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F1 2025 | Italian GP Recap & Baku Preview - Fast Laps with the Boys · Banter with the Boys

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  get laced up let's go it's time for banter with
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  the boys welcome back to banter with the boys
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  fast laps where we got the italian gp recap the
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  azerbaijan gp Preview. Yes, I've done it. Put
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  a little sauce on it. Next to me, we got Joe.
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  I don't know. I'm so sorry. I'd like to formally
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  apologize. Someone possibly cringed. Ridiculously
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  cringed. That was an open. That was an opening.
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  There goes all the energy I had, though. Let's
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  turn it back to our normal voice. Mike. Inside
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  Voices. Also here. Happy to be here again. Since
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  we're on the cringe factor. With your Hulkenberg
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  steak hat. Hulkenberg hat. For you Spotify listeners.
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  In memoriam of Hulkenberg, who didn't die, but
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  didn't even start the race. Solidarity. Since
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  we're on our cringe streak right now, excited
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  to talk about all sorts of things, including
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  what happened with McQuillan. Yeah. It's a Sauber's
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  natural state, you know? In the garage. In the
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  garage. Or on the side of the road. Yeah. Yeah.
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  They finish. I'm not wearing anything. Don't
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  wear Alpine finishes. They're just at the back.
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  Okay, sorry. For our Spotify listeners, I am
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  wearing things. I'm Wink. We're good. Don't worry.
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  He's wearing green. I hope so. Anyway. All right.
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  There's a lot going on. Kev's behind the cameras
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  getting everything done for us. Of course. Yes.
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  Let's just move on, Kev, to our Italian GP recap.
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  Recap. Oh, my God. I can't. To start. Our pre
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  -race banter. Yes, that's what we call it. You
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  know, quality, practice, yada, yada. Joe, you
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  usually, no offense, but you usually pull it
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  up here because you just always have notes on
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  it, so it just works out. Definitely not as much
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  as the last race we had. We had a ton of notes
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  pre -race. This time around... Mind you, this
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  race happened a minute ago. It did. Two weeks
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  ago now. So just as a reminder, Hamilton did
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  have a five -grid place penalty coming into the
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  weekend. Ferrari still looked pretty quick in
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  practices, though. Piastri was a little off the
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  pace all weekend leading up to the race. And
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  I think part of it is that he did not get to
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  practice an FV1 because he had to give up a seat
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  to a rookie. So it kind of leads me to believe
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  that maybe maybe piastre just kind of like he
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  really like thrives Having those practice sessions
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  and getting stuff down or maybe he just wasn't
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  as comfortable this weekend in the car quality
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  Fastest Q1 was Russell was the fastest in Q1
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  with mediums. He had a little sound bite at the
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  end of Q3 asking why they didn't put him on mediums
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  again. And then Max Verstappen, right after Lando,
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  sets the fastest lap in F1 history. Max Verstappen
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  sets it. So that's the second race weekend in
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  a row where Max or Lando gets the record and
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  then Max or someone else breaks it. So pre -race,
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  yep. Fun stuff. Wow. Energy is just gone. So
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  fun. He burned it all in the beginning. No. Yeah.
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  Max, starting at the front of the grid for us
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  as we head into our Italian GP here, followed
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  by, let's see, Norris, Piastri, LeClaire, Russell,
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  Antonelli, which you have a note here that I'm
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  curious about, Bortoletto, Alonso, Sonota, and
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  Hamilton. Where would you like to start? You
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  know what? Let's start with Aston because it'll
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  be real quick. Yeah. Alonzo didn't finish the
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  race. Stroll. Stroll. P18. Was this your doing,
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  Joe? Sad trombone. Yeah, sad trombone. That's
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  hilarious. Yeah, it's pretty sad. So we were
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  talking about this earlier. We were watching
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  the recap before we started this. The DNF from
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  Alonzo was a suspension failure and they did
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  some research as to what caused that suspension
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  failure because it looked like he just took the
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  corner and his car just went and was just done.
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  Come to find out what happened was a rock had
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  gotten kicked up and it hit the suspension in
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  the perfect place and basically snapped the suspension.
