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What Forgiveness Looks Like When Trust Is Broken · Groove with Portia

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Speaker 1: So some of you guys may remember that when my
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Speaker 1: dad made his transition back in twenty twenty three, I
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Speaker 1: mentioned that I had to forgive him for the things
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Speaker 1: that he didn't do and also the things that he did.
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Speaker 1: And one of the things that I'm very grateful for
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Speaker 1: to this day is being able to show up for
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Speaker 1: him even when he couldn't always show up for me, right.
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Speaker 1: And I think one of the other parts of this
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Speaker 1: is that learning what forgiveness looks like for my own language. Right.
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Speaker 1: How many of us have been served the regurgitated platitudes
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Speaker 1: of what forgiveness should look like. You should be all
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Speaker 1: you know, Kumbaya, peace, be with you, all that stuff,
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Speaker 1: But that doesn't always work for all of us. So
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Speaker 1: today I have the honor of being joined by an
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Speaker 1: individual who I consider a soul mother of mine. She's
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Speaker 1: also a forgiveness expert, also a spiritual wisdom mentor, and
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Speaker 1: the host of the Change podcast. She's a speaker and
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Speaker 1: author as well. So welcome to girul Portsie, Miss Nicole Harvick. Nicole,
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Speaker 1: how are you today?
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Speaker 2: I'm so good. I'm so happy to be here. Anytime
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Speaker 2: I can spend any amount of time with you, I am.
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Speaker 2: I am just.
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Speaker 1: Excited, Nicole, same because I think the world right now
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Speaker 1: could use a little bit of wisdom from you on
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Speaker 1: what forgiveness can look like, especially with all the things
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Speaker 1: going on. Right and so, for starters, Nicole, what are
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Speaker 1: you grateful for today?
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Speaker 2: I am grateful that I have a house to live
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Speaker 2: in because it's extremely cold here and I think about
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Speaker 2: the people that don't, and I know there's a lot
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Speaker 2: of them, and so right now it's something simple as
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Speaker 2: just having a roof over my head.
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Speaker 1: That part that I mean it. The weather has definitely
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Speaker 1: been giving us a little bit of Arctic vibes, and
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Speaker 1: you know this going back to the gratitude of simplicity,
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Speaker 1: right having a roof over your head, having you know,
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Speaker 1: being able to layer up in different clothes, because sometimes
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Speaker 1: even the house, even though you may have heat, the
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Speaker 1: heat isn't always in abundance where you feel like you're
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Speaker 1: sitting on a beach all day. So I appreciate you
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Speaker 1: sharing that, Nicole. In the same way, I practice gratitude
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Speaker 1: every single day, and sometimes it's just the little things, right,
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Speaker 1: the things that we wake up to that are truly
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Speaker 1: the foundation of what we can be grateful for. And Nicole,
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Speaker 1: as I opened up, you know, I talked about forgiving
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Speaker 1: my dad right for the things that he didn't and
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Speaker 1: didn't do. And I'm sure, Nicole, for you, I know
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Speaker 1: that forgiveness hasn't always been the backpack on your back
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Speaker 1: that you carry to this day and that you help
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Speaker 1: other people with. So can you share with our audience
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Speaker 1: and Nicole, how did forgiveness become a part of your realm?
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to make it really compact, because we
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Speaker 2: could talk about this for days. But it started in
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Speaker 2: twenty thirteen when I found out my husband had been
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Speaker 2: cheating on me. And the way I found out was
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Speaker 2: through my youngest daughter, who was in sixth grade, because
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Speaker 2: her iPod touched was SYNCD with his phone, so somehow
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Speaker 2: we still didn't even know how this happened, but the
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Speaker 2: universe shifted all those messages to her and she started
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Speaker 2: sending me pictures and comments and sex and texts. So
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Speaker 2: on top of just being cheated on, there was the
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Speaker 2: devastation of my sixth grader seeing this, which was awful.
