Latest / Brett Keane and Eve Show / Kent Hovind Vs Satanist @Lucifer-LeGivorden | Evolution of Satanism
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- 6:42Well, hello, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Brett
- 6:46Keene and you are watching and listening to the Brett Keane
- 6:49show. I hope you're all having a
- 6:51wonderful day. Let's put o Kent handsome Kent
- 6:55Hogan over there on the main screen.
- 6:57How you doing there Kent and we've got Mr. Lucifer also known
- 7:00as my co-host Kent. How's your day been I was yet is
- 7:05unmute the mic and tell us about it.
- 7:08I was as busy as a one arm paper hanger in a hurricane brother it
- 7:11was People coming for tours all the time still haven't had
- 7:15supper yet. Oh Well life's rough and then
- 7:17you die. No, it's been good.
- 7:18I did a lot of research on Mr. Lucifer here and his uh program
- 7:23that he pushes and I think that's an interesting stuff.
- 7:25I found I'd like to share it tonight.
- 7:27So I think this ought to be good.
- 7:28We're trying to get him converted to the Lord tonight on
- 7:31screen. Well, we do like to plug you not
- 7:35gonna happen. So Lucifer.
- 7:39How's your day been? That's been doing pretty good.
- 7:43Been doing pretty good. I had to unplug a sink drain
- 7:47today. Oh, that's rough man.
- 7:51I can't do any kind of work and I can't cook either I burn ramen
- 7:55noodle. So guys you favor real quick.
- 7:58If you got any books or CDs or YouTube channels or rumbles tell
- 8:03me about it. Tell the world about it.
- 8:08But oh I was gonna let you go first.
- 8:11All right. Um for those of you interested,
- 8:16my name is Lucifer Lego Gordon. I Am The High Priestess
- 8:19technicalian Society. I am also the founder. ah And
- 8:25so, oh one of the things that you can do is if you're
- 8:29interested in what we have to do if you're watching this on one
- 8:32of my channels, you can actually go down to the comments or the
- 8:37description Down Below on either my YouTube channel or on my
- 8:42Rumble Channel and you can find links to the STS website the
- 8:47official Cthulhu you can also find links to where you can buy
- 8:52my book or even the latest issue of the clothing Post Magazine.
- 8:59I have right here. You can find us all over the
- 9:04place. We are a theistic satanic
- 9:06organization. We've all the teachings of Anton
- 9:09Lee as they were properly intended to be taught and Yeah,
- 9:16that's pretty much it. All right.
- 9:21Can't you got some stuff for us May?
- 9:24Well, yeah, I was reading a little bit about Mr. Lucifer.
- 9:27Here's history and what brought him in it that you're dead for
- 9:30according to Flat Line for 20 minutes when he was seven or
- 9:33eight years old and he's probably great profoundly
- 9:36influenced him. Somebody asked him said I want
- 9:38to make a deal with the devil. Where do I start?
- 9:40He answered. I'm gonna be dry cut and dry
- 9:43such an idiotic question is not going to get you anywhere.
- 9:45I've been a Satanist 15 years and an occultist for 30.
- 9:49The first rule of thumb is educate yourself before asking
- 9:51public questions. I run the satanics.
- 9:56Right. I mean the thickness for about
- 9:5718 years now. Well, this was a year ago when
- 10:02you're comment was made. I'm just reading reading a
- 10:05comment that okay anyway. Um written numerous books on the
- 10:09subject Satanism will not make you rich or famous or solve your
- 10:12personal issues only you can do that.
- 10:13Well good point, okay. Satanism is a religion as is
- 10:19luciferianism from other ones here a host of variance of
- 10:22Satanism. So I would like to let me make
- 10:25you aware of Lucifer that someday they commanded them not
- 10:29to speak in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
- 10:31Okay, and this is known to all the Jews and Greeks and dwelling
- 10:35it emphasis and fear fell on them and the name of the Lord.
- 10:38Jesus was magnified. So let this mind be in you which
- 10:42is also in Christ. Jesus being in the form of God
- 10:44thought and not robbery to be equal with God.
- 10:46I unashamedly take the position that Jesus Christ was God
- 10:49himself in the flesh and at his name every knee shall bow.
- 10:53God is highly exalted him giving him a name above every name that
- 10:57at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow.
- 10:59Satan is going to Bow you are going to bow to Jesus Christ one
- 11:03day. Will you believe it or not?
- 11:05It's gonna happen and the thulean society really is the
- 11:08foundation from a lot of people that ended up with Hitler's
- 11:11movement guy the German Society Munich started in by a guy and
- 11:1519 see 18. He styled himself to be rude off
- 11:20on somebody. He was an anti-semitic society
- 11:23that links with Adolf Hitler through the German Workers
- 11:25Party. Of central figure Dietrich
- 11:28Eckhardt also played prominent part in the committee of the
- 11:31workers' party German workers' party became one of the seven
- 11:34founding members of the Nazi party.
- 11:36So last time we do kind of denied that but there is a
- 11:39strong link between the thulean society, which you are proudly
- 11:42part of and the Nazis just so you're aware.
- 11:44That's fine. The thulian satanic Society
- 11:48satanic thorian Society. You said we're the only 100%
- 11:51fully theistic. Levian satanic organization
- 11:55after Anton LaVey, but in quite a bit of research on Anton LaVey
- 12:01today to find out who is this guy?
- 12:02He wrote the Satanic Bible or claims.
- 12:04He wrote it. It's actually mostly plagiarized
- 12:07from a bunch of other sources. It's not a Bible at all.
- 12:09It's a book that he wrote and called it the Satanic Bible.
- 12:12It's a joke in my humble totally unbiased opinion.
- 12:16Love levay said blessed are the Destroyers a false?
- 12:19Hope they are the true Messiahs. Okay.
- 12:21I'm going to destroy your false. Hope tonight in Satan.
- 12:25He's a loser. I read the last chapter he
- 12:27loses. Okay, he's going to help I'd
- 12:30like to get you out of that call that that's a dumb idea to
- 12:32follow a loser like that. Anyway, go ahead Brett start off
- 12:35who goes first. What do you want to do?
- 12:36Well, I was gonna first let people know out in the comments.
- 12:40We always try to keep things respectful and decent no
- 12:44personal attacks towards Kent or Mr. Lucifer.
- 12:48Everybody's here voluntarily to have a discussion about
- 12:51Evolution. Nobody's hostile.
- 12:53So don't expect baseball bats and chainsaws as exciting as
- 12:58that would be so with that being said can't you didn't promote
- 13:03your CDs or any of the stuff or you want to do that?
- 13:06Before we go? Well sure we produced a lot of
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- 13:23years old dinosaurs lived with man all through history.
- 13:25They called him dragons or some other name as video three people
- 13:28used to live to be 900 years old.
- 13:31According to the Bible and according to many Legends called
- 13:33the Golden Age. Okay.
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- 14:16What I'm gonna do is I'll start off with a couple questions just
- 14:19to get things kind of going get the ball rolling.
- 14:22Okay, so Kent as well as Lucifer.
- 14:25Are you aware that according to science websites because of
- 14:29their new telescope they have they are now claiming that the
- 14:32universe is not quadruple. The age of the originally was
- 14:37stated that 14 to 16 point billion years old.
- 14:40They're now saying 30 billion years old and they plan on
- 14:44changing the age of the Earth to 4.5 billion years to almost 15.
- 14:49What is you guys' thoughts on that before we get into the
- 14:52debate? Why does that bother me?
- 14:57I was just curious what you thought about it whether it
- 15:00bothers you guys or not or you think it's hogwashed just one in
- 15:04your opinion, um and all honesty from a satanic perspective.
- 15:08It really doesn't matter. We are here and now in the
- 15:13presence, I mean one of my biggest questions most
- 15:16creationists is why should I care?
- 15:19What honestly why should I cared you're trying to prove a point
- 15:23out of a book that I don't follow.
- 15:26Um, why should I care? All right fair enough can't you
- 15:30have an opinion on it? Well, it's predictable.
- 15:33They always add more time. See time is The Pacifier that
- 15:37keeps the atheists and evolution is happy.
- 15:39If you say how on Earth can an amoeba turn to a human they will
- 15:43say given enough time. If you can take away time, they
- 15:47cry like a baby with no pacifier.
- 15:48And so it's predictable they're going to add more time.
- 15:51So now it's up, you know quadrupled what it was in a
- 15:53couple years. They're realized.
- 15:54Well that ain't enough they'll double it again.
- 15:55Okay, this whole thing is absolutely stupid.
- 15:58It's pretty easy to demonstrate this whole universe cannot be
- 16:02billions of years old every Friday night on our channels.
- 16:05I'm on like 10 8 or 10 different channels.
- 16:07You can get them all on Doctor dyno.com.
- 16:09Go to Genesis Baptist Church on YouTube every Friday night
- 16:12normally except for tonight. I cover another scientific
- 16:15proof. The Earth is not billions of
- 16:17years old. So here's why you should care.
- 16:20If the Earth is indeed only 6,000 years old like lots of
- 16:23evidence points to it being only 6,000 years old.
- 16:25That would be another indicator that the Bible is correct.
- 16:29And I know you claim you don't believe this book and you don't
- 16:32think it's going to influence you it's going to influence
- 16:33everything you've ever thought about for the rest of your
- 16:36eternity whether you like it or not.
- 16:37You're right there. It has already influenced me.
- 16:40I was raised Southern Baptist. I was a devout map.
- 16:44Yes, I was about Christian. I used to go to church three
- 16:48times a week or more. I would take myself to church
- 16:51when my own parents didn't go to church.
- 16:55And this is when you were seven years old.
- 16:57That was after my dog bite instant.
- 17:00Yeah all the way up until I was 12.
- 17:03So I was told about my face. All right.
- 17:05Well, I hope you find it. I was virtually a child Minister
- 17:09and then later on when I was much older.
- 17:12I was one of the few who actually was about ready to get
- 17:17a scholarship to go study Seminary and Vatican.
- 17:21Okay. Well, I believe the scientific
- 17:24you mentioned about why should I care?
- 17:26What a book says, the scientific evidence says The Earth is not
- 17:31billions of years old man. Had to be designed.
- 17:33There has to be a Creator now whether you want it to be
- 17:36Lucifer or somebody else that's up to you.
- 17:38But there is a designer one cell in what human body is more
- 17:43complex than the whole internet system of the world.
- 17:47And one cell in your body if you took the DNA and unwounded each
- 17:51chromosome and tied them together one cells DNA would be
- 17:54six feet long. And if you took all 1500
- 17:58trillion cells in one person tied the DNA code together to
- 18:02stretched it out. It would go across the solar
- 18:04system twice. The scientific evidence is there
- 18:08was a really smart designer. And I think it was God himself
- 18:12who designed man. I would like Satanism has its
- 18:15own designer will know that there is a designer y'all
- 18:19DeVille the W urge also called sekel Or so any number names the
- 18:28Yahoo. We admit that.
- 18:30Yes, there is a designer and it is technically the Christian
- 18:33God. We don't say anything that there
- 18:35isn't one. So I don't know what you're
- 18:38trying to prove there. Well, maybe because I'm already
- 18:41on the same page as you and that's that's what I'm trying to
- 18:44say. There is um, okay.
- 18:46I know the DNA strands, you know, when you look into
- 18:50studyism. I don't know if you looked at
- 18:52setting anism one of the sigils for studyism is actually the DNA
- 18:57helix. So we're already thinking along
- 19:00the same lines. You don't have to try to prove
- 19:02anything DNA wise or something like that to me my question to
- 19:08you is so um, is that actually that image does not correlate To
- 19:14Us by the way, that's cool satanic marriages.
- 19:19You don't do that. Oh we do but we don't you
- 19:21certificates like that. We use a court document.
- 19:24Okay, I just found some interesting stuff.
- 19:27I haven't really I haven't really studied Satanism and what
- 19:31my life like I probably should have and I'm more important
- 19:34things to study but I just thought it was interesting.
- 19:36Well, I mean, you know, why would you study My Religion?
- 19:39You don't encounter us very often and you know, it's it's
- 19:43not like you're sitting here happening to defend yourself
- 19:45against us, whereas most satanists or even pagans are
- 19:50wickens are usually left having to defend her cells against
- 19:53Christians. So naturally we study Christian
- 19:55literature quite heavily right now.
- 19:58So you're not in the same position as I would be in.
- 20:02I was enlightened that a lot of the Satanic Bible stuff is from
- 20:09socialist Darwin writings. Like the book might is Right.
- 20:12A lot of stuff was copied directly from there the satanic
- 20:15temple. Let's see don't bring up satanic
- 20:18temple with me. I will chew them apart.
- 20:19They are not satanists. They have nothing to do with us.
- 20:22They're left wing nut jobs. We're trying to undermine our
- 20:26country. They do not represent Satanism.
- 20:29They do not represent our religion at all.
- 20:32Okay, so do the satanists argue as much as Christians argued
- 20:35between their denominations that you know, yeah.
- 20:40We do we do. You're sitting here and going
- 20:45like why even bother with when there's so much infighting and
- 20:49we look at you know, I'll even say when satanists look at
- 20:53Christiana. We're like they can all get
- 20:55along they can all agree on the same thing in them.
- 20:57You know, somebody like me who's been on the other side of
- 20:59people. I know some my clergies in the
- 21:02comments section right. Now who's also been in the
- 21:06Christian Clarity of or else it there and be like no the
- 21:10Christian denominations are all bickering and fighting just as
- 21:13much as we do. So yeah, I I got you there.
- 21:18All right. So the the thing that I'm Gonna
- 21:20Get Us started on is we're gonna start from the beginning here
- 21:24now as most of you've heard the difference between Mr. Lucifer
- 21:29and the other satanic groups is he's actually theistic believes
- 21:33in the Supernatural believes in concepts of God and all this as
- 21:37well as an actual devil is where these other groups you mentioned
- 21:41Kent. They are not the Asic.
- 21:43They're atheists to label themself.
- 21:45Atheistic Satanist. Now the question is we know Kent
- 21:49that you believe in a creation An Origin story where God
- 21:53creates man. Let's start with you Lucifer.
- 21:56Is there a creation story or did we come from something like a
- 22:01biogenesis which is the start of evolution?
- 22:05Well, yes, there is a creation story.
- 22:08And yes in bio of Genesis can also play into it.
- 22:12Most satanists were not adverse to embracing Evolution netism.
- 22:18But we're also very much so happy to embrace.
- 22:22Um, you know biblical stories certain ones.
- 22:25We also have our own stories within Satanism and some of them
- 22:31you can find in the Gnostic texts. um And yes, Adam, we call
- 22:38him yellow or the demiurge. That's the common names Forum.
- 22:44Um, then that's actually part of the Gnostic text.
- 22:48That's getting very popular or getting very popular among
- 22:52Satanist nowadays is embracing a lot of the Gnostic literature
- 22:57because the Gnostic literature says that salvation comes from
- 23:01freeing one's own mind, you're not sitting here trying to purge
- 23:07your sins you're accepting responsibility for your own
- 23:09actions and coming to peace with yourself and then coming to your
- 23:15own mind and becoming free of it.
- 23:19Satan represents man as just another animal sometimes better
- 23:23more often times worse than those that walk on all boards
- 23:26who because of his Divine spiritual intellectual
- 23:30development has become the most vicious animal of all that is
- 23:34written by Anton LaVey in the nine satanic statements.
- 23:38These statements are found at the beginning of the Satanic
- 23:42Bible. If you're interested in them,
- 23:46well, that's where you you had said in your and in your bio and
- 23:50stuff. It says you are in the
- 23:51thoroughly in society and followers of Anton LaVey and
- 23:54Anton LaVey I did research on him.
- 23:57If you're gonna be a sinner be the best sinner on the Block, so
- 24:00I guess my question to you who made the world in the universe.
- 24:02You think it was the god of the Bible that made the world?
- 24:05Well, we have like a couple different creators.
- 24:08Now the god of the Bible is called yelled to Beth and he's
- 24:13what's called a lesser creator. It's a very complicated story
- 24:18and one that I've actually admittedly I don't really read
- 24:21too much into Gnostic text. I've read enough to be familiar
- 24:24with the overall Concepts, but I couldn't quote you different
- 24:29sections. Um, but yellow debate off is a
- 24:33lesser Creator and he creates he's jealous of the Illuminator
- 24:39or the ultimate Creator which would be the deity of the
- 24:42universe. And he could the beauty of the
- 24:47universe created the universe. I mean, I I don't know how to
- 24:51explain all that well. A gal today off is jealous of
- 24:56this beauty and he wants to create his own pocket universe.
- 25:00So he creates his own pocket universe and he grabs a whole
- 25:03bunch of Souls, and he trapped him in a clay form and he starts
- 25:07treating him as slaves. And that's where we come in.
- 25:12So the god of the Bible is the Lesser Creator and the
- 25:15Illuminator. It sounds very similar to what
- 25:17the Bible says. Satan is an angel of Light.
- 25:19Is that Satan then is the greater Creator.
- 25:22So Satan Satan is over three. He's one of three beings one of
- 25:28three greater divinities. That teaches Adam on how to be
- 25:33free and you can find this in The Apocalypse of Adam that Adam
- 25:39is talking to Seth and teaching him the history and part of the
- 25:43Apocalypse. I was actually reading it
- 25:45earlier today to refresh myself because the apocalypse is Seth.
- 25:50Um, someone told me that this is actually the document that was
- 25:54separated counsel and I see a that was the second alternative
- 25:59ending that I actually contained that part that story.
- 26:04Um, so I was researching I was like, okay, let's just double
- 26:08check this. And so what The Apocalypse of
- 26:11Adam is is Adam is talking to Seth and he's teaching stuff in
- 26:16the 700th and 50th year of his life. um the his Origins and he
- 26:24states that you know, God created him and all this other
- 26:27stuff and then he found out that God wasn't who he was claiming
- 26:32to be and that him and eve were fearful and they served God as
- 26:36slaves and they literally uses that language.
- 26:39You can go research it. It's not a very long text.
- 26:43It's part of the Gnostic texts. So yeah, and he goes through he
- 26:50gives various things and then at the very bottom it talks about a
- 26:55group of people who resisted the power quote unquote.
- 26:59This is what Adam is referring to as being yelled at the bay
- 27:02authors sakal. Um, Sorry, I had a cat getting
- 27:10sick. Um.
- 27:13He says there's a group of people who resist the power.
- 27:18Who will be covered in darkness? And these people will be the
- 27:23illuminated ones. They're the ones who will be
- 27:26blessed after all of a sudden done and elevated to basically
- 27:31their own godhood status. All right, in order to repeat
- 27:36myself on this just to make sure that we have a foundation that
- 27:40go from from the start. Did we start from a biogenesis
- 27:45that some inanimate properties of materials evolve and become
- 27:50sentient alive or was there a creation account either by God
- 27:55or gods or whatever the case might be?
- 27:58That's where we I'm gonna go on record right now and say I am
- 28:01not a biophysicist. I am not a geneticist.
- 28:03I do not have any degrees in that and I cannot speak on that.
- 28:10Okay. Well, I under stood him to say
- 28:13that he believes there was a Creator God of the Bible is the
- 28:18Lesser Creator and the illuminated one, which I would
- 28:20take to be Satan is the greater Creator and those who follow his
- 28:24teachings are the illuminated ones the they're the brights.
- 28:27They're bright enough to know that the god of the Bible isn't
- 28:30true and Lucifer really is going to win in the end.
- 28:32So they're following what they think is going to be the winner
- 28:36and if they are enlightened by the enlightened one Satan the
- 28:40angel of Light then they get to go to wherever whatever happens
- 28:43when they die. What does happen when you die.
- 28:46Now that's actually a really good question.
- 28:48We do have a belief in how it's not something that we talk about
- 28:52most satanists don't know what happens when they die.
- 28:56I'm probably one of the few who actually, you know has been dead
- 29:00and can speak on it to a degree. Um, we go to hell happily.
- 29:07So hell is not what most people think of it.
- 29:10It is an underworld. It would be what the Greek
- 29:14underworld would have been described as there are places in
- 29:17hell that you don't want to go such as Tartarus which is the
- 29:20lowest depths of hell. We do believe that hell was
- 29:24reshaped from the Greek and Roman underworlds during the
- 29:30Fall we believe that there was a large battle thought that shook
- 29:35the cosmos to such a degree that it reshaped the underworld into
- 29:39the pit of Hell. And therefore you get sure Nine
- 29:44Circles or layers of hell, we believe that there are certain
- 29:48sections the upper layers that are more pleasant or they can
- 29:53sometimes be rough to be in and then we believe that the
- 29:56Ultimate lower levels is where the prisons are for those people
- 29:59who just can't get past themselves.
- 30:03Or they've done something really bad.
- 30:06Yeah, what would cause someone in your theology to go to the
- 30:09lowest part of hell? What do you mean?
- 30:11How do you define good and bad? What makes somebody go?
- 30:15Oh Lord generally speaking. It's not very often that a
- 30:19person would go to that section of hell.
- 30:22I'm not even sure on what would cause you know consummate enough
- 30:27bad going to that degree. If you I would say on a personal
- 30:32level if you've garnered yourself enough negative Karma
- 30:36or negative energy through your actions on Earth and you're just
- 30:40overall. There's a complete douchebag for
- 30:43whatever reason you're killing raping murdering doing all sorts
- 30:47of things that just generally we're malicious then yeah, you
- 30:51might end up going down that way but for most part what's causes
- 30:56you trouble and hell is not so much demons poking at you
- 31:01because you, you know had an affair or whatnot.
- 31:04It's your own guilt. Own personal Hang-Ups, if you
- 31:07can this is one of the things that a lot of people tend to
- 31:11forget with satanists, we don't need other people's forgiveness.
- 31:14We don't want other people's forgiveness because we have to
- 31:17come to terms with our own problems ourselves.
- 31:20We have to come to. the accepting of ourselves of our
- 31:27problems and what we do we call them the I keep on forgetting
- 31:36this word. Basically it is our own
- 31:39condemnation. So that's what it's it's our own
- 31:42personal condemnation. So if you die or you've lived
- 31:46your life in a state of constant anger, you're always angry at
- 31:50everybody or over stupid little things and that's gonna be 10
- 31:54fold a hundred fold in the afterlife.
- 31:58We get the lapping sound. That's my dog drinking.
- 32:02Um. if you die in a state of extreme group like if you commit
- 32:08suicide For example, you're gonna be weighed down by your
- 32:13own grief. You need to come to terms with
- 32:15your own problems and how that in order to move on.
- 32:19No One's Gonna be sitting there poking you in the ass with a
- 32:22pitchfork or sitting matches on fire between your toes you're
- 32:26not gonna be a land language and any like fire you're gonna be
- 32:31causing your own problems your own grease and you have to come
- 32:33to terms with them once you do you can move on So if you go I
- 32:41had there okay, if a person goes to hell they can then be good
- 32:46and work their way up inhale to these different levels.
- 32:49Is that your theology? That's sort of christianizing
- 32:53it. No.
- 32:54Yes, and no you work your way up by coming to terms with your own
- 33:00problems. You have to be at peace with
- 33:04your own so okay. Here's a good example years ago.
- 33:08I personally Lost my daughter, you know and it was due to my
- 33:14own inactions. I ended up doing some time in
- 33:16jail over it and you know, I haven't seen her years.
- 33:23I've had to come to grips come to terms with my own inactions
- 33:29in my own actions to be at peace with myself.
- 33:34Will I ever see her again? One day?
- 33:36Yeah, I hope so. But if I don't that I'm not
- 33:41gonna dwell on it and I'm gonna come to my own terms and forgive
- 33:45myself for my actions and try to do better with my son.
- 33:51So I don't repeat the same mistakes.
- 33:55Okay, I mentioned Yeah Yeah, you mentioned things like worse and
- 33:58better quite often here tonight. Where's your ruler?
- 34:01How do you measure what Anton LaVey said if you're going to be
- 34:05a sinner be the best sinner on the Block did Anton LaVey go to
- 34:09hell. I mean, apparently he wanted to
- 34:11be a sinner. How do you know?
- 34:14He but is he being punished in hell?
- 34:18Nope. he's having a good time in living his life.
- 34:23He's being in his happiest life. And yes, I'm one of those people
- 34:30who have astral projected. I have trained myself to do
- 34:33that. I have my own personal beliefs
- 34:35and I've written about them in my books where I've had my own
- 34:37personal encounters with Spirit of Anton LaVey as well as
- 34:41Michael Aquino and a few others. and yeah.
- 34:47So yes Antonov agents and Hell, he's not in heaven.
- 34:50He never repented on his deathbed.
- 34:53He was intubated. He couldn't say anything.
- 34:56He was a coma. He's in hell and he's happy for
- 35:02it. And how do you know that?
- 35:07Because I've been there. Oh, okay.
- 35:11So when the dog bit you when you were seven years old you went to
- 35:13hell for 20 minutes. Is that it?
- 35:16I went to the underworld I went to the afterlife.
- 35:18I saw some of this stuff. Okay.
- 35:23All right. Well, I'm always curious how a
- 35:27person who believes in evolution can determine right and wrong.
- 35:31I mean what exactly is right and wrong?
- 35:33Where's the standard? I've got a book that tells me
- 35:36Thou shalt not commit adultery. Okay.
- 35:38Is it okay for a Satanist to commit adultery?
- 35:43We have no rules against it, but I wouldn't you know, I've been a
- 35:49victim of adultery. You know my wife she walked down
- 35:52on me and my daughter to go be with a teenage boy.
- 35:55Do you think I'm gonna be a very big fan of adultery on a
- 35:58personal level? No, I've seen the damage it can
- 36:01actually do I've seen the damage you can do to entire families
- 36:05what I say that that's a good thing.
- 36:08No. what I would say is use your best judgment, we and Satanism
- 36:14and you brought up you pulled up some of our different lists of
- 36:20Personal commands and whatnot the ninth satanic sins the 11th
- 36:26stack rules of the Earth in the 9th 10x statements.
- 36:28Oh for you here. The nine satanic statements this
- 36:34right here. Yes, that's the very first one.
- 36:37If you give me a second here, I can pull it up in my book.
- 36:40So I don't have to try to explain it your screen there.
- 36:44So we can we can go over them together there.
- 36:49Yeah, I should have blown up the whole thing where you can read
- 36:51it more here. But I only blew up this point.
- 36:53I got it right here. I actually got it right here.
- 36:57So the first statement says Satan represents Indulgence
- 37:01instead of astinence. What does this basically mean?
- 37:05Basically means live your best life up.
