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The Insiders Podcast: Unresolved Contracts Heading into Training Camp · NFL Game Previews

• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Welcome inside with the insiders alongside Mike Garafollo. I am
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: Tom Pellicero. It is July first, and you know what
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: that means. No, not just Canada Dale, though we'll have
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  Speaker 1: Stacey Dial's with us shortly here to talk about the
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: Packers and the Bears. We can now say every NFL
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: team reports to training camp by the end of this month,
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: and we get a jam pack show for you as
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: we kick things off here with sixty six days until kickoff.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: Brian Burns the new Giants pass rusher going to join
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: our Brian Baldinger at the Sack Summit. We'll have Paris Johnson,
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: Cardinals tackle on the show. What's he seen so far
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: from his old Ohio state buddy Marvin Arrison Junior. We'll
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: talk to him about that. We'll talk about the Colts,
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about the Texans, we'll talk about the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 1: But let's begin, as we have so often this offseason,
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: with a little bit of wide receiver drama and not necessary.
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  Speaker 1: The guy that you're thinking about Dolphins start Tyreek Hill.
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  Speaker 1: He's got two real years and about forty three million
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: dollars left on the contract that reset the market two
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  Speaker 1: years ago. He confirmed today to all these other wide
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  Speaker 1: receivers getting paid.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, he'd like to get paid again. Very you know,
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  Speaker 2: proud of those guys.
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  Speaker 3: You're happy for obviously my team mcwadall, you know, getting
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  Speaker 3: his new deal. So for guys like me, that's great.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm thirty years old, you know, also looking
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  Speaker 3: for a new deal, so very very excited to see
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  Speaker 3: where you know, I'll feed in to like that category.
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  Speaker 1: With right, So you rewind the clock to twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 1: Mike and we were talking about Davonte Adams. He got
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  Speaker 1: the big deal. It was twenty five on paper, it
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  Speaker 1: was really like twenty two and change. Then Tyreek beats
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  Speaker 1: that and it's thirty. It's really twenty five. But here
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  Speaker 1: we are a couple of years later, Justin Jefferson gets
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  Speaker 1: thirty five million dollars per year. It probably shouldn't surprise
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  Speaker 1: anybody that, with just several weeks left until training can here.
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  Speaker 2: If you're listing off the top.
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  Speaker 1: Stories need to get resolved before camps open, a handful
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  Speaker 1: of them right now are the wide receivers. I'll start
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  Speaker 1: with Tyreek, and I still think that the easiest fix
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  Speaker 1: here and something that they're going to explore as a
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  Speaker 1: possible option here for the size here is to borrow
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  Speaker 1: off of that forty five million dollar number that he's
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  Speaker 1: got in twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: That was never meant to be a real year.
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  Speaker 4: That number was put in there to inflate the overall
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  Speaker 4: value of the deal.
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  Speaker 2: It's not guaranteed money, so you.
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  Speaker 4: Could take that and you can knock that down. Let's
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  Speaker 4: say you knock it down by I'm going to pick
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  Speaker 4: a number fifteen, right, you get it down to thirty,
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  Speaker 4: and you take that fifteen million, and you could spread
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  Speaker 4: it out over.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty four and twenty five.
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  Speaker 4: You could do it in the form of incentives maybe
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  Speaker 4: however you want to do it. But in return, the
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  Speaker 4: Dolphins could pick up an extra year on the contract,
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  Speaker 4: because now that is a reasonable number that they could
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  Speaker 4: potentially keep him at in twenty twenty six, and he
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  Speaker 4: gets his raise and maybe he's got to work for
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  Speaker 4: it a little bit along the next couple of years.
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  Speaker 4: That to me is the most reasonable option. The problem
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  Speaker 4: is you need that pressure point to make it happen.
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  Speaker 4: It's either the start of training camp and the thread
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  Speaker 4: of whether it's Tyreek Hill or any of these other
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  Speaker 4: guys we're talking about the threat of a possible holdout
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  Speaker 4: or the start of the season where the player is
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  Speaker 4: gonna want it done before he sets foot on the
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  Speaker 4: field to get a little bit more security. I think
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  Speaker 4: that's an option for Tyreek Hill. As it pertains to
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  Speaker 4: Brandon Ayuk in San Francisco, this is going to be
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  Speaker 4: more of a extension than a play with the numbers, move.
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  Speaker 2: Stop up type of deal.
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  Speaker 4: Is he gonna be with the forty nine ers long
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  Speaker 4: term or is he not going to be with the
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  Speaker 4: forty nine ers long term? Is he going to have
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  Speaker 4: to play out this year? Is going to be potentially
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  Speaker 4: playing for the team he's playing against? Right there, he
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  Speaker 4: has alluded to the fact that he thinks he's going
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  Speaker 4: to be with the Niners in some form of fashion
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  Speaker 4: in twenty four if not with the Commanders or with
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  Speaker 4: the Steelers. For Ayuk in the forty nine Ers, they
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  Speaker 4: had conversations recently. They're no closer to a deal from
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  Speaker 4: my understanding, but they're also no closer to a trade request.
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  Speaker 2: That's never been something that he is lord in this case.
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  Speaker 4: Besides, he's got to get back to work sometime before
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  Speaker 4: training camp to see if they can get something done
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  Speaker 4: to have him in San Francisco for the long haul.
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: It is entertaining watching Brandon ayuquhether he's having somebody record
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  Speaker 1: a stage FaceTime with Jaden Daniels, or he's tweeting. He's
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: re fining to things he hears. He's driving up to
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  Speaker 1: the gate at the team facility saying open the bleeping gate.
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  Speaker 1: There's a big show in this. He actually he kind
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: of broke through the fourth wall in that interview that
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  Speaker 1: they did on the Pivot podcast, saying, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: like walking waking up every day and everyone's talking about me.
• 4:33
  Speaker 1: Mom says they're talking about me at work. DMZ's waiting
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  Speaker 1: for me at the airport. I'm trying to use my leverage. Well,
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  Speaker 1: much like fight Club, the first rule of using your
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  Speaker 1: leverage is not saying that you're using your leverage anyway.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see where that one goes. Ceedee Lamb also is
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  Speaker 1: a holdout from Minnie Camp. We'll see whether he shows up.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see if something gets done with Amari Cooper and
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  Speaker 1: the Browns. You got Portland Sutton, he got Jamar Chase.
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  Speaker 1: There is a line of wide receivers, Mike. We'll see
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  Speaker 1: who ends up getting paid. Speaking of Tyreek Hill, he
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: has said he would like to be in the twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight Olympics as the flag football event kicks off
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  Speaker 1: that year. We know who was in the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: four Olympics. You guessed it, the great Simane Biles, once
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  Speaker 1: again making the US women's gymnastics team roster. Her husband
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: at Bears defensive back Jonathan Owen's is saying to Paris
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: to support her. The team has granted him clearance to
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: miss a few days of training camp to go cheer
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: her on to try to pursue some more goals. As
• 5:30
  Speaker 1: we welcome in our own Olympian Stacy Dales along with
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  Speaker 1: Mark Ross.
