Latest / The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast / #29: Gill1918 presents Evan Gerish Part 2 "3-Step Boot Camp"
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- 0:27Lead leg down too early. I talked about this briefly
- 0:31again. It's a battle of speed between
- 0:32your lead and your trail. Most hurdlers lead legs are
- 0:35going to be faster than their trail leg.
- 0:37They're over, they're down and their trail leg is late.
- 0:41OK, so we got to figure out how can we get that trail leg around
- 0:44to be as fast as our lead leg and cannonballs is the answer
- 0:47for that. You hear all the time.
- 0:52You got to send that. You got to get back down because
- 0:53then you can have a, oh, watch me disagree.
- 0:57Watch me sort of disagree with that.
- 0:59Yeah, correct. Correct.
- 1:03You have to be patient with the lead leg.
- 1:05Exactly. Not attacking is going to lead
- 1:08to an early foot strike. If I am not full, reckless,
- 1:11abandoned through the hurdle when I attack, when I go in, I'm
- 1:14going to strike down like this and I'm going to plant in front
- 1:17of my body. If I'm planting in front of my
- 1:20body, I'm going to go up, right, because I put something down and
- 1:26now I'm doing essentially high jump technique.
- 1:30OK. So I want to make sure that when
- 1:32I land or sorry, that when I take off, my trail leg is
- 1:36underneath my body so that I can continue to push forward.
- 1:39Any, any time that I'm striking in front, which is an athlete, A
- 1:42hurdler who is hesitant, they're just going to go up instead of
- 1:46going forward. And then obviously jumping is
- 1:48going to lead to collapsing onto that trail leg.
- 1:50They're going to have to fight to push back up and get back to
- 1:53running form. All these things are just just
- 1:56common hurdler things. So how do we fix that?
- 2:00Got a couple cues that I really enjoy.
- 2:03Shoulders over knees, knees over feet.
- 2:07Let's draw a real nice line here between my shoulder, my knee,
- 2:12and my foot going down like that, OK?
- 2:14If I can have a good lean where my shoulders are over my knees
- 2:17and I can have a vertical ish shin angle where my knees are
- 2:20over my feet, that's a great hurdle form right there.
- 2:25Great hurdle form, especially for drilling.
- 2:28Crunchy, scrunchy, high and tight.
- 2:30I want a small shadow. If I were to shine a light at a
- 2:35hurler running across. I don't want to see this, I
- 2:38don't want to see this, I want to see this.
- 2:41I want tight, crunchy, scrunchy, cannonball looking comet
- 2:46hurdlers. OK, low.
- 2:49Oh, knees up, toes up, same thing.
- 2:52Get down, get down is a cue that I use for lead leg.
- 2:56If they're floating, they need to get down and get down, get
- 2:58that lead leg down. We got to run OK.
- 3:02And then pull I use for the lead arm, got to pull back.
- 3:08And then if I am ever just I don't know what to say, I just
- 3:11say quick low elbow. A lot of times I'll see a freeze
- 3:20frame and the hurdler is like this.
- 3:25I've tried to figure out different ways for the elbow to
- 3:28bend, and I can't do it. The elbow only bends this way or
- 3:34it bends this way. And so if you're here, where's
- 3:37the elbow gone? OK, if you're here, where's the
- 3:42elbow going? Right.
- 3:45So if you're here, where's the elbow going?
- 3:49OK, a low elbow relative to the wrist is going to show more low
- 3:55variance in running form. And what I want to do is I want
- 3:58to go back to running form ASAP, as soon as I hurdle.
- 4:04I want to get right back to running form as soon as I can.
- 4:06OK? So I don't need all this
- 4:08dramatic arm movements, high elbows, things like that, right?
- 4:14Although I tell you what, the Ares merit move, where is he?
- 4:20Right. Oh, let's talk about the zero
- 4:23moment you talked about. Coach Holloway said you have to
- 4:27be patient with the lead leg. OK, very true.
- 4:30I call it the zero moment. There's a moment if you pause
- 4:34that lead leg where you're in the air, you're hanging almost
- 4:38like let's say you do like a clean and there's that moment,
- 4:42just that 0 moment where the bar weighs nothing and then you get
- 4:47underneath it, right? So with hurdling, it's the same
- 4:49thing and try and do it. Did you see the 0 moment there?
- 4:55There was just that pause just for one second.