- 37:08That's good. That's live your best life.
- 37:12And don't don't try to restrain yourself too much.
- 37:17Actually a really cute children's book that goes over
- 37:21many of these statements each story in the book is a lesson on
- 37:25how to on how these statements are supposed to be taken.
- 37:29Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe
- 37:33dreams. Well for most part many
- 37:35satanists don't know what happens in the afterlife.
- 37:38So they choose not to focus on it instead.
- 37:41They choose to focus on the here now Satan is the god of the
- 37:44flesh after all. Satan represents undefiled
- 37:49wisdom instead of hypocritical self-dece now, this is one of
- 37:52the more philosophical ones in these and these ones underpiled
- 37:59wisdom instead of hypocritical self deceit the critical self
- 38:03deceit we Define as lying to yourself about yourself you say
- 38:07that you're not doing going to be a certain way.
- 38:11Um such as you know, you have a gay guy who's you know, sitting
- 38:15there trying to pretend that he's straight and yet he's got
- 38:20these predilections well for us we'll sit there will talk to
- 38:24ourselves. We will literally self analyze
- 38:27ourself and we will be completely honest with The Good
- 38:30The Bad and The Ugly and so we will get to know ourselves.
- 38:34This is undefiled wisdom. Okay, so we're not going to
- 38:38listen to any outside criticisms of ourselves.
- 38:41We're just going to criticize ourselves and find our own
- 38:45personal truths whether we like it or not.
- 38:50Something represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of
- 38:53Love wasted on in grades. I'm pretty sure you could agree
- 38:57with that Ken. You know, you get somebody who's
- 38:59just going to sit there and belittle you constantly are you
- 39:02really going to want to give them your time a day or let
- 39:05alone half of your life? You know, so you're saying what
- 39:11what Tim Anton LaVey said here is Satan represents kindness to
- 39:16those who deserve it but don't waste love on other people
- 39:19right? Whereas Jesus would say, you
- 39:22know, love everyone, right? Yeah.
- 39:23And here's the next one. You're gonna like this Satan
- 39:29represents Vengeance instead of turning the other cheek.
- 39:31Now in the Satanic Bible, there is actually a statement that
- 39:36follows along with that and Jesus said that should a man
- 39:40Smite you on One Cheek give him your other am I correct?
- 39:44right Okay in Satanism, we say should a man Smite you on One
- 39:50Cheek smash him in his other kick him hip and thigh give Doom
- 39:56for Doom blow her blow scorn for scorn and when he goes his way
- 40:01he shall have much new wisdom to ruminate over.
- 40:08Okay, basically we stand up for ourselves.
- 40:12We don't sit there and act like a dog that rolls on its back
- 40:17when kicked. But right so Satanism is in
- 40:22many. aspects here the exact opposite of Christianity is that
- 40:28the reasonable, you know, all the way is yes in a lot of ways
- 40:31but in a lot of ways you'd find it very parallel to it's very
- 40:36interesting because a lot of Christians nowadays are
- 40:39conservatives. Well, they would be very
- 40:42surprised to find that we're conservatives too.
- 40:44Unlike the satanic temple or the recent Church Satan.
- 40:48That's not even go there. Um satanists in Anton lavase
- 40:52time. We're very conservative.
- 40:54We didn't we don't believe in abortion.
- 40:57We don't support that. We think it's an Abomination.
- 40:59Most of us are Republicans were right Wingers and you know,
- 41:04generally we believe not going out and bothering people.
- 41:09And we believe that if person tries to bother us, we have to
- 41:12stop if they don't stop. Well, that's when things get
- 41:16fun. All right.
- 41:18Well Brett, I think we got a lot of questions coming in.
- 41:21I'd like to hear his answer to somebody else's questions if you
- 41:24got anything there. All right.
- 41:25All right. I mean originally the discussion
- 41:28and I think it's great what you guys been talking about, but we
- 41:32were supposed to kind of direct our discussion towards Evolution
- 41:36and I guess one of the things I'm a little miffed about here
- 41:40is as a did we actually come from some kind of inanimate
- 41:45object atheist believe we came from rocks and Juice came out of
- 41:48it some snot God hit by lightning it became alive.
- 41:54Did animals actually become other kinds of animals as
- 41:58Evolution talks about or are we fully as Evolution goal
- 42:03oriented? Let's go with that as evolution
- 42:06goal-oriented. I would say oh, I mean, I'm on
- 42:13evolutionist. Yeah, that's just my personal
- 42:15belief. What do I have to back that up?
- 42:17It's just my belief. It's how I was raised.
- 42:22All right, so you both you both realize after having
- 42:26conversations with evolutionists.
- 42:28They usually believe some kind of random chaotic material and
- 42:33properties came together and formed this and creatures change
- 42:37after Time After Time magic is time for them.
- 42:40So is this goal oriented is the gods behind this according to
- 42:46you Lucifer is what I'm getting out. well if we listen to
- 42:51Gnosticism than we would say y'all debate off did it?
- 42:55But we throw also into other aspects of Satanism such as
- 43:00cthulianism as I said before we all so cthulhanism is a element
- 43:05of Satanism most of the time we use it as our end times story,
- 43:10but in lovecraft's literature, he has a creation story where
- 43:15humans were created by Elder things by what we would call
- 43:20elder Gods which would be aliens that we just don't understand.
- 43:23They're beyond our understanding.
- 43:26Could that be possible? I don't see why not and if
- 43:28that's the case then wouldn't that sort of fit in with Brett's
- 43:32theories as well? All right.
- 43:36So Lucifer one of the reasons why I'm putting this out there
- 43:40and I hope this isn't confusing for folks, but you in Kent are
- 43:44similar and that you believe in the concept of God and the devil
- 43:48right? It's just you have some
- 43:50different ideas on how he's represented.
- 43:52The issue is here. Did God create us fully man and
- 43:58woman or did we evolve out of some mud or some kind of pond or
- 44:04what? I'm getting at?
- 44:08Like I said before Brad, I don't know.
- 44:11I'm not a time traveler. I didn't go back in time in my
- 44:15DeLorean to go see the creation of man or the creation of life
- 44:19on Earth. All I know is that we're here
- 44:21now, we had to have a point of origin whether that's Evolution
- 44:25or creationist. I am not qualified to say I have
- 44:30my personal beliefs and that's where I'm gonna stick.
- 44:33All right, of course one another people.
- 44:36Well, let's let's go this route then.
- 44:38Oh, okay. Oh boy, um, how does evolution
- 44:44play a part and also your theology?
- 44:51well Evolution, you know as part of everything is most satanists
- 44:56were darwinest and can't pointed that out.
- 45:00We're Darwin a social darwiness. We're all so a lot of us are
- 45:04very Evolution based. And that's mostly because most
- 45:08satanists especially nowadays have no understanding of
- 45:11spiritual Concepts. I'm not going to sit here and
- 45:15say that evolution is wrong. I'm not going to say it's right.
- 45:19But what I will say is that the Earth is definitely far older
- 45:24than 6,000 years old and I'm not going to say that a flood
- 45:29separated and organized all the bones. by weight class Um into
- 45:36different layers simply put when we look at that that would mean
- 45:39all layers would have had to try at the same time.
- 45:44I have not seen anything that proves that or disproves that so
- 45:48all right. Well, I love you both, but I'm
- 45:52gonna try one more thing and if this doesn't work for you both
- 45:55and I'm gonna just let you guys do what you want to do on this
- 45:59did we come from primate are we some form of monkey that turned
- 46:05into the sophisticated some what man that we are now.
- 46:10I'm gonna let can't go first on this one.
- 46:12I'm gonna let him have some fun. Absolutely not.
- 46:16We were created in God's image and it wasn't Lucifer Lucifer's
- 46:19the loser. He's going to lose in the end.
- 46:21He did not create anything. He saw God create things and
- 46:25wants to take credit for it and he made up some dumb books like
- 46:27the Satanic Bible to get people to believe in it.
- 46:29But no Lucifer's the loser. He's gonna be cast into hell we
- 46:32were made in God's image. We have descended we have
- 46:34degenerated from that into our modern society today man is not
- 46:39evolved and improved from apes up to humans.
- 46:41No that opposites happened. Some are acting like apes now,
- 46:45but now we're made in God's image, okay.
- 46:49Yes Apes did develop into a humanoid primate, but I think
- 46:56I've made this point very clear Homo Sapien and Neanderthals
- 47:00were living at the same time. However, we have a clear cut.
- 47:06Oh Kent. I'm getting an echo from you.
- 47:09Yeah, we got a mute our mics when the other person's talk and
- 47:13we're gonna have all that problems.
- 47:14Go ahead. You can't we have we have a
- 47:19clear-cut evolutionary ladder up until Neanderthal man.
- 47:23However, we do not have an evolutionary ladder to Homo
- 47:28Sapien our species of human our species of human popped up out
- 47:33of nowhere. Where's The Missing Link at what
- 47:36point did the eight separate and start developing into us?
- 47:41We don't have that. We don't even have anything that
- 47:44states that we develop from neanderthalmat.
- 47:47As a matter of fact, there is scientific evidence actually
- 47:50overwhelming scientific evidence that states that we were present
- 47:55at the exact same time as Neanderthal man and that You
- 48:00know, we were even possibly interbreeding with them.
- 48:05How is this possible? Where did we come from?
- 48:10Um, forget the cat noises my cats are about to fight. so No,
- 48:17yes, and no. Yes, he humanoids developed from
- 48:22apes but where did we come from? We seem to pop up out of
- 48:26nowhere. You know Kent's bringing up some
- 48:29good pictures here. Can we see a can you find a
- 48:32picture can of Neanderthal man's head compared to Homo Sapien
- 48:37head? Yeah, something like that.
- 48:40How do we get from one to the other?
- 48:48Unfortunately mutants. Okay.
- 48:50Okay, the same designer made the Apes and the humans but there
- 48:56are thousands and thousands of differences the fact that there
- 48:58are some similarities proves the same designer.
- 49:00No relationship. Nobody's ever seen a baby and
- 49:03eight produce a non-8 baby or a monkey produce a non-monkey or a
- 49:07gorilla produce a non gorilla or human produce a non-human the
- 49:10whole evolutionary Although evolutionary sequence is Pure
- 49:15Imagination. It doesn't happen in nature.
- 49:18It's a pipe dream somebody smoking marijuana and made up
- 49:21these charts about all us coming from an amiibo or something like
- 49:24that. It's real stupid.
- 49:26Tell him I said, so there is no evidence at all of any animal
- 49:31ever producing something other than their same kind.
- 49:35But they make these dumb family trees.
- 49:37I'll show you one here here. They've got all here we go, but
- 49:41the top that's box right there. All the humans evolving from an
- 49:46ape like ants this isn't a public school textbook that kids
- 49:48have to learn from I believe all the butterflies probably had a
- 49:52common ancestor, but that does not prove butterflies had a
- 49:54common ancestor with frogs and fish.
- 49:57So these family trees are pure bologna.
- 50:00They're Pure Imagination. I think it's criminal to teach
- 50:03that to children at taxpayer expense if some person wishes to
- 50:07believe a protozoa turn to a human there can have all the
- 50:10beliefs they want. I don't care but it shouldn't be
- 50:12tax-funded to teach that to the kids.
- 50:15So I think Evolution as I said many times is the dumbest and
- 50:18most dangerous religion in the world nothing but a religion
- 50:21we've never seen eight producing on ape or a gorilla produce a
- 50:26non-gorilla. It's just simply imagination and
- 50:29they're welcome to believe that and I stopped you for a quick
- 50:31second. Sorry.
- 50:32I don't mean to stop your role. I'll just this seems to be
- 50:35something that you and I would actually be able to agree on am
- 50:39I correct in stating that there is nothing in the fossil record
- 50:43that shows where Homo sapiens diverged from Neanderthal man.
- 50:51I would go further than that say there's no such thing as a
- 50:54fossil record. There are fossils billion
- 50:56trillions of them. All fossils indicate is they die
- 50:59when you find a fossil in the ground, all you could prove is
- 51:02it died? You could not prove it had any
- 51:04children or certainly any different children.
- 51:05All we know is this clam died? Okay.
- 51:08I don't know if it had any children or not.
- 51:10So and we certainly don't see anything today alive producing
- 51:14offspring that are different than their own kind humans make
- 51:17maybe humans every single time. Okay, so idea how many tree is
- 51:22Imagination? Well, whether you believe in the
- 51:27family trees is your choice, but am I in a simple yes or no
- 51:33answer nothing attitude. Is my assessment, correct?
- 51:38There is no evidence of humans of Apes turning into humans or
- 51:43humans coming from apes be a fossils or any other method.
- 51:46We know there are thousands of DNA differences.
- 51:48So if I get your question exactly if I don't want to give
- 51:51I don't want to be locked into a yes or no answer without a
- 51:54qualifier, but there is no evidence of in fossils that have
- 51:57been found of any animal turning into something else none.
- 52:02Okay, so that that would actually be I am correct on that
- 52:06and that's something that we can agree on he want, you know, Kent
- 52:10wants to go further into details on it.
- 52:12That's fine. But there is no records showing
- 52:17where Homo Sapien split off from the rest of the monkey family
- 52:22into what we are now. So in that we have something
- 52:28going on here that would be to creationists where in the
- 52:32history of the earth. Does that happen?
- 52:33That's debatable, you know can't want to say that the Earth is
- 52:38what 6,8000 years old. Correct me here.
- 52:41Yeah 6,000 that's what the Bible says add up to.
- 52:45Okay. Thank you.
- 52:47He won't say that. It's 6,000 years old.
- 52:50I believe that the Earth is much older than that and that you
- 52:53human kind has only been around her maybe about Million years or
- 53:00so not even hundred and thirty thousand years probably that's a
- 53:06pretty small amount of time frame when you look at the
- 53:08entire time age of the planet and that's about the only time
- 53:12that I want to give a shit about the age of the planet.
- 53:19Right on my video series. I show lots of scientific ways
- 53:23to show this whole planet cannot be billions of years old.
- 53:26For example, the Earth is spinning, but it slows down
- 53:29every day. And excuse me.
- 53:31They know why title frictions Coriolis effect Etc.
- 53:34The prevailing wind patterns the lunar drag, you know, the Earth
- 53:40is slowing down. There's no question.
- 53:41They know it is and you cannot keep slowing down for billions
- 53:44of years until you stop. And if you go back billions of
- 53:48years the earth would have been spinning so fast, no life could
- 53:50be here from lots of reasons. So the spinning I covered every
- 53:54Friday night on the Genesis Baptist Church Channel each one
- 53:57a different topic of how to prove the Earth simply can't be
- 54:00billions of years old. The moon goes around the Earth,
- 54:03but the moon's getting further away.
- 54:04They know that it's leaving us. About an inch and a half a year.
- 54:10All the people who studied this said the lunar problem is you go
- 54:13back bring the moon in closer 1.4 billion years ago the orbit
- 54:17snapped together. It is simply not you drink water
- 54:23there Brett our kid. No, I need to I need to quit.
- 54:27I've been talking too much this week.
- 54:28My throat's killing me. But oh here can't you want to
- 54:32get you some water real quick or something to drink?
- 54:35No, I've got water here. I got water.
- 54:37I'm drinking it. But my video number one of my
- 54:40series you can get on Genesis Baptist Church goes to about 30
- 54:43different scientific indicators. The Earth cannot be billions of
- 54:47years old forget the Bible. It can't be scientifically for
- 54:50simple reasons that are covered under number one.
- 54:55All right. Yeah.
- 54:57Well Kent's trying to get his coughing under control.
- 55:01Let's give him a break and whatnot because he looked at the
- 55:04poor man looks like he's about ready to die there.
- 55:06All right, I'm sorry. I got a rib on you there can't
- 55:09okay. Oh, we'll get him some tea or
- 55:14something. But go ahead.
- 55:14Yeah. Yeah.
- 55:15It's on my coffee. Yeah, Brett.
- 55:19It's been an hour and I really had a long day.
- 55:21I think we've covered we've both clearly expounded our positions.
- 55:25I think I disagree with him. He disagrees with me.
- 55:27He thinks Lucifer is the great Creator.
- 55:29I think Lucifer's the loser. And I think he's gonna bow
- 55:32before Jesus Christ one day even Lucifer is going to Bow before
- 55:35Jesus Christ. He's gonna be cast into hell and
- 55:38it ain't a party down there at all.
- 55:39You called the Lake of Fire. Well, let's let's wrap it off
- 55:43with one with me asking Kent one final question.
- 55:46Okay. That that sound fair to you can
- 55:50sure. Okay.
- 55:52Now you say Satan's gonna be the loser.
- 55:55Okay that I'm gonna go to hell and it's not a party down there.
- 56:00What would happen say, you're right say hell is not a nice
- 56:04place. and whether I go down there or not is completely
- 56:08regardless what if let's say What happens if You've done
- 56:14something in you we were mentioning how all the different
- 56:17denominations that Satanism and Christianity are always in in
- 56:22fighting and whatnot and everybody saying, oh, I'm right
- 56:25you're wrong. I'm right you're wrong.
- 56:26What would you do if one of the other denominations was right
- 56:29and you were the one that was wrong and you ended up going to
- 56:32help that you were not raptured with the rest of the chosen ones
- 56:38from you know by God. How would you react if you're in
- 56:43that position? I would then say that God Must
- 56:46Have Lied because he promised whosoever shall call upon the
- 56:49name of the Lord shall be saved 55 years ago.
- 56:52I said Lord, I'm a sinner. Would you please forgive me and
- 56:54save me and something changed inside of me just like something
- 56:58changing inside of you for whatever experiences.
- 57:00You've had the Bible calls it receiving receiving the
- 57:03receiving Jesus Christ. It's like receiving a seed the
- 57:07seed when you stick it in the dirt.
- 57:08The seed knows how to make a tree not the dirt.
- 57:11I'm the dirt. Jesus is the seed I received him
- 57:14and he's growing a whole new person inside of me.
- 57:16So I think if it's all wrong and we end up dying turning back to
- 57:20start us. I've had a wonderful life if I
- 57:22had to do over again, I would do it the same way and I serve the
- 57:26Lord. It's not that I don't know any
- 57:30better. I'm looking at the very I'm
- 57:31willing to listen to your religion what you believe.
- 57:33I'm willing to listen any religion.
- 57:35I've studied most of the major denominations.
- 57:37I've grown a series of books. Why I'm not a Catholic why I'm
- 57:41not I didn't write the book. I did.
- 57:42I've been videos on that but we have books on that why I'm not a
- 57:46Jehovah's Witness. I study what they believe I say.
- 57:48Okay, I can't be that why I'm not a calvinist why I'm not a
- 57:51Seventh-Day Adventist. Why I'm not a Catholic Oh, I'm
- 57:55willing to listen to what they believe tell me what you believe
- 57:57why I'm not a Muslim. I'm not against these other
- 58:00religions. I just want the truth and I
- 58:02think I found it. I think Jesus Christ is the way
- 58:05the truth and the life and he's my savior.
- 58:08So if I end up going to hell God will God must align.
- 58:13That's a very interesting statement.
- 58:15I have no I will say that I have never heard a Christian say that
- 58:19God is even capable of lying. Thank you for that.
- 58:22That was very anointed. I definitely hold it.
- 58:26I did not say is capable of like I said if I end up going to hell
- 58:29then he would have lied, so I'm not going to hell.
- 58:31I don't believe I am for a second.
- 58:33But I didn't know say he's capable of why the Bible says
- 58:35God cannot I Lucifer's the liar. He's the father of lies and you
- 58:38swallowed him. Well that that's good anyways.
- 58:44I know you got to get going Kent.
- 58:46Thank you for taking your time to speak with me today.
- 58:49Yeah, well come visit Lex Alabama.
- 58:52We'll get your converted. You can give you the tour here
- 58:54and have a wonderful time, but love to have you.
- 58:57Okay, apologize Brett. Thank you so much and Thank you.
- 59:01Make sure you get you some hot, you know him.
- 59:07Brett do not drink tea don't you know about tea?
- 59:10There was an Indian once that drank four gallons of iced tea
- 59:13that night. He drowned in his teepee.
- 59:15That stuff's dangerous. Alright, thank you so much to
- 59:22check out Dr. Dino.com our website Dr. Dino.
- 59:26Thank you so much. Thank you for stopping by their
- 59:31Kent. Let's go ahead and put them
- 59:33below anybody that wants to come in.
- 59:36I'm gonna put a link out in the comments and here we go.
- 59:39Yeah, that was very interesting to see the least.
- 59:47Um, I I he it even hint at the concept that God might applied.
- 59:52I've never heard a Christian even say that and yes, he did
- 59:55walk that back because you know, the simple fact that he said if
- 59:59if this doesn't happen that means god why then he walked her
- 1:00:02back and opens. Like whoa, I didn't mean it that
- 1:00:04way. But you know, I'm gonna I'm
- 1:00:07gonna point out that when we look into Genesis and the you
- 1:00:12know, I know I've gotten this pushback for many Christians
- 1:00:14before is God said to Adam do not eat of the tree of knowledge
- 1:00:19of good and evil, or if you do within that day you shall surely
- 1:00:23die. And you know, of course, we know
- 1:00:27that Adam and Eve they actually ate are the fruit and they
- 1:00:30didn't die and there was no indicated.
- 1:00:34He didn't. I encourage people to pull out
- 1:00:37their Bible open up Book of Genesis.
- 1:00:39Look at that section. God didn't say that.
- 1:00:41You shall surely die. Spiritually.
- 1:00:44He didn't say you shall surely die in a hundred years or 1000
- 1:00:49years. He said within that day now we
- 1:00:53have to assume that God being the creator of all things
- 1:00:56including night and day would understand the difference
- 1:00:59between a day and a night and year hundred years and thousand
- 1:01:03years. Um, he said within that day you
- 1:01:06shall surely die. And that was the first line.
- 1:01:10That's right there in the Bible if we're to take the Bible as
- 1:01:14the very writ of God then. Right there God is the father of
- 1:01:18Lies. Well folks I put the link out
- 1:01:25there if anyone wants to join us and be part of the discussion
- 1:01:29and let us know what you think. If you have any questions for
- 1:01:32Mr. Lucifer come on and now is the time.
- 1:01:36Oh looks like we got Darth Ronaldo.
- 1:01:41Yeah, yeah. I was just about to say hey
- 1:01:47while we're waiting for somebody to come in.
- 1:01:48Why don't I quickly go run and get myself another cup of coffee
- 1:01:51or something. Yeah.
- 1:01:53I was hoping guys gonna touch more on the theological aspects
- 1:01:57rather, you know, the the script is kind of reserved for the you
- 1:02:00know, the evolutionists. So like I said, like I kind of
- 1:02:03want to just stay away from the evolution thing because I know
- 1:02:06that's that's Kent's thing and I wanted to I mean it went
- 1:02:11actually pretty well. I enjoyed it and Yeah, yeah,
- 1:02:17because I forget how I have a question.
- 1:02:20I think it's interesting because like when the Angels Rebel they
- 1:02:25rebelled in heaven, but Heaven is supposed to be this perfect
- 1:02:29place where they could be no evil.
- 1:02:30And yeah, you know, here's a clear example in quote unquote
- 1:02:34evil. But like let's say let's say all
- 1:02:39you know questions go to heaven aren't questions afraid or, you
- 1:02:43know, somewhere in the back of their mind wondering could this
- 1:02:46for vote happen with them because technically humans are
- 1:02:49supposed to be considered this creation that is less self,
- 1:02:53which is in less self-control in the in the in the angels.
- 1:03:00Somehow couldn't control themselves.
- 1:03:03And started laughing after human females, especially, you know,
- 1:03:06it's clearly they lost after a God's creation because it is
- 1:03:10perfect. I mean you look at the female
- 1:03:11bottom. Oh man even angels lost it after
- 1:03:15it. It's an amazing story.
- 1:03:18The Gregory made it with the daughters of men Nobel nobone
- 1:03:22the bad. I mean they like that apple
- 1:03:23bottom for the exactly for a reason it wasn't because you
- 1:03:27know, they had a great personality because of their
- 1:03:30looks. It's I mean because if you ask a
- 1:03:33creation is what is the definition of creationism?
- 1:03:35It is defined as the work of beauty.
- 1:03:40And the human body is the perfect Beauty because it it is,
- 1:03:44you know referral from him and bodies.
- 1:03:46I know yes don't mind. I'm sorry my middle age.
- 1:03:50I've kind of gotten the middle age spread and yeah, you know, I
- 1:03:55should probably hit the gym more.
- 1:03:56Yeah, you know in platonic idea. It's just same as the perfect
- 1:03:59circle. No Perfect Circle exists, but
- 1:04:01you know, we're reference in this idea of perfection.
- 1:04:05You know and that that's that's actually quite true.
- 1:04:09Hey, can I go ahead and take my leave really quickly to go get a
- 1:04:14cup of coffee and then I'll be right back.
- 1:04:15Sure. Okay.
- 1:04:17All right. Give me like five minutes.
- 1:04:20I'm gonna go to the bathroom a little aliens room and do my own
- 1:04:24thing. All right.
- 1:04:25I'll be back in like five minutes.
- 1:04:26All right, so dark, how's your day?
- 1:04:29Been? What have you been doing?
- 1:04:33procrastinating no, I try to like figure out how to work a
- 1:04:39new software. Like I figure it out, it's
- 1:04:42software. It's not easy.
- 1:04:43It's not that difficult to figure out but like it's just
- 1:04:47trying like actually do the work for it.
- 1:04:50Okay software you dealing with what you trying to accomplish
- 1:04:54currently right now. I'm working with a live 2D which
- 1:04:58is like like and it's like animation.
- 1:05:01It's no different than you know, keep framing on a regular video.
- 1:05:05It's essentially that but with less frames and parameters
- 1:05:13That's it question for you, since we're getting off of this
- 1:05:17discussion that we were doing. I got something for you and see
- 1:05:20how you go with that. Let's say that I were to give
- 1:05:23you the most awesome computer in the world with all the greatest
- 1:05:27design software that you can imagine every paint program
- 1:05:31every sentient AI that you could think of do you think that it
- 1:05:36would be possible? If you were not to put your
- 1:05:39hands on the keyboard or mess with the computer that over time
- 1:05:43something would start coming to life within the properties and
- 1:05:47materials of the system. Absolutely not.
- 1:05:51Because what is life defined by atheist life is defined as body
- 1:05:57and spirits. so in this means you need a body for which the
- 1:06:03spirit to inhabit many. Many theistic evolutionists and
- 1:06:09evolution could consider the brain to be some sort of a
- 1:06:12computer that randomly assembled itself.
