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The Transfer Portal Is Officially Open For Business · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to buck Eyes Tomorrow Morning for Wednesday, December eleventh.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Tom Moore. The Tennessee game is in
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  Speaker 1: ten days, the game against Michigan in three hundred and
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  Speaker 1: fifty three days. December used to be a nice quiet
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  Speaker 1: month in college football. Now might be the busiest month
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  Speaker 1: on the college football calendar. Early Signing Day in recruiting
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  Speaker 1: was just a week ago. Conference title games of course
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  Speaker 1: last weekend. Then the transfer portal opened up, and oh yes,
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  Speaker 1: oh by the way, the playoff starts next Friday. So
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  Speaker 1: we're going to be trying to get you caught up
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  Speaker 1: on a bunch of stuff that we haven't had a
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  Speaker 1: chance to talk a bunch about on this show in
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  Speaker 1: recent weeks. And let's start with the transfer portal. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Gerderman and I have done a bunch of shows
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  Speaker 1: on each of the players four players so far for
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  Speaker 1: the Buckeyes who have entered the portal already. Those have
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  Speaker 1: all been in the Buckeye Weekly podcast feed. And then
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  Speaker 1: Mark Givler and Kevin Noon did an extended live show
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  Speaker 1: on pretty much everything else the portal recruiting much more.
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  Speaker 1: This is from the Skull Session Recruiting podcast feed. If
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  Speaker 1: you get Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning and the Buckeye Weekly Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Here you go, Mark Givler and Kevin Noon on the
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  Speaker 1: Skull Session Recruiting Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Good afternoon, everyone, Welcome to the Skull Session Recruiting Podcast,
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  Speaker 2: brought to you by Buckeye Huddle dot com. It's our
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  Speaker 2: Monday afternoon live show. I am Mark Givler joined by
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Noon. The transfer portal is open and all sorts
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  Speaker 2: of names are flying into the portal.
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  Speaker 3: I think we're closing in on.
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  Speaker 2: A thousand names already in the transfer portal, with several
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  Speaker 2: more to come here in the coming days.
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State's going.
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  Speaker 2: To be active. How active We're going to find out,
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  Speaker 2: but we know for sure they're going to be looking
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  Speaker 2: for offensive linemen. We suspect they're going to be looking
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  Speaker 2: for a couple other things as well, But that'll play
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  Speaker 2: out here over the next few weeks as they also
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  Speaker 2: try and figure out who they're retaining. Kevin first news
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  Speaker 2: item of the portal for Ohio State is that they
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  Speaker 2: will be hosting Northwestern offensive line transfer Josh Thompson here
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  Speaker 2: on Friday for a visit. Thompson is a honorable mention
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  Speaker 2: All Big Ten offensive lineman has experience at guard and tackle. Kevin,
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  Speaker 2: I guess this was probably not surprising. I think it
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  Speaker 2: was talked about, you know, a few days ago that
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  Speaker 2: this was going to be a guy that o'his was
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  Speaker 2: going to look at, and now the visit is set up.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, Thompson's kind of more guard than tackle.
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  Speaker 2: He has experience with both, but he's a little more
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  Speaker 2: guard than tackle. What does that tell you about maybe
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  Speaker 2: what their plans are next year with Carson Hinsman.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'll start with this that this kind of fits
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  Speaker 4: into the plan that I thought that we were going
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  Speaker 4: to see of Ohio State getting a combo guy, even
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  Speaker 4: if Thompson and they haven't landed at Thompson. So I mean,
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  Speaker 4: but going and getting a combo guy and then maybe
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  Speaker 4: getting somebody who is strictly a tackle because they need
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  Speaker 4: to lounch. They need too offensive linemen in this poor class.
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  Speaker 4: So as for Hinsman, I still think that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the goal would be to try and get him in
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  Speaker 4: the in the center mix, and he's going to have
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  Speaker 4: to be able to hold off Josh Padilla. I mean
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  Speaker 4: we don't. We don't have the benefit of knowing what
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  Speaker 4: Ohio State's line is going to look like in the
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  Speaker 4: next one to four games. I think we can all
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  Speaker 4: agree that there will be some changes. I think there
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  Speaker 4: needs to be some changes. You need to have your
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  Speaker 4: best five out there. Ohio State's inability to run the
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  Speaker 4: ball the last couple of games, Ohio State's inability to
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  Speaker 4: really protect Will Howard in the last game. I think
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  Speaker 4: all predicate that. So I'm not going to get ahead
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  Speaker 4: of myself and try and predict what I think the
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  Speaker 4: line is going to look like. I'm pretty sure Ryan
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  Speaker 4: Day and Justin Fry and Chip Kelly don't know what
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  Speaker 4: the line is going to look like, but they better
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  Speaker 4: figure that out quickly because you know, December whatever, twenty
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  Speaker 4: first is rapidly approaching. But you know, I think that
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  Speaker 4: you still sit there and want to have open competition.
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  Speaker 4: We have seen Ohio State go out and get portal
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  Speaker 4: guys who have not been able to lock down their jobs.
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  Speaker 4: Johad Carter with somebody like that. I mean, those things
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  Speaker 4: do happen, they do exist, So it's not an indictment
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  Speaker 4: of Carson Hensman. It's not that Ohio State is ready
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  Speaker 4: to move on, but I think that you need to
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  Speaker 4: when you sit there and you look at the guard position,
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  Speaker 4: and if we're still considering Donovan Jackson a guard and
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  Speaker 4: he leaves after this year, and you have a you know,
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  Speaker 4: you have a group of guards that include Tegra, Austin Saraveld,
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  Speaker 4: Carson Hinsman. I mean Hinsman has the ability to slide
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  Speaker 4: into center. So you know, I think there are a
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  Speaker 4: lot of options on the table and I think that
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  Speaker 4: helps Ohio State.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's gonna be par The interesting thing
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  Speaker 2: with this process with the portal is what do they
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  Speaker 2: want to do with Hensman next year, because if you're
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  Speaker 2: moving him to center, you probably do need a guard
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  Speaker 2: in the portal because quite frankly, like Saravell's had his
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  Speaker 2: moments of good play, Hager's been okay, but I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: say either of those guys have played to the level
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  Speaker 2: that you don't consider bringing someone in to push the
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  Speaker 2: competition at least so, and then if Hinsman stays at guard,
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  Speaker 2: you may be looking for a center. Even if you
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  Speaker 2: like Josh Padilla, we don't know anything about Josh Padia yet,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, it's not exactly an area of great
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  Speaker 2: depth on the roster right now, so you got to
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  Speaker 2: figure that's going to play into it. And again, my
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  Speaker 2: best guess would be at this point that they spend
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  Speaker 2: the off season trying to make Kinsman their center, which
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  Speaker 2: means the snapping needs to improve, but that would be
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  Speaker 2: my guess, and then they can fill in the guard
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  Speaker 2: tackle situations with portal guys, you know, but we'll see
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  Speaker 2: how that plays out. Again, Thompson has guard and tackle experience.
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  Speaker 2: I did talk to Josh a little but today told
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  Speaker 2: me that because I asked him, like, guard tackle, what
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  Speaker 2: do you think? And he just said, like he's being
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  Speaker 2: told different things from different teams, and basically, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's a plug and play at whichever spot a team
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  Speaker 2: needs a mat.
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  Speaker 3: So Ohio State's no different with that.
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  Speaker 2: So the flexibility there is nice. Honorable again, honorable mention
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  Speaker 2: all Big ten. While it maybe doesn't like get people
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  Speaker 2: super excited, he did play at Northwestern and a lot
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  Speaker 2: of times you can kind of fly under the radar
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  Speaker 2: at those types of programs in terms of like a
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  Speaker 2: ward voting. So I think you know I wouldn't get
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  Speaker 2: too wrapped up either way into that, but definitely a
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  Speaker 2: guy that would make some sense I think for Ohio States.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens Friday. He's got a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of other visits. When these offensive linemen come into the portal,
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  Speaker 2: it's like the market is so the supply is so
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  Speaker 2: low and the demand is so high that pretty much
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  Speaker 2: any starting caliber offensive lineman in the portal is going
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  Speaker 2: to get all sorts of interest and offers. So he's
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  Speaker 2: getting a lot of interest right now. But so that's
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  Speaker 2: kind of the big news item. I wanted to hit
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  Speaker 2: on something. I talked about this in my skull Session
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  Speaker 2: column on the website this morning, which you can check
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  Speaker 2: out at Buckeyell dot com.
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  Speaker 3: If you want to hear a little bit more on
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  Speaker 3: this or a little bit just read more.
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  Speaker 2: About high state recruiting and state championship recaps and portal
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  Speaker 2: stuff and new quarterback target to watch.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to tease that one.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to give that away here, but new
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  Speaker 2: quarterback target very much surging right now for the Buck guy,
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  Speaker 2: So check that out at Buckehella dot com.
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  Speaker 3: But the one thing I do want to hit on
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  Speaker 3: because we are talking to transfer portal right now.
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  Speaker 2: Is Kean Keeley has been like this huge name for
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State fans, like they've like tried to like wish
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  Speaker 2: him into the portal for like two years now. I
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  Speaker 2: believe he's going to be in the portal in the
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  Speaker 2: very near future.
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  Speaker 3: But but.
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  Speaker 2: This is Riley Leonard two point zero. I talked to
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  Speaker 2: a very good source in the last twenty four hours
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  Speaker 2: who said that if Keeley goes in the portal, look
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  Speaker 2: for it to be Notre Dame, and look for it
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  Speaker 2: to be Notre Dame pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what I'm hearing there.
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  Speaker 2: So if the graphic comes out on Twitter today or
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow or whatever that key on Keeley's in the transfer portal,
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be putting a lot of I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: betting a lot on on Ohio State being the destination.
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  Speaker 2: That said, I do think they'd be in the market
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  Speaker 2: for a pass rusher. Now, They've got to retain their guys.
