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- 0:00Speaker 1: Ayo, it's Riley here.
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- 0:12Speaker 4: My father flew me across the country to meet his
- 0:16Speaker 4: secret second family. Oh, I didn't want to know that.
- 0:19Speaker 4: I'm a female in my mid-20s, originally from California, wrapping
- 0:23Speaker 4: up a summer internship on the East Coast, having the
- 0:25Speaker 4: time of my life. I planned on having one last
- 0:28Speaker 4: adventure in the city during my last weekend before returning
- 0:30Speaker 4: home this Saturday, until my dad decided to fly me
- 0:33Speaker 4: out halfway across the country to visit him where he works. Backstory,
- 0:37Speaker 4: my parents, who've been married for just over 30 years,
- 0:41Speaker 4: are hardworking individuals and have raised us well. Much of
- 0:44Speaker 4: the credit towards achieving the American dream goes to my
- 0:46Speaker 4: mom for flying halfway across the world away from their
- 0:48Speaker 4: native country to land a job in the U.S., where
- 0:51Speaker 4: my dad, 62 male, and two older siblings, who were
- 0:55Speaker 4: toddlers at the time, eventually joined. After years of working
- 0:58Speaker 4: up the corporate ladder, we've been living a comfortable upper
- 1:01Speaker 4: middle class lifestyle in California. Everything looks fine on the outside.
- 1:05Speaker 4: I'm the youngest of three and I'm extremely close to
- 1:08Speaker 4: my dad, primarily because my mom, although very loving, has
- 1:11Speaker 4: the tendency to nag and micromanage like crazy. The sight
- 1:15Speaker 4: of her, my dad says, caused them to grow apart
- 1:17Speaker 4: over the years. Because of this, he was quick to
- 1:19Speaker 4: accept a job offer out of state six years ago.
- 1:22Speaker 4: A couple years before this, my mom suspected him of
- 1:24Speaker 4: infidelity when she saw him first frantically closing out tabs
- 1:28Speaker 4: on the computer when entering their bedroom to the point
- 1:31Speaker 4: of locking the door and demanding he fessed up, to
- 1:33Speaker 4: which he adamantly denied. Since then, they've continued as normal.
- 1:38Speaker 4: There was an incident in 2010 when my sister was
- 1:41Speaker 4: in Vegas and dad was in Phoenix on business. until
- 1:45Speaker 4: she saw him strolling along at Caesar's Palace with a
- 1:48Speaker 4: younger and older woman, presumably the mother. When she confronted
- 1:52Speaker 4: him about it a week later, he vehemently denied anything
- 1:56Speaker 4: was going on and that the woman was just a
- 1:58Speaker 4: friend or co-worker. By the way, this comes from Is
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- 2:06Speaker 4: I'm Savannah. I'm Sophia.
- 2:08Speaker 5: I'm Riley.
- 2:08Speaker 4: And we're here to give some good advice in a
- 2:10Speaker 4: little goofy way. But we don't have all your answers.
- 2:12Speaker 4: We'd only tell you what we would do, but you
- 2:13Speaker 4: should let us know what you would do down in
- 2:15Speaker 4: the comments. Since moving out of state for work, his
- 2:17Speaker 4: weekend visits became so sparse to the point where he
- 2:21Speaker 4: barely comes every month. usually on Saturdays and leaves early
- 2:25Speaker 4: Sunday mornings. Mom is under the impression this is all
- 2:27Speaker 4: temporary and he'll be back permanently in due time, despite
- 2:30Speaker 4: recently accepting another job offer in a different state, much
- 2:33Speaker 4: further away in the middle of the country. Why is
- 2:36Speaker 4: he taking job offers like completely not in state? Who
- 2:39Speaker 4: does that? He wants to not be part of this
- 2:41Speaker 4: family anymore. If I was the wife, I'd be like,
- 2:44Speaker 4: take a job in the state. Stop being so far away.
- 2:48Speaker 4: Sounds like he doesn't like his wife.
- 2:50Speaker 5: Ah, but the money's better out of state.
- 2:53Speaker 4: The money. My other family's better out of state.
- 2:55Speaker 5: It's like universities. They pay more out of state.
- 2:58Speaker 4: He admitted to me that he is much happier with
- 3:01Speaker 4: his freedom, never having to report to her what time
- 3:03Speaker 4: he's coming home, what he's up to, etc. and that
- 3:06Speaker 4: he no longer loves my mom. She waits on him
- 3:09Speaker 4: hand and foot when he actually is around while he
- 3:12Speaker 4: treats her as a roommate. My siblings and I suspected
- 3:15Speaker 4: him of dating other women slash having second families with
- 3:18Speaker 4: them because he was never short on excuses of why
- 3:21Speaker 4: we couldn't just fly up and visit him. why he
- 3:24Speaker 4: couldn't make it to my older sister's wedding, etc. Meanwhile,
- 3:27Speaker 4: my gut feeling all these years have pointed to him
- 3:31Speaker 4: having affairs, but hoping he had stopped while I maintained
- 3:33Speaker 4: distance from involvement. I tend to give him the benefit
- 3:36Speaker 4: of the doubt because of how close we are, but
- 3:38Speaker 4: this weekend took the cake. I assumed I would fly
- 3:41Speaker 4: out to where he resides for work, anticipating a weekend
- 3:44Speaker 4: of bonding time and sightseeing. When we met at the airport,
- 3:47Speaker 4: he said, we're going to meet some friends of mine.
- 3:49Speaker 4: But don't judge. My stomach dropped. Don't judge?
- 3:52Speaker 6: He's like, no, we're going to meet some friends of
- 3:54Speaker 6: mine that look a little like me. Don't worry about it,
- 3:57Speaker 6: don't ask too many questions. I might kiss one of
- 3:59Speaker 6: my friends. Don't worry about it, don't ask too many questions.
- 4:02Speaker 4: I may have to burp and feed a child that
- 4:05Speaker 4: may or may not be mine. Don't ask too many questions.
- 4:09Speaker 4: Just don't judge me. I joked with my fiance days
- 4:12Speaker 4: ago about this, but assumed he wouldn't pull such a
- 4:14Speaker 4: heavy stunt. But there we were, driving to the other
- 4:17Speaker 4: woman's house. I met someone about 50 plus, and we'll
- 4:21Speaker 4: be staying with her. She has three kids, two of
- 4:24Speaker 4: which are teenagers. What the crap? I couldn't stomach this.
- 4:28Speaker 4: And to top it off, I knew I was going
- 4:30Speaker 4: to be forced into being social with a family of
- 4:33Speaker 4: strangers I don't even approve of. I flew into bomb
- 4:36Speaker 4: F Egypt for this. Egypt is kind of cool though. Yeah,
- 4:39Speaker 4: that's kind of fun.
- 4:41Speaker 5: Not back whenever there wasn't much going on.
- 4:43Speaker 4: Yeah, this was pre-pyramids. This was pre-Egypt. This was tens
- 4:47Speaker 4: of thousands of years ago. After the awkward introduction, we
- 4:50Speaker 4: all went out to lunch in the city where there
- 4:53Speaker 4: was continued awkwardness on the way there with forced dialogue. OP,
- 4:56Speaker 4: why are you so quiet? It made me sick hearing
- 5:00Speaker 4: this other woman say crap like, do you need cash
- 5:02Speaker 4: for parking? Are you okay, honey? While walking to the restaurant,
- 5:06Speaker 4: my dad had the nerve to tell me to hold
- 5:08Speaker 4: the 10-year-old girl's hand while we crossed the street. I
- 5:11Speaker 4: pretended not to hear him, but he kept insisting.
- 5:14Speaker 7: F that.
- 5:15Speaker 4: Because who are these dang people? I was even more
- 5:17Speaker 4: annoyed when we were alone at one point, and he
- 5:19Speaker 4: told me to talk more so that they get used
- 5:22Speaker 4: to it.
- 5:22Speaker 7: What?
- 5:23Speaker 5: He's prepping you for something.
- 5:25Speaker 4: So they get used to you, your voice? no thanks
- 5:28Speaker 4: i refused to play the big sister role to a
- 5:30Speaker 4: bunch of strangers whose existence i just discovered an hour
- 5:33Speaker 4: prior and act as if i condone your behavior we
- 5:36Speaker 4: walked to a nearby historical monument where i was forced
- 5:39Speaker 4: to take pictures with this family smile op i found
- 5:43Speaker 4: it weird the way he interacted with the kids like
- 5:46Speaker 4: he was trying too hard to tolerate them as a
- 5:48Speaker 4: way of getting close to their mother the little girl
- 5:50Speaker 4: was trying to point something out at the monument, but
- 5:52Speaker 4: my dad kept brushing her off with, oh, okay, okay, nice,
- 5:55Speaker 4: just to shut her up. When my dad got up
- 5:58Speaker 4: to use the restroom, I asked how they met.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Online!
- 6:01Speaker 4: He was just so funny, and we FaceTimed before the meeting.
- 6:04Speaker 4: It felt so effed up hearing this lady gushing over
- 6:07Speaker 4: my dad, who, by the way, was no longer wearing
- 6:09Speaker 4: his wedding ring. Low-key shocked that OP's not immediately just like,
- 6:12Speaker 4: not that she should have to, but I don't know
- 6:15Speaker 4: how I would hold that in, you know? I'd start screaming. Yeah,
- 6:18Speaker 4: I'd be immediately- You met him online?
- 6:20Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 6:21Speaker 4: He's married! I'd immediately be like, he's married, he's married,
- 6:24Speaker 4: my dad is married. I would say, do you know
- 6:26Speaker 4: how I fit in this equation? Yeah, do you know
- 6:28Speaker 4: who I am? Do you know who I actually am?
- 6:30Speaker 5: Do you know how we met?
- 6:31Speaker 4: Who do you think I am? I mean, I'm sure
- 6:34Speaker 4: he introduced them as, this is my daughter. What do
- 6:36Speaker 4: you think's going on here? We went back to the
- 6:38Speaker 4: house with the intent to rest before dinner and I
- 6:40Speaker 4: was told I'd be staying in the little girl's room.
- 6:42Speaker 4: Thinking I'd finally have a private moment to myself, I
- 6:45Speaker 4: walked in only to see that the girl wasn't going
- 6:47Speaker 4: to leave. She sat in a chair in the corner
- 6:49Speaker 4: playing games on a phone while I was expected to
- 6:52Speaker 4: nap slash rest in her presence. I stepped outside to
- 6:55Speaker 4: have a panicked phone call with my fiance about all
- 6:57Speaker 4: the awkwardness before mustering up the courage to talk to
- 6:59Speaker 4: my dad. When I came back inside, I heard my
- 7:02Speaker 4: dad call my name and followed his voice down the hallway,
- 7:05Speaker 4: only to enter the bedroom of the other woman where
- 7:07Speaker 4: I saw them lying beside one another. Is everything okay?
- 7:11Speaker 4: Take a nap before we go out to dinner. Yeah, no. Dad,
- 7:16Speaker 4: can I have a word with you real quick? I
- 7:18Speaker 4: took him outside and told him how shocked I was
- 7:20Speaker 4: being brought out here to encounter something I so strongly
- 7:23Speaker 4: disapprove of, and his only reactions were to nod, tell
- 7:26Speaker 4: me he understands, and say okay. We'll leave early tomorrow
- 7:29Speaker 4: morning then before the flight home. He went back to
- 7:32Speaker 4: the room to nap, but I felt like I was
- 7:34Speaker 4: brushed off.
- 7:35Speaker 5: Just like the little girl. Also, he wasn't napping.
- 7:37Speaker 4: What were they doing in there?
- 7:38Speaker 5: Clapping.
- 7:39Speaker 4: Oh, no.
- 7:41Speaker 1: Oh, man.
- 7:42Speaker 4: I needed an exit plan quick and neither Lyft nor
- 7:45Speaker 4: Uber operate in the city. No, it's bomb F Egypt.
- 7:48Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 7:49Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:49Speaker 5: Middle of nowhere.
