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Early National League Central favorites: Where do Cards stand? · Cardinal Territory: A St. Louis Cardinals Podcast

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: What's up. He's Trevor Rosenthal.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Katie Wu. Welcome back to Cardinal Territory, Trevor. I
• 0:09
  Speaker 2: feel like I haven't seen you in a thousand years,
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  Speaker 2: but it's really only been a week.
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  Speaker 3: How are you well, Katie. Good to see I'm glad
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  Speaker 3: you missed me. That makes me feel good. How's how's
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  Speaker 3: our show doing? I mean, we're still in business, so
• 0:20
  Speaker 3: must be doing all right.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, We're doing okay.
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  Speaker 2: We are doing okay, and that's I think the bar right, like,
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  Speaker 2: just do okay. And again, unfortunately, our loyal listeners and viewers,
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  Speaker 2: we still don't have any news for you, but that's okay.
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  Speaker 2: What's really being tested is the creativity between you and
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  Speaker 2: I for this podcast, because we are rapidly running out
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  Speaker 2: of new topics. But the good news is is as
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: of our record day Monday, January twenty seventh, two weeks
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  Speaker 2: from today, I will be heading to Jupiter for the
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  Speaker 2: start of spring training.
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  Speaker 1: So baseball season is very near.
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  Speaker 2: I personally don't feel like it is, Trevor, do you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the gauge for me was always the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: So now that we're through the league championships and the
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowls in a couple of weeks. Now, that was
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  Speaker 3: always the gauge. So the fact that the next football
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  Speaker 3: game is the Super Bowl. I mean, you know, as
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  Speaker 3: a baseball player going in the off season, like once
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  Speaker 3: the Super Bowls being played, you're like you're sitting there
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  Speaker 3: with your buddies and having a good time. You're like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, this is gonna be maybe the last time
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  Speaker 3: I'm this relaxed for the next eight months. So the
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowl, Yeah, I mean, it's around the corner. We're
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  Speaker 3: getting there.
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  Speaker 1: I know, it's so scary.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, January has seemed like eight weeks long.
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  Speaker 2: But I think one of the reasons why I don't
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  Speaker 2: feel like baseball season is so soon is because there
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  Speaker 2: are so many free agents still unsigned, like Pete Alonso,
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  Speaker 2: who knows Alex Bregman.
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  Speaker 1: That's been a big thing.
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  Speaker 2: We've been monitoring Jack Flaherty, former Cardinal still not signed
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  Speaker 2: and all these big names. I mean, we're used to
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  Speaker 2: it now with baseball. Maybe those off season editions kind
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  Speaker 2: of trickling into January. But I think we're doing the
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  Speaker 2: sport in disservice by having so many free agents unclaimed
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  Speaker 2: with two weeks to go until pitchers and catchers. So
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  Speaker 2: maybe that's why I think there's just so many things
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  Speaker 2: still undecided in baseball in general, but especially for the Cardinals,
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  Speaker 2: where I'm like, no, we can't really be this close,
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  Speaker 2: can we?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I agree. I mean baseball has does a lot
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  Speaker 3: of things, well, free agent signings is not one of them.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of frustrating to sit here and have so
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  Speaker 3: many guys still on the market, so many guys, Like
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  Speaker 3: we could start a whole other league with these free
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  Speaker 3: agents that are available and.
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  Speaker 2: Be a good league.
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  Speaker 1: It'd be like a pretty good team, I think.
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  Speaker 3: I think, so we could compete.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something, But since we're so close to baseball,
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  Speaker 2: and granted these rosters are going to change before opening Day,
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  Speaker 2: figured we might as well preview the always interesting, definitely
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  Speaker 2: not normal National League Central. Of all the divisions in baseball,
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  Speaker 2: I think the Ennell Central has been the least competitive
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  Speaker 2: in a grand scheme of things, but very competitive within
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  Speaker 2: its own division because you you have a five teams
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  Speaker 2: that are between eighty to ninety wins each year, and
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  Speaker 2: the NL Central's postseason success over the last five or
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  Speaker 2: six years has not been great. I don't even think
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  Speaker 2: a team from the NL Central has gotten out of
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  Speaker 2: the first round of playoffs since twenty twenty, so.
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  Speaker 1: That's not good.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're the Saint Louis Cardinals and you're sitting
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  Speaker 2: here saying we want to compete next year.