- 4:58That's OK, especially with the developing hurdler that's going
- 5:01to teach their lead leg to wait for its buddy so that the
- 5:04trailer can come down and we can land just like that.
- 5:08OK. Which is exactly what we're
- 5:09going for, drills to build a three separate once we have done
- 5:17the first drill, once we have done cannon balls.
- 5:21So now they're positioning, their shins are in good angles,
- 5:24they've got good forward lean. Now we're going to do three-step
- 5:29a marches at 10 feet. OK, They are not running through
- 5:33this. They are slowly marching.
- 5:35They're going to pop over the hurdle and then go right to a
- 5:39marching pop, 1-2 pop. It's going to teach them to have
- 5:45good angles. Look at the little guy here,
- 5:47shoulders over knees, knees over feet.
- 5:50He's a happy hurdler. So this is Grayson.
- 5:57For the record, this is not Grayson's first day doing this.
- 6:04A lot of times I do have first day hurdlers.
- 6:06I don't like to fake you guys out.
- 6:09But yeah, Grayson has been doing this for a while.
- 6:10So, OK, 1-2 and then up. He's not running.
- 6:22OK, So three-step A marches at 10 feet.
- 6:27He's got great form here. He's got shoulders over knees,
- 6:30knees over feet, lots of right angles.
- 6:33Look at that lead arm, low variance.
- 6:40OK, that's three-step A marches at 10 feet.
- 6:50Once you do that, we've got the three-step progression drill.
- 6:53So you've got your hurdler, they are doing cannonballs.
- 6:56They've got crunchy, scrunchy form.
- 6:58They've got knees that are to the chest, they've got heels
- 7:00that are to the butt. Everything is shaped up to just
- 7:03go as they clear the hurdle. Well now we got to do the
- 7:09three-step progression. So here's what I do.
- 7:11I put hurdle one on the yellow mark on hurdle one.
- 7:15Then I go 11 feet, I go 11 feet, push it to 13, another
- 7:21131517191921. By 21 the athlete is fully
- 7:28running and three stepping. OK, you've set them up at 11
- 7:32feet. They can do 11 feet no problem.
- 7:35They're going to have to push and continue to push as they get
- 7:38through that drill so that they are at full speed by the time
- 7:41they're down at the end. OK, this is Abby.
- 7:44This is Abby's first day. This is a video of Abby's first
- 7:49day hurtling. And so we went through all this
- 7:55in one day. I mean, how long does the first
- 7:59drill take? 3-4 minutes to do.
- 8:02How long does the cannonball drill take?
- 8:04If they can get it down, may not take much time at all.
- 8:08Some of them may need to do it over and over, but if you've got
- 8:10it down, you can move on. You can progress them.
- 8:12So this is Abby doing the three-step progression drill
- 8:17again. The 1st 2 hurdles she's going to
- 8:18go over that distance is 11, but by the time she's at the end she
- 8:22is 3 stepping at 21 feet. OK, it wasn't pretty, wasn't
- 8:40super pretty, but she did it. But she did it.
- 8:44She 3 stepped at 21 feet in one day.
- 8:53About about I, I like to put it at a sort of an arbitrary
- 8:57distance and then have the athlete kind of calibrate
- 8:59themselves as they run into it. I don't want a big run in.
- 9:02Can't have a big run in. Has to be actually, I tell you
- 9:05what, if you put it on hurdle one, oh, I'm sorry, it's the
- 9:12algorithm. OK.
- 9:17Yeah, I like to, let's say you put it out in like lane 7,
- 9:20there's that exchange zone that ends right there and I kind of
- 9:23have them just like start with their one foot on the triangle,
- 9:26get through. It's like you said, it's about a
- 9:28four step run in. OK, questions about any of the
- 9:32drills so far, The cannonball drill, the A marches, the
- 9:37three-step progression drill. OK on these.
- 9:41So this is for your beginning beginners.
- 9:44Are these things that you tend to do with your kiddos still
- 9:47after they've got it figured out or do you start cutting, say
- 9:51cannonball? I leave the three-step
- 9:53progression drill in because that's good for everybody.
- 9:56It still forces you to push and continue to to get faster cannon
- 10:01balls. I don't have the the big kids
- 10:03that's it's really just an introductory drill just to get
- 10:06them doing proper form. The three-step a marches I will
- 10:09do as maybe a technique drill every once in a while.
