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- 0:00This is Money in Motion with Class Financial, a fun and informative show designed
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- 1:19Eric, how you doing this morning? I'm doing pretty well. How
- 1:22about yourself? Shown, I'm doing absolutely fantastic. And Malia, how are
- 1:26you doing this week? I'm doing great. It's another lovely day in the
- 1:29Midwest. We all are so excited, Yes, yes we are, and
- 1:33we've got an exciting topic ahead as well, when it comes to social security
- 1:38and understanding of the different benefits when it comes to yourself and your spouse and
- 1:42yes even ex spouses. We'll get into that this morning. It is it
- 1:46is a fascinating conversation and there's always some great questions and calls we get anytime
- 1:51we bring up social security, which means now is a prime time to get
- 1:55in line to get on the air at six O eight three two one thirteen
- 1:57ten. That's six O eight three two one thirteen ten. Before we get
- 2:00to this week's topic and conversation. One of the great features as well on
- 2:04the program is the class Quiz Question the week a chance to win a fantastic
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- 2:15in the program how you can win that gift card. Little tip though,
- 2:17typically both the question and answer to the Class Quiz Question Week come up during
- 2:22the show, so it really helps to pay close attention before we start talking
- 2:24about social security and different things we need to know when it comes to eligibility
- 2:29rules and other things. Let's actually take a look back at last week's class
- 2:32Quiz Question week, get the question and the answer there as well. Yeah,
- 2:37so last week we had a good conversation of revolving around what you should
- 2:40do with regards to relocating, purchasing a home outside of where you currently are,
- 2:47maybe for retirement, just a lot of considerations, tax considerations, et
- 2:52cetera. So we looked at the question. According to the Bureau for Labor
- 2:58Statistics, the largest for retirees as home costs, and the question was to
- 3:01do home costs account for twenty five percent of retirees annual expenses or more than
- 3:07thirty five percent of them, And congratulations to one of our loyal listeners he
- 3:12called in with a correct answer. Gary of Middleton correctly answered that those home
- 3:16costs actually are more than thirty five percent of most of retirees annual expenses.
- 3:22So listen back to last week's show if you want to think about downsizing.
- 3:27It was a lot of great information. Congratulations to Gary, and of course
- 3:30a ton of great information last week's program as well as there's going to be
- 3:34a lot of great stuff this week as well, so make sure you check
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- 3:38can also subscribe right at the website for WIBA, but the best thing to
- 3:43do is claus financial dot com. Also learn more about Class Financials. As
- 3:46mentioned, we of course are going to be talking social Security and a lot
- 3:49of folks depend on their future Social Security benefit for income, and this week
- 3:53we're going to be talking about understanding how those benefits coordinate with your spouse or
- 3:57ex spouse. Aren't we Eric, Yes, we are, Sean, and
- 4:01this is this is a really important topic that we think everyone planning for retirement
- 4:06should understand, but I think Millie and I could both tell you that very
- 4:12few people do, so I'm excited for us to get into it now.
- 4:15First off, to understand your personal situation, we would suggest that you reach
- 4:19out directly to Social Security to get your specific numbers, but at a high
- 4:24level. If you are not currently married, and you have not been married
- 4:28before, then you can basically just code a SSA dot Gov and calculate your
- 4:32own Social Security benefit at your full retirement age or whichever age you decide to
- 4:38begin collecting benefits. But if you are currently married or you were married at
- 4:43one point in time, there are several things to be aware of regarding your
- 4:47ability to collect Social Security benefits based on your spouse. So what we're gonna
- 4:53be talking about today, and I apologize, we're gonna be using the word
- 4:56spouse a lot, so just stick with us. We're gonna be talking about
- 5:00a spousal benefit with Social Security. So as with everything with Social Security,
- 5:05different different groups have different rules. But what we're going to be talking about
- 5:11today is how current spouses, X spouses and widowed spouses are all eligible for
- 5:17spousal benefits from Social Security. Let's start though today because Like I said,