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  Speaker 1: Good news. You can probably still compete in the division.
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  Speaker 2: Now. Is there a difference between competing in the NL
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  Speaker 2: Central and competing in Major League Baseball at large? Yes,
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  Speaker 2: we know this, but anything to sneak into the expanded playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: So let's break into the NL Central.
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  Speaker 2: We'll start first with the Milwaukee Brewers, so have no
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  Speaker 2: fear of Cardinals fans. The Cardinals are not the only
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  Speaker 2: team that have not signed a free agent to a
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  Speaker 2: major league contract. The Brewers have not either, and they've
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  Speaker 2: lost two key pieces to last year's division winning club.
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  Speaker 2: Devin Williams trade into the Yankees and William Johmas signed
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  Speaker 2: a free agent Cup Track in San Francisco. Now, when
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking at the Brewers here, I like their pitching.
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  Speaker 2: Brandon Woodchuf's coming back, Freddy Parolta will be their ace.
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  Speaker 2: Nesta Cortes is a Brewer. I forgot about that. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure they'll be able to figure him out because they
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  Speaker 2: do that with every one of their pitchers. The Brewers
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  Speaker 2: have significant starting pitching depth, and that is a strength.
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  Speaker 2: Noble Adamas hurts he was a catalyst for them last year,
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  Speaker 2: but William contraras he can mash. I like their outfields,
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  Speaker 2: Christian Yellwich when healthy, just going through at Jacksonurio of
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  Speaker 2: course exciting young talent, But when I'm looking at the Brewers,
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  Speaker 2: there are not a lot of household names other than
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  Speaker 2: that Juey Ortiz can play that really jump out at me. However,
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  Speaker 2: given what the Brewers have done over the last four
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  Speaker 2: years through out of four division titles, and the reigning
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  Speaker 2: National League Manager of the Year Pet Murphy, who I
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  Speaker 2: know you're a fan of Trevor, it kind of just
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  Speaker 2: seems like they're.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to figure out a way to be at
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  Speaker 2: the top of the division because they always do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I mean, those are definitely some piece
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  Speaker 3: is that will Well well, they're gonna miss. But listening
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  Speaker 3: to you and and Kyle talking the last episode and
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  Speaker 3: kind of dissecting players and looking at metrics and statistics,
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  Speaker 3: there's one thing that you guys said that kind of
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  Speaker 3: took me by surprise. You talked about like the makeup
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  Speaker 3: and the personalities of players, and that's something you said,
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  Speaker 3: it k It gets overlooked. It's really hard to quantify.
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  Speaker 3: But for me, that's why I like a guy like
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  Speaker 3: Pat Murphy so much. He brings obviously a unique skill set,
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  Speaker 3: being so successful at Arizona State and and now coming
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  Speaker 3: off a yeah there we go that hits home coming
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  Speaker 3: off the NL Manager of the Year award. He's obviously
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  Speaker 3: doing something right over there. And I spent a little
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  Speaker 3: time with Milwaukee. I didn't make it on the field,
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  Speaker 3: but I was in the clubhouse, in the organization around
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  Speaker 3: the team, and they do a really good job. I
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  Speaker 3: think they have a great fan base. You know, Milwaukee
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  Speaker 3: supports the sports teams very well, and for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Milwaukee, like you said, has been able to
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  Speaker 3: figure it out. And I would imagine in a division
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  Speaker 3: where there's not really any teams pulling away in terms
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  Speaker 3: of the offseason and making signings, they're still going to
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  Speaker 3: be right in the mix. You know, ten ten games
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  Speaker 3: about everybody else the second place teams last year. So
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  Speaker 3: but I don't know. Adamis is a good player. Williams
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  Speaker 3: phenomenal pitcher, phenomenal bullpen piece, good additions for the Yankees
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  Speaker 3: with him. But yeah, we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: It's frustrating to me, not really frustrating. It's perplexing to
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  Speaker 2: me how the Brewers just keep getting away with this
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  Speaker 2: because last.
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  Speaker 1: Year they cut payroll.
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  Speaker 2: Craig Council like pulled the rug out from everyone and
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  Speaker 2: was like, see, yah, I'm going to Chicago and they.
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  Speaker 1: Weren't supposed to be that good.
