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- 0:00Hey everyone and welcome to Mini Scroll, the daily Internet
- 0:03culture podcast bring you the biggest stories from social
- 0:05media, the creator economy and the digital space every Monday
- 0:09through Thursday and sometimes Fridays.
- 0:11My name is Annabelle and I'm your Wednesday Mini Tech Scroll
- 0:14host and also the deputy editor of the youth digital media brand
- 0:18Centennial World. Welcome back to Mini Tech Scroll
- 0:21for another week. I hope you guys have had a nice
- 0:24week so far. I don't really think I have too
- 0:27much to say at the top of this week's episode, apart from the
- 0:29fact that the stories today are quite techie.
- 0:33So get excited. I guess that is what you guys
- 0:35come here for. And other than that, Please
- 0:38remember to rate, review, and subscribe.
- 0:40And let's just get right into it.
- 0:41The first story I wanted to cover was that Dig has
- 0:45officially launched to the public.
- 0:47I covered the story last year, so I thought it would be a good
- 0:50time to give a bit of an update on it.
- 0:52I will also give a summary for those of you who may have not
- 0:56caught the episode last year. So, for context, Digg was a
- 0:59popular social media platform in the early 2000s, and it was
- 1:03actually the major competitor to Reddit.
- 1:06Funnily enough, Digg actually predated Reddit, so Digg was
- 1:09launched at the end of 2004 compared to Reddit which was
- 1:12launched in 2005. And it shared a similar concept
- 1:16to Reddit as we know now, where people would come to the
- 1:19platform to share links and then users could either dig or bury
- 1:24those links, similar to uploading and downloading posts
- 1:27on Reddit. At the time, Dig was widely
- 1:29considered a quote UN quote Internet darling and was
- 1:32actually way more successful than Reddit, with really
- 1:35impressive traffic numbers for a tech startup at that time.
- 1:38And to put it in perspective, users thought that Reddit was
- 1:43the flop, which is crazy to think about now considering how
- 1:46major Reddit is in the scheme of Internet culture.
- 1:49So you may be wondering how Digg managed to fall into
- 1:53irrelevance. And that is because an I'll
- 1:56Fated update that users widely disliked caused many users to
- 2:01migrate to Reddit in 2010. So last year, Digg's founder
- 2:05Kevin Rose shared his intention to revamp the platform after
- 2:09buying it back. He also shared that he would be
- 2:12collaborating with one of Reddit's original Co founder
- 2:14founders, Alexis Ohanian. So Alexis is no longer
- 2:18associated with Reddit and actually stepped down back in
- 2:212020 where he urged the board to fill his seat with a black
- 2:24candidate. And he fairly recently sat down
- 2:28and chatted with the Times about his journey with Reddit and
- 2:31ultimately why he left. And the journalist who profiled
- 2:34him positioned it as a real disconnect between Alexis
- 2:38Ohanian and the rest of the Reddit board, where he was
- 2:41really pushing to ban problematic forums and
- 2:44subreddits. And they reportedly wanted to
- 2:47keep them under free speech grounds.
- 2:49As the article reads Quote. I could no longer feel proud
- 2:52about what I was building at Reddit, he tells me.
- 2:55Unbeknownst to outsiders, Ohanian had been trying to
- 2:57persuade Hoffman and the Reddit board that the company ought to
- 3:01be banning certain forms and content.
- 3:03He had issues with several racist groupings, as well as a
- 3:06subreddit dedicated to videos of people dying.
- 3:08So with that, I think you can see why Alexis Ohanian might
- 3:12have been keen to move on from Reddit.
- 3:15And work for a direct competitor in Dig.
- 3:18So when Alexis Ohanian and Kevin Rose announced that they would
- 3:22be working together to rebuild Dig, a lot of the coverage
- 3:26around it was that AI had presented them with this
- 3:29opportunity. There were a couple of quotes
- 3:31floating around at the time talking about how AI can benefit
- 3:35this platform, and as one comment from Alexis Ohanian read
- 3:39quote AI should handle the grunt work in the background while
- 3:42humans focus on what they do best, building real communities.
- 3:45This AI focus wasn't actually received very well.
- 3:49Many users came to believe that the only reason that they were
- 3:52coming together to relaunch Dig was because they had seen how
- 3:55much money Reddit has been making from AI deals.
- 3:59And whether that is true or not, prospective users are definitely
- 4:02continuing to question how AI will be used in this new
- 4:05platform. OK, so that is I guess all the
- 4:08context. But last Thursday, Dig public
- 4:11beta officially went live. Users have been invited to join
- 4:14and start making Communities, which is basically a subreddit
- 4:18equivalent as a tweet from Diggs X account reads quote.