- 5:23all the rules are different. Let's start by looking at folks who are currently
- 5:28married. So if you've been married for at least a year, you are
- 5:30eligible for a spousal benefit of up to one half of your spouse's primary insurance
- 5:36amount, and this does depend on when they begin to collect benefits. But
- 5:41let's pause here for a second because I want to review with the primary insurance
- 5:45amount means. We've talked about this before and other shows, but this is
- 5:49the benefit that a person is eligible for at their full retirement age, which
- 5:55is currently between sixty six and sixty seven depending on the year that you were
- 6:00worn. But this is what we use to calculate the spousal benefit. So
- 6:06if your spouse begins receiving benefits before full retirement age, you would also have
- 6:12a reduced benefit. But the primary insurance amount or the full retirement age benefit
- 6:15is generally where we start. You are not eligible to receive a spousal benefit
- 6:21until your spouse files for their own benefit first. So this is really important
- 6:27because it doesn't hold true for the other groups that we talked about. But
- 6:31you are not allowed to begin collecting a benefit based off of your spouse's record
- 6:36until they have actually begun the benefit on their own. You must also be
- 6:42at least age sixty two to file or receive a spousal benefit, so that
- 6:47that kind of covers the people who are currently married. But let's discuss here
- 6:53as well those rules for X spouses. So we get a lot of jokes
- 7:00about this from clients in terms of, well, you know, at least
- 7:03now I can maybe collect some benefits based on my ex spouse, So we
- 7:09we actually end up talking about this a lot. An ex spouse is eligible
- 7:13for a spousal benefit provided that the marriage lasted for more than ten years and
- 7:17they have not remarried prior to age sixty. So I know this seems like
- 7:21a really specific a couple of rules here, but Leah and I can both
- 7:28tell you plenty of experiences with clients where maybe they've been married and now they're
- 7:32divorced, and they've they've found someone new, and they need to be cognizant
- 7:35of these ages that may prevent them from actually collecting benefits based on their their
- 7:42former spouse. But different from spousal benefits for for a current spouse, a
- 7:48divorce spouse can receive a spousal benefit based on their ex spouse's record, even
- 7:55if they have not yet filed for their own benefit. So long as your
- 8:00ex is sixty two or older, you are able to begin collecting benefits on
- 8:05their record even if they have not so once mall caveat to this, you
- 8:09need to be divorced for at least two years if you want to claim benefits
- 8:13before your ex spouse does. But taking benefits based on your ex spouse's record
- 8:18does not impact their ability to draw benefits or for their new spouse to draw
- 8:24benefits as well. Lots of confusing topics here, but really important to understand
- 8:31hearing some people saying dang to the last parting they may be good for nothing,
- 8:35but's something here as we talk. It's working with our retire Sorry talk
- 8:39this morning with our retirement planning professionals Eric Schwartz and Wili A Quaimas of Clause
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- 9:30a little bit more about social Security and specifically we'll get into talking about the
- 9:33details when it comes to collecting from your spouse's record. We'll find out from
- 9:37Malia about that and take your call next as Money in Motion with Class Financial
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- 10:31eight four four two five six three seven, and then number to get on
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- 10:39That's six O eight three two one thirteen ten. We are talking social
- 10:43security this week, and I think a lot of folks wonder this next one.
- 10:46A ton of folks wanted how much can you get in social Security benefit
- 10:50if you collect off your spouse's record. Malia, Yeah, this is a
- 10:54great question. I just have to laugh at how many times Eric did say
- 10:56the word spouse this morning. Why do we not? You know, we
- 11:01dig into words and meaning like that is a strange word that words spouse sounds
- 11:05like lou so I don't know that. So again, as a spouse,
- 11:11you can claim a Social Security benefit based on either your own earnings record,
- 11:16or you can collect a spousal benefit, and the spousal benefit will provide you
- 11:20fifty percent of the amount of your spouses social Security benefit, as Eric explained,
- 11:26as calculated at their full retirement age. Now, some of you may
- 11:30be saying, but I never worked, and so what does that mean for
- 11:35me? Well, and that's that's where you can take a deep sigh here.