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  So apparently there was a large enough sized
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  rock in the gravel trap that got into. into there
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  and basically kicked up and hit the perfect point
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  and hit the basically like they're like this
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  shouldn't be happening and we don't expect to
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  see this happen again but it's something that
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  can just kind of happen i'm not impressed with
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  that yeah so that's so that that is why he took
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  the dnf i guess so okay more more from the alonzo
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  unlucky season Literally. This has been super
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  unlucky for Alonzo all season, yes. Let's see.
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  I mean, I don't need to say anything on Aston.
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  No, I mean, it was really rough seeing Alonzo
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  go down and then Stroll being Stroll, you know.
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  Actually, I don't think Stroll did anything wrong.
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  I think he actually got screwed over a little
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  bit with that collision with Esteban. I think
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  it was Esteban. Yeah, you know, just. Pretty
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  bad weekend for Aston. After a good one, I think,
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  they had in Zandvoort. Yeah, they were super
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  fast in Zandvoort. I will just touch on Alpine
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  really quick. I mean, just not good. Not good.
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  Gasly finishing P16, Colapinto P17. A couple
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  weeks ago, Joe made our little document here.
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  organize our notes he said who is this team again
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  i just kind of left it in there i was like yeah
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  yeah this is this is pretty much still holding
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  true so um i would like them to get better at
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  some point i'm i mean and like i've been super
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  high on it all year that they will trend up as
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  the season ends like they've done literally the
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  past two seasons actually so but we're not quite
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  seeing that yet so it's You know, I'm more or
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  less looking forward to next season, you know,
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  when they will be powered by that Mercedes power
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  unit. I'm wondering how much of this is literally
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  just the fault of Renault was like, yeah, we're
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  cashing it in. And so there's just been no upgrades
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  to the powertrain division. And like they're
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  just they can't compete, especially on these
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  high power circuits like Monza. I expect them
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  to do really poorly at Baku as well because it's
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  another high power circuit. Like the Renault
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  engine is just bad. I expect him to be better
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  next year. I hope so. I hope so. Like we were
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  talking before we started the show, I've been
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  seeing a ton of articles lately saying, like,
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  is Gasly just wasting his career at Alpine, or
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  is he, like, too good for Alpine or whatever?
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  So, I don't know. As a Gasly fan, that's been
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  fun to watch, but also sucks to think about that.
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  Like, yeah, he's been there for a minute now.
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  Nothing seems to have improved. So let's hope
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  for 2026, right? Probably be saying that for
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  every episode the rest of the season. So let's
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  see. Haas. Yeah. What happened? I don't know.
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  There was some incidents. I think both drivers
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  got into incidents, didn't they? Yeah, because
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  Ocon had an incident with Stroll. I think that
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  was just very clearly Ocon's fault, I feel. I
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  don't even remember the incident because I remember
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  watching it and just rolled my eyes and just
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  kept going. And then there was the incident between
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  Oliver Behrman and... Just an acceptance. Yeah,
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  just an Oconism. And then there was the incident
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  with Behrman and Carlos Saenz. We'll go to blows
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  on this. I think it's a racing incident. I think
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  Oliver shouldn't have gotten beat. No, yeah,
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  I think... I think that's fair. I think it probably
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  is more of a racing incident. I think he was
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  not fully, I mean, he wasn't enough alongside
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  signs to still think it was his, I think signs
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  still probably could have given, gave him room.
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  Um, if anyone was to get a penalty, I do think
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  it would have been, should have been, should
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  be bearable, but I'd be happy with it also just
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  being a racing incident. I would. prefer it to
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  be racing isn't it this is like the so like this
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  is where we get into the same thing we were talking
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  about with signs and lawson where like it's all
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  about racing integrity do we want to see racing
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  or do we want to watch them just do time trials
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  right so like like oliver was making a move it
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  was a bit of a bold move but it was a move and
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  at that point like carlos should be defending
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  but at that point like he's already got oliver
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  beerman on the inside and carlos took no changing
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  actions he just took the racing line and just
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  expected that oliver would just give him the
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  spot and like is that really racing? I mean,
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  it is because they don't need to give space unless
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  there are certain length, like aside them. So
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  it's like, he's, he's fighting within the rules.
