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The DiCecco Daily: Eagles Sirianni, Entering Year Six, Provides Stability+Consistency · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome into another episode of to check Odaily.
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Speaker 1: It's Andrew de Checko, Eagles beat reporter for Insidethebirds dot Com,
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Speaker 1: and for today's podcast, we're gonna take a little bit
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Speaker 1: more of a big picture look at the Philadelphia Eagles
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Speaker 1: as they report to trending camp on July twenty eighth.
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Speaker 1: So that's fast approaching. And you may have already seen
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Speaker 1: the story that I put out on Inside the Birds
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Speaker 1: dot Com this morning, July twentieth, and that sort of
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Speaker 1: stemmed from our annual conversation with Nick Sirianni, who speaks
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Speaker 1: to Beat reporters just after mandatory mini camp. And it's
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Speaker 1: a big picture look at the team and you touch
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Speaker 1: on some of those topics and there's some kind of
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Speaker 1: interesting things there that I want to share with you all,
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Speaker 1: and it offers a little bit more perspective on the
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Speaker 1: team heading into the twenty twenty sixth season. First and foremost,
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Speaker 1: whether you realize it or not, this season marks the
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Speaker 1: longest Nick Sirianni has ever been with an organization, And
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Speaker 1: you'd have to go back to his tenure with the
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers. They were the San Diego Chargers for
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Speaker 1: part of his tenure from twenty thirteen to twenty seventeen,
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Speaker 1: where he was there for five years, handled a few
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Speaker 1: different titles. That ended up being a very critical bullet
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Speaker 1: point for his career because then that gave him enough experience,
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Speaker 1: that varied experience, to elevate into an offensive coordinator role,
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Speaker 1: and then ultimately that was able to be parlayed into
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Speaker 1: a head coaching job in Philadelphia. And Nick Sirianni is
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Speaker 1: entering his sixth season. So something that is probably an
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Speaker 1: understated challenge from those on the outside is how do
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Speaker 1: you go about keeping your messaging fresh when you're now
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Speaker 1: entering year six.
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Speaker 2: A lot of these players have been with.
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Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni from the beginning or for at least a
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Speaker 1: few seasons. And so Nick Siriani did something interesting. He
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Speaker 1: mentioned using chat GPT and he typed in great relentless
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Speaker 1: effort and he said he has to preface that like
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Speaker 1: true sports story because obviously you'll see a lot of
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Speaker 1: different examples that maybe don't fit the criteria. And he said, well,
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Speaker 1: this is an interesting story, and it was about a
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Speaker 1: wrestler from the University of from Arizona State in twenty
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Speaker 1: eleven and he won a National Championship, and Nick Sirianni
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Speaker 1: outlined he was missing a leg and as he did
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Speaker 1: the research on it, he's taken a look at it.
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Speaker 2: And decides to share it with his team.
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Speaker 1: And you're trying to keep things fresh, as he mentioned,
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Speaker 1: and so you're trying to find different stories about great
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Speaker 1: effort or a lot of the core values that he
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Speaker 1: abides by, and trying to shake things up in terms
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Speaker 1: of the messaging.
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Speaker 2: And he mentioned.
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Speaker 1: The nineteen fifty two Olympics and how hard those guys trained.
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Speaker 1: And he mentioned emil A Zudepeg and how he was
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Speaker 1: ready to run a marathon when he was fifteen or so.
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Speaker 1: And he is sort of parsing through these stories and
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Speaker 1: it gives you a different set of talking points that
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Speaker 1: maybe relate or resonate with the team. And he said
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Speaker 1: he told a story about Frank o'harris, or he mentioned
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Speaker 1: that Frank oharris had a story that Tony Dungee told him.
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Speaker 2: And he said this in the first season. But he
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Speaker 2: was always running the ball.
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Speaker 1: So what Tony Dungee said was the act in it's
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Speaker 1: self that he caught the immaculate reception may have been lucky,
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Speaker 1: but his habit of being around the football and being
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Speaker 1: there at the right place at the right time was
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Speaker 1: not lucky because that's who he was his habits, and
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Speaker 1: so he drew a parallel to Tank Bigsby in conversation
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Speaker 1: and he said, well, that's Tank Bigsby. He's constantly running
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Speaker 1: to the football. He is constantly doing everything he's supposed
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Speaker 1: to do. And I'm like, you know what, guys, And
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Speaker 1: I was able to hit back the story. I go,
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Speaker 1: some of you guys remember the Frank O'Haras story. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: this is Tank and you're able to show that now.