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  Speaker 2: And then their rotation was absolutely decimated by injuries early
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  Speaker 2: on in the year, and they responded by going virtually
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  Speaker 2: uncontested on top of the NAL Central standings for the
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  Speaker 2: entire year. And I think a lot of that has
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  Speaker 2: to do with Pat Murphy. They had a really dynamic club.
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  Speaker 2: What I remember about the Brewers and watching them against
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  Speaker 2: the Cardinals the twenty times or whatever they played, was
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  Speaker 2: they were just so athletic and they got on base
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  Speaker 2: and they ran, and I think that's some old school
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  Speaker 2: baseball from Pat Murphy there. They definitely had the pieces
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  Speaker 2: to do it. Like I said, a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: names on the forty man roster or the projected opening
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  Speaker 2: day roster aren't like household names. There aren't guys that
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  Speaker 2: you like, pay a ticket to go see Like again,
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  Speaker 2: Joey Orts is a good player, But if you're not
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  Speaker 2: a Brewers fan, you're not throwing your money to go
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  Speaker 2: watch Joey Orts play. But that's what the Brewers do
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  Speaker 2: really well, and they consistently get away with it. So yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's if you're a Milwaukee Brewers fan. It is definitely
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  Speaker 2: really tough to see Willie Domas and Devin Williams go,
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  Speaker 2: but you can take some comfort in knowing ay, the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the division hasn't done that much either, and
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  Speaker 2: b the Brewers are still the favorites because of their
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  Speaker 2: track record over the last four years.
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  Speaker 1: It's athleticism.
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  Speaker 2: Man, When you have a roster like the Brewers last year,
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  Speaker 2: you can win a lot of ball games in ways
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  Speaker 2: that a lot of people don't really think. So that's
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  Speaker 2: a that's the Brewers. Hopefully Brewers fans have more things
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  Speaker 2: to talk about. Feel like they're very similar with the Cardinals.
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  Speaker 2: But one team that's had a lot to talk about,
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  Speaker 2: especially lately, the Chicago Cubs. And yes, I know this
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  Speaker 2: is a Cardinals podcast, but we have to give credit
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  Speaker 2: where credit is due.
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  Speaker 1: I think the Cubs have had a good off season
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  Speaker 1: so far.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they traded Cody Bellinger, but that was something that
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  Speaker 2: I think was kind of expected that they were going
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  Speaker 2: to do, and they did it relatively early. But more
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  Speaker 2: if you're looking at not the Pirates hold on the Cubs,
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  Speaker 2: they had the big trade of obviously acquiring Kyle Tucker,
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  Speaker 2: and even though this trade is not official yet, they
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  Speaker 2: did a trade for Ryan Presley as well. They signed
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  Speaker 2: Matt Boyd some rotation depth piece, and Ezac Partis has
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  Speaker 2: gone as well part of that Kyle Tucker trade. So
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  Speaker 2: looking at the Cubs roster right now, I like the
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  Speaker 2: Cubs rotation. Here's my confession. I'm a huge Showda girl.
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  Speaker 1: He's arguably maybe.
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  Speaker 2: My favorite picture at least in the National League in
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  Speaker 2: the game. I think he is so fun, so dynamic.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna check my bias because it was up to me,
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  Speaker 2: he'd be number one in my power rankings. But even
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  Speaker 2: with that aside, I like Justin Steele, Jamison Taion, and
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  Speaker 2: I think again Matthew Boyd as at depth piece. That's
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  Speaker 2: a solid rotation for the NL central. The bullpen obviously
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  Speaker 2: is going to be much better with Ryan Presley potentially
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  Speaker 2: being their closer. Nate Pearson's a good setup guy. And
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  Speaker 2: then I'm looking at the roster here the position players,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not seeing outside of Kyle Tucker a lot
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  Speaker 2: of thump. And I think that's the main concern for
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  Speaker 2: the Cubs. For me is I think they have the
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  Speaker 2: pitching lockdown. Kyle Tucker again, great trade. What else can
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  Speaker 2: they do here to make sure that their lineup has
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  Speaker 2: the offensive production that they need?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like I like the I like Presley a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that. I mean's he's no Ryan Helsley. The
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  Speaker 3: Cardinals definitely win in that category. And it's not even
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  Speaker 3: it's not even really close. But when you look at
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  Speaker 3: their you know, when you add a guy like Presley,
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  Speaker 3: he just notches everybody down another slot. And it seems
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  Speaker 3: like I think they saw that maybe they were a
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  Speaker 3: runner up in the in the Tanner Scott sweepstakes, and
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  Speaker 3: so I'm I'm happy that they made that addition because frankly,
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  Speaker 3: they kind of needed it and the need they needed it,
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  Speaker 3: and they have a young prospect that I'm excited to
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  Speaker 3: watch pitches here. The Porter Hodge he filled in late
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  Speaker 3: in the late in the late innings last year, and
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  Speaker 3: so giving him a guy like that that's really their
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  Speaker 3: closer for the future, potentially giving him a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of leeway and bringing a guy like Presley. I'm excited
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  Speaker 3: for that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, it's not like the Cubs are going
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  Speaker 2: to be bad. I think the way that the rosters
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: are constructed from all five teams right now, the Cubs
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: would maybe have the advantage. They are still in the
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  Speaker 2: mix for Alex Bregman from what we've seen on the reporting.