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  Speaker 2: Stacey. We look at this Bears team.
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  Speaker 1: We've talked so much about Caleb Williams, We've talked so
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  Speaker 1: much about Romadoons, all the parts that they've added on offense.
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  Speaker 1: Big part of their success the second half last year
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  Speaker 1: was the leaps that defense was taken. Tell me more
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  Speaker 1: about what we're seeing on that side of the ball
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  Speaker 1: with Matt Eberflus calling it full time here in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, Tom and Mark, Happy Canada Day. By the way,
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  Speaker 5: I wouldn't missing a few days of training camp and
• 5:59
  Speaker 5: go watch someone files in Paris.
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  Speaker 6: That would be pretty phenomenal. Greatest of all time. Goat
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  Speaker 6: the Chicago Bears.
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  Speaker 5: It'll be a storyline throughout the course of the season,
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  Speaker 5: as you just alluded to with Caleb Williams in this
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  Speaker 5: offense and the evolution there. But I really think right now,
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  Speaker 5: the bread and butter is their defense, and as you
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  Speaker 5: just mentioned, Tom, it just got markedly better. Montes Sweat
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  Speaker 5: impacted it. But having been around them a little bit
• 6:24
  Speaker 5: this offseason, pads are a thing. Right we constantly here
• 6:28
  Speaker 5: they're not in pads. They're not in pads. But there's
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  Speaker 5: a moxie about this group, and as you know, you've
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  Speaker 5: heard from players like Montese Sweat and Tremade Edmunds, the linebacker,
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  Speaker 5: that there's a carryover. I really think when you look
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  Speaker 5: at this unit in its totality, they tied for first
• 6:44
  Speaker 5: in interceptions, right you see the takeaways there in the
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  Speaker 5: lower third, tied for fifth in that category overall. But
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  Speaker 5: they were also the best rush defense in football. Here's
• 6:53
  Speaker 5: where they have to get better.
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  Speaker 6: They were bottom five and pass tds allowed loud. They
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  Speaker 6: were bottom five in sacks.
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  Speaker 5: I think you're going to see a group with an
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  Speaker 5: incredible secondary.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, this is a potent group.
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  Speaker 5: When you consider Johnson and Stevenson and Brisker and Gordon
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  Speaker 5: and Byered. The linebackers Mark and Tom are really good
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  Speaker 5: in terms of sideline to sideline, TJ. Edwards and Tremade Edmonds.
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  Speaker 5: I just mentioned that duo. But what will happen upfront?
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  Speaker 5: I wouldn't put it past Ryan Poles to add somebody
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  Speaker 5: as we approach training camp in a few weeks to
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  Speaker 5: that defensive group. But they're looking for a bunch of
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  Speaker 5: those young guys to step up, you know, as Zach Pickens,
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  Speaker 5: you know some of the rookies that we saw last year.
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  Speaker 5: Of course Durvon Dexter, and so it'll be interesting to
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  Speaker 5: see who helps Montese sweat. But make no mistake about it,
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  Speaker 5: this defense is actually really good in Chicago and has
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  Speaker 5: the potential to be a top five unit this season.
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  Speaker 2: It's fancy.
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  Speaker 7: That's why everybody's so excited about Chicago. Kavid Williams wasn't
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  Speaker 7: getting dropped into your usual first pick in the draft situation.
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  Speaker 7: Where As you mentioned, the defense was pretty sturdy for
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  Speaker 7: the second half half of the season and of course
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  Speaker 7: all of the playmakers he has on offense, but you
• 8:05
  Speaker 7: mentioned how they got better and the strengths and weaknesses,
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  Speaker 7: and I always look at how teams are constructed, and
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  Speaker 7: when you talked about that secondary a little bit, Stacey,
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  Speaker 7: there seemed to be a concerted effort to say, we're
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  Speaker 7: going to have our sweet spot in the second round
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  Speaker 7: of drafting secondary players. They've taken four Ryan Pole's a
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  Speaker 7: GM has taken four defensive backs in the last few
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  Speaker 7: drafts that'll probably start this year. You mentioned Jalen Johnson
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  Speaker 7: and Brisker Tyreek Stevenson and Kyler Gordon.
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  Speaker 2: So all four of those guys got.
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  Speaker 7: Taken in the second round and should get marketly better
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  Speaker 7: because they are a young group. Now got the veteran
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  Speaker 7: Kevin Byert hopefully will help them out as well. Of course,
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  Speaker 7: everything starts up front, but I think Ryan Poles really
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  Speaker 7: constructed it to say, Okay, we're not nasty upfront just yet,
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  Speaker 7: but we're going to build this secondary to try to
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  Speaker 7: help that pass rush out now. And it's when I
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  Speaker 7: look at how they're constructed, it really jumped out to me,
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  Speaker 7: Stacey and Tom.
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  Speaker 1: Defense is one reason that the Bears right now a
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  Speaker 1: trendy pick to make the playoffs, but they got to
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  Speaker 1: get through. Of course, the Lions also got to get
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: through the Packers, who Stacey the second half of last
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  Speaker 1: season into the playoffs right up until Jordan Love threw
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  Speaker 1: that interception. That was one of the hottest teams in football.
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: Gonn be a huge focus again on Jordan Love, those
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  Speaker 1: young receivers with another year under their belt, Josh Jacobs,
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: who's joining the Insiders tomorrow, adding to that backfield here.
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  Speaker 1: But on the defensive side, we got big changes in
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  Speaker 1: Green Bay too.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a complete makeover. This is a complete overhaul.
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  Speaker 5: The three words that Jeff Hafley, the new defensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 5: has been preaching this offseason to his players is attitude, effort,
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  Speaker 5: and commitment.
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  Speaker 6: And by and large we've seen that.
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  Speaker 5: It's really refreshing to see what they are doing to
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  Speaker 5: this defense in Green Bay, which wasn't too bad last year,
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  Speaker 5: but they gave up a bunch of big plays. They
• 9:54
  Speaker 5: struggled in that area, and they struggled to stop the run.