- 4:21Digg is for people, places, things.
- 4:24We want to bring back social discovery built by communities,
- 4:27not by algorithms. Join the community.
- 4:29Create a community. Let's dig.
- 4:31And according to posts by Alexis Ohanian that I've seen, there
- 4:35are over 10,000 communities at the time of recording.
- 4:37So I thought it was quite interesting that Kevin Rose and
- 4:40Alexis Ohanian actually took to Reddit to do and ask me anything
- 4:44about dig. The most upvoted question under
- 4:47this Ask Me Anything was about AI with the user asking quote
- 4:51why should we expect this to be anything other than another AI
- 4:55investment pump and dump? Alexis Ohanian did go on to
- 4:58respond to this question and noted that AI is not the
- 5:01centerpiece of Diggs product or business model.
- 5:04He explained that quote we are not using AI to rank content,
- 5:07shape discourse, personalized feeds, or decide what you should
- 5:11see. There is no black box
- 5:13recommendation engine optimizing for engagement.
- 5:16Where AI does show up is in narrow, boring infrastructural
- 5:19places. You can see in the responses
- 5:22that Reddit users did go on to debate whether his answer was
- 5:26100% truthful or not. Some of the users did also
- 5:30praise him for being upfront about the use of AI in certain
- 5:33cases, whereas others claim that he was downplaying it.
- 5:37But at the end of the day, I think this is an example of how
- 5:40disillusioned so many users are with AI infiltrating absolutely
- 5:44every aspect of social media in one way or another, and how
- 5:49there is a clear problem when tech companies market their
- 5:52product to consumers by highlighting AI.
- 5:55Even though this is something that might be interesting to
- 5:58investors, I don't think it lands with consumers.
- 6:02And I feel like you really see platforms doing one of two
- 6:04things at the moment. It's either highlighting the AI
- 6:08or completely rejecting it like Divine, which is Vines reboot
- 6:11that we've spoken about before. But this whole conversation
- 6:13reminds me of a TikTok I saw earlier this week that I wanted
- 6:16to share with you guys. A TikTok user named Fazan who is
- 6:20also a design researcher, said why AI feels so intrusive on
- 6:24social media, noting that it's a way to increase demand because
- 6:27organic demand isn't high enough to what the tech companies need.
- 6:31I'll insert it now, but I thought it was really
- 6:34interesting analysis. Every time you see an AI button
- 6:37where it doesn't belong, you are looking at 100 year old strategy
- 6:41that brought toasters to our kitchens.
- 6:43To understand why, we have to take a look at the early 1900s.
- 6:47Back then electric companies had a problem called load factor.
- 6:50People only use electricity for light at night, so during the
- 6:54day the power plants sat idle. They didn't just need to sell
- 6:58convenience, they needed to invent appliances like irons and
- 7:02toasters to keep the grid running 24/7.
- 7:04Shocker that they weren't invented because humanity was
- 7:07desperate for perfect toast. They call it induced demand, but
- 7:10you can call it supply side desperation.
- 7:12And today we're seeing a repeat of the same playbook.
- 7:15Companies like Open AI are projected to need hundreds of
- 7:19billions of dollars just to stay afloat.
- 7:22They have built massive data centers and they need you to
- 7:25keep the meter running. The organic demand isn't enough
- 7:28to pay the bills, so they can't just be niche tools.
- 7:31They need to insert themselves into our daily lives.
- 7:34With these new AI agents, they are actively moving into your
- 7:38house. They want to cook and clean and
- 7:40talk for you, whether you ask them or not.
- 7:43It's a form of digital colonialism.
- 7:45And for those of us in the global majority, this is a
- 7:49sovereignty issue. If our primary digital spaces
- 7:51are populated with AI trained on Western norms, what does that do
- 7:55to our unique voices? I'm not trying to say that this
- 7:58strategy that he explains all quote UN quote digital
- 8:01colonialism is applicable to Dig, but I think it helps
- 8:05explain maybe some of the undertones why users are so wary
- 8:10of AI features even if they are supposedly helpful or they are
- 8:14in minor aspects of the platform.
- 8:16Anyway, aside from the AI of it all, I am really curious to see
- 8:21how DIG goes. To be fair, I haven't really
- 8:23seen much buzz around it or really anyone talking about it
- 8:27so far. But I do think it's probably
- 8:29positive to have a competitor to Reddit because Reddit has really
- 8:33monopolized the forum space I guess online, and if Dig does
- 8:38turn out to be a formidable competitor to Reddit, it might
- 8:42improve user experience for Reddit uses.