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  Speaker 2: If they happened to land both Tucker and Bregman, then
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  Speaker 2: I think they automatically go to number one in our
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  Speaker 2: power rankings, and that'd be a huge addition for them.
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  Speaker 2: You're suddenly not worried about the offense all that much anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And look, it's not like guys like Dancy Swanton and
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  Speaker 2: Nico Horner can't produce.
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  Speaker 1: They can.
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  Speaker 2: It's just slug matters so much in the game now
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  Speaker 2: and to have that reliant on Kyle Tucker is not
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  Speaker 2: my favorite thing in the world.
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  Speaker 1: I do think the Cubs have.
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  Speaker 2: A pretty underrated player in Pete crow Armstrong. I think
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  Speaker 2: he got a little bit of love last season, but
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  Speaker 2: my prediction for the Chicago Cubs is that he will
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  Speaker 2: break out next year, But I mentioned to see what
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: the Cubs do up until our opening day at least,
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  Speaker 2: because I do think that they are players for Alex Bregman.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: And they've been active, right you said it, Tanner Scott,
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  Speaker 2: they were runner ups. They've definitely tried to spend. I
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  Speaker 2: think they're in a similar place with the Cardinals on
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  Speaker 2: their payroll, but they've certainly done a much better job
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  Speaker 2: of spending, considering the Cardinals haven't spent at all. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm not out on the Cubs, I think so far.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll get to the Reds and the Pirates. The
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  Speaker 2: Cubs have had a pretty formidable off season and have
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  Speaker 2: certainly done enough to increase.
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  Speaker 1: Their chances to win the division.
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  Speaker 2: If you are an organization like the Chicago Cubs, so
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  Speaker 2: much history, you play in a great city, you should
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  Speaker 2: be trying to win as often as possible. So Jeed Hoyer,
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  Speaker 2: I think has done a nice job so far in
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's get back to it. Let's talk about the Reds.
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  Speaker 1: They're interesting.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of the twenty twenty four season, they
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: canned David Bell. They brought in Terry Francona, So that
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: was already I thought exciting or interesting because I didn't
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: really know where Terry Francona stood on returning to managing.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously a very.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: Accomplished manager, very respected throughout the game, and as someone
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: who doesn't watch a lot of American League Baseball, I
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: didn't really get a chance to see what he did
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: and how he managed with the Guardians. So I'm excited
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: to see how that changes how the Reds play next year.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: This year, whatever, they made some key ads early on.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: They got Brady Singer from the Royals in a trade
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: that sent Johnathan India to Kansas City. They resigned Nick
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Martinez and traded for Gavin Lux. Losing India I think
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: is not as big of a deal as it might
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  Speaker 2: seem because they have so much infield depth. Looking at
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: the Reds Now, I think what plagued them early in
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: the year was they just got slammed with injuries. So
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: you're looking at guys these young players like Spencer Steer,
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: Matt McClain, nouelbe Marte is back from his suspension, Ellie
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: de la Cruz, Christian and Cardosian Strand. These are all
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: players that I think have really high ceilings. But what
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: I like about the Reds the most is their rotation.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: Hunter Green is a dude, Brady Singer will slot right
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  Speaker 2: in there, probably number two, and then you have Nick
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Martinez for the experience.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Andrew Abbott is a guy. Graham Ashcraft. I swear the
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Cardinals see him like thirty times a year.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: It's not even mathematically possible, but he pitches against them
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: all the time, and he's got nasty stuff.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: So I always get excited about the.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Reds because I feel like they just have so many
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: young pieces that they will take off, but then every
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: year they don't. So I'm not quite sure how to
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: feel about them.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like too with their with their infield
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: outfield position players. Looks like some flexibility too, which you know,
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: mixing a guy like Francona who's got a lot of
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: experience having some young flexibility, good starting rotation. Looks like
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: a decent, decent bullpen. There's there's some guys out there.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of Amelia Pagon and I think
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: he can be a good leader, good veteran presence in
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: that bullpen. But yeah, so a mix of you know,
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: a veteran leader and Terry Francona and some of this
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: flexibility and I mean Ellie Day Ellie Day La Cruz
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: is so fun to watch, what a what a cool player.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: And we still have all these free agents a bit available. Ky,
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: we're gonna have to like maybe recap on this or
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: re up our review in a couple of weeks.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Well that's gonna be timely because the Cardinals probably still
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: won't have done anything, so we're gonna need new material.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: So when we run back this exact same episode in