- 7:50Speaker 4: Middle of nowhere Egypt. There's only pyramids here. We have
- 7:53Speaker 4: no other form of transportation. Maybe a camel. But those
- 7:56Speaker 4: are also scarce. yes i managed to find a cheap
- 7:59Speaker 4: hotel deal for one night close to the airport and
- 8:02Speaker 4: a taxi app hoping the cab came quickly enough for
- 8:04Speaker 4: me to sneak out just as it pulled up to
- 8:06Speaker 4: the house i grabbed my stuff tiptoed to the front
- 8:08Speaker 4: door thinking i was clear and heard the lady from
- 8:10Speaker 4: the kitchen say is everything okay yeah this was great
- 8:13Speaker 4: but i gotta go i sit in the back of
- 8:15Speaker 4: the cab and just as i was about to pull
- 8:18Speaker 4: up the address to the hotel cab driver told me
- 8:20Speaker 4: to look up and i see my dad eyes bloodshot
- 8:23Speaker 4: stifling Tears. Where are you going? Why are you leaving?
- 8:27Speaker 4: When I told him the situation made me uncomfortable to
- 8:29Speaker 4: the point of getting a hotel room, he apologized to
- 8:31Speaker 4: the cab driver and paid in cash, insisting he would
- 8:33Speaker 4: take me instead. When we had a moment in the driveway,
- 8:35Speaker 4: I echoed my previous sentiments of not wanting to be
- 8:38Speaker 4: culpable in this mess. Yeah, we should have gotten you
- 8:41Speaker 4: a hotel room in the first place. Uh, no, you
- 8:44Speaker 4: should have never brought me out here, ever. I know
- 8:46Speaker 4: you'd be shocked, but I was hoping you'd understand. What
- 8:49Speaker 4: the F?
- 8:50Speaker 6: So this woman can't be married to him because you're... Yeah, no.
- 8:54Speaker 6: I was like, unless she's in a different country, I
- 8:55Speaker 6: don't know.
- 8:55Speaker 5: So how long have they been doing this for?
- 8:57Speaker 4: Well, yeah, because this is just like his girlfriend and
- 8:59Speaker 4: they have a whole, they have children. I mean, there's
- 9:02Speaker 4: a 10 year old.
- 9:02Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 9:03Speaker 4: I don't know if that's his or not.
- 9:05Speaker 6: He just convinced her to be like chill. I mean,
- 9:08Speaker 6: maybe she'd never wanted to get married, but.
- 9:10Speaker 4: He was extremely apologetic on the drive to the hotel
- 9:13Speaker 4: saying he ruined my weekend. Oh man, I'm sorry I
- 9:16Speaker 4: ruined your weekend. No, you ruined my life, dad. After
- 9:18Speaker 4: he walked me into my room, we had a serious
- 9:20Speaker 4: talk and I told him he needs to fix this
- 9:22Speaker 4: before crap really hits the fan. I insisted they continue
- 9:26Speaker 4: with their dinner reservation without me, and he told me
- 9:28Speaker 4: that it was for me and that they would no
- 9:31Speaker 4: longer be going. He ended the conversation with, it would
- 9:34Speaker 4: make me really happy to see you and have dinner
- 9:36Speaker 4: with you tonight. It's up to you. Text me regardless
- 9:38Speaker 4: of what you choose. Come 7 p.m., I was torn. Girl,
- 9:40Speaker 4: you should have.
- 9:41Speaker 7: Gotten that cab.
- 9:42Speaker 5: You should have went back. You should have went in
- 9:43Speaker 5: that cab.
- 9:44Speaker 4: Let's go. Let's go. Like, why aren't we immediately calling mom, saying, hey, mom?
- 9:48Speaker 4: You should divorce your husband.
- 9:49Speaker 5: Hey mom, fun news.
- 9:51Speaker 6: Yeah, this shit's in. Divorce him. Let your mom divorce
- 9:55Speaker 6: this guy.
- 9:55Speaker 4: Come 7 p.m., I was torn between even seeing him
- 9:59Speaker 4: again or going across the street to TGI Fridays for
- 10:02Speaker 4: Buffalo Wings. But I wanted to give him another chance.
- 10:05Speaker 4: I told him I would like to have dinner with
- 10:06Speaker 4: you if and only if it is only you and me.
- 10:10Speaker 4: Assuming he'd pick me up for a father-daughter dinner date.
- 10:13Speaker 4: He said, I will bring you noodle stir fry, honey.
- 10:16Speaker 4: I chilled in my hotel room waiting and waiting and
- 10:19Speaker 4: telling my two older siblings about this ordeal who were
- 10:22Speaker 4: concerned with my safety and well-being. After about two hours,
- 10:25Speaker 4: I told him not to come by anymore and that
- 10:27Speaker 4: I'd take care of myself. But I have food for you.
- 10:28Speaker 4: Do you want me to bring it? Cancel your order. Okay, fine.
- 10:31Speaker 4: Feeling guilty of rejecting him, I waited another hour, 10,
- 10:34Speaker 4: 15 p.m., And he finally came by with what looked
- 10:38Speaker 4: to be leftovers or takeout. I was angry at myself
- 10:41Speaker 4: for being so forgiving when I was merely an afterthought
- 10:44Speaker 4: while he was out treating his other family. The following morning,
- 10:47Speaker 4: when he dropped me off at the airport, he said,
- 10:49Speaker 4: I'm sorry this trip did not meet your expectations. Well,
- 10:51Speaker 4: no crap. You dropped a huge bomb on me.
- 10:54Speaker 6: I'm sorry learning that I've been cheating on your mother
- 10:57Speaker 6: and leading a whole double life didn't pan out for
- 11:00Speaker 6: us this weekend.
- 11:01Speaker 4: Here's the problem. My mom has no idea any of
- 11:03Speaker 4: this is going on. I fly back home in California.
- 11:07Speaker 4: this Saturday. My dad plans on flying in too. I
- 11:09Speaker 4: was under the impression this would be the weekend he'd
- 11:11Speaker 4: fess up, but he volunteered to help my older brother
- 11:14Speaker 4: and his wife and baby move into their new apartment.
- 11:16Speaker 4: My guess is he plans on coming clean to the
- 11:18Speaker 4: family later in the weekend, if at all. My older
- 11:21Speaker 4: siblings want to break the news to my mom either
- 11:23Speaker 4: Friday or Saturday. likely before I arrive since my flight
- 11:27Speaker 4: lands later afternoon. I'm grappling between even telling her because
- 11:30Speaker 4: I'm trying to keep my distance from their marriage, but
- 11:33Speaker 4: I feel it became my business from having involuntarily witnessed
- 11:36Speaker 4: evidence of the affair firsthand. I mean, you don't even
- 11:39Speaker 4: have to tell her. You can let your siblings tell her.
- 11:41Speaker 4: They'll do it. Just let them do that.
- 11:43Speaker 6: If it's stressing you out and your siblings are chill
- 11:46Speaker 6: with doing it before you even arrive, just do it
- 11:48Speaker 6: that way.
- 11:48Speaker 4: You don't owe your dad anything. It's true. He's a
- 11:50Speaker 4: little cheater.
- 11:52Speaker 5: You should just win the cab. I don't know why
- 11:53Speaker 5: you backed out of it.
- 11:54Speaker 4: Should have gotten that cab to LAX. Well, she saw
- 11:58Speaker 4: her dad crying. I would... Don't care. I don't know.
- 12:01Speaker 4: If I saw my dad crying, I'd be like, okay, maybe.
- 12:03Speaker 5: If I saw my dad cheating, I'd be like, what
- 12:06Speaker 5: are you doing?
- 12:07Speaker 4: That is also true. If I saw my dad cheating
- 12:09Speaker 4: and then crying, I'd be like.
- 12:10Speaker 5: Not only cheating, having a second family.
- 12:13Speaker 4: Second family, I'd be like, ew.
- 12:14Speaker 8: Ew.
- 12:16Speaker 9: Cab home.
- 12:17Speaker 5: I'm done here.
- 12:18Speaker 1: True, true.
- 12:19Speaker 5: Or for me, I'd be getting a horse and getting
- 12:21Speaker 5: out of town.
- 12:22Speaker 4: The fact that my mom can be a highly volatile
- 12:25Speaker 4: person and my potential absence to help handle this as
- 12:29Speaker 4: a family makes me uneasy and almost not looking forward
- 12:32Speaker 4: to coming home. On top of all this, I begin
- 12:35Speaker 4: school next Monday. So the worst is still yet to
- 12:38Speaker 4: come because my mom's reaction will be scary. Our rationale
- 12:42Speaker 4: is that it would be better to brief mom on this.
- 12:45Speaker 4: To not only save ourselves from potential backlash, if you knew,
- 12:48Speaker 4: why didn't you tell me? But so that she doesn't
- 12:50Speaker 4: feel completely alone in all this. If they knew and
- 12:53Speaker 4: didn't tell me, who else could I trust? My siblings
- 12:56Speaker 4: have villainized the other woman, but I can't help but
- 12:59Speaker 4: feel horrible for her. She thinks she is dating an
- 13:01Speaker 4: honest man who is divorced and good to her children.
- 13:04Speaker 4: and seems excited to finally meet me because my dad
- 13:07Speaker 4: often boasts about me. I can't rid myself of the guilt,
- 13:10Speaker 4: plus feeling like I betrayed my dad's trust, despite him
- 13:13Speaker 4: betraying the trust of the entire family. I'm really sorry
- 13:16Speaker 4: this was long, but I'm panicking and I need insight.
- 13:18Speaker 4: What is the best way to approach this while minimizing damage?
- 13:21Speaker 4: What I really fear is my mom's volatility and her
- 13:25Speaker 4: taking it out on us, especially me. Have you been
- 13:27Speaker 4: a witness and not telling her immediately?
- 13:30Speaker 6: I think you need to tell your mom. And I
- 13:34Speaker 6: think you seem pretty stressed.
- 13:36Speaker 4: How old is Opie again?
- 13:37Speaker 5: About to start college again.
- 13:39Speaker 1: So college age.
- 13:40Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 13:40Speaker 6: I would say have your siblings tell her ASAP and
- 13:43Speaker 6: say you didn't, you know, if she's like, why didn't
- 13:45Speaker 6: you tell me?
- 13:45Speaker 4: You're like, I didn't know. I just found out. We
- 13:48Speaker 4: told you immediately.
- 13:49Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 13:49Speaker 4: The thing is, if this were to happen, like in
- 13:51Speaker 4: my family and like my dad were to like, you know,
- 13:54Speaker 4: cheat on my mom or something, immediately telling my mom. Yeah. Yeah. I,
- 13:58Speaker 4: that's just like, yeah, I don't think, don't wait.
- 14:00Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 14:01Speaker 4: I'm like, why live in like ignorant bliss? No, it's,
- 14:04Speaker 4: you know, she's not even in bliss.
- 14:05Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 14:06Speaker 4: Literally marriage already. Why just live in ignorance? Yeah.
- 14:09Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 14:10Speaker 4: Have your siblings tell her there's an update here. Mom
- 14:12Speaker 4: quit her high paying job to invest herself in a
- 14:15Speaker 4: business while I was away for the summer. Even before this,
- 14:18Speaker 4: my dad has always been in charge of most of
- 14:19Speaker 4: the finance while mom has been stashing away in savings.
- 14:23Speaker 4: He pays the cars, mortgage, et cetera. Older sister spoke
- 14:27Speaker 4: to dad a couple of days ago and his words were,
- 14:29Speaker 4: you know how your mom will react if she ever
- 14:31Speaker 4: disrespects me. I will stop paying the mortgage, the cars,
- 14:34Speaker 4: the phone bill. And if you say something, I will
- 14:36Speaker 4: disown you and never come back.
- 14:38Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
- 14:39Speaker 4: The hero of this story. He said, you know how
- 14:42Speaker 4: your mom will react. She sucks. Also, I'm going to
- 14:45Speaker 4: disown you if you tell her. Like what? Why do
- 14:48Speaker 4: we all have to be complicit in your scheme? Yeah.
- 14:51Speaker 4: For real. If someone said that to me. Yeah. Like
- 14:54Speaker 4: if you tell her, I'm going to disown you. I'd
- 14:56Speaker 4: be like, oh, okay.
- 14:57Speaker 6: Then I'm telling your new wife that you're cheating on her.
- 15:01Speaker 6: Either way, you're going to get found out, buddy.
- 15:04Speaker 4: Oh no, I can blow up your life too.