- 1:06:14It's not it's it's more akin to a radio and it it's a rate of
- 1:06:19Simply. Captures the signal from the
- 1:06:22spirit and that makes your body move.
- 1:06:24This is why you don't have a heat problem with the brain as
- 1:06:27you do with computers. That's why you put, you know a
- 1:06:30fan cooler. On a CPU because the amounts of
- 1:06:34heat because due to the processing but the brain doesn't
- 1:06:38have this heat problem because it's not a computer and the same
- 1:06:41way, you know, you can put endless amounts of radio music
- 1:06:45to endless amount of music through your radios Never Gonna
- 1:06:47heat up. Because it's not actually
- 1:06:49processing that music. It just happens a signal.
- 1:06:57That's fair enough. Okay, let me try one more thing
- 1:07:00on you and see what you say to this.
- 1:07:03Do. You know what the smallest
- 1:07:04passage in the Bible is? I believe it's the first.
- 1:07:12In the game was where yeah, Jesus.
- 1:07:15What does the smallest Bible verse that ever existed in the
- 1:07:20book? There's nothing shorter or
- 1:07:22smaller than that. Do you believe that those
- 1:07:24specific words could come into existence without a sentient
- 1:07:29being or mind? Is it possible that nature could
- 1:07:33somehow create those two words without any assistance of the
- 1:07:37Mind? No. no, because like but even
- 1:07:43then like where's the information coming from like for
- 1:07:46example atheists or not able to transfer what we're logic
- 1:07:50conference from because they have no grounding for logic and
- 1:07:53this is a argument that is constantly used against them.
- 1:07:56Because what gives? What gets something logic is its
- 1:08:03order? And so you'll never you know.
- 1:08:07You know a name doesn't arrange itself from Randomness a pencil
- 1:08:10doesn't pick up itself and start writing a name.
- 1:08:13Mia does the wind just like randomly just pick up a pencil,
- 1:08:17but even then it's in the same way the the music on a vinyl is
- 1:08:23not off the plastic but merely on the plastic so it's merely
- 1:08:28data that is in printed on the vinyl.
- 1:08:32It's imprinted on the plastic but it's not something that's
- 1:08:36coming off the plastic. It's not the source.
- 1:08:39It's simply something implanted on the plastic of vinyl.
- 1:08:45So when you hear people actually claim that life can come from
- 1:08:49inanimate properties that we're not originally alive.
- 1:08:53What goes through your head when you hear things like that are
- 1:08:56claims like that. I think that crazy.
- 1:08:59I think it's nonsense. I think they need to go to like
- 1:09:01immensely Institute. It's crazy.
- 1:09:06Don't even as another question for you.
- 1:09:09Why do you think it is that when people have discussions about
- 1:09:13Evolution or debate it they always show cartoons or CGI or
- 1:09:18animations? Why is it that they rarely ever
- 1:09:22use anything? That's actual realistic.
- 1:09:24Why do you guys think that is welcome back please for because
- 1:09:28they're using comic book logic then you I didn't need it.
- 1:09:34They need to dispense of reality to make it. workable because
- 1:09:40like reality is singing in the way.
- 1:09:41How do we get rid of how do we get rid of reality?
- 1:09:44Well, we make it up and Imagination then and then we get
- 1:09:48reality and then our model makes sense quote unquote makes sense.
- 1:09:54Got a question for you Lucifer during the discussion with Kent
- 1:09:58you were you mentioned a couple times.
- 1:10:00I heard you say on a prior show that the belief is is that
- 1:10:04Neanderthal and humans actually had sex and they actually
- 1:10:08procreated and reproduced how do you know this?
- 1:10:11How do you know that actually happened besides here and it on
- 1:10:15television or the animal channel?
- 1:10:17Oh, that's good question. Um.
- 1:10:21Like I said, yes, I am. I was raised evolutionist, um
- 1:10:25humans and Neanderthals show up side by side.
- 1:10:28Sometimes literally in the same. Fossil pit where they're being
- 1:10:33dug up. Um, they we literally have mummy
- 1:10:37neanderthals. We have money humans and they
- 1:10:40have searched in DNA and they found in certain humans neander
- 1:10:45called dma and then another human's node Neanderthal DNA.
- 1:10:49Why is that? How is it that some people?
- 1:10:53Oh nowadays have the same DNA as Neanderthal man.
- 1:10:58Were others don't well that would indicate.
- 1:11:02That there is mating going on. But more so it indicates that
- 1:11:07two different species of human existed at the same time.
- 1:11:13That would mean Homo Sapien neanderthals would have existed
- 1:11:16at the same time. Were they could intermate?
- 1:11:21Did it happen often? I don't know.
- 1:11:23But right there, you know. You're looking at DNA.
- 1:11:26You know, it Kent was talking, you know, bringing up the whole
- 1:11:29DNA subject thing. Well, I mentioned that
- 1:11:32insidianism which is sort of advanced labanism.
- 1:11:37Part of some of our sigils involved in sedianism involved
- 1:11:42the DNA Helix going around. It's really interesting.
- 1:11:46And so I was already right on the same page as him in a lot of
- 1:11:51ways. But we don't the main point is
- 1:11:54is neanderthal. They've been able to track the
- 1:11:59Neanderthals Evolution but homo sapiens.
- 1:12:03We seem to pop up out of nowhere and it's inexplicable.
- 1:12:06Why? and when you look at the DNA our
- 1:12:10DNA now there is a large portion of the population that do not
- 1:12:14have Neanderthal DNA, but then there is a like I think it's
- 1:12:18like a 20 maybe less percent of the population.
- 1:12:22That actually does have neanderthals DNA.
- 1:12:27So let's say that that actually happened though.
- 1:12:30Let's say that there was another humanoid type of creature out
- 1:12:33there that looked a lot like humans but had some differences
- 1:12:37in their skull. If even if we were to destroy it
- 1:12:41all out and say that's what happened.
- 1:12:43They had sex they got their their nasty on they bumped in
- 1:12:46the night all that good stuff. How would that in any kind of
- 1:12:50way tell us that we came from the ape like creatures that we
- 1:12:54see running around in the jungle?
- 1:13:00I don't know. I think I think guys nowadays
- 1:13:06want to stick their winky in that.
- 1:13:09It shouldn't go in. Well, I agree with let's get
- 1:13:14some of it be cross breeding all too possible and look at the
- 1:13:18history of humanity. When we look into the Legends
- 1:13:21and War we clearly see that there are elections of
- 1:13:26crossbreeded cross-bred humans with various animalistic
- 1:13:30features. Could that be possible?
- 1:13:34Why not? Could there have been numerous
- 1:13:37different species of human? I wouldn't see why not.
- 1:13:41I mean we have different species of dog catfish.
- 1:13:45You know you look at how many pickled retrievers for instance?
- 1:13:49You have golden retrievers. Um, and then you have a Black
- 1:13:53Version. I forget what they're called,
- 1:13:55but Going retrievers they're just big sweet gentle dog.
- 1:14:01Actually a better one would be Labrador Retrievers, you know,
- 1:14:04you have your golden labs your yellow labs and you have your
- 1:14:08chocolate labs your black labs. Wow, different species
- 1:14:11Labradoodles. But yeah, but I got them
- 1:14:16interesting question for Darth as well as you Mr. Lucifer.
- 1:14:19Let's say that we were digging in the dirt we decided we wanted
- 1:14:23to be amateur archaeologists and we found us we found us an
- 1:14:27unusual skull that looks kind of ape like but kind of human a
- 1:14:32little bit how would we be able to tell the difference between
- 1:14:35an actual ape skull human skull from something that was disabled
- 1:14:40or something that was affected by radiation that deformed
- 1:14:46That's a that's an interesting question now.
- 1:14:49Well, first off I think birth defects from radiation happen
- 1:14:53over time. If it's just something that was
- 1:14:56born that way then. One of the first places I would
- 1:15:00look at to determine whether it's homo sapien or something.
- 1:15:04Like that would be the zoo go to a zoo, you know figure out where
- 1:15:09this could have come from comparatively to living fossils
- 1:15:13living records and then if that failed if I had to determine
- 1:15:21That it might have been more humanish or what not.
- 1:15:24I might go to Mother's Museum and ask them about the
- 1:15:27departies. Did you I don't know if you guys
- 1:15:31ever watched this I used to watch the animal kingdom and all
- 1:15:34kinds of neat stuff on TV about this.
- 1:15:36Well a while back they ended up finding these long-gated human
- 1:15:43skulls where the back of the skull was really really
- 1:15:46stretched out. I mean just like a deformity
- 1:15:49almost and for a while there people are claiming that humans
- 1:15:53and Aliens may have actually had some kind of transition later on
- 1:15:57though in modern times. They found some tribes in Africa
- 1:16:01where they would seal these bandages around their head
- 1:16:04really really tight when these people were children and then it
- 1:16:09ended up making their skull grow out that way.
- 1:16:11So wasn't it evolutionary it was because of the bandage that they
- 1:16:16were wearing actually. Yeah.
- 1:16:19They also finding that in South America too in the South
- 1:16:22American Indian Aztec nations were doing the same damn thing
- 1:16:27they would have and you can actually see it in their
- 1:16:30artwork. They had these big long gated
- 1:16:32heads. There were perfectly human.
- 1:16:34It's just like you said they were tying up the heads to
- 1:16:37elongate them into a conehead one not for all of them.
- 1:16:41It turns some of them were actually genetically from that
- 1:16:44from birth. Here's the thing.
- 1:16:47X is actually the atheists who don't want this genetically
- 1:16:50tested because it will debunk the whole Theory. there so
- 1:16:56something as here's the thing not only do the do the atheists
- 1:17:01not one these genetically tested.
- 1:17:03It's also the questions you don't want this genetically
- 1:17:06tested because it still stands prove that there, you know,
- 1:17:10there's this Eternal external alien mating with human or that
- 1:17:16they're there. their own independent species of human or
- 1:17:21radically different so they haven't been genetically tested.
- 1:17:28They're Summit. Oh, sorry.
- 1:17:30I thought you were done. Yeah, yeah finish.
- 1:17:32Yeah, it appears some of them or like that from birth and that
- 1:17:37just, you know tied with a stick and rope.
- 1:17:42Got a weird question. I would want that test.
- 1:17:44I would be protesting it. I'm not protesting but Pro 4
- 1:17:49testing it I would definitely want it.
- 1:17:51I got a weird question for you in this actually goes up the
- 1:17:55Christians out there that are listening to but anybody that's
- 1:17:57theistic that believes in the concept of God angels and
- 1:18:01possession. Here it is.
- 1:18:03Do you believe that it's possible for a demon or some
- 1:18:06kind of spirit to take over the body of someone who's actually
- 1:18:10pregnant? And will that affect the baby?
- 1:18:16I heard her instances of people giving up their child to the
- 1:18:19baby because they're not born and so they're able to sell that
- 1:18:23Soul because it is not truly an individual yet.
- 1:18:26So the mother still has a claim over the body.
- 1:18:30But let's say that it's a fully formed.
- 1:18:33Let's say that a woman is six to eight months pregnant and
- 1:18:37becomes possessed by some kind of spirit or demon.
- 1:18:40This is for Christians as well as Satanist and anyone out
- 1:18:44there. That's theistic.
- 1:18:45Would it have an effect in the baby with the baby come out with
- 1:18:49some kind of demonic remnants or Angelic?
- 1:18:52Well, well, it's not here's the thing it this goes back to my
- 1:18:57definition of what is life. So as as soon as a spirit that
- 1:19:03isn't demonic and habits the body of that fetus it can only
- 1:19:08guys it can no longer be okay. Bye by demonic Spirit, but prior
- 1:19:13to that state I wouldn't consider it's you know, quote
- 1:19:16unquote alive because it's it's devoid of spirits in this allows
- 1:19:20it and within this time period is which allows some other than
- 1:19:25to sell that body. So the more experience but it
- 1:19:28won't show up and you know, And quantical genetic terms because
- 1:19:33it's just simply a spirit a demonic Spirit inhabiting the
- 1:19:37body. So it's not you won't really see
- 1:19:39it appear physically, but it can but it you know, it's not gonna
- 1:19:45come out with horns like like the Jersey Devil.
- 1:19:50Well, the reason why I put forth this question is obviously we
- 1:19:53were talking about nephlom earlier about angels fornicate
- 1:19:57with humans. And then those babies coming out
- 1:20:00unusual is Giants or powerful and all this kind of stuff.
- 1:20:04So I was wondering to myself what if the baby isn't
- 1:20:08physically altered but could it carry on the remnants of a
- 1:20:12demonic possession or Angelic possession?
- 1:20:18If you're saying if the female made it with a demonic Spirit,
- 1:20:22then I think you will see those changes.
- 1:20:26But if it's just you know a regular man impregnates a human
- 1:20:30female in the human female then then sells that body.
- 1:20:33You're not gonna see those genetic changes one of the
- 1:20:36reasons right Lucifer. I mean correct me from wrong,
- 1:20:39but one of the reasons why satanists at least from the
- 1:20:43thulean theistic as well as Christians believe that abortion
- 1:20:48is wrong is because you believe there's actually a life in
- 1:20:52there. So there's two lives going on at
- 1:20:54the same time and I also agree with that but if someone is
- 1:20:58demonically or angelically possessed, does it take over
- 1:21:03both Spirits or just the in the body of the woman Okay, so This
- 1:21:10is actually been a topic of conversation and it's a point of
- 1:21:14study when you're studying exorcism.
- 1:21:16Usually when a pregnant woman gets possessed.
- 1:21:22And the demon he has demon I say demon but make sure that let's
- 1:21:28understand the possessing Spirit would be a better term I use
- 1:21:33demon because it's usually what people efforts this spirit.
- 1:21:37The possessing spirit is indeed targeting the child's somehow
- 1:21:43someway. This is actually a point of
- 1:21:46subject and why I had to I left really quickly.
- 1:21:49I wanted to go grab this. There is a movie called The
- 1:21:53Unborn and right. Let's see here.
- 1:21:58Okay, The Unborn sorry. I thought I had my camera set up
- 1:22:01where I was right way around you can go find this movie. and the
- 1:22:07whole concept is is that she ended up having sex?
- 1:22:12Somehow got pregnant the boyfriend died or whatnot and
- 1:22:17now she's getting possessed by a demon or something that has
- 1:22:22intentions on being born. Into the child so that the
- 1:22:27spirit will infest a child now. There's three stages to a
- 1:22:34possession. From the state the first stage
- 1:22:37is infestation. Okay.
- 1:22:39This is where the spirit invades your home and invades your life.
- 1:22:43And it's sitting there and it's present.
- 1:22:47The second stage is oppression. This is where it is.
- 1:22:50Spirit starts attacking you personally.
- 1:22:53It starts becoming a very attached to you.
- 1:22:57It starts pressuring you. and wears down your personal
- 1:23:01abilities to Okay, I'm getting some sort of feedback.
- 1:23:07We got somebody named Joe tan and the room Joe 10.
- 1:23:10You got to mute your mic whenever you're not talking.
- 1:23:12I'm a bad deal. What's up, though?
- 1:23:15Doing pretty good man. We're just having a good old
- 1:23:17discussion here. Hopefully you can join it.
- 1:23:21Yep. All right.
- 1:23:22So lose her continue on you. Got to meet your mic when people
- 1:23:25are talking now. That's the mic button and the
- 1:23:28screen. All right.
- 1:23:30So the final stage, you know, oppression is where they're
- 1:23:34pushing on you. They're attacking you and
- 1:23:37they're wearing down your defenses where you don't have
- 1:23:40any way to resist their influence.
- 1:23:43The final stage is possession. This is where the spirit
- 1:23:47actually invades the target of who they're trying to possess
- 1:23:52and sees control now in the instance where the target the
- 1:23:58person being possessed is a pregnant woman.
- 1:24:00It can go further where that Spirit goes from her.
- 1:24:05To The Unborn Child and it could either be trying to kill the
- 1:24:10unborn child or to you know, be born itself through, you know,
- 1:24:16demonic infestation or spiritual infestation.
- 1:24:21I just keep on saying demonic infestation demons don't invest
- 1:24:25but That's that's the basic terminology.
- 1:24:31When you study exorcism. You have to study it pretty much
- 1:24:34in the west. You study it through the
- 1:24:37Christian Center you pick up those languages, but that's not
- 1:24:40what I mean. Um, that's the basic concept of
- 1:24:45it right there now. Could this be possible there are
- 1:24:51stories of it? There's definitely stories of
- 1:24:53it. When we look into Vatican
- 1:24:55records and plenty of stories of exorcisms where the woman was
- 1:25:00pregnant. There's different types of
- 1:25:03exorcisms in this though or possessions.
- 1:25:06I should say. Sometimes a woman has a guilt
- 1:25:10about getting pregnant or having sex with a specific person.
- 1:25:13Sometimes she's a great victim and she you know Has some sort
- 1:25:19of hang up there most of these. possessions are usually
- 1:25:24psychological and coming from the person themselves.
- 1:25:29It's a very minute very finite situation where it's an actual
- 1:25:36spirit. This is where you need
- 1:25:38therapists and psychologists stepping in to study the whole
- 1:25:41situation. You can't just jump into it.
- 1:25:44All right. So luciferia as well as Mr.
- 1:25:47Darth. I got a question for you.
- 1:25:48It's kind of on the same topic it's demonic.
- 1:25:52But I want you guys opinion on it.
- 1:25:53I actually made a video about this but ended up removing it
- 1:25:57from YouTube and just letting us sit on my radio because I
- 1:26:00thought it was too controversial for YouTube.
- 1:26:02You know how sense of those little snowflakes get so Canada
- 1:26:06ended up passing a law stating that they want to open up
- 1:26:10suicide clinics and they have the right to be able to get rid
- 1:26:13of the mentally ill and old people have the right to be able
- 1:26:16to end their lives and they're trying to pass another law that
- 1:26:20states that minors are able to actually do this as well.
- 1:26:25If they want to based upon the idea in the logic that if they
- 1:26:29want to become transgender or live their own life or
- 1:26:32emancipate themself, then they have full autonomy to destroy
- 1:26:36their lives if they want to with assistance.
- 1:26:38It's called assisted dying. It's a nice way of putting
- 1:26:42suicide. What's your thoughts?
- 1:26:45So well to me just kind of demonstrates the failure of
- 1:26:48neoliberalism. I mean, we're here we sit here
- 1:26:51and criticize China for having those tents to prevent suicide
- 1:26:55and yet here we're here. We'll hear liberal westes, you
- 1:26:58know will provide the the death machine for you.
- 1:27:04Well, when we look into Austria and Amsterdam what not.
- 1:27:08They have the they have the noobus pods.
- 1:27:11And I don't know if you looked into them.
- 1:27:13They're like this coffin shaped pod that you can rent and that
- 1:27:18you can have them set up wherever you want and you lay
- 1:27:22down and it has all the points the toxic gases and you go night
- 1:27:28night to your perfect sunset or whatever.
- 1:27:30You want to see your last sight and it kills you.
- 1:27:35Um, but the suicide God me personally.
- 1:27:40Um, I believe suicide is a viable is perfectly within a
- 1:27:44person's Choice under two circumstances.
- 1:27:47Okay. The first circumstance is you're
- 1:27:50already dying. You're suffering.
- 1:27:52You're not going to get better. There's no hope of having a
- 1:27:57full. Pleasurable life you're it's
- 1:28:00you're dying slowly and it's going to be your time soon.
- 1:28:04Anyways, at that point it becomes a very viable choice to
- 1:28:09say, okay. I'm not gonna avoid this this is
- 1:28:12this is happening to me and I'm already hurting I'm getting
- 1:28:17worse and worse and worse being a burden on my family, which I
- 1:28:21don't want to be at that point, you know set your fairs in order
- 1:28:26talk with your family members make sure everybody's on board
- 1:28:29and understands why you want to do this.
- 1:28:33And you come to peace with yourself and you go you.
- 1:28:39You do what you need to do on your own terms.
- 1:28:42The other situation would be if you're a military personnel
- 1:28:46officer, you're trapped behind that Enemy Lines.
- 1:28:49You have Intel that could. you know lead to a lot of people
- 1:28:53your buddies getting hurt or whatnot and your sacrifice will
- 1:29:00save a lot of lives Mister very important how to Mutual Mike
- 1:29:04when other people are talking so we don't get feedback or hear
- 1:29:07you scrape in your desk over here with the garden tools or
- 1:29:11whatever that was. It's all good David.
- 1:29:15Would you like to say something? Would you like to tell us a
- 1:29:18little bit about yourself as well as Mr. Joeton and then
- 1:29:21we'll get back into the discussion.
- 1:29:24Sure. Sure.
- 1:29:25Well, I mean I'm David and it's I've never done this before.
- 1:29:32So this is pretty cool. But I I don't know can't.
- 1:29:41Very well. I've I've been to his little to
- 1:29:45his camp and everything and I do I get I guess it's I do follow
- 1:29:48him. But you know and I I am also a
- 1:29:53Christian I am a firm believer. However, I do have some
- 1:29:59questions for Mr. Lucifer. Just whenever I guess it would
- 1:30:06be appropriate. Well, we we can do that David
- 1:30:10David. You sound a little nervous.
- 1:30:11Are you nervous? Oh, no.
- 1:30:13No, I'm I'm in on YouTube several times.
- 1:30:18I do. I have a Tuesday night bible
- 1:30:21study that I do every every Tuesday.
- 1:30:23So I'm very comfortable on the camera.
- 1:30:25All right, wonderful. Wonderful.
- 1:30:27If anybody comes in here and you feel anxious and nervous and you
- 1:30:31start feeling yourself Shake because you're surrounded by
- 1:30:33such sexiness. Just take deep breaths.
- 1:30:36Say yes Brett's awesome, but I can do this.
- 1:30:40Like that, that's simple that's simple.
- 1:30:42All right. So David you said you do Bible
- 1:30:44studies. What is your thoughts about the
- 1:30:46suicide clinics? And another question for you and
- 1:30:50Lucifer since you know, right we have another guest here yotin.
- 1:30:55Can you please tell us a little bit about yourself?
- 1:30:57Yeah. Go ahead.
- 1:30:58They're Yoki Hey. Yeah.
- 1:31:03No, I mean I just honestly, will I'm familiar we can't because I
- 1:31:09saw his his great debates on YouTube against a bunch of
- 1:31:13evolution evolutionists and you know, so I came up with him and
- 1:31:18I guess they brought me here and you guys have been talking about
- 1:31:21a lot of cool stuff, you know, but I feel like there's a few
- 1:31:26things that come put in here and there because I feel like Well,
- 1:31:33anyway, I mean, I don't really want to talk so much about
- 1:31:35myself, you know, I'm a person is my name, you know, I I
- 1:31:37couldn't get my camera working, but maybe next time maybe not.
- 1:31:42But yeah, no, I just wanted to add to to a bunch of things
- 1:31:46y'all was y'all was saying because y'all was talking.
- 1:31:49I mean you yeah you guys go. Very broad with it you guys talk
- 1:31:53about everything and I think that's cool.
- 1:31:56Um, but I felt like a lot with you guys were talking about
- 1:31:59recently like with the suicide, you know that can also relate to
- 1:32:04what the with those calls do when they when you lead a person
- 1:32:09into suicide. You know, that's I feel like
- 1:32:13that's horrible, you know, like when you groom a person or do
- 1:32:16some against their own sense of free will you know you grooming
- 1:32:20somebody to completely ignore their Free Will and then not
- 1:32:24only just to anything but suicide out of all things, you
- 1:32:28know, like those like those Cults and so I mean there's a
- 1:32:32lot of there's a lot of examples of that of leading people into
- 1:32:35the wrong direction and I feel like that's that's part.
- 1:32:38That's that's a good part on that people should acknowledge
- 1:32:41when talking about what y'all was talking about suicides and
- 1:32:45all that. Because a lot of people are LED
- 1:32:47into it. And grouped into the groomed
- 1:32:50into even depression and all sorts of things that lead to
- 1:32:53down that road. You know, it's not suicide
- 1:32:56doesn't just come out of nowhere, you know.
- 1:32:57Hey, it's something that develops over time to various
- 1:33:02reasons, you know, people many people and manipulating other
- 1:33:05people. And actually that's a strong
- 1:33:09point to consider when talking about these things.
- 1:33:13Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
- 1:33:15I I hear you there and there's definitely been plenty of cult
- 1:33:19leaders over the years. Some people call me a call cult
- 1:33:22leader because I run satanic feelings society and the
- 1:33:25official culture Cthulhu, but my personal opinion is that I
- 1:33:32suicide for religious reasons is should not be a thing.
- 1:33:37That's my personal opinion. Well, I I do think like
- 1:33:40Christianity some Christians do half like a bit of a deaf
- 1:33:44cultish feel to them because they they want Jesus to come
- 1:33:47back and well, how do you get that by accelerating the
- 1:33:52apocalypse, which is death. That's not a good thing.
- 1:33:56Like you shouldn't you shouldn't want like the immediate at least
- 1:34:02the immediate arrival Jesus because then you're saying I
- 1:34:05want all Humanity to die as soon as possible.
- 1:34:08What I think um, I think some Christians and I have heard
- 1:34:12somewhere. They do some like there's a bit
- 1:34:15of psychotic that I just can't wait to the world blows up.
- 1:34:18I can't wait to sit on fire. I've heard those types, but I
- 1:34:22think some people want the end to come because of all the
- 1:34:25tragedies and loss. I mean imagine you've lost your
- 1:34:28entire family and you see the world as a very dark nihilistic
- 1:34:32place. We just don't feel like there's
- 1:34:34any more for you some people might think well damn if I'm
- 1:34:38dead I get to be with all the beautiful people that I've lost
- 1:34:41and care about so you can see why someone might have the
- 1:34:44desire for that right? I say that's more selfish than I
- 1:34:48yeah, but that would be for the children either though at all.
- 1:34:52Well, why why would it be selfish for someone to want to
- 1:34:56be with those that they love? What if you lost a child are you
- 1:35:00lost a parent or something like that?
- 1:35:01Why is it selfish for you to want to be able to see them
- 1:35:06again? For selfish part comes up when
- 1:35:10you say you want the whole world to end in order for me to get
- 1:35:13this indeed. Yeah, I'm gonna sit here and be
- 1:35:20like Personally, I'm not ready for the party to end.
- 1:35:23I have I don't want anybody to die if they don't need to and
- 1:35:27because when they say time comes, you know, it's that's
- 1:35:31something that none of us can ever escape.