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  Speaker 2: I mean there's two are there's two key areas of
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  Speaker 2: retention in my opinion on this team right now, and
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  Speaker 2: that's defensive line and defensive back. Like we kind of
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  Speaker 2: know what the offensive line is going.
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  Speaker 3: To be like.
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  Speaker 2: As far as we know who's leaving, we know who's staying.
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  Speaker 2: We generally know what the wide receiver room is going
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  Speaker 2: to look like. The d line room is going to
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  Speaker 2: be interesting. I'm sure there's a lot of guys in
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  Speaker 2: that too deep that feel like they probably should have
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  Speaker 2: played more this year. So how much of that is
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  Speaker 2: gonna play into retention costs and things like that, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, but that's an area they're gonna have to
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  Speaker 2: shore up with retention. And defensive back is another interesting
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  Speaker 2: one because I do think they're gonna come at Davison
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  Speaker 2: Iguanosen with an enticing don't go to the NFL yet
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  Speaker 2: type of nil offer.
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  Speaker 3: Now will he take that?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I think that's gonna be an
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  Speaker 2: interesting thing to watch there.
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  Speaker 3: And then you've got some backup.
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  Speaker 2: Corners who you expect to possibly either move into the
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  Speaker 2: starting lineup or compete to move into the starting lineup.
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  Speaker 2: Your guys like Jermaine Matthews, your guys like Aaron Scott.
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  Speaker 2: There's gonna be some guys there who are gonna be
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  Speaker 2: you know, the poachers are gonna be out in full
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  Speaker 2: force on guys like that, you know, So that's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be an area to shore up as well. So part
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  Speaker 2: of this is gonna be what they pursue, but the
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  Speaker 2: other part of this is gonna be kind of how
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  Speaker 2: they're able to retain that next wave of players. So
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  Speaker 2: we'll see what happens here in the next few days,
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  Speaker 2: next few weeks. Gonna be interesting. Portals always crazy already
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  Speaker 2: a couple of names that I found interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Kevin in the portal, But you know, where do you
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  Speaker 3: think Obviously, offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we've beat that one to death, but like,
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  Speaker 2: what are some other areas you think Ohio State maybe
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  Speaker 2: be aggressive in the.
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  Speaker 4: Portal running back kicker, I would, I would take a
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  Speaker 4: swing at a linebacker. You've lost gay powers already. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you just kind of have to see what happens there.
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  Speaker 4: Oh jeez. I mean they're gonna have They're going to
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  Speaker 4: have to bring in another body at quarterback. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Devin Brown has announced that he will enter the portal.
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  Speaker 4: He's going to remain for the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean, you're I mean, Ohio State is losing
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  Speaker 4: one quarterback, could lose two, good in theory, lose three.
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  Speaker 4: So I mean you're going to have to bring in quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there's gonna be a lot of necessity. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: everybody that doesn't like Ohio State when and round about
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  Speaker 4: how Ohio State went out and bought a team which
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  Speaker 4: couldn't be further from the truth. I mean it was,
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  Speaker 4: you know, once again just you know, hater's gonna hate
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  Speaker 4: and trying to say stuff. But I think I think
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  Speaker 4: Ohio State will bring in more transfer players this year
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  Speaker 4: than last year. It's not going to be Colorado levels.
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  Speaker 4: It's not going to be seventy or anything like that,
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  Speaker 4: but I can see it pushing a dozen. I really could.
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  Speaker 4: With the new numbers in terms of what scholarships are
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  Speaker 4: going to be. And Mark and I are both friends
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  Speaker 4: with somebody who just loves texting and yelling at me.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, it's never going to be one oh five.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody's going to go to one oh five. I've just
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  Speaker 4: got to take the one oh five lexicon out of
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  Speaker 4: my vocabulary and not say that. But more than eighty five,
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  Speaker 4: I think you can get away with that. And again,
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  Speaker 4: if Ohio State, who's got the third best odds according
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  Speaker 4: to several books, to win the college football Playoff if
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  Speaker 4: Ohio State wins it, and that's a big if because
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  Speaker 4: we all remember what last indelible image of Ohio State
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  Speaker 4: on the field was and it was crap, but you
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  Speaker 4: could see a lot of turnovers. So Ohio State is
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  Speaker 4: going to have to be active. And we already are
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  Speaker 4: seeing people here in the chat over on the Buckeye Hut,
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  Speaker 4: on Huddle message board, everything already locking in on their
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  Speaker 4: favorite names for kids that have been in the portal
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  Speaker 4: for sixteen minutes. But that you know, it's just another
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  Speaker 4: level of recruiting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree that they definitely need to go get
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  Speaker 2: a kicker. You know, I already saw some stuff in
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  Speaker 2: the chat. Look, I know it's out there on quin
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  Speaker 2: Shawn Judkins. Do I think Ohio State will put together
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  Speaker 2: a very enticing nil package to maybe get quin Shawn
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  Speaker 2: Judkins to consider coming back. Yeah, I think they probably will,
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  Speaker 2: but I kind of need to see it to believe it.
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  Speaker 2: With Judkins coming back, I know that was not the
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  Speaker 2: plan going into the season. Plans change. The one thing
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  Speaker 2: I will say about this year is it is an
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  Speaker 2: elite running back draft, not just in terms of top
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  Speaker 2: end guys, but depth. I think there's like seven or
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  Speaker 2: eight running backs that I think most years would go
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  Speaker 2: in like the first couple of rounds, and so some
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  Speaker 2: of those guys may not just because of supply and
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  Speaker 2: demand and all that stuff. So there's some stuff there,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm not buying that yet. I'm not buying that yet.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see something to keep an eye on. But
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  Speaker 2: I gotta kind of see that one to believe it,
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  Speaker 2: just because I know what the goal was coming into.
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  Speaker 3: The year, you know, pass rusher.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, again, gotta see what you keep first. I don't
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  Speaker 2: you know, I don't think they really need a receiver,
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  Speaker 2: like from a talent and fusion standpoint, but they're they're
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  Speaker 2: still kind of low number, so I wonder if they
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  Speaker 2: would bring in someone like that. But you know, we'll
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  Speaker 2: see about that. Obviously. Running back if Judkins Leaves had
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  Speaker 2: like to bring a veteran to pair with like James
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  Speaker 2: Peeple's for next year, and linebacker Kevin mentioned is interesting.
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  Speaker 2: You know, here's an interesting name. I don't have anything
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  Speaker 2: on this yet. I have no idea if Ohio State's
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  Speaker 2: going to get involved here, so I'm not reporting this
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  Speaker 2: as like news or anything, but a name that caught
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  Speaker 2: my eye this morning was Jaden Yates from Marshall at linebacker.
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  Speaker 2: He's got three years left. He was first team All
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  Speaker 2: sun Belt this year. Is like a red shirt freshman
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  Speaker 2: second player. He's from Jehannah, Lincoln, was an absolute stud
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  Speaker 2: in high school. I think I posted something on signing
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  Speaker 2: day or close to signing day a couple years ago
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  Speaker 2: saying like, I can't believe this kid's going to Marshall,
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  Speaker 2: Like he was clearly a big ten, and Ohio State
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  Speaker 2: actually looked at him. They had the camp a couple
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  Speaker 2: of times. And so he had an unbelievable year this
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  Speaker 2: year at Marshall and he's off to the portal. My
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  Speaker 2: latest as of like an hour of is that there
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  Speaker 2: has not been any contact with the Yates and Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State yet. I don't know if that was that. That
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  Speaker 2: was just an interesting name to me that kind of
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  Speaker 2: popped up in the portal. And again, isn't like a
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  Speaker 2: super you'd have some some team control there, a little
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  Speaker 2: bit local kid, and of course you have a situation
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  Speaker 2: there where he's not like coming in, like you're not
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  Speaker 2: bringing in like a guy who's like a year ahead
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  Speaker 2: of Arvel Reese and like gets weird, like you're he'd
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  Speaker 2: be behind like an age, he'd be.
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  Speaker 3: Behind some of your returners.
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  Speaker 2: Now, is he going to transfer into a situation like
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  Speaker 2: Ohio States where he's not guaranteed to start or something
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  Speaker 2: like that. That's the other quote. That's the other side
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  Speaker 2: of this coin too. It's like, okay, does the Marshall
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  Speaker 2: production transfer to Ohio State? And they played Marshall this year,
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  Speaker 2: so they got a good look at Jamie Yates. Does
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  Speaker 2: that does that translate to Ohio State level? And does
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  Speaker 2: he you know, he's undoubtedly going to have like big
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  Speaker 2: ten probably some mid to low tier sec acc stuff
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  Speaker 2: where he can kind of go right and start.
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  Speaker 3: So how enticing would Ohio State? So we'll see, Like I.
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  Speaker 2: Said, no contact yet, but that was just that was
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  Speaker 2: just you know, as I was watching this morning the
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  Speaker 2: names rolling, I was like, oh, that's kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 4: So we'll see Yates led Marshall in tackles in that
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  Speaker 4: game with seven against Ohio State. Just a reminder that
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  Speaker 4: was a forty nine to fourteen game that was, you know,
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  Speaker 4: largely nondescript, even though Marshall is proving to be a
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  Speaker 4: pretty good victory for Ohio State going out and winning
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  Speaker 4: their conference. But I agree Yates is is solid, But
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  Speaker 4: you hit the nail on the head right there that
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  Speaker 4: you know Ohio State can't necessarily promise anything with what
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  Speaker 4: they still have at the linebacker room. Just because your
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  Speaker 4: number is low doesn't mean they don't have guys that
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  Speaker 4: can step into roles and and be successful. But they
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  Speaker 4: have they have to backfill. They have to backfill to
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  Speaker 4: keep the number at least in haling distance of where
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  Speaker 4: it needs to be.