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  Speaker 5: So this is a complete scheme shift. We're going to
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  Speaker 5: a fourth three, but as Hafley has talked about, you're
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  Speaker 5: going to see a plethora of schemes defensially, defensively, formationally
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  Speaker 5: for the Packers, but he's simplifying it because he wants
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  Speaker 5: his players to play fast, without thinking, without overthinking, and
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  Speaker 5: when players hear that, they pin their ears back and
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  Speaker 5: they go. I think you're going to see players like
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  Speaker 5: Rashaan Gary and Preston Smith upfront. That is where the
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  Speaker 5: veteran nucleus of this defensive unit is really come alive
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  Speaker 5: this season. But they are extremely excited about how Halfley
• 10:30
  Speaker 5: uses his linebackers in coverage. When you consider, you know,
• 10:35
  Speaker 5: you know, some of their new players there. In terms
• 10:39
  Speaker 5: of those linebackers, Edgerant's going to be phenomenal, but their
• 10:43
  Speaker 5: back end is really exciting. I think Xavier McKinney, guys,
• 10:47
  Speaker 5: is a huge addition at the safety position. Obviously Bullard
• 10:51
  Speaker 5: the rookie also added, so that safety combination really should
• 10:55
  Speaker 5: change for the Packers defensively to where they just play free.
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  Speaker 5: They're more op tunistic and they are a lot more
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  Speaker 5: aggressive in Green Bay. But it's going to be fun
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  Speaker 5: to watch Eddrian Cooper and all of these young players
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  Speaker 5: come together, Mark and Tom in a division that right now,
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  Speaker 5: I guess you.
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  Speaker 6: Guys, could probably agree with me.
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  Speaker 5: Is on paper one of the best in the NFL
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  Speaker 5: heading into the twenty twenty four campaign.
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  Speaker 7: A lot of fun there in that division, Stacy, as
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  Speaker 7: you mentioned, and you know, the biggest change, of course
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  Speaker 7: is Jeff halfway Inn as the coordinator.
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  Speaker 2: One thing interesting and.
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  Speaker 7: Looking at his background, he's been a head coach, but
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  Speaker 7: he's only been a defensive coordinator one year the twenty
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  Speaker 7: four years that he's coached in the college and the
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  Speaker 7: pros and now the co defensive coordinator job at Ohio State.
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  Speaker 7: So it'll be interesting to see what he's going to bring,
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  Speaker 7: how he's going to construct the defense. You touched on it, Stacy,
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  Speaker 7: But until we see it on the field, I'm excited.
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  Speaker 2: I just think they have a ton of talent.
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  Speaker 7: We talked about the secondary, the investment in the secondary
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  Speaker 7: with the Bears and the second round picks, but the
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  Speaker 7: Packer have a ton of first round picks on their defense.
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  Speaker 2: Lucas's from last year.
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  Speaker 7: We need to step up before as Gary was even
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  Speaker 7: going back to Clark with the first round pick. You
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  Speaker 7: mentioned kway Walker as well, and Edrian Cooper is to
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  Speaker 7: me is going to be super exciting. All those guys
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  Speaker 7: can get after the passer. And although Cooper is a linebacker,
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  Speaker 7: when he was at A and M he had seventeen
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  Speaker 7: tackles for a loss. He was in the backfield all
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  Speaker 7: the time. To me, his strength was really blitzing and
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  Speaker 7: getting to the quarterback or getting in the backfield. So
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  Speaker 7: expect to see a lot of him going forward. Yes,
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  Speaker 7: he'll have to cover and get in space like Quay does,
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  Speaker 7: but expect to see a lot of Edgering Cooper coming
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  Speaker 7: forward getting after with the rest of those guys.
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  Speaker 1: Tom did I mention Josh Jacobs on The Insiders tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna want to be here. We got a lot
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: more first in this show, Stacey Mark.
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  Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere. Will be back with you shortly coming
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  Speaker 2: up after this.
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  Speaker 1: The AFC South last year was dominated by one team
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  Speaker 1: starting a rookie quarterback, another team that persevered despite losing
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: its rookie quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: How could his CJ.
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: Stroud Anthony Richardson rivalry developed in year two? We'll discuss
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  Speaker 1: it after this On The Insiders.
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  Speaker 8: Indians called slack black Anthony Richardsonson quarter.
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  Speaker 4: About Richardson's gonna take off and runn He's at.
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  Speaker 9: The touch down.
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  Speaker 10: The first career took down for Anthony Richardson looking out.
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  Speaker 2: Right, what was on the rug? Fires it upfield?
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  Speaker 7: The pass us fought by.
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  Speaker 1: Indianapolis An heroic row by Anthony Richardson and Ronnie right
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: side is Anthony Richardson turns the hurt he's down.
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  Speaker 4: This is where this kid is gonna give us so much.
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  Speaker 4: We got just a little taste of Anthony Richardson in
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty three of what he is capable of doing
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  Speaker 4: on the field that we are looking forward to seeing
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  Speaker 4: him back on the field this upcoming season. Stacy Dall's
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: is with us back again. Jane Slater with us as well.
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  Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson in mini camp a couple of days there
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  Speaker 4: wasn't throwing and there was everybody on the outside looking
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  Speaker 4: in and saying, whoa, whoa, what's the problem. He's supposed
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  Speaker 4: to be full go right now. Well, Chris Ballard, the
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  Speaker 4: coult general manager, saying that Richardson.
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  Speaker 2: Will be a full go for training camp.
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  Speaker 4: Stace, so what is the expectation with regard to once
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  Speaker 4: he is a full go and that shoulder surgery is
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: behind him, what we can expect for him in his
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  Speaker 4: second year?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we know that Anthony Richardson, Mike and Jane have
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: had the injury issues over the course of his entire
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: football career. Right, He's been head a schedule for months
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: with this shoulder thing, and I think it's just been
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: that you term we use in the NFL, cautiously optimistic
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: when a player's coming back from injury. They've had to
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: actually hold him back, which is why you saw him
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: sit out that final day of mini camp because he
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: had some soreness. As we watch back this unfortunate injury
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: from last season, and we saw so many snippets of greatness,
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: but I think we can all agree that you know
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: what we've seen from Anthony Richardson, guys, he's launching the ball,
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: easily launching the ball. Pull up anything on X and
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  Speaker 5: you will see it sixty yards, sixty five seventy yards.
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  Speaker 5: He has admitted that he's been, you know, months ahead
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  Speaker 5: of schedule, weeks ahead of schedule, and I think if
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  Speaker 5: you look no further to him mailing it in with
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: his recent on the court antics a little air windmill,
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: if you will, I think Anthony Richardson is feeling just fine, Like,
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: can we just like watch this. I've watched this like
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: a thousand times, like it's just like effortless, right, And
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: here's what I love about it. These are the reasons
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: you have to be excited if you're a coltspan. Their
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: offensive line returns all five starters, right, Bernard Ryman on
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: the left side, Braden Smith on the right side, and
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: of course Ryan Kelly in the middle, who's one of
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: the best in the business. That offensive line is back
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: to or should be back to, being really good. And
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: then one player that isn't having all this offseason drama
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: that maybe there was some last year in the running
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  Speaker 5: back Jonathan Taylor. I'm going to go to training camp
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  Speaker 5: and I'm going to watch him actually working out on
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: the field because he doesn't have any contract issues. What
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: Jim Bob Couter the offensive coordinator, and Shane Stike and
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: the head coach can do with those two alone can
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: cause some confusion and stress on a defense. I cannot
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: wait to see how they use him. But of course
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: he's got to be healthy. I like that the offensive
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: line's healthy and that he's got a group like them.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: Four games for Anthony Richardson last year, four rushing touchdowns,
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: three passing touchdowns to go on top of that to
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: only one interception. We said he needed to get some
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: playing experience. He didn't get as much as we wanted
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: to see last year. So this year going to be
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: big for him to have like his rookie year plus.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: That's what we'll call twenty twenty four for him.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: Speaking of sensational rookies that played the entire season, Jane
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: c J. Stroud in Texas, in Texas, down there, and
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: you add Stefan Diggs to the mix, and it sounds
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: like these two are vibing already.