- 1:35:33It's an inevitability for everyone because but basically
- 1:35:37they apocalypse is It's not it's not that good ending.
- 1:35:40It's got stiffening and forcing God's hand because we messed up
- 1:35:44so much that now God has to step in and fix.
- 1:35:48I think you got the wrong idea about the apocalypse.
- 1:35:50It's not that it's the end of the world.
- 1:35:52It is a final battle. Apocalypse is combat.
- 1:35:57It's a fight. You know, it's not the it's not
- 1:36:01definitively the end. That's Armageddon.
- 1:36:04Yeah, I think around well Army getting can also be seen as the
- 1:36:08final fight, but You know, it's it's a resist.
- 1:36:12It's something's trying to finish something and something's
- 1:36:15pushing back against it. That's what technically
- 1:36:18apocalypse is. It's the end of one thing in the
- 1:36:21beginning of another. Yeah the thing it's like we
- 1:36:24don't have to go through apocalypse.
- 1:36:25The only reason we have to go through apocalypse is because
- 1:36:28God has to step in because we mess up so much.
- 1:36:32Or Satan has to step in. In Satanism and especially in
- 1:36:38STS. We have cthulhanism.
- 1:36:41This is where the official culture comes in.
- 1:36:44We believe that Satan's final form when that time because that
- 1:36:49he's going to take the shape of you raise relay out of the water
- 1:36:52and Destroy everybody on Earth to set them free.
- 1:36:57Yeah, because no but that's what we think anyways, so let's let's
- 1:37:03go ahead I see David. He's been sitting there going
- 1:37:06like, oh, it's just that I can see the gears turning in his
- 1:37:12head David. What do you have to say about
- 1:37:13all this? Well, I mean is it?
- 1:37:18is is really interesting it is I mean, you know, no doubt in my
- 1:37:22mind that there is definitely A God because I'm hello.
- 1:37:28We're here, you know, and and that's interesting.
- 1:37:32I mean I've heard I guess I've heard it both ways.
- 1:37:35Like I mean, even I guess atheist would would agree.
- 1:37:41Okay fine if there is a Heaven There is a hell, you know, so
- 1:37:48and it's kind of big of them to even admit that but you know.
- 1:37:55On suicide. I I remember when I was the
- 1:38:00gosh. Younger preteen or six seven
- 1:38:08eight nine. There was a guy that he killed
- 1:38:13himself and you know, it's like, you know, you know, I've always
- 1:38:20heard stories and someone that that deals with anxiety himself,
- 1:38:28you know, I mean, you know have I had those thoughts well sure.
- 1:38:34I mean, you know, but it's like You can and well for those of
- 1:38:41you all that don't know I mean I moved to Kansas for about a
- 1:38:44year. So which kind of was really kind
- 1:38:49of more of a therapy. I guess he could say.
- 1:38:55But that's another long story that we can talk about.
- 1:38:58But I mean it's neither here or there but You know, I can easily
- 1:39:04myself I can see someone. saying you know yeah, there there is a
- 1:39:13language right you can see there's a definitely a way like,
- 1:39:22you know, okay. I'm tired of it.
- 1:39:24You know, I just want to you know end it all so, you know
- 1:39:30suicide is is definitely something that Real I know some.
- 1:39:36someone that used to deal with suicidal thoughts and he's I
- 1:39:44don't really know where he's at now.
- 1:39:45I mean, I haven't heard anything.
- 1:39:46So I guess he's still alive and well, but he you know, it's it's
- 1:39:51a thing and it's something that needs to be taken seriously
- 1:39:56because I mean, you know, it's kind of like you only with one
- 1:40:00right? You know that type of thing.
- 1:40:04I guess that really Does that make sense y'all have any
- 1:40:07questions? I mean no.
- 1:40:09I'm here makes perfect sense to me.
- 1:40:11Um, I don't know why I'm probably one of the few people
- 1:40:16On that I know of that are seen death.
- 1:40:18So intimately as I have I've seen people burned alive stoned
- 1:40:23shot. I've seen death in quite a few
- 1:40:27different forms. Unfortunately, I've even seen
- 1:40:30suicide firsthand one of my ex-girlfriends actually
- 1:40:34committed suicide on sitting on the couch with me.
- 1:40:36I didn't even know what was going on until I, you know, she
- 1:40:40was cuddled up. She was that she poisoned
- 1:40:45herself and I didn't even realize it for like an hour or
- 1:40:49two. I'm cuddled up to a corpse.
- 1:40:52And that fucked with my mind a bit.
- 1:40:54I was really upset about that. but It's rough.
- 1:40:59Yeah, yeah. And yeah, I've seen death on so
- 1:41:06many different levels, you know, once you see it so much.
- 1:41:12It's definitely something that changes you.
- 1:41:14It's definitely something that you don't you don't look at the
- 1:41:20same way again. So the concept of death and
- 1:41:24having been dead myself as well. you know my whole my whole
- 1:41:30outlook on suicide is probably vastly different on.
- 1:41:34Than most other people's I can understand certain perspectives
- 1:41:38and I can not get behind other perspectives.
- 1:41:41On it. So yeah. yes is definitely
- 1:41:47something that and actually forgot about I have a friend of
- 1:41:52mine that um dealing with with that.
- 1:41:59I don't know if he's if you still has those Suicidal
- 1:42:05Thoughts, but I know he fixed six months ago.
- 1:42:08Well, maybe not even six months ago.
- 1:42:11He was he was dealing with that. So it's you know something that
- 1:42:15that I do, you know take seriously because it's something
- 1:42:21that you know, you don't you only have one wife what you do
- 1:42:24with it is really up to you, you know, I mean you can you can cut
- 1:42:32it short or you can live your life to the fullest have a
- 1:42:36friend of mine that says you know you need to um Just live
- 1:42:42life. I can't remember if it was you
- 1:42:44were the moderator but You got to live life in I guess in the
- 1:42:51now right? Does that make sense?
- 1:43:00Oh, you're you're muted I think. Sorry about that.
- 1:43:04Yes, it makes perfect sense. I sometimes forget that I move
- 1:43:08myself and thank you that we have verses that talk about
- 1:43:13living life in the here. Now that there's no Heaven of
- 1:43:17Glory bright or hell we're Sinners Rose and I'm said it
- 1:43:21before most satanists. They never been dead.
- 1:43:24They've never seen the afterlife so they pay no attention to it.
- 1:43:27And it's really easy for a lot of satanists to go into an
- 1:43:30atheistic mindset because of that, but the truth of the
- 1:43:34matter is I'm not one of them. I've been dead.
- 1:43:36I've actually seen the Apple. I know that it exists.
- 1:43:40Um, death is not yeah, I don't find death I play violent video
- 1:43:46games where you're killing monsters or whatnot recently.
- 1:43:50I've been playing Resident Evil. I also like the Dead Space
- 1:43:52series and I think the reason why I play those violent games
- 1:43:57is because I have such a different outlook on death. and
- 1:44:01it you know I have This Outlook that states, you know death is
- 1:44:07not what people understand. And trust me when you smell
- 1:44:13somebody cooking because somebody poured gasoline all
- 1:44:17over them and let them up. It's gonna change your
- 1:44:19perspective. So when you yeah, when you hear
- 1:44:23the bones cracking in a woman five feet away from you as her
- 1:44:27own Family Stones her to death. It's gonna change your
- 1:44:30perspective. Yeah, that's Sharia law for you.
- 1:44:38I've seen it first and I used to live in the UAE.
- 1:44:42Um Yeah, it's it's absolutely crazy.
- 1:44:47I'm gonna answer a couple questions that I'm seeing coming
- 1:44:50up in the comments iron Chariot here.
- 1:44:54Yes, I do believe in an actual Satan from the Bible.
- 1:44:59It's just he's the good guy and God's asshole. so yeah, go
- 1:45:10ahead. Well, I would say like because
- 1:45:12like for example Jacob, well, here's the implications of
- 1:45:17suicide and in relation to you know Christian theology because
- 1:45:21when when Jacob loses the you know when God loses the bed was
- 1:45:26Satan on Jacob whether he curses what Jacob doesn't curse, you
- 1:45:31know God you're talking about Job.
- 1:45:34Yes. Yeah Joe, so he doesn't curse
- 1:45:38God directly, but he curses his birth.
- 1:45:41But to curse your birth is to also curse the Creator who gave
- 1:45:46you that life. And so toss away your life isn't
- 1:45:49a way kind of indirectly also. Maybe spitting up on you know,
- 1:45:54the question God or The God gave you the life to begin with.
- 1:45:59I believe job did actually Curse God and I'm gonna point out.
- 1:46:05Um To a lot of people that Satan won in that instance in his bet
- 1:46:11with God when you actually read the story and I encourage people
- 1:46:14to go ahead and read the story pay attention to what is being
- 1:46:19said between God and Satan Satan never tells God that job cannot
- 1:46:24repent just simply that even for but a moment he will curse God's
- 1:46:30name. He will curse God and job
- 1:46:32definitely does that you can see that but I would definitely say,
- 1:46:36you know, give me a moment. I'll go take a look and you
- 1:46:40know, we'll find that we'll find that line together and we'll
- 1:46:43take a look at it really want me to And well and it if I may I do
- 1:46:54have a question that I mean, I I've been studying apologetics
- 1:46:59for a long time and well. trying to think of the of a good way to
- 1:47:08ask this question like okay for it in your mind, Mr. Lucifer.
- 1:47:17For someone like me and can or any Christians.
- 1:47:22What does that mean for us? Whenever we whatever we die.
- 1:47:26Like what what happens to us? If that makes sense.
- 1:47:32Repeat the question. Sorry.
- 1:47:33I was actually looking up what I was saying that I would look up.
- 1:47:37No, you get what happens to Christians when they die
- 1:47:41according according to what you believe?
- 1:47:45Well, we have our own different beliefs.
- 1:47:49Um One of the first places people go when they die.
- 1:47:52And this is universal. You'll hear this in almost every
- 1:47:56single culture is they go to What's called the void or in
- 1:48:00Latin terms. It's the walls of arabis Erebus
- 1:48:03simply means Darkness if you look in if you want some movies,
- 1:48:06have you ever seen the Insidious movies?
- 1:48:12I believe so a long time ago. Yeah, okay.
- 1:48:16It goes smoothies for a family gets haunted by ghost the one
- 1:48:20little boy he falls into this weird coma and turns out a
- 1:48:24demon's trying to invade his body.
- 1:48:25So they they actually this is a series of movies were the
- 1:48:29spiritualist will take the family members into what she
- 1:48:34calls the further. This is sometimes referred to as
- 1:48:37the Umbra the walls of Erebus the void, whatever it is the
- 1:48:44first stopping point you if we look in Dante's Inferno it's
- 1:48:47referred to as the vegetable it is the first stop-long things
- 1:48:52and people arrive here and that's when they reach out to
- 1:48:55their own personalities where it with them away.
- 1:49:01To their specific afterlife some people get stuck here.
- 1:49:05And this is where we get ghosts because this place is just just
- 1:49:10a little bit off of our plane of living.
- 1:49:13And this like I said, this is a universal stopping point.
- 1:49:16This is the first place your spirit goes after you die.
- 1:49:19And after that it can go any number of different directions.
- 1:49:23Well, that's interesting because I've noticed that a lot of
- 1:49:28people have like horror like really bad descriptions of what
- 1:49:31hell is but but also when the music industry for some reason I
- 1:49:36want and I want your take on this what you think about it
- 1:49:38because I'm not really I'm not really sure about for some
- 1:49:41reason people seem to so some people also think that hell is
- 1:49:46like a big party or something like that.
- 1:49:48What is that about like a big party where everybody can do
- 1:49:53whatever they want and all that so.
- 1:49:56I heard that before it's where all the Rockstar thing out,
- 1:49:59right? Yeah. yeah, um, well, I think
- 1:50:03what most of them are referencing is the city of dis
- 1:50:06now when we look at Dante's Inferno again, this is where we
- 1:50:09come across the city of this initially Dante and Virgil, um
- 1:50:14comes across this and they see that this Burning they see this
- 1:50:21hellish City from the outside it never actually go in but they
- 1:50:25approach the Medusa gate now the city of this is where People
- 1:50:30would actually go to live in hell.
- 1:50:33This would be like their Paradise their own home would
- 1:50:35appear there. They're perfect home.
- 1:50:39But where this party that sure talked about a lot of people,
- 1:50:43you know would live there and yeah, they could visit friends
- 1:50:46family and loved ones the party I would say is further up in the
- 1:50:51cupido the second circle of hell see this is like on the fifth
- 1:50:54Circle or something like that. The second Circle that's where
- 1:51:00the actual party is because that's where all the people of
- 1:51:03lust go you have, you know, even when you see read some of the
- 1:51:09descriptions it's a constant storm that's going around.
- 1:51:13So people are thrashed back and forth but around the perimeter
- 1:51:17of the pit is descriptions of lavish homes of people.
- 1:51:23And it's from these homes. We see like the home of Emperor
- 1:51:27Nero Caligula and other famous, you know big hediness.
- 1:51:33And so this is where I would say the party is so there's
- 1:51:36different sections of hell where different things are going on.
- 1:51:39Just like we see in Dante's Inferno do the different
- 1:51:42sections of hell and Dante's Inferno has different
- 1:51:45punishments. Does that make sense?
- 1:51:52Yes. Yeah, but was was their point
- 1:51:54estimate though, the people who's having that blast of a
- 1:51:57party. Well, I could actually read you
- 1:52:02the description of the cupido if you want.
- 1:52:06Sure. It's really maybe.
- 1:52:10Yeah, it's only a pager too long.
- 1:52:13You'll find it interesting. looking for love another one
- 1:52:25places All right. whatever right place welcome back Mr. Ford.
- 1:52:40Sorry don't know what happened. All right.
- 1:52:44Here we go. Circle lust aka the cupido.
- 1:52:51The second level of hell is lost in Latin.
- 1:52:54This is this realm is called cupido.
- 1:52:58Which literally means lost the circle only is only sparsely
- 1:53:02detailed in Dante. Fortunately that has been
- 1:53:05elaborated on by other creators through film and video game as
- 1:53:10well as writings. It is from this that much of the
- 1:53:14satanic description is elaborated.
- 1:53:18Dante's description Dante's description of the circle is
- 1:53:22fairly light in detail. It is described as a place where
- 1:53:26nothing gleans and is entered through a white gate beyond the
- 1:53:31gate is Minos who judges souls and cast them to their
- 1:53:35appropriate circle of Torment. Beyond him is a raging storm
- 1:53:40that forces Sinners of carnal passions to never be at rest and
- 1:53:45In Perpetual Motion. The satanic description at the
- 1:53:52edge of the second Circle rests the place palace of King Minos
- 1:53:57of Greek lore. And through this wide gate is
- 1:54:01the entrance to the cupido here. My nose holds Court aided by the
- 1:54:06Egyptian. God both Soles entering hell
- 1:54:11must stand before Minos in judgment.
- 1:54:13It is not a place of punishment but understanding.
- 1:54:19Should a soul be burdened by the condemnation?
- 1:54:23Thoth will know of it and report it to my mouse who will judge
- 1:54:28the nature of the person he will then send that soul to a
- 1:54:32particular Circle to sort out any issues they may have
- 1:54:38However, should Soul be free and unburdened by any condemnation.
- 1:54:43Minos grants them free access to the further depths of Hell
- 1:54:47unrestricted. If they be be Mages or
- 1:54:53practitioners of the occult or some other Dark Art.
- 1:54:58He will test their knowledge. And Mastery of things and
- 1:55:02skills. Should they prove to be truly
- 1:55:06masterful? He will confer upon them the
- 1:55:09nomination of rank. And send them before Satan
- 1:55:14himself to be deemed worthy of the rank.
- 1:55:17An admission into hell's host. Should however the soul be found
- 1:55:22to be truly Wicked and corrupted by evil.
- 1:55:27And should it be a desire? Further darkness and Corruption
- 1:55:31the soul will be imprisoned before minus as he casts his
- 1:55:36sentence of punishment upon the accursed thing.
- 1:55:41And cast it bound to one of Hell's prisons.
- 1:55:46There it will either be held until the end of time or until
- 1:55:50it is no long until it no longer harbors.
- 1:55:56As one descends into the circle. They are buffeted by a great
- 1:56:01storm. a curse placed upon the realm Long Ago by the Christian
- 1:56:06God in his attempt to subjugate hell.
- 1:56:11What was once a ruinous slopes now stands rebuilt and
- 1:56:17reinforced by several palaces and Villas a famous and Infamous
- 1:56:22repute? They docked The Cliff face
- 1:56:26overlooking the pits yawning Chasm.
- 1:56:30These palaces and Villas offer Solace and safety from the storm
- 1:56:34to those Souls that accept the truth of the black Flame.
- 1:56:40And let go of their personal condemnations.
- 1:56:44They occurs need only find their way to the sheltered steps of
- 1:56:48these harbors of sanctuary to be lifted from their torments by
- 1:56:52their brethren. within the walls is incalculable pleasures of
- 1:56:59carnality and less. free of guilt or sin one particular
- 1:57:05Palace stands distinct from the others overlapping the realm of
- 1:57:10the pit. From this is the fabled pleasure
- 1:57:14Palace of neuro rather than most other palaces souls are
- 1:57:20encouraged to Brave the storms and find their way here.
- 1:57:25Here neuro greets to his guests with his song from its fabled
- 1:57:30liar. He welcomes them openly and with
- 1:57:33a flourish all the vices of the flesh are offered in this place
- 1:57:38a pure delight. But it is from the overlooking
- 1:57:43docks that narrows Palace is set apart.
- 1:57:47At the center of the chasm floating and turning with storm
- 1:57:51is a massive Citadel known as the carnal Tower.
- 1:57:56I'm just lost my place. There's a cardinal Tower about
- 1:58:02it floats numerous pleasure barges of historical figures
- 1:58:07such as Cleopatra and Caligula. The bar just float upon the
- 1:58:13buffeting air. Of the storm and dock along the
- 1:58:17Palaces overlapping overhanging face.
- 1:58:21Here souls are free to board them as vessels as vessels
- 1:58:26spiral inward along the storm to the central tower.
- 1:58:30The vessels are opulent reproductions of their former
- 1:58:34real-world counterparts. from Caligula's nemi ships to the
- 1:58:39tragic Titanic these vessels offer their parent passengers a
- 1:58:45grand experience of all passions and safe Voyage to the carnal
- 1:58:49Tower. The center of the cubido is the
- 1:58:54great floating carnal Tower. the occursed storms Is turned back
- 1:59:00upon the Christian God with this Marvel of hellish engineering?
- 1:59:05Shaped as a giant phallus supposedly.
- 1:59:08It is the severed cock of Rasputin The Mad Monk.
- 1:59:12That's right. Say what transformed the tower
- 1:59:18turns with the storm held the Loft by the tumultuous winds.
- 1:59:23once intended to be torture those to torture those who gave
- 1:59:28into the sin of lust from its tips spews a radiant radiant
- 1:59:34leam of golden light. That casts back the darkness as
- 1:59:39it falls and sparkling moats around the cupido.
- 1:59:44It is crafted in black and Crimson marble and guilt in
- 1:59:49Forbidden Iris precious metals and crusted with blood diamonds
- 1:59:53and other nefarious jewels. Within its Marvel sits the Four
- 2:00:00Queens of Hell Lilith Agrabah to melat It's just zinnium in the
- 2:00:07mouth. Together they are the patron
- 2:00:11goddesses of sacred prostitution.
- 2:00:14And the grand Queens of hell? Within the carnal Tower they
- 2:00:19hold Court in the Hall of carnal malachters.
- 2:00:24This chamber rests at the base of the Tower with its bottom
- 2:00:28open to the storm and the pit below. at its Center Is a flat
- 2:00:36diet called the stage of forbidden sin. 20 feet around
- 2:00:42and connected by a stepped Bridge Upon it.
- 2:00:47The Queens are entertained by lewd acts of carnality.
- 2:00:52Or hear the testimonies of patrons beseeching Their
- 2:00:55audience above and across from the Dias is the fourth Thrones.
- 2:01:02Built into the walls sit the Queens.
- 2:01:06Above them all on all sides is a great Amphitheater which hosts
- 2:01:12the Queen's guests and visitors of the Court. which includes
- 2:01:16many gods goddesses of love and lust and it is not uncommon to
- 2:01:22find one deity or another throwing a Rowdy party.
- 2:01:28In the balconies above much to the courts annoyance.
- 2:01:34Attending the guests as a host of succubi and incubi who take
- 2:01:39their carnal Pleasures at will from the attendees and do so
- 2:01:43repeatedly and with great vigor. and often without consent to
- 2:01:51which incidentally and as one may surmise does not exist here.
- 2:01:59Guess pretty much consent to anything upon entering the
- 2:02:03cupido. and especially the carnal Tower above in the rest
- 2:02:08of the tower is many great pleasures and Chambers open to
- 2:02:12be explored at one's own will and Mild playful peril.
- 2:02:19The Queen's themselves are known for having unrelenting
- 2:02:22appetites. And despite the souls pleasure.
- 2:02:26They are known for leaning Souls diminished for time.
- 2:02:30Thus is the design of lust the second Circle.
- 2:02:33So those are those Queens rape you repeatedly in hell not just
- 2:02:39them succubi. Well, I think that kind of
- 2:02:44touches like when there is no law that can be no sin.
- 2:02:48So for example murder is a is a legal term so you can't say
- 2:02:53there's murder outside the law. Because I can't say there's
- 2:02:58Kelly. So there would be no, you know
- 2:03:02rape in hell because there is no long.
- 2:03:06It would be a legal term very much.
- 2:03:08You're pretty much a moment you walk in there.
- 2:03:10You're giving your consent to pretty much anything happening.
- 2:03:13Yeah, but say you could also take this to the extreme and
- 2:03:17amplify to the point. They don't like it because they
- 2:03:21they want to have this pleasurable.
- 2:03:24Orgy of sex but Eagle you can go all Hellraiser on them and
- 2:03:29Implement an orgy of war and they're not gonna like that.
- 2:03:35But they continue to say that they won't I mean you look at
- 2:03:39the Legends of these goddesses and some of them are not very
- 2:03:42pleasant. Some of them can be very violent
- 2:03:44as well. We're not say it would be
- 2:03:46outside their purview to go all Pinhead or sent a bite onion
- 2:03:50find Pleasure and Pain. Probably something you but I
- 2:03:55think will be great because like if you simply just go, you know
- 2:03:58Ohio razor and then it's so different than the other
- 2:04:03circles. Well, if we look at the center
- 2:04:05bytes in Clive Barker's Hellraiser, they take pleasure
- 2:04:09Beyond pleasure. They they literally mix Pleasure
- 2:04:12and Pain and there is no difference to them Agony and
- 2:04:15ecstasy. Yeah.
- 2:04:18So, I mean what if that's your personal pleasure, that's your
- 2:04:22personal desire and car now a carnal desire then who would
- 2:04:26stop it in hell if you're having fun of it unlike it but Amy King
- 2:04:32and I'm gonna point out Johnny Johnny read to draconus.
- 2:04:37I know this man personally wouldn't say no to a female
- 2:04:42Pinhead. The video real kinky.
- 2:04:46Okay, you don't even know the half of it.
- 2:04:50I've seen photos. And that's all I'm gonna say
- 2:04:56that I need to say I'm embarrassing you Johnny, and I
- 2:05:00know I'm embarrassing you but that's all I'm gonna say.
- 2:05:02How do you think of pinheads dick looks like To say that even
- 2:05:09has one goodness, right? Think about it when you actually
- 2:05:17read the original Hellraiser the Hellbound Heart by Clyde Barker
- 2:05:22and you look at the center bytes.
- 2:05:25They're actually described as being androgynous.
- 2:05:27There's only one that is of a definitive gender.
- 2:05:31And that's the female Senate. The rest of them you can't tell
- 2:05:36whether they were male or female but more as a matter of fact
- 2:05:39Pinhead with in the original story is described as having a
- 2:05:43breathy child like little girls voice.
- 2:05:51Very far from that in the movies.
- 2:05:55In the original but okay. So let's take a look at the new
- 2:05:58movie. Let's take a look at the Hulu
- 2:06:01movie. I've seen it's a good movie.
- 2:06:03I enjoyed it and I think they chose.
- 2:06:06I think that they chose really well for the new Pinhead now,
- 2:06:10we're supposed to be believing that this is a female Pinhead
- 2:06:14and personally, I think it's a the Christy cotton character or
- 2:06:17cursed cotton character from the original.
- 2:06:20But the actual actor that they got playing it is a
- 2:06:24transgendered actor both changed over male to female transgender
- 2:06:30and I've seen them in other roles as well and wonderful
- 2:06:35after I think they're a great actor and I think that they made
- 2:06:38a perfect. Yeah, that's probably good good
- 2:06:45decision there. You know connect your life. so I
- 2:06:53just insane it's penny for the audience so that the audience
- 2:06:55gets that mental image. You're thinking about it now
- 2:06:58audience. Are you as it approaches your
- 2:07:01letter? You I I always I know this is
- 2:07:06not one of the more popular Hellraiser movies, but there's
- 2:07:10one that I always remember they actually had a chain flogger in
- 2:07:14it with fish hooks at the end and in the one scene, you
- 2:07:20actually see it get used where it would lash it out and look
- 2:07:24into a person's bag and they just rip it right now.
- 2:07:28Haven't seen any I think the last by Parker film as I was at
- 2:07:32midnight Midnight Meat Train. I haven't seen any.
- 2:07:38The most I need to go on a Hellraiser like the whole
- 2:07:41Hellraiser kick even with the shitty movies.
- 2:07:47Let's show your brain. Yeah that I actually drive me to
- 2:07:51Insanity. It's it's not even like awful
- 2:07:54good. It's just it's just awful.
- 2:07:58So what are you what are you thinking David?
- 2:08:00I'm sitting here watching and some of these subscriptions that
- 2:08:03we're talking about. You're going like oh I find it.
- 2:08:09I find all this very interesting.
- 2:08:11You know, what's the last horror movie you watched?
- 2:08:16The what the last hot the last one.
- 2:08:19Yeah. Oh wow.
- 2:08:23How long ago was it? No, no, it was last year saw.
- 2:08:30Which one? The newest one what whatever
- 2:08:33that is. Saw X sorry 10 a minute.
- 2:08:37What? What do you think of it?