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Speaker 2: But as I started understanding what had happened, understanding what
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Speaker 2: I needed to do from that moment forward, I just
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Speaker 2: I knew that there was no salvation for that marriage,
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Speaker 2: and really there shouldn't have been. But I went on
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Speaker 2: a healing journey of my own, just me. And it's
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Speaker 2: really interesting when you're by yourself doing something because the
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Speaker 2: only one you can look to is to you to
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Speaker 2: make it right, to do what works for you. So
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Speaker 2: I started that healing journey and Portia. I went out
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Speaker 2: and got every certificate a person could get. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I tell people you could line the walls with my certificates.
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Speaker 2: They all helped me. You know. It was tuning forks,
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Speaker 2: it was sound, it was meditation, it was everything. And
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Speaker 2: while I was feeling better and like my hair's falling out,
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Speaker 2: I'm scratching my skin until I bled, and I'm like,
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Speaker 2: something's not working. Something's not working. And what I found
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Speaker 2: out it was is I was not practicing forgiveness. And
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Speaker 2: I really didn't That had never really been in my
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Speaker 2: life before, and I didn't really understand it. So I
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Speaker 2: went off the high dive and trying to figure this
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Speaker 2: out and what it is, how it works, why I
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Speaker 2: should give and lo and behold. What I figured out
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Speaker 2: is it's not for them, It's for me. And what
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Speaker 2: I thought about was why would I Why would I
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Speaker 2: choose to carry a burden that someone that was supposed
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Speaker 2: to not hurt me? And then I thought, I don't.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to carry that with me for life.
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Speaker 2: If he didn't care enough to not do it, why
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Speaker 2: should I carry around that? And so I started researching,
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Speaker 2: and you know, and I went to psychologists psychiatrists. I
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Speaker 2: went to women's meetings and everything just left me cold.
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Speaker 2: It's like all we did is talk about it over
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Speaker 2: and over and over and regurgitate. Then I long story,
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Speaker 2: went to Hawaii found something called hoon, which is an
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Speaker 2: ancient Hawaiian forgiveness practice. It consists of four phrases, I
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Speaker 2: love you, I'm sorry, please, forgive me, and thank you.
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Speaker 2: And what I didn't realize or those were for me,
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Speaker 2: those were absolutely me. I'd never told myself I loved myself.
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Speaker 2: I never thanked myself for anything because I just thought
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Speaker 2: it was part of being a wife and mom, you know.
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Speaker 2: So those were big, big things, and i'm sorry hit
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Speaker 2: me the hardest because I had to look at myself
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Speaker 2: and forgive myself for not using my voice to protect me.
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Speaker 2: I didn't want fights in the family. I didn't want
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Speaker 2: angry words because I was raising two daughters. I never
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Speaker 2: spoke up for myself ever, and so I had to
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Speaker 2: forgive myself for not I don't want to say putting
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Speaker 2: me first, but at least putting me in line. You know.
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Speaker 2: I always kind of gave in to him because I
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Speaker 2: didn't want the girls to see anything. And I was
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Speaker 2: so angry at myself when I figured that out, and
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Speaker 2: man did I repeat those four phrases over and over
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Speaker 2: and over, and it was I thought, this can't work.
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Speaker 2: It's free. This can't work, it's free. But I kept
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Speaker 2: noticing I was shedding layers in layers and layers. And
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Speaker 2: it's not easy work because when you do mirror work
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Speaker 2: and look at yourself, you're like, well, you know, you
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Speaker 2: have to take you have to take responsibility for you.
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Speaker 2: And there were some things that I looked at and
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Speaker 2: I thought, oh, yeah, that I kind of did do that.
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Speaker 2: So not an easy journey Portie at all. But I
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Speaker 2: came out on the other side. And what I thought
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Speaker 2: about is if I can go through that forgiveness and
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Speaker 2: forgive myself, I can help other people. And I learned
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Speaker 2: that that whole experience did not happen to me, It
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Speaker 2: happened for me.