• 17:07
  Speaker 11: Yeah, but real quick, I just want to see Stacy
• 17:09
  Speaker 11: Dill's do one of those windmills for us getting the
• 17:11
  Speaker 11: Jem Dell's.
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: I know you've got it in there.
• 17:13
  Speaker 11: I know some hops are in there. But as much
• 17:16
  Speaker 11: as you guys are talking about Anthony Richardson and the
• 17:18
  Speaker 11: Colts finding their quarterback, you're right, gee, they've got their
• 17:21
  Speaker 11: quarterback down there in Houston.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: C J.
• 17:24
  Speaker 11: Stroud had such a dynamic first year, and then you've
• 17:27
  Speaker 11: got guys like to make a Ryan taking care of
• 17:29
  Speaker 11: the defense. The big thing that we touched on a
• 17:32
  Speaker 11: couple of weeks ago, guys, was the addition of Stephan
• 17:35
  Speaker 11: Digs down there. Now that was a move that I
• 17:36
  Speaker 11: think shocked a lot of us this all season because
• 17:39
  Speaker 11: it was kept so quiet, they played the cards so
• 17:41
  Speaker 11: close to their vest. But what it does, it adds
• 17:43
  Speaker 11: yet another weapon to c J. Stroud's arsenal there and
• 17:47
  Speaker 11: you see Stroud and Diggs, they're throwing the ball in Paris, folks,
• 17:52
  Speaker 11: no days off. So Terrell Owen spent some time with CJ.
• 17:55
  Speaker 11: Stroud at his camp this summer, so I thought to myself,
• 17:58
  Speaker 11: why not just go ask one of the top five
• 18:00
  Speaker 11: receivers of all time what does he think of this connection?
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: And he had a lot of thoughts.
• 18:04
  Speaker 11: I mean, he gave me a whole lot of notes
• 18:06
  Speaker 11: on this, but he ultimately said, with Stefan Diggs, what
• 18:10
  Speaker 11: you really want from him was the guy that you
• 18:12
  Speaker 11: saw in Minnesota. You don't want a complimentary player. You
• 18:16
  Speaker 11: want him to be the playmaker. Now with the Bills,
• 18:19
  Speaker 11: you obviously saw his numbers during the year looked great,
• 18:22
  Speaker 11: but sometimes in the postseason it didn't always translate. And
• 18:26
  Speaker 11: that's what he needs to do. He needs him to
• 18:27
  Speaker 11: step up like that. But he also added add a
• 18:29
  Speaker 11: guy like Stefan Diggs to that room that's already got
• 18:33
  Speaker 11: tant Dell in there, You've got Nico Collins. This could
• 18:36
  Speaker 11: be a really, really special group. But I thought what
• 18:38
  Speaker 11: was more interesting coming from Terrell Owens When I talked
• 18:41
  Speaker 11: to him about c. J. Stroud, he was so impressed
• 18:43
  Speaker 11: with just his school, his skills, and his tool set
• 18:45
  Speaker 11: and ye're one, he thinks giving him those two type
• 18:49
  Speaker 11: of wide receivers, this is now a guy that could
• 18:52
  Speaker 11: be a top tier quarterback. In fact, he said he
• 18:55
  Speaker 11: thought he could be a top two or three guy.
• 18:57
  Speaker 11: So interesting to see if that plays itself out well.
• 19:00
  Speaker 11: He certainly has got a lot of the tools around him.
• 19:02
  Speaker 11: We're seeing them do a lot of stuff down there
• 19:03
  Speaker 11: in Houston.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: We've got a lot of Paris talk happening today. Stroud
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: and Diggs out there in Paris throw and I'd love
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: to see the reaction from anybody walking by us. No
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: concept of American football watching those guys do that. We
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: talked about Jonathan Owens going to Paris to see his wife,
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: Simon and Biles in the Olympics, Paris Johnson going to
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: be joining us later Paris. Johnson went to Paris recently.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Paris in Paris, how about that? I think we should
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: all go to Paris. You know what, no show tomorrow.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: We're going to Paris. I just made that decision.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: Yes, we're in the day shot Paris. Every time you
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: hear it, Hey.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Take a shot of I don't know what was a
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: drink there, red wine? I guess there you go, Dimico.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Ryan's one of the members of the Hall of Fama.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: See Roddy White there, you see Eric Weddle there as well.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: The Senior Ball Hall of Fame the induction there there
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: is your class of twenty twenty four. Right there, here's
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Ryan's on the honor.
• 19:55
  Speaker 12: The most excited thing is what I love about the
• 19:57
  Speaker 12: NFL is like it doesn't matter what happened last, Like
• 20:00
  Speaker 12: you get to hit reset, and that's like to start back.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: From ground zero, ground zero.
• 20:05
  Speaker 12: I love that, right, going back to our day one
• 20:09
  Speaker 12: fundamentals installs and seeing guys truly grow and see how
• 20:14
  Speaker 12: far we can get before the Hall of Fame game, right,
• 20:17
  Speaker 12: see our young players get better, right and compete against
• 20:21
  Speaker 12: each other. That's what I enjoy most. I still enjoy
• 20:25
  Speaker 12: and it comes back to the Senior Ball. I still
• 20:26
  Speaker 12: enjoy the growth and development of young players, right, That's
• 20:30
  Speaker 12: what gets me going That's why I enjoy coaching, is
• 20:33
  Speaker 12: to just have some type of imprint on those guys
• 20:36
  Speaker 12: to help them to go and achieve whatever they want
• 20:39
  Speaker 12: to achieve in their.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Careers, from the Senior Ball to the other All Star
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: game that will broadcast here on NFL Network. The one
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: hundredth East West Shrine Boy saw Steve Smith, he was
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: inducted in the Shrineball Hall of Fame a couple of
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: months ago. Will be played at at and T Stadium
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: in Arlington, Texas, seven pm Thursday, January thirtieth. Like I said,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: here on NFL Networks, you get to see an advanced
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: look at some of the names we will hear in
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: the twenty twenty five draft. There at the East West Shrineball,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: we talked Ceede Lamb and a bunch of other wide
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: receivers to start the show.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: We're gonna talk Lamb again.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: We want to hear from Jane Slater, who covers those
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: cowboys closely, as well as Mark Ross. They will join
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: us after this break to get there.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Cuts at this.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Ceedee Lamb storyline, whether he'll get a contraction back to
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Throlly let's him from the safety spot at Truscott of
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: State Stack runs to his rfe throws on.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: The road in the middle of fil.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Lamb at the fifty.