- 15:06Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 15:07Speaker 4: Watch out. Literally. Mutual destruction. It's like you have any
- 15:10Speaker 4: leverage on OP or any of the siblings. You're the
- 15:12Speaker 4: one in the wrong. Yeah, like OP can end both
- 15:15Speaker 4: of your marriages. You basically already disowned us when you
- 15:18Speaker 4: started cheating. So, oh no, he's going to do the
- 15:21Speaker 4: same thing that he's been doing all these years. Oh no.
- 15:24Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 15:25Speaker 4: What a threat. As if that's any different than what's
- 15:27Speaker 4: going on now. Before telling her, I already hate that
- 15:30Speaker 4: this is being stalled. We are going to seek legal
- 15:32Speaker 4: advice in order to protect my mom the best way possible.
- 15:35Speaker 4: In the heat of the moment, it's easy to want
- 15:37Speaker 4: to spill the beans, but that will result in very
- 15:39Speaker 4: dire financial consequences for mom. And that's the end.
- 15:43Speaker 2: Ang!
- 15:44Speaker 4: You know what?
- 15:45Speaker 6: I think that's the only reason I would hold off
- 15:47Speaker 6: is knowing how mom would react and wanting to safeguard
- 15:50Speaker 6: her first.
- 15:51Speaker 5: Yeah, be there for her.
- 15:52Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 15:53Speaker 5: That's smart.
- 15:54Speaker 1: And that's the end of the story. We're going to
- 15:55Speaker 1: read the next one.
- 15:57Speaker 4: My grandmother promised her piano to me and my sister,
- 16:00Speaker 4: but I'm the musician. Only I get the piano. My
- 16:03Speaker 4: grandmother is about to move into assisted living. Because of this,
- 16:06Speaker 4: she is getting rid of most of her stuff from
- 16:09Speaker 4: her current home. My sister, 23 female, and I, 25
- 16:13Speaker 4: female to male, get first choice on many of the
- 16:16Speaker 4: things my grandmother is getting rid of. My grandmother owns
- 16:18Speaker 4: a piano that used to be her mother's. It is
- 16:20Speaker 4: something my family has cherished for a long time. I
- 16:23Speaker 4: am a musician, and when I started going to school
- 16:25Speaker 4: for a music degree, my grandmother promised me that she
- 16:28Speaker 4: would give me the piano. either when she passed or
- 16:31Speaker 4: when she moved into assisted living. Last week, I found
- 16:34Speaker 4: out that she had also promised the piano to my
- 16:36Speaker 4: sister a while back. This wasn't malicious or intentional on
- 16:40Speaker 4: my grandmother's part. Her memory is no longer the best,
- 16:42Speaker 4: and she did not realize she had promised it to
- 16:44Speaker 4: both of us. By the way, this comes from Death6Boy.
- 16:48Speaker 4: And if you want to submit your own stories, go
- 16:50Speaker 4: to the r slash okay story time subreddit on Savannah.
- 16:53Speaker 4: I'm Sophia.
- 16:54Speaker 9: I'm Keon.
- 16:54Speaker 4: And we are here to talk about some stuff, give
- 16:57Speaker 4: some advice, but we don't have all of the answers.
- 16:59Speaker 4: We're only going to tell you what we would do,
- 17:01Speaker 4: but let us know what you would do down in
- 17:03Speaker 4: your comments. My sister and I are now trying to
- 17:06Speaker 4: figure out who gets the piano. My sister argues that
- 17:08Speaker 4: she should get the piano because she has a long-term
- 17:10Speaker 4: partner and they want their future kids to learn to
- 17:13Speaker 4: play the piano on my grandmother's piano. I argue that
- 17:16Speaker 4: I should get the piano because I'm the only one
- 17:18Speaker 4: who is actually a musician, so I would already be
- 17:20Speaker 4: using it long before my sister and her partner have children.
- 17:23Speaker 4: My mother says I shouldn't want the piano because I
- 17:25Speaker 4: am a vegan and the piano has ivory, therefore making
- 17:29Speaker 4: me a bad vegan if I keep the piano. My
- 17:31Speaker 4: response to that would be I didn't buy this extremely
- 17:34Speaker 4: old piano and it is a family heirloom that means
- 17:36Speaker 4: a lot to me. We haven't brought this dilemma up
- 17:39Speaker 4: to my grandmother because she has declared that if we
- 17:41Speaker 4: cannot decide who gets something of hers... She will sell
- 17:44Speaker 4: it without question and no one in my family wants
- 17:46Speaker 4: this piano to be sold. It feels like my family
- 17:49Speaker 4: is on my sister's side and they think I am
- 17:51Speaker 4: being selfish for wanting this piano even though I am
- 17:53Speaker 4: realistically the person who would use it the most. So
- 17:57Speaker 4: am I the a-hole for wanting this precious family heirloom?
- 18:00Speaker 5: Update!
- 18:00Speaker 4: I talked to my grandmother about the situation. Originally my
- 18:03Speaker 4: sister and I kept it between ourselves because my grandmother
- 18:06Speaker 4: promised to sell any item we argued over. However, I
- 18:08Speaker 4: wanted my grandmother's insight. My grandmother felt guilty about accidentally
- 18:12Speaker 4: promising the piano to both me and my sister. We
- 18:14Speaker 4: discussed the pros and cons of me keeping the piano
- 18:16Speaker 4: or giving it to my sister. In the end, we
- 18:18Speaker 4: decided it would be best if my sister kept it
- 18:22Speaker 4: because the piano hasn't been maintained very well and my
- 18:25Speaker 4: sister mostly wants it because of its sentimental value. That
- 18:28Speaker 4: was what I was wondering. Makes sense. Yeah, maybe it's
- 18:31Speaker 4: just so old it doesn't really play well. It's probably
- 18:33Speaker 4: out of tune. Probably super out of tune. I mean,
- 18:36Speaker 4: you could get that tuned. Yes, you can. But sometimes
- 18:40Speaker 4: it's like so not well taken care of. Oh, that
- 18:44Speaker 4: it's a, well, if you need, yeah, I guess if
- 18:46Speaker 4: it's really, really old, like you get like those weird keys.
- 18:49Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 18:49Speaker 4: And whatnot. Like I have, my mom bought me an upright.
- 18:53Speaker 4: I mean, we have the upright, which is not tuned
- 18:54Speaker 4: at all. Yeah.
- 18:55Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 18:56Speaker 4: And she like, she got it from a frigging garage sale.
- 18:59Speaker 4: We got it from the street.
- 19:00Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 19:01Speaker 4: Like we got it from down the street, which is
- 19:03Speaker 4: so cool. That's, That's crazy.
- 19:05Speaker 6: Well, most people just don't sell pianos because it's so
- 19:07Speaker 6: hard to transport them.
- 19:08Speaker 4: It's true. And plus, when you transport them, you have
- 19:10Speaker 4: to tune them again as soon as you transport them
- 19:12Speaker 4: because they're so fragile.
- 19:14Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 19:14Speaker 4: Like anything, any movement, like literally just moving one like
- 19:17Speaker 4: side to side could bring it out of tune. That's
- 19:19Speaker 4: why people are like, once you put them in, you
- 19:21Speaker 4: don't move them.
- 19:22Speaker 6: It is a bummer, though, because I totally get the
- 19:24Speaker 6: desire to want a free piano.
- 19:26Speaker 4: Because I'm going to want a piano. I'm also going
- 19:28Speaker 4: to want a piano in my house. My grandmother told
- 19:31Speaker 4: me that if I let my sister keep the piano,
- 19:33Speaker 4: she would buy me a piano that is in better condition.
- 19:35Speaker 4: I am beyond grateful for this. Opie's like, I am
- 19:38Speaker 4: good with that.
- 19:39Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 19:40Speaker 9: Take the piano.
- 19:41Speaker 6: I'd be like, I am taking that deal. And she
- 19:44Speaker 6: just goes back to the sister and she's like, you're right.
- 19:46Speaker 4: You're right. I do want you to have this piano.
- 19:48Speaker 4: I'm guessing this all worked out. out then. I don't
- 19:50Speaker 4: know what else.
- 19:51Speaker 9: All is well.
- 19:52Speaker 4: What other problem? No, that was, you handled that well.
- 19:55Speaker 4: Let's see. My grandmother decided to talk to a friend
- 19:58Speaker 4: about this situation and they informed her that they have
- 20:00Speaker 4: a piano that they are trying to get rid of.
- 20:03Speaker 4: and the piano is in good condition. My grandmother said
- 20:05Speaker 4: she will pay for the cost of the piano as
- 20:07Speaker 4: well as the cost of moving the piano. I offered
- 20:09Speaker 4: to pay myself, but my grandmother said that she has
- 20:11Speaker 4: the money and doesn't mind paying, and to consider it
- 20:14Speaker 4: an apology for starting an argument between me and my sister. Overall,
- 20:18Speaker 4: this turned out a lot better than I expected. My
- 20:21Speaker 4: sister and I both get a piano, and a family
- 20:24Speaker 4: heirloom gets to stay in the family. Thanks for all
- 20:27Speaker 4: the advice on the original post. That went really well.
- 20:30Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 20:30Speaker 4: Good work. We never find those stories.
- 20:32Speaker 9: Sounds like music to my ears.
- 20:34Speaker 1: And that's the end of this story. We're going to
- 20:36Speaker 1: read the next one.
- 20:37Speaker 4: My husband ran our home like a boot camp, so
- 20:40Speaker 4: I stepped in.
- 20:41Speaker 7: Ooh, tan hut.
- 20:43Speaker 6: My husband is a former military officer who left the
- 20:45Speaker 6: military after 10 years of service and went into civilian work.
- 20:49Speaker 6: My husband had previously expressed an interest in early exposure
- 20:52Speaker 6: to physical fitness and military training for our son to
- 20:55Speaker 6: better prepare him for life, but I said I wasn't
- 20:58Speaker 6: ready for that. My husband, for his credit, wanted to
- 21:00Speaker 6: start as early as eight for his credit, but I
- 21:03Speaker 6: convinced him to wait until he was a little older
- 21:05Speaker 6: so he had more time to grow. But I still
- 21:07Speaker 6: think 12 is way too early. While I have no
- 21:09Speaker 6: problem with the military, I had a problem with regimenting
- 21:12Speaker 6: our son so much. I was raised in a fairly
- 21:14Speaker 6: free-flowing household, and my parents never really exacted that much
- 21:18Speaker 6: regiment or schedule or structure in our lives and let
- 21:21Speaker 6: us do stuff within reason. My parents were hippies, and
- 21:23Speaker 6: his father was a career military officer.
- 21:26Speaker 4: And family was military. By the way, this comes from
- 21:28Speaker 4: son training program. And if you want to submit your
- 21:30Speaker 4: own stories, go to the r slash okay story time subreddit.
- 21:33Speaker 4: I'm Sophia. I'm Savannah.
- 21:34Speaker 9: I'm Keon.
- 21:35Speaker 6: And we're here to give good advice goofily, but we
- 21:37Speaker 6: don't have all the answers. We only know what we'd do.
- 21:39Speaker 6: So let us know what you would do in the comments.
- 21:41Speaker 6: My husband has my son on an exercise, nutrition, and
- 21:45Speaker 6: firearms training program he came up with. My son no
- 21:48Speaker 6: longer has any free time outside of school, schoolwork, and
- 21:51Speaker 6: these programs. And my husband only allows him to see
- 21:53Speaker 6: his friends or have breaks on Sundays. He no longer
- 21:56Speaker 6: does any clubs at school or sees his friends any
- 21:59Speaker 6: other times than once a week on Sundays. My husband
- 22:01Speaker 6: picks him up at school every day. Brings him home,
- 22:04Speaker 6: sits about the dinner table where he does his schoolwork,
- 22:06Speaker 6: does an hour of exercise before eating, getting 30 minutes
- 22:08Speaker 6: of TV or computer games.
- 22:10Speaker 4: And then bed.
- 22:11Speaker 6: My husband makes him do 45 minutes of calisthenics and
- 22:14Speaker 6: running in the mornings too. My son is up at
- 22:16Speaker 6: 5 a.m. every day to run with his dad and
- 22:19Speaker 6: is in bed every night by 9 p.m.
- 22:21Speaker 4: The latest.
