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Midday Missing - William Russell Gray “Will” · True Crime and Wine Time

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Speaker 1: detail and membership options. Now, guys, today we're back in
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Speaker 1: my home state of Texas and we are going to
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Speaker 1: cover a case out of Sweeney Texas, and guys, I'm
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Speaker 1: going to tell you up front, this case is really
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Speaker 1: frustrating and bonkers. William Russell Gray, also known as Will,
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Speaker 1: was thirty nine years old when he disappeared.
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Speaker 2: He was last seen in Sweeney, Texas.
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Speaker 1: For those of you that don't live here, is just
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Speaker 1: a small town in Brazoria County, but he was seen
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Speaker 1: in his home that he shared with his wife, Christy
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Speaker 1: on October seventeenth, twenty twenty two. Will has brown hair,
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Speaker 1: blue eyes, and he is six feet two inches tall.
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Speaker 1: He's a tall on guys, and weighed around two hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty pounds, and friends and family describe him as
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Speaker 1: a kind hearted man who loved his family and who
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Speaker 1: wouldn't simply walk away from his responsibilities and guys. Today,
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Speaker 1: we have Will's older sister, Beverly Williams, as a guest
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Speaker 1: to help us learn a little bit more about Will
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Speaker 1: and to tell us his story. So, Beverly, I want
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Speaker 1: to welcome you to Midday Missing.
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Speaker 3: Hi. Thank you for having me.
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Speaker 1: No, I want to thank you for coming on to
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Speaker 1: talk with me because I can't imagine and this is
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Speaker 1: easy for you. The whole process doesn't sound like it's
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Speaker 1: been easy. It's difficult and you still don't know. So
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Speaker 1: I want to thank you for taking the time to
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Speaker 1: talk with me on the phone, and then also for
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Speaker 1: coming on today.
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Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, No, it's definitely not been an easy journey.
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Speaker 3: It's not something i'd wish on my worst enemy. And
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Speaker 3: the not knowing is the it's the killer and all
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Speaker 3: of it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I wanted to start because we know
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Speaker 1: he's missing, but I wanted I like to get to
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Speaker 1: know the person and I like to share. So can
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Speaker 1: you tell us a little bit about Will and what
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Speaker 1: he was like as a person and as a brother.
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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, he had like the loudest personality. And
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Speaker 3: when I say loud, I mean Everything about him was loud.
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Speaker 3: He I mean, his laugh, his you know, he was
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Speaker 3: always joking. There wasn't a cashier go through line. Hey darling,
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Speaker 3: Hey honey, you know, it was just there was There
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Speaker 3: was never a quiet time with him around, that's for sure.
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Speaker 3: As a brother, we don't. We didn't get to have
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Speaker 3: your traditional upbringing. I didn't grow up in the same
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Speaker 3: home with him. I was adopted young, but we reunited
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Speaker 3: when he was around five or six years old, and
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Speaker 3: from there we just I mean all the way from
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Speaker 3: hiding him under my bed for my adoptive mom finding
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Speaker 3: them so that he could still spend the night, all
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Speaker 3: the way up until he disappeared. We just we had
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Speaker 3: a bond. You wouldn't, I mean, you get us in
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Speaker 3: a room and you couldn't tell that we weren't together
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Speaker 3: our whole lives. We actually joked, I have a text
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Speaker 3: for me. We joked about how the world couldn't handle
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Speaker 3: us if we were both in the It was just
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Speaker 3: he was just full of life, full of love, definitely
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Speaker 3: deserved better than this.
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Speaker 1: Now, when did you first realize that something might be
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Speaker 1: wrong and that he was missing?