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: three weeks, just just roll with it.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Part two to an update. Yeah, I like the Reds.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: I like what you said their versatility.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: They certainly have the lineup to essentially roll out two
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: different types depending on your opposing starter. And again, versatility
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: depth that all comes into especially this day and age
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: and the way the game is played now that translates
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: to wins.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: The Brewers do a good job of this, So.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I'm cautiously optimistic about the Reds and we'll see. And
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: another thing about that that playing in Cincinnati is you're
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: basically playing in this miniature ballpark.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: So even if you have like average power. Those balls
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: are gonna fly.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: So I'm not I'm again cautiously in on Cincinnati. Let
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: me tell you an organization I'm caught like, not in
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm sorry.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Every year I want to get excited about the Pirates,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: and they have a fantastic rotation.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Paul Skeens, we.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Know what he is, Mitch Keller, Jared Jones, these are
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: guys that people should get behind. Bailey Falters done some
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: nice work, and Johann Oviedo former Cardinals, should be a
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: contender for that fifth spot. And with all due respect
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: to Andrew McCutcheon, who I am a huge fan of
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: even growing up as a teenager in college.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I love watching Angel McCutcheon.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Nothing really else in that on that roster excites me. Yes,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I think O'Neil Cruz and Kabrian Hayes are extreme talents
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: and I like watching them play baseball, But this is
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: not a roster I can get excited about.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Their day is still coming, that's for sure. They very
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: much have committed to the draft and development phase of
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: building an organization, and they just happened to be stuck
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: there for a little while. But maybe Paul Skeens is
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: the light. Maybe he's a crack in the surface, and
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: maybe this year we'll see some young studs start to emerge.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I hope.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: So I will say I like going a panc park.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: It's a very picturesque ballpark. I love the little bar
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: across the street called Redbeards.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Fantastic. I've never had a bad night at Red Beards.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: But what was so cool is after you go to
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: these Cardinals Pirates games and you're in Pittsburgh for seven
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: to eight games the year, you get accustomed to the
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: kind of environment there. You're talking like eight ten thousand fans.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: If it's a day game, forget about it. It's an
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: empty ballpark. But I was in Pittsburgh in August for
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: a Paul Skeene's home start on a Tuesday night, and
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: it was electric. It was like a two to one
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: ball game. Skins is about to go into the nine
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: for the first time, and the Cardinals did win, but
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: that crowd was invested in every single pitch, and I
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: got me thinking like, this could be Pirates baseball because
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: the fans will show up. I mean, Paul Skans. Even
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: if you're a casual sports fan in general, you're gonna
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: go on to pay to see that. But watching the
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: city show up on a Tuesday night, the stands were
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: all black and yellow. It was a really fun atmosphere
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: that I hadn't seen at P and C Park in August,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: maybe ever on this job.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: So I want that for Pittsburgh.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I want them to be that excited fan base where
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: you go out and you pack the house on a Tuesday,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: that's when baseball is at its best. I just think
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: they're a little far from that.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when Andrew McCutchen is your key signing of the
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: off season. Andrew Cutch is great, like you said, great player,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: great human being, but he is far from his prime.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: So it would be nice. I mean, if we could
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: relive the glory days, go back to your high school years, Katie,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: and get that Pirates roster, I think we have a
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: lot more excited. That'd be a more exciting roster to
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: have behind a guy like Paul Skins than we're what
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: we're looking at right now.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: It's just if their game plan is that their starting
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: rotation and their bullpen.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Their bullpen is not bad.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I know David Benner had a down hear there is
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: this believer and I'm like fifty percent sure. I'm saying
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: his name right, Carmen Litzinski. He's nasty. If he's on
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: a higher like a bigger team, bigger market, we're talking
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: about him, he's I think a very underrated piece. I
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: remember he came out and just threw gas and walked
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: into Olie Marml's office and he was like, what the
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: heck was that talking about the reliever.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I don't know, he was. He was disgusting.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: So I don't want to be a true, like a
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: total Pirates hater. But if their plan is to essentially
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: their pitching staff allowed two runs a game and they