- 22:22Speaker 6: Saturdays, my husband takes him to the firing range where
- 22:25Speaker 6: he instructs him. I tried to tell my husband to
- 22:27Speaker 6: wait until my son was older. especially for the firearms
- 22:30Speaker 6: but my husband basically said no and took him anyway
- 22:32Speaker 6: i don't think it's healthy for a 12 year old
- 22:34Speaker 6: to be so regimented or exposed to pew pews but
- 22:37Speaker 6: i don't know how to bring up my concerns with
- 22:39Speaker 6: my husband my son complains a little bit about the
- 22:42Speaker 6: exercise and the wake up lights out time but seems
- 22:45Speaker 6: fine with everything else is this healthy for my son
- 22:47Speaker 6: do i try and do anything I tried talking with
- 22:49Speaker 6: my husband about it, but he shut me out and
- 22:51Speaker 6: said it's for his own good and his son needs
- 22:53Speaker 6: to be ready to face the world and its problems.
- 22:56Speaker 6: And I don't know how to effectively bring up my
- 22:58Speaker 6: concerns about it. Oh boy, we got an update, folks.
- 23:01Speaker 6: I mean, do you feel like you can't bring it up? Like,
- 23:03Speaker 6: is he going to like do something? You know, is
- 23:05Speaker 6: he going to be like, all right, son, sicker.
- 23:08Speaker 4: Like, has he secretly been plotting against you or something? Like,
- 23:11Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 23:12Speaker 7: I don't know.
- 23:13Speaker 6: Like, the fact that y'all clearly have super different views
- 23:17Speaker 6: on how to parent your child, and yet you have
- 23:19Speaker 6: no say? Update, I talked to my husband about some
- 23:22Speaker 6: of the things mentioned. The first thing I said was
- 23:24Speaker 6: that it probably wasn't a good idea to take him
- 23:26Speaker 6: out of all his extracurriculars. I also said if it
- 23:28Speaker 6: was possible for him to join JROTC and get both
- 23:32Speaker 6: the social exposure and the things he wanted for my son.
- 23:34Speaker 6: My husband said that he was definitely going to tell
- 23:37Speaker 6: my son about JROTC and see when he's.
- 23:39Speaker 7: Old enough that he can join.
- 23:39Speaker 4: Apparently, you need to be in the ninth grade for
- 23:41Speaker 4: JROTC at the minimum. Well, I mean, that's also crazy, but.
- 23:44Speaker 6: At least even the JROTC realizes maybe we shouldn't put.
- 23:47Speaker 4: 12-year-olds in the middle. Yeah, that's good.
- 23:51Speaker 6: And my son isn't in the ninth grade for another
- 23:53Speaker 6: two years. He's doing a summer school type program right
- 23:56Speaker 6: now so he can take some better classes next year
- 23:58Speaker 6: and will be in the seventh grade this school year.
- 24:00Speaker 6: My husband agreed to relax on the physical stuff from
- 24:02Speaker 6: five days a week to three and letting him sleep
- 24:05Speaker 6: in on Tuesday and Thursday before school and letting him
- 24:07Speaker 6: have extracurriculars back on those days.
- 24:10Speaker 4: Awesome.
- 24:10Speaker 6: At least we've got a little bit back. Our son
- 24:12Speaker 6: used to be part of an electronics club on campus
- 24:15Speaker 6: that met on those days.
- 24:16Speaker 4: So he'll be back to that.
- 24:17Speaker 6: My husband also agreed to let him do what he
- 24:19Speaker 6: wants on those days with his free time after finishing
- 24:21Speaker 6: his homework and dinner. I talked to her son at
- 24:23Speaker 6: the same time if he had any thoughts, and he
- 24:24Speaker 6: said he liked being with hubby and didn't really mind
- 24:27Speaker 6: spending the time and learning from him. And he was
- 24:29Speaker 6: really interested in doing the JROTC thing when he was
- 24:31Speaker 6: in 9th grade. I talked to both of them about
- 24:33Speaker 6: Saturdays and maybe asked if on a purely financial perspective,
- 24:36Speaker 6: ammunition is expensive, if they could cut back one or
- 24:39Speaker 6: two weekends a month, and they said sure. My husband
- 24:41Speaker 6: said that son could do what he wants on Saturdays
- 24:43Speaker 6: and Sundays as long as he's home before 9pm. This
- 24:46Speaker 6: does seem like a good conference.
- 24:47Speaker 4: I think so, too. I think maybe he didn't realize
- 24:50Speaker 4: that he was going too hard on him. And, you know,
- 24:52Speaker 4: he's not like the son is insane. Yeah. You know, hey, dad,
- 24:55Speaker 4: maybe this is a lot, you know, because he wants
- 24:58Speaker 4: to impress his dad. And also that's how they bond.
- 25:01Speaker 8: That's, you know, pretty sure any time he talks up,
- 25:04Speaker 8: the dad will take it as like or he will
- 25:06Speaker 8: take it as like him talking back.
- 25:07Speaker 6: Yeah that's what i was worried about i do appreciate
- 25:09Speaker 6: that he's listened and he's i i think saturday sunday
- 25:12Speaker 6: reasonable i think he's got more free time i don't
- 25:15Speaker 6: think it's a bad thing for him to say like
- 25:17Speaker 6: let's do some workouts but stuff.
- 25:19Speaker 4: Like i think 12 year olds should exercise.
- 25:21Speaker 6: I talked to her son alone if he had any
- 25:23Speaker 6: thoughts about what he wanted to maybe do when he
- 25:24Speaker 6: was older to see inside his head and he said
- 25:26Speaker 6: that he liked the idea of serving but he really
- 25:28Speaker 6: likes engineering and computers my husband exposed him to that
- 25:32Speaker 6: too i guess My husband does a lot of DIY
- 25:34Speaker 6: stuff around our house and little projects here and there
- 25:36Speaker 6: if he has free time. He said that maybe he
- 25:38Speaker 6: liked the idea of working with the Army Corps of
- 25:40Speaker 6: Engineers in the future or maybe trying to find volunteering
- 25:43Speaker 6: around that. I mentioned that to my husband and he
- 25:45Speaker 6: said he'd see if he could do something near us
- 25:46Speaker 6: with them. I guess they did a presentation as part
- 25:48Speaker 6: of his summer school program and he liked what they
- 25:51Speaker 6: talked about and about university and schooling. He definitely wants
- 25:54Speaker 6: to go to university, so that's good. All in all,
- 25:56Speaker 6: my husband was reasonable. Met me on what I said
- 25:58Speaker 6: and my son seemed happy with what we came up
- 26:00Speaker 6: with and talked about.
- 26:01Speaker 4: All right, that's positive. Yeah, that's positive. So I think
- 26:04Speaker 4: all in all, it was just let's communicate on what
- 26:06Speaker 4: we want instead of just having you kind of run
- 26:09Speaker 4: the household like a base camp. Yeah, that's too much,
- 26:12Speaker 4: especially for a kid.
- 26:13Speaker 6: Yeah, I hope because I think there could come a
- 26:16Speaker 6: day where this kid is not 12 because I remember
- 26:18Speaker 6: when I was 12 and I wanted to be a
- 26:19Speaker 6: veterinarian and that was all I wanted to do. And
- 26:22Speaker 6: if my parents had been like, you have to be
- 26:24Speaker 6: a veterinarian, you can't be an actor, that would kind
- 26:27Speaker 6: of push me away from them. So I hope that
- 26:29Speaker 6: There doesn't come a time where this kid is like,
- 26:31Speaker 6: I want to do something else.
- 26:32Speaker 1: And that's the end of this story. We're going to
- 26:34Speaker 1: read the next one.
- 26:35Speaker 4: My mother-in-law's family talked behind her back, so I exposed them.
- 26:39Speaker 6: Hey, say it to my face. So recently, I had
- 26:42Speaker 6: to defend my mother-in-law against her own siblings. My in-laws
- 26:45Speaker 6: just celebrated a big milestone in their marriage. They've been
- 26:48Speaker 6: together for 35 years. They threw a little anniversary party
- 26:52Speaker 6: and invited all their siblings. My father-in-law only has two
- 26:55Speaker 6: sisters and his mother, and my mother-in-law has 10 brothers
- 26:58Speaker 6: and sisters.
- 26:58Speaker 4: She invited all of them to come, and they did.
- 27:01Speaker 6: Maybe two or three of them didn't come because some
- 27:04Speaker 6: are sick or have since passed. While we were all
- 27:06Speaker 6: sitting there, my mother-in-law got up to change my son's
- 27:09Speaker 6: diaper inside the house. We were all outside in the backyard.
- 27:12Speaker 6: I don't think they realized that I understood Spanish and
- 27:14Speaker 6: spoke it and wrote it. I'm Mexican-American and I have
- 27:17Speaker 6: very much European features. I do have a bit of
- 27:19Speaker 6: indigenous in me, but with the way I styled my
- 27:22Speaker 6: hair and my makeup, I don't look African. By the way,
- 27:23Speaker 6: this comes from HistoricalLeave775, and if you want to submit
- 27:27Speaker 6: your own stories, go to the r slash OKStoryTime subreddit.
- 27:30Speaker 4: I'm Sophia. I'm Savannah.
- 27:32Speaker 9: I'm Keon.
- 27:32Speaker 6: And we're here to give good advice goofily, but we
- 27:34Speaker 6: don't have all the answers. We only know what we'd do.
- 27:37Speaker 6: So let us know what you would do in the comments.
- 27:38Speaker 6: Once she got up and they confirmed that she was inside,
- 27:41Speaker 6: they started talking bad about her.
- 27:43Speaker 4: I started to get upset.
- 27:44Speaker 6: They were speaking about how she is as a mother,
- 27:46Speaker 6: a grandmother.
- 27:48Speaker 4: And a mother-in-law.
- 27:49Speaker 6: I turned to my husband and I texted him what
- 27:51Speaker 6: was going on. He and his father said that it
- 27:52Speaker 6: was okay for me to say something, which I did.
- 27:55Speaker 6: Once I started speaking in Spanish, they were stunned. And
- 27:58Speaker 6: they pretty much realized they had just dug themselves into
- 28:01Speaker 6: their own grave. My brother-in-law had been hearing everything as
- 28:05Speaker 6: well and they were okay with me saying something. Until
- 28:07Speaker 6: my mother-in-law came out and realized they were all trying
- 28:10Speaker 6: to fight with me. At this point, I felt like
- 28:12Speaker 6: they had all burnt their own brain cells just trying
- 28:14Speaker 6: to argue with me. Nothing was working and I was
- 28:17Speaker 6: winning that battle. My mother-in-law said that she could have
- 28:19Speaker 6: handled it if we had just told her. we all
- 28:21Speaker 6: know that if we had allowed her to handle it
- 28:23Speaker 6: she would have allowed them to all run her over
- 28:25Speaker 6: she never defends herself now i'm starting to feel like
- 28:28Speaker 6: maybe i should have just allowed her to handle it
- 28:30Speaker 6: since they're siblings so am i the a-hole no.
- 28:32Speaker 4: You stood up for something that you believe in you're
- 28:35Speaker 4: never the a-hole yeah but no yeah unless it's like
- 28:38Speaker 4: something that's not good yeah yeah i understand that.
- 28:41Speaker 6: Doing something terrible but i think you got permission from
- 28:44Speaker 6: brother-in-law yeah they're.
- 28:45Speaker 4: Talking crap and you got the permission and they're like
- 28:48Speaker 4: yeah get them get them they said sicker yeah get
- 28:52Speaker 4: on them and opie did and i think that's it
- 28:55Speaker 4: sounds like your mother-in-law was you know it's kind of
- 28:57Speaker 4: a thing of like hey you know like you don't
- 28:59Speaker 4: have to do that appreciate it you don't have to
- 29:01Speaker 4: though i have a bit of an update and i
- 29:02Speaker 4: also want to speak about how our little family dynamic
- 29:04Speaker 4: works i have not fully met my husband's family and
- 29:07Speaker 4: i really haven't had a chance to sit there and
- 29:09Speaker 4: speak to.
- 29:09Speaker 6: Them these last couple of years nor does my mother-in-law
- 29:12Speaker 6: really speak too much to her sisters or brothers. This
- 29:15Speaker 6: last get-together was the first time they actually came to
- 29:18Speaker 6: celebrate anything for her, because they all live outside of
- 29:21Speaker 6: the country, and it's very expensive and hard to get
- 29:23Speaker 6: a visa to enter into the U.S.