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: You want to get anywhere near Lamb?
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Truly, if we wanted to shed lam ninety blue yours,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: we ustot put the Dallas touchdown.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: The big plays were Ceedee Lamb in a monster twenty
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: twenty three season. Be it one that did not quite
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: end the way that he or the Cowboys would have wanted.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Insiders, Tom Pellisero, Mike Grifolo, joined
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: again by Jane Slater and Mark Ross.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Jane, you are down there in Dallas.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: This is one of the off season storylines that keeps
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: on giving.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Give me the latest right now?
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Where do we stand with the Cowboys, CD Lamb and
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: what is fair to call a contract standoff?
• 22:27
  Speaker 11: Well, probably my favorite text this week when I reached
• 22:30
  Speaker 11: out to see if there was any updates, was I
• 22:32
  Speaker 11: don't know.
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: I'm on another island.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Without giving a.
• 22:35
  Speaker 11: Source away, bottom line is things are very very quiet,
• 22:41
  Speaker 11: very very quiet up at the Star right now. But
• 22:45
  Speaker 11: as for this CD deal, look, we've seen this before.
• 22:48
  Speaker 11: I saw that my colleague Calvin Watkins put out that
• 22:51
  Speaker 11: he is expected to be a holdout at camp if
• 22:53
  Speaker 11: he doesn't get a contract, well, Zeke did that, Zach
• 22:56
  Speaker 11: Martin did it, and they both got deals. I anticipate
• 23:00
  Speaker 11: that this thing will likely get done. But this is
• 23:03
  Speaker 11: the final gear of CD's rookie deal, one that slid
• 23:06
  Speaker 11: make roughly four point five million last year after factoring
• 23:09
  Speaker 11: his pro rated signing bonus, his base salary, and his guarantee.
• 23:13
  Speaker 11: Now in this final year of his contract, he's slated
• 23:16
  Speaker 11: to make eighteen million. Now, if the Cowboys fail to
• 23:18
  Speaker 11: reach a deal, remember CD will ultimately play on the
• 23:21
  Speaker 11: eighteen million. They could in theory use the franchise tag
• 23:24
  Speaker 11: in twenty twenty five. But Lamb and the Cowboys would
• 23:27
  Speaker 11: like to get a deal done. Now, in Lamb's mind,
• 23:30
  Speaker 11: he'd like to get one somewhere in the vicinity of
• 23:33
  Speaker 11: Justin Jefferson four years, one hundred and forty million and
• 23:36
  Speaker 11: nearly eighty nine million at signing, and I think that's
• 23:39
  Speaker 11: going to be a little rich for Dallas. So here
• 23:41
  Speaker 11: we are, and in his absence, what this is going
• 23:44
  Speaker 11: to do is it's going to give Dak Prescott an
• 23:46
  Speaker 11: opportunity to work out with some of those other wide receivers.
• 23:49
  Speaker 11: Jalen Tolbert This was a twenty twenty two third round pick.
• 23:53
  Speaker 11: In fact, Mike McCarthy that year gave Dak a list
• 23:56
  Speaker 11: if here's some of the wide receivers we're looking at
• 23:58
  Speaker 11: heading into the draft, and it was Dak who put
• 24:01
  Speaker 11: his stamp on Jalen Tolbert. And they've had really good
• 24:03
  Speaker 11: chemistry this offseason. You've got Cavante Turpin, a speedy, little
• 24:07
  Speaker 11: inside guy that you'll get some work with at camp.
• 24:10
  Speaker 11: Want to keep an eye on Deuce Vaughn. He was
• 24:12
  Speaker 11: getting slot work. He's a running back for the team
• 24:15
  Speaker 11: that they picked up last year. They're working him in there.
• 24:17
  Speaker 11: A little bit of a Cole Beasley starter kid. That's
• 24:20
  Speaker 11: the film that he's been looking at. But look, bottom
• 24:24
  Speaker 11: line is, I think this thing is going to work
• 24:26
  Speaker 11: itself out. These things tend to do that in Dallas.
• 24:30
  Speaker 11: Sevie Lamb such an integral part of this offense. Really
• 24:33
  Speaker 11: had a monster year and I think that he certainly
• 24:36
  Speaker 11: did enough to earn this. So let's see how this
• 24:39
  Speaker 11: thing shakes out. But guys, we're going to be talking
• 24:41
  Speaker 11: about this all through itc the weeks leading up to it.
• 24:45
  Speaker 11: It's the story that won't go away. But for people
• 24:48
  Speaker 11: wondering why Ceedee wants to get paid. I mean, all
• 24:50
  Speaker 11: you have to do is go to overthecap dot com.
• 24:52
  Speaker 11: He hasn't exactly been making a ton of money. These
• 24:54
  Speaker 11: rookies don't, and now he feels like he's put the
• 24:57
  Speaker 11: work in to deserve the money that guys like just
• 25:00
  Speaker 11: Jefferson er out there getting So we'll.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: See, well, James CD deserves to get paid.
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: You know, he wants to get paid because he deserves
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: it because he's top two, three, four, five wide receiver
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: in the league. When I just look at him and
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: study him just as his skills set, but also the
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: importance he has to Dallas's offense. You mentioned all those
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: other people, but look, this offense goes as Ceedee Lamb
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: goes when he's taken out of the game. The last
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: few years with Dallas, there's been nobody really to step
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: up to help. Dak hasn't shown the ability to raise
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: everyone's level. So when you're negotiations and you have leverage,
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: CD looks around and says, yes, I'm one of the
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: top five receivers in the league, but you people absolutely
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: need me in this offense. And also the way he
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: plays in the offense in the slot where since twenty
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: twenty he's had the most touches from a slot receiver position,
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: and then he led the league in yards after.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Catch last year.
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: So such an easy skill set for him that Dak
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: could get him the ball at CD go make something happen.
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: He's consistently does that for this offense, so he absolutely
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: deserves the money. This is where the market is for him, Mike,
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: this is where the market is for these big time receivers.