- 2:08:39I haven't seen that song. I've seen all the others, but I
- 2:08:42haven't seen that one yet. It didn't answer any of the
- 2:08:45questions. I have so like what on Earth
- 2:08:49where on Earth is Hoffman, you know, is he you know from 7 6
- 2:08:57he's not even involved at this point.
- 2:09:00I don't think right. Oh, there's Darth.
- 2:09:04Welcome back, brother. But we actually get to see him.
- 2:09:11Yeah, what a handsome fella. How come you don't share
- 2:09:15yourself more often you trying to keep people from getting
- 2:09:17jealous. the silver globe Yeah, it's crazy.
- 2:09:21It's it's really it's a 1980s, but it's bizarre bizardo world.
- 2:09:30cinematography Is it along the same lines as a what it what is
- 2:09:38that movie Clockwork Orange? I know it's more.
- 2:09:43It's more sci-fi. So what is that?
- 2:09:51Zoetrope or something like that. It's um Wait, that's the thing.
- 2:10:00They're like, they're like a European directors and like, you
- 2:10:03know during the cold Wars it wasn't a lot of cinematography.
- 2:10:08and then photography coming from like, you know the east East
- 2:10:12wall the Eastern block or was yeah, that's something like
- 2:10:15that. the dial Oh, I have like drag racing.
- 2:10:22Where old time yeah. Thanks.
- 2:10:24Use you that sounded wet. Oh.
- 2:10:30I have a question. All right, go ahead you do.
- 2:10:35Well, I like to hear it. Oh, so okay.
- 2:10:41We talked about earlier. How hell is kind of like a big
- 2:10:47party where the what we're all the rock stars.
- 2:10:49Go right or except for else Cooper He's a Christian now.
- 2:10:52Okay, so he's still going to hell.
- 2:10:56I'm sorry. He's older.
- 2:10:57So yeah, so, okay baseball. Hotel California, what is that
- 2:11:07song about is that song about how?
- 2:11:10That's about great acting by the way.
- 2:11:12It's a beautiful song. Oh good guy is driving.
- 2:11:16Yeah at night. He's had a few too many drinks.
- 2:11:19He falls asleep at the wheel and he wrecks.
- 2:11:22He thinks he's pulling over but he's actually Wrecking.
- 2:11:26And he comes up to this hotel. And it's a beautiful place.
- 2:11:32Everybody's having good time. It's but it's not what he
- 2:11:36expected and he's suddenly realizes he's going to be
- 2:11:38trapped here. And so he starts fighting to get
- 2:11:40back to his body. And that's when he gets told you
- 2:11:45can check in, but you can never leave.
- 2:11:48Right, but it's interesting because you know verse 1 verse 2
- 2:11:54is is all it sounds like this guy is having you just you know.
- 2:11:59right time You know, I mean everything's good. but the last
- 2:12:08verse, you know says that you know.
- 2:12:10Oh, hey, I gotta get out of here, you know.
- 2:12:16This I don't think I need to be here, you know, so he's running
- 2:12:22towards the door and this guy says hey, sorry you're here.
- 2:12:27You're you're trapped, you know check in but you never do
- 2:12:33believe or you can check out there.
- 2:12:36You can never leave. So very Twilight Zone, isn't it?
- 2:12:40Yeah. Yeah it is but it's a beautiful
- 2:12:44song. Oh it is.
- 2:12:46I love it. But oh question for someone that
- 2:12:51might know and my give me a serious legitimate answer.
- 2:12:59Are the Eagles a part of the Church of Satan because I'm
- 2:13:02always here. No, no, no, no, no.
- 2:13:06Sammy Davis Jr. Was actually given an honorary
- 2:13:11priesthood by Anton LaVey and there's pictures of Sammy Davis
- 2:13:16Jr. From The Rat Pack with antonovi
- 2:13:19many musicians have been part of the church Satan over a course
- 2:13:23of years. But we're there entire bands
- 2:13:28that were part of the church thing.
- 2:13:29I wouldn't say no to that, but I don't know of any right.
- 2:13:35Of course, we had Marilyn Manson.
- 2:13:37We had Sammy Davis Jr. We had King Diamond.
- 2:13:43Who else I can't remember those up there?
- 2:13:47Oh, by the way, Mr. David Ford, the guy that song would tell
- 2:13:52California. His name is Don Henley and
- 2:13:55claims according to Google that he has Jewish the Jewish faith.
- 2:14:00It's basically in the Judaism. Sure, that's interesting.
- 2:14:06I'm not surprise there. Hey only all say that Anton
- 2:14:10LaVey was a Jew and yet he was a member of a white nationalist,
- 2:14:13you know Nazi group. What you guys?
- 2:14:18I got a question for you guys you ever heard of the acoustic
- 2:14:21record? What your what her to do?
- 2:14:26What were the mop? No, no, if you ever heard you
- 2:14:30want to bang your dick with them pole?
- 2:14:32What? Sorry, sorry, go ahead.
- 2:14:37Seriously, no if you ever heard of the akashic records.
- 2:14:42It's like some ancient thing. I think I have this is a
- 2:14:45talking. Yes, like it's like the
- 2:14:47universal Library where where you can tap into set up with
- 2:14:51your mind. Something like that.
- 2:14:54I heard of it I've heard of it I've heard of it.
- 2:14:56Basically it's it's like a library or type of book or
- 2:15:01whatnot, but you can't read it in person.
- 2:15:04You can't physically hold it. It's a spiritual book.
- 2:15:06So you have to go into the astral plane in order to read
- 2:15:09it. Yeah.
- 2:15:09I've heard that. Well, what do you think about
- 2:15:14it? I mean what what do you think
- 2:15:16could be the purpose or use of something?
- 2:15:19I dial like why would it why would exist?
- 2:15:23well, even in Satanism we have something similar on the first
- 2:15:27level of how limbo there is the Oh, no, limbo Citadel element
- 2:15:35the same though. Oh, yeah, it is live.
- 2:15:40Oh that I broke. Come on little boys.
- 2:15:44Like about Library. Oh, yeah about a library.
- 2:15:47Yeah, limbo has something like that.
- 2:15:50I'm not even playing with you. This is even in Dante's Inferno.
- 2:15:53You can go read it for yourself. Okay, um actually have the name
- 2:15:59of it and just give me one second limbo the assadel The
- 2:16:04Citadel of human reason. Yeah, that's what I thought it
- 2:16:06was and basically when you read about limbo in Dante's Inferno,
- 2:16:13It is where the endante's Inferno.
- 2:16:16It's where the pious pagans go. So it's a diminished form of
- 2:16:21Heaven. And they have all the knowledge
- 2:16:26of the world right there in books.
- 2:16:31And they can read they can debate with each other.
- 2:16:34They have all sorts of different things.
- 2:16:36So yeah, that would be if you want to talk about in akashic.
- 2:16:40Library that's where it's going to be.
- 2:16:43That's interesting did not grow spiritual realm.
- 2:16:47Oh, well, they even debate. What is there to debate a
- 2:16:50validity? I would think that's that would
- 2:16:53be if there is a God Almighty, I would think that would be him
- 2:16:58and that and that whatever that inspiration that everybody seems
- 2:17:03to be connected to I mean everybody seems to be getting
- 2:17:06inspired one way or another by by God Almighty and often at
- 2:17:11times, you know, it might be demons inspiring them to do
- 2:17:15things and act on impulse but the inspiration that people can
- 2:17:21can connect to here and there. I mean look just because
- 2:17:25somebody gave it a name called the akashic records one time
- 2:17:28doesn't mean it was even something ancient might even
- 2:17:30more ancient, you know, because knowledge of God Almighty has
- 2:17:34been known for for since forever and support that supposedly you
- 2:17:38can actually You know get whatever you want from him, like
- 2:17:42like literally like anything like a problem solving in any
- 2:17:47kind of way of shape or form. You know and that's why I have a
- 2:17:52question for you. I have a question for you.
- 2:17:53How old do you think the Earth is?
- 2:17:57How old you said that knowledge gone Almighty has been since
- 2:18:02forever. How old do you think the Earth
- 2:18:04is? Well, I'm not sure.
- 2:18:09Okay, I don't know younger or you evolutionists or how just on
- 2:18:15it. I definitely don't believe that
- 2:18:17the world is millions or billions of years old.
- 2:18:20That's that's the for sure thing.
- 2:18:24But I also don't know. How old is I can't save the
- 2:18:27story, you know, I mean, it could be it could be six or six
- 2:18:31thousand years 12,000 years, you know, I just don't know so I
- 2:18:35can't I can't really save the short.
- 2:18:37We got a new guest in here. Hold on.
- 2:18:41Hold on. Hello Brady.
- 2:18:43How are you? Grady hello Wait friend on mute
- 2:18:49himself. Hey Brady, tell us your
- 2:18:51theological position and political disposition.
- 2:18:55Well, I sorry for the delay there guys.
- 2:18:57I'm actually an atheist. I've just kind of been listening
- 2:19:02just kind of absorbing the points.
- 2:19:03You've all been making. So if you guys want to continue
- 2:19:07I can I can stay here in the background for a couple minutes.
- 2:19:09Just kind of absorb my gather my thoughts.
- 2:19:11Well, you guys are getting ready for me.
- 2:19:12Well Brady, welcome to the room. You are more than welcome to
- 2:19:16participate in the conversation. I hope you're having a blessed
- 2:19:19day. Hey, thanks Brett.
- 2:19:21You too. Well, listen guys, I got to run.
- 2:19:25But I don't runs my goodness man.
- 2:19:30Get some toilet paper for that. but listen I would like on I
- 2:19:41don't know before death discussion on your Not religion,
- 2:19:48but well, yes religion or belief system or or whatever.
- 2:19:51I mean no, of course, no judgment or anything, but I
- 2:19:58would like to kind of kind of dig in and see what See what you
- 2:20:05believe. in moron I don't know even every Monday and Friday
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- 2:21:26Okay, so would that be something that you would consider or yeah,
- 2:21:31you're more than welcome to come on to my show whenever I'm doing
- 2:21:33it tomorrow. We are going to be doing a
- 2:21:36satanic high mass. For the full moon, so we will be
- 2:21:40in the black parlor here in my home which is our Satanic ritual
- 2:21:44chamber and you get see candles going buyers being lit, you know
- 2:21:48Souls being emulated. That sort of thing.
- 2:21:53Okay. Well, we'll definitely see you
- 2:21:57later then. All right later David.
- 2:22:00It was a pleasure talking to you.
- 2:22:01Yep. Let me tell.
- 2:22:04All right, so we'll turn your mind there Brady.
- 2:22:07You look like you got thoughts happening.
- 2:22:08Oh not one of them. I thought I was.
- 2:22:15Oh, no, no. No, it's just interested.
- 2:22:20I'm never met like a real like Satanist.
- 2:22:22Is that what you would classify yourself as?
- 2:22:25Yep. Wow, yeah, really quick
- 2:22:28question. You're not going to do anything
- 2:22:29weird on camera. You're not going to strip or
- 2:22:31flash your dick or anything, right?
- 2:22:34Well, I prefer I don't do that because that'd be pretty
- 2:22:36destructive my reputation. But great trying to be mean or
- 2:22:41anything. We have a lot of atheists that
- 2:22:43come in. They think it's pornhub or
- 2:22:45something. They want to show us their
- 2:22:46stuff. I don't know what that is.
- 2:22:49The worst things that they don't even play it out.
- 2:22:52You know go for the climax. Yeah, you don't even give you
- 2:22:58the courtesy of a reach around exactly you anyways if you're
- 2:23:04not gonna do anything weird on camera Brett.
- 2:23:06Do you think we can bring them up so we can all like talk
- 2:23:08face-to-face because I can't even see him.
- 2:23:10All right, let's do it. All right, no, nasty nothing.
- 2:23:14Nobody Christian. He He's a pretty boy. a pretty
- 2:23:21boy don't say it's a pretty woman welcome.
- 2:23:25My ego is already too big. You can't do this to me.
- 2:23:29Oh, oh, well, you know I run the club and hook magazine.
- 2:23:36If you want to be a male centerfold sometime you can
- 2:23:38always do that. Oh really satanic alter.
- 2:23:42I am pretty sure some of our gay readers would be happy to see
- 2:23:46there gay right female readers too, you know.
- 2:23:51All right, but baby you get an opportunity to discussion
- 2:23:56between Mr. Lucifer as well as Kent earlier.
- 2:24:00No, I didn't I just be right back. ah fair enough fair enough
- 2:24:07All right. Well, let me know when you
- 2:24:08ready. I'll put you back up on the big
- 2:24:10screen. So you had said that you were
- 2:24:13you're non-believer. We always put new people on
- 2:24:16Hotspot just for a little bit. What is your views?
- 2:24:19And where you a former Christian before becoming a would you call
- 2:24:23yourself a humanist atheist or what form?
- 2:24:26Are you? That's a good question.
- 2:24:28I mean, I wouldn't really classify myself as anything.
- 2:24:30I don't like labels typically. I was a Christian until about
- 2:24:35like 14 or 15 years old. And then I just kind of checked
- 2:24:39out a religion because I went through high school was like
- 2:24:42well I believe evolution is true and I believe the Bible's true
- 2:24:46and one of those things it's probably wrong and it's probably
- 2:24:49the thing that has no evidence. So I just stopped believing in
- 2:24:51Christianity. Well, there's some religious
- 2:24:53people out there like Kenneth Miller who teaches and I believe
- 2:24:57the University or college where he's the Roman Catholic but he
- 2:25:01also accepts Evolution so you can believe in a God and believe
- 2:25:06also that God created Evolution Darwin believed that a higher
- 2:25:10power was required in order for that.
- 2:25:12And for anybody out there that says no breath.
- 2:25:14That's nonsense. Darwin didn't say that here.
- 2:25:17Here you go. Just real quick.
- 2:25:18See I always have the stuff on hand and my wonderful Lucifer or
- 2:25:23what he gets you are. Well that quotes for me.
- 2:25:26Okay when I read here I'm just sort of Connections in the
- 2:25:29existent God connected. So this this is just a this is
- 2:25:34just Charles Darwin quote that he believed that in God when he
- 2:25:37died. He believed if you look you'll
- 2:25:40see at the bottom where it says when thus reflecting I feel
- 2:25:43compelled to look at a first cause having an intelligent mind
- 2:25:47in some degree analogous to man and I deserve to be called the
- 2:25:51theist a lot of these type of things can be found in his book
- 2:25:54called the sense of man as well as his autobiography.
- 2:25:57So what you thoughts on that, can you have a God and also have
- 2:26:01Evolution absolutely as a matter of fact, that's the position of
- 2:26:04many Catholic Are many people in the Catholic church, that's
- 2:26:09actually the official position of the Catholic Church.
- 2:26:16Is the Madrid was too small? Let me go ahead and ban him for
- 2:26:20Life. There was a midget.
- 2:26:23You later there Brady. Well, nobody was able to see it.
- 2:26:26It was too small. So really stupid as hell.
- 2:26:29What the hell? Anyways, right here we retarded
- 2:26:34we were being nice to him. We were having a respectful
- 2:26:37conversations actually a good conversation, but he know And
- 2:26:43unfortunately, this is the reason unfortunately, this is
- 2:26:46the sort of reason why I don't communicate with atheists hardly
- 2:26:49at all anymore. Now that I really cannot stand
- 2:26:52because every single time they act like that.
- 2:26:55Yeah, definitely ridiculous now but conversation with them.
- 2:27:00Sorry about that yet, but I'm wondering is how can you look so
- 2:27:02preppy and be so childish? you know, that's what it's
- 2:27:07whatever though, you know a good a good question was asked
- 2:27:10though, and I honestly Yeah, you can't you can't believe in God
- 2:27:16and also Evolution at the same time.
- 2:27:18It's just But I mean, you can also be stupid about it and
- 2:27:23believe in a certain kind of evolution.
- 2:27:24That's not really Evolution because evolution is real but no
- 2:27:28no it's not available. Yeah, there's this people have
- 2:27:33different definitions of all kinds of different ideas of
- 2:27:36whatever evolution is. That's what I give me a favor
- 2:27:39real quick because I do notice that there's sometimes an issue
- 2:27:42with folks. They say a word they say they
- 2:27:45believe in a word but they don't really know what the word means.
- 2:27:47What do you think evolution is actually defined as if you don't
- 2:27:53mind. I'm not trying to embarrass you.
- 2:27:54I just want to understand what you're interpretation of this.
- 2:27:59Well, see that's that's what things get interesting because
- 2:28:03um Evolution has a lot to do with with DNA in various
- 2:28:08different ways to a lot of different people like like I
- 2:28:11remember can't hold and mentioning like five different
- 2:28:13known different are talking about ideas of evolution.
- 2:28:20Yeah, but on But I would even say that there's even a more how
- 2:28:26you say a more true of evolution and I would say that involves
- 2:28:30the human soul and how people's actions and every experience in
- 2:28:34life actually changes. Not only your soul but even your
- 2:28:38body and yeah, I would say that would be the that would be the
- 2:28:43true Evolution and that everything else is mutation
- 2:28:46instead, you know, like we're vaccines and how people are
- 2:28:49tamper, you know, like even fans humanism people people will
- 2:28:53eventually start calling that Evolution but that but most of
- 2:28:58the most of the things that people call evolution is when
- 2:29:01people tamper with nature and I would say that's more of a
- 2:29:05mutation that then they never lose them because every you
- 2:29:08don't know sounds like you're going into like a different view
- 2:29:12that that you have about it, but you're not exactly defining it
- 2:29:16just for people out there that are listening the issue that
- 2:29:20Christians have one of the big reasons why Problem as
- 2:29:24Christians believe that God created man already upright and
- 2:29:27ready to go is where Evolution States from the point of a
- 2:29:31biogenesis you start out as a little booger booger starts
- 2:29:35changing becomes many different forms gets hit by lightning
- 2:29:39becomes sentient and starts changing throughout the ocean
- 2:29:42then comes up on land after growing some feet and some lungs
- 2:29:45and it learns how to roller skate at some point in time.
- 2:29:48Just a simplistic words that too.
- 2:29:53You know talking about like that's the part that Christians
- 2:29:56get all wild and and aggravated about so, you know my question.
- 2:30:01Here's my question though. Yes, we do have Evolution.
- 2:30:06Yes, we have all sorts of things.
- 2:30:08It could be disputed each. Either way.
- 2:30:11I think the fact that there can be a dispute between creationism
- 2:30:16and Evolution shows holes in both theories and I'm a you
- 2:30:21know, this is coming from a guy who was raised very scientific
- 2:30:24my dad. He was immense, you know, he was
- 2:30:27a Mensa guy he so is my mother I'm a man so Legacy, you know,
- 2:30:33so Were you know, it's not it's not like you're we're stupid
- 2:30:39people, but the fact that there can be holes punched in both.
- 2:30:43arguments shows that perhaps you know, there's something to be
- 2:30:49discussed there that should be discussed in a logical sense
- 2:30:52that can be holes punch and Christian quote unquote
- 2:30:56creationism because they don't really actually believe in
- 2:30:59creation. But obviously can't hope he
- 2:31:02does. What he says he does, but he
- 2:31:05doesn't actually believe that look if you were to ask Kenneth
- 2:31:08Hoven did a did God create the Dalmatia.
- 2:31:11They'll say no. If you guys can have the heat
- 2:31:14curate the panda bear, he'll say no.
- 2:31:16Do you think he created you know the zebra he'll say no.
- 2:31:20They don't actually believe in creation.
- 2:31:23They believe in what is called Pokemon evolution.
- 2:31:26So they believe God created this you Darth.
- 2:31:32Your microphone has changed. I don't know.
- 2:31:35It sounds like you're speaking to a laptop now instead of like
- 2:31:38an actual mic. Is that better?
- 2:31:41You were coming through clears as they earlier, but now you're
- 2:31:46more muffled. Let me check.
- 2:31:48Let me check my settings. Did you put on your Star Wars
- 2:31:51helmet or something? A person could a person could
- 2:31:56technically say that the Genesis story about Adam and Eve was a
- 2:32:01matter of the medic better? Yeah, that's good one could say
- 2:32:06that the Genesis story was not to be taken literal and that it
- 2:32:10was just a parable or teaching of God with some religious
- 2:32:14people do in order to go along with Evolution.
- 2:32:16But you do see the conflict one's claiming that you come
- 2:32:20from a like a single-celled organism is where you got a book
- 2:32:24that's saying hey God created the man already up and also took
- 2:32:28the rib from man and created a woman unless you go at the
- 2:32:31lowest story. Well, the the way to atheist to
- 2:32:35find evolution is dissent with modification and all this is
- 2:32:39really just saying There's a change.
- 2:32:42Well, no, duh. There's a change nothing can
- 2:32:45ever be an exact copy of the other thing. plus it's a mixture
- 2:32:50of two things the DNA so it change just simply saying change
- 2:32:56therefore evolution is very disingenous.
- 2:32:59And this is disingenuous stock tactic they use and they know
- 2:33:03it. But this is a way this is used
- 2:33:06to make Evolution unfalifiable because change is like
- 2:33:11inevitable. So you can never truly falsifi
- 2:33:15evolution by this definition. And so the the better definition
- 2:33:18like you said earlier, they're Keen Brett is a that it that the
- 2:33:24the diversity of life forms today originate from a single
- 2:33:29self-life form because then that forces that the definition to be
- 2:33:33darwinistic Right, right. Hey Lucifer.
- 2:33:38Have you ever heard? I think that Mr. Darth has heard
- 2:33:42this but have you ever heard of the Fermi Paradox argument
- 2:33:46before? No, I can't say that I have well
- 2:33:49the Fermi Paradox concept, I'll make it real quick scientists
- 2:33:54claim that they're literally billions of planets scattered
- 2:33:57throughout this University is over 200 billion light years
- 2:34:01across but not one single one of these planets have we seen any
- 2:34:06observation of life forms or abiogenesis?
- 2:34:10So the question is if evolution is true and a biogenesis is
- 2:34:15true. Then why don't we see it on all
- 2:34:17the other worlds? We'll look at the equipment that
- 2:34:22we're requested. Look at the equipment up until
- 2:34:25the most recent telescope that they put up in the sky.
- 2:34:29I forget what it's called. This new one.
- 2:34:33We are seeing other planets that they have actually found planets
- 2:34:36that they believe there is life on.
- 2:34:39That there is there's been like at least one or two that
- 2:34:41actually look like it has cities.
- 2:34:44That's what's crazy because even if it's just one or two, that's
- 2:34:47that's not good enough because you got to consider how many
- 2:34:50planets and and how far back in time you need to you would need
- 2:34:55to you know, it would help you. Yeah, they would have to be way
- 2:35:02more. Whatever.
- 2:35:03Yes, hold on a second. Let me do the screenshot.
- 2:35:06Hello. Zadie.
- 2:35:08How are you? Hi, I'm doing all right.
- 2:35:13How are you doing Brett? We're doing pretty good.
- 2:35:15We're just sitting here talking about the difference between
- 2:35:18Theology and evolution and all that but we are open to talk
- 2:35:24about anything's 80. Is there anything on your mind
- 2:35:26before you well, I'm kind of So I was confirmed Missouri son,
- 2:35:33and I'm kind of leaning towards. Not really believing in God too
- 2:35:37much. Well, what is your criteria for
- 2:35:39not believing? Um I don't know just like I
- 2:35:45don't know. I don't feel like there's
- 2:35:46anything else out there. You know, we're kind of just
- 2:35:49gonna die and then everything goes black I guess so you
- 2:35:53haven't really thought about this.
- 2:35:54Have you Oh, yeah, I did. I mean I did two years in
- 2:35:58confirmation and it was really bad.
- 2:36:00So so they you know, hold on. Do you close your thoughts to
- 2:36:07the idea of aliens or other entities existing in the
- 2:36:11universe altogether? No.
- 2:36:15So why would you have a hard time believing that there's an
- 2:36:18advanced being out there that knows how to terraform or
- 2:36:22transform matter? I don't know.
- 2:36:25I just I don't know. I feel like I believe in aliens
- 2:36:29more than a God because why would all this shitty things
- 2:36:33happen in the world, you know? But there was a guy like, why
- 2:36:38would he do that to all of us? That's what you're not gonna put
- 2:36:42up any pornhub or nasty stuff. Are you?
- 2:36:47Why would you ask me that because I really that's just the
- 2:36:54moment ago. I have atheists that come in and
- 2:36:55they do that to me on a daily. So that's really yeah the things
- 2:37:00you try to do it. I can't do it.
- 2:37:02All right, it's not offensive just that's nothing.
- 2:37:08So I'm good. Why would okay.
- 2:37:10Okay. So so Sadie just real quick.
- 2:37:13Okay. Would you define the concept of
- 2:37:16God as an alien? I guess I never thought of it in
- 2:37:23that. Way like you you know.
- 2:37:28You just hanging out on a UFO or something.
- 2:37:31What doesn't have to be a UFO but let's just say life story
- 2:37:35life forms aren't another world or other universes you believe
- 2:37:39the possibility of that. Yeah, I don't know we can't be
- 2:37:44the only thing out there I guess.
- 2:37:45I don't know. How do you so confident that
- 2:37:49there's no God just because shitty things happen in the
- 2:37:52world. That doesn't mean that there
- 2:37:54isn't some kind of entity or something out there.
- 2:37:56That's keeping an eye. That's true because there's
- 2:37:59yeah. Take it down.
- 2:38:01Okay. Yeah, that's yeah, I kind of
- 2:38:07wish she had just just freaking up and lifted her shirt and gave
- 2:38:11us all I know what I forgotten flash.
- 2:38:13Like I know right that's why didn't you realize it was one of
- 2:38:21the reasons this is one of the reasons why Christians as well
- 2:38:25as obviously theistic Satanist can't get along with atheists.
- 2:38:28We're sitting here showing respect and decency trying to
- 2:38:32have an in-depth conversation. And as soon as their little
- 2:38:35brain cells start to sizzle and oh no, I'm starting to think
- 2:38:39about stuff. I never thought before let me
- 2:38:41throw some tits up there and come on people relax.
- 2:38:44You don't know has given us a flash of her own kids.
- 2:38:48I mean looking girl. She wasn't pretty I mean, I've
- 2:38:53seen worse and both sides boobs are boobs.
- 2:38:59Yeah, I've seen I've seen better.
- 2:39:03She looked like a cross between us.
- 2:39:05She looked like something those that actually fought for the
- 2:39:08idea of evolution. Well, I mean, that's a problem.