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Speaker 3: His current wife, Christy had called and I knew when
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Speaker 3: I saw her name on my phone. We had had
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Speaker 3: previous conversations, and I actually paused and just stared at
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Speaker 3: the phone. I didn't answer the phone when she initially
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Speaker 3: called my head immediately went to those conversations, and it
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Speaker 3: took me a minute. As soon as she got done ringing,
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Speaker 3: she text for me to call her. So it took
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Speaker 3: me a few minutes to get myself together and then
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Speaker 3: I did call her. At that time, she said his
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Speaker 3: phone was there, his truck was there, but she hadn't
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Speaker 3: been able to locate him. She went on to tell
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Speaker 3: me that there had been an argument the night before
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Speaker 3: over him skimming money from their business account. She told
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Speaker 3: me that that money had been stored over towards Spring, Texas,
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Speaker 3: and that originally she had thought that that's where he
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Speaker 3: was in the morning when he wasn't there, and that
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Speaker 3: she assumed he had went with some VFW buddies. That
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Speaker 3: she said she didn't know, but that now that it
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Speaker 3: was later on in the afternoon that she was starting
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Speaker 3: to worry. Is what she told me.
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Speaker 1: Now, leading up to this, had he said anything or
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Speaker 1: given you any indication YEA, that something was going on.
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Speaker 3: We had actually had a conversation. He did tell me
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Speaker 3: he thought that his current wife was planning to do
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Speaker 3: something and he would not leave without his youngest child.
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Speaker 3: He had a plan in place, an exit plan. It
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Speaker 3: just didn't he didn't get that far. So, I mean,
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Speaker 3: when someone you love tells you you know the things
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Speaker 3: that are going on, and that they themselves are fearful
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Speaker 3: of these things, it makes it hard to think anything differently.
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Speaker 1: Now, if I remember correctly, he had had surgery on
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Speaker 1: his back or something like recently before.
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Speaker 3: That, right, he had had back surgery in September, planning
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Speaker 3: to go back to work at full sixty six in October,
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Speaker 3: with the plan to have the funds to hire an
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Speaker 3: attorney to pursue custody or at least, you know, not
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Speaker 3: lose full custody of his son and his older children.
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Speaker 1: Now, with all of that going on, did he ever
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Speaker 1: say that he was thinking of just walking away completely?
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Speaker 3: Absolutely? Not. Never. He would never leave.
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Speaker 1: His children because he has two other children. Yeah, correct,
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Speaker 1: with his previous that's true, he has two older children.
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Speaker 3: He would never this man, Okay, so he had more
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Speaker 3: than I mean, there was some issues in court going on,
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Speaker 3: but up clear up till the time he disappeared. The
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Speaker 3: man had an abundance of visitation with his children. He
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Speaker 3: drove from Sweeney up towards Houston every Thursday, roughly hour
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Speaker 3: and a half to our drive to spend three hours
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Speaker 3: with his children, to turn around and drive home, just
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Speaker 3: to turn around and go back and pick them up
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Speaker 3: on Saturday and then take them to school on Monday.
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Speaker 3: He did that three sometimes four weekends out of the month.
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Speaker 2: Something was very involved with skills.
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Speaker 3: He was very involved. You're not telling me that all
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Speaker 3: of a sudden, now the blue, these children who meant
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Speaker 3: so much to him now mean nothing, and he'll leave
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Speaker 3: them heartbroken and devastated and always wondering. That doesn't make
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Speaker 3: a bit of sense now.
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Speaker 1: And this just popped into my brain. With him having surgery,
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Speaker 1: was he taken pain medication? Could that have maybe affected
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Speaker 1: his thought process?
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Speaker 3: The last phone conversation I had with my brother was
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Speaker 3: after the surgery, and he was happy and aesthetic that
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Speaker 3: he was no longer on those medications.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so it fixed the problem for him.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. He told me he felt like I mean, he'd
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Speaker 3: been playing basketball. He told me he felt like good
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Speaker 3: as new, like he actually uh said, he he wished
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Speaker 3: he hadn't prolonged the surgery because he could have had
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Speaker 3: it sooner and did not. But no, he didn't like
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Speaker 3: taking the medicines that he was on for it, and
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Speaker 3: and that was another big reason to have the surgery
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Speaker 3: and get back to work. So no, he was not
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Speaker 3: at that time on the pain medication.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So him leaving or just disappearing was totally unexpected
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Speaker 1: to you.