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: And he looks around and says, yes, I'm just as
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: good as Justin Jefferson and all these other guys that
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: are getting paid. So hopefully, maybe for us we wanted
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: to keep going, but hopefully for CD Dallas it gets
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: done because they absolutely need him to survive.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can go over to cap dot com to
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: see what cde Lamb has earned in the past. Let's
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: go to Mike de gariffalo dot com to see what's
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: gonna happen. Actually, don't, it's a deadlink. I do own
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: the url. I don't know what I'm gonna do with it.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Haven't decided what I'm gonna put on that website just yet.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: We got to see how this little NFL network thing
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: plays out first. But if I did have, I'll just
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: give it to you here. How about that. I'll give
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: it to you here and tell you here's what should happen.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: You're right, maybe it's gonna be a little rich for
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: Dallas's blood to get up to that thirty five million
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: dollars a year that Justin Jefferson got. So come in
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: at around like thirty five. Look, I solved the Tyreek
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Hill one earlier in the show. I'm gonna solve this
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: one right here, coming to like thirty three. Okay, see
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: south of Justin Jefferson on the base value, But I
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: didn't know incentives that gives them the chance to get
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: up to thirty five. This way, you can announce it
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: when somebody gives it to Ian or Tom. Right, you
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: can announce it as the big number, and then somebody
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: finds out later it's actually the smaller number on the
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: base value.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: But that's all right.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: You already got your hits right away. I just solved
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: the whole thing completely for everybody involved. There you go, Tom,
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: go tweet it out in like twenty days.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: We were gonna.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Talk about bleek cooker. We're gonna talk about blee cooker.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Going on a podcast to talk about Michael Parsons doing
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: too many podcasts. But you guys ran a four minute
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: offense right there like the Packers in that playoff game. However,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: if you want a podcast about guys doing too many
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: podcasts and others going on podcasts to talk about podcasts,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: to them, We've got a podcast for you.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: It's The Insiders podcast.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Driven't listened to The Insiders on the iHeartRadio app, Apple
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: podcasts or wherever you get your podcast from podcasts to Paris,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: That's where Paris Johnson Junior was recently, now backstats getting
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: ready for a big season in Arizona. Is the big
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: man of the mind, the Kylin Murray can have a
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: big year year two in that offense. Fun to Paris
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: about that and a lot more RNFS on The Insiders.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: We are back here on The Insiders, joined by Cardinals
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: left tackle Paris Johnson Junior. Paris, what is up, my man?
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: I appreciate you spending some time with us here on
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: The Insiders on NFL Network. I was texting back and
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: forth with your head coach Jonathan Gannon earlier today. I said,
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: give me something to ask your guy. I want your
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: question I'm going to hit him right off the bat,
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: and he said, check to see what he's doing to
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: become to take that next step to become an elite
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: left tackle. I am pretty sure that is your head
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: coach's way of checking in on you to make sure
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: you're getting in some work between minicamp and training camp.
• 29:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah. So so right now, you know, I just got
• 29:02
  Speaker 9: back from a trip. I just got back from a trip.
• 29:05
  Speaker 9: Went went to Europe with with with my younger sister.
• 29:09
  Speaker 9: That was a good experience. But obviously I was there.
• 29:12
  Speaker 9: I know that, you know I'm there. I'm there on
• 29:15
  Speaker 9: that trip because you know, I'm still playing football. So
• 29:17
  Speaker 9: obviously being able to spend all my mornings, be able
• 29:19
  Speaker 9: to while I was in Paris and Italy, to be
• 29:22
  Speaker 9: able to train, be able to find a weight room,
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: to be able to find fields, that was the most
• 29:27
  Speaker 9: important thing. And then you know, I just got back
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: this Saturday. First thing I did was was go to
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: the weight room again, hit the field, because again the
• 29:35
  Speaker 9: main thing, the main thing.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Take that Jonathan Gannon, you don't need to check take
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: it Paris Johnson. He's taking care of business over here,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: all right. So Year two with Jonathan Gannon. Year two
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: in this offensive system, give me an idea of what
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: your expectations are and how this offseason headed into training
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: camp might feel different than a year ago.
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think I think just personally, just year two,
• 30:02
  Speaker 9: just being able to fulfill all the expectations that I
• 30:04
  Speaker 9: have for myself, the expectations that the team has for
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: me being here. You know, my goal ultimately to goal
• 30:11
  Speaker 9: is to be the best tackle in the game. And
• 30:15
  Speaker 9: then obviously playing with the guys we have on this team,
• 30:17
  Speaker 9: you know, being able to have Marv as a weapon,
• 30:22
  Speaker 9: I think is just explosive. I just love the guys
• 30:25
  Speaker 9: we have on our offense, and I expect this offense
• 30:27
  Speaker 9: to be one of the top of the country.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: You know, you talk about Marvin Harrison, your buddy from
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Ohio State, being added to this offense. Give us the
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: scouting report what you saw in the spring, because when
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: you talk about pro ready wide receivers, any position, pro
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: ready football players coming into the league, this is about
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: as good as it gets, right.
• 30:48
  Speaker 9: It is it is, and honestly, he's been that way
• 30:50
  Speaker 9: since college. That's one of the things I always told
• 30:52
  Speaker 9: everybody about, I mean, even before we picked him, is
• 30:54
  Speaker 9: that he's been a professional since his freshman year. So
• 30:57
  Speaker 9: have him here. He's already in a routine, he's already
• 30:59
  Speaker 9: in a low and just talking to a lot of
• 31:01
  Speaker 9: the defensive back stay love going against him. Whether it's
• 31:05
  Speaker 9: a high day or it's a lower day, a walkthrough day,
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: just the place that he sets for himself as exception.
• 31:12
  Speaker 9: So I'm super excited to have him on the field.
• 31:15
  Speaker 9: You know, it just it makes even more fun to
• 31:18
  Speaker 9: hold your block because you're ready to know what kind
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: of guys you have out there on the edge.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Apparent, as you said, he was a professional since back
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: as a freshman at Ohio State. I got to imagine
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: when you're the established guys on that team and here
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: comes a guy with a famous name, and you've got
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: this idea that maybe this dude's going to be a
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: prima donna. He's going to be too big for it
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: and he's going to be entitled. What was your welcome
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: to what Marvin Harrison Junior moment? Like, what was that
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: moment for you back with the buck guys?
• 31:50
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think, honestly, just I think just day one,
• 31:55
  Speaker 9: you know, I didn't really know who he was. You know,
• 31:57
  Speaker 9: he didn't talk about his dad at all in his
• 31:59
  Speaker 9: back ground. Obviously, you know, I wasn't really personally familiar
• 32:04
  Speaker 9: with how much of niece's dad was. Other guys in
• 32:08
  Speaker 9: the team I talk about his dad is this and that.
• 32:09
  Speaker 9: I wasn't familiar. I met his dad, Man is an
• 32:12
  Speaker 9: awesome guy. But I learned all that later. So for Marvin,
• 32:14
  Speaker 9: I just saw Marvin as you know himself, you know,
• 32:17
  Speaker 9: not necessarily what his dad was, but just him for
• 32:20
  Speaker 9: who he was. But again, he jumps off the screen.