- 2:39:16We need to get Lady by on here when you get Lady by I know John
- 2:39:20he's gonna agree with that. We need to get a lady by you you
- 2:39:22want you want to have somebody who if they flash they're gonna
- 2:39:25give you a good show. Yeah lady show, but that's the
- 2:39:29thing don't give this to the time of day this while my
- 2:39:31questions are so aggressive so It's to put them it's not only
- 2:39:36to make a point but it's also it's also meant to put them down
- 2:39:38to make them think like you actually have no points.
- 2:39:42That's why I asked. Well, what's your criteria?
- 2:39:45Because as they can't answer that.
- 2:39:47I know they have no point. Yeah.
- 2:39:51So if you lose it for and I've heard you say this and I've
- 2:39:55heard some other folks say this if there is a God then why is
- 2:39:58there bad things that happen now?
- 2:40:00We do realize that biblically and most of these theologies.
- 2:40:04It says that it's gonna rain on the Justinian jobs.
- 2:40:07It never went argues that the world and life is going to be
- 2:40:10fair. So why do people believe that
- 2:40:13the city things are happening this amount equals God doesn't
- 2:40:16exist. It seems like a weird argument.
- 2:40:19I I really don't know. I mean I never thought that way
- 2:40:22get it from the tiktok. It's you ever The Logical
- 2:40:25problem. Evil.
- 2:40:26This is like a famous argument that the atheist still think
- 2:40:30it's viable. And it's just an it's just an
- 2:40:34emotional appeal. It's a it appeals to the
- 2:40:36instantaneous emotion or those people in doubt those who have
- 2:40:40or disgruntled with creation and disgrunter with their lives.
- 2:40:43So it's an easy, you know. It's emotionally illusion in
- 2:40:47chaos, you know that they you know, they just will not let us
- 2:40:50win. They don't want us to know the
- 2:40:51truth about anything right, but that right there is just
- 2:40:54straight up confusion. That's really what it is.
- 2:40:58If there is no entity or no concept of a God or Lucifer or
- 2:41:03Satan or any of these things then the atheist doesn't well,
- 2:41:08I'm just saying that a person who doesn't believe there's a
- 2:41:11God or an objective Creed or prime mover.
- 2:41:14They don't really have any moral framework in order to say what
- 2:41:17is right or wrong or good or evil so why did they even
- 2:41:21bother? I mean to come up here and say
- 2:41:23have this subject it's going on in the world is evil.
- 2:41:26Okay? So, where do you even get the
- 2:41:28concept of evil? You don't believe there's
- 2:41:30anything that created evil or good I know right there their
- 2:41:35whole complain is baseless because they themselves only
- 2:41:38believe it's evil. There is no even the world you
- 2:41:40have. Hey, could you how could you
- 2:41:42make the complain? See, but that's the thing about
- 2:41:45it is I just people just like knowledge and that's where you
- 2:41:48know people eventually get into trouble in most cases because if
- 2:41:52people understood, you know how God operates in the universe.
- 2:41:57Well, he's literally everything we are like in his stomach, you
- 2:42:01know, hit me up for a second. We're supposed supposedly in his
- 2:42:05stomach when his body basically. No, I mean not really like that
- 2:42:09but it's like the Matrix not you know, like he's in here and all
- 2:42:14around and within in all kinds of ways that he's basically, you
- 2:42:18know here with us at all times and that's why I brought up the
- 2:42:21cautious record earlier how it could be having into him because
- 2:42:25he has records of everything that has happened suppose it,
- 2:42:30right, you know, he knows whenever he knows when
- 2:42:32everything happened and every at every Point all of that so I
- 2:42:35mean that could very well be the caution Records.
- 2:42:37Who knows but what let's say, let's say somebody where to come
- 2:42:41in here Mr. Lucifer and they say that the hundred percent don't
- 2:42:46agree with anything that you say they don't believe anything that
- 2:42:49you say, but then they turn around and say you're evil.
- 2:42:53Wouldn't you ask based upon what what you got to have something
- 2:42:57to compare that to in order to be able to make that assertion
- 2:43:01do you follow? Well, here's the thing when she
- 2:43:03said evil she was referring to the painfulness in her life the
- 2:43:08evenness that God made her ugly and she wants to be because all
- 2:43:12women want to be pretty yeah, he's controversial but yes women
- 2:43:16want to be pretty and that's good thing, but they see there's
- 2:43:20they're not prettiness as some evil.
- 2:43:23God has done upon them. And so they're now, you know
- 2:43:27exactly right there. I mean she was she was just
- 2:43:30mostly upset that the fact that there was at least two guys here
- 2:43:33that didn't want to see her boobs.
- 2:43:35Yeah, and so now you're worth are you saying that she's an
- 2:43:40atheist because whenever she was younger her parents had the Thai
- 2:43:43ports out front her neck just to get the pet dog to play with
- 2:43:46her. Oh sure that they died the pork
- 2:43:56chop around her neck and out some place else just to give her
- 2:43:59a little bit of pleasure. They had it they had a tie up
- 2:44:01the doctor to make But yeah, well you think you could because
- 2:44:07they think God owes them a living now, you know something
- 2:44:11something bad has happened in my life.
- 2:44:13Not God owes me a living sad mentality, you know, you know,
- 2:44:18we can always ask this one if she would, you know, go for a
- 2:44:22pork chop of those tied around her.
- 2:44:24I hear you there. He what do you have to say?
- 2:44:30What do you have to say? Would you eat a pork chop around
- 2:44:33that one today? No.
- 2:44:34No. Oh you're hiding your face now.
- 2:44:37Okay, I think that's an answer that she ran away.
- 2:44:41She was like, no, that's just too much. here those atheists
- 2:44:50right now is up the leg of your drawers.
- 2:44:54I don't want anything to do with you.
- 2:44:56There you go. I hear you man.
- 2:45:00It's because most of them are what I So most of them are
- 2:45:04uneducated they don't behave themselves like Christopher
- 2:45:07Hitchens or Sam Hyde, I believe or something.
- 2:45:10Not not Sam had Sam that atheist on you know, he was a popular
- 2:45:14atheist back in a while 2016, you know, the the portray
- 2:45:19themselves as an intellectual British people.
- 2:45:21They just give all the pompous British accent and now, you
- 2:45:25know, you're a gentleman and sophisticating atheistic.
- 2:45:30Go lay down. Nothing.
- 2:45:32Yeah, and I just my my personal opinion is is the people
- 2:45:38nowadays. They don't I don't know what
- 2:45:40happened to People's intelligence.
- 2:45:42You know, how is it that a guy like me?
- 2:45:45Can you saw how Brett was acting when or not Brett but can't
- 2:45:50Sorry Brad and was acting towards me initially when the
- 2:45:55show started, you know, he was being a little bit of hostel.
- 2:45:59He was trying to put me down a little bit and how is it that we
- 2:46:02can go from that to him and I sharing a common dialogue and
- 2:46:06yet you can't have that with an atheist.
- 2:46:10Why yes, I think I think one of the big reasons for that loose
- 2:46:14fair enough to excellent point but I think it's because Kent
- 2:46:18has dealt with so many atheists and been in so many discussions
- 2:46:22and seeing the the hostility and the hatred the nastiness coming
- 2:46:27from them that he never knows what he's going to get into
- 2:46:29whenever he goes to have a discussion at least and social
- 2:46:32media. So he's basically trying the
- 2:46:35waters within when he realized you weren't hostile and you
- 2:46:38weren't gonna throw poop at him or you know flashy tits.
- 2:46:41He realize you can have a good discussion with you.
- 2:46:43That's why things cool down. I think that's my theory.
- 2:46:47But this is the normal if I'm talking to another theist.
- 2:46:52It doesn't matter what their theistic in they could be a
- 2:46:55theistic Satanist that it could be theistic Wiccan.
- 2:46:58They can be a Christian they could if they're they are
- 2:47:01theistic at some point in time. I can find common ground with
- 2:47:06them. Okay, and I've noticed this
- 2:47:09between other theists too. It doesn't matter if they're
- 2:47:11arguing on a normal basis about their different denominations.
- 2:47:15They can find common ground at some stage in the game.
- 2:47:21But you can know it never seems to be the case when you're
- 2:47:24coming up against an atheist that you can find Common Ground.
- 2:47:27They won't let it go to that distance.
- 2:47:29I would say because I attend a lot of these, you know
- 2:47:33denominations versus don't denomination debates on Praises
- 2:47:38Channel and it's what brings them together is all that
- 2:47:43actually both sides are trying to get to the truth.
- 2:47:45And so, you know, they'll make a point, you know, somebody who
- 2:47:49provider a bottle but It ultimately the goals still with
- 2:47:52them is to find the truth of the Bible.
- 2:47:55In him, but in this atheism versus Christian debate, it's
- 2:48:00never that it's mostly about Hawk and my idea my ideology
- 2:48:05bash your ideology. It's never actually about
- 2:48:07finding what is true. exactly I agree with that.
- 2:48:14I agree with that and I really do think that people's beliefs
- 2:48:19and their worldview and all that also has an impact on the way.
- 2:48:23They they think and the way they behave towards others like for
- 2:48:27you you've got a you've got a code treat people with respect.
- 2:48:30But if they disrespect to you, then you smash them with the
- 2:48:34hammer type of ideology. I for an I teach for tooth, but
- 2:48:38what if somebody believes they evolved from a fucking slut what
- 2:48:41if somebody thinks that they have no value or worth in the
- 2:48:45universe and they don't even they don't even show up on the
- 2:48:47radar. What should you expect somebody
- 2:48:49like that to act like yeah, there you yeah, and then trying
- 2:48:55to inflict that pain on others as well.
- 2:48:56They they won the hostility to be with with still with another
- 2:49:01as they feel. Yeah, and it's absolutely
- 2:49:06ridiculous. I mean just you know, and I
- 2:49:09don't I don't get it. I don't really don't get it.
- 2:49:11Well as obviously the operating who's just don't know what they
- 2:49:14went through, you know, because they're individuals but it's
- 2:49:18obviously obviously has to do with the upbringing.
- 2:49:21It's one thing to be individual, you know, individualistic.
- 2:49:25I mean Satanism preaches individuality, but what we're
- 2:49:29doing goes well beyond that I would say parenting has a lot to
- 2:49:33do with how things turn out to that degree at least.
- 2:49:37Check this outward prefer. Look at what a scientist at an
- 2:49:41experiment on you're gonna like this.
- 2:49:44Are you able to see the wording? Let me get rid of the banner.
- 2:49:47So it's not in the way. Okay, let me read this atheist
- 2:49:51admit their disbelief link to emotional discomfort 72% of 429
- 2:49:58American adults of self-reported atheists indicate some
- 2:50:02relational and emotional reasons for their non-belief.
- 2:50:07Great Bradley, David F Julie J. How do you pronounce An Egg's
- 2:50:15line Exline and Alex? Who's I think that's her last
- 2:50:21names? That's causing all the problem.
- 2:50:23I've died being a non-believer if I had a last name like that
- 2:50:26as well the god of non-believers the characteristic of
- 2:50:30hypothetical God science religion and culture is RC 2.3
- 2:50:362015. Oh 120 through 30 web.
- 2:50:41I don't even know what that last basically the source of the
- 2:50:45information where it can be found and all that.
- 2:50:48It's whatever people want to do with that.
- 2:50:51But it's basically telling you that 72 between 80 and 72
- 2:50:55percent of people who claim to be atheists.
- 2:50:58They didn't do it for rational logical reasons or because of
- 2:51:01some form of evidence given to them they did it because
- 2:51:04something bad happened or something uncomfortable happened
- 2:51:08in their existence. So they decide to suppress their
- 2:51:11viewer in the concept of higher Powers.
- 2:51:13There you go. Okay, so going back to that
- 2:51:17chick that was here. She's upset that Daddy gave her
- 2:51:21dick. No, it's probably because of the
- 2:51:24guy that she's in a relationship with he's stupid.
- 2:51:26So now she's like stupid too. Nah stupid.
- 2:51:29Yeah stupid stupidity is contagious stupid as a stupid
- 2:51:34does. No, he did.
- 2:51:40He infect her with his stupid dick.
- 2:51:42Is stupid stick? Yeah, but don't you see the the
- 2:51:48pattern besides them being nasty and having ignorant Behavior?
- 2:51:51If you notice every time we have an atheist, come on the show one
- 2:51:54of the first things is why does God allow this if there's a God
- 2:51:58why does he allow this? It's always some kind of loss or
- 2:52:02tragedy or something and you know, that that's gonna be a
- 2:52:04subconscious question. No, here's here's something I
- 2:52:08want to ask everybody. Did they notice something when
- 2:52:10she did that and turned it around to the phone.
- 2:52:13Did you notice it was the same porno the other guy was playing
- 2:52:17Yeah, that's how I can tell they were they were obviously in the
- 2:52:20same room and I could hear him cat went back there.
- 2:52:22Like somebody tickled his tank. Yeah, we knew that something was
- 2:52:26about happened. But how can you blame God for
- 2:52:31everything if he gave us free will though, you know, he
- 2:52:35didn't. Everybody has we will not do to
- 2:52:40God. That was the serpents doing.
- 2:52:42Look at your Genesis. God did not give free will.
- 2:52:46It was the serpent telling you go ahead and eat the damn fruit.
- 2:52:50That was the case when we look at the go also read The
- 2:52:54Apocalypse of Adam where Adam is talking to Seth.
- 2:52:58And he's explaining he literally says no they already out of
- 2:53:03here. We served God and the apocalypse
- 2:53:05about him look it up. They already have free will
- 2:53:07because then they were able to make that choice in the first
- 2:53:10place it did if they were if they didn't get it.
- 2:53:13They didn't know any better they were you know, God and God told
- 2:53:16them don't eat it and they were listening to him.
- 2:53:18It was only the different story. That was the toys that they
- 2:53:24disobeyed God and that's Choice. Let me have you will let me
- 2:53:30explain that so First you need to Define what evil is and evil
- 2:53:35is defined with three things. You need three components for
- 2:53:37evil the action. but really question quickly dark, sorry for
- 2:53:42interrupting you how does evil correlate free will In this
- 2:53:47instance. No, we'll get to that I think
- 2:53:50okay, as soon as I Define evil, you kind of get it so you need a
- 2:53:54the action itself. Then the knowledge.
- 2:53:59And the intention those three things so when Adam ate off the
- 2:54:05apple, he had no knowledge prior to it. but he did have intention
- 2:54:11and in the in the he had the intention and he actually did
- 2:54:17the action. But the truly evil came was
- 2:54:21after he ate it so when he failed to repent of his action.
- 2:54:26That was when he was truly. Committed evil.
- 2:54:32Because let's say let's say you're there.
- 2:54:36There's a room right and there's one button and the bun says if
- 2:54:40you press this button the whole world is destroyed.
- 2:54:44A baby can come and press the button has no knowledge of what
- 2:54:47it's what they will do invested. Anyway is the people no because
- 2:54:54the baby had no knowledge and let's say a serial killer is in
- 2:54:57a room presses the button. Well, he has intention knowledge
- 2:55:01and he has actually done it that is evil.
- 2:55:04But let's say somebody just stumbles and accidentally
- 2:55:07presses the button where they had no intention of pressing the
- 2:55:10button even they even despite them doing it.
- 2:55:13They are not evil because they had no intention.
- 2:55:17So you need to fulfill all three components.
- 2:55:20To actually be declared evil. One of the other things is
- 2:55:27interested. One of the other things why you
- 2:55:30can put God behind the concept of Free Will as he's originally
- 2:55:34the one that created the tree and according to Christians.
- 2:55:37I know this may not be the same theologies yourself.
- 2:55:40But according to Christians God created the serpent.
- 2:55:43So everything that was happening in these parameters was all in
- 2:55:48design. Some people could actually say
- 2:55:50that God wanted it to happen or predetermined for it to happen.
- 2:55:54In order for it doesn't say that in the book at all, you know.
- 2:55:57No, but every one of those individuals in that story had
- 2:56:01had choices to make and they made a choice.
- 2:56:04Yeah, that's free will. Yeah Adam family.
- 2:56:07He what I don't feel when he failed to make the choice to
- 2:56:10repent after eating the fruit. It wasn't before eating the
- 2:56:13fruit. It wasn't given the choice to
- 2:56:15repent show me in the Book of Genesis where he was given the
- 2:56:17choice to repent and then turn it down.
- 2:56:19Well, show me you show that part in the Book of Genesis waiting
- 2:56:24that choice. No, it's right Mr. Darth.
- 2:56:28There isn't the moment where God says.
- 2:56:30All right, you two can get forgiveness right now and we'll
- 2:56:33just let bygones be bygones. No, there was a obviously the
- 2:56:37desire to make this continue. Yeah, can I pull up and present
- 2:56:42a screen really quickly? Sure, you can you don't have to
- 2:56:47ask just make it happen. All right, so I'm gonna share my
- 2:56:51screen guys you All right, so really quickly here you can
- 2:57:02actually look this up. There are many apocalypse as
- 2:57:05that were written. The only apocalypse that is
- 2:57:08accepted in the books in. In the Bible is the book is the
- 2:57:16apocalypse of John. This is one of the secondary
- 2:57:19apocalypse is called The Apocalypse of Adam.
- 2:57:22Now if you look at this highlighted section here, this
- 2:57:26is the first part of the Apocalypse of Adam and we're
- 2:57:30Adam is teaching his son Seth. about create, you know his
- 2:57:37Origins and he names God. Sakla.
- 2:57:41And this is galga Bay off the Demi urge actually if I
- 2:57:45highlight this you can see that right there, but he says to and
- 2:57:51you can actually find better ones in this I just pulled up
- 2:57:54Wikipedia because it's really short really quick and round
- 2:57:58stuff over there. I'm trying to hear you lose for
- 2:58:01but somebody's over to slap. That's not only which
- 2:58:04scratching. Oh, I'm sorry.
- 2:58:07I didn't know it was a pet. Yeah.
- 2:58:09Sorry about that. That's kalishi scratching at her
- 2:58:13collar. He you can see this part.
- 2:58:17They recognized God who created them and served them in fear and
- 2:58:22slavery. This is the actual language
- 2:58:24right here fear in slavery. I was reading this early the
- 2:58:29actual Apocalypse of Adam earlier and he actually uses the
- 2:58:32term that we served God In Fear And slavery so yet and I wanted
- 2:58:37to show you that before there's another part here and this would
- 2:58:42be the final part. Again.
- 2:58:43This is an Abridged really quick rundown of the whole thing.
- 2:58:47But the text also concludes with the second ending of Revelations
- 2:58:53that was talking about people who would not all the power
- 2:58:57setcla or galveth God and have knowledge of Truth and be
- 2:59:03blessed to live forever. These people would be covered.
- 2:59:07They would fight against the power and be covered in the
- 2:59:11cloud of Darkness. The Texan criticizes those who
- 2:59:16follow the power and defiled the Water of Life saying that their
- 2:59:21works are not of Truth. The people who follow the truth
- 2:59:25will be known up to the great Eternal Realms and their words
- 2:59:30will be called the words of incorruptible. truth In some of
- 2:59:36the references they actually use the term undefiled truth, which
- 2:59:40is very similar to The Satanic terms undefiled wisdom that we
- 2:59:44were pointing out earlier in the satanics statements.
- 2:59:51The holy baptism is described as being the Eternal of the Eternal
- 2:59:55knowledge through those born of the word and the imperishable
- 2:59:59illuminators. Who came from the holy seed
- 3:00:03yesus my I can't even pronounce that.
- 3:00:09So I wanted to show that and also Darth you I want wanted to
- 3:00:14show you you are correct about the Book of Job.
- 3:00:19He implicitly curses the Creator who gave me he cursed God by
- 3:00:23cursing his birth, which still mean talking about Job.
- 3:00:27Yeah so into so he's so indirectly curses is God by
- 3:00:31doing so and so allow Satan to win in this instance.
- 3:00:35Yeah, so when somebody commit suicide I think they might be
- 3:00:39implicitly doing the same thing spiritually speaking.
- 3:00:43Yes, we got a new guest Sam Keen not like my name Keem.
- 3:00:49Are we doing? Trust me more?
- 3:00:52Yes there Brett. Do we trust any more guests?
- 3:00:55Well, we're not gonna trust any new guest room.
- 3:00:58Well, let's we're able to talk to him atheists can't last
- 3:01:01beyond 15 minutes with that doing something filthy.
- 3:01:04So if he makes it past 15 minutes and we'll put them on
- 3:01:08the camera. What's up, Sam?
- 3:01:10Tell us a little bit about yourself make you fascinating.
- 3:01:12Hey, um, I'm actually a a Christian.
- 3:01:18That had become an atheist for a few years and now I'm back to
- 3:01:21Christianity. Well, congratulations on that.
- 3:01:27What was the spark that brought you back?
- 3:01:30Um, it was really my mother passing away.
- 3:01:35I'll make you fall away. Um, I was back in my early 20s.
- 3:01:41And college and really just going to college just screwed me
- 3:01:47up and really messed up. My religious perspective College
- 3:01:52will definitely do that that I mean, was it the teachings it
- 3:01:58was a life. I think was more the life.
- 3:02:01A lot of my friends are friends. I met there were definitely
- 3:02:05atheists. And then it just kept going from
- 3:02:09there. I don't think I had any
- 3:02:11Christian friends in college. There's many Christians and
- 3:02:15culture begin with. Thank you.
- 3:02:19Good seeing you. Sarah says great show tonight.
- 3:02:22I'll tell you what's there. You know, what would add some
- 3:02:24strawberries and icing on top if you came in and joined this?
- 3:02:28Oh most definitely I've been speaking off and on Sarah for a
- 3:02:32few years now. She is a member of the satanic
- 3:02:34International Network and she is a total sweet heart.
- 3:02:39So Sam, what was it that I ended up bringing you back?
- 3:02:43You say that you went to college people were rough aren't yet?
- 3:02:47Just made your brain. Go all over the place.
- 3:02:48What got you back into the fall? Well, like I said my my mother
- 3:02:54passed away two years ago and She was never religious but she
- 3:02:59got very religious at the end. And I just kind of fall through
- 3:03:05with her. I just remember now Sam.
- 3:03:12I appreciate you coming in and all that if you'd like to
- 3:03:14participate in any conversation, we have you're more than
- 3:03:17welcome. Okay?
- 3:03:18Perfect. Thank you.
- 3:03:21All right. Yeah, so Mr. Lucifer as well as
- 3:03:26Darth, I was one to ask you guys you guys know, what a compatible
- 3:03:29because that's what I am. Can you repeat that a
- 3:03:34compatibleist? He never heard of it.
- 3:03:37It's not like. Go ahead.
- 3:03:41Oh from one from my knowledge. Is that some sort of like The
- 3:03:45theistic evolutionists I could be wrong.
- 3:03:47No, I don't believe we came from monkeys and stuff, but I don't
- 3:03:51hold it against you. If you do the what it means is
- 3:03:56that I believe in a form of predetermination, but I also
- 3:03:59believe that there's enough parameters for a form of free
- 3:04:03will. Oh, okay.
- 3:04:04Calvin is compatibleism. Well Calvinists can't be
- 3:04:09compatible because they believe that you're elected and that
- 3:04:12everything's predetermined. So they don't see any point of
- 3:04:15even trying to do anything or put effort to them.
- 3:04:18Their theistic views, very nihilistic almost atheistic in a
- 3:04:23way. Yeah would agree some degree.
- 3:04:25I think Calvinists are pantheists in Disguise because
- 3:04:29they both believe it everything is predetermined.
- 3:04:31And that's essentially, you know, I have a solution.
- 3:04:34I have a cure for atheism. I'm pretty sure I have quite the
- 3:04:39cure to turn an atheist religious almost water.
- 3:04:44No, no, no. No, you take them.
- 3:04:48All right, you pull down the drawers and you put there well
- 3:04:50something on the table, then you take a cattle prod and you put
- 3:04:54it on either side. About something on table and you
- 3:04:58light it up. And then they're gonna scream
- 3:05:01out the Jesus. Am I right?
- 3:05:02Yeah, well Yeah, I would. But to be fair you could
- 3:05:11probably make them, you know a pantheism atheist that way too.
- 3:05:15I'm gonna ask a question here. It's gonna come off weird, but
- 3:05:18it's serious anytime you've ever heard of people making love or
- 3:05:23having joy in their life or at the epitome of Happiness.
- 3:05:26People always say, oh Jesus, but I've never heard anybody say oh
- 3:05:30Zeus. Oh Hercules nor have I heard?
- 3:05:34Oh, yeah, Satan, you know, why do you think that is?
- 3:05:37Why is it always Jesus? Oh, I hear Praise Satan all the
- 3:05:41time. Well, that's because I mean
- 3:05:44people people that one of the main reasons people believe in
- 3:05:48Jesus Christ is because they have a personal and spiritual
- 3:05:52relationship with him. There are many cases where
- 3:05:55people just have a relationship and they just know him in social
- 3:05:59way that it's okay explain it really but it's a spiritual
- 3:06:02connection. Okay.
- 3:06:04I think you're offering a completely different.
- 3:06:06Yeah. I'm saying that yo In anal Zeus
- 3:06:11or Allah. I mean all those those guys from
- 3:06:14from the past. You never heard of these guys
- 3:06:16ever ever. Actually, you don't having a
- 3:06:19personal connection with people, you know, that's never been it
- 3:06:23you do with our you just mentioned.
- 3:06:25Oh, no, I was gonna say that I I didn't want to you know bash out
- 3:06:30of and I was gonna say they he doesn't he doesn't say, you
- 3:06:32know, none of these Gods save in the way Jesus Christ has say
- 3:06:36people and how people have given testimonies on how He has saved
- 3:06:40them and enough. Here's the thing here I'm
- 3:06:44saying. Zeus has no more Cults Satan you
- 3:06:48do hear stories about Satan helping people out.
- 3:06:51I got numerous Satan satanists in the comments section right
- 3:06:55now. And it'll tell you their stories
- 3:06:58on how Satanism helped them out. I got numerous satanists in the
- 3:07:02comments that will tell you on how they believe Satan really
- 3:07:05turned their lives around. I used to be a wicked I could
- 3:07:09bring up many wiccans who will say the same thing about their
- 3:07:13chosen deity their own god or goddess.
- 3:07:16So, yes, you do hear this from many different people.
- 3:07:19And of course Bonnie, you would say that doesn't hurt all that
- 3:07:23bad. You're freaking Mascus.
- 3:07:25Of course you would you wouldn't think Capital problem with her
- 3:07:28that bad cattle product on the balls would hurt folks.
- 3:07:32I'm not gonna try it. But I hear it sucks.