- 8:44I am curious though, would you guys use Dig?
- 8:46Have you checked it out? I think people are really
- 8:49turning to it if they are completely fed up with Reddit or
- 8:52if they're nostalgic and had used dig back in like the early
- 8:562000s. But it is interesting because
- 8:58there does seem to be a bit of a trend of rebooting platforms
- 9:01between Dig and divine. But yes, I'm definitely curious
- 9:04to hear your thoughts. The next story I have today is
- 9:07another app that TikTok has recently launched.
- 9:09So I first saw this reported by Business Insider, but basically
- 9:14TikTok has rolled out this quote UN quote micro drama app called
- 9:17Pine Drama. And according to reports, it's
- 9:20only been released so far in the US and Brazil.
- 9:23So the apps interface reportedly look quite a bit like TikTok
- 9:27where you are just scrolling. But instead of user generator
- 9:30content, all the videos are mini dramas, which are short form
- 9:34video clips that are a part of a bigger series.
- 9:36As reported by Business Insider Quote, the most popular micro
- 9:40drama series often include romance or the supernatural or
- 9:43both. Think sordid love affairs with
- 9:45vampires or werewolves. Pine drama shows are no
- 9:48exception, with one series, Love at First Bite, garnering 18
- 9:52million views. Its current top three trending
- 9:54shows each had over 100 million views, according to the tallies
- 9:58displayed on the app. Right now, users can allegedly
- 10:01log in through that TikTok account and use the app that
- 10:04way. And at this time, according to
- 10:06articles I've read. Because obviously I don't have
- 10:08access to the app, there doesn't seem to be any monetization or
- 10:12pay walls up, which I'm sure will come eventually once the
- 10:15app kind of solidifies and if it picks up.
- 10:18I wanted to cover this story because I think it's a really
- 10:20interesting niche. Like it's definitely common to
- 10:22watch clips of TV shows as it shows up in your For You page or
- 10:26of movies. So I can definitely see the
- 10:28connection in creating an app like this.
- 10:31There are also other apps that already exist that are similar
- 10:34to Pine Drama, including Drama Box where episodes are one to
- 10:38three minutes long and Summer Paewold.
- 10:40And there's also a real short which was developed by Silicon
- 10:44Valley based Crazy Maple Studio. Now I haven't actually used any
- 10:48of these apps, but from my understanding, this content
- 10:51format has been gaining popularity in China for many
- 10:54years now and it's now clearly making its way into other
- 10:58markets. I've also seen claims that micro
- 11:00dramas or micro series like this are the future of streaming and
- 11:05I'm not 100% sure where I sit on that, but I could so see this
- 11:09kind of format gaining more traction over the years.
- 11:12Firstly because it's long form content in a short form format,
- 11:16but also it's like a game. I think part of the reason, like
- 11:20we are also addicted to TikTok is because we are constantly
- 11:23engaged in it by scrolling, like we constantly have to touch the
- 11:27screen. So that keeps us really locked
- 11:29in and I think this is another iteration of that.
- 11:32I am really invested in this niche now.
- 11:34I think I'm going to have to do some digging later and I'm
- 11:36definitely curious to hear if you guys consume this kind of
- 11:39content and if you do, how you got into it.
- 11:42This brings us to my last story for today, and it's actually
- 11:45kind of three short stories, but they are all relating to meta.
- 11:49The first story I have to mention is that the metaverse is
- 11:53quote, UN quote, officially over.
- 11:55So there have been reports over the past week that Meta has
- 11:58quietly pulled the plug on the metaverse, and the metaverse was
- 12:02Meta's vision for the future of the Internet.
- 12:05The discussion around the metaverse really picked up, I
- 12:08would say, throughout 2021. And broadly speaking, the
- 12:12metaverse was seen as an interconnected virtual space
- 12:15that real people could share in real time.
- 12:19While it was definitely seen as being in its rudimentary phase,
- 12:23Meta was incorporating an array of of technology to make this
- 12:26happen, ranging from augmented reality to virtual reality
- 12:30software to 3D holographic avatars.
- 12:33To kind of fulfil the metaverse and make the metaverse represent
- 12:38a fully realized digital world that our online and offline
- 12:42lives could basically go between.