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  Speaker 3: And of course they love what they just signed.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: So are you going to bring in a guy like
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: who could potentially block a Riley Pettijohn or a tj
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Alford Early Maybe you want to give those guys those
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: vell Mill snaps. So again, I don't know if that
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: would make sense for either party, but it was just
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: it was one of those names that came across. I'm like, well,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: that would be interesting because it's season he had.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's uh, yeah, I got I've got fifteen questions
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: already in the queue. I've just been kind of saving
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: them there, just to kind of hit some news of
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: the day. Miles Walker, out of Connecticut, he entered the portal.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: He is the latest member of Ohio State to make
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: that announcement. Offensive linemen. Really wasn't even repping with the
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: threes he had to deal with an injury just never
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: really came together for him. Wish him the best luck
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: or whatever the next stop is, if he goes back
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: to the Northeast or whatever that may be. But I
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: don't think we're done hearing names of Ohio State players
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: entering the portal. I've not seen any numbers posted yet
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: of how many people have entered. The day is still
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: going on. It's still three fifty four Eastern time. A
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: number three o'clock doesn't necessarily tell the whole story of
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: how many kids will enter the portal here on day one,
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: and sometimes players stagger it out a little bit. You
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: want to get out there early, maybe try and get
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: ahead of other people in terms of garnering the interest,
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: but you also don't have to race. I mean, the
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: portal isn't open for one day. It's just like National
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: Signing Day opens the signing period. It's not a one
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: day affair, so there's still going to be a lot
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: more movement. I think the big question something that Ryan
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Day was asked about yesterday about players who are are
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: entering the portal, will they remain with the team for
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: the playoff run because the dates are really weird now
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: because most schools are on semesters. Ohio State when I
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: went there was on quarters went to semesters, still a
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: long time ago. I mold, it's all well and good
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: to be like, well, I'll play you for Ohio State
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: or be on the sidelines if you're playing. Probably not
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: transferring for this Tennessee game. But what happens? What happens
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: if Biosta gets to the national semi finals, quarters or
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: semester has already started, So you know, we don't necessarily
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: know what's going to be the case. I mean, are
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: guys going to try and jump out quickly enough to
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: be able to enroll at their new schools or are
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: they going to sit there and maybe just say, you know,
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: we've seen guys go through spring practice with their old
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: program to then go to their new programs. So a
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: lot of a lot of unknowns. I mean, I don't
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: know if you have anything to add to that as
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: I get to our questions.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's yeah, I mean, obviously it's gonna
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: be interesting to see what guys decide to do. Obviously,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: fans and everyone else are going to applaud the guys
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: who who stay, and then maybe some guys will get
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: vilified for leaving in the middle of the playoff run.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: But as you said, the academic calendar and the ridiculous
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: NCAA's schedules is to blame for that.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: It's not necessarily a character thing with.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: The kids much as it is like they've got to
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: get enrolled in the other school and start taking classes
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: and everything else and keep their academics in order. So yeah,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: that's going to be a challenge. But that's what happens
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: when you when you schedule your your playoffs, your your draft,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: and your free agency all in the same two weeks.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: So I don't know who who's in charge of the
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: calendar in Indianapolis, but I mean they're not doing anybody
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: any favors, and it's going to it's going to grind
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: coaches out of the profession. I mean, Okay, year one,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: we're seeing just this absolute crush for teams that are
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: in the playoffs and everything else. But it's not like
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: it's any better for teams. I mean, teams that are
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: just in a regular, boring, old ball game are still
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: kind of dealing with the same calendar. So I don't
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: know if I have an answer as to what the
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: calendar should look like. I mean, I have some ideas,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: but you know, maybe maybe if you know, next Monday
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: for this show, I'll have some better ideas, you know,
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: put together. But as it stands right now, it just
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: really seems like nobody has a freaking clue as to
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: how to operate a calendar for any of this.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: One thing I think would be helpful is either get
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: rid of the early signing period, which just doesn't seem
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: like that's a thing anyone's considering at this point. So
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I would move the early signing period until roughly July tenth,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: so like somewhere, not the very very beginning of July,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: but get it into the second week of July somewhere
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: set signing day there. That gives the coaches about almost
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: three weeks off in July until they got to go
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: do their media.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Just if you're the.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Head coach, you have to go to your media obligation,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: but if you're assistant, you get a few weeks off
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: there at that point before fall camp, and it gets
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: it gets a lot of the mess out of the way.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Like as far as god, who just know what they
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: want to do Tavian and Saint Clair can just sign
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: you know whatever. Gets a lot of that mess out
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: of the way, and then you can have your February
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: period and guys can still leave their class if Coach Lee,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, like there's things. Look, the freedom of movement
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: now is so slanted toward the player now that nothing
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: is really that binding anymore anyway, But that could kind
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: of least get some of the hoopla out of the
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: way before the season starts and you're not dealing with
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: this the freaking week of the conference championship games. Like
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: so that is the one thing I think would be helpful.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: And then you got to figure out what to do
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: about the portal, because that's a little bit of a
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: tougher thing to maneuver. But you know, that's that's where
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: I would start get things out of the way. Coach
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Still over a month of July off basically.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: I covered from Afar. Mark was in Canton for the
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: Division for the Ohio High School state championship games. I
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: was covering them from Spectrum and I had an interesting
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: conversation with somebody I don't even remember who about moving
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: the signing day. The early signing day prior to the season,
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: and that there is this fear that kids would opt
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: out of their senior season if they already signed somewhere,
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: that they would that they would just get to moving
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: towards that. And you know, my counterpoint was, so they
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: would give up, they would give up a season of
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: development to do that. I don't know how their future
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: home would really view that. I mean, if if a
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: kid wants to reclassify after three years and go early,
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: then that's you know, that's one thing. But I just
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: I barring a worldwide pandemic, I cannot I don't see
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: a world of where somebody signs with Ohio State, Georgia,
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: USC whatever and is like, I'm good, I'm not going
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: to play my senior year.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: But that if they were going to do that, what's
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: they could do that? Now? What would stop them from
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: doing it?
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Now? Well, but they're not. They're not. I mean they're
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: not signed. But I mean signing isn't worth a piece
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: of paper, It's not even you know, I think I.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Think we're getting too much into the weeds of like
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: how flimsy these agreements are to begin with.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: I think that's overthinking it.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I think kids can do that now if they want,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: I would certainly advise against it very strongly. But like
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: if if Bryce Underwood hadn't played this year, how does
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: that change Bryce Underwin's recruitments.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: He wouldn't have been coached by.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Or Less and my own money little Less and I
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: own money. Maybe.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: And that's the other thing, like schools can like you
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: know that, that's that's leverage against your nil.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: You want to you want to get out there playing, Yeah,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: No, it was a it was an interesting conversation. Yeah,
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: and I I stapped there and had the whole conversation.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: I didn't go behind whatever and I just dumb and
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: walk away or anything like that. I had a lot
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: of sitting around time between games. They really put a
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: lot of time between these games. So but let me
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: say this before we get into Coastal Buckeyes question and
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: some other things. Don Terry out of Ironton impressed the
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: hell out of me. He was good and he looked
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: really really good for for Ironton in there in their
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: state finals game.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was. He had probably the performance of
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: the weekend.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: That was a that was a special plans and Missouri
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: obviously flipped him from from Notre Dame over the summer.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: So that's a nice get from Missouri there as they
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: continue to kind of build themselves up as a top
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: twenty five type program.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: So yeah, that was a that was a really breakout
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: type of.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Performance out of you know, Ironton's a great program, but
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: probably a guy who you know, get a lot of
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: hype around him playing down.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: There on the Ohio River.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: So that was a nice breakout performance for him, and
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: he was definitely the difference in that game for Ironton
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: Right, And my favorite game of the weekend was that
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: Indian Valley game, the last game of the whole deal.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, that thing was a was a banger. But
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: you know, Mark has put some stuff up on on
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: the YouTube channel from his coverage there. You know, we'll
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: probably have a little bit more. I mean we got
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: you know, we got to see what we got to
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: see the molar quarterback. I mean in twenty six, I
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: mean there were there were definitely some recruiting angles there,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: more so than just going and covering the state finals
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: because again seoun Terry's going to Missouri. I mean, you know,
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: we see some kids it's like oh wow, I you know,
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: I finally see it in the biggest of stages of
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: what you know, what what he's doing? Mark this one here,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: but coastal Buckeye. How aggressive? How many transfer offensive lineman
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: do we realistically take? We kind of touched upon this
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: a little, but no, I like to double back on
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: the questions people take the time to ask, so we'll
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: answer them. I mean, I think you've got to take
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: at least two. I really think you got to take
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: two somebody who is like strictly tackle. Give me that
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: six seven, three fifteen guy that is, you know, that
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: is a tackle that can play in space, and then
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: get me maybe a swing guy. Now I've seen some
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: people kind of talking about Hinsman and whether or not
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: he's a guard or a center. I mean, I don't know.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: I mean I don't know. Do you go out and
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: get somebody who can you know? Do you get a
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: third guy or is your second guy? You know, is
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: your second guy maybe more of a guard center swing
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: as opposed to a guard tackle. But I think Ohio
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: State really needs to replenish its tackle numbers because it's
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: a big ask for cart to stay to Carter Low.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: We need you to come in and start day one
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's when we've said this on shows before.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: You have to go back to Michael Jordan. Ohio State's
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Michael Jordan, not the Chicago Bulls. Michael Jordan for the
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: last time a true freshman and started on the offensive
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: line at Ohio State, and I think prior to that
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: it was Orlando Paints. So it don't happen often.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think two to three's the range, and as