- 29:25Speaker 4: From Mexico. Did her partner, like, know that this was happening? Like,
- 29:28Speaker 4: because it seems like, you know, like, he's like, oh, yeah, like,
- 29:31Speaker 4: you can say something. They were all in the room.
- 29:34Speaker 4: I don't know why. Yeah, why they weren't saying anything.
- 29:36Speaker 4: That's why I think it's, like, kind of weird, and
- 29:38Speaker 4: I think that they didn't want to be the bad
- 29:41Speaker 4: guys and they were fine with op being the bad
- 29:44Speaker 4: guy yeah that is super weird you're definitely not the
- 29:46Speaker 4: a-hole i thought of here an icu.
- 29:50Speaker 6: Perhaps i don't know But we got a little bit left.
- 29:53Speaker 6: My mother-in-law is only in contact with maybe two of
- 29:56Speaker 6: her sisters. That day they didn't come because, like I said,
- 29:59Speaker 6: everything's very expensive right now to travel. So yes, I
- 30:01Speaker 6: have not met all of my husband's aunts and uncles.
- 30:04Speaker 6: I do not have them on Facebook. I don't allow
- 30:06Speaker 6: my mother-in-law to post anything about me on Facebook. And
- 30:08Speaker 6: I've asked her to refrain from speaking about me to
- 30:11Speaker 6: her family just with the knowledge of them being so
- 30:13Speaker 6: cruel to her.
- 30:14Speaker 4: Low-key, a lot.
- 30:15Speaker 6: The Facebook thing, sure. But to be like, don't even
- 30:17Speaker 6: tell your family about me. I don't even want them
- 30:20Speaker 6: to know anything about me. I don't want them to
- 30:21Speaker 6: know I exist.
- 30:22Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. This is weird.
- 30:24Speaker 6: And honestly, they didn't even know I was married to
- 30:26Speaker 6: her nephew. That's how bad they don't know each other anymore.
- 30:28Speaker 6: I mean, is that because you said don't tell them
- 30:30Speaker 6: about me or because... I don't know.
- 30:32Speaker 9: It's just a family disconnect. Who knows?
- 30:33Speaker 6: They were truly surprised that he was married to somebody.
- 30:36Speaker 6: And honestly, they were very surprised that we also have
- 30:38Speaker 6: a child.
- 30:39Speaker 2: Dang.
- 30:39Speaker 6: Because like I said, he had not spoken to them
- 30:41Speaker 6: in over 10 years. They had no clue who I was.
- 30:45Speaker 4: That's it. Well, that seems like a whole separate issue.
- 30:47Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 30:48Speaker 8: Maybe.
- 30:48Speaker 4: I don't know. Just maybe next time you talk crap,
- 30:52Speaker 4: you don't do it where you don't want anyone to
- 30:54Speaker 4: hear it.
- 30:54Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 30:55Speaker 1: Truthfully.
- 30:56Speaker 9: Speak it in your own language. Make your own language
- 30:59Speaker 9: to talk crap in.
- 30:59Speaker 4: Speak it in your own language. Like a little bat
- 31:02Speaker 4: of an eyelash. Little, what is this? Eyebrows up. Little oink.
- 31:08Speaker 1: And that's the end of this story. We're going to
- 31:09Speaker 1: read the next one.
- 31:10Speaker 3: Hey, this is Riley, the new Californian here. We're going
- 31:13Speaker 3: to get back to these stories, but here's three minutes
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- 31:17Speaker 6: My husband and mother confessed their affair and asked me.
- 31:20Speaker 4: To accept it.
- 31:21Speaker 6: Your who? I, 21 female, have been married to my husband,
- 31:24Speaker 6: 33 male, for a year and three months now. My mother,
- 31:27Speaker 6: 40 female, has always had a soft spot for him,
- 31:31Speaker 6: which I appreciated. When she first met him, she told
- 31:33Speaker 6: me I was so lucky to have an amazing person
- 31:36Speaker 6: in my life. The two of them always got along fine,
- 31:38Speaker 6: which I figured was just from their closeness and age. However,
- 31:42Speaker 6: during our wedding, I noticed weird behavior from her. On
- 31:45Speaker 6: my wedding day, she told me she wished she was
- 31:47Speaker 6: the one in the gown, referring to my dress. When
- 31:49Speaker 6: I asked what she meant, she just laughed and said,
- 31:52Speaker 6: She'd had too much to drink. She also suggested she
- 31:55Speaker 6: and my husband have a dance together. I laugh because
- 31:58Speaker 6: I thought it was a joke, but given everything that's happened,
- 32:01Speaker 6: it clearly wasn't. Further down the line, she started asking
- 32:04Speaker 6: me overly personal, inappropriate questions about my marriage. I told
- 32:08Speaker 6: her I wasn't comfortable. And she said my aunt was curious.
- 32:11Speaker 6: She also began asking my husband strange, invasive questions that
- 32:15Speaker 6: made me uncomfortable. My suspicion grew over the last three months.
- 32:19Speaker 6: My husband told me my mom had asked him to
- 32:21Speaker 6: renovate her kitchen as he works in construction and that
- 32:24Speaker 6: he'd be there after work Monday through Wednesday. When I
- 32:27Speaker 6: offered to join him, he said it would be boring
- 32:28Speaker 6: for me. When I asked my mom if I should come, she.
- 32:31Speaker 4: Said I was being a nagging wife for asking.
- 32:33Speaker 6: By the way, this comes from Nikki1296, and if you
- 32:36Speaker 6: want to submit your own stories, go to the r
- 32:38Speaker 6: slash showcase story time subreddit.
- 32:39Speaker 4: I'm Sophia.
- 32:40Speaker 7: I'm Dakota.
- 32:41Speaker 9: I'm Keon.
- 32:42Speaker 4: And we're here to give.
- 32:43Speaker 6: Some good advice, goofily, and if you've got advice, put
- 32:45Speaker 6: it down below. But we got more story. After he
- 32:48Speaker 6: started visiting, he was never interested in spending time with
- 32:51Speaker 6: me when he got home. My suspicions grew further when
- 32:53Speaker 6: I visited my mom's place and the kitchen looked exactly
- 32:57Speaker 6: the same as before. When I confronted them, they said
- 32:59Speaker 6: they were still just prepping. In that moment, I knew
- 33:02Speaker 6: something was wrong. I left work early one day and
- 33:04Speaker 6: went by my mom's place to see what was happening.
- 33:07Speaker 6: Her place has a lot of windows and you can
- 33:08Speaker 6: see nearly every room if you wander around. When I
- 33:11Speaker 6: got to the study's window, that's when I saw my
- 33:14Speaker 6: husband and mother together. I screamed and cried. When they
- 33:17Speaker 6: saw me, my mom looked down in disbelief while my
- 33:20Speaker 6: husband ran out of the room.
- 33:21Speaker 9: Your mom was screaming and crying, too.
- 33:23Speaker 4: Oh, no. Okay, hon. That's terrible. And it's, I mean,
- 33:29Speaker 4: it's probably right.
- 33:30Speaker 9: Am I wrong?
- 33:31Speaker 10: Yes, you are wrong, because her terrible husband is a
- 33:35Speaker 10: bad lover.
- 33:36Speaker 6: I ran to my car and drove off, hyperventilating. When
- 33:39Speaker 6: I got home, I packed some clothes and essentials, then
- 33:42Speaker 6: drove to an empty car park and sat there for
- 33:44Speaker 6: over four hours, just crying. I eventually returned home, waiting
- 33:48Speaker 6: to confront him, but he wasn't there, and there was
- 33:50Speaker 6: no sign he had been. I figured he'd stay somewhere
- 33:53Speaker 6: to give me space. When I woke up, I wasn't
- 33:56Speaker 6: ready to talk to him, so I called my aunt instead.
- 33:58Speaker 6: She told me he stayed at my mother's house to
- 34:00Speaker 6: be there for her. My mouth dropped and I couldn't
- 34:03Speaker 6: say a word. I asked if she could set up
- 34:05Speaker 6: a meeting with me, my husband, and my mother, and
- 34:08Speaker 6: she said she'd take me there. In the car, my
- 34:10Speaker 6: aunt admitted my mother had told her about the affair
- 34:13Speaker 6: and that she told her to stop. My mother lied
- 34:15Speaker 6: and said she had then yesterday, right after I caught them,
- 34:19Speaker 6: confessed everything. she'd still been seeing him i told my
- 34:22Speaker 6: aunt i was disappointed she hadn't told me and that
- 34:24Speaker 6: she'd lost my trust she seemed to understand when we
- 34:27Speaker 6: got to the house my husband had his arm around
- 34:29Speaker 6: my mother he's like well we've been caught so it
- 34:32Speaker 6: actually doesn't.
- 34:32Speaker 10: Matter anymore now it's real I'm not exaggerating when I
- 34:36Speaker 10: say I would spend the rest of my life making
- 34:38Speaker 10: sure these people never, ever live in comfort.
- 34:41Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm never seeing them ever again. Keep in mind,
- 34:44Speaker 6: I'd caught them a day before. My mother started crying
- 34:47Speaker 6: the moment she saw me and hugged him, which only
- 34:50Speaker 6: aggravated me. To keep this short, they told me.
- 34:52Speaker 4: They wanted to be together and hoped one.
- 34:54Speaker 6: Day I'd accept them. I couldn't feel anything, so I
- 34:57Speaker 6: just started laughing in shock. Even my aunt told my
- 35:00Speaker 6: mom she was being ridiculous. They claimed they'd been in
- 35:02Speaker 6: love for a year.
- 35:04Speaker 7: You've been together for a year and three months.
- 35:06Speaker 9: Yeah, let's do some math here.
- 35:07Speaker 4: So three months after your wedding, they fell in love.
- 35:09Speaker 4: Why did he marry you?
- 35:11Speaker 7: Like the rest of my life will be spent.
- 35:14Speaker 10: Making sure these two people are miserable. And I never
- 35:18Speaker 10: think that that's a good idea. That's the only thing you.
- 35:20Speaker 3: Can do here though.
- 35:22Speaker 6: And that my mother could see herself starting a family
- 35:24Speaker 6: with him. I sat in silence while my mom pleaded
- 35:26Speaker 6: with me to say something.
- 35:28Speaker 4: I couldn't.
- 35:28Speaker 6: I asked my aunt to take me home and she
- 35:31Speaker 6: got me out of the car immediately. As soon as
- 35:34Speaker 6: I got in the car, I started bawling. She offered
- 35:36Speaker 6: to let me stay with her, but I just wanted
- 35:38Speaker 6: to be alone. It's been a week and I've been
- 35:40Speaker 6: home alone. My mother and I have always had problems
- 35:43Speaker 6: and she's always blamed me for my father's passing. So
- 35:46Speaker 6: in a way, I think this is her way of
- 35:48Speaker 6: getting back at me. In what way would you?
- 35:50Speaker 7: How?
- 35:51Speaker 4: How?
- 35:51Speaker 7: Pushed him in front of a train.
- 35:53Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh, he pushed him in front of a train.
- 35:55Speaker 6: I'm honestly not sure what's next for me. My husband
- 35:57Speaker 6: and I had agreed I'd be a stay-at-home mom, which
- 36:00Speaker 6: is what I wanted. I'm not great with legal matters
- 36:02Speaker 6: and have no idea what to do from here, so
- 36:04Speaker 6: any advice on that would be great. I'm sorry this
- 36:07Speaker 6: is so long. I would never have turned to social
- 36:09Speaker 6: media in the past, but I didn't have anyone else
- 36:11Speaker 6: to turn to. Any advice or thoughts would be appreciated.
- 36:14Speaker 6: And we have an update five days later, but what
- 36:16Speaker 6: do you think?
- 36:17Speaker 10: I think the coyote piss super soaker is the apex
- 36:21Speaker 10: of my advice for you, honestly. Just spray that on
- 36:24Speaker 10: their car, spray that on the door, spray it on
- 36:27Speaker 10: the porch, spray it in the back.
- 36:29Speaker 7: Spray it in the front.
- 36:30Speaker 4: Spray it on a train.
- 36:31Speaker 10: And do it in a way where you can't get
- 36:32Speaker 10: caught because it probably isn't legal.