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Speaker 1: And something that Nick Sirianni said I thought was pretty interesting,
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Speaker 1: and he talked about all of the things that the
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Speaker 1: Eagles have accomplished during his time and that all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden they have their own moments that you can
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Speaker 1: refer back to on the internet and.
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Speaker 2: They've created that through all of their success.
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Speaker 1: And when you're a coach like Nick Siriani and you
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Speaker 1: pride yourself on delivering a pretty compelling message and trying
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Speaker 1: to find ways different ways to relate and reach your
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Speaker 1: players doing different things like that, I think really speaks
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Speaker 1: to the way that Nick Sirianni approaches the job, and
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Speaker 1: I found that to be pretty interesting, and chat Ept
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Speaker 1: proved to be an important vehicle in him being able
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Speaker 1: to find some of those stories. And so I also
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Speaker 1: go back to something that he said about the.
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Speaker 2: Heightened expectations that always hover over this Eagles team.
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Speaker 1: And rightfully so. And we're going to get to Nick
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Speaker 1: sirian and his resume in the moment. But this is
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Speaker 1: the standard that the Eagles have set for themselves. And
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Speaker 1: so while expectations are high outside the building, they're probably
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Speaker 1: I know this, they're higher inside the building.
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Speaker 2: The Eagles have.
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Speaker 1: A tremendous amount of pride. They know how they've elevated
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Speaker 1: the bar, and the standard is extremely high. And Nick
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Speaker 1: Sirianni said, and I'm going to abbreviate this because this
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Speaker 1: is a family program.
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Speaker 2: He said, f Yeah, it's high.
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Speaker 1: And I think sometimes and I've been guilty of it too,
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Speaker 1: we can be like, ugh, expectations are high. But that's
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Speaker 1: great that expectations are high. Because of that, your standards
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Speaker 1: are higher.
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Speaker 2: I like it.
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Speaker 1: And he mentioned that he doesn't think that it becomes
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Speaker 1: harder when expectations are high. He says, no, I don't
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Speaker 1: think so. Expectations have been high here for you come
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Speaker 1: off a twenty twenty.
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Speaker 2: Two season and we did what we did.
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Speaker 1: I think that that standard is what's been expected, not
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Speaker 1: only from the outside, but I think we put a
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Speaker 1: lot of pressure on ourselves to do it the way
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Speaker 1: we to do it, the way we play to a
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Speaker 1: standard there. I think it's about a mindset that you
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Speaker 1: have in the sense of like, awe, expectations are high,
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Speaker 1: or hey, freaking expectations are high, and it's going to
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Speaker 1: push us to become better because they're so high. We
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Speaker 1: have all wrestled with that, like, hey, maybe that's not
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Speaker 1: fair that expectations are high, or man, we're going to
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Speaker 1: become as good as we possibly can because the expectations
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Speaker 1: are so high. And then I look at Nick Siriani
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Speaker 1: and he's still, for some reason, a polarizing figure in
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Speaker 1: probably from a national perspective and even to a degree locally.
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Speaker 1: And I push back on that because when you look
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Speaker 1: at what Nick Sirian has accomplished since taking the Eagles
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Speaker 1: head coaching job in twenty twenty one, he's won fifty
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Speaker 1: nine of eighty five regular season games. That's a winning percentage, folks.
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Speaker 1: That puts him in the same tier as iconic coaches
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Speaker 1: such as John Madden and Vince Lombardi. He's in the
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Speaker 1: top five. Nick Sirianni actually is fifth. The Eagles have
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Speaker 1: been to the postseason for every year that he's been here.
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Speaker 1: They've split their appearances, and I think it's incredibly unfair
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Speaker 1: when I hear, well, he's just a passenger on the
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Speaker 1: on the bus, or he's a byproduct of a loaded roster,
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Speaker 1: that's not true. His impact goes far beyond the x's
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Speaker 1: and o's, and I think if you're evaluating a head
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Speaker 1: coach solely on x's and o's and determining their credibility
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Speaker 1: off of that, that's really short sighted.
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Speaker 1: Because what Nick Sirianni does is he focuses on the fundamentals.