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: much of that will depend upon what they're able to
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: get who's out there, like I think minimum two, and
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: then like I said, they can get three day light,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I think they would probably.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Do that all right. Next one, gizmo, how about the
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: running back from USC Joiner? I have not looked it up.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: I was not aware that an SC running back it
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: entered the portal lot. Quentin Joiner. I guess I've been
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: working on Tennessee stuff, trying to get ahead there. Joiners
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: stats this year, let's see he sixty three carries for
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: four to seventy eight, three touchdowns seven point six average.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: Saw some action, kind of sporadic through the season. I
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: don't know enough about I don't know enough about about him.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: He's five eleven two sixteen. He was a freshman this
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: year out of the state of Texas. I mean, I
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: think I think you have to be willing to explore
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: everything out there. I mean, there are going to be
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: some guys it's like, wow, you know, we're just you know,
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: geographically we're not going to be able to get them
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: or for whatever reason, and just what the room's going
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: to be. But you know, to Gizmo's point, I can't.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: I haven't heard anything about that. I've not you know,
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: I've been so tunnel visioned on Tennessee right now that
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: portal is just kind of happening around me.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he would fit the profile of something
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I think Ohisi would like. I had a really good
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: freshman year about seven yards per carry, you know, and
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: I'm throwing out a name here. I've heard nothing of contact.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: You look at someone like a mad Hardy from Louisiana
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Monroe was a freshman All American. I mean, guys like
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: that would be of interest, or or you could look
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: at guys who are kind of one year deals just
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: to kind of a veteran to come in and help
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: mentor the young guys share carries with James Peoples and
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: then you kind of turn it over to this income
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: and running back class the following year.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: That's if you told me they went after a guy
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: like that would make total sense.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Troy V asking a question that's been asked multiple times,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: so I apologize to everybody who's asked it. I'm not
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: I just pick Troy V's question. But early train him
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: is entering the portal and the buck guys get him
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: out of the portal. I will I will repeat what
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: I said in the chat because we were talking about
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: something else. Out State did not bring him in as
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: a running back in the first place. They brought him
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: in as a linebacker. Necessity forced him to running back.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: And I like Chip. He's a good kid. He does
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: some things well, but I don't know if he necessarily
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: fits what Ohio State needs. Yeah, he is a senior
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: running back who can sit there maybe mentor room that
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: you know will be pretty young, but you also need
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: to have somebody that can. You know, you'd like to
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: have a one, one A and a one B running
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: back out there's somebody to compliment James People's And I've
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: not seen the production out of Chip to think that
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: he's necessarily the guy. And that's you know, again, I'm not.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: I'm If I start talking bad about a kid, it
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: means somebody has a gun to my head. I don't
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: talk bad about the kid. That's just not they're getting paid.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: But I don't talk bad about him. But I don't
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: think he's a fit. I don't think he's a fit.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Ohio State probably looking for a little
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: a little more pop than that would be my guess.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: Uh, let's see need more cow bell, find a Caleb Downs.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: That guy's not in the that that guy that's not
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: in the transfer portal, but his agent is taking calls.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's crazy that you have. I mean, the
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: portal opened at midnight or whatever, and I don't know
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: how many kids have already exited the portal, but you
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: are obviously conversations happened. And whether or not you want
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: to call it tampering or you want to just sit
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: there and call it smart portal management or whatever the
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: hell you want to call it. Uh, you know, guys
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: get out of the portal pretty quickly. Sometimes too, it's
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: like just there. I mean, to Mark's point earlier that
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: if ke Keeley inners, it's going renore name. So you
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: know it's already kind of there. And I'm not saying
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Notre Dame did anything wrong. I'm not saying key On
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Keeley did anything wrong. But yeah, it would be great.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, they could find another Caleb Downs caliber player,
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: you know, freshman, you know, freshman of the year in
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: the SEC and everything else. But that that don't happen
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: often if you're if you're that good, you're generally not leaving.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: You remember, he left because Nick Saban the goat retired.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, so where where we see something even remotely similar?
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, and I'm not saying that everybody that enters
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: the portal enters it because they're not great or they're
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: not a good bit or whatever. But you know, Downs is,
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: you know, Downs is the story that you tell for
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: twenty years. I can't believe we pulled that one off.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, it looks like a lot of
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: teams are opting to kind of hang on to their
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: coaches who are on the hot seat right now, versus
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: paying these ridiculous buyouts they've negotiated. So I don't know
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: how many of these coaching carousel type moves we're going
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: to see. I think next year, I think next year
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: is going to be the year where we see a
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: lot more big name jobs open, so that may be
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: interesting for the portal.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: The sentiment, of course is there, like you always want
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: to get a player like that if they're available. I
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: just don't know that there's anything clear and obvious out
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: there yet.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Just to answer a question, I'll punch it up Asian
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: posh Doreen. Hello, Doreen is asking why we're not streaming
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: on Twitter. X X is constantly changing its rules and
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: you have to have a premium or Premium plus account
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: and I don't know what level it has to be
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: to stream to it, and they and they, they made
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: the change like overnight at some point.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, we get that.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: We'll get that taken care of here in the next
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: few days, hopefully, hopefully by the end of the week,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: we'll have that taken care of that.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the goalpost got moved on that. We haven't we
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: haven't yet adjusted to that, but we will here in
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: the next few days. I was out of town for.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: High school football championships and the guys were busy all
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: weekend with the CFP stuff and everything else. But well, yeah,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: we'll get us, we'll get us back streaming on Twitter
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: here in the next few days.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: It was on my list of things to discuss with Mark.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: But it's Monday. I mean, it's not like i've it's
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: not like I've been drying it. I just just haven't
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: had a chance. I mean, he messaged me at two,
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: it's like, let's do a show at three thirty. I'm like, okay,
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: And then I didn't even think about it. So that's uh,
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: that's that's so hopefully that answers that for you. On
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: that one, Doreen, Uh, I saw you've already secured your
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: tickets to the Tennessee game. It's gonna be a cool one.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: David uh RAN's bottom, how about a kicker? And there's
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: some other things. And the name that everybody's talking about
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: is Eastern Michigan's Jesus Comes and he is in the portal.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: Uh he posted his little screenshot of the of his
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: you know, release or whatever. And I think he's going
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: to be very popular. I think he's going to have
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: a lot of people going in there. I'm not a
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: big fan of Ohio State not necessarily having scholarship kickers.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: We saw, we saw what that did to Florida State
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: back in the day. But you know, I you know,
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know in Ohio state, obviously, if it makes
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: two kicks last week or whatever it was two weeks ago,
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: We're looking at a very different situation. I'm not studying Tennessee.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: I'm having I'm having you know, I'm sitting there talking
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: about going to Phillips in Los Angeles. I'm talking about
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: doing a lot of these others, and my hope is
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: still to go to Phillips in Los Angeles. But yeah,
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: I think I think they absolutely need to get a kicker.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: I've seen some people talk about punter. Remember they got
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Nick McClarty the six seven AUSSI uh, he's they're having
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: to teach him how to punt because you know, I'm
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: not I'm not trying to move the conversation, David. But
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: we'll get back to the kicker in a second. Is
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: it's not like punt the ball as far as you can.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: There's things about hang time and everything else. I mean,
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: we hear about out kicking coverage and that that has
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: more to do with kick than football than it does
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: with you know, a spouse or anything like that. But yeah,
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: they're teaching him how to do that. So I think
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: they're going to be fine at punter, even though they're not.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: You know, they don't have the biggest leg at punter
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: right now. But I do think they need to sit
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: there and seriously pursue a kicker. There are people who
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: are concerned about getting you know, into a bidding more
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: over a kicker. You know, just just ask Brian Day
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: and ross By Orke right now about the value of
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: a kicker. I mean, I'm just going to be honest.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I sat on the site we're talking about this
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: on the website a few days ago, and like I would,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I would recruit kickers, kickers and punters. I would just
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: exclusively go to the portal for all my kickers and punters.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: At this point, high school kicker recruiting is such a crapshoot.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: No one, None of these guys really know how to
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: evaluate kickers. They all just go off the lists like
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: the Coals kicking rankings, and like none of these guys
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: like like like Brian Hartline's and charges on the special,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: like Brian Hartline's not out there like knowing exactly what
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: to look for in a punter, and he played the NFL.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: He still he's not going out there and like doing
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: serious evaluations. So I would just exclusive, I would take
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: the risk out of it as much as I could,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: and I would just allocate some nil dollars every year
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: to like, yeah, we're gonna get a kicker or a
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: punter from a portal, and you'd like to go and
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: get a guy who's maybe got two years left or
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: even three if you can really find but like sometimes
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: you may be getting one of your rentals. But I
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: just think if you can go out and get guys
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: who have proven they can kick at the Division one level,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: they've proven it hit fifty yards, they've proved it to
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: be accurate inside forty, which is really the name of
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: the game if we're being honest. You know, if you
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: can take so much risk out of it, in my
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: opinion by doing it that way, that I don't know, like,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know why you wouldn't just do that. So
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: we'll see what a hive state does moving forward. Obviously
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: gonna be looking for a kicker this year, but I
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: obviously moving forward, you just exclusively recruit the.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: Portal about using to Marian Wittnet kicker, he kicked Anville
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: and his nicknames tell Yeah, the straight on kicker or whatever.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: He really did everything for the tar Blotters when he
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: was a senior. No, I don't. I don't think that's
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: the direction anybody wants that.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Look, he did it effectively, hats off to him. Did
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: better than I would do out there, but it did
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: not look pretty.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: It was effective.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: All right, let's jump through here, Larry, Charles Bentley was
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: at the Woody last week. Any chance he was there
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: to interview four. I'm assuming the ol job. You don't
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: generally have a candidate for a job post on social
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: media that they are going to the school to do that.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: There are a lot of things there. I'm going to
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: I'm going to fly close to the son and I
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: get burnt off. And by saying this, we love the idea.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: And I'm saying we as people in general, not we