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: win three two, that's sure, because I don't think they
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: have an offense that's going to give them anything more
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: than that.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I guess we have to see if the Cardinals
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: can do more than that also, So yeah, you're.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: All right about that.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: That's my biggest question for the Cardinals.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Obviously we're not going to preview them here because we
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: preview them every episode. But I'm torn on this. The
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Cardinals won eighty three games last year with the second
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: worst offense in the National League. They were right around
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: the same as the Miami Marlins, which is hard to do.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: It's actually impressive to be that bad.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: But again, they won eighty three games. They did that
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: half with an electric bullpen.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about the Hellsley Kitchridge, Jojo Romeril Combo,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: and I think Olie Marmel, Dusty Blake, the bullpen catchers
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: did a wonderful job and that cohesiveness in the bullpen
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: and making sure that these guys were used effectively. But
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: if the Cardinals hit just a little better, if they
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: hit league average, I think they win five to six
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: more games, and all of a sudden, you're talking about rivalry,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: and you know, the Brewers the top of the division
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: or maybe even sneaking into that wildcard spot. So do
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I think the Cardinals can contend in the division?
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Do I understand fans frustrations that competing in the NAL
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Central is not like competing for a legit World Series.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I do, and I agree with you. But I think
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: with the expanded playoffs, you've seen a lot of teams
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: this division, in particular, hoping that eighty five wins will
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: get you in, and in years past it has most
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: of the time. So the Cardinals are not my pick
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: to win the division. That's not to say that I
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: don't believe that they can compete in it.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Again, I do, but my pick, I'm torn.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Brewers because they have the track record
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: and it's been their division since twenty twenty one. Really,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: but I would not be surprised Cardinals fans don't habe
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: if the Cubs make a legitimate run with the way
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: that the rosters stand currently as of today, is this.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: My turn is? But is this my turn to pick?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Before people like start turning off the camera because I
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: said Cubs.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Well, the Cubs do make a compelling argument. I'm mainly
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: because I'm a big fan of Kyle Tucker. Watching him
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: in Houston. He is insane. I mean, he's like the
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: real deal, power hitting, left handed, left handed batter. But
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: I mean you make a good point, Katie, Like going
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: from the worst hitting team in the league to just
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: the middle of the pack. I mean that's at least
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: five games, maybe more. Maybe the Cardinals do have a chance.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Maybe we should listen to these this this excitement that
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: that's around the team. Maybe I'm gonna go with the Cardinals.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: We're winning we're winning the division this year, Katie. I'm
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: riding I'm riding this this positive train. I'm not getting
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: off it. This is only the second week since I've
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: gotten on it. So I have to remain on the
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: positive train. The Cardinals, We're gonna make this adjustment. We
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: got a new hitting coach, got some new philosophies. Jordan Walker.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: This is his year. You'll that. I mean, you're dreaming
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: about that every single night, right, I mean, so yeah,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: let's go. We're gonna We're gonna surprise some people.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: All right. So you lasted much longer on the positivity
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: trade than I did. I think I lasted three days.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: And to be clear, I'm not like negative. I'm not
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: going into Jupiter like, oh my gosh, blowed this place up.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Of course not.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to be objective and reasonable. But uh,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: there has to be a good cop bad cop. So
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I'll gladly for this role.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Again.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's impossible, but a lot of things
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: have to go right. It's a lot of ifs, it's
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: a lot of players taking a step up. It's if
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Jordan Walker hits the way that they think he does,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: if Nolan Gorman can get that Shrek out right down,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: if Lars new Bark can stay healthy, if our starting
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: pitching prospects pan out, then we'll have a shot. It's
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: a lot of ifs, but there are a lot of
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: ifs on the four other teams as well. So I've
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: long named the NL Central the the UH Division of Mediocre,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: and I hope I'm wrong, but I will say I
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: think it'll be compelling baseball in the division because all
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: these teams currently constructed look like they could be like
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: eighty wins, eighty five wins on a good one, but
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: also like seventy losses. I'm sorry, seventy five wins if
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: they have like the reverse effect of their season.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: So I just don't know.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know anything.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Trevor's that's what we should get out of this episode.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: You know, Katy, you know more than me, but I