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Speaker 1: He focuses on things that you probably lose sight of
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Speaker 1: on game day, like ball security and details. And I
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Speaker 1: think even to a larger to a larger point here,
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Speaker 1: he's also someone that has been a culture setter. He's
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Speaker 1: helped contribute to making Philadelphia a destination that players want
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Speaker 1: to be, where they want to be, and that starts
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Speaker 1: with him. It's not just coach speak. He leads from
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Speaker 1: the front. He believes tremendously in his core values and
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Speaker 1: if you think about it, every player who comes through
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Speaker 1: that door, every player who's on the field, represents that
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Speaker 1: accountability connection football IQ and that stems from Nick Sirianni.
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Speaker 1: That's something that he believes in strongly and he's able
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Speaker 1: to really implement that that messaging and I think that's
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Speaker 1: really important within the scope of the Philadelphia Eagles, and
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Speaker 1: that's something that when you talk about keeping a message fresh,
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Speaker 1: when you have those core values to lean into, you're
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Speaker 1: able to kind of build things off of that. And
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Speaker 1: then there's the authenticity piece, and that's really important for me.
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Speaker 1: An authentic person goes a long way. You can trust
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Speaker 1: and relate to them on a different level than you
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Speaker 1: maybe would someone else. Resonates in a locker room that
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Speaker 1: plays and in a front facing profession where he could
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Speaker 1: really detect phonies, Nick Sirianni is anything but a phony.
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Speaker 1: And that's for better or for worse. Yes, sometimes the
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Speaker 1: emotions get the best of them on the football field
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Speaker 1: and that could be a detriment, but.
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Speaker 2: That's his passion for the game.
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Speaker 1: And when you see him on the practice field, the fire,
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Speaker 1: the urgency that he brings each and every day that
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Speaker 1: never wavers.
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Speaker 2: He loves the game.
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Speaker 1: He calls it the ultimate team sport, and his ability
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Speaker 1: to connect with players resonates. It's not coach speak. He
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Speaker 1: is present. He is dialed in with it with his players.
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Speaker 1: But the authenticity, the the willingness and commitment to remaining
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Speaker 1: true to himself sometimes that gets, you know, picked Apart
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Speaker 1: from a national perspective and even here locally, if we're
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Speaker 1: being honest, you know, I hear sports radio and I
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Speaker 1: think it's really unfair the way that Nick Sirianni is portrayed.
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Speaker 1: Talk to a player and they will tell you all
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Speaker 1: about Nick Sirianni and speak glowingly about him and offer
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Speaker 1: up things that you.
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Speaker 2: Probably wouldn't otherwise be privy to.
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Speaker 1: I go back to what Saquon Barkley had to say
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Speaker 1: and how he didn't like Nick Sirianni when Nick was
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Speaker 1: in New York and he's this brash coach and he's
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Speaker 1: in your face and things like that. It's atypical for
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Speaker 1: a position of leadership, right, But when you're in the
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Speaker 1: building and you see his process and you know the
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Speaker 1: person and where he's coming from, it has a whole
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Speaker 1: different meaning behind it.
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Speaker 2: And for his ability to.
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Speaker 1: Get his team prepared to play each and every week,
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Speaker 1: that is not easy sometimes can wane naturally. You look
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Speaker 1: at some of the top tier teams across the NFL,
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Speaker 1: they're not nearly as consistent as the Pholadelphia Eagles have
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Speaker 1: been since the better part of the twenty twenty one season,
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Speaker 1: and that just doesn't happen by accident. The Eagles don't
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Speaker 1: win all these games by accident. Sure, they have an
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Speaker 1: incredibly talented roster. They are fully loaded, there's no disputing that.
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Speaker 1: But without leadership, without a focus and a fixation on
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Speaker 1: player development like the Eagles have done during Nick Sirianni's tenure,
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Speaker 1: without a strong set of assistant coaches, again part of
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Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni's staff, this level of success is not attainable.
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Speaker 1: And you can say what you will about him not
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Speaker 1: calling plays, him being a part of a twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: three Eagles team that had that unprecedented late season skid
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Speaker 1: and he wasn't able to really stop the bleeding. You
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Speaker 1: can look at the Patullo and the Brian Johnson hirings.
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Speaker 1: You can look at him having to relinquish play calling,
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Speaker 1: which he decided to do and giving it to Shane Steichen,
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Speaker 1: and maybe that alters your perception of him. And I'm
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Speaker 1: not going to sit here and argue the fact that
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Speaker 1: when you have a head coach who doesn't call plays.