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: as in me of well, we need to have former
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Buckeyes as all of the coaches and everything else. Well,
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Charles Bentley was you had a successful NFL career, had
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: a successful career at Ohio State, has is O line
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: academy and everything else. He also was responsible for a
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: pretty bad judgment of an offensive line class for Ohio State.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: So it's not it's it doesn't always work out that
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: you know. By doing that, For every for every Brian
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: hartline situation that works out, there are one hundred that
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: don't elsewhere. So I you know, I understand people's frustrations
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: with where O line recruiting is and everything else. But
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: let's remember this. I mean, Oio State is on its
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: fourth offensive line in earnest this year. It's not justin
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: Fry's fault that Josh Simmons got hurt. It's not justin
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Fry's fault that Seth McLaughlin got hurt. I think the
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: development is not bad there. I mean, you can only
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: do what you can only do. I mean you can't
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: you can't turn a zebra into a cheetah or whatever.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: It just it doesn't work out that way. But you know,
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: as for the Charles's visit, no, it had nothing to
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: do with the job interview, absolutely, one hundred billion percent no.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: But you know I I wouldn't I wouldn't get too
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: wrapped up in the situation of that you have to
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: be an alumni of a school to be able to
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: be an effective coach. I just I don't buy into
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: that at all.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like we'll see like what happens in
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: the offseason.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: You know, we don't even know how the season's gonna end.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think the options. I think there are
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: certain schools, Like you look at the playoff bracket, and
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: I think there are certain schools you can be like,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: well they're gonna be one and done, or like their
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: ceiling is like winning a game and then they're going
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: to be out. Well, Hi Sea could lose the Tennessee
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: or his Se could win the whole thing. I like,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: I have no like great read on how this is
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: going to go for them. So until we kind of
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: let this play out a little bit, I don't know
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: what the coaching turnover may or may not be. Yeah,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, to Kevin's point it, the recruiting sins of
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: the past did catch up to them this.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Year with some injuries.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: But you're also not going to just replace, like Josh
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Simmons is going to go in the first round of
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: the draft. Really hard to just have another first round
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: caliber offensive tackle sitting on your bench. I mean that's
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: not a very common thing, at least anyone that's ready.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, you might have a guy on your bench
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: who's not ready, who's gonna be a first round pick
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: in four years or something. But you're generally not gonna
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: be able to just plug and play a Josh Simmons.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: You know, Sepn McLaughlin was probably gonna win the Rimington.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Maybe he still will, he's a finalist.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: I guess as he won't, but like you, probably was
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: gonna win it. So those are hard. Those are hard
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: players to replace, So we'll see.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, I would like them to kind of get
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: out of the bubble of like you know, heartline Lord,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: like just every like positions like a former player. You know,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Eddie George is like a hot name now for like
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: what he did at Tennessee State or whatever.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: It's like, hey, it was Tennessee State.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Like, we don't need to necessarily make him Ohio State's
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: next head coach this offseason, Like I would like to.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: I would like to break things up a little bit.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I think there's a I think there's some value to
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: like bringing in kind of an outside point of view
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: to things from like a position coach standpoint of, like, hey,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: this is what you guys were doing. Here's an unbiased,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: objective look at things from someone who has no real
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: ties to what was going on in this building, like,
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: here's where you need to improve, Here's what I would do.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: I think there's value to that too.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: Just to gwwaz, I'm not going to try to pronounce
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: something with just a ton of consonants. But talks about
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: that Simmons and mid Lachlin were not recruited by Fry.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: Let's not forget that. When Simmons came in from San
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: Diego State, his f halfth grade was bad. There were
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: a lot of people like, what the hell are they
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: doing bringing this guy in? I mean he was if
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: I remember right, he was in the second portal. He
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: wasn't in the first portal. He was in the second portal.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: And there's a lot less chicken on the bone in
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: the second portal than there is in the first portal.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: And he wasn't very good for the first couple of games.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: And I think if you catch him in a moment
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: of honesty, I think Simmons would be the first one
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: to say that. So there was, Yeah, somebody else began
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: his development. But you know, and I'm not saying I think.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Fry gets a lot of credit for Simmons.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: He picked him out of the portal, He recruited him
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: out of the portal and he developed him into what
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: is likely going to be a first round draft pick.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: Like you can say what you want about I've had
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: my more than my.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Fair share of criticisms of the offensive lion off the
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: line recruiting over the years, but you have to give
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: him credit for Simmons. He identified him in the portal,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: took him on a bunch of people were like why
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: are they doing this, and made and he blossomed into
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: essentially a first round pick battle heights. So McLaughlin's a
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: little different, obviously spending so much time at Alabama, but
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: you know, people forget his his Michigan performance last year
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: and you had fans were ready to run him right
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: out of town.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: He was kind of their Kyle.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: McCord scapegoat for their season and like, you know, he
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: got he got that under control, and we didn't see
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: any of that this year. So I don't know, Like
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: I I'm happy to talk about like Fry's negatives, but
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: I just I don't think. I think Josh Simmons is
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: a big, big positive on his scouting report.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: Ohio State has kind of had the same situation at
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: OL coach. I don't know if I'm going to put
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: stud in that same position. And you know, I mean,
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: maybe I just have an aversion to the stud years
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: or whatever. I don't know, but marginal recruiters and pretty
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: decent development. Now again, you can only develop what you got,
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: and when you miss, when you don't hit your number,
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: or you sit there and you bring in guys that
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: probably we're never going to play at Ohio State, you
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: get what you get. But I mean, you know Ohio State,
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: you know, certainly with Ed Warner. Ed Warner was like
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: the most awkward recruiter out there, and they did everything
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: they could to hide him on the recruiting trail because
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: players would have run through a brick wall that was
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: on fire for him. Though, But if you were a recruit,
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: you're like, who's this WEIRDO? I mean, it's just kind
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: of how it was. And so I'm not I'm not
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: going to dismiss the disappointment that people have with you know,
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: maybe with the offensive line, but I'm going to sit
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: there and try and point people in a direction that
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: I think is correct. And I think that there are
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: there are some narratives out there about Fry that are unfair.
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: Let me jump through here we've answered that one we
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: Mika is Will Howard healthy. Everybody's beat up at this point. Everybody,
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: you know, nobody's one hundred percent the healthiest you are
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: generally ninety eight percent of the time. Is day one
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: a fall camp, and then it all goes downhill there.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: I think everybody's a little, as I say, a little
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: beat up. But you know, I've not heard anything I
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: will say on a name that I did find interesting.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: I did. I didn't sleep last night. I can't sleep.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: I'm just don't ask. I just can't sleep anymore. I
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: watched the four hour on fast forward, the four hour
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: ESPN show, and they were talking about, you know, as
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: if it was fact, about how Jeremiah Smith has been hurt.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: Now we remember he got his ankle twisted against Northwestern
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: and they, you know, they pointed out the numbers were
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: down and that you know, maybe he should, you know,
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: maybe he'll be healthier with kind of having this little
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: bit of an extended break or whatever. But you know,
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: Ohio State had Oiste doesn't talk about injuries. But that's
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: not been anything that we've talked about. But you know,
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: I've not heard anything necessarily on Will Howard. I mean Yeah,
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: he got he got hit hard against Michigan and probably
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: wasn't right, but you're getting it. I mean, even if
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: he was kind of in the questionable concussion protocol, he's
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: gonna have enough time to clear out of that.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, my my answer to that would be, he's
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: he's probably as healthy as you would expect anyone to
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: be at this point in the season. I don't see
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: any lingering effects from the hit he took against Michigan showing.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: Up, but.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: He's he's got to make better decisions. That's the that's
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: the key thing he's got. He's got to make better decisions.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: That he made in that game. Absolutely, I think he's
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: pretty healthy, right. Need more cow Bell again? Need more
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: detackles or how many tackles de tackles does Georgia need?
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: Maybe they could spare one or two. Ohio State isn't
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: going to spare a backup quarterback to Georgia. With Carson
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: Beck getting blasted and even Gunner Stockton got got popped
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: on what looked like a targeting callers something like that.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: It doesn't don't work that way. But I understand the
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: tongue in cheek nature of your comment and down there
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: in the South. That's where that's where a lot of
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: these d tackles are grown. I mean, it's just it's
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: just the reality of it. I mean, you know, Ohio
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: State goes to Georgia and gets Caden McDonald there. You know,
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: they're they're one tech and you know, they're just other
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: you know, other guys that are from Georgia and Alabama
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: and Mississippi and Louisiana, and it's you can get them
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: sometimes if you're Ohio State, but you're got your I
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: mean Georgia. You know, Georgia's got a couple of natties
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: here recently, and it's it's gonna be tough to beat
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: them on some of these kids, especially, you know, we
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: always say that, you know, the bigger the kid, you know,
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: the bigger the mama's boy, and it's sometimes harder to
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: get them from, you know, away from home.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: I actually like their defensive tackle out looks for next year.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: I've been a big proponent of playing Cad McDonald more.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: I hope he plays more snaps in the playoffs. I
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: think he's earned more playing time. I think he makes
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: big plays pretty much whenever he's in the game. So
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I'm actually I'm actually pretty optimistic about their defensive tackle
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: outlook for next year. I think they've got a game
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: changer with MacDonald and a good foundation there with some depths,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: some young guys and you know, another year development from
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Jason Moore and some of these other guys are kind
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: of growing into their roles. So you know, I'm not
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: too worried about it. I mean, if look, the great
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: player comes on the portal shore, I think almost every position,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: especially want like D line where you can rotate and
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: take a look. But I don't like when I sit
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: here and I think about, Okay, what is really concerning
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: about next year, I don't really think about defensive tackle
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: too much.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: I'm going to punch this up from Greg. This was
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: something that kind of set the internet on fire here
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: recently about Chase Herbstreet, who committed to Michigan. Having seen
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: Chase serbs Street play four times. He's a homeless man's
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: Tate Martel. Now, you know, I understand that we're in
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: a casual chat and we make comments like that or whatever.