• 32:23
  Speaker 9: As a freshman, I remember, I mean, I guess my
• 32:25
  Speaker 9: sophomore year, we used to talk an offensive line room.
• 32:28
  Speaker 9: We used to talk about the skilled players to watch
• 32:29
  Speaker 9: him in practice, and we used to not necessarily place
• 32:33
  Speaker 9: best because we're not having that much money in college,
• 32:35
  Speaker 9: but just for fun to be like, who's going to
• 32:37
  Speaker 9: be at the end of the day when they finished
• 32:39
  Speaker 9: their career the best receiver you know in the room
• 32:43
  Speaker 9: while you know you have I was there arguably some
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: of the best Ohio State receivers to come through in
• 32:48
  Speaker 9: the past couple of years. And then you know, with Marvin,
• 32:50
  Speaker 9: it it came to no surprise that it was going
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: to be him. Plays he made and doesn't really try
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: to talk about it. He just smiles and just he
• 32:59
  Speaker 9: lines back up.
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: What has he done for Kyler? Uh?
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: And Kyler's demeanor this spring. I mean Kyler's demeanor this spring,
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: not having to come back from ACL has to be
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: huge as well. You're adding weapons, You're starting to build
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: this thing up. Give me the Kyler barometer right now?
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Where does it stand? Oh?
• 33:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean he's in full swing. He's in full swing, obviously,
• 33:24
  Speaker 9: like the the Piper. The leadership that that he that
• 33:29
  Speaker 9: he's brought this offseason has been incredible, And obviously I
• 33:32
  Speaker 9: know he's excited to have Marvin and he's been spending
• 33:35
  Speaker 9: a lot of time with the guys. He's been spending
• 33:38
  Speaker 9: a lot of time on the field, So I'm super
• 33:41
  Speaker 9: excited to have him full go.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Paris.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: You're you're doing some non football, non training things right
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: now too. Besides going to Europe, you're also partnering with
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: the Pat Tillman Foundation and Coca Cola for the second
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: annual Summer Water Drive to benefit residents of you mom
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: New Days Centers. Tell me how you got involved in
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: this and and what it means to you.
• 34:01
  Speaker 9: Yes, So, when I first got out to Arizona. Something
• 34:04
  Speaker 9: that I wanted to do was I want to be
• 34:05
  Speaker 9: able to get back to the community, you know, so
• 34:08
  Speaker 9: being able to serve the families and the kids in
• 34:09
  Speaker 9: the community, and I wanted to help in something that's
• 34:12
  Speaker 9: a small way, but I feel like it's something that's
• 34:14
  Speaker 9: gone far in the community, not only just with the water,
• 34:17
  Speaker 9: but being able just to have some conversations and spend
• 34:20
  Speaker 9: time families there is always amazing.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I've known you since your college days. Charitable
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: work is a big part. It's always been a big
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: part of what you do with the Paris Johnson Junior Foundation.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: In fact, your agent, Adam Heller, said, here's his calendar
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: throughout the year.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: You've got the water drive in June.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: In November, you've got to feed the needy. You've got
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: a holiday toy drive that you do December, might cause
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: my cleats in conjunction with the Tilman Foundation February, and
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: a Buckeye cruise to help offset the cost of football
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: equipment for folks. You've got annual fundraising that you did
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: back in March. You know, I know that football you
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: talked about that being the main thing, but how much
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: of this is important to you and what you want
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: to do throughout your career as far as helping out
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: the community.
• 35:08
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I feel like the platform that I
• 35:10
  Speaker 9: have to play in the NFL, I feel like I
• 35:12
  Speaker 9: feel ultimately it's a gift that comes from God. So
• 35:15
  Speaker 9: so ultimately I want to be able to use a
• 35:16
  Speaker 9: platform that I create by being able to make plays
• 35:18
  Speaker 9: on Sundays to be able to use the time I
• 35:22
  Speaker 9: have to be able to give back to the community
• 35:23
  Speaker 9: an off season. So obviously during the season during those events,
• 35:28
  Speaker 9: that's that's the team of people within my foundation that
• 35:31
  Speaker 9: are going to be able to be able to help
• 35:33
  Speaker 9: put those events on. As you know, again, I'm keeping
• 35:36
  Speaker 9: the main thing, the main thing on the field because
• 35:38
  Speaker 9: that's what few the activities in the off seasons to
• 35:41
  Speaker 9: be able to give back any activities that are going
• 35:44
  Speaker 9: on during the season. So I'm thankful to have a
• 35:46
  Speaker 9: team of people that when I'm not available to be
• 35:48
  Speaker 9: there physically myself, are able to keep these events going
• 35:52
  Speaker 9: and help the community out.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: That's awesome, man. Good for you.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: I know it's something you've always done and will continue
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: to do. Just remember and training camp starts. You are
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: on the right side your rookie year. Now we're heading
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: out to the left side. I know we talked about it,
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: so make sure that's a smooth adjustment.
• 36:08
  Speaker 9: Okay, always always.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Let's stay in the NFC after this.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: The Giants have made moves like they expect to compete,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: But are they built to be a playoff team in
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. We'll discuss it and talk to one
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: of those new editions. Brian Burns.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Next on the Insiders.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Brian Burns certainly has been consistent through his young NFL career,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: one of just three players who's had at least seven
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: and a half sacks each year since twenty nineteen. This offseason,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Burns goes from the Panthers to the Giants, and this
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: week he's gone off to the Sacks Summit in Vegas,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: where Burns caught up with Baldy.
• 36:58
  Speaker 10: S Far Burns, right here, man, he ain't the newest
• 37:00
  Speaker 10: New York Giant.
• 37:01
  Speaker 9: All right?
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: What are you here for?
• 37:03
  Speaker 13: Right? Like?
• 37:03
  Speaker 10: I mean, you just got paid, you had success in
• 37:06
  Speaker 10: this league. But what do you want to learn out
• 37:07
  Speaker 10: here at the Sack Summer?
• 37:09
  Speaker 9: All right?
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: Now?
• 37:09
  Speaker 13: I'm just trying to pick you know, the older guys, brands.
• 37:12
  Speaker 13: You know, I never really got to sit down and
• 37:13
  Speaker 13: talk to Vaughn.
• 37:14
  Speaker 9: You know, I talked to.
• 37:14
  Speaker 13: Cam, I talked to Mex Those are guys I usually
• 37:16
  Speaker 13: talk to.
• 37:17
  Speaker 9: But now getting to sit around Vonn and jet On and.
• 37:19
  Speaker 13: You know, and also forting to the younger guys that's
• 37:21
  Speaker 13: coming into the league.
• 37:22
  Speaker 10: The thing that I always learned from Vaughn, but I
• 37:24
  Speaker 10: think it's important for young guys, even like you right now,
• 37:27
  Speaker 10: is understanding the moment of the game, when the game
• 37:29
  Speaker 10: is in the bounds, when can I take the game over.