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  Baron wasn't enough. Wasn't there enough, at
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  least in my perspective, he could have been,
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  and maybe the FAA had been wrong before. I mean,
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  I'm going to touch on something that they were
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  wrong on very soon, but, uh, yeah, I just, it,
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  it is unfortunate. Um, I, I think, I mean, really,
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  uh, Signs has just been given a bad hand race
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  after race after race. As he's wearing the Williams
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  hat. Yeah, it's truly wearing this because for
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  signs, like solidarity for the man, because he
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  has just been given up a bad hand over and over
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  and over again. And I feel like he's been picking
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  it up. He's been trying. And he's been improving,
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  too. We're seeing him improve, and then he just
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  keeps on getting into these incidents. And most
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  of the time, I don't feel like they're his fault.
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  A lot of them, they are racing incidents. If
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  a lot of the time they are racing in incidents,
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  then yeah, it probably is a learning experience
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  that he should be taking back. Right. But yeah.
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  Honestly, when I watched the incident happen,
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  the only solidarity I took in the fact that they
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  gave Oliver that penalty was the fact that I'm
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  like, this is exactly what happened with Carlos.
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  My thought process was like, maybe they're just
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  giving Oliver this penalty to have some sort
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  of consistency because they gave it to Carlos
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  last race. And, you know. Or not last race, two
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  races ago. No, it was... It was Hungary that
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  it happened. No, it was Zandvoort. Was it Zandvoort?
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  Oh, it was Zandvoort. You're right, it was turn
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  one of Zandvoort. Yeah, so, like, I'm like, maybe
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  this is just, you know, they're doing it for
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  consistency's sake. I don't like that, but at
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  least they're consistent with their rules. And
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  you're going to talk about that. It only is going
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  to make me more upset that Oliver still has this
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  penalty. I think Haas should get on the FIA for
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  the exact same thing. Sure. I almost cursed.
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  I'll watch my language. Very, very. No, you're
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  fine. Very emotional. Worked up about that one.
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  What do you think? Rightfully so. As a unbiased.
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  Yeah. Very unbiased. Truly very curious what
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  your opinion is on that move. For me. It seemed
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  like, I mean, of course we're going to see it
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  from a way different perspective than the two
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  drivers, right? Of course. But it felt like to
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  me, Carlos, I actually just didn't straight up.
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  I don't know. For me, it definitely seemed more
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  in Carlos than it did Bierman. I mean, yeah,
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  Bierman, Carlos had the turn, you know. He had
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  the right, there it is right here. It's literally
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  happening again right here. He's watching it
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  happen. I just. I don't know. I feel like Carlos
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  needs to give more room there. I mean, it was
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  a tight race going up to the turn, and you know
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  that he's there. It's not like he took off past
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  Bierman on the straight for me. He got up next
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  to him, but it's not like it was a full overtake.
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  I don't know. I feel like you got to give him
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  a little room there. I don't think anybody should
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  have got a... Can you bring that back for two
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  seconds? Not to mention, I do believe they were
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  racing side -by -side beforehand. Go just a little
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  bit further back. Yeah, so they're side -by -side
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  racing here. So they're side -by -side racing,
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  and Carlos simply late -braked the corner and
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  then tried to just take the racing line. Because
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  Bjergman almost passed him. He almost passed
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  him, actually. Right. On the straight. That's
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  racing. So that's why I'm saying it should be
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  a racing incident. Like... They were racing and
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  Carlos took an aggressive line and was hoping
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  that Esteban, sorry, that Oliver would just get
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  on the brakes. Or he thought he was past him.
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  I don't know. It could be an honest mistake that
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  he thought he was past him. But I just, I don't
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  know. For me, again, seeing it from where we
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  can see it from, kind of looked like from his
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  view. Yeah, you don't see his car at all, but
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  I can't quite see his mirror there. Can he see
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  him in his mirror or not? You know, from the
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  TV pod angle. You know what I mean? I'm not sure,
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  but you can't see any piece of his car from the
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  TV pod at least. Yeah. So I don't know if he
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  just straight up figured he got past him. But
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  for me, Beerman carried a lot of speed coming
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  out of that corner and down the straight. Seeing
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  it again here, I don't know where Beerman is
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  trying to go here because he's not making that
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  turn like that. He's going to keep on pretty
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  much going straight -ish. Which means he's hoping
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  to push signs probably off track on the next
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  turn then. And then he gets the overtake because
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  of that. So signs are just like, no.