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, it certainly was a surprising move. I think
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: it was like a sy op in my opinion. I
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: think that you know, it was just kind of tweak
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: Ohio State. Let's not forget his twins went to Clemson,
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: and then his next kid went to Ohio State, had
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: the you know, very scary health moment, medically retired, and
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: now Chase, who I think is probably the best of
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: the kids in terms of being a football player. But
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: you know, I again, being in the same clock classes
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: Underwood and everything else. I mean again, Davis Warren managed
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: to play. So I mean they've been I've seen I've
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: seen crazier bleep happen, supertrat b Man. Bride didn't develop
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: seth he was all sec center two years ago. And
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: Simmons is an athletic freak watch o line hand technique.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: It's horrible again, you know. And I'll let Mark take
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: lead on this one. I'm just gonna say that Simmons
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: go back and look at the PFF grades. Everybody wrote
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: the stories. I mean, I don't think we can go
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: back all that far in the message board to see
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: the posts. But the people were flipping out. I don't
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: understand what they're doing. Why didn't they pursue more offensive
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: linemen in the first portal? Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: I didn't say that Fry was the offensive line whisperer.
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: I didn't say he was the best developer. Ohio State
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: doesn't have six Joe More Awards or anything else, but
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: under the coaching of Justin Fry, Josh Simmons has played
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: his way into being a first round draft pick. Facts
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: are facts. Yeah, I am not an offensive lineman. I'm
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: not an offensive lineman guru. So I could go in
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: and try and watch hand technique and I'd probably be like, yeah, okay,
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: and as my eyes lays over, it's just not not
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: something that I'm interested in. But I still think Fry
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: is getting I think some of the criticism is based
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: in fact, and I think some of it is based
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: in just people being ready for somebody else.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I don't think anyone's giving him real much credit.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: With McLoughlin, you know, he spent several years Alabama. You
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: really can't use Josh Simmons against front. Josh Simmons was
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: a one year starter at San Diego State. Who Ohio
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: State fans were almost perturbed that they even took him.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: Thought some other guys out there were better that ended
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: up not being better, And everyone was kind of like
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: this was their big splash.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah it was.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: He was developed into a first round pick, and yeah
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: he's Josh Simmons is a great athlete. I can't possibly
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: think of the last good offensive tackle left. He wasn't
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: a great athlete. I mean that's kind of goes with
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: the position. You still to You still have to coach them.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: You still have to teach them.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: So I look, we can we cannot give credit for McLoughlin.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: That's fine. We have to give credit for Simmons.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: So there's there's no matter how much you don't like
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Justin Frye, you can't possibly talk your way out of
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: the Josh Simmons deel like that. That was clearly the
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: best thing Justin fry has done at Ohio State is
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: getting Simmons out of the portal and then developing it.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: I will say this, it seems of all of the
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: positions for coaches in college football, there are the least
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: amount of offensive line coaches out there that seem to
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: be in this upper cut. It's even at Tennessee when
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: David Sanders was still having explirtations with Ohio State down
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: the stretch, there were Tennessee fans. I was lurking on
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: their boards that were ready to run their coach out
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: because of recruiting failures and the worried recruiting failure on
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: David Sanders. So it's yes, Ohio State is the biggest
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: athletic department out there, most sports. You know, all this revenue,
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. If there are only
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: fifteen offensive line coaches out there in the nation that
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: that check all the boxes, yeah, you'd be like, well,
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: Ohio State should be able to just go in and
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: take one. You know, it's Ohio State, for God's sake.
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, but that hasn't been the case. I mean,
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: we can go back to stud and we can go
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: back the Warner, and we can go back to Bowman.
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: When when was the last offensive line coach at Ohio
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: State that fans are happy with? I don't I don't
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: know the answer. I don't know the answer to it.
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, definitely pre internet, definitely pre cell phone, maybe
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: even maybe even pre like color TV. I don't know.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, clearly things have got to improved, whether
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: that's recruiting, whatever, how wherever you want to place the
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: most blame in terms of what they're doing wrong with
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: you off line.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: The play has to improve there.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: I think we have to be able to talk about
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: things objectively, Like I can sit here in priticize of
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: the line recruiting.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: I can sit here and talk about a million things
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: I don't like about the other line.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: But I'm not going to like he has to get
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: credits or else we're just not having an honest conversation.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: I'm going to jump ahead to this one the first.
• 56:21
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• 56:23
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• 57:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is like transfer portals. Nuts is first day.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: We alrealy got hundreds in there.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: But this is the question I wanted to get to,
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: and I still have other questions in the queue that
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: we'll get to. When is Ohio State going to hire
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: a kicking coach. Whose state got away from having a
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: special teams coordinator with Parker Fleming. That just didn't work.
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: What Ohio State is doing now, I don't think it's
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: necessarily working. Okay, Heartline, you handle this part, and while
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: you handle this part, and Ryan Day will handle this part.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying you need to go back to having
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: a coordinator. You don't need to have a special teams coach,
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: kicking coach that goes out on the road, that does
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: not have to be one of your recruiting coaches. You
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: can handle that kind of recruiting at your camps. When
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: the kids come in to see you. You don't have
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: to go out. You can have somebody who can swing
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: by and see a kid or whatever that's necessary. I
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: do think that there is some merit of having somebody
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: to Larsonowitz's comment or whatever about having somebody who is
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: tasked with being a mechanical, kicking, punting coach, whatever, I
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: think that there is certainly something to that. These coaching
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: staffs are just getting larger and larger and larger and larger.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, you look at Mark Pantoni's staff on the
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: fruiting side, having to have portal people and everything else.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: And I don't know if buried under eight layers of
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: you know, QC's and everything else, they have a kicking coach.
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: But if they don't, why the hell not? I mean
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: they need to.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just can't be one of your ten, Like
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: it can't be one of your on the road recruit.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: You don't want to do that.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: But with support staffs being as big as they are now,
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: it does make sense to have someone who can kind
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: of come in and work on mechanics and maybe even
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: more so, work on the mental component, which seems to
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: be the biggest thing with kickers, kickers and goalies.
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: Here we go from rick s and there is also
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: one that Swish or with fives in there. I'm assuming
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: it's Swish has something similar there. I haven't done the
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: deep dive at players in the portal yet, but three
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: guys caught my eye wide receiver Eric Singleton, junior tight
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: end Max player, and safety Dylan Thienman. I know he
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: was at crude. So thoughts on those guys, Mark, I mean, again,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: you'd mentioned earlier about wide receiver where that may necessarily stand,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, but your thoughts.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the problem is like Singleton's a star,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Like he's an absolute star, and I think he would
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: probably compliment what ohiot it has right now. He's more
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: of like a deep ball, quick twitch guy. The problem
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: you're going to have is there are bigger issues and
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: receiver on this roster. Obviously, I think we can all
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: agree on that. And to get a player like Singleton
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: out of the portal is not going to be cheap.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: And you're already you've got Jeremiah Smith on the roster.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: You've got Carnel Tate and Brandon Innis, and you've got
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: some of the guys are bringing in and Mylin Graham
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, how can we justify this? And
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: if you're Singleton, you know you're not going to be
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: wide receiver one at all, Like Jeremiah Smith is wide
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: receiver one the next time. So like, it's going to
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: be really hard to find a receiver like that in
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: the Actually, it's gonna be.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: Really hard to make the money work.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be really hard to convince the player that
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: he's going to get enough targets Like that's going to
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: be a really tough thing for them to accomplish. But
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: in a vacuum, Yeah, like Singleton's a stud I don't
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: know how active they'll be at safety. Like obviously Downs
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: is back. They very much like what they saw from
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Jalen McLain so far this year. That's been kind of
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: a nice surprise. They still have Malie Hartford. I think fahem,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Delayne coming in is going to be a guy who's
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: being very difficult to keep off the field as a freshman.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: They may just let that ride.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: And then tight End. I I just don't know.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're they're losing a couple Jlannie Thurman's got
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: some good minutes this year. Then at Christian's got some
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: minutes this year, you know, bringing in two more What
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: room is to Marian Witten in next year? Seeing the
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: receiver room or seeing the tight end room, that's another
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: that's another offensive weapon at the position.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think again, you're gonna have a hard
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: time with a big name tight end because you're not
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: really throwing to the tight ends a ton. And then like,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: so are you gonna are you gonna be the high
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: bidder for like a tight end in the portal? I
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: think I think there's some issues there as well. I
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: think you're more likely to get some like.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: Like block.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like like some just blocking specialists to help you
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: run your twelve personnel.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: But well, see we are here at an hour. We
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: will have a couple more cast questions. We'll keep going.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: Obviously super chats will keep us here longer. But you know,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: we try to do this weekly as schedules permit. Generally
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: at three o'clock. We had to move ato three point
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: thirty this week. Again, sinking up schedules not always the
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: easiest thing to do with so many moving pieces going on.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: Mika Hannah, any truth to the rumor of us going
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: after a transfer quarterback? I don't think we touched upon
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: this in the quite the Q and A section, just
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: you know my thought, how many quarterbacks are the loose?