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Speaker 1: Nicole. First of all, I commend you because I'm sure
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Speaker 1: that probably you were ready to crack walnuts with your
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Speaker 1: butt cheeks by how furious you were with the messages
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Speaker 1: to your I Pad, you know, seeing literally the receipts
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Speaker 1: right you were in the position to see the receipts
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Speaker 1: where most people have to kind of hunt you literally
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Speaker 1: just had the treasure box open up for organically pan
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Speaker 1: Dorris box literally And you know, Nicole, when you talked
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Speaker 1: about going to Hawaii and discovering hull pon Pono and
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Speaker 1: the phrase i'm sorry hit you the hardest. One of
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Speaker 1: the things that comes to my mind is how there
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Speaker 1: tends to be a lot of shame around people using
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Speaker 1: that word i'm sorry. And I'm curious, Nicoll, for you,
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Speaker 1: what did it take for you to build that relationship
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Speaker 1: with your body to hear that phrase i'm sorry instead
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Speaker 1: of taking it as something negative, but something that has
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Speaker 1: helped you to release so much over the years that
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Speaker 1: you've been doing this.
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Speaker 2: And I love that you say the years because it
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Speaker 2: is ongoing. And one of the books that I read
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Speaker 2: was from Don Miguel Ruiz, The Four Agreements, and I
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Speaker 2: still read that about once a year, and what I
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Speaker 2: learned from that book was take nothing personally. It's not
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Speaker 2: about you. It's about is receiving messages or thoughts or
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Speaker 2: processing them. And that hit home and I thought, oh
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Speaker 2: my gosh, it's not just about me, it's about him.
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Speaker 2: And that was like just this huge epiphany and I thought, Okay,
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Speaker 2: I can do this, but I still had to look
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Speaker 2: at myself. And I was angry because you know, I
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Speaker 2: grew up in the eighties when greed was good in
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Speaker 2: real estate, and this voice never stopped if you know,
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Speaker 2: someone was trying to steal a client or and I thought,
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Speaker 2: why did I do that? Why did I let my
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Speaker 2: voice stop with him? And I took the kids into consideration,
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Speaker 2: but I was really angry because there were so many
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Speaker 2: times I should have stood up for me, but I didn't. Really,
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Speaker 2: I don't think I loved myself then like I know
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Speaker 2: how to do now. It just wasn't anything I knew about.
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Speaker 2: And the forgiveness is really what took me to the
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Speaker 2: self love.
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Speaker 1: Mmm. And really that opened the door big time for you, Nicole,
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Speaker 1: to reclaim your voice that had been suppressed, because let's
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Speaker 1: be realistic. As women, we're a conditioned to quote unquote
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Speaker 1: keep sweet, keep the peace all the time instead of
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Speaker 1: using our voice, because what we're going to be labeled
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Speaker 1: as being you know, you know what, we won't.
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Speaker 2: Say that word. Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 1: And you know, Nicole, I haven't read the Four Agreements
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Speaker 1: in a long time, but I remember reading that about
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Speaker 1: take nothing personally and I think right. I'm sure there's
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Speaker 1: a part of you that had to grieve that version
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Speaker 1: of you to be the woman who we see today.
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Speaker 1: And I'm curious, Nicole, Let's be realistic. We have moments
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Speaker 1: where we have memories that come back up of these
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Speaker 1: scenarios where we're angry. We didn't use our voice, We're
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Speaker 1: angry at the person who showed us the receipts of
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Speaker 1: them having an affair. And how does that look for
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Speaker 1: you today to still choose forgiveness in those moments when
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Speaker 1: you're upset, when you know think back on you not
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Speaker 1: using your voice. How does that look for you today
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Speaker 1: when those moments arise, when you're angry, when you're upset,
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Speaker 1: and you.
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Speaker 2: Know, Poorsha, I'm glad you're bringing this up, because forgiveness
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Speaker 2: is not one and done. You'll feel less about something.