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Speaker 3: I mean the aspect of when someone tells you that
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Speaker 3: they're feel fearful for their life, even though you know
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Speaker 3: that there's a lot of drama going on, even though
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Speaker 3: you know that life is not great and there's violence
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Speaker 3: and that things are happening, you don't. Ever people should,
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Speaker 3: and I hope that people learn from my mistake. People
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Speaker 3: should take it to heart and full on believe the
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Speaker 3: person instead of thinking that that doesn't really happen, because
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Speaker 3: it does, in fact happen, and that's how we're here.
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Speaker 2: It does.
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Speaker 1: And I wanted to stop right here and say I
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Speaker 1: did have the pleasure of talking with Will's wife, Christy
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Speaker 1: last week, and I believe you're aware, but she believes
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent that Will left on his own and
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Speaker 1: that he is in South America. Somewhere, And she did
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Speaker 1: let me know that he was dealing with some testing
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Speaker 1: issues with his ex wife and that she believes that
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Speaker 1: he left so that he wouldn't have to deal with it,
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Speaker 1: and that maybe he was trying to protect his kids.
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Speaker 2: But I'm gathering from our conversation.
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Speaker 1: That you don't believe that Will would just leave his
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Speaker 1: kids and walk away.
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Speaker 3: Never even I'll go out on a limb and say,
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Speaker 3: even if my brother was going to leave, he wouldn't
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Speaker 3: have left his kids wondering. He would have made up something.
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Speaker 3: He would have said, I'm going away for business. I'm
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Speaker 3: going on with a case. He would have said something
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Speaker 3: to the older two children. There was too much going
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Speaker 3: on in the world there for him. There's not a chance,
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Speaker 3: not I have zero out. He would never.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I told you this. I think
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Speaker 1: I may have told Christy. I'm the person that I
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Speaker 1: always believe that when there's multiple theories out there, that
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Speaker 1: the truth lay somewhere in the middle. You know, even
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Speaker 1: if let's just go on on a wild limb and
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Speaker 1: say he was going to leave, maybe he was just
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Speaker 1: going to leave and go to that campground for the weekend,
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Speaker 1: didn't mean he was going to leave forever, right, But
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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that something nefarious didn't happen after that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we've heard of people who get mad and
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Speaker 1: drive off to the store.
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Speaker 2: And then something happens.
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Speaker 1: But what's sad Since he's still missing, we don't know
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Speaker 1: what happened. And because of that, that's why I still
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Speaker 1: felt that we should share this information. Because he's disappeared.
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Speaker 1: You know, he's not there and his kids, you, Christy,
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Speaker 1: everybody needs to know about this. So what actions were
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Speaker 1: taken when it was realized that Will was missing? And
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Speaker 1: how quickly was law enforcement notified?
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Speaker 3: Okay, so Christy called me. That was a Tuesday afternoon.
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Speaker 3: When I got off the phone with her, I did
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Speaker 3: exactly what my brother had instructed me to do previous
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Speaker 3: in conversations, which was contact his father. We don't have
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Speaker 3: a common father, we have a common birth mother. So
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Speaker 3: it did take me a few minutes. I knew his
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Speaker 3: dad's name and aria stuff like that, but it just
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Speaker 3: wasn't It's not like I had his contacted though, right,
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Speaker 3: But he had told me that should anything ever happen,
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Speaker 3: to contact his dad because he told us both everything
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Speaker 3: and if by some chance he missed telling me something.
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Speaker 3: His dad would know what was up, you know, and
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Speaker 3: vice versa. So it took me a little bit to
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Speaker 3: track down his father and I did. I did do that.
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Speaker 3: His father's first reaction was the same as mine. Oh
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Speaker 3: my gosh. He warned us, did this happen? And I
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Speaker 3: told him I think it's I think it's possible. He
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Speaker 3: asked me if I had called the police. I was honest.