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, I know, I know that I heard the
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: rumors out there, people talking about it or whatever. I
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: think you're going to have to bring in somebody. But
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: you're not going to go out and bring in Dylan Gabriel. Now,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: I've heard the rumor out there that you know that
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: that it was being reported by somebody that maybe they
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: they go after, you know, a one year top end quarterback.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: I don't, you know, I don't know if I'm necessarily
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: subscribing to that one. Yet. One of the things that
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: Ohio State hasn't done this year, despite being up in
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: so many games, is really get a lot of experience
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: for its younger quarterbacks. Obviously, Devin Brown has been the two.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: He's on his way out. I haven't seen a ton
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: of Julian saying yes. I remember when Julian Sayan had
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: been a Christian on a touchdown going into the north
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: end zone at Ohio Stadium, and it was nice. It
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: was great. But you know, I don't I don't know
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: what's going on. But you go out and you bring
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: in a one year rental quarterback, could you lose all
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: of your quarterbacks if you do that? I mean you
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: have you have to have a path to grow your room.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: You have to have a path of proper matriculation. Fifty
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: s word right there. You have to have a proper
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: path for that, because if not, how are you, I mean,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: how are you going to sit there? Necessarily recruit now.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: It's not going to scare off Pavian Saint Clair. I mean,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: he's coming in as a true freshman. But I wouldn't
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: do anything to risk running off Julian saying, and I'm
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: not saying that's necessarily the case. I just the math
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: doesn't work for me. The math doesn't work for me
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: on how that is. I reserve the right to have
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: a different opinion in seven days.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Though short answer to your question is yes, they're going
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: to go after a transfer quarterback. The longer answer is
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: is that is that transfer quarterback going to look more
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: like Gunner Hoak or is it going to look like
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: more like Will Howard. I think something is very key here,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: like if this staff is going to be here long term,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: and I really don't have a reason I think they're
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: not going to be at this point. They have to
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: get the Julian Saying situation right, which means they have
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: to properly evaluate him, and they have to make the
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: right decision on whether or not they're going with him
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: next year or whether they would bring in a starting
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: caliber quarterback from the portal and risk running him off.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: So there are conversations there that are going to have
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: to take place. My instinct personally is you let Julian
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: Saying be your starting quarterback next year. They talked highly
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: of him throughout the off season, watching him at practice.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: I think the ball comes off his hand a little
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: bit different than a lot of the other guys on
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: the roster, like Will Howard and Devin Brown. But if
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: someone and I'm the Quinn Yewers rumor obviously Bobby macaskham
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: of Queen Years rumor, so Queen Ewrs is not going
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: to be the starting quarterback of Texas next year, Like
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: that's just a fact.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: Now is he going to go to the NFL?
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but he's not gonna be starting quarterback
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: in Texas like Arch Manning is going to be the
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: starting quarterback in Texas. You can take that, take that
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: to the bank, whatever whatever slogan you want to use there.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: So it is possible that Quinn Ewers could be on
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: the market this offseason. And while I wouldn't say Quinn.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: Has been like.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: A generational player or maybe or lived up to me
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: maybe that number one ranking, I do think he's been
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: a very good college quarterback. And you would have to
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: think his market value to some of these programs are
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: like a like a Florida State or a you know,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of Georgia. You would have to
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: think his market value would be several million dollars. What
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: Ohio State play that game is the interesting kind of hypothetical.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: I think for like someone like yours, I think they
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: would at least make a phone call and kind of
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: kick some tires.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: See what he's thinking. But again, you really better.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Be careful with Julian's like you have to get Joys
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: saying right now. If you don't think Julian Sayan is
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: your guy, then do what you have to do at
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: that point. But if you think Julian Sayan's going to
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: be a really good college quarterback for you, I would
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: start that process next year.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: I was gonna take This isn't a Tate Martell situation
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: of where you sit there and it's like, well, we
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: can't wait to describe he's the next man up and
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: we don't feel great about it. So, I mean, I
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: don't know Russy Jesse's that could Ohio State pursue Jalen Kidna,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: who played a lot at UAB this year. Again, it's
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: it's going to come.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: Down to you. You're looking at the evaluation.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: Of what they have.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: I mean you, yeah, again, I think you're looking at
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: one year rental starter or you're looking at experience over backup.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Like I don't think you're splitting the difference there on
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: someone like Jalen King, Like, I think you're you're talking
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: when you weres or or something similar to that, or
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: you're talking Gunner Hoke Like. I don't think they're going
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: anything in between. I don't think they want a guy
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: with like three years of URM left, because now you're
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: blocking all sorts of other Like, I really think it's
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: gonna be an all or nothing. It's gonna be it's
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: gonna be a top of the market guy that you
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: think is a difference maker you can get your little hump,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: or it's guy who will likely never play but gives
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: you some depth in the room and some experience.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: We'll kind of power through a couple because I keep
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: adding questions to the que as they see them. Cow
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: Bell Winds Oio State have to get to the one
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: oh five roster limit house settlement. I mean, is that
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: thing even fully signed yet at this point, I mean,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: I think it's still in purgatory.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe so.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: So I don't have the answer to that right the
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: second I believe Kevin's right that it's still kind of
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: in purgatory. I mean, it won't be a problem for
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Ohio State. It will just be some be fewer walk ons.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: I guess right. I mean, you're just gonna have to
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: kind of figure it out. I mean, and again, I
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: just I don't want We'll just call him Brian ass.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: I don't want him texting me and yelling at me
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: about one oh five because he always seems to text
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: me at the worst possible times. But it'll get sorted out.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: They'll get sorted out. But nothing. I don't think anything
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: is official on that yet. Yeah. Sure, uh clever An Witty.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: Why are we recruiting all these five store quarterbacks and
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: none of them are playing? I think some of it
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: has to go down to how quarterbacks are getting ranked.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, is one thing, and then it's just there's
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: also geometry to it of when you come in and
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: what's ahead of you and everything else. So it's not
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: as simple as like, Okay, three services decided you were
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: a five star. That doesn't mean that the football gods
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: decided that you were a five star and that you
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: are a five star. And I'm not saying that Ohio
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: State kids that were previously five stars are not as
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: good as reported, but there's just a lot of geometry
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: that goes into work there. And then also when you
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: have players who leave early for NFL declarations, that really
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: screws up the math. That is far and away a
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: bigger kick in the jewels than a bad evaluation is
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: when somebody you hit on this guy and he was right,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: and CJ. Stroud did this and c J. Stroud did
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: that and he's off to the NFL. It's like we
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: weren't exactly ready for him to leave yet.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: There is a point there low of you don't want
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: this to get to a point where you sign you know,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: four or five five star quarterbacks and none of the
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: never end up starting for you, while you bring in
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: transfers to like there is there is a recruiting component
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: of this that I think is important. And so that
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: is part of why. You know, if if you think
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: Julian Sane is ready to play, I think you should play.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: If he's not ready to play, why isn't he like you,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: you know, quarterback should be ready to play year two.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: If if again, if they're not being blocked by an
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: even better one. You know, but it's it's going to
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: be a little bit concerning, I think to me, if
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: if saying doesn't play next year. I just because eventually
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, why are you keep bringing in these guys?
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: They gotta play, right, like you gotta eventually someone you know,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: can get in this national battle with Alabama or Georgia
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: or USC or Texas, And like why would you go
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: to Ohio State?
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: All their five star quarterbacks never play?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: So there is some there is something to that, But
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: I tend to think Julian Sayan is going to be
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: who kind of breaks that little mini streak they're.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: On right now.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: If you're not going to start playing the quarterbacks you recruit,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: why are you recruiting quarterbacks? Why not just go to
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: the portal every year every two years or whatever? And
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: I know that that's you know, I'm I'm I'm throwing
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: a real blunt answer out there, but there's there's a
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: ton of truth to it. If you're if you're not
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: gonna if you're not gonna play your own quarterbacks, then
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: stop recruiting them, stop wasting time and doing that, and
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: put all that time and effort in getting the next
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: great one who's leaving whatever program or whatever. So you know,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I've got a couple more left. Mika
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: Hannah what's up with Philip Bowser.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: In terms of.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: I don't have I just I just put a Mika
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: knows every name in Ohio, so I assume that.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, they've offered it. He's a line and they've
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: offered I mean, look, this is like, so this is
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: what we're going to see basically go away for the
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: most part. I mean I'm not I'm not saying what's
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: going to entirely go away, but for the most part,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: what we're going to see go away is this like
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: preferred walk on program because a lot of schools I
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: think are going to either only go with scholarship players
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: or it's gonna be a very limited like you know,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: let's say you've got ninety five guys on your roster,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: and like you know, ninety of them are going to
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: be scholarship.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: You might have five.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: The days of the twenty thirty forty man, you know,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: walk on brigades are coming to an end. So Philip
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Bowser is kind of a a I guess, a bridge
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: to that. In past years, Philip Bowser would be a
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: preferred walk on. But now that you're able to have
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: more than eighty five scholarship guys or you will be
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: you're able to offer that guy a scholarship and kind
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: of stash him for a couple of years and see
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: if you can develop him. So that's kind of like,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: I don't I wouldn't get the sense that this is
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: like a guy who's going to be heavily in the
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: mix moving forward. But I think this is more of
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: an extension of a preferred walk on type of offer.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: And just now it looks different because you can offer
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: more than eighty five scholarships.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: Last one in the queue, So if you want to
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: keep us here any longer and keep me from running
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: the Giant Eagle and picking up some prescriptions, and so we.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: Have to wrap this up with some grib talk because
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm seeing the band. I know, I'm record straight
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: a little.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: Pizza in the fridge right now, and I'm like, there's
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: a McDonald's across the street from the Giant Eagle, and
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: I'm struggling with that because I've already had my damn
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: mic rib. We already told the story how I got
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: one with no sauce on it. I was pissed. But
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: tick ass is comment. One thing we need to look
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: at when it comes to Portalbrook is taking guys that
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: Michigan wants deprive them. If Michigan wants a guy and
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: we can get them, then do the evaluation and go
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: get him. Now, Michigan's portal plan work sometimes and it