- 10:13Yep. All right, moving on now we've
- 10:19got the five step drill. So what I like about the five
- 10:22step drill is it allows the athlete more a little bit more
- 10:25time to think and plan while they're still running at full
- 10:28speed like they would for a three-step.
- 10:30So what I want to do is I want to maintain the cadence, that
- 10:34stride length. I don't want to vary it too much
- 10:37because we want to get their muscle memory and their body
- 10:40used to running, you know, at 8 1/2 meters, 9.1 meters, right?
- 10:45So for boys I go 11 meters, for the girls I go 10 meters and
- 10:49they are sprinting just like they would a five step, except
- 10:52sorry for a three-step, except now it's five steps.
- 10:55OK, they've got a little bit more time to run fast, a little
- 10:59bit more space, and then a little bit more time to plan
- 11:03their moves here. This is Maya.
- 11:08This is not Maya's first day. Actually I'll do a full speed
- 11:13frame. 12345123451234512345 Alright, so you can manipulate
- 11:30the spacing. What I would advise that you do
- 11:34if you're going to manipulate the spacing is look up what the
- 11:37distance should actually be. Because what we don't want is,
- 11:41you know, let's say you put, if I were to have the girls at 11
- 11:45meters, the girls would probably over stride that and it wouldn't
- 11:48be an actual simulation of what we want them to do in the race.
- 11:52OK. So whenever possible, I want
- 11:54them to train so that their legs are moving to the either the
- 12:00split or the frequency that we're looking for for a
- 12:03successful race moving on here. When I coach in college, I do
- 12:14discount to 39 all the time. When I was doing this, when I
- 12:19was doing the hurdle tech club, I kept it at 39 for the boys.
- 12:23I just sort of said, you know, you're going to have to run
- 12:24through it, especially if you're looking to compete at the
- 12:27college level. But other coaches do put them
- 12:31one notch lower for training, but I choose not to.
- 12:34Yeah, I choose not to. So then you've got block starts
- 12:39to hurdle 7. So I love this drill because you
- 12:43can actually modify it a couple different ways.
- 12:45So the markings on the track, whoever wrote that knew what
- 12:49they were doing, because these things just work out.
- 12:52So the distance in the women's race between the hurdles is 8
- 12:561/2 meters. If you multiply 8 1/2 by 2, you
- 13:00get 17. If you multiply 17 by 2, you get
- 13:0434. The distance of the 400 hurdles
- 13:08is 35 meters, which means that you could theoretically go 1357
- 13:15or even 159, and you have a great training distance for the
- 13:20400 hurdles. It's a 1m discount per flight,
- 13:24OK. And you don't even have to
- 13:25measure that off. Just use hurdles 15 and 9 on the
- 13:28women's straightaway. OK, So anyway, so when we're
- 13:32doing the seventh step, we are going to have, yeah, the boys
- 13:37are just on the girls Marks and the women, we're going to
- 13:39discount two more meters. So the women are going to do
- 13:41this at 15 and then they take 7 steps in between.
- 13:45It's just another way to expand, give them more time to run
- 13:48through, be thinking about what they're doing, plan.
- 13:52And then also you can do this for a 400 hurdle drill.
- 13:56Again, 17 meters times 2 is 34. That's 1m discount off of the 35
- 14:01distance, which is, which is what we run at.
- 14:04And so you can break that down like this.
- 14:07If you're doing 7 steps at 17 meters, that's a direct
- 14:11translation to a 15 step pattern around the hurdles, which is
- 14:14what a lot of successful high school boys are going to be
- 14:17doing 8 steps. Of course we have to switch legs
- 14:20now because even we switch, 8 steps at 17 meters is going to
- 14:24translate to 16. 9 steps in 17 minutes is going to translate to
- 14:2817. A lot of women are going to be
- 14:31running 17 steps, especially in the early part of the 400 hurdle
- 14:35race. OK, so looking at this video
- 14:38here, that's just that visualized.
- 15:01123-4567, 123-4567, 123-4567. OK, All right.
- 15:14And then at that point you are you're pretty much there, your
- 15:20athlete is pretty much ready to begin 3 stepping out of the
- 15:23blocks at at training distance. So here's the progression for
- 15:27that. The women, the distance is 28
- 15:30feet. That's the race distance that
- 15:32the women compete at. The men compete at 30 feet.
