might be able to make the
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: club in the tub. Oh he's gonna make it. Okay,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: pretty good. But just with Kevin Robinson, you know, fifth
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: round pick, and you know they got running backs. Yes, yeah,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Andrew Winger has been out for a little bit with
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: a knee issue. No word on how long that could go.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: All the word the words were from Doug. It's gonna
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: be a while. It's not a good sign. Right. That
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: means Andre Cisco has taken over. You know he was
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: starting safety anyway. But remember Wingard was very involved on
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: special teams. Personal protector on punt PP. Andre Sisko is
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: doing that. Is that p word again? The double there
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: is another there's personal protector. But with Winger also, let's
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: not forget some of the flexibility that they had last
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: year with him in the nickel and dime packages. So
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: I mean it hurts definitely not having him out there.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: But the emergence and again I've been tooting his horn
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: since last year. Antonio Johnson is a really good football player,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: really good football player. Darnold Savage will not play shoulder issue,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: and as you mentioned before, Eric Armstead still on physically
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: unable to perform, so with a knee issue is out.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Shaun Dixon acl going through the waiver process now, and
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Patrick Murtag still on the roster with that ankle fracture.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: So international players. Fortunately, by the way, the Chiefs have
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: two international players. Don't remember exactly, but I was putting
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: the roster of the game board together and I saw
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: that they had two. Doug Peterson show is coming up
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: next five o'clock, No coaching studio. We're gonna have the
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: best of his press conference today. There was a lot
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: to come out of that press conferences. It was about
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: a fifteen minute press conference. Yeah, and so a lot
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: of news to come out of that. And we'll hear
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: from Jaguars rookie defensive tackle Mason Smith. I caught up
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: with him earlier this week. You'll get to hear from
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: your favorite new Jaguar. I love him. I love him,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: And there's real quick just a little bit of a
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I guess to curb the enthusiasm a little bit because
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: I got them. Okay, unblockable in one on ones. Ah Okay,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: And when you play defensive tackle and you pass rush
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: as a defensive tackle, your head's in your bet. No,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I hear the beeping. You don't get
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: those one on one opportunities all the time, but they
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: do happen. You're backing off that hot Tay has been
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: unblockable in one on one. We'll return with Jaguars Radio
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Network coverage of the Doug Peterson Show. Thanks to Joe Fortunado,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Brent Reeber, our entire crew for Jeff Flagman. I'm j P.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Shadwick and thanks for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour.