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How Old Is Old? · Armstrong & Getty One More Thing

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  Speaker 1: How old is old? It's one more thing. I'm strong
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  Speaker 1: and geddy. One more thing. You got a couple of
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  Speaker 1: things for you before we get out of here. Neither
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  Speaker 1: Joe or I want to do this today, this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why exactly. I'm tird, don't know why exactly,
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  Speaker 1: just just ain't feeling it. Just don't feel like talking anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I.
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  Speaker 2: Get all on the field.
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  Speaker 3: You've been talking for four hours.
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: We played nine innings. I'm in the clubhouse and managers
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  Speaker 2: like tenth innings starting.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like what It reminds me for some reason, you
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  Speaker 1: saying that Katie when I was single and childless. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: What is her name, Gladys? I want to call sorry Gladys.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to call her Lola for some reason, Lola
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  Speaker 1: doesn't play the harp. Thank you, Gladys for laying the
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  Speaker 1: harp of me reminiscing about something when I was single
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  Speaker 1: and childless. There were a few weekends where I would
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  Speaker 1: realize on Monday morning, as I'm driving to work to
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  Speaker 1: do the radio show, that I hadn't said a word
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  Speaker 1: since I left work on Friday, because I hadn't interacted
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  Speaker 1: with another human being at all. I saidn't word to anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Hmmm, I don't really know what to say to that.
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  Speaker 2: What percentage of the population can make that same claim.
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  Speaker 2: I did not interact with another human being the entire weekend,
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  Speaker 2: did not speak a word, fairly limited, I would guess,
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  Speaker 2: but you know you do you what would you guess?
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  Speaker 2: And if you as angry hermit.
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  Speaker 1: I would guess that both my brothers have done it
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  Speaker 1: semi regularly recently, with their kids older and out of
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  Speaker 1: the house.
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  Speaker 3: Like not even a phone call, Like that's bizarre.
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  Speaker 1: Mean, nobody talks on the phone. And I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if that's a good example. Now back in the day, No,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking.
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  Speaker 2: Back in the day. Yeah, right, you had Gladys play
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  Speaker 2: the damn harp, then you called her Lola, And now
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  Speaker 2: we're in the present. What's going on here?
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  Speaker 1: Somebody explained the crowd rules we all lost?
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  Speaker 2: What does Walter say in The Big Lebowski something about
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  Speaker 2: have we all lost our minds? Nobody cares about the
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  Speaker 2: rules anymore?
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  Speaker 1: How much on an outlier do you think I am?
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  Speaker 1: You think I'm in the one percent of the population
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  Speaker 1: that has ever done.
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  Speaker 2: That, or.
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  Speaker 1: It's fewer than five five pretty small.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not five, it's one to one to two,
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  Speaker 2: And I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't think it's probably good for you. I also had
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  Speaker 1: to do with like like, uh, you know, I have
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  Speaker 1: a really big Friday night, maybe a long watching movies
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  Speaker 1: or something. You don't feel so good on Saturday, maybe
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  Speaker 1: part of Sunday. You just don't leave the house. You
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  Speaker 1: order a pizza. You know, it might be an exaggeration
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  Speaker 1: to have not said a word to anybody. Might have
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  Speaker 1: said thanks to the pizza guy when he handed me
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  Speaker 1: the pizza, but it wouldn't have been more than a
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  Speaker 1: couple of words.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, in this day and age, even with phones, I've
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  Speaker 4: done that where you take the recovery day, you turn
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  Speaker 4: the phone off.
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  Speaker 1: Well yeah, so think about this though the younger crowd
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  Speaker 1: now with their lifestyle, like you know, our producer Sean
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, I'll but he had weekends where he never
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  Speaker 1: said a word to anybody other than through maybe a headset, plane,
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  Speaker 1: video games or a number of young people. Now that
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  Speaker 1: you know, you can DoorDash or whatever, you don't have
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  Speaker 1: to call anybody to order food or something. Ill, but
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  Speaker 1: it happens more often than you think. It'd still be
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  Speaker 1: a small number.
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  Speaker 2: It makes me sad.
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  Speaker 1: All I know is we're moving more that direction than
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  Speaker 1: away from it. I would guess, which is good.
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  Speaker 2: You can see all the statistics on how happy and
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  Speaker 2: care free young people are these days.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I ever came out of a
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  Speaker 1: weekend like thinking that was like a really good time
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  Speaker 1: or what an awesome weekend that was or something. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not claiming that.
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  Speaker 4: See. And I'm of the day and age of cell
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  Speaker 4: phones and whatnot, and it's amazing the hoops I will
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  Speaker 4: jump through to avoid having to talk to somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I'll.
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  Speaker 4: You know, scheduling appointments online, ordering online, all that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: I would much rather do that than have to call
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  Speaker 4: and interact with someone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I avoid it now, not because I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to talk to If I thought I could talk to
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  Speaker 1: human being, i'd call right away. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: call and get your impossible to use automated phone system
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  Speaker 1: that takes me twenty minutes and doesn't work. I'll see
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  Speaker 1: if I can do it online. And the reason it
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  Speaker 1: takes twenty minutes and doesn't work is because you want
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  Speaker 1: me to do it online, because it's the cheapest thing
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  Speaker 1: for you, But that's a different topic. A couple of
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  Speaker 1: quick things here. I just came across this. Don't usually
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  Speaker 1: talk about this sort of thing on this podcast. This
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  Speaker 1: money circulating in US is expanding rapidly. We have a
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  Speaker 1: money supply surge going on right now. It's the highest
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  Speaker 1: level in over a year. They think that will likely
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  Speaker 1: lead to inflation surging higher. Don't like that story.
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  Speaker 2: It ought to if the laws of monetary physics are
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  Speaker 2: still true, and they.
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  Speaker 1: Are, and then this one. This is an actual survey.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't one of those done by According to walk
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  Speaker 1: in Tubs, older people always look at who paid for
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  Speaker 1: the survey. A lot of time surveys have just did
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  Speaker 1: their crap because of who they paid for. This is
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  Speaker 1: actual research done by a team of German researchers in
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  Speaker 1: Germany and the United States Journal of Psychology. Stuff about
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  Speaker 1: how what we where we think old age begins has
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  Speaker 1: been moving higher. This is not surprising at all. Last July,
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  Speaker 1: that's what do you think old age began for you?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, last time, I feel like I screwed up my back.
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  Speaker 2: Oh really started the shuffling like I'm ninety and it's
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  Speaker 2: a lot better now.
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  Speaker 1: But that has a lot to do with it, because
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna mention my mom and dad have different
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  Speaker 1: numbers on that, and for those reasons, my mom's physical
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  Speaker 1: health is not near where my dad's is. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what she would say, but she would probably
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  Speaker 1: say old age starts. Well, I can tell you the
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  Speaker 1: average now is seventy five. If you ask a senior,
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  Speaker 1: when does old age begin, it's now seventy five. Seventy
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  Speaker 1: five is the new sixty five, because it used to
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  Speaker 1: be not that many years ago. People said old age
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  Speaker 1: started at sixty five. Now that would seem kind of crazy,
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  Speaker 1: I think for a lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, for me, it started at forty eight. That's when
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  Speaker 2: you start hurting yourself, you know, just doing the most
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  Speaker 2: basic things like walking or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was just in the lunch room and one
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  Speaker 1: of the saleswomen who is now in her forties, was
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  Speaker 1: talking about all forties or not what I thought they
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  Speaker 1: would be talking about trying to work out, and she
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  Speaker 1: keeps getting hurt and blah blah blah. Yeah, but so
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  Speaker 1: now it's seventy five. Is both sixty five? My dad
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  Speaker 1: says eighty eighties when old age starts. But that's because
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  Speaker 1: he was still riding his horse up till eighty two.
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  Speaker 1: My mom has not been as physically as gifted as him,
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  Speaker 1: and would put it a little earlier, but probably about surprisingly.
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  Speaker 2: The horse was seventy five. What it's an old horse,
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  Speaker 2: Joe horse?
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  Speaker 1: When are you going to get off of me? That
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  Speaker 1: is the question. When do I have When do I
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  Speaker 1: get to be an old age? That do only makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: I suppose life expectancy and help. But my mom regularly
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  Speaker 1: says when she she was a kid, people in their
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  Speaker 1: sixties were considered old. You were done with life in
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  Speaker 1: your sixties. Nobody would have thought you played golf or
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  Speaker 1: rode a horse, or rode bikes or vacationed or anything
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  Speaker 1: in your sixties.
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  Speaker 2: You were just starting a new career. You kidding.
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  Speaker 1: You were just in a rocking chair in your sixties,
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  Speaker 1: which now, of course seems crazy. You're the youngest amongst
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  Speaker 1: Katie and he thoughts on this, or does everything over
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  Speaker 1: the age of forty five just seem ancient to you?
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  Speaker 4: No, both my parents are in their early to mid seventies,
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  Speaker 4: and they're both young as can be, So I don't
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  Speaker 4: even think seventy five is old. In my perspective, and I, dude,
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  Speaker 4: everything started hurting on me last year. And I had
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  Speaker 4: a stroke when I was thirty one, so I'm ninety.
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  Speaker 1: That's why we get along so at having a stroke
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  Speaker 1: at thirty one would change your view of it. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't have any health situation really at all until I
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  Speaker 1: got cancer at forty nine.
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  Speaker 4: But dude, my health went nuts at twenty nine. A
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  Speaker 4: kidney problem came up out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 3: A quote mutated gene.
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  Speaker 4: I have a hereditary condition that is a mutated gene
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  Speaker 4: because nobody else in my family has it.
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  Speaker 3: And then I stroked out in twenty twenty. It was wild,
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  Speaker 3: have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: What caused that?
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  Speaker 3: The stroke?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well it was a mixture of not taking care
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  Speaker 4: of myself in stress.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, They said, oh really, but some of it was
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  Speaker 1: in your control.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I I wasn't exercising at all.
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  Speaker 3: I was obese big time.
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  Speaker 1: Were you really? I can't picture you obese at all?
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  Speaker 3: Two pounds?
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  Speaker 1: Were you really? This is new information, so that that's
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  Speaker 1: why you're always talking about working out and you eat
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  Speaker 1: so healthy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I had I had to make a change.
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  Speaker 4: The doctors were like this, you don't they actually call
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  Speaker 4: said that I dodged a bullet because I had three
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  Speaker 4: TIA's over the course.
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  Speaker 3: Of a week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well it'll get your attention, want it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, huge? Kind of like what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: Michaelangelo had had the big shock diabetes diagnosis and had
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  Speaker 4: to make it complete change on his life, eye opening.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I've been saying for a long time that
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to have a minor heart attack.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think a minor heart attack would get my attention
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  Speaker 1: and I wouldn't need donuts and stuff anymore. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want a major heart atack. I don't want to die.
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  Speaker 1: I got kids to raise. But I think a minor
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  Speaker 1: heart attack just a little a huh, like flicking my
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  Speaker 1: ear huh. Wake up.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good luck with that plan. That's between you and
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  Speaker 2: the almighty, who you'll be meeting sooner than later. But
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  Speaker 2: that's an interesting way to approach life. Note to self,
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  Speaker 2: take blood pressure this afternoon. Yes, oh yeah, it's always
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  Speaker 2: a good idea. One final note on brain health, because
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  Speaker 2: during your little screen about not having contact with any
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  Speaker 2: human being for an entire weekend, you know so much
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  Speaker 2: of what we are is neurologically predetermined. Honestly, and if
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  Speaker 2: you're a neurological outsider or outlier, you just are and
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  Speaker 2: you can, as I always say, you can operate within
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  Speaker 2: a certain narraw wish lane of the way you're made.
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  Speaker 2: You can intentionally be more outgoing because you know it's
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  Speaker 2: good for you. Blah blah blah, but you are who
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  Speaker 2: you are. Having said that, we were talking about handwriting
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  Speaker 2: and why so many states are trying to bring back
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  Speaker 2: handwriting incursive. I was intrigued because there wasn't a lot
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  Speaker 2: of information in the article we had, and I was
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  Speaker 2: reading into it and apparently, according to neuropsychologists, there's something
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  Speaker 2: about handwriting that involves all sorts of different parts of
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  Speaker 2: your brain that govern language and creativity and physical stuff
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  Speaker 2: and whatever, and they all have to interconnect and work
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  Speaker 2: together to yield handwriting. And it's really good for your brain. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a use it or lose it thing
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  Speaker 2: with your brain.