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: get the benefit of the doubt. I'm not the pro here.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: You've been doing this, You've been digging in deep for
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: a long time, and I agree. I mean, Chicago on paper,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: they look pretty good. So we're gonna have our work
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: cut out for us. But that's what the season's for.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: It'll be fun and soon we will have everyday baseball action.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: And I am excited, honestly to go to spring training
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: and see where each player is at. You know, we
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: talked to most of them at winter warm up, but
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: it's different when you walk into Roger Dean and that
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: clubhouse that they still haven't remodeled that's allegedly coming and
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: just kind of seeing those guys so their first bullpens
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: and seeing it's like a different.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Kind of mentality.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: So excited to see the position battles, Excited to see
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: how a lot of the young guys I think are
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: going to be forming the bullpen, and that to me
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: is exciting because I think that's where the most opportunity
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: is is for these young players, is the bullpen.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: So we'll see how it goes from there.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: And you know what, when we do this exact same
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: episode in four weeks, because things will have undoudly changed,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: maybe I'll have a different opinion. Right now, I'm riding
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: with the Brewers and your team, Cardinals, you're a good form.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Are we going to see Aeronado in spring training? What's
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: your Have you shifted?
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: No? I still think we're going to see him.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: I think we're going to see it.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: I just don't see Alex Bregman's siding before spring training starts.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: And you know, obviously we know Scott Boris does not
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: mind taking negotiations until late February early March. He's been
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: the best for his client. I don't know comments there,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: but yeah, and I don't think that's going to be
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: good for anyone because what it absolutely is going to do,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: it's gonna put Nolan in a bad spot. The Cardinals
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: have tried to trade him for four months and now
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: he has to come to Jupiter after Moe has said
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: multiple times how much he does not want him here,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: and he's gonna have.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: To answer a bunch of tough questions.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: And I think no one just wants to play baseball,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: So wouldn't be the best case scenario for anyone involved, team, player,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: you name it. But I still think we'll see him now.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: The question for me is will he be here at
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: the end of spring training, And that's where I think
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: we'll have a different answer.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: But again, the Nolan's.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Situation, despite having zero traction, my opinion changes on it
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: all the time, so I'm sure next week I have
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: a completely different aspect on.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: It, for sure.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Well, what about what about Wilson Contraras. So this thought
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: came to my mind recently. Was it last year or
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: the year before where they said, oh, Contras is not
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: catching anymore, he's playing first base, and then a few
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: weeks after that he was catching again. What are the
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: chances we see Wilson Contrasts behind the plate this year? Oh?
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: See when I asked Mo that in November and he
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: said close to zero and paraphrasing, but it was clear
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: that that wasn't a plan for him. So he's gonna
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: bring his gear just in case. That's what he said
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: at winter warm up. But I think it would have
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: things have to go seriously wrong for us to the
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Controrasts behind the plate.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: But you can't pretty ball.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: As we know, because I would not have expected Wilson
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Contraras to be moved to first base five weeks into
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: his Cardinal's tenure when they signed him for eighty seven
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: million dollars to catch.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's fun.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: It's always fun covering this organization and figuring out what
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: exactly they're doing.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Well, we throw Aeronauto in the mix, and this is
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: why I was thinking of it. If Aeronauda is taking
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: up the spot at third base, and they want to
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: get somebody else in playing time. And then all of
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: a sudden, you know, maybe it looks appealing to put
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Contrasts back behind the plate to open up first base
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: for another player.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I thought was going to happen in
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: the first place. I thought Alec Burlson when the Cardinals
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: told Paul Goalshmi at the end of the year they
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: weren't going to bring him back. I thought Burlson was
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: going to take over a first base And I know
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: that Burley is a bat first guy, but first base
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: seems the most logical position for him other than DH
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: And then Conturers moved to first base, and I was like,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: what does.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: That mean for Burlison?