- 3:07:35But my point is loose. My point is is even even in
- 3:07:40negative or deals. I don't know if you ever watch
- 3:07:42road rage videos my wife loves them.
- 3:07:45Oh, yeah, it doesn't matter if they're atheist or whatever.
- 3:07:50Their theology is if they're about to run into somebody
- 3:07:53they'll say oh Jesus Christ would you learn?
- 3:07:56Drive, you know nobody ever says Zeus.
- 3:07:59Where did he learn how to drive? Do you get what I'm saying?
- 3:08:01It's always. Oh I always call them.
- 3:08:03Yeah monkey rapist. Yeah.
- 3:08:05Yeah. I mean that's hot that's society
- 3:08:09people. It's like, you know, yeah, just
- 3:08:11some people pick up I would think in most cases.
- 3:08:15But I would assume like in places like the Saudi Arabia.
- 3:08:18They have a turn of phrase. It kind of references a law in
- 3:08:22those same way. If you go to India, they
- 3:08:24probably have you gotta be careful in Saudi Arabia though
- 3:08:27because if you if you take the Law's name out of you know, they
- 3:08:31actually have police that make sure you're not breaking
- 3:08:34religious law there and well, you can't even play music in
- 3:08:39public. I bet it's law for for the many
- 3:08:42it's love for the not for me kind of situation in which the
- 3:08:45monarchy just pretends to, you know, actually hold the laws
- 3:08:49when they they just using Allah as a footstool to justify their
- 3:08:53position in the throne. Because like I would be down
- 3:08:56with Divine command if everybody was actually upheld to it.
- 3:09:01Let's say you couldn't use a God's word in vain.
- 3:09:05Let's put a camera on everybody's home.
- 3:09:07Let's see at the end of the day who is still standing?
- 3:09:10Probably not right? No and like I said before I've
- 3:09:15seen I've seen a stoning I've seen two women Stone less than
- 3:09:18five feet away from me as a kid. It's not pretty Thing.
- 3:09:23Well, it's harsh. I know I'm blessed.
- 3:09:28So that should even be a thing. You know, that's crazy and they
- 3:09:32were being stoned to death by their own family and the stone
- 3:09:35people were either having an affair or being raped.
- 3:09:39I don't think that stoning your own daughter because she was
- 3:09:43raped by a dude. All right, the Muslims actually
- 3:09:46have this rule that yet. They have like three or four
- 3:09:50Witnesses before you make an accusation or an adult.
- 3:09:54Yeah or nonsense. Oh really good standing, right
- 3:10:00and if you get a few guys who end up basically dragging you
- 3:10:03off behind a barn or something doing that.
- 3:10:05Obviously, they're gonna make sure there's no Witnesses.
- 3:10:09Where did you see the the stoning of the two women?
- 3:10:14We were me and my nanny because I actually had an Annie back
- 3:10:17then but we were in the marketplace.
- 3:10:19This was in Abu Dhabi maybe Dubai something like that.
- 3:10:22I can't remember the exact city. So we were in the marketplace
- 3:10:26and we heard a commotion down one of the side alleys it was an
- 3:10:30Open Air Market. So we kind of went down.
- 3:10:32I don't know why we went down. That's just the way my nanny
- 3:10:36took me and There was two women on the ground.
- 3:10:41I mean one was literally had her hands over her head.
- 3:10:44She was on the ground they were wailing and just a bunch of
- 3:10:47people throwing rocks at her. And you could hear the bones
- 3:10:52breaking and literally you could hear the snap up her ribs as
- 3:10:56rocks would hit her in the ribs. She would go to like kind of
- 3:11:00protect her ribs take her hand away and rock would hit her in
- 3:11:03the head you'd see that and it you don't you don't want to see
- 3:11:08that you don't want me to go into details of it.
- 3:11:10It was already right even though I didn't even know people still
- 3:11:13do that shit. What the hell?
- 3:11:15Oh, yeah in the Middle East still to this day.
- 3:11:21I want it how much of affect of a deterrent that actually is
- 3:11:24though. He I don't know.
- 3:11:30I mean literally I would walk underneath severed heads on
- 3:11:35street signs and intestines hanging.
- 3:11:38They literally mounted them up as warnings.
- 3:11:40Yeah, and it's not even a joke. They would have hands staple to
- 3:11:46some of these open air stalls from people who would try to
- 3:11:49kid, you know steal. How much are you just visiting
- 3:11:52there? No, I lived there.
- 3:11:54Oh, yeah if this is Heaven's Kingdom eyes is any different
- 3:11:58than hell? That's Islam for you.
- 3:12:03Yeah, there's a lot of that goes on in an area called Bangladesh.
- 3:12:07Did you hear about what happened a while back with bloggers?
- 3:12:11No, what happened? Well, what happened was it was
- 3:12:14probably in the first couple years where atheists started to
- 3:12:18rise on the internet and make videos and blogs and all this.
- 3:12:21Well, some of them were from Bangladesh and the Muslims ended
- 3:12:25up finding out where they were at.
- 3:12:26So as soon as this happened they were warned.
- 3:12:30They were told if you speak out against or draw pictures of our
- 3:12:33Our God concept or anything and do with our beliefs will come
- 3:12:37get you well the atheist you know, how well they are
- 3:12:40listening and taking warnings, right?
- 3:12:42They kept on doing their thing. They drew a picture of Allah
- 3:12:45with Obama on his head. I don't know if you ever seen
- 3:12:48that mean before like the ball mom, you know, you like the
- 3:12:52fuse. Well, the Muslims basically went
- 3:12:54to the street kicked indoors and dragged these folks out.
- 3:12:57They didn't get stoned to death or beat up what they got was
- 3:13:01what you call him machete party. Now where they basically just
- 3:13:06sliced them up slice and dice them.
- 3:13:10Yeah, I've seen something like that similar.
- 3:13:15Um where I was living at we had a square marketplace now, I
- 3:13:20didn't see the executions that went on there directly, but I
- 3:13:24was there like just before just after him.
- 3:13:28They they walk these people out. And you'd suddenly see.
- 3:13:32You know a high ranking, you know Muslim with a sword
- 3:13:37literally a scimitar. And they'll put one person down
- 3:13:41on their knees and they'll hack their head off.
- 3:13:43They won't be nice about it. I'll take like two three hacks.
- 3:13:47I did it off. It's not like the European
- 3:13:49cultures that private itself on one stroke get it done.
- 3:13:52No matter right and that's a lot of Christians always ask too
- 3:13:57even nowadays. They say why is it that the
- 3:14:00atheists only seem to focus on Christianity and not the other
- 3:14:03religions and usually their theory is because Christianity
- 3:14:05is true. So they're not gonna go after
- 3:14:08the line religions. Now, there's a little bit more
- 3:14:10to it than that. Once you have seen countless
- 3:14:13atheist taken out with machetes or stone to death and all that.
- 3:14:16It just got to the point where they said, you know, what will
- 3:14:19only pick on the peaceful religions it won't give us any
- 3:14:22shit. Yeah, that's that's about the
- 3:14:28sum of it. That's definitely about some of
- 3:14:30it gotta give to the Muslims that at least they're really
- 3:14:33devout. Well, they invaded Satanism.
- 3:14:36I mean, we got atheist all throughout trying to clean that
- 3:14:39their satanists and they're not they don't even act like it.
- 3:14:43They don't they don't even you know, adhere to the very tenants
- 3:14:47of Satanism. I mean, I got an entire chapter
- 3:14:49in my book that talks about all these different satanic
- 3:14:53organizations and their different tenants and none of
- 3:14:55these atheists adhere to any of them.
- 3:15:00You know, there's a lot there's a lot of that, you know
- 3:15:02religious being invaded by about people that have no real beliefs
- 3:15:07signal in those. I mean Christian has been
- 3:15:10invaded. Oh, yeah by the same people who
- 3:15:13are currently invading Satanism right now.
- 3:15:15This this wave Antonio wrote about it in the Satanic Bible.
- 3:15:19I mean he there's a literally I I believe I showed yeah, I did
- 3:15:24show it before. Um, That there's a section in
- 3:15:28wanted God dead or alive right near the end of the chapter is
- 3:15:32the two times Anton Will Wait mentions Atheism in the Satanic
- 3:15:37Bible, and he's talking about something called Christian
- 3:15:40atheists. And this was a thing back in the
- 3:15:431960s. Yeah Lucifer.
- 3:15:46I had a question. Go ahead on do you think that
- 3:15:51satanists and Christians? Could just peacefully coexist is
- 3:15:57in my personal experience. They really can't.
- 3:16:01I would say not in the same Nation I'd say.
- 3:16:05Yeah, by the way, who's who's just asking that that was Mr.
- 3:16:10Sam King? Okay.
- 3:16:13Um Sam, I would I honestly have to say that.
- 3:16:17Yes, they could but they first have to get past their own egos,
- 3:16:21but on both sides you take a look at Brett and I'm and some
- 3:16:25of the interactions that I have with Christians on Brett's show
- 3:16:28and whatnot and we get along great.
- 3:16:31And the reason being is that we set aside our own ego.
- 3:16:35We don't attack each other. We certainly could I mean I
- 3:16:38guarantee you, you know, somebody like Kent Hoven and I
- 3:16:42could go round around the bush just attacking each other and
- 3:16:44running each other into the ground one up being each other
- 3:16:47and all this other stuff. But where would that get us?
- 3:16:50It's if you set that aside, you know and you don't go doing then
- 3:16:55just treat people like normal people.
- 3:16:57Yeah, you could get along with them and many of us satanists do
- 3:17:01have plenty of Christian family members and friends in our lives
- 3:17:05that we deal with on a daily basis co-workers and many of
- 3:17:11them know exactly what we're about and we get along just fine
- 3:17:14with them. It's just the individuals that
- 3:17:17like to try to poke and attack like how Brett or Kent started
- 3:17:23to when he first came on with me.
- 3:17:26Um trying to provoke, you know, that's sort of problems come in.
- 3:17:30But if you don't give into that, yeah, you can get along just
- 3:17:33fine and see because I've I've met a few Satan or people who
- 3:17:37call themselves satanists in real life.
- 3:17:39And they they really have never been two peaceful with me.
- 3:17:43I try to be civil, you know, just just want to have a nice
- 3:17:47conversation. I just like to know. each side
- 3:17:51better I will see that therein lies the problem most of us
- 3:17:55satanists we deal with being attacked by Christians all the
- 3:17:59time. I mean you look I mean, I know
- 3:18:01the satanic temple was not actual Satanist.
- 3:18:05Um, but take a look at what happened last year satanic
- 3:18:09temple. Somebody walked up and set their
- 3:18:10building on fire just because they believe that this person
- 3:18:14this group actually believes in a real Satan.
- 3:18:17The other year the Church of Satan had a similar incident
- 3:18:21right down the street from Peter Gilmore's house in Poughkeepsie.
- 3:18:24They lit the Halloween house on fire.
- 3:18:27I mean they burned that bitch to the ground.
- 3:18:29So, you know. in Iowa, they the state capital they had put up a
- 3:18:37statue of Baphomet in the state capital because there are
- 3:18:40Christian relics all around symbols.
- 3:18:44And eventually it was forced down because of so many
- 3:18:48Christians and just people who hate satanists trying to destroy
- 3:18:53it every day. That was the satanic temple.
- 3:18:54They're not actual satanas. No motivations were completely
- 3:18:58different. And if you if you actually saw
- 3:19:00the the statue that they put up in that whole thing.
- 3:19:04It was hideous. It was not a good representation
- 3:19:07of our belief. I've seen far better Works come
- 3:19:11out of the satanic temple. You know.
- 3:19:16It's to see what they put out now and call it, you know.
- 3:19:23Standing up for Satanism or whatnot.
- 3:19:26It's ridiculous. It actually is it's absolutely
- 3:19:30would have just yeah look, but the thing is is that there are
- 3:19:34some people in in all kinds of groups including it's I think
- 3:19:38even especially in States in this and Satanism who Target who
- 3:19:43do bad things to other people's children and family members and
- 3:19:47so Christians normally associate those people those people ways
- 3:19:51Satanism and I think that's why there's a lot of conflict
- 3:19:54between them because they always they they believe but I mean
- 3:19:59there are cases as well. So as well where they just do
- 3:20:03bad things to their kids in the Neighbors in such things.
- 3:20:05So I mean, okay, you can believe and say to him but there are
- 3:20:08actually people out there who are willing to hurt people for
- 3:20:11Satan and that's that's where that's where that's working very
- 3:20:16to be fair and stuff. It's not really a good idea to
- 3:20:19say well because this group has a couple members that does this
- 3:20:23and that because what you're gonna find is it can be thrown
- 3:20:26back at you. What about Christians you do
- 3:20:28this. What about Muslims exactly?
- 3:20:30That's all that's what we're saying earlier where oh, yeah,
- 3:20:34they're getting Did like non-stop, you know what I what I
- 3:20:38did in order to be able to get a better picture of things instead
- 3:20:41of judge in the religion based upon a couple members and Modern
- 3:20:45Age. I went to actually study and
- 3:20:47look at Anton LaVey himself the founder of all this to find out
- 3:20:51what exactly is he trying to say, what is he teaching and one
- 3:20:56of the things that got me right away is he said don't be hostile
- 3:20:59to anybody unless they do it to you.
- 3:21:00And if your path that you're on is making you happy then go with
- 3:21:04it. He was kind of spoke some
- 3:21:07universalism philosophy there, so I didn't find any
- 3:21:10disagreement. What about you loser?
- 3:21:14Now you're exactly right. I mean Anton LaVey was pretty
- 3:21:18much he believed any preached as part of his.
- 3:21:22Uh, I believe it's called pentagonal revisionism that we
- 3:21:28should all have the ability to live in our own will isolated
- 3:21:32world if we so shoes that we keep only those people who
- 3:21:36enrich our lives around us and do away with once you do not.
- 3:21:41Um antonovie was very quite the character to say, please I mean
- 3:21:45he kept a pet lion and he got along better with the mannequins
- 3:21:50in his basement than he did with most other people.
- 3:21:54He can't say a really blame him on that.
- 3:21:56Hey a lot of people talk about. Anton avee but who are other
- 3:22:02prominent figures like him because Satanism existed long
- 3:22:06before he opened up his church. But are there any figures that
- 3:22:10you can mention that I had some kind of big influence why I
- 3:22:15wanted the answer question before?
- 3:22:17Oh sorry not current. That is an interesting question.
- 3:22:20I I do believe I do believe that satanistan Christians can get
- 3:22:25along but it depends on the the group of satanists and also
- 3:22:29depends on the group of Christians out there.
- 3:22:31I really think that I think that as long as you realize that
- 3:22:35theistic satanists have a different representation idea,
- 3:22:39but you treat them respectful than their code says be peaceful
- 3:22:42unless pushed. So yeah, I think you can all
- 3:22:47right. Well other now are you you know,
- 3:22:51are you talking about pre-anton the way satanists or post
- 3:22:55antonym? free Certainly.
- 3:22:59Well, there's really nobody publicly and pre-anton the way
- 3:23:05you had a Herbert Sloan who was a minor Satanist on the before
- 3:23:10just before Anton Lee. They actually lived at the same
- 3:23:13time frame, but he was very little known he was more elusive
- 3:23:18area than he was an actual Satanist and he ran the hour
- 3:23:23lady of Endor coming. But aside from that I would say
- 3:23:28you would have Proto Satanist people who sort of helped build
- 3:23:33upon the philosophies that and on the way, holy founded in the
- 3:23:38Satanic Bible and the way that we look at it is before Anton
- 3:23:43LaVey was the black pope. There was two other black popes
- 3:23:46of the 20th century though. They never took the name.
- 3:23:48The first one was Alistair Crowley no real explanation
- 3:23:53needed there. After Aleister Crowley died.
- 3:23:56This is this is the interesting thing and I actually talk about
- 3:23:59this in my book. After Alistair Crowley died
- 3:24:02within one to two years Dr. Gerald Gardner for Wicca came
- 3:24:07into Power. I mean, he actually became a
- 3:24:09name at that point and he represented the occult field for
- 3:24:15many years. He passed away within one to two
- 3:24:19years after he passed away. Anton LaVey came into power and
- 3:24:24he represented the occult and Satanism for the rest of the
- 3:24:3020th century until he died in 1997.
- 3:24:34What we believe is after he passed away the torch passed on
- 3:24:38to Michael Aquino though. He was never publicly
- 3:24:40acknowledged on a widespread thing on a widespread field like
- 3:24:44his predecessors were and the reason being was you had such a
- 3:24:48rich field of so many different occultists out.
- 3:24:51There is that it was very difficult to pinpoint one person
- 3:24:56or another on who was actually best representing the occult
- 3:25:02field or cultism in general who was the new black pope and So
- 3:25:08were there previous people? Yes, there were and there were
- 3:25:13some big names before you had like I said Gerald Gardner you
- 3:25:17have Aleister Crowley, you had even Herbert Sloan.
- 3:25:22He's one of lesser-known names, but he was still definitely in
- 3:25:27there. All right.
- 3:25:27Well, okay, but Alistair Crowley, I mean, what's the
- 3:25:33difference between luciferians and and say it's in this because
- 3:25:37what he was doing was supposedly mutilating children and doing
- 3:25:42all kinds of really bad things to other people.
- 3:25:44I know he wasn't the Lima. So he was doing he was more
- 3:25:50interested in getting his WIC wet and getting high on drugs.
- 3:25:52Then he was in doing anything with kids or hurting so he was a
- 3:25:57seasonist and they're not. Oh he wasn't he wasn't either.
- 3:26:00He was a film on Ike. Okay, he was he's what we call
- 3:26:05protocentness which means he had satanic elements within his
- 3:26:11practices but wasn't a Satanist himself the same goes with Dr.
- 3:26:16Joe Garner who was wicked. He was the father Wicca.
- 3:26:19He's what we would call a Proto Satanist and the only reason why
- 3:26:24he's called that is because there are satanic elements
- 3:26:29within what he was teaching but he was not a Satanism.
- 3:26:33So more was his philosophy satanic.
- 3:26:35Not at all. I was a wicked before I was
- 3:26:38satanistan voucher, you know, you look at the two philosophies
- 3:26:41and they're completely different.
- 3:26:44But the fact of the matter is Dr. Joe Gardner and Aleister
- 3:26:49Conley both of these men influenced Anton LaVey who was
- 3:26:55the first, you know public Satanist.
- 3:26:57He was the one who stepped forward and put it all together.
- 3:27:03And you know what? I would I would I think him
- 3:27:07doing that also made States in this be on.
- 3:27:11Have more moral standards of society as well.
- 3:27:14Like I don't know it became it seems to have had become more of
- 3:27:21a thing that can like just just as it has, you know, it became
- 3:27:26an actual religion you were morals and things that other
- 3:27:33people can I also identify and also respect them and that would
- 3:27:38a lot that also allow them to respect them as people, you
- 3:27:42know, and that's that's the big thing that most people forget.
- 3:27:46What is a religion just in general.
- 3:27:49I mean a religious how many people know what religion
- 3:27:53actually is It's politics. It's your own political
- 3:27:58standard. It is the oldest form of
- 3:28:01politics. It's Tribal politics.
- 3:28:03When you go all the way back to the beginning and what is
- 3:28:06politics is supposed to do it's supposed to help guide a culture
- 3:28:11in a certain path a moral path path.
- 3:28:14Now, it's not moral to the rest of the world.
- 3:28:16It's morals what that culture is.
- 3:28:19So we look go back to Saudi Arabia there thinking that it's
- 3:28:23okay to Stone women to death that morally that's correct for
- 3:28:26them for us. It's but like you said Anton
- 3:28:32LaVey was able to take a concept and idea that had been going on
- 3:28:36since the 1300s. And handed down through
- 3:28:40generations through small little cultivationistic theories.
- 3:28:46And then coalesce that into one solid religion and allow it to
- 3:28:51start moving forward with a code of conduct with a moral standard
- 3:28:56with an Outlook and a philosophy and that's what differentiates
- 3:29:01Satanism from atheism atheists. Do not have any of that.
- 3:29:07Technically you look at it and Atheism, you know, I know they
- 3:29:10tried to say, you know, some of them say that they're a religion
- 3:29:13now, they certainly of you know, enjoy some of the same
- 3:29:16protections as religions, but they're not a religion because
- 3:29:19why because they help they lack Faith most of these religions
- 3:29:24have some sort of faith and their entire moral standard is
- 3:29:27built and centered around that. Hey am I correct?
- 3:29:33Am I correct guys? Yeah.
- 3:29:35Yeah. You know, so without that lack
- 3:29:40with that lack of faith. They have no way to really
- 3:29:44effectively build up that moral compass 10 years ago.
- 3:29:47I would have argued against this mind you I would have been like,
- 3:29:51yes, absolutely an atheist can have a moral compass.
- 3:29:56But we just saw tonight two of them came on pulling the exact
- 3:30:00same childish shit. We look in the news we look at
- 3:30:04we look at everything that atheists seem to be turning to
- 3:30:07nowadays. Now.
- 3:30:09I know we have speed Romans in the comments section who you
- 3:30:14know is he claims to be an atheist and he's never done
- 3:30:19anything untowards that I have ever seen.
- 3:30:21I'm not saying all atheists are gonna be like this but the vast
- 3:30:25majority of them. What how do we see them Act?
- 3:30:29They don't have any moral compass.
- 3:30:31We you know, one of the popular atheist figures that we always
- 3:30:35bring up is Jeffrey Dahmer. We bring him up all the time on
- 3:30:39the show. Right what Jeffries have to say?
- 3:30:44Eating people is okay. I don't think that's present
- 3:30:49right now. nothing But yeah, you're exactly right.
- 3:30:56He Jeffrey Dahmer had a whole philosophy where he said that
- 3:31:00without religion without faith. What's the whole point?
- 3:31:05There's nothing there to be more exactly.
- 3:31:09That's that's really the bottom line.
- 3:31:10I guess in that argument. I mean so eighty-isms atheism
- 3:31:14is, you know people who are the atheists turn to do things like
- 3:31:19that more because on they just have no self worth and that
- 3:31:25would have probably also be because they believe in
- 3:31:28evolution which makes people feel like they have no self
- 3:31:32worth, you know, I mean people feel I believe in evolution.
- 3:31:35No. No, I'm saying that that um
- 3:31:39people who believe in God Almighty or Creator they tends
- 3:31:43to have a greater self worth than people who don't and and so
- 3:31:47you're less likely to do all kinds of crazy shit.
- 3:31:50You know what I mean it so let me ask you I mean the Muslims
- 3:31:55will be living God into and they're doing all sorts of
- 3:31:57crazy. Yeah, that's because their
- 3:31:59Doctrine and and how they are raised.
- 3:32:02You know, it's just So you correct and it's it's still done
- 3:32:10Showtime. I'm sorry.
- 3:32:12I've been pronouncing it to Nordic way.
- 3:32:14Sorry. I've been calling you Odin you.
- 3:32:19Yeah, Joe. Who would you rather hang out
- 3:32:21with more? Would you rather hang out with a
- 3:32:24Muslim a Satanist or an atheist? on I don't know people people,
- 3:32:36you know people could be of you know, either category either
- 3:32:40group of people, right? But also be good people and also
- 3:32:44unique people so you can't really say I can't really say
- 3:32:47because everybody's unique bro, you know.
- 3:32:49Oh, I know I do I I have actually I used to play world
- 3:32:54Warcraft a bunch of Muslims. They cheated me out of some gold
- 3:32:57but we we did all right. Okay, today isn't gold.
- 3:33:04So dark, you'd rather hang out with I'm awesome.
- 3:33:08I mean Satanist or an atheist, who would you rather hang out
- 3:33:12with? that was it kind of depends if
- 3:33:14the Muslim is Andy Tate, I would hang out with the Muslim if the
- 3:33:18Satan is is someone like like you hang out with you if if the
- 3:33:23atheist is somebody like let's say the fellow in the chat. poly
- 3:33:29them Well, yeah, I will say most of them not I think about it a
- 3:33:35little more I would say Muslim. Now say Darth really quickly,
- 3:33:41you'd have a better knowledge of this because you were on the
- 3:33:44live stream with us on my channel the other last week Jake
- 3:33:49Laskey. Could he in Productions?
- 3:33:51You you heard his backstory his history.
- 3:33:53Yes. Would you want to hang out with
- 3:33:56him? Actually, yeah, because I think
- 3:33:59he's changed. Yeah.
- 3:34:03I will tell you he has a tattoo going along his jaw that says
- 3:34:06white power. That doesn't bother me.
- 3:34:11Oh, okay. That's not.
- 3:34:13His philosophy anymore. It's really interesting.
- 3:34:15I mean he's you know. Still definitely the philosophy
- 3:34:19of national socialism, but he doesn't have any hate in them.
- 3:34:21Yes a man and he is one of the nicest guys, you know.
- 3:34:27You ever seen that the jpeg that name of like the comparison
- 3:34:32skinhead versus an actual National Socialist like they
- 3:34:35depict the National Socialist as a gentleman as Hitler Envision a
- 3:34:40gentleman, like like power is always been the consummate
- 3:34:45gently. There's a saying if saying does
- 3:34:49show up he'll show up as an English gentleman.
- 3:34:52He's not gonna come in rags. I'll take a look at all the
- 3:34:56means of how Satan shows up. He's always in a Dapper suit,
- 3:35:00you know, he's got his horns and nice walking cane he's up on the
- 3:35:04cigar. I mean that does seem to
- 3:35:07convince a lot of Knuckleheads like the atheists they do fall
- 3:35:11for the English X the English accent and therefore must be
- 3:35:14sophisticated. Mmm.
- 3:35:18Yep, definitely, right? What are you thinking about your
- 3:35:22quiet? Well, I was you would ask the
- 3:35:27question. Who would I want to be with it?
- 3:35:29It's either gonna be religious person Satanist or Muslim and
- 3:35:33all that. Like I say, he's played world
- 3:35:35Warcraft Muslims besides the gold steel and got along just
- 3:35:39fine. Atheists have always had bad
- 3:35:41experiences. So here's my question to you
- 3:35:44Brad. What are the Muslim had like a
- 3:35:46bulky a burka or whatever on is all about both in the they were
- 3:35:51looking all Shifty. I The Satanist he had this
- 3:35:54dagger in a chalice and he's looking all shifty-eyed and the
- 3:35:59atheist. He's rubbing his hands.
- 3:36:02Well, are you talking about in social media are actually out in
- 3:36:06public hanging out. Like if you're in the same room
- 3:36:08with all these guys. Well, I'd probably be nervous of
- 3:36:13all of them. You never know.