- 12:45But last week, it was reported that Meta laid off 1500 people
- 12:49in the metaverse division. On top of this, Meta also said
- 12:53that, Quote, Horizon Workrooms are set to be discontinued from
- 12:56February 16, and these work rooms were basically virtual
- 13:01reality collaboration spaces for remote teams to meet,
- 13:05brainstorm, and work together. Looking back on this, it
- 13:07definitely feels of it's time for me like this feels like
- 13:11ideas that were circulating in the early twenty 20s, mainly
- 13:14because of the pandemic. But at this point, it's kind of
- 13:16clear that the metaverse didn't necessarily gain the traction
- 13:19that Meta was anticipating and that now the future of the
- 13:23Internet is looking less like this and more like embracing AI
- 13:27in certain formats. As Sean Hollister writes for the
- 13:30Verb quote in the aftermath, it's becoming increasingly clear
- 13:33that Zuckerberg has changed his mind about what the word
- 13:36metaverse actually means. Mobile, yes.
- 13:38Smart glasses, yes, but maybe not.
- 13:41Speaking of smart glasses, I do have another quick story that I
- 13:44wanted to mention here and that is this viral TikTok going
- 13:47around about Meta AI glasses. So actor Kat Connor Starling
- 13:52posted a TikTok of her mother who was blind that has gained
- 13:55over 1 million views since being posted a couple days ago.
- 13:59The text on the screen reads watch as my blind mom uses the
- 14:02new Meta AI glasses to regain some independence.
- 14:06In the video, her mom is wearing the Meta AI glasses as it says
- 14:10and she's in a grocery store and she's basically sharing how she
- 14:13uses it. So for example, she asked the
- 14:16glasses to read a package that she's holding to be able to know
- 14:19exactly what it is. So many of the users commented
- 14:23on this video saying that this has completely changed their
- 14:25perception and opinion on AI and talking about how this should be
- 14:29the only form of AI that is acceptable.
- 14:32I thought this change of opinion was kind of interesting because
- 14:36I feel like in the popular imagination of Internet culture
- 14:40enthusiasts, the meta AI glasses were kind of seen as needless or
- 14:45unnecessary. Because I feel like most of us
- 14:48have probably touched base with it when we see creators vlogging
- 14:52in them. But I thought this was a whole
- 14:53SIM story to show how these developments can actually be
- 14:57helpful to some people. My last quick meta update that I
- 15:01wanted to talk about is how Threads has reportedly surpassed
- 15:04X in daily mobile users. I saw this reported by
- 15:08TechCrunch so I will be pulling from their piece.
- 15:11But they pulled data from Market Intelligence from similar web
- 15:15and according to this data, Threads had 141.5 million daily
- 15:20active users on mobile compared to X with 125 million daily
- 15:25active users on mobile. And this was from early January
- 15:28this year. And while Threads has surpassed
- 15:31X when it comes to mobile, it doesn't seem like that is
- 15:35universal because X is still ahead when it comes to daily
- 15:39active users on the web. It doesn't necessarily surprise
- 15:42me that Threads is gaining traction and gaining users first
- 15:47because of Meta's major cross-platform promotional
- 15:50tools. I feel like it always end up on
- 15:52Threads from accidentally clicking on it on Instagram.
- 15:56And aside from this, Threads is also continuously introducing
- 16:00new features, which is likely to bring people to the app if they
- 16:03see something that they like. And lastly, we cannot ignore the
- 16:07context why people would be leaving X for other platforms,
- 16:10especially in the wake of everything that I've been
- 16:12covering with Grok and as well as everything before that.
- 16:16And whether they're going to Threads or Blue Sky, that is up
- 16:18to them. But I do find it interesting
- 16:20that X, arguably it still holds more cultural capital than
- 16:24Threads. It's obviously been around for
- 16:26much longer. So it has a distinct culture,
- 16:29one that is definitely toxic, but it is distinct and it's not
- 16:33one that's been imported from other apps, which is, I feel,
- 16:36what Threads falls victim to with Instagram a little bit.
- 16:40But who's to say that that is going to last forever?
- 16:43Threads can possibly catch up in time.
- 16:45I know Lauren has occasionally found herself covering drama
- 16:48that is going down on threads on Mini Scroll, so maybe
- 16:52something's already happening there.
- 16:53Well, that is everything from Mini Tech Scroll today.
- 16:57I really hope you guys enjoyed. This was quite a techie episode
- 17:01as I said at the top of the episode, but hopefully you found
- 17:04it interesting. Lauren will be back for a
- 17:06regular episode of Mini Scroll tomorrow and I will speak to you
- 17:10next week. Thanks for listening.
- 17:12Bye.