- 11:37And if you did not collect enough credits, We've talked about this many
- 11:41times on the show. You have to have collected ten years worth of credits,
- 11:46which amounts to about forty credits this year. In the twenty twenty three,
- 11:52for example, you have to earn sixteen hundred and forty dollars to get
- 11:56one credit, So the max credits per year is for so it takes ten
- 12:01years to actually be eligible for your own benefit. But let's say you did
- 12:05not go outside the home and work. You do have a benefit coming to
- 12:11you if in fact, you are married. So there goes the spouse word
- 12:16again. So you're automatically entitled to either that benefit based on your own earnings
- 12:22or a spousal benefit based on your spouse or ex spouse's earnings, and Social
- 12:26Security will calculate that and pay the higher amount. But FYI, you're not
- 12:31going to get both. So there's going to be a decision that needs to
- 12:35be made, and Social Security will usually help determine that for you. So
- 12:41many people ask, how is early retirement going to affect my benefits? So
- 12:45if you collect the spousal benefit and you begin collecting this benefit before you reach
- 12:50full retirement age, your benefit is going to be permanently reduced. And that's
- 12:54what people don't understand how important it is to make that decision when you are
- 13:00actually going to start collecting. If your spouse take Social Security early and you
- 13:05take the spousal benefit early, that's going to significantly reduce the benefits paid out
- 13:09over your lifetime. So we really, we really pause, especially when we
- 13:13have married, married couples, when we're looking at when is the best time
- 13:18for one of them to take a versus the other, because sometimes it makes
- 13:22sense for one to let let the biggest benefit grow the longest. It all
- 13:28depends on your specific situation. So some other interesting things to note. If
- 13:33you collect any type of benefit before your full retirement age, and you continue
- 13:37to work and received earn income, you may owe some of your Social Security
- 13:41benefits back. So some of you have heard about you know, if you
- 13:48start collecting before your full retirement age and you're working and you're making too much,
- 13:52that's where social Security starts pulling back because you've not reached your full retirement
- 13:56age and people feel like, you know, why my working then if I'm
- 14:01just losing benefits. So that's why you want to make sure you wait the
- 14:05appropriate amount of time before you perhaps collect your Social Security. But the point
- 14:11here is once you reach that PIA or full retirement age, as Eric said,
- 14:15you can collect social Security and earn any amount working without being subject to
- 14:20any reduction and benefits. So if you're finally getting that sixty six or sixty
- 14:24seven age, which is full retirement for most folks right now, you actually
- 14:28can earn unlimited amounts and not affect your benefits. So that's really important to
- 14:33understand. And then you know, we look at what the average spouse benefit
- 14:39is, so you know, first of all, when social Security was designed
- 14:45back in the twenties, we really know that the government never intended for this
- 14:50to be something that you counted on for your entire retirement, and that's still
- 14:56the case today. So we look at the average spouse will be this year
- 15:01is only about nine hundred dollars a month, that's a spousal benefits or eleven
- 15:05thousand a year. And so just keep in mind that whether it be your
- 15:09own social Security benefit, your spouse is, we are looking for you to
- 15:13make sure that you're designing a future retirement that is not solely dependent on the
- 15:18Social Security benefit. So this is more so a supplement hopefully to the investments
- 15:26in other lines of income you might have. And then really want you to
- 15:30take take time before you apply for spousal benefits, understand how your spouse's benefit
- 15:35may be affected if you are the one taking Social Security benefits early. And
- 15:39then what happens upon the death of a spouse, which we'll get into in
- 15:43just a second. Really fascinating stuff this week with our retirement planning professionals Malia
- 15:48Quavis and Eric Schwartz, we've got a phone line open if you've got a
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- 16:19the air this morning six O eight three two one thirteen ten. That's six
- 16:23O eight three two one thirteen ten. Heading up to the home of Susie
- 16:27the Duck and Lodai. Karen joins us Karen, Welcome to the program.
- 16:30You're on the air with Malia Quavis and Eric Schwartz Class Financial. Thank you.
- 16:37What's your question about? The question is about if somebody's married for ten
- 16:40years and then gets divorced, and then gets remarried, but then divorces that
- 16:45spouse, how do they claim social Security? Can they pick and choose which
- 16:49spouses social Security they would like? Here's free Eric. Oh, that is
- 16:56a really really good question. I'm not one hundred percent sure, to be
- 17:02honest, I have to I have to look that up and follow up with
- 17:04you. But I'm assuming both marriages lasted for at least the ten year timeline.
- 17:14Gosh, I'm not sure. I'm not sure the answer that question.
- 17:17I'm pretty sure that again, this is where we do pull in Social Security
- 17:21and have them look at the records of both. They're not going to let
- 17:23you collect both, let's be quite honest right there, but being able to
- 17:26look at the highest highest amounts. So so I think, you know,
- 17:32that's definitely something to sit down, make an appointment with them, either by
- 17:36phone or in person, and just take the situation at hand and say this
- 17:40is what I'm looking at where you know, where am I going to do
- 17:44better? Because we do see that come up here and there, but something
- 17:48to further explore. All right, sounds good, Thank you, Karen.
- 17:52Really good at really good question this morning. And that's becoming more and more
- 17:56common. And of course, as we talk about, as you mentioned of
- 17:59you know, working with Social Security and understanding that that's also you know,
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- 18:21and then number to get on the air this morning six eight three two one
- 18:23thirteen ten. That's six o eight three two one thirteen ten. You know,
- 18:27one of the things I hear about two is people that I, you
- 18:30know, I filed on my spouse's record and then I would claim mine later
- 18:33and that's going to be my strategy. Is that still a thing? What
- 18:36do we need to know there? Eric, That's a great question and one
- 18:40that we get all the time. Unfortunately, the short answer is no,
- 18:44it is not. But the change that eliminated it was I think relatively recent
- 18:49enough that people talk to friends who are maybe a few years older that we're
- 18:53able to take advantage of it. So they kind of hope or expect that
- 18:57when they when they get to that age, they will be able to.