- 36:35Speaker 9: I don't know.
- 36:35Speaker 8: My first step is go to the men in black.
- 36:37Speaker 8: Be like, hey, erase my brain because I can't comprehend this.
- 36:41Speaker 9: This is too much.
- 36:42Speaker 7: Eternal sunshine.
- 36:43Speaker 6: A bit more context first. I don't fully trust my aunt.
- 36:46Speaker 6: She and my mom are extremely close and have only
- 36:49Speaker 6: ever really had each other, so she'll always put my
- 36:51Speaker 6: mom's interests first. She also has a lot on her plate,
- 36:54Speaker 6: so staying with her was never really an option. I'm
- 36:56Speaker 6: not going to college just for the sake of it.
- 36:59Speaker 6: I want to be a mom, but I'll look for
- 37:00Speaker 6: a job in the meantime since the flower shop won't
- 37:03Speaker 6: be sustainable. I think I've actually lost that job since
- 37:06Speaker 6: I haven't shown up for three shifts and have been
- 37:08Speaker 6: dodging their calls. Well, pick up the call. Pick up
- 37:11Speaker 6: the call and tell them what's going on and say
- 37:13Speaker 6: you need a second.
- 37:14Speaker 7: Get a bullhorn or an air horn, pick up the call,
- 37:17Speaker 7: and go.
- 37:20Speaker 5: Right into the mouthpiece.
- 37:22Speaker 4: Now to the update.
- 37:23Speaker 6: The night after I posted here, my husband came banging
- 37:26Speaker 6: on our door crying, saying he'd made a mistake. He
- 37:29Speaker 6: insisted my mother had been blackmailing him into being with her,
- 37:32Speaker 6: that it was only supposed to be a hookup, and
- 37:34Speaker 6: that he instantly regretted it. He showed me text where
- 37:37Speaker 6: she told him to come over, threatening to tell me
- 37:39Speaker 6: about the affair if he refused.
- 37:40Speaker 7: He went, no, no, don't do that.
- 37:41Speaker 6: He said she was threatening to tell you about the
- 37:43Speaker 6: affair that we were having if I didn't come over
- 37:45Speaker 6: all the time and have the affair that she was
- 37:47Speaker 6: threatening to tell you about.
- 37:49Speaker 9: She was going to twist my arm.
- 37:50Speaker 4: Oh, no. But you were already having the affair, buddy.
- 37:53Speaker 6: He said he wanted us to be together again and
- 37:55Speaker 6: that he'd do anything. I told him I needed space
- 37:58Speaker 6: and that he needed to leave. He got upset and
- 38:00Speaker 6: I started to feel uneasy, so I called his friend
- 38:03Speaker 6: who came and took him back to his place to
- 38:04Speaker 6: calm down. The next morning, I woke up to him
- 38:07Speaker 6: cooking my favorite breakfast in our kitchen. He said he
- 38:09Speaker 6: wanted to surprise me with something he knew I loved.
- 38:12Speaker 6: I told him I appreciated it, but he needed to leave,
- 38:14Speaker 6: and that.
- 38:15Speaker 4: If I were to forgive him, it would take a
- 38:17Speaker 4: long time.
- 38:18Speaker 6: He started crying and trying to manipulate me, so I
- 38:21Speaker 6: told him to get out, pushed him out, and locked
- 38:23Speaker 6: the door. Later that day, my mother came and screamed
- 38:26Speaker 6: outside my door that she knew my.
- 38:28Speaker 4: Husband was there, and that I was keeping them apart.
- 38:31Speaker 6: I told her to leave, or I'd call the cops,
- 38:34Speaker 6: and she did. A couple hours later, she came back
- 38:36Speaker 6: and tried to get in, but the moment she heard
- 38:38Speaker 6: me on the phone with the police, she drove off.
- 38:40Speaker 6: I started to feel unsafe and I didn't have anywhere
- 38:43Speaker 6: to go so I grabbed some clothes and I've been
- 38:45Speaker 6: living in my car since. It's been sustainable for a
- 38:48Speaker 6: day or so but obviously I can't do this forever.
- 38:51Speaker 6: My husband messaged saying he'd come by the house and
- 38:53Speaker 6: was worried I hadn't returned. I told him he shouldn't
- 38:56Speaker 6: be there but that I was staying in my car
- 38:58Speaker 6: until I figured out what I wanted. He sent crying
- 39:00Speaker 6: voice messages saying I was torturing myself and that if
- 39:04Speaker 6: we were together he'd take care of me. I haven't
- 39:06Speaker 6: replied directly but I sent him a quick I'm okay,
- 39:09Speaker 6: every few hours, so he doesn't completely panic. My aunt
- 39:12Speaker 6: hasn't really contacted me since I cried in her car,
- 39:15Speaker 6: but as I said, she has a lot on her plate.
- 39:17Speaker 4: That's the update.
- 39:18Speaker 6: I'm in a car with no real direction, but thank
- 39:20Speaker 6: you for all the legal advice. I have a doctor's
- 39:22Speaker 6: appointment tomorrow, so fingers crossed.
- 39:25Speaker 4: Comment one.
- 39:26Speaker 6: Sorry you're going through this. Sounds impossible to get through,
- 39:28Speaker 6: but it will make you stronger.
- 39:30Speaker 4: Get a lawyer. Get counseling. Seek out support. OP says....
- 39:36Speaker 6: Very Americanized. She rejected her family's traditional expectations years ago,
- 39:41Speaker 6: and they've never really gotten along since. Reply says, I'd
- 39:44Speaker 6: tell her entire family. Play nice with your husband, get
- 39:47Speaker 6: the text messages, and forward them to everyone. LOL says OP,
- 39:50Speaker 6: they wouldn't care at this point. They already think she's
- 39:53Speaker 6: a floozy, and they don't even like me.
- 39:54Speaker 4: Haha.
- 39:55Speaker 6: And we do have a second update six days later.
- 39:58Speaker 6: I wonder if they don't like you because they think
- 40:00Speaker 6: that you're like your mom.
- 40:01Speaker 7: That could be.
- 40:03Speaker 4: And maybe we could tell them, hey guys.
- 40:05Speaker 10: on a very real level, bro, get out, leave every
- 40:09Speaker 10: single person that you've ever known behind.
- 40:12Speaker 7: You need to start completely over.
- 40:15Speaker 10: It's not an exaggeration that that's one of the craziest
- 40:19Speaker 10: things that could probably ever happen to anybody on a
- 40:22Speaker 10: like person to person relationship level. You're 12 years older
- 40:27Speaker 10: than you husband starts having an affair with your 40
- 40:30Speaker 10: year old mom that gave birth to you when she
- 40:32Speaker 10: was 18. And like now she's at your door screaming
- 40:36Speaker 10: that you're keeping him from her. Like just move as
- 40:40Speaker 10: far away as possible and start a brand new existence.
- 40:43Speaker 10: And it'll be the most liberating thing ever. I agree.
- 40:46Speaker 6: I'm glad to say I'm not in a car anymore
- 40:48Speaker 6: and I'm now living in a women's shelter. An hour
- 40:50Speaker 6: after my last update, a man started following my car.
- 40:53Speaker 4: Scary.
- 40:53Speaker 6: Weaving in and out of no through roads behind me
- 40:56Speaker 6: for about 35 to 40 minutes. It scared me, so
- 41:00Speaker 6: I followed your advice and went to a shelter. I
- 41:02Speaker 6: explained I didn't feel safe at home because my husband
- 41:05Speaker 6: and mother had both been pestering me. The staff were
- 41:08Speaker 6: really nurturing and settling me in, and a lot of
- 41:10Speaker 6: the women introduced themselves. I've never been in such a
- 41:13Speaker 6: supportive environment. It might sound strange to say about a shelter,
- 41:17Speaker 6: but I don't want to leave. I've made a lot
- 41:18Speaker 6: of friends in the last few days and feel genuine.
- 41:21Speaker 6: I made one really good friend who's the exact same
- 41:24Speaker 6: age as me, and we've even talked about finding a
- 41:26Speaker 6: place to live together, which has made me excited. I've
- 41:28Speaker 6: met a lot of people from different backgrounds and situations
- 41:31Speaker 6: that have really opened my world. As for my husband,
- 41:34Speaker 6: he recently sent a text that made me certain I
- 41:37Speaker 6: never want to see him again. He said some really
- 41:40Speaker 6: cruel things, then admitted he'd been seeing other women the
- 41:43Speaker 6: whole time and that they provided more for him than
- 41:46Speaker 6: I ever could. I simply told him to go ruin
- 41:49Speaker 6: one of their lives instead. I won't act tough. I
- 41:52Speaker 6: feel completely hurt and manipulated.
- 41:54Speaker 4: I really thought we had something special.
- 41:56Speaker 6: The friends I've made at the shelter were there for
- 41:58Speaker 6: me through it. My mom recently posted a photo of
- 42:00Speaker 6: herself with a caption, love hurts. I replied with laughing
- 42:03Speaker 6: emojis since it's clear she's looking for attention and sympathy.
- 42:06Speaker 6: She messaged back saying she was allowed to mourn her
- 42:09Speaker 6: relationship and that I couldn't make a sacrifice for her happiness.
- 42:13Speaker 6: I sent the laughing emoji again. She then posted our
- 42:15Speaker 6: interaction on her story with a quote about kids hurting
- 42:18Speaker 6: their parents. So I blocked her. My aunt has gone
- 42:21Speaker 6: radio silent too. I tried to message her that I
- 42:23Speaker 6: was in a shelter in case she was worried, but
- 42:25Speaker 6: before I could even tell her, she said she couldn't
- 42:28Speaker 6: talk because she was at brunch and never followed up.
- 42:31Speaker 6: I also reached out to my grandma in Tennessee on
- 42:33Speaker 6: my dad's side. I hadn't seen her since I was 15,
- 42:36Speaker 6: but I asked if I could stay and explained my situation.
- 42:39Speaker 6: She said I could come for a week, but after
- 42:41Speaker 6: that I'd be on my own since she already had
- 42:42Speaker 6: a full house. Anyway, that's the update. I'm in the
- 42:45Speaker 6: shelter and planning to find a place with my friend.
- 42:47Speaker 6: I'll figure out the legal side soon. Thank you all
- 42:50Speaker 6: so much for reading and I'll update if anything significant happens.
- 42:53Speaker 6: Significant things are happening six days later.
- 42:55Speaker 7: Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy,
- 42:57Speaker 7: oh boy.
- 42:57Speaker 4: Let's keep going.
- 42:58Speaker 2: Yay.
- 42:58Speaker 4: So this will be my final update.
- 43:00Speaker 10: Boo.
- 43:01Speaker 4: As I think the situation has finally come to an end. Yay.
- 43:04Speaker 6: And I'm in a really good place. I left off
- 43:06Speaker 6: in the shelter with a lot of friends. The girl
- 43:08Speaker 6: I was going to move in with ended up going
- 43:10Speaker 6: back home, so I was stuck again until I got
- 43:12Speaker 6: a message from my grandma. Her mother, my great-grandma, needed
- 43:15Speaker 6: someone to take care of her, and her brother would
- 43:17Speaker 6: be happy to have me stay as long as I helped.
- 43:20Speaker 6: I had nothing to lose, so I took it. I
- 43:22Speaker 6: arrived in Miami three days ago, and I've been loving it.
- 43:25Speaker 6: I never really knew my dad's side. He wasn't close
- 43:28Speaker 6: with his family, and after he passed, it was hard
- 43:30Speaker 6: to stay in contact. My great uncle and his wife
- 43:33Speaker 6: are very nice and they live in a lovely part
- 43:35Speaker 6: of Miami near the beach. I hadn't seen my great
- 43:37Speaker 6: grandma in over 10 years and she was so happy when.
- 43:41Speaker 4: She saw me. She mostly speaks Spanish.
- 43:43Speaker 6: I'll admit I said my dad was white earlier because
- 43:46Speaker 6: I was scared of my identity being revealed. And that
- 43:48Speaker 6: wasn't entirely true. My father was Cuban, born and raised
- 43:51Speaker 6: in Miami. My great-grandma's been teaching me Spanish, and with
- 43:55Speaker 6: my great-uncle translating, she's been sharing stories about my dad.