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Speaker 1: It leads to a revolving door from a play calling perspective.
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Speaker 1: All of those things are relevant, but you can't lose
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Speaker 1: sight of the things that you can't see, things that
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Speaker 1: he's able to implement behind closed doors. He's the same
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Speaker 1: person in front of a microphone and away from a microphone,
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Speaker 1: and that should be appreciated a little bit more than
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Speaker 1: it is. And it's his constant thirst for knowledge from
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Speaker 1: getting different viewpoints, reaching out to his network of coaches
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Speaker 1: in all sports that have achieved a tremendous level of
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Speaker 1: success just to get a different perspective, going to chat
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Speaker 1: GPT in this case, to find alternate methods of finding
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Speaker 1: stories that correlate with an align with his core values.
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Speaker 1: I mean, not every coach has the emotional intelligence and
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Speaker 1: the big picture view of how a team, how you
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Speaker 1: can best tap in and reach a team, because everybody's
15:17
Speaker 1: wired differently. But I can tell you that the Eagles
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Speaker 1: seek all of those qualities that the Nick Sirianni has
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Speaker 1: in his core values, and it should be talked about
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Speaker 1: a little bit more. It should garner more respect largely
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Speaker 1: than it has. It's a little untraditional. I understand that,
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Speaker 1: but there are a lot of CEO head coaches. A
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Speaker 1: lot of them have had great success for some reason.
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Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni is the one who gets picked apart the most,
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Speaker 1: but he's been the most successful and the body of work.
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Speaker 2: Speaks for itself.
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Speaker 1: And so Nick was asked about whether he feels that
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Speaker 1: he gets the appropriate appreciation for what he's accomplished in Philadelphia,
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Speaker 1: and he said, and this is a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a longer quote, but I'll read it. I can't control
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Speaker 1: what anyone thinks or feels. That's okay. I think sometimes
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Speaker 1: if I get wrapped up into the wrong things, Hey,
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Speaker 1: the appreciation for us should be higher.
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Speaker 2: That doesn't really matter. You know.
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Speaker 1: Even if a second of my time is being worried
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Speaker 1: about hey, I wish they appreciated this more. Then I
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Speaker 1: just lost a little bit of time that I could
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Speaker 1: have been doing with something else that really matters. There's
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Speaker 1: always in these seats and in football where you're being
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Speaker 1: watched by people because it's such a loved game, and
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Speaker 1: granted it's such a freaking awesome game, there's always going
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Speaker 1: to be noise. It's like, what does it help you
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Speaker 1: to focus on that? And it really doesn't. I'm not
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Speaker 1: saying we've been perfect at that, And I'm not saying
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Speaker 1: that I've been perfect at that because we're human and
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Speaker 1: we haven't. But I think there's growth in finding yourself
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Speaker 1: through the journey that you've gone through to get to
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Speaker 1: a point where like, yeah, should we be more appreciated
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Speaker 1: more or should we be appreciated more?
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Speaker 2: I don't know. That's out of my control. So what
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Speaker 2: is in my control.
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Speaker 1: The daily habits that we go about to put the
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Speaker 1: best product that we can on the field to ultimately
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Speaker 1: do the best things that we can do. And we've
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Speaker 1: done a good job and we want to continue to
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Speaker 1: do a good job in that. So it's all part
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Speaker 1: of the journey of becoming who you are. That's an
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Speaker 1: important quote and something that I wanted to make sure
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Speaker 1: that I delivered to you all, because there are a
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Speaker 1: lot of coaches in his place, in his seat that
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Speaker 1: can tend to have rabbit ears. You hear the criticism,
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Speaker 1: you read it, you're aware of it, and sometimes you
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Speaker 1: let that consume you. But as as you just heard,
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Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni is more so focused on the daily habits
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Speaker 1: and putting the best product possible on the field. Anything
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Speaker 1: else would be a feudal endeavor. He doesn't get wrapped
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Speaker 1: up in the nonsense on the outside, the coaching power
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Speaker 1: rankings and the other off season exercises.
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Speaker 2: None of that matters.
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Speaker 1: What does matter is what happens when the Eagles take
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Speaker 1: the field in training camp.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's the right approach to this.