- 19:00But this, this strategy, which was commonly called file and suspend, this
- 19:07was a social security maximization strategy. I guess, I guess you could say
- 19:11it was. It was made possible by kind of a loophole in the social
- 19:15security law. Basically, it allowed married couples to kind of double dips,
- 19:19so they could begin taking a spousal benefit initially, right, get that fifty
- 19:25percent benefit, and then leave their own retirement benefit alone. Have it continued
- 19:32to grow, you know, get to full retirement age, then start getting
- 19:34those delayed retirement credits all the way to seventy, and then essentially they'd get
- 19:38to that age seventy and they'd switched to their own right. So it was
- 19:42a way to begin collecting Social Security as a spouse and then switch to your
- 19:47own benefit later. But due to changes back in twenty fifteen, the file
- 19:52and suspend strategy is no longer available for couples. That dang, it's a
- 19:59little nice little thing, unfortunately, and I can see why they change that
- 20:03as well. Speaking up by the way, spousal benefits, Eric, I've
- 20:06got to ask do they increase after fr after your full retirement age or what
- 20:11if you wait till seventy claim to claim, will your spouse get a bigger
- 20:14benefit as well? Yeah, that's another another great question. So the answer
- 20:19is here, no again, because unlike Social Security retirement benefits, the spousal
- 20:26benefit does not increase if you wait to take benefits beyond your full retirement age.
- 20:30So really there's no advantage to waiting beyond full retirement age to start taking
- 20:34the spousal benefit because remember, the most you can receive as a spousal benefit
- 20:40is fifty percent of your spouse's primary insurance amount. And remember the primary insurance
- 20:45amount is the full retirement age benefit, so the delayed retirement credits are not
- 20:49going to come into play at all. Now, you can still boost your
- 20:52own retirement benefit by putting off claiming Social Security until seventy, but it's not
- 20:59going to have any impact on those spousal benefits. Now. Of course,
- 21:03this this all goes out the window when when it comes to survivor benefits,
- 21:07because you know, that's just how it works. A widow or widower whose
- 21:11spouse waited until seventy to file for Social Security, they are entitled to the
- 21:17full amount that their their late spouse was receiving, which would include then the
- 21:22delayed retirement credits. So as long as they're surviving spouse has reached full retirement
- 21:26age, they are eligible for that full benefit. Now, as we just
- 21:32learned with the recent call and what we've talked about here, determining when to
- 21:36start your social Security benefits is a really complicated decision. So we do really
- 21:41encourage you to not only social security, but but with a trusted professional to
- 21:48make these decisions. You remember those choose your own Adventure books, Eric,
- 21:51when you were a kid, you go through and you know if slay the
- 21:55dragon or flee. You remember those books. I dot's I think he's too
- 22:00young, but okay, I am not too young for that. Kids these
- 22:04days, Malia, you and I will remember these things, and I feel
- 22:08like somebody could make a lot of money doing a choose your own Adventure book
- 22:12based on social Security for tires, because there's a lot to this. Just
- 22:18a fantastic program. This week, we're actually gonna talk more social security because
- 22:22there is a lot more to know and we're just kind of scratching the service
- 22:26on that. We will do that. We'll also wander on over to the
- 22:29Money in Motion listener question corner. Got a great question from Jackson. We'll
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- 23:30three seven. Talking social Security this week and Melie, I've got asked,
- 23:34so let's say you know a spouse passes. What do we need to know
- 23:40when it comes to then this couple social security benefit when that would occur.
- 23:45Yeah, So obviously it's a difficult time when you're going through that, and
- 23:49one of the things you don't really think about sometimes is, yeah, you
- 23:53have to call Social Security and let them know this event has occurred. And
- 23:59effect, they're going to shut down the benefit upon that phone call. So
- 24:03and if you don't call them, they will, they will find out and
- 24:07they will start pulling the benefits back. So you do want to let them
- 24:10know. So let's say both of you have been receiving a Social Security benefit
- 24:15in the household, which is the most likely scenario. You'll continue to receive
- 24:21the highest of the two benefits, but you're not going to get both any
- 24:23longer. So that's important to understand, especially when you're doing financial planning.