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Speaker 3: I said no, I had not called the police. On
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Speaker 3: the off chance I was overreacting due to the previous
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Speaker 3: the courts he had with his old for his older children,
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Speaker 3: the other custody issues. I didn't want to cause waves
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Speaker 3: if I was wrong. I did, however, text my brother's phone,
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Speaker 3: which I knew. She said that she had the phone,
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Speaker 3: but he had an Apple Watch in other ways of
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Speaker 3: communicating if he wanted to. So I did send him
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Speaker 3: a message and told him, hey, you told me what
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Speaker 3: to do, I'm gonna do it if I don't hear
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Speaker 3: from you. Unbeknownst to me, after we got off the phone,
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Speaker 3: his father did call for a welfare check the police.
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Speaker 3: The police went out that evening. From whatever information they
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Speaker 3: were given at the home, they apparently assumed that he
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Speaker 3: went fishing. We as family, I mean, that's what they
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Speaker 3: told his dad, But we as family, we weren't told
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Speaker 3: anything different. Christy never reached back out to say anything.
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Speaker 3: She didn't even tell us that he was fishing or
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Speaker 3: any of that stuff. As a matter of fact, the
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Speaker 3: next morning is when I called the police, okay, and
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Speaker 3: I asked for a welfare check. Unbeknownst to me, his
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Speaker 3: dad had done the one previous. So when they did
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Speaker 3: that welfare check, they come back and they asked me
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Speaker 3: what my concerns were, and I told him the truth.
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Speaker 3: My concerns are. My brother warned me that this may happen.
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Speaker 3: He was fearful of the situation. Now I'm being told
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Speaker 3: he's gone. The officer I spoke to said that he
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Speaker 3: had responded to some of the domestic violence calls at
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Speaker 3: the home and that based off my information and his interactions,
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Speaker 3: he felt a missing person's report was warranted. So one
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Speaker 3: was filed on Wednesday the nineteenth by me.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Now, we won't get into all the domestic violent stuff.
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Speaker 1: But when Will told you that he worried something, what
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Speaker 1: happened to him? Did he give you details or was
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Speaker 1: he just in general? Because they weren't getting along. They
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Speaker 1: were having some turbulent times.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he called me. I mean he told me
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Speaker 3: a lot of details about like arguments and fights and
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Speaker 3: stuff like that. The conversation actually come up because he
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Speaker 3: he was realizing that there was no saving this marriage,
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Speaker 3: that she didn't want to change, like she didn't want
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Speaker 3: to change, she didn't want you know, things weren't going
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Speaker 3: to be better until it was overdone whenever. But he
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Speaker 3: had noticed over time that during fighting she would say
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Speaker 3: that she would do these mean, vulgar, violent things, and
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Speaker 3: then over time she did do them. It's not really
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Speaker 3: uncommon for people to like say things when you're arguing,
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Speaker 3: stuff like that. I know that you can say things
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Speaker 3: when you're mad whatever, but she seemed to almost always
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Speaker 3: follow through eventually. And this particular call came because he
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Speaker 3: had told me that she had started recently saying that
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Speaker 3: she was going to make it so he never saw
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Speaker 3: any of his children again. He said that his reply
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Speaker 3: to her was, you know, sarcastic, Well, a judge's never
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Speaker 3: going to let you do that. Nice try only one
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Speaker 3: belongs to you type thing, And all he got was
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Speaker 3: a smirk. He said about the third time, fourth time,
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Speaker 3: somewhere around there that she said it to him, that
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Speaker 3: he kind of started to get the inkling that and
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Speaker 3: some other activities were giving him the inkling that she
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Speaker 3: was definitely up to something and he wouldn't be surprised
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Speaker 3: if he disappeared soon.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of terrifying, that thought. I mean, that is
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Speaker 1: what has been the most challenging part for you of
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Speaker 1: trying to keep the word out there and getting things
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Speaker 1: to happen and move forward, and also trying to keep
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Speaker 1: hope alive.
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Speaker 3: Well, the distance is a big thing. I believe they
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Speaker 3: counted on the distance. That's definitely a big issue, the
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Speaker 3: fact that actions and words don't match, so therefore nothing's
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Speaker 3: really being investigated.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just they did one search. If I
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Speaker 1: remember correctly, I think either you or Christy told me
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Speaker 1: they did do one search of their property and made
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Speaker 1: sure he wasn't somewhere there on the property.