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: doesn't other times. A couple of years ago they did
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: a really good job of hitting the portal and getting
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: offensive line. And I think that a lot of Buckeye
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: fans would sing allelujah if Ohio State could do that.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: I also understand the zero sum game of for every
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: kid you get that somebody that your foes can't get.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: But if you get yourself so caught up in what
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: is going on there, you're going to tie yourself in
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: mental knots and and I don't I don't think that
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: it's a great strategy in my opinion.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: I think there's something to be said for like their
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: evaluations on the old line and maybe taking an extra
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: closer look at those guys. But yeah, at the end
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: of the day, you kind of have to trust yourself,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: trust your own evaluations. But there's no doubt they would
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: like to pull some of these battles from Michigan. I mean,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: they tried to at the high school level, like Avery
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: Gatch We weren't able to get him this cycle and
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: went to Michigan and the Michigan Kid. So it it's
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: something I think to keep back of mind for sure.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't like be as like literal with it, as like,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: oh we have to if they offer him, we have
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: to offer them, go get them, But like I would
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: absolutely keep an eye on it.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: Got my McRib.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: Conversation. Then I got to go. I'm open that one
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: if I go get these damn prescriptions, one of them
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: will let me actually sleep. So that's that's my hope.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I got my McRib yesterday. I
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: got two of them. No fries, just two mcribs. Nothing else.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: You know, we hosted Thanksgiving like we do every year,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: and I did a big grocery run for that, and
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: then I went to Canton for the state championship. So
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: there's like no food in the house yesterday, and we're
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: sitting around, I'm working writing stuff up, cutting some video,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: got the Eagles on in the background, Philadelphia Eagles, not
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: the band, and just kind of hanging out and you know,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: halftime of the Eagles game, I'm like, Okay, what are
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: we gonna eat? There's nothing in this house, like well,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: mcgribbs a mcdonalill. I went and I got I got
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: a couple of the GRIBs. They were fantastic. They were
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: properly sauced. And now I need to kind of be
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: careful because I've had my two. I don't want to
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: overdo it. I don't to you know, it's how addiction
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: forms like. Gotta be careful. So I'll probably try and
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: abstain for a while. Now. We'll see how long McDonald's
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: keeps them available though, because that could be a could
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: be a battle of willpower there if they keep these
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: things in stock for the next few weeks. But I
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: did get my I did get my McRib.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: There you go. I mean, there's only one healthy addiction
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: and that's signing up for bucke huddle dot com. But
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: I digress. We did get a super chat, so we
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: will hit with this. So we don't end with mick
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: rib talk unless we get a super chat about McK
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: ribs again from b Mans. The issue looking at getting
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: three starting o linement in the portal or is that
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: rumor that we do not have any anyone in the
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: program ready now? Said earlier in the show, And I know,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: people come in and out of the show, so I
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: never really get upset about, you know, having to say
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: something again. I think two is the number. Now if
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: you can get three, if there are three that you're like,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: holy crap, these guys are all great and you know,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: potentially could be starters. I don't think you necessarily get
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: away from it. I with Miles Walker into the portal,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: I don't think that's the last Ohio State offensive lineman
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: enter the portal. I just don't. So going out and
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: getting these portal guys is one thing. Now, being able
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: to say unequivocally that they're going to be starters. Can
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: anybody do that? I mean, if you have that kind
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: of you know, magic, you know, magic eight ball, I'd
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: like some lottery numbers or something like that. Because we
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: don't we don't know, I mean, we don't know for sure,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: but I think two, two is the number they have
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: to hit. Three would be fantastic. But again, you also
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: don't want to sit there and create a point of
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: where Ian More and the Armstrong Twins and guys like
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: that are not able to develop and grow and find opportunity.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: But if again, if you don't have guys that are
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: ready and you're having just a problematic offensive line, go
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: out and fix it. You got to fix it, because
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: that is too damn important.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, I am Kevin and I permosion
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: on the same page here. I think minimum two and
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: I'd like to get three. But that third one it
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: can't be a reach, it can't. I don't think they
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: want to redo the Victor Cutler thing that just didn't work.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: So you know, they want to push the competition in
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: that room as much as possible. I think they feel
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: like they've got four or five guys coming back that
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: will be able to do that, maybe even five or six.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: But you want to you want to have for for
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: me in this day and age when of eight, having
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: ten or elevens unrealistic. You're not going to keep eleven offensive,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: good offensive lineman happy long enough for to matter.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: But you goat have eight.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: You gotta have a you gotta have a starting five.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: You gotta have two or three backups you really trust.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: So I think again, I think they're gonna want two
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: starters and then a third guy, either as a possible
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: starter or at least to come in and push the
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: young guys, push the competition so that the young guys
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: have to kind of you know, earn it versus we
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: don't have anyone else.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: So that that I think, you know, it is kind
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: of how they're looking at things right now.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: We'll wrap up with a couple of things of where
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: people are saying nice things to us. We always like that.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: Mike Smith, great job to you guys, by the way
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 4: on the National Signing Day coverage. You guys worked hard
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: for that one day. We work hard for a lot
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: of days. Thanks for the work. And then another one
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: from c w uh, thank you Kevin and Mark. Good
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: to see you buck eyes out there. You know again,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 4: we we we do it because we we love you
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: know what we do. Were are days that it can
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: be a slog and everything else, but you know, we
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: you know, we do it for you guys, and you
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: know you guys are are great fans and great supporters
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: and we appreciate you.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to thank uh. I know she's posted
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: a few nice things in the chat throughout the afternoon here,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: I like thank Doreen for her continued support of our site.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: But what I'd really like to thank her for shodwer
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: out for is her support of the entire Ohio State
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: podcasting community. She does a lot on social media to
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: you know, try and get a lot of stuff out
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: there for for all of the Ohio state podcasts, and
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: so I know she does a lot to help. It's
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: one of those things, like it's funny like podcast like
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: everyone thinks of like podcasting is like being hyper competitive.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: It's really not.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: It's not like we're fighting for like a seven pm
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: like TV time slot. Like our stuff's on demand, so
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: like you guys can go listen to three other podcasts
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: and then listen to ours and just you know, put
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: them on a playlist or something and listen to them.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: Everything's on demand on YouTube. So actually, like it's kind
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: of like a rising tide lifts all boats type of
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: thing where that the algorithm will like recognize like, oh,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: you like this Ohio State podcast, Well here's this one too,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: you should check this one. So like it the idea
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: that promoting like four or five different Ohigh state podcasts
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: on social media is actually helpful for all of us.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: So we reappreciate everyone's continued support on that front.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: I'll jump in with this Tim to Naples thing just
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: because I have a story on and then we'll go,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: can you guys acquire some buckeye backdrops? I have a
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: backdrop for buckeye growth previous site. Never used it. I
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: just don't feel right when first I'm in my you know,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: my little you know, kitchen table right now, I'm not
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: necessarily you know, the door behind me, so to the garage.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: I don't think I'm gonna set up a backdrop here.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: I guess I could in my office. I've actually started
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: working in my office again, but quite confused people. It'll
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 4: be like, uh, I thought Buck I Grove went away
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, but if you go to
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: Buckegrove dot com, it does forge you to buck a Huddle.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: So it would be great. I mean, I have had
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: plans of creating a little studio life happens. I have
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: all the equipment. I've had it for two years. I
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: just haven't gotten around to setting it up. I mean,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: but we would love to, you know, to have maybe
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: some better aesthetics or whatever. But for now, you just
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: get to see the bare walls in my uh you know,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: right by my kitchen.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I So it's funny.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: I used to have like the virtual backgrounds and I
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: had some different stuff and I have people be like,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: well that just looks fake. It doesn't or it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: look authentic or what you know whatever, So it's it's fine.
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  Speaker 3: It's like there's like a fifty to fifty split.
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  Speaker 2: There's like a bunch of people who would like to
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  Speaker 2: see like a buckeye huddle or some type of Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State centric background the ares other people like, well, it's
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  Speaker 2: just betterhe it's just like a natural thing.
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  Speaker 4: So I will uh, I don't like I don't like
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  Speaker 4: background myself, right, but.
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  Speaker 3: Some people like the more natural settings.
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  Speaker 2: And then some people are like, you know, they want
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  Speaker 2: like the fluffed up like but a big buckeye huddle
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  Speaker 2: thing in the back.
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  Speaker 4: If you're not properly lit, it looks bad. I mean,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: go back and watch the CFP reveal show, and Herb
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  Speaker 4: Street had the worst, the worst chroma key that I've
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  Speaker 4: ever seen. First of all, the background looked like he
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: was on the Death Star, and then you know they
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: were ready to throw him in the trash compactor, and
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: then you know the lighting was so bad, so they're
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: you know, there there are there are some you know,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: some things that esthetically that we could try to advance it.
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  Speaker 4: And if you don't execute it. It looks worse.
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  Speaker 2: Tell you what, I'll do a mcgrid backdrop. If McDonald's
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: spot answers the show, they're gonna have to pay for
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: that product place.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's you know, that's got it and they're gonna.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: We're gonna do a million views this month on our
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: YouTube channel. That's that is that is prime real estate here.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 4: And they can't ribs, they can't pay us and make ribbs.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: I'm all, I'm cash. My diet is already bad enough.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: I'm hanging on by a freaking thread. I think we're good, though,
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  Speaker 4: we're caught up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to do my Big Ten show with
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: Chip here. We're going to recap the Big Ten championship game.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about the playoff reveal and kind of
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: which programs got screwed. I would say one of them
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: is the program that we talked about quite frequently on
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: this channel, uh in the in the playoff rankings and
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: which one got a gift. So we'll have that up
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: here tonight, kind of breaking down the Big Ten angle
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: Head over to bucket huddle dot com.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: If you have more questions, we'll I'll get you there
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: as well, I have my chat tomorrow, but I if
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: you have something tonight, I can always jump on there
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: obviously and answer it. But I'll have my all day
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: chat tomorrow as well on the website, so look for
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: that as well. We're on the website. But again, thank
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: you everyone again for watching and listening. This should be
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: a regular here on Monday afternoons. We had a one
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: week hiatus last week because of all the sign DA craziness,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: but we'll be back again next Monday for the live show,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: and I think we'll have a couple of recorded ones
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: in the meantime as well. So thanks again for watching, listening,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll see you again very soon.