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Speaker 1: You never want to love to stick it to somebody
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Speaker 1: who has been hyper critical or things like that. You
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Speaker 1: have to focus on your business in that building and
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Speaker 1: do what you can to put the Eagles in the
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Speaker 1: best position to win football games and make sure all
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Speaker 1: your players are taken care of and accounted for. Anything
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Speaker 1: else is really irrelevant, and I think Nick Sirianni really
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Speaker 1: encapsulated that in that answer, and that's something that as
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Speaker 1: a coach in a six season I'm sure as a listener,
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Speaker 1: that's something that you're you like to hear.
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Speaker 2: I also want to get.
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Speaker 1: To the wide receiver position because this is the first
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Speaker 1: year that the Eagles will be without Aj Brown since
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, and there's difficulty with that. But Nick
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Speaker 1: Sirianni had some very glowing things to say about his group.
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Speaker 1: He said he's really excited about this receiver room and
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Speaker 1: with DeVante Smith. He said he's a special player that
18:55
Speaker 1: can continue to get even more targets than he's had,
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Speaker 1: and Nick mentions that he he's had over one hundred
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Speaker 1: targets he believes almost every year and has had high,
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Speaker 1: high volume a couple of the years. And then he says,
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Speaker 1: so he's so capable of doing even more and man.
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Speaker 2: He is such a good football player.
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Speaker 1: Then he gets to Don Tavian Wicks and talks about
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Speaker 1: his ability and mentions the similarities, and he said it's
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Speaker 1: going to come across as a high praise statement and
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Speaker 1: he's not saying that he is this player, but he's
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Speaker 1: talking about the skill set.
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Speaker 2: And he said that.
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Speaker 1: Don Tavian Wicks reminds him of Keenan Allen with the
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Speaker 1: way he is in and out of breaks. And I
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Speaker 1: think some people say, yeah, this is who he is.
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Speaker 1: This is the guy, and I think that everybody is
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Speaker 1: their own individual, So it's like, you know, this portion
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Speaker 1: of the game reminds me of this guy's portion of
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Speaker 1: the game. And Keenan with the way they are off
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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, the way they are at the
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Speaker 1: top of the route, the way they are with the
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Speaker 1: ball in their hands, he just really reminds me of
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Speaker 1: him in that aspect. Then he gets into Makay Lemon
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Speaker 1: and talks about how the Eagles clearly drafted him for
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Speaker 1: a reason and where they drafted him was for a reason,
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Speaker 1: but his ability to catch the football in tough situations.
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Speaker 1: And then he gets down the list and goes to
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Speaker 1: Darius Cooper and Johnny Wilson and he said they've been
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Speaker 1: mainstays as far as the style will play that the
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Speaker 1: Eagles need and this offense is going to continue to
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Speaker 1: need as kind of they're tough guys there, and then
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Speaker 1: he reiterates that he's excited about the opportunities that Devonte's
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Speaker 1: going to have coming his way. So make no mistake
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Speaker 1: about it, Losing AJ Brown is a huge loss for
20:33
Speaker 1: this Eagles offense, needless to say, And for someone like
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Speaker 1: Sean Mannion who's installing a new offense, that's something that
20:42
Speaker 1: you have to take into account and something that hamstrings
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Speaker 1: you to a degree. But the Eagles internally, and I'm
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Speaker 1: sure that you listening have seen enough from Davonte Smith
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Speaker 1: to be pretty optimistic about his outlook going into the
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty sixth season. The Eagles certainly are, and they
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Speaker 1: have the players around him and the quarterback and the
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Speaker 1: offensive line meaning to really support a breakthrough season for DeVante.
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Speaker 1: I'm still not expecting it to be a high volume
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Speaker 1: passing attack, but I am expecting it to be a
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Speaker 1: much more functional passing attack that has some more creative
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Speaker 1: route concepts. It gets DeVante on the move a little
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Speaker 1: bit more, it leans into his versatility and ability to
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Speaker 1: be a three level threat, and so you take all
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Speaker 1: that into consideration and it is going to be a
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Speaker 1: noticeable difference. But that's what Nick Sirianni had to say
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Speaker 1: about his new look receiving group. I try to best
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Speaker 1: summarize this as best I could, but I needed to
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Speaker 1: make sure that I got to some really notable things
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Speaker 1: that I think are going to be important to keep
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Speaker 1: in mind as training camp is fast approaching. It gives
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Speaker 1: you a different perspective perhaps, But with that, that's going
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Speaker 1: to do it. For this episode of The Checho Daily,
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Speaker 1: I'm Andrew de Checko, and I'll catch you all on
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Speaker 1: the next one.