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Speaker 3: They did do a search there at the property. I'm
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Speaker 3: told that they did not bring cadaver dogs out, so
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Speaker 3: I kind of wish they would have. But at the
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Speaker 3: same time, I told him from the start, I mean,
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Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I told her from the start, I
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Speaker 3: think she's too smart to keep him there. I'm not
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Speaker 3: saying he wouldn't be there now, but I'm saying I
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Speaker 3: think she's smart enough to know that they're going to
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Speaker 3: look there in the beginning at least.
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Speaker 1: Now, has the police investigation revealed any potential persons of
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Speaker 1: interest or has it just remained very broad because there's
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Speaker 1: no evidence about play something happened to him, and there's
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Speaker 1: only no evidence that he did walk away, so it's
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Speaker 1: kind of a blank limbo state.
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Speaker 3: The only thing they've ever told me is that his
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Speaker 3: wife has more answers than she gives and that they
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Speaker 3: need more evidence or proof or information, whatever the case
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Speaker 3: may be, to be able to proceed forward.
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Speaker 1: Okay, now, how is social media helped keeping his own
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Speaker 1: case out there?
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Speaker 3: It is the only way I've been able to get
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Speaker 3: the word out I was told by his wife it
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Speaker 3: was in the news and the media and all that stuff.
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Speaker 3: I knew better, Like I follow, I have people down
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Speaker 3: there like trying to do their best to help, but
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Speaker 3: I mean, it is the only way to get the
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Speaker 3: word out there. And since I've started doing the actual
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Speaker 3: interviews instead of just posting, it has definitely added to
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Speaker 3: the following. It's gotten his face out there more, it's
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Speaker 3: gotten the words spread around, so at least, at the
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Speaker 3: very least people know.
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Speaker 2: That he's missing.
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Speaker 1: I mean sad to say Brazoria County is right next
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Speaker 1: to Hers County. A lot of these cases never make
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Speaker 1: it on the news, right, I mean, it's just sad.
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Speaker 3: It's my brother's case is sad in a lot of ways.
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Speaker 3: People think only women can be abused. People think that,
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Speaker 3: you know, men just walk away, Like there's so many
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Speaker 3: stereotypes in this situation that should just be done away with.
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Speaker 1: And just I mean that can happen to anyone, Yes,
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Speaker 1: it can. How has his disappearance affected you emotionally?
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Speaker 2: Mentally?
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Speaker 3: My life paused when he disappeared. I mean, obviously life
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Speaker 3: keeps moving. You don't have a choice. But I'm not
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Speaker 3: present like I was. I mean, the housewife is stale
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Speaker 3: home grandma, I raised my grand kids for my children.
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Speaker 3: I'm not present like I'm I'm there, but like he's
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Speaker 3: always in the background in my head, like where is he?
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Speaker 3: How do I find it?
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Speaker 4: How do his kids get some answers like there's not
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Speaker 4: you know, like big things, bad things happen, but like
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Speaker 4: he's who I would have called there's no one to call.
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Speaker 3: He's missed my son's wedding. He wouldn't have done that. Like,
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Speaker 3: I mean, there's just so many things that he's not
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Speaker 3: there for now that he would have been there for.
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Speaker 3: And when you have someone that that you love, that
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Speaker 3: you're close to, that has always been your confidant, your
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Speaker 3: entire life, like and then they're just poof gone, and
22:45
Speaker 3: then you're told that they just did this, They just
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Speaker 3: did this themselves, and no harm, no foul, just suck
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Speaker 3: it up and move on. That's not how that goes.
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Speaker 3: That's not that's not how it works. I promise my
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Speaker 3: brother I wouldn't let his kids walk away, let his
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Speaker 3: kids think he walked away. And that is my that's
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Speaker 3: my goal. I don't know what else to do. There
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Speaker 3: is nothing else to do besides keep going until he's found.
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Speaker 1: Now, if Will could hear you or see this, you know,
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Speaker 1: if he is in South America, Argentina, what would you
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Speaker 1: want to say to him?
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Speaker 3: I'll be honest, it's hard for me to do the
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Speaker 3: hypothetical thing.