- 15:35So I would start them at 30 inch hurdles at 7 1/2 meters and just
- 15:39have them three-step that quickly, quickly, quickly.
- 15:43You may even have progressive lanes if you've got time and
- 15:47space to deal with that. You can say, all right, you're
- 15:48in lane five. Once you give me two good ones,
- 15:51you can graduate to lane six. Once you give me a couple good
- 15:53ones, we can graduate to lane seven.
- 15:55OK, the men I top out at or sorry, the men top out at 9
- 16:00meters again, 30 feet I often train at.
- 16:05Well, I'll talk about this on the next slide.
- 16:08Build your hurdlers confidence by telling them that we never
- 16:11ever train at the regular spacing.
- 16:14OK, this is a major mental block for a lot of hurdlers.
- 16:17They go well, if I'm not practicing at the regular
- 16:20distance, how am I going to know if I can actually make it in
- 16:22time for the race? It's like, because we are
- 16:24training your body to be able to run fast through the hurdles,
- 16:28OK, we never ever, ever ever train at actual race spacing.
- 16:34Also a thing to think about, once we get into more advanced
- 16:37hurdling, it just becomes math. It becomes a math problem.
- 16:41It's going to take about 2 1/2 seconds, maybe 3 seconds to get
- 16:45to the first hurdle from the blocks and it's going to take
- 16:48about 1 1/2, maybe 2 seconds to get from the last hurdle to the
- 16:52finish line. So then the question becomes if
- 16:55I've got, if I've got 2.7 and 1.5, that's what, 4.3.
- 17:02And if I want to run the rest of the, if I want to run 14 three,
- 17:06that means I got to do the rest of the hurdles in like 9/9,
- 17:10right? Which then you then you can
- 17:12split that. You can go all right, well, a 16
- 17:14flat kid has to be running splits of 1/2 in order to have a
- 17:18shot in order to not be late. And a kid who runs 14 flat, they
- 17:23better get to a hurdle one and two 6.
- 17:24Otherwise they're late. Of course, this isn't this isn't
- 17:27going to be universal for every athlete, but it's pretty close.
- 17:30It's pretty close. All right, so I think that's
- 17:34about it. I have a clinic that I run.
- 17:38I try to run 1A year. I've done it in Colorado.
- 17:41I've done it in Michigan before. If you would like me to come to
- 17:45your area and host a three-step boot camp, I would be happy to
- 17:48do that. I've got a short little video
- 17:52here highlighting the one a couple years ago.
- 18:20Depends on how you want to do it.
- 18:21It could be a weekend, it could be a week, just depending on,
- 18:25you know, if you want to make it a big event or it could be,
- 18:28again, like a weekend, like a weekend thing.
- 18:34So if we can do it on grass, we can do it on a track.
- 18:36Obviously this school didn't have a track, so we used it on
- 18:39their athletic complex. But really, it's about the
- 18:42distances. If anything, these athletes are
- 18:45at a bit more of a disadvantage because we're not on the track.
- 18:48But that's fine. We got it done.
- 18:50We got it done. OK, how nice.
- 18:59All right, folks, that is. That's all I've got.
- 19:01I really want to open it to the room if anybody has any
- 19:04questions or, oh, real quick, small plug.
- 19:07I work for the University of Dubuque.
- 19:09We are a powerhouse D3 program. My men's team beat the
- 19:13University of Michigan four by one team last year.
- 19:16We are about 2 1/2 hours from this hotel here.
- 19:20I probably am recruiting some of your athletes right now.
- 19:23In fact, if you know that you've got a former athlete that runs
- 19:26for me right now, I would love to talk to you afterwards just
- 19:28to connect on that athlete. But I am really, really trying
- 19:33to continue this program, the men's program.
- 19:36We finished 9th in the nation last year.
- 19:38I'm trying. This is my second year.
- 19:39I'm just trying not to break it. The women's team it got, I think
- 19:44we peaked at 14, but we're certainly not as high as the
- 19:47men. My number one priority is
- 19:49getting girls into the program so that our women's team can be
- 19:51as good as our men. So if you've got an athlete that
- 19:54you think might be, you know, University of Dubuque caliber, I
- 19:58would love to connect with you after that.
- 20:01Thank you very much. Hey gang, Mike Cunningham here.
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