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Speaker 2: But all of twenty twenty five for me was pretty
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Speaker 2: much about continuing to heal myself and I would do meditation,
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Speaker 2: i would do yoga, but I still knew there were
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Speaker 2: spots that little things that were stuck. And it was
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Speaker 2: really really interesting because I realized that healing is a
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Speaker 2: lifelong process. Forgiveness is a lifelong process. Loving yourself is
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Speaker 2: a lifelong process, and so do they still come up. Yes,
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Speaker 2: every once in a while they do. And you're like, now,
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Speaker 2: wait a minute, we went through this body, are you
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Speaker 2: what are you doing bringing it back, you know, to
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Speaker 2: face me. But if they bring it back to face me,
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Speaker 2: it's because there's some little corner or something that didn't
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Speaker 2: get removed properly. And so I know now this will
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Speaker 2: be until I die, working on myself to better myself,
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Speaker 2: to love myself, to honor myself. And it's now it's
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Speaker 2: a journey look forward to.
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Speaker 1: You know, Nico, I'm glad you've brought this up and
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Speaker 1: shared that because I know there's so many people. Let's
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Speaker 1: be realistic, there's a lot of different coaches out there
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Speaker 1: that want to implant regurgitated programming into people that they
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Speaker 1: have to, you know, forgive all the time, or you
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Speaker 1: should find gratitude in this all the shoulds, right, all
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Speaker 1: the programming. And I think so many people become stuck
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Speaker 1: again and suppress their emotions because of new programming, right,
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Speaker 1: and they think that it's a one and done process.
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Speaker 1: But as you just mentioned, we're human emotion, you know,
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Speaker 1: just like grief, right, Grief is seasonal where certain seasons
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Speaker 1: of the year. I'm sure Nicole, you may remember maybe
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Speaker 1: your former husband's birthday, or you see a picture of
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Speaker 1: you and your daughters and them and it brings up
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Speaker 1: some strong moments.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, your heart remembers too. Your heart remembers the good times,
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Speaker 2: but also keep them, acknowledge them, love them. But that
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Speaker 2: doesn't now, it doesn't make me want to ever. There's
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Speaker 2: never thought of going back to him, never, but there's
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Speaker 2: a thought of coming home to me.
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Speaker 1: Hmmm. I love that because I think so many people
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Speaker 1: feel that notion that oh, should I go back? Should
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Speaker 1: I reach out? Did I make the right decision? You know,
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Speaker 1: little digression here. I've I've shared recently over the last
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks about my TV career crumpling and in
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Speaker 1: more detail than before. And there was moments, Nicole, when
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Speaker 1: I once I stepped away, I'm like, should I have stayed?
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Speaker 1: Could I've made this work? And when I think back
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Speaker 1: on and now, at least today, I wouldn't want to
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Speaker 1: step back into that realm because I'm a lot happier
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Speaker 1: now being able to express the stories that I want
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Speaker 1: to without filter and also help more people because life
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Speaker 1: isn't a sound bite. Life isn't a news clip. There's
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Speaker 1: more to life than just these little moments. And also
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Speaker 1: at the same time, everybody who we encounter, every single circumstance,
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Speaker 1: leaves an imprint on our heart. And that's the beautiful part,
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Speaker 1: you know. So I'm glad you brought that up, Nicole,
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Speaker 1: I am, because I think so many people are stuck
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Speaker 1: in this either or instead of an end, right.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, And once you make peace with yourself, once you
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Speaker 2: learn to love yourself. But also one of the things
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Speaker 2: that I learned was I did what I thought was
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Speaker 2: right at the time the knowledge I had, so was
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Speaker 2: it in retrospect? Was it correct? Not really? But it
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Speaker 2: got me through those times, and I didn't know any different.
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Speaker 2: So that was another thing I had to forgive myself for.