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: And this goes back to last last week's episode where
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: there are just so many supplementary pieces and not a
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: clear way to use them consistently. That's another thing I'll
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: be monitoring in spring training. And look at you, Trevor,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: getting me excited to go back to work.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Well, my last question is what is the issue with
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Cantras's behind the plane? Like he seems from my perspective,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: like a guy that I would want to throw to,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Like he seems like a pretty good catcher.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Well he's a gamer, right, But the big thing that
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: for the Cardinals and for Wilson was prolonging his health.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: So in May last year we saw the incident where
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: he broke his hand out stretching to receive the ball
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: without six eight weeks and then was heard again on
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: hip being hit by pitch. That's more of a freak accident.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: As Contrarast gets into his mid thirties, they want him
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: to stay as healthy as possible. Having two young catchers
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: and Evon Herrera and Pedro Pahaz made them more comfortable
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: in moving him to first base.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: They really like Contraras's.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Bat in the lineup, and we saw it last year
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: when he was injured that offense really took a die
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: if it was not good.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: So it's twofold. It allows better.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Uh more consistent playing time for Paz and Herrera, but
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: it also should keep Contraras, or at least they hope
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: it will keep him more healthy.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Look, there are a lot of things to get into.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: When we actually get to pictures and catchers and looking
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: at rosters and position battles, we'll see we will see.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Just I just picture that we're going to walk up.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: You're gonna walk up to the six pack on day
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: one of spring training and Quinn Matthews is going to
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: be throwing a bullpen to Wilson Contrera's and you're just
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: gonna have to throw all your notes out the window.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Nothing will compare to when I think it was twenty
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: twenty two. The lockout had just ended, but we were
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: already there for the minor league camp. So they opened
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  Speaker 2: the complex for us, and the first day of like
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: everyone reporting, and no one's had any talk with any
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  Speaker 2: players because they couldn't during the lockout. If you were
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: medical personnel from the team, you could not talk to
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: the players. And I look at the little chart, you
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: know how they stapleed the schedule to the wall, and
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at every picture and I don't see Jack
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Flaherty and I was like, okay. So I go walking
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: in the office and I get a bunch of non
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: answers is what I call them, And I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you guys are bad liars.
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  Speaker 1: And what do we find out? The next day?
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Jack Clarty and Alex Rays are hurt, and it's news
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  Speaker 2: to the Cardinals because they had no idea because they
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: couldn't really talk to him, and nothing surprises me anymore
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: after that. Really, it's you're never bored covering major League baseball.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: You are never bored, especially covering the Saint Louis Cardinals,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: and I'm lucky to do so, and I'm lucky to
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: hang out with you.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: This is the best part.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Hey, same here, Katie. I feel the same way. I'm
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: getting more and more excited about this every single day,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: and especially I mean, once we have some like baseball
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: to cover, I'm going to be more excited. So it's
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: been a pleasure. Thank you. Thank you for considering me
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  Speaker 3: for this too. I mean, you've had on some great
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: guests when I'm not here, but I feel lucky. I'm
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: the regular, and I feel fortunate that you thought of
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: me for this to help you out. O.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: No, it's because, like I said, I told you this before.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: We follow each other on Instagram and you're always doing podcasts.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I'm an avid Instagram story watcher and listening to your stuff,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, this guy can bring it. And
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I don't have any experience as a major league pitture obviously,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: and I think that's so valuable when you're talking about
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: the game Look, I can sit here and give you
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: the reasoning behind a transaction or a pitchy move or
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: playing time, but you can offer real time experience that
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I cannot. And it's I'm so excited when we have
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: actual games to break down to hear your perspective on
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: a decision or how a player handles something. See now, okay,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I'm in a better mood, better attitude. Now you have
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: me pumped up for my workout because both this is
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: a healthy podcast here on Cardinal Territory. Both Trevor and
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: I are going to the gym after this because we're
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: healthy and we're fit, right, and.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Then we're going to eat our Hello fresh meal to
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: end our day before we get our recovery.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: All right, this is Cardinal Territory. You can follow us
• 32:46
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• 32:48
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• 32:52
  Speaker 2: We'll have another episode for you at the end of
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: the week, and soon we'll start ramping up to three
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: times a week. I don't know exactly when, but it's
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: on my list of things to figure out, so hopefully
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I will actually do that for Trevor Resenthal I'm Katie
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  Speaker 2: Wu thanks for watching.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: We'll talk soon.