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Speaker 1: Do you believe he's no longer with us?
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Speaker 3: I don't believe that he would have told me his fears.
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Speaker 3: I don't believe I would have heard the torment in
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Speaker 3: his voice in the last few phone calls. I don't
23:44
Speaker 3: believe that everything that was going on was made up stories.
23:49
Speaker 3: There's police reports to back a lot of it up.
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Speaker 3: I don't believe that he's out there somewhere living in Argentina.
23:58
Speaker 3: He has a pen pal, he's had some navy there.
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Speaker 3: He's not living in Argentina somewhere living his best wife,
24:05
Speaker 3: without life, without his children. It's just it's not But
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Speaker 3: I will say if he can hear me from wherever
24:13
Speaker 3: he is, to just know that I'll always keep pushing
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Speaker 3: to keep that promise. Now, today, tomorrow, fifty years, I
24:24
Speaker 3: mun still be out here telling his story until somebody
24:29
Speaker 3: gives us the closure we deserve.
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Speaker 1: So since say, what do you want to say to
24:34
Speaker 1: encourage the people who know? Because when somebody goes missing,
24:40
Speaker 1: I say, and I know people get tired of it.
24:42
Speaker 2: A spaceship does not come and soon people up.
24:46
Speaker 1: It doesn't freaking happen that way. And we are humans.
24:50
Speaker 1: We cannot keep our mouth shuts, women, men, children.
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Speaker 3: And I believes the stake of a crime is when
24:58
Speaker 3: you let somebody else in on it. And there's no
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Speaker 3: such thing as a perfect crime.
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Speaker 1: But what would you say to those people who know something.
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Speaker 2: And who aren't coming forward.
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Speaker 3: To think about it? If it was you, you, your kids,
25:15
Speaker 3: your family, Like, how would they feel. You don't have
25:19
Speaker 3: to tell on who helped you, don't have to tell
25:22
Speaker 3: on yourself. Just give us him, tell us where he's at,
25:25
Speaker 3: an anonymous call, a tip, give us closure. He's got
25:29
Speaker 3: children that deserve answers. His father's in Vietnam, vet. He
25:33
Speaker 3: does not deserve to go the rest of his life
25:35
Speaker 3: wondering if you'll know what happened. He has a mother,
25:40
Speaker 3: he has other siblings, he has nieces and nephews, and
25:45
Speaker 3: he has family who loved him, who always loved him,
25:49
Speaker 3: And we all deserve some sort of closure. Even if
25:53
Speaker 3: you think he deserved this, we did not.
25:57
Speaker 1: And that's the thing that I think we need to
25:59
Speaker 1: get yet, people to understand it's not just the person
26:02
Speaker 1: who goes missing or if they were killed, It is
26:06
Speaker 1: the family not knowing those children growing up and potentially
26:11
Speaker 1: thinking my dad didn't love me enough to stay, my
26:14
Speaker 1: dad didn't love me enough to fight for me. That
26:18
Speaker 1: is not okay for anyone to do to a child.
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Speaker 3: Well, in this situation, I will say we are lucky.
26:25
Speaker 3: The older two are funny, old enough they know they
26:30
Speaker 3: know their dad wouldn't do this.
26:33
Speaker 2: But I believe he pretty young.
26:36
Speaker 3: I believe he deserves to know that his dad did
26:38
Speaker 3: love him with everything in him and that he would
26:41
Speaker 3: never just walk away.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now I did ask Christy that, so I was
26:47
Speaker 1: talking to her. We talked about it, and she said
26:50
Speaker 1: that she would like to say if he was listening.
26:54
Speaker 1: She wanted to let him know that he has loved
26:56
Speaker 1: and everything is still waiting for him. And she alsa
26:59
Speaker 1: said that if he doesn't want to come home, she
27:03
Speaker 1: asks that he please mail a postcard to her with
27:06
Speaker 1: a phrase or something on it that only the two
27:09
Speaker 1: of them would know, and that if he does want
27:13
Speaker 1: to come home, she is there waiting, you know, with
27:17
Speaker 1: him for open arms. And what I want to say
27:20
Speaker 1: on that, you know, not knowing what happened to him.