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Speaker 2: But when I started realizing all these things, I thought
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Speaker 2: it was hard to fathom. But I thought maybe some
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Speaker 2: of those things he did he thought was right at
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Speaker 2: the time, you know, the cheating, I don't know how
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Speaker 2: you would ever justify that, But some of the other
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Speaker 2: the other choices he made in conversation or what he chose.
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Speaker 2: All I knew was that once I realized certain things,
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Speaker 2: it was easier me for me to forgive others.
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Speaker 1: That part. And you know, Nicole, I'm glad we're having
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Speaker 1: this conversation today because I think right now, as I
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Speaker 1: brought up in the beginning, there's so much going on
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Speaker 1: right where people are let's be realistic showing their true colors,
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Speaker 1: right And I'm not going to go political here, but
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Speaker 1: for Nicole, for our audience who's tuning in today, how
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Speaker 1: can they begin a forgiveness practice because I think, let's
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Speaker 1: be realistic that there's this notion that forgiveness looks like kumbaya,
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Speaker 1: everybody sits around a campfire, but how can they really
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Speaker 1: utilize and build a forgiveness practice that helps them to
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Speaker 1: not only heal, also grow and show more people grace.
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Speaker 2: You know, Portia, Forgiveness can be ugly because you're crying,
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Speaker 2: you're in a heap, you feel worthless at times when
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Speaker 2: you're trying to do this, But then you have to
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Speaker 2: take it slow. And I just started with small things
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Speaker 2: like you know, meditation. I would do, you know, ten
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Speaker 2: minutes of meditation, and what that would do in that
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Speaker 2: time is it would bring me piece inside. This is
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Speaker 2: all about inside. This is not outward. Everything you never
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Speaker 2: go outside of yourself. Everything is inside of yourself. And
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Speaker 2: then I just started reviewing things in my mind. Was
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Speaker 2: I that bad? No? I really wasn't. Was he that bad?
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Speaker 2: Sometimes yes, sometimes no? And so I just assessed it
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Speaker 2: honestly from my heart, and that's when I started taking
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Speaker 2: care of myself. Brought me to self love. Treat yourself
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Speaker 2: kindly during those times, and don't even try to figure
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Speaker 2: it out, because sometimes you can. You can like, oh okay,
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Speaker 2: now I get it, but it doesn't matter because it
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Speaker 2: happened and you're probably going to be changing a lot.
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Speaker 2: So just acknowledged that it did. Let it go. Free
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Speaker 2: yourself from all of those thoughts. And sometimes there's those
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Speaker 2: little stickers that are still inside you that you have
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Speaker 2: to pull out. But it's more about taking care of yourself,
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Speaker 2: loving yourself, acknowledging that there were things you did wrong,
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Speaker 2: come to terms with that, and then then you can
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Speaker 2: start doing bigger things.
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Speaker 1: Nicole, I'm glad you brought up the accountability again because
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Speaker 1: I think sometimes people fall into the all or nothing
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Speaker 1: vote right where we you know it takes two to tango, right.
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Speaker 1: There was two of us in this situation when it happened,
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Speaker 1: and so what role did I play here? Right? And
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Speaker 1: learning how to say? You know what? I could have
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Speaker 1: did this better? But I know for next time right.
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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly and always what I started doing is, yes,
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Speaker 2: that happened. What did I learn from it? What am
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Speaker 2: I taking forward with me? How would I react now
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Speaker 2: versus then? And you can look at yourself and I
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Speaker 2: know that you are totally a totally different person. And
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Speaker 2: it's just so interesting because people always say forgive and
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Speaker 2: forget it, and I don't like that even a little bit.
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Speaker 2: But what I will tell you is what I learned
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Speaker 2: for myself is I forgave. I forgave willingly. No one
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Speaker 2: forced me except my body, who was you know that
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Speaker 2: was getting sick. But then I thought, I don't want
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Speaker 2: to forget this. I just want to feel it without pain,
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Speaker 2: And that way I never repeat it.
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Speaker 1: I think the phrase probably should read forgive and don't
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Speaker 1: forget the lesson you took away from.