- 43:58Speaker 6: She told me how he'd fall asleep on her lap
- 44:00Speaker 6: at family gatherings and make everyone laugh, imitating her accent.
- 44:03Speaker 6: Seeing old photos of him as a kid made me
- 44:05Speaker 6: tear up. My mom never had a relationship with him,
- 44:07Speaker 6: which was her choice, even though they'd wanted to meet her.
- 44:10Speaker 6: They told me they weren't shocked by what happened, because
- 44:13Speaker 6: my dad had once said my mom would be unfaithful
- 44:16Speaker 6: to him. That made me furious. since my mom always
- 44:19Speaker 6: claimed my dad was her soulmate. I haven't heard from
- 44:22Speaker 6: my mom, but my cousin's wedding went ahead yesterday. My
- 44:25Speaker 6: aunt posted it on Facebook and my mom was there
- 44:28Speaker 6: looking completely fine in the photos. There is still no
- 44:31Speaker 6: word from my ex-husband, but his sister sent me a
- 44:33Speaker 6: text apologizing on behalf of herself and his parents.
- 44:36Speaker 4: So that's the end.
- 44:38Speaker 6: I'm in a really good place taking care of my
- 44:40Speaker 6: great grandma. And I'll work out what I want next
- 44:42Speaker 6: in the meantime. This will most likely and hopefully be
- 44:45Speaker 6: the final update.
- 44:46Speaker 2: Wow.
- 44:47Speaker 6: I mean, like, I am really impressed by how, like,
- 44:51Speaker 6: quick OP, you know, got out of the house, got safe,
- 44:55Speaker 6: you know, in a shelter, and then contacted grandma and
- 44:58Speaker 6: got to, you know, Miami.
- 45:00Speaker 4: You know, good job.
- 45:00Speaker 8: It was probably one of the most traumatic things we've
- 45:03Speaker 8: ever read.
- 45:04Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
- 45:05Speaker 8: Not one of the most, but it's going to stick
- 45:07Speaker 8: with me for a while.
- 45:08Speaker 7: One of the most shocking.
- 45:09Speaker 8: Yeah, that one, it's like, holy cow.
- 45:13Speaker 1: And that's the end of this story. We're going to
- 45:14Speaker 1: read the next one.
- 45:16Speaker 10: My grandmother gave me the cold shoulder over a mudroom renovation.
- 45:22Speaker 7: Hi everybody!
- 45:23Speaker 10: So I, 21 female, and my husband, 24 male, and
- 45:26Speaker 10: our son, 7 months, are taking over my family's farmhouse.
- 45:31Speaker 10: It was my great-great-grandparents, my great-grandma Mary, and then my
- 45:35Speaker 10: mother Hillary's.
- 45:37Speaker 7: And now it's mine.
- 45:38Speaker 10: My grandma Colleen, 65 female, was raised there by her grandparents.
- 45:44Speaker 10: and it has been a very special thing for our family.
- 45:47Speaker 10: We agreed to renovate the property because of long-term neglect
- 45:51Speaker 10: from my mother and great-grandmother, Hillary and Mary. Well, during
- 45:54Speaker 10: this process, we've had to demo out some things, and
- 45:58Speaker 10: there are certain features we do not want to keep
- 46:00Speaker 10: because we're either putting an updated version in or replacing
- 46:04Speaker 10: it entirely. Well, my grandmother, Colleen, has been nothing short
- 46:09Speaker 10: of judgmental over every decision we make.
- 46:12Speaker 4: I think that's super fair.
- 46:14Speaker 6: The house that you have this super emotional attachment to
- 46:17Speaker 6: because you grew up in it and your mother grew
- 46:19Speaker 6: up in it and then you raised your, you know,
- 46:22Speaker 6: like it's, of course it's going to have a sentimental
- 46:26Speaker 6: value to you.
- 46:27Speaker 4: I think they could be a little bit more understanding.
- 46:29Speaker 5: Yes.
- 46:29Speaker 10: My thing that I think is still unclear at this
- 46:32Speaker 10: point is you say we're taking over the house. It
- 46:35Speaker 10: doesn't sound like these people are moving out though.
- 46:38Speaker 4: Do they still live there?
- 46:39Speaker 7: I think these people are all going to still live here.
- 46:41Speaker 2: Ooh.
- 46:42Speaker 10: The kitchen cabinet colors, the paint colors, what we're keeping
- 46:46Speaker 10: and not keeping, etc. And it's about almost every decision
- 46:49Speaker 10: we make. Mind you, we're trying to make this house
- 46:51Speaker 10: work for us and our family, as is the point
- 46:55Speaker 10: of a home. I grew up next door to this
- 46:57Speaker 10: farmhouse and love it just as much.
- 46:59Speaker 7: As she does.
- 47:00Speaker 10: By the way, this comes from Toasty Cauliflower.
- 47:03Speaker 7: If you want to submit your own stories, go to
- 47:05Speaker 7: our subreddit. I'm Dakota.
- 47:07Speaker 4: I'm Sophia.
- 47:08Speaker 9: And I'm Keon.
- 47:09Speaker 10: Well, we're here to read this story and you're here
- 47:11Speaker 10: to comment what you think about it.
- 47:12Speaker 7: Just keep the salt ready, baby, because nobody knows everything.
- 47:15Speaker 10: The reason I'm now choosing to post about this is
- 47:19Speaker 10: because she's in tears, giving me the cold shoulder and
- 47:22Speaker 10: intentionally puts music on in the car to keep me
- 47:25Speaker 10: from talking to her. My husband is in the middle
- 47:27Speaker 10: of demoing out the laundry room and mudroom. In the
- 47:31Speaker 10: mudroom slash hallway, there's this really old shelf and hooks.
- 47:35Speaker 7: That's it.
- 47:36Speaker 10: I plan to put mudroom built-ins there. But for now,
- 47:39Speaker 10: we want a clean slate so we.
- 47:41Speaker 7: Have a better idea of the space we're working with.
- 47:43Speaker 10: That said, my husband called and verified that we were
- 47:46Speaker 10: removing the shelves and hooks, and my grandma, who was
- 47:48Speaker 10: in the car with me, got very upset and started crying,
- 47:51Speaker 10: talking about how that's where her grandpa would keep his
- 47:54Speaker 10: jacket with his hat, etc., And I understand why she's sentimental,
- 47:57Speaker 10: but it's not as if I can't use those hooks
- 48:00Speaker 10: after the new built-ins are put in. Yeah, you don't
- 48:03Speaker 10: get it.
- 48:03Speaker 4: I don't think you get it at all.
- 48:05Speaker 7: You get 0% of this.
- 48:07Speaker 6: Your grandmother seemingly has tried to be involved in this
- 48:12Speaker 6: house renovation, and you kind of have ignored everything she said.
- 48:15Speaker 6: And then she's upset because this house that she loves
- 48:19Speaker 6: is changing.
- 48:19Speaker 9: And grew up in. And you're like, whatever.
- 48:21Speaker 4: You can still have them. I'll give you a little
- 48:23Speaker 4: box full of hooks. I don't know. I just feel
- 48:25Speaker 4: like there's not a level of empathy here.
- 48:27Speaker 9: Zero. I don't think OP has zero idea. Anyway.
- 48:31Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 48:32Speaker 10: Now I'm starting to feel guilty. But at the same time,
- 48:34Speaker 10: she's not the one living there anymore. I'm trying to
- 48:37Speaker 10: make improvements for what is going to work for my
- 48:39Speaker 10: growing family.
- 48:40Speaker 7: Am I the a-hole? And there is an update.
- 48:43Speaker 4: I really just.
- 48:44Speaker 6: Need more information about how the house got handed to OP.
- 48:48Speaker 4: That's what I need to know.
- 48:49Speaker 10: I mean, if she's not going to be living there,
- 48:50Speaker 10: that is fair. But at the same time, bro, if
- 48:55Speaker 10: there was a shelf in my house where it's like, yeah,
- 48:57Speaker 10: my great Yeah. I guess after your son is like older,
- 49:02Speaker 10: it'd be his great, great, great grandfather like used that.
- 49:06Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 49:07Speaker 10: Because it was the grandma's great grandfather. So it's OP's great, great.
- 49:11Speaker 10: And it'd be the little kid's great, great, great.
- 49:13Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 49:13Speaker 10: It's like, dude, my great, great, great grandfather used these hooks.
- 49:18Speaker 4: I will cherish them.
- 49:19Speaker 2: I always.
- 49:20Speaker 7: It's cool.
- 49:21Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's really cool.
- 49:22Speaker 6: It feels a little bit like when people buy these incredibly.
- 49:27Speaker 4: cool historic houses.
- 49:29Speaker 6: And just completely and then just yeah completely renovated to
- 49:32Speaker 6: make it like modern and it ends up being really
- 49:35Speaker 6: ugly and tacky and yeah you know run of the
- 49:38Speaker 6: mill and there's no actual character left in it yeah
- 49:40Speaker 6: i'm wondering what he's actually.
- 49:42Speaker 10: Changing it to update me and my grandma had a
- 49:45Speaker 10: real talk the day after i posted and we agreed
- 49:48Speaker 10: to use the hooks in the new mudroom built-ins i
- 49:51Speaker 10: liked the idea and she said that would make her
- 49:53Speaker 10: feel better And there was a comment that had a
- 49:55Speaker 10: really good point. My son will be hanging his jacket
- 49:58Speaker 10: and hat in the same place as his great-great-great-grandpa. And
- 50:03Speaker 10: that truly speaks to my heart. I knew my great-great-grandparents.
- 50:07Speaker 10: They were both pissed away when I was very young, though.
- 50:10Speaker 10: I miss them both very much, but I'm hoping to
- 50:12Speaker 10: make them proud. I asked my great-grandma, their daughter, if
- 50:16Speaker 10: she thinks they would like what I was doing. And
- 50:19Speaker 10: she said she believes my great-great-grandpa especially would love it.
- 50:23Speaker 10: My great-great-grandma actually would have been a fan of a
- 50:25Speaker 10: white Pinterest.
- 50:26Speaker 7: Kitchen, according to Grandma Mary. That said, I am taking the.
- 50:29Speaker 10: Old shelf that was above the hooks to a woodcarver
- 50:32Speaker 10: and having him carve or woodburn a picture of my
- 50:35Speaker 10: great-great-grandparents into it and make a frame out of that
- 50:38Speaker 10: wood as a gift to my grandma, my mom's mom.
- 50:41Speaker 7: You should maybe, did you ask her?
- 50:42Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 50:43Speaker 7: If she would love that or hate that.
- 50:44Speaker 10: I originally was going to use the old paneling in
- 50:47Speaker 10: the dining room only to find out it was a
- 50:49Speaker 10: stick and peel style panel. Anyways, thank you all for
- 50:53Speaker 10: your amazing advice and suggestions. I feel much less alone.
- 50:57Speaker 10: My grandma, my mom's mom, laughed at the comment section
- 51:00Speaker 10: and proceeded to tell me in her words, it's not
- 51:03Speaker 10: that deep.
- 51:03Speaker 4: I mean, you were telling us she was crying.
- 51:06Speaker 7: It still feels like you don't get it.
- 51:08Speaker 4: You don't get it.
- 51:08Speaker 10: You're like, oh, it's not that deep to me. So
- 51:11Speaker 10: it makes sense. It wouldn't be that deep to anyone.
- 51:13Speaker 10: And anyone who doesn't feel this way is an idiot.
- 51:15Speaker 8: I have zero sentimental value to it. Oh, well, like
- 51:18Speaker 8: your grandmother's like, yeah, I carved my name in there.
- 51:20Speaker 8: And then my mother and then her mother carved her
- 51:23Speaker 8: name in there.
- 51:24Speaker 9: You should do that. You know, no, paint it white.
- 51:26Speaker 1: And that's the end of this story. We're going to
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- 51:37Speaker 4: My mother secretly got my brother a job at the
- 51:40Speaker 4: pool where I work.
- 51:41Speaker 7: Oh, the more the merrier.
- 51:43Speaker 4: For context, I, 19 female, have been working at one
- 51:47Speaker 4: of the two neighborhood outside pool as a lifeguard for
- 51:50Speaker 4: three summers. My brother, 16 male, finished taking his lifeguarding
- 51:54Speaker 4: classes about four months ago. Since then, I've been telling
- 51:57Speaker 4: him to apply to different pools which he did not do.