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  Speaker 1: I'm completely aware of that, and of just the idea
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  Speaker 1: of That's why journaling and that sort of stuff is
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  Speaker 1: so important. There's something about writing down thoughts that can
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  Speaker 1: get them out of your head and arrange them in
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  Speaker 1: ways that they don't get arranged otherwise. And people have
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  Speaker 1: known this for centuries, and if you don't do it,
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  Speaker 1: you should try it. I do it every day, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: twice a day. But writing things down organizes them in
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  Speaker 1: your head or gets them out of your head, like
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  Speaker 1: if you got to you know, why do I keep
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  Speaker 1: thinking about this thing that's driving me nuts? Write it
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  Speaker 1: down a couple of times and it can go away.
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  Speaker 1: Trust me, I've done it. I don't know how many times,
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  Speaker 1: but I do. They know that printing doesn't do the
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  Speaker 1: same thing as cursive because I print everything. I've had
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  Speaker 1: success with it. And that's why I just don't understand
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  Speaker 1: why they're bringing back cursive specifically.
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  Speaker 2: I really can't imagine why it would be different.
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  Speaker 1: I can't, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, which doesn't mean that it's not. I
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  Speaker 2: just can't imagine.
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  Speaker 1: One question that I don't think they've answered, because I've
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  Speaker 1: looked into this and read some stuff about it. They're
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  Speaker 1: not sure if typing works the same way as I
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  Speaker 1: was just talking about or not, because you are picking
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  Speaker 1: specific letters and having to manipulate your fingers and everything
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and what about playing a musical instrument? And
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  Speaker 2: although you can't compel a kid to play the guitar,
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  Speaker 2: but you can have them right in school, and it's
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  Speaker 2: good for the brains.
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  Speaker 1: They brought back if you didn't hear us talking about this,
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  Speaker 1: they brought back cursive, I think down twenty two states,
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  Speaker 1: and I just wondered, why, what's the argument for it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm seeing that curse.
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  Speaker 4: According to the Google cursive engages more areas of the
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  Speaker 4: brain than when you print.
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  Speaker 1: I if that's true, it's true, right, I do know,
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  Speaker 1: because I know some of these people. There's just a
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  Speaker 1: hanging onto cursive because I've always done it. I'm good
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  Speaker 1: at it, and my grandma did it, and that's why
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  Speaker 1: that drives some of it. But if it's better for you,
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  Speaker 1: it's better for you, and I'm fine with that.
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  Speaker 2: All I know is that the environment of the beast,
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  Speaker 2: the human beast, is evolving at five thousand times the
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  Speaker 2: speed that the beast can adapt to it.
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  Speaker 1: M yeah, probably more like five hundred thousand times of speed.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, all right, how about five million times?
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  Speaker 1: But the point being, yeah, what are we going to
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  Speaker 1: do with that?
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  Speaker 2: I was hoping he'd say, yeah, how about fifty million times? Huh.
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  Speaker 1: And we're not even close to how fast it's going
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  Speaker 1: to go as soon as AI and everything kicks in.
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  Speaker 2: So well, we're all doomed, doomed to insanity, misery, drug addiction,
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  Speaker 2: public fornication.
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  Speaker 3: Who knows, we might know, we.
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  Speaker 1: Wish public fornication, maybe some babies would be born. So
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  Speaker 1: if I was one percent of the population that didn't
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  Speaker 1: talk to anybody over the weekend, that number will be
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  Speaker 1: seventy five percent here in about ten years.
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  Speaker 2: I think, and the survivors will write that history, but
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  Speaker 2: not incursive because their brains have stopped working.
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  Speaker 1: That's something too funny not to end on.
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  Speaker 2: I try and make crank calls on my landline phone,
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  Speaker 2: but nobody talks on the fund anymore. So I just
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  Speaker 2: rained the s and.
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  Speaker 3: Rings and rings, nobody answered.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody answers you refrigerator running?
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  Speaker 3: What? Well, I guess that's it.
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  Speaker 4: M