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Speaker 2: It exactly exactly forgive, but what did you learn? Okay,
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Speaker 2: and keep that forever. And you really can at some
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Speaker 2: point extract the pain. It's physical. Trauma is physical, and
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Speaker 2: what I had to do is I had to release it.
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Speaker 2: You know, sometimes with anger, sometimes tears, sometimes coughing, but
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Speaker 2: I had to have that out of me, and so
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Speaker 2: that was more of a physical release. And when you
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Speaker 2: it's so interesting. My guides told me this. I woke
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Speaker 2: up one morning and they're like chatting at me. They said, no,
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Speaker 2: you don't understand when you cry, whatever you're thinking about,
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Speaker 2: the trauma is releasing through your tears. Hmmm, And I thought, wow,
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Speaker 2: everything has a reason.
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Speaker 1: I mean literally, your entire body has a filtering system, right,
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Speaker 1: and I think we've been so disconnected from these elements
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Speaker 1: that you know so much trauma, anger gets stuck in
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Speaker 1: our body because we're a shame to feel and to
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Speaker 1: be human, and tears are a natural emotion. They're a
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Speaker 1: natural processing system for us exactly.
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Speaker 2: And people want to shut down those kinds of things
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Speaker 2: because you're not weak. You're actually very strong. You're very
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Speaker 2: strong when you can do this. Don't sit there in
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Speaker 2: a corner and hold back tears. If something's affecting you,
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Speaker 2: there's a reason they're coming up.
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Speaker 1: Let them go yet that part let them Oh well, Nicole.
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Speaker 1: For our audience who's tuning in, we're going to be
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Speaker 1: wrapping up here soon. And again, lots of gratitude to
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Speaker 1: you for coming on the show today. Nicole. I'm sure
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Speaker 1: there's going to be people in our audience who want
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Speaker 1: to connect with you. Obviously check out your podcast, read
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Speaker 1: your book. If our audience wants to connect with you today, Nicole,
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Speaker 1: how can they do that?
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Speaker 2: You know, once I forgave myself and started loving myself,
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Speaker 2: I decided to brand myself because I believed, finally believed
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Speaker 2: in me. So everything anywhere you want to get a
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Speaker 2: hold of me, It's Nicole Harvick and I'm on Facebook,
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Speaker 2: i am on Instagram, i am on TikTok, I'm on LinkedIn,
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Speaker 2: all under my name, so that makes me very proud.
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Speaker 2: I am in the process of writing a book on forgiveness,
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Speaker 2: my story, and it will also have a workbook attached.
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Speaker 2: My podcasts are Monday and Tuesday and there law. I've
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Speaker 2: on my Facebook and they're livedn my LinkedIn, So I'm
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Speaker 2: really putting myself out there, which is very different for me. Porscha.
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Speaker 2: I've always been the one that wanted to be in
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Speaker 2: the background, and I finally once I created a version
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Speaker 2: of me. I didn't create it. This is who I am.
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Speaker 2: I never knew that before, and I know that there's
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Speaker 2: so many more things to come for me and I'm
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Speaker 2: very very excited about it.
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Speaker 1: Well, everybody, you heard Nicole. You can find her on
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Speaker 1: all social media platforms under her name Nicole Harvick. Also,
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Speaker 1: we will have her information in the show notes for
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Speaker 1: you to connect with her. As she mentioned, you can
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Speaker 1: check out her podcast on Mondays and Wednesdays. And Nicole,
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Speaker 1: I'm excited for you about your new book. Definitely let
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Speaker 1: us know when it comes out and we'll do a
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Speaker 1: full author interview with you on the show. Okay, thank you. Well,
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Speaker 1: everybody that was Nicole Harvick that you heard from today.
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Speaker 1: On this episode, I grew a Porsche. And that concludes
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Speaker 1: our conversation for today and until next time, everybody, Peace
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Speaker 1: and hair grease everyone,