- 24:29You know you can for retirement, you're looking at both both benefits and suddenly
- 24:33we as as planners, we're looking at well, in the event someone passes,
- 24:37how does that affect the whole retirement scheme at that point. So you
- 24:41want to make sure you understand that Social Security does still pay a lump some
- 24:45payment. This has never changed. This amount. It's two hundred and fifty
- 24:49five dollars upon the death of your spouse, which is laughable. We do
- 24:55make sure our clients apply for that and get that. But a little caveat
- 24:59to understand is after the second person passes in the household, social Security does
- 25:03not pay out a second benefit to the estate, So that's really important to
- 25:06know. And then this is key the soonest you can collect a survivor's benefit
- 25:15for social securities age sixty. So unfortunately we see widows who are much younger
- 25:21than that, and and waiting to get to age sixty can be you know,
- 25:26sometimes devastating. So but the point is you can get to age sixty.
- 25:32You don't have to start taking nor do we honestly recommend it, because
- 25:36you're again you're reducing that later that future benefit by taking it sooner. So
- 25:41you really want to take a look at your situation and decide if it makes
- 25:45sense to pull it as early as sixty. So just keep that in mind
- 25:52and meet with someone if you're going through that. Talking this morning with Malia
- 25:56Quavis and of course Eric Schwartz. A retirement plan professionals from Class Financial online
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- 26:22at class financial dot com and the question this week comes from Jackson. He
- 26:26writes in I'm thinking about changing jobs, but I do have a four oh
- 26:30one K loan within my four oh one k What happens to this loan when
- 26:34I leave my current place of employment? Yeah, that is a great question.
- 26:40We actually hear that quite often, so it is important to know how
- 26:44this works. If you change jobs, sometimes you get let go, so
- 26:48it's not even a choice. And we understand that sometimes people do end up
- 26:52borrowing from themselves, so to speak, and although we don't encourage it,
- 26:56we know that sometimes it may make sense given your circumstance. But to answer
- 27:00your specific question, you normally have five years to pay back you know,
- 27:06this internal loan, this four owe k loan. Sometimes you have longer if
- 27:08you're using the money to buy a primary residence and those in your plan actually
- 27:14allows for a longer timeframe. But if you quit your job or you're terminated,
- 27:18you'll likely be required to pay back that four owe K loan in full,
- 27:22and if you don't repay it, it can result in a taxable disbursement
- 27:27and also be subject to penalties if you're under fifteen nine and a half years
- 27:32old. So this is why we're not big fans of these four oh one
- 27:36k loans, because sometimes you can't plan for the inevitable or your choice,
- 27:41your choices. I don't like working here anymore. I want to move.
- 27:44Oh I have that loan in place. So sit down with a professional before
- 27:48you make some of these life changing decisions, really important questions to be asking
- 27:52in things to be considering as well as we chat this week with Malia Quavis
- 27:55and Eric Schwartz, our retirement planning professionals from Class Financial. Their website Class
- 28:00financial dot com. That's klaas financial dot com. Great website to learn more
- 28:06about Class Financial again Class financial dot com. And they're telephone number six O
- 28:10eight four four two five six three seven. No charge for the financial get
- 28:14to know you employment tech Class Financial, It will be complimentary to you again
- 28:17their number six O eight four four two five six three seven. Want hold
- 28:21on to that telephone number. Now it's time for the Class Quiz question the
- 28:23week. It works like this. In just a moment, I'll ask you
- 28:26the claus quiz question A week. You will then have thirty minutes from the
- 28:29end of today's program to call the Class Financial office right here in Madison at
- 28:33six O eight four four two five six three seven. If you are the
- 28:36first caller with the correct answer, you win this week's prize, which is
- 28:38a twenty five dollars gift card two Starbucks. This week's class quiz question a
- 28:42week is this in order to collect a survivor benefit. What is the earliest
- 28:48age you can begin receiving a Social Security benefit? Telephone number six O eight
- 28:53four four two five six three seven. First call out correct answer win the
- 28:56twenty five dollars gift card to Starbucks. And again that's Class Financial's office right
- 29:00here in Madison six SO eight four four two five six three seven. Malia,
- 29:06Eric, it's always great chatting with you guys. Enjoy this fantastic day.
- 29:08Thanks SHN, Thanks Sean. News is next right here on thirteen ten
- 29:12WIB eight. This is Money in Motion with Class Financial Asset Advisors, LLC,
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- 29:33Financial does not offer tax or legal advice. Any opinion offered during the course
- 29:38of this show is the opinion of that particular investment advisor representative, and not
- 29:44necessarily the opinion of class financial