- 52:01Speaker 4: Throughout these months, I've had at least 15 conversations with
- 52:04Speaker 4: him telling him that he needs to be applying if
- 52:07Speaker 4: he wants to get a job this summer. Mind you,
- 52:09Speaker 4: he's almost 17 in a month, and I started working
- 52:13Speaker 4: at freshly 15, but our parents have always had different
- 52:16Speaker 4: standards for us because he has ADHD. A month ago,
- 52:19Speaker 4: my overworked mom, seeing that he had not applied, did
- 52:23Speaker 4: it for him, applying to about nine polls. She had
- 52:26Speaker 4: a lot to deal with as she is working full-time
- 52:29Speaker 4: while teaching and taking classes in uni. I know, she's amazing.
- 52:32Speaker 4: She was taking care of his applications and told him
- 52:34Speaker 4: she secured him an interview, which he had to miss
- 52:38Speaker 4: for a class activity, which I understand. Again, I told
- 52:41Speaker 4: him that he needed to apply himself as I think
- 52:44Speaker 4: he is old enough to do it and otherwise he
- 52:46Speaker 4: wasn't going to be able to find a job as
- 52:48Speaker 4: summer started in two weeks. He applied to nothing and
- 52:51Speaker 4: told my mom to do it for him, which she did.
- 52:54Speaker 4: She applied to the pool I work at. Anna did
- 52:57Speaker 4: not tell me, as she knew I would be upset
- 53:00Speaker 4: because we had talked about it before. By the way,
- 53:03Speaker 4: this comes from always a bystander, and if you want
- 53:06Speaker 4: to submit your own stories, go to our subreddit. I'm Savannah.
- 53:09Speaker 4: I'm Dakota. And we're here to talk about some stuff,
- 53:12Speaker 4: give some advice, and your job is to put your
- 53:14Speaker 4: comments down in the comments. Fast forward to now, he
- 53:18Speaker 4: passed the interview and is supposed to be my co-worker
- 53:21Speaker 4: this summer. This upsets me as I feel blindsided because
- 53:25Speaker 4: had I known, I would have looked for another job
- 53:27Speaker 4: because I don't want to work with him. I am
- 53:29Speaker 4: pretty close with my co-workers who are all my age
- 53:32Speaker 4: and older. Every Wednesday and often Friday we hang out together.
- 53:35Speaker 4: I would feel extremely awkward around my friends and having
- 53:39Speaker 4: him around me. I can't really explain why but I
- 53:42Speaker 4: really do not want to work with him as the
- 53:44Speaker 4: dynamic would be weird. I have always felt responsible for
- 53:47Speaker 4: my brother and I do not want this extra pressure
- 53:50Speaker 4: during my last summer working a fun job as I
- 53:53Speaker 4: am in a program with scheduled internships. My whole family
- 53:56Speaker 4: is calling me selfish for asking my brother to find
- 53:59Speaker 4: another job, even if it's not necessarily a lifeguarding job.
- 54:03Speaker 9: I would agree.
- 54:04Speaker 4: It's come on.
- 54:05Speaker 9: It's lifeguarding.
- 54:05Speaker 4: Who are you talking about? She's 19. He's 16. And
- 54:08Speaker 4: she's like, I don't want to look after him.
- 54:10Speaker 7: And you don't have to. Like anytime there's like a
- 54:13Speaker 7: metric of I've been working for three summers.
- 54:15Speaker 9: It's like, shut up.
- 54:16Speaker 7: It's a summer job. Who cares if your brother works there?
- 54:19Speaker 7: It's going to work there when you're not working there, too.
- 54:21Speaker 4: I also proposed to quit my job and find something
- 54:23Speaker 4: else myself, which was also shut down by my parents
- 54:27Speaker 4: as I am saving money for university and only have
- 54:29Speaker 4: light gardening experience and they think that I won't be
- 54:31Speaker 4: able to find a job that pays me as much as.
- 54:35Speaker 10: $ 19 an hour. Hey, so did you know that you
- 54:37Speaker 10: can just look for a job anyway and you don't
- 54:39Speaker 10: have to care that your parents say that because you're 19?
- 54:42Speaker 4: Would i be the a-hole if i tell my parents
- 54:44Speaker 4: and brother not to take the job at my work
- 54:46Speaker 4: or else i will talk to my manager about possibly
- 54:49Speaker 4: not accepting him or quitting the fact that my mother
- 54:51Speaker 4: did not tell me until it was really too late
- 54:54Speaker 4: for me to find something else and that my brother
- 54:56Speaker 4: did not apply even though i told him to multiple
- 54:58Speaker 4: times is making me really upset the upset is mixed
- 55:01Speaker 4: with guilt as i feel responsible for my younger brother
- 55:04Speaker 4: so am i the a-hole there Notifications and the final update.
- 55:08Speaker 4: Working different shifts is not really an option. A lot
- 55:10Speaker 4: of comments have suggested this. The pool is generally open
- 55:14Speaker 4: from 11am to 7pm, plus opening slash cleaning, and there
- 55:17Speaker 4: is essentially just one shift. We don't have like a
- 55:20Speaker 4: separate morning and evening shift. There also aren't that many
- 55:23Speaker 4: lifeguards on staff, so if my brother works there, we're
- 55:26Speaker 4: going to be working together most of the time, like
- 55:28Speaker 4: 3-4 out of 5 weekly shifts. I would never actually
- 55:31Speaker 4: tell my manager not to hire my brother. I really
- 55:34Speaker 4: regret that last line of my post. I was frustrated
- 55:37Speaker 4: emotionally and honestly just ranting. After sleeping on it and
- 55:40Speaker 4: rereading my post, I can say that I would never
- 55:43Speaker 4: actually do that. And I was just speaking out of
- 55:46Speaker 4: frustration for an accumulation of feelings that stem from how
- 55:49Speaker 4: I feel like I'm carrying more than my share in
- 55:52Speaker 4: this family. and I feel like my brother is not
- 55:54Speaker 4: understanding this. That part of my post was written out
- 55:57Speaker 4: of frustration, not because it was something I genuinely planned
- 56:00Speaker 4: on doing. It isn't really possible for me to just
- 56:03Speaker 4: find another job now. Summer has already started and the
- 56:06Speaker 4: pools are open. The seasonal hirings are already done. That's
- 56:09Speaker 4: a big reason why I feel blindsided by the situation.
- 56:12Speaker 4: I talked to my brother about applying for jobs for months.
- 56:15Speaker 4: I reminded him repeatedly. I offered to help him. I
- 56:18Speaker 4: talked to my mom. about not wanting us to work
- 56:21Speaker 4: at the same pole. I feel like I did everything
- 56:23Speaker 4: in my power to prevent this situation from happening. I
- 56:25Speaker 4: don't think anyone was playing against me or trying to
- 56:28Speaker 4: hurt me. I understand that, but I do think I'm
- 56:30Speaker 4: allowed to feel frustrated that the exact situation I repeatedly
- 56:34Speaker 4: expressed concerns about happened anyway after I did all I
- 56:38Speaker 4: could to avoid it. When I say the dynamic would
- 56:40Speaker 4: be weird, I don't mean that I hate my brother.
- 56:43Speaker 4: People were saying that I must hate my brother, but
- 56:45Speaker 4: I actually love my brother a lot and feel protective
- 56:48Speaker 4: of him. The problem is that I've spent years feeling
- 56:50Speaker 4: responsible for him, even when nobody explicitly asked me to.
- 56:54Speaker 4: That's the role I naturally take, even if it's not
- 56:57Speaker 4: something I want to do. There's also another aspect of it.
- 57:00Speaker 4: Last summer, there was a guy who worked with us
- 57:02Speaker 4: who reminded me a lot of my brother. People didn't
- 57:04Speaker 4: bully him or anything, but they would sometimes make comments
- 57:07Speaker 4: or joke about his interests and personality. Whenever that happened,
- 57:10Speaker 4: I found myself defending him because he reminded me of
- 57:13Speaker 4: my brother.
- 57:13Speaker 7: I'm so confused how OP's brain works.
- 57:16Speaker 4: If those comments were being made about my actual brother,
- 57:19Speaker 4: I know I would have taken them much more personally.
- 57:22Speaker 4: I would probably get protective and defensive. I worry that
- 57:26Speaker 4: instead of just enjoying work, I'd constantly be worrying about
- 57:29Speaker 4: how he's fitting in or whether people are judging him.
- 57:31Speaker 7: What do you mean just enjoying work?
- 57:33Speaker 5: You're a lifeguard.
- 57:34Speaker 10: You're supposed to be constantly worrying about all the people
- 57:37Speaker 10: in the pool that you have.
- 57:38Speaker 7: To make sure aren't drowning. What are you talking about?
- 57:40Speaker 4: A lot of my coworkers are friends, but they're mostly
- 57:43Speaker 4: summer friends. We get along really well at work and
- 57:46Speaker 4: hang out during the summer, but I don't see most
- 57:48Speaker 4: of them during the rest of the year. I guess
- 57:50Speaker 4: part of my fear is that having my little brother
- 57:52Speaker 4: there changes that dynamic and puts me in a position
- 57:55Speaker 4: where I feel caught between him and the group. That's
- 57:57Speaker 4: what I meant by it being weird. Not that I
- 57:59Speaker 4: dislike him, but that I think I would have had
- 58:02Speaker 4: a hard time separating being his co-worker from being his
- 58:05Speaker 4: older sister. Finally, I've had some time to reflect and
- 58:09Speaker 4: I've come to terms with it. After making this post,
- 58:11Speaker 4: I talked to one of my closest friends. We've been
- 58:14Speaker 4: friends for almost 14 years. She works at the same pool,
- 58:17Speaker 4: knows the work environment, and has known my brother since
- 58:19Speaker 4: he was about four years old. She's someone who I
- 58:21Speaker 4: felt could give me good advice as she knows me,
- 58:24Speaker 4: my brother, and the pool. She agreed that the pool
- 58:26Speaker 4: environment probably isn't the most natural fit for my brother
- 58:29Speaker 4: and that having us work together will likely be a
- 58:31Speaker 4: little awkward. At the same time, she also helped me
- 58:34Speaker 4: work through my feelings and reminded me that while I'm
- 58:36Speaker 4: allowed to be frustrated, at the end of the day,
- 58:38Speaker 4: the situation is happening and I'm going to have to
- 58:41Speaker 4: accept it. And I know she's right. bit left here.
- 58:43Speaker 4: I'm glad you came to terms with it, OP. I
- 58:46Speaker 4: was afraid for a second.
- 58:47Speaker 7: I mean, what else was she going to do? Drain
- 58:49Speaker 7: the pool?
- 58:49Speaker 4: She helped me realize that a lot of my reaction
- 58:52Speaker 4: came from an accumulation of things that have nothing to
- 58:55Speaker 4: do with this specific job. For a long time, I've
- 58:58Speaker 4: felt very responsible for caring my family emotionally, and I've
- 59:02Speaker 4: tried to communicate that to him, as he is often
- 59:04Speaker 4: the source of conflicts. But I don't think it's really
- 59:06Speaker 4: gotten through. Whether that's because he's a teenager, because we
- 59:09Speaker 4: communicate differently or for some other reason I don't know
- 59:12Speaker 4: I can't admit now that some of that frustration turned
- 59:15Speaker 4: into resentment And I don't feel good about that. So
- 59:18Speaker 4: while I still wish things had happened differently, I've accepted
- 59:22Speaker 4: that he's going to be working there and that I'm
- 59:24Speaker 4: going to have to adjust. I don't have to love
- 59:27Speaker 4: the situation, but I can deal with it. I care
- 59:30Speaker 4: about my brother. I want him to succeed. And I'm
- 59:32Speaker 4: hoping that once the summer actually starts, it'll end up
- 59:35Speaker 4: being much less of a big deal than I've built
- 59:38Speaker 4: it to be in my head. Hopefully.
- 59:40Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it will.
- 59:42Speaker 4: And I think.
- 59:43Speaker 10: you've definitely got anxiety and I think you're probably already
- 59:46Speaker 10: in therapy based on the way that you speak and
- 59:49Speaker 10: just keep going and keep working on it.
- 59:51Speaker 1: And that's the end of this story.