- 3:36:14Somebody's gonna go full on retard.
- 3:36:16You know what I mean? So here's here's what would
- 3:36:20happen in that scene. The atheists are dropped his
- 3:36:22pants flash everybody using that describe distraction.
- 3:36:27The Satanist is gonna stab the muzzle and then he's gonna rip
- 3:36:30it off showing that the Muslim has a suicide restaurant.
- 3:36:34Oh, okay. We're all fucked.
- 3:36:41Well to be fair to be fair on the atheist.
- 3:36:45That was one dude that did it twice twice.
- 3:36:49They yeah, that's a common occurrence with all of us here
- 3:36:53and they they come on all the time.
- 3:36:55Yeah, you know shouting and bombs and everything else and
- 3:37:00I'm saying, you know, I was expecting the last God to do the
- 3:37:04same. I was waiting for him to do it.
- 3:37:06I was like, I just give it time. Yeah.
- 3:37:10I mean everybody's an individual though and unique so they could
- 3:37:13just be confused and just not having a good day.
- 3:37:16But these individuals are all bad.
- 3:37:19Yeah, but these individuals share comment belief of
- 3:37:22stupidities. So yeah.
- 3:37:24Well there was that one dude on the one live stream that we did.
- 3:37:29He was an atheist you acid for a long.
- 3:37:32I mean he actually breath you have to admit that that one guy
- 3:37:36he actually lasted almost half an hour.
- 3:37:39Who? Oh, it goes like two three live
- 3:37:43streams ago. Those two three live streams
- 3:37:49goes on my channel. I believe I can't remember and
- 3:37:51then he said the end where I think Well, yeah, I mean he just
- 3:37:55started going all stupid on things.
- 3:38:00Yeah, they usually don't last beyond 15 minutes.
- 3:38:02They can't do this guy. I mean, he was actually holding
- 3:38:05the conversation but then when he saw his conversation wasn't
- 3:38:08going anywhere. He started getting, you know,
- 3:38:10just being stupid. I mean, oh I know who you're
- 3:38:15talking about. Yeah, that that guy actually has
- 3:38:18made quite a few ignorant ass hateful videos so he came in
- 3:38:22there to troll. He's made videos on you.
- 3:38:26Yeah, the guy made videos. Oh talk about no life Jesus.
- 3:38:31You know, you gotta tell me about these people if we're
- 3:38:34bringing them in give me a warning so I know who not to
- 3:38:37bring in why I've seen people in the past come on to my show and
- 3:38:41I could recognize her face is by some of the videos that they've
- 3:38:45made towards me, but you got to understand I tried giving people
- 3:38:48a chance to figure maybe if we have a decent conversational
- 3:38:52stop your behavior, it never works.
- 3:38:54So I need to just get into the mode of just saying oh, hey fuck
- 3:38:59face up by and be over it's like that.
- 3:39:03And that's just how it should be.
- 3:39:09I early brought the topic of a compatible compatibilism there
- 3:39:16brand when you say compatible. I mean, what do you how do you
- 3:39:22define determine when God says determine which way is he
- 3:39:26determining things? Is he determining things by like
- 3:39:30I he has prescheduled and advancement or yeah, I think
- 3:39:35that some things are pretty determined and but we also have
- 3:39:38the parameters to do choice if you were to imagine like a have
- 3:39:43you ever played The Sims before? Yeah.
- 3:39:46Okay. So if you're playing The Sims
- 3:39:48and you probably realize that you it actually is a UI or a HUD
- 3:39:52is what they call it where you can actually see what the Sims
- 3:39:55are thinking before they do something and you have a moment
- 3:39:59where you're able to either take control over them or just let
- 3:40:02them do what the options call free will.
- 3:40:06So things are predetermined. There is script there is
- 3:40:09programming but the characters can go do their own thing if
- 3:40:12they want to. Okay, because what when the
- 3:40:15confidence is predetermined, they mean it more in a sense
- 3:40:21that this has already happened in the future and God is simply
- 3:40:24looking into the future. And you know, it's pretty
- 3:40:28determined but this is a very silly way of looking at creation
- 3:40:33because if you say, you know, such and such actions exist in
- 3:40:38the future. Then you make reality into a DVD
- 3:40:41film or you know. Any sort of film and it's no
- 3:40:45longer it would say in the scripts already written.
- 3:40:48The movie is already has its end and climax.
- 3:40:51I get that but we're thinking when we're thinking of this
- 3:40:55you're talking about death destiny, right?
- 3:40:58Working what you're basically talking about is human line here
- 3:41:02thinking though. We see we move forward and we
- 3:41:06have our experiences in each moment.
- 3:41:08But if you have an omniscient omnipresent God, he can
- 3:41:12literally see what would happen multi-times of he'll be able to
- 3:41:17know if he's gonna Mr. Roosters gonna go left to right or what
- 3:41:21would happen in this scenario if he did all this but still
- 3:41:24Lucifer would have the parameters to be able to make
- 3:41:27that choice. Well, this is difference between
- 3:41:30God knowing god of parameters and drawing a conclusion for
- 3:41:34that versus knowing the conclusion.
- 3:41:36So God knowing the parameters is fine compatible free will but
- 3:41:41God knowing the conclusion that is no longer compatible with
- 3:41:44free. Will there is something to think
- 3:41:46about though and I get what you're saying, but you also
- 3:41:50realize that reading the Bible it shows you and theology that
- 3:41:54God has the ability to actually turn off one of Is his traits,
- 3:42:00I'll give you an example. If Jesus Is God according to
- 3:42:03trinitarians wouldn't you have to say that God made himself
- 3:42:07vulnerable in order to be affected by a crucifixion.
- 3:42:10Actually. I heard this exact debate about
- 3:42:14two days ago on price. I am's channel in the Christian
- 3:42:17said God Jesus turned off is God ability at that moment in which
- 3:42:23effectively Mayhem Lucid debate because he said Jesus was no
- 3:42:27longer God. I I no longer stupid.
- 3:42:33I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
- 3:42:34I I know that you know, I don't mean sound ignorant, but I find
- 3:42:38that. You know for somebody to try to
- 3:42:40say that is absolutely yeah. No personally, I believe that
- 3:42:44God is Not omnipotent. I don't believe that he's
- 3:42:48anything that he's cracked up to be the Bible definitely points
- 3:42:52to the fact that he's nothing like that.
- 3:42:55I mean you look at several in the Bible.
- 3:42:58We can look at the story of Sodom and Gomorrah or God enters
- 3:43:03Abraham's camp. We look at Genesis where God
- 3:43:10lied where he and I know you guys are gonna disagree with me
- 3:43:14on this go ahead and just agree with me on it.
- 3:43:16We look at where he got aligned, but then after Adam and Eve ate
- 3:43:21the fruit God couldn't find them.
- 3:43:23You know and there's no explanation on why he couldn't
- 3:43:26find them. I know people tried to make up
- 3:43:28explanations, but there's none given in the Book of Genesis.
- 3:43:32Well, I agree with you a bed here Lucifer there.
- 3:43:36There is nowhere in the Bible where it actually says that God
- 3:43:39is all these things all these Big O's that has given to him.
- 3:43:44It's something that the Catholics and the theology.
- 3:43:46Did there are quite a few passages in the Bible.
- 3:43:50That is very confusing and I'm not really sure how to work my
- 3:43:54way through it. Like for instance that Tower of
- 3:43:57Babel incident. It says that while these men
- 3:43:59were doing this the Angels Came they came down they seen what
- 3:44:03happened and then they recorded the events and then went up to
- 3:44:07God in his Celestial Kingdom and told God, you know, what these
- 3:44:11people are doing down here and after they explained it God
- 3:44:15actually it says God left his estate and went down there but
- 3:44:20we're about that as if God's Army present.
- 3:44:22He should already Be there exactly.
- 3:44:25He doesn't need anything most to record the events.
- 3:44:28Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
- 3:44:32Exactly. And that's one of always been
- 3:44:35one of my big problems with a lot of how these eventually
- 3:44:39Christians just about what I think is happening here.
- 3:44:43Is it they're taking the actual the attributes of the true
- 3:44:46ultimate God in simply giving it to the their biblical God and
- 3:44:51this is why you see this contradictions.
- 3:44:55The Book of Job you guys have mentioned that but you guys are
- 3:44:59constantly talking about this conversation but there's
- 3:45:03something going on in that event that I never hear Christians or
- 3:45:06anybody actually bring up but who actually recorded the
- 3:45:10conversation between the devil and God there's nowhere in the
- 3:45:13Book of Job where God says, oh by the way me and Satan had a
- 3:45:17one dollar bet like Trading Places the movie he doesn't
- 3:45:20confirm that he ever actually had that conversation.
- 3:45:23So no you you're very correct that's not confirmed there.
- 3:45:27But I believe if you were to look into older documentation
- 3:45:32from Judaism the shemarash would have identified that person as
- 3:45:37Metatron who is describe God. He was also the voice of God the
- 3:45:42Scribe of God. So basically wherever God went
- 3:45:45whatever God did Metatron was documenting it Right.
- 3:45:50Yeah, and and for the Christians out there that are listening to
- 3:45:54me. I'm just being straight up.
- 3:45:55Honestly. There are some things that even
- 3:45:58atheist seemed to read over that they don't even notice about
- 3:46:02that. What queen time does God say
- 3:46:05job. I'm you know, here's what
- 3:46:07happened. I had a conversation with the
- 3:46:10devil totally out of the presence of humanity.
- 3:46:12And this is what happened. He doesn't ever tell him Here,
- 3:46:17for example, he doesn't even apologize.
- 3:46:21Yeah, for example like it says in the Bible God is not the the
- 3:46:24art of the author of Confusion And even the Muslims agree upon
- 3:46:28that but for example The Babylon and the Babylon Tower who
- 3:46:32confuses the languages. Oh God, so it's like it's a
- 3:46:37blatant contradiction there. Well, there's there's stuff in
- 3:46:41the New Testament too. And also Thessalonians where it
- 3:46:44says that these people were so far gone.
- 3:46:47According to God's perception of them that he put lying lips on
- 3:46:51them and cause them to have delusion where they wouldn't
- 3:46:54ever be able to find their way back and that's actually kind of
- 3:46:58if you think about it the form of taking away humans free will
- 3:47:01it's like sealing them like the Pharaoh.
- 3:47:03Yes, really? That's crazy.
- 3:47:08And Brett, would you mind bring up Johnny's latest comment?
- 3:47:11I got to pick on him about this Johnny Johnny.
- 3:47:15Here's Johnny. Yeah, yeah gonna say that too.
- 3:47:23You have failed me for the last time I was gonna say that I was
- 3:47:30a guy, you know to something like that.
- 3:47:32No, he's Metatron not Megatron. Oh, that's just Oh get your
- 3:47:42reference to what you told me. Yeah, this you.
- 3:47:48One shall stand one shall fall one shall stand.
- 3:47:56Oh my God, Brad. That's why my Optimus Prime
- 3:48:00impression. Yeah.
- 3:48:01Yeah Autobots roll out. No only you got it.
- 3:48:09Oh my take this out Loose ROM actually pretty good at some in
- 3:48:14person. You got it.
- 3:48:15You ready for my gay Batman impression.
- 3:48:19What is this is the Michael Keaton?
- 3:48:22Here we go. Who are you?
- 3:48:24Um, but man tell your homosexual friends about me.
- 3:48:32Hey, you know, that was good bro.
- 3:48:34Yeah. Sorry Johnny I had to rib on you
- 3:48:40about. 9 that was when you did that I was like holy. right
- 3:48:50thought it was a SoundCloud or something or soundboard.
- 3:48:53No, it's him. What's that?
- 3:48:55One thing that he says you said part of it one shot and and one
- 3:49:01shall fall. Yeah.
- 3:49:02It's it's a final fight between a prime and you know the main
- 3:49:07villain it's yeah and then in that super sweet 80s music and
- 3:49:11then there's the iconic line Autobots roll out.
- 3:49:16No. Yeah Autobots roll out.
- 3:49:19You gotta be more emphatic about it practice.
- 3:49:21But yeah, you're so damn close to optimism.
- 3:49:26I was like what? I can do a few voices myself.
- 3:49:33I do Yoda occasionally for them if they made so many
- 3:49:38Transformers movies, but they haven't adapted the the
- 3:49:41animation from the 80s into a film.
- 3:49:43I don't know why they haven't it's such a great film.
- 3:49:46Well, yeah, they're they're actually doing that with this
- 3:49:49current line of them. Look at it like watch Bumblebee.
- 3:49:54Okay. Watch Bumblebee.
- 3:49:57The movie Bumblebee right at the end bumblebee teams up.
- 3:50:00He joins emerges on to the bridge and there's Optimus in
- 3:50:05his classic 80s model. And then in this newest
- 3:50:10Transformers movie the Beast Wars ones.
- 3:50:14They are in their classic 80s mode.
- 3:50:16The only difference is bumblebees more updated to the
- 3:50:20Camaro. So what they're trying to do is
- 3:50:22they're trying to merge the classic 80s into the original.
- 3:50:29Series, but I don't know why it's not it's not gonna work out
- 3:50:33because it's yeah, I hope they get to like doing yoga earlier.
- 3:50:37Let me see if I could do this. Remember I'm half-deaf right
- 3:50:40now. I'm still waiting for the sun
- 3:50:41clog but fucked around find out did you that's like an older
- 3:50:48Yoda you Why do you go to too much?
- 3:50:54My throat goes crazy. Hey Brad does sound like an
- 3:50:57older and a wiser Yoda. There you go.
- 3:51:01Yeah, unfortunately, it's hard to do some of these
- 3:51:03impersonations with the air being like it is.
- 3:51:08I mean like but they really I'm still angry about sorry.
- 3:51:14I'm not even a Star Wars fan, but I'm angry how they killed
- 3:51:17that guys. I don't know why sorry guys.
- 3:51:22Who did they kill the Star Wars franchise?
- 3:51:25I'm not. Yeah, totally a nightly.
- 3:51:29You know, the Star Wars franchise is not dead and I'm
- 3:51:32gonna go out on record here. I'm a fan of doomcock.
- 3:51:34I watched do cock all the time. I was doing talk.
- 3:51:38Doom talk Overlord DVD go check him out.
- 3:51:41He's all over YouTube. You'll love them anyways. so
- 3:51:46Doomcock has pointed out that you know Star Wars is pretty
- 3:51:51much dead from Disney. And I can't argue with that, but
- 3:51:55Star Wars itself is not dead. most of the fans most of Star
- 3:52:00Wars up until Freaking um to see the prequel trilogy Star Wars
- 3:52:07was very much alive in the form of books novels.
- 3:52:11I got a Star Wars novel around here somewhere to show people.
- 3:52:15Yeah. No, that's okay.
- 3:52:20I don't know where it is right now.
- 3:52:21Anyways Star Wars for the longest time survived in what is
- 3:52:25now called The Legends Canon the Legends novels.
- 3:52:30So if you want good Star Wars, it's still around.
- 3:52:34Just go and do what all of us did before the prequel trilogies
- 3:52:39came along and even after the prequel trilogies and pick up a
- 3:52:43book and read a Star Wars novel. There's your Star Wars
- 3:52:47Adventure. There is your good Star Wars.
- 3:52:49You have the thrawn trilogy you had Splinter of a Mind's Eye you
- 3:52:54had the young Jedi Knight. Series you had so much going on
- 3:53:00and it was really good stuff. And it's still out there.
- 3:53:05See, that's one of the reasons why Kathleen Kennedy was so
- 3:53:08hated one of the major statements.
- 3:53:11She said that still rings in my head today as it's hard to do a
- 3:53:15Star Wars movie because we hardly have any sources.
- 3:53:19That was JJ Abrams that said that and somebody said that
- 3:53:23somebody needs their ass whipped now.
- 3:53:25I remember Kathleen. Okay now Kathleen Kenny said
- 3:53:28make it lame and gay. This is an unpublished Star Wars
- 3:53:33book that I actually bought off of Amazon.
- 3:53:35You can't get it anymore, but you can find the story online.
- 3:53:38But yeah, it was written by. Kenneth C flint, and it's called
- 3:53:45The Heart of the Jedi. I still have yet to read this.
- 3:53:49But yeah, this is classic Star Wars right here.
- 3:53:53Star Wars is not dead just Disney fucked up the Cinematic
- 3:54:00stuff and I think out of all the Cinematic stuff.
- 3:54:03The only thing that's really going to survive is the
- 3:54:06Mandalorian. That's the one thing that
- 3:54:08everybody universally agrees is good.
- 3:54:11I like it, but I don't like what they do that woman and she's
- 3:54:16gonna end up soon her ass off for that.
- 3:54:18She already is. Oh, yeah isn't like Elon Musk
- 3:54:22sampling because they it's not about winning.
- 3:54:25It's about kind of making Disney. reveal the Vault of past
- 3:54:31complaints Oh, I forget what Gina Carano that's her name Gina
- 3:54:39Carano. She's already suing them and you
- 3:54:43know Disney, I mean we look at what's happening with Disney now
- 3:54:47they're going tits up. You know why it is a lot of
- 3:54:51these type of movies. Especially Star Wars went bad is
- 3:54:54the woke agenda. It doesn't allow for a hero to
- 3:54:58be an actual hero. They always have overpowered
- 3:55:02Karens that are doing this you need to if you want to have a
- 3:55:05good hero. You have to let them get the
- 3:55:08ship beat out of that. I mean just whole Verizon and
- 3:55:11then make a comeback Rockies are perfect example Rambo shit like
- 3:55:16that. That's how you make a hero.
- 3:55:17That's why the feeling really that's why Van Damme was such a
- 3:55:21popular guy even those martial arts weren't that great because
- 3:55:24every fucking movie at the shit beat out of him and then he come
- 3:55:29back and he didn't know if he was gonna win or not that hell.
- 3:55:32Yeah. Overpower care and son is a
- 3:55:34perfect way to describe the the hero of this generation.
- 3:55:37Yeah, man. Yeah.
- 3:55:39Well, they're the Mary Sue. That's what they're called.
- 3:55:42They're called Mary Sue's Can I see your dark lord?
- 3:55:47I want to speak to your dark lord.
- 3:55:49What's your name? Captain Marvel or Miss Marvel or
- 3:55:53some shit Captain Mario would have her like during the fight
- 3:55:56with Thanos have him just fucking knock her ass all over
- 3:56:00the place and you know, the people are sitting back and you
- 3:56:03see her bleeding and bruises and all that.
- 3:56:05Then people have been like oh shit, but now Heroes Journey
- 3:56:11people love that. Really?
- 3:56:15Well, that's what made that scene in Spider-Man 2 so great
- 3:56:18right after the the fight with the train.
- 3:56:22The animator one. Yeah, no nobody.
- 3:56:27Yeah, that's what That's what they did wrong with Rey and Luke
- 3:56:34Skywalker. He should have been able to beat
- 3:56:36the shit out of her and train her up and all this not
- 3:56:39instantly have her picking Boulders up throwing them around
- 3:56:43like they're fucking cotton candy.
- 3:56:44Come on man. But she's a daughter of top five
- 3:56:48but Dean yeah, that was absolutely stupid.
- 3:56:51There should have still been some amount of training.
- 3:56:53You're the daughter of Hitler done done.
- 3:56:56Yeah, but Luke's you know the child of Anakin so he still went
- 3:57:01through some training. Look at what he did with yoga.
- 3:57:03Also Anakin's the child the Palpatine as well.
- 3:57:06Technically. No, he wasn't the child about
- 3:57:09being correction. He was Palpatine's mentors
- 3:57:12Offspring. Yeah, Darth Plagueis, Darth
- 3:57:16Plagueis did something to me Skywalker and got her pregnant
- 3:57:20without doing her she had a macula conception.
- 3:57:24What the fuck that's actually Star Wars and the difference
- 3:57:28between Luke and Ray even though they have a lot of the same
- 3:57:31story. Luke gets his hand chopped off
- 3:57:34his buddy gets Frozen and fucking ice and by a bunch of
- 3:57:37pig Carbonite exactly. So there was a lot of fucking
- 3:57:41investment there, you know. Yeah, man, I mean, that's all
- 3:57:46that's all the people the viewers feel they could they
- 3:57:50develop an emotional attachment. So the characters.
- 3:57:52Oh, she's getting fucked up it is.
- 3:57:55Yeah, you know good you make a good point Joe these movies
- 3:58:00nowadays. We are not emotionally invested
- 3:58:03in the characters and one move. I will point out once series
- 3:58:07movies that did that perfectly Steven Spielberg's Poltergeist
- 3:58:11go watch the original Poltergeist and see how much you
- 3:58:17are invested in that family then go watch remake.
- 3:58:21Yeah. There's definitely a huge.
- 3:58:23To build up and that you really care and it really freaks you
- 3:58:27out when spooky shit happens exactly.
- 3:58:29I mean in the original Poltergeist movies all three
- 3:58:34movies you are completely invested in Carolyn you are
- 3:58:37completely by the second movie. These people are your family
- 3:58:42you're wondering. Where is the older daughter in
- 3:58:45the second movie? Well, unfortunately the actress
- 3:58:47got murdered between the two movies, but the fact of the
- 3:58:50matter is you're so invested in this family.
- 3:58:52You notice and you're like wondering and yet you still
- 3:58:57remain connected right there when all the shit is going down
- 3:59:00you and they're like You know shits going down like you said.
- 3:59:07You're like, oh my God. Yes.
- 3:59:09Do you get it? He's always been Steven
- 3:59:13Spielberg's always been gonna character makeup and he makes it
- 3:59:17ugly little fucking Play-Doh alien like ET and I'm literally
- 3:59:20balling my fucking eyes out when that thing turns powdery white
- 3:59:23it's dying but a river. I mean that sucks balls.
- 3:59:27Yeah. I know the sort of the dying
- 3:59:30dog. Exactly exactly bro, like really
- 3:59:35was that what the hell I have feet.
- 3:59:39ET man, the alien little boy Elliot he died.
- 3:59:43Yeah, yeah, you think he's dead but he comes back, you know
- 3:59:50until then I mean cocoons who remembers cocoon.
- 3:59:56You're totally invested with these old folks.
- 3:59:59Yeah. You remember do you remember
- 4:00:03that feeling you got one ET stuck as fucking hand out his
- 4:00:07fingers Glory like they again and here's the thing.
- 4:00:15We're not completely absent of these types of directors.
- 4:00:19Now. Look at the show stranger things
- 4:00:22that captures the effect and element so perfectly of the
- 4:00:281980s and it's literally been called and heralded the love
- 4:00:32letter to the eighties. I love stranger things.
- 4:00:34But what's the magic sauce? Like these guys are missing and
- 4:00:38then these remakes just like they're putting the woke agenda
- 4:00:43before the story. The story is the star the actors
- 4:00:49come second and then any agendas come third.
- 4:00:55Yeah, like it's like how they want.
- 4:00:57They wanted to replace Superman. They didn't care about the
- 4:01:01story. They didn't care about any
- 4:01:03substance. They just wanted their gay black
- 4:01:06Superman. So yes, so it just woke his I'm
- 4:01:10using the story as a vehicle rather than the story being. the
- 4:01:14what is it what it's supposed to be enough.
- 4:01:18I mean exactly exactly always gotta be diversity.
- 4:01:22It's always got to be a woman and she's got a never take any
- 4:01:27kind of hits. He's got to be overpowered Karen
- 4:01:30every fucking time. Yet I will tell you right now
- 4:01:34Sigourney Weaver as Ellen Ripley. far outweighs as a
- 4:01:42heroine Captain Marvel or Madam Webb or any of these current
- 4:01:47woke female heroines. I would you know, I look at
- 4:01:51Sigourney Weaver, and she was an absolute Beauty in her day and
- 4:01:55she still an amazing looking woman even at her age. and you
- 4:02:00look at the character of Ellen Ripley. or even her character
- 4:02:04Dana Barrett in Ghostbusters And we're working anybody fault
- 4:02:11these characters. These are perfect female strong
- 4:02:15female characters who every guy loves and and I like how they
- 4:02:21amplify that motherly character by giving her a child to take
- 4:02:26care of. She has to exactly yeah,
- 4:02:29exactly. And it doesn't demote her only
- 4:02:33makes it or like oh, look, she's a more powerful for it.
- 4:02:36They don't they don't like nurturing women anymore.
- 4:02:39They want them all to be strong and independent and all that and
- 4:02:42having you know flaws and that's the issue me take Rocky.
- 4:02:46We were just talking about how to make a hero, but Adrian is
- 4:02:50one of those wives that every man wishes he had where she's
- 4:02:53out there watching. She's crying go Rocky, you know,
- 4:02:56I don't want you to get out. You know that Adrian exactly.
- 4:03:01And like you said, you know Ripley had newt. in the second
- 4:03:06movie and that just elevated the Ripley character the whole new
- 4:03:12level about asriome and suddenly this was a mom.
- 4:03:15Yeah, because you know protecting her young.
- 4:03:18Yeah, it's such like that iconic shot of her holding her and her
- 4:03:22one hand and the gun and the other.
- 4:03:24Yeah, he just kicking. I mean just lighten up the whole
- 4:03:29egg place. I mean she's wiping out aliens.
- 4:03:33She's plugging fucking Eggs with grenades and then she just
- 4:03:39lights everything up with a flamethrower.
- 4:03:41Yeah, like things we want to see that's our how about this or how
- 4:03:45about this? They're back on the Nostromo.
- 4:03:48The alien queen is trying to find Newt underneath grading and
- 4:03:52you just see the door open up. I mean you saw Ripley close the
- 4:03:55door and everything and and you think oh gosh, she's just
- 4:03:59abandoned this kid, but then the door opens back up and she's in
- 4:04:03the power loader and she literally just looks at the
- 4:04:06queen says get away from her you bitch. line Yeah.
- 4:04:15But what the badassery of Ellen Ripley just went from 10 to
- 4:04:191,000. My favorite Woman movie and
- 4:04:24stuff for the woman plays a Heroes Geena Davis and last
- 4:04:27kiss. Goodnight.
- 4:04:28I don't know if you ever seen that before I think so.
- 4:04:31Yeah. Oh man, that's hardcore.
- 4:04:34And that's one of the reasons why I knew that the woke people
- 4:04:37don't have the potential to make good movies because they said
- 4:04:40things like women have never been represented or get to be
- 4:04:44the hero and all this. I'm like you kidding me aliens
- 4:04:47and shit last kiss. Goodnight all the stuff red
- 4:04:51Sonia. Oh, yeah Barbarian love it when
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