27:24
Speaker 1: If anybody is thinking of just walking away from your life,
27:29
Speaker 1: don't do it. Listen to these stories, Listen to what
27:33
Speaker 1: you would be doing to these people. It is something
27:37
Speaker 1: that they will have to every day for the rest
27:40
Speaker 1: of their lives. Wonder are you being fed? Is somebody
27:43
Speaker 1: doing something to you that is cruelty, and if you
27:47
Speaker 1: love somebody, don't do that. Don't do that. And to
27:52
Speaker 1: the people who know what happened to him, you need
27:56
Speaker 1: to do the right thing. Because well has three children
28:01
Speaker 1: who miss their father, and we're seeing these pictures of
28:04
Speaker 1: these adorable kids. I mean, they miss their father and
28:10
Speaker 1: they love their dad, and for their sake, I hope
28:14
Speaker 1: that if you know where he is, that you will
28:16
Speaker 1: say something. There are ways to do it anonymously. You
28:20
Speaker 1: don't want to tell on yourself, I get it, you
28:22
Speaker 1: don't want to tell on a friend.
28:23
Speaker 2: I get it.
28:25
Speaker 1: Think if those were your children, or think if it
28:28
Speaker 1: was you. Think of you being a child and one
28:32
Speaker 1: day your mom or dad just goes away and you
28:35
Speaker 1: don't know where they are. So I really want people
28:39
Speaker 1: to think about that, because that is the thing about
28:42
Speaker 1: this case that I find so frustrating. There's no evidence
28:47
Speaker 1: that he walked away, no evidence that there was foul
28:50
Speaker 1: play in Brazoria County. If you, for some reason happen
28:54
Speaker 1: to find this, please work harder. I mean, just work harder,
29:00
Speaker 1: you know. And if he did decide to walk away,
29:04
Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll come on Beverly and say I was wrong, right, Oh,
29:09
Speaker 1: you would love to be wrong, wouldn't you.
29:11
Speaker 3: I've said from the start if if I'm wrong, I'll
29:15
Speaker 3: scream just as loud that I was wrong as I
29:17
Speaker 3: screamed that that this happened. But at the end of
29:22
Speaker 3: the day, I don't believe he warned. I mean, and
29:25
Speaker 3: it wasn't just myself that he warned. I mean, there's
29:29
Speaker 3: a few of who close, So I don't believe that
29:33
Speaker 3: he would warn people. I don't believe you warn people. Hey,
29:37
Speaker 3: I'm really fearful. Hey, I know what I got to
29:40
Speaker 3: get out of here, but hey, I got to do
29:41
Speaker 3: this first. And then they just vanished. And that person
29:46
Speaker 3: knows nothing and just says, oh, well, they just went
29:49
Speaker 3: off to live it happy.
29:51
Speaker 1: Do you think in this as the thought, do you
29:55
Speaker 1: think he would go somewhere and hurt himself and do
29:57
Speaker 1: it somewhere where he couldn't be found, so that his
30:01
Speaker 1: wife or children didn't have to find him.
30:03
Speaker 3: Never. I can tell you that too. I am raising
30:09
Speaker 3: our sister's daughter, my niece. Her father killed himself when
30:12
Speaker 3: she was four years old. We've all seen the fallout
30:19
Speaker 3: from that. All all he ever talked about was how
30:24
Speaker 3: her dad was a coward, pos for doing that to her,
30:27
Speaker 3: and that there were so many other ways, and you
30:32
Speaker 3: will never convince me my brother hurt himself if he
30:38
Speaker 3: even felt that way, not only would he have called me,
30:40
Speaker 3: because he's called me in a many of situations not suicidal,
30:44
Speaker 3: but if he didn't call me, he was very resourceful
30:48
Speaker 3: about the VA services, yes, and stuff like that. So
30:53
Speaker 3: it's not like he did not know how to get
30:56
Speaker 3: help or wouldn't get help. The man was trying to
31:00
Speaker 3: get help, just not that kind of help. That's not
31:02
Speaker 3: that he was just being turned away and told your
31:07
Speaker 3: man basically right.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, his case remains open, and law enforcement does
31:15
Speaker 1: want you to come forward with any information you have,
31:18
Speaker 1: no matter how insignificant. Even a small tip could help
31:23
Speaker 1: bring closure, you know, to this family. So, like I said,
31:27
Speaker 1: I want you to think about his children most of all.