• 37:31
  Speaker 10: I've been working my guys for working them all games.
• 37:34
  Speaker 10: Now it's third down. We gotta get off the field.
• 37:36
  Speaker 10: They need me. I gotta show up. I got to
• 37:38
  Speaker 10: make that play.
• 37:38
  Speaker 9: Like.
• 37:39
  Speaker 10: That's the feel that Vaughn loves to try to teach
• 37:41
  Speaker 10: to the younger guys.
• 37:42
  Speaker 13: Now he definitely has that. He's one of the most
• 37:44
  Speaker 13: clutchest players, you know, even even dating back to when
• 37:47
  Speaker 13: they head Carolina in the Super Bowl. Yeah, that was tough,
• 37:49
  Speaker 13: but he knows he knows when the pick his time
• 37:51
  Speaker 13: to really win and pull out his best stuff.
• 37:53
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you're dropping pipe rockets.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: You're talking, man.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Insiders for a front office. Tom
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Pelis Cheryl Mike, You're follow joined once again now by
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Mark Ross. No headbands or sunglasses in this segment. Mark,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: But let's get into those Giants, because they've made moves
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: this offseason like they think they can be in it
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: In your mind?
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Is this Giants team built like a playoff team right now?
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: A lot of moves but looking more like let's let's
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: say we can be competitive. It's a lot of question
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: marks still despite all the moves, And the biggest question
• 38:30
  Speaker 7: mark is that quarterback with Daniel Jones and is he
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: the guy? Canny stay healthy, can he perform? Or is
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: Drew Locke lurking and going to be the replacement? You know,
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: of course they're going to give Daniels the entire rope,
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: as much rope as possible to be the guy. But
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: if Drew lock clearly is better, he'll they'll have to
• 38:47
  Speaker 7: play him the best version of Daniel Jones. Sakuon Barkley
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: was there and saw Barkley was working magic. He's not
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: there anymore, so where will they go? Malik Neighbors, of
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: course highly heralded. I love the guy, but is he
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: really the only threat on offense? Still a lot of
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: question marks on the offensive line, despite a lot of
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: high investment draft picks in the signing of the free agents.
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: So the best case scenario is Brian Burns, Thibodeau and
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: Dexter Lawrence to just go out there and wreck everything,
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: wreck games like the glory days of the Jpps and
• 39:18
  Speaker 7: Lynn Balls.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: And Stray and OC's and tucks.
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: That's the best case scenario on defense and kind of
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: carry the team while they work themselves through. But again,
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: some question marks in the in the second area and
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: linebacker as well. So Mike, we've seen it, Ton, We've
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: seen it. Those three guys up front, go destroy everything
• 39:35
  Speaker 7: and things will be good in the metal lands.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: All care to jump? I agree?
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well they don't follow because I think I want
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: to make sure you talk there now.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Even shorter on Time Hard Knocks.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: We're all going to get a chance to see it
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: and weigh in once that kicks off.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: It is off season with the New York Giants. It
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: debutsed Borrow Night.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Hey, Mike, what are you most excited to see on
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: this show?
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm ready for this one. Tom.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: I am excited to see the conversation between Joe Shane
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: and Saquon Barkley, he's got the phone. I meant to
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: go watch the trailer again because I just remember it.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: It's a quick cutaway and he's talking directly to Saquon
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: Barkley and says something like, are you gonna give us
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: the chance to match it?
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Or something like that.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: So you know that there is a conversation that they
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: have on tape, and it appears that it's on speakerphone
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: with general manager Joe Shane. So let's see how much
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: of that was captured. And let's see how Barkley came
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: to the decision to leave the Giants to head to
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: the Eagles, if it was more of a fresh start
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: thing or if it was more of a financial thing.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: We can get a little bit more of the insight
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: on camera.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: That's the point of this Hard Knocks, behind the scenes stuff.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: We got to see more of that.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Looks like we get a little bit of that in
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: this one.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Any else, My guys want to check you good? We
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: got everything out. That's it. Not we gotta go, okay,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not after.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: This pretty good month for Christian McCaffrey, the Madden cover
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: married a supermodel. I went to a ten year old
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: birthday party. So I inside out too, so pretty much
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: the same thing. What lines ahead for Cemac both on
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: and off the field. We'll discuss it next on The Insiders.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes logo officially replacing that slice of tape that
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: he used put on his helmet back in the Texas
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Tech days. It's now there on the field. Yes, it's
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: that thing that's.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: On the right sea. It's a P and an M
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: and they're kind of combined.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: But that's now on the field at his alma mater,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Texas Tech. Meanwhile, congratulations to Christian McCaffrey and Olivia Coppo.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: The happy couple married on Saturday in watch Hill, Rhode Island.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go ahead and read this excerpt from
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Vogue since Jeff Coletter producers kay Of descended to me.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: They marry at the one hundred and fifty year old
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Watch Hill Chapel. Olivia wore a Doulce and Gabona longsleeve
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: crew neck crape ball gown.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: With a voluminous skirt and button line back quote.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't want it to exude sex in any way,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: shape or form, she says of the dress, which she
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: wore with a sixteen foot lace veil and fifteen carrot
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: to Beer's diamond ear rings.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Mark, I'll come to you, Mike. Mike actually looks very
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: upset here. Mike.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: You got you want to want to chime in here,
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: you got advice you just.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: You look at that. It's like they took the cake topper, right.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: They may they're real life cake toppers.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: The two of them.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: It's that's unbelievable, how beautiful those two people are. But
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: I would yes, I've got some advice for them. It
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: looked like a lot of prep went into this wedding here.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: I'm sure there's a wedding planner or two that was involved.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: My wife actually had this advice for me before we
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: got married. This is not the finish line. People treat
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: the wedding like the fish.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: This is at the end zone, Christian.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: This is not the crowning moment, Olivia.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: This is the beginning of many things.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: The more the challenges to come in your marriage, so
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: be prepared for that.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: The other thing is, you're beautiful people.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: I'm sure you want to have beautiful children as soon
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: as possible. Just take your time on that part.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, enjoy married.
• 43:16
  Speaker 9: Life today, Mark, Tom not a scripture on Christian suit.
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: I want to know what kind of cut, what that
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: was that? No, nothing on there anyway. So those are
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: high drangers by the way, in the background. And my
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: wife actually been married nineteen years. She had high drangers
• 43:33
  Speaker 7: at our wedding. So I know that's the only flower
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: I know, know a sunflower. But Christian, you're not the boss.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Check her.
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: You go at the door and let it go, buddy,
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: that's the best.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I just searched the story for tuxedo and all I
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: found was their dog all over wore a custom doggie tuxedo.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Rich people stuff, See you tomorrow.