31:30
Speaker 1: If you don't want to think about the adults, okay,
31:33
Speaker 1: think about his freaking children and do the right thing
31:38
Speaker 1: in their pain and contact the Brazoria County Sheriff's Office
31:43
Speaker 1: at nine seventy nine eight four nine two four four one,
31:48
Speaker 1: or you can always anonymously go to FBI dot gov
31:52
Speaker 1: backslash tips and submitted anonymous guys, it's truly anonymous. You
31:58
Speaker 1: can go and do that, so I want to encourage
32:02
Speaker 1: people to do that. I also want to ask everyone
32:05
Speaker 1: who's watching now or who watches later, please go to
32:09
Speaker 1: our social media page and share Will's flyer. Also go
32:13
Speaker 1: follow their Facebook page. It's find Will William Russell Gray.
32:19
Speaker 3: Right, it's find Will Gray.
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Speaker 2: Oh, find Will Gray. Go and follow that. Help share it.
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Speaker 1: Let's get the word out because guys, that's going to
32:28
Speaker 1: be the way that they get their answers. So, Beverly,
32:32
Speaker 1: I want to thank you again for sharing Will's story
32:35
Speaker 1: with us, and I want you to know that everyone
32:38
Speaker 1: here at the TCWT media team, we will do our
32:40
Speaker 1: best to.
32:41
Speaker 2: Get the word out.
32:42
Speaker 1: We will share it, we will keep an eye on
32:44
Speaker 1: it and hope and pray that some.
32:48
Speaker 2: Answers come down for his kids. Thank you, yeah, and.
32:53
Speaker 1: To everyone else, I want to say thank you for
32:55
Speaker 1: joining me today. I hope to see you again on
32:58
Speaker 1: Monday for another episode of Midday Missing. Also want to
33:03
Speaker 1: remind you you can join our Facebook group, follow us
33:06
Speaker 1: on all of our social media channels to stay connected
33:09
Speaker 1: with us so that you can be a part of
33:11
Speaker 1: this conversation. Also want to remind you. Please. If you
33:16
Speaker 1: see missing person flyers pop up in your feed, even
33:20
Speaker 1: once not from us, please share them. I do tell
33:23
Speaker 1: you go and give it a Google real quick. That
33:26
Speaker 1: means Google to see if they really are missing, because
33:28
Speaker 1: there are a lot of scams out there, so just
33:32
Speaker 1: please remember to do that. And I want you all
33:35
Speaker 1: to remember you can catch all of our shows here
33:38
Speaker 1: on our YouTube channel. Some of them are on Facebook,
33:41
Speaker 1: but not all of them. Our podcast True Crime and
33:44
Speaker 1: Wine Time is available on all of your favorite podcast platforms,
33:49
Speaker 1: and we just started last week releasing midday missing episodes
33:54
Speaker 1: on the podcast apps Swell. We're doing that so we
33:57
Speaker 1: can get the word out to more people about these
34:01
Speaker 1: individuals missing.
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Speaker 2: So just let you know.
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Speaker 1: There was a twelve year old boy here in the
34:07
Speaker 1: Dallas area. There was an amber alert. They found him.
34:11
Speaker 1: He had been taken by his non custodial mom. It
34:14
Speaker 1: was from a tip. Okay, guys, keeping your eyes open.
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Speaker 1: Look at the faces. Don't just share them, truly look
34:23
Speaker 1: at the person's face and look at where they're from.
34:27
Speaker 1: Share this and try to keep your eyes open for them.
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Speaker 1: So as always, guys, until next time, please stay safe,
34:36
Speaker 1: watch out for crime, and enjoy your wine time, Bye guys.
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