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Huddle Up | Bucky Weighs in on Jaguars Passing Game · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought you by the Fields Total Group.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst and former
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  Speaker 1: Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and Senior reporter JP Shadrick bring you
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  Speaker 1: the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now and welcome in. It is
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  Speaker 2: the Hondai studios at the Miller Electric Center. Kind of
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  Speaker 2: a quiet place this week on the bye week. Bucky
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  Speaker 2: Brooks joining us from Los Angeles, California. And here we
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  Speaker 2: go our final chance to discuss this Rams Jaguars matchup.
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  Speaker 2: The rest of the week, there's no shows. It's the
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  Speaker 2: bye week. So this is it. This is the final
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  Speaker 2: program on Jaguars dot com this week before the BIEWA
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  Speaker 2: next week before next week. We'll do it again next Bucky,
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  Speaker 2: good afternoon. What's up?
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  Speaker 3: Not too much was going on? Guess how you feeling
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  Speaker 3: pretty good?
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars are?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not feeling as good as they were a few
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  Speaker 2: weeks ago, but that's kind of what it is. Four
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  Speaker 2: and three record bye week is here a lot of
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  Speaker 2: self scouting, assessment, digging into what they do well and
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  Speaker 2: they don't do well. And you know, we'll dig into
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  Speaker 2: all that on either on both sides of the ball, offense,
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  Speaker 2: defense coming up. But you know a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: same things popped up this past week at Wembley, where
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  Speaker 2: the Jags kept getting penalized, and it's hard to get
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  Speaker 2: past that when you know the biggest game record is yourselves.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and Bucky, I'll let you come on it, comment
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  Speaker 4: on it, because you obviously played more NFL snaps than I.
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  Speaker 2: Did obviously, But.
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  Speaker 4: To me, the game was summed up, and it's a
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  Speaker 4: situational game when you're watching it, and it becomes less
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  Speaker 4: so when you're analyzing. You look for other things when
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  Speaker 4: you're analyzing during the week. But the Jaguars on their
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  Speaker 4: first three series faced something in long every time. The
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  Speaker 4: Rams on their first four series only faced at once
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  Speaker 4: and they punted and they scored the other three times.
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  Speaker 4: There are some teams who can overcome bad down in
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  Speaker 4: distance when they're mature teams in the first year of
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  Speaker 4: a build, when you're not. This is not the same
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  Speaker 4: talent levels they're going to win in three years. They're
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  Speaker 4: just getting started. They're still figuring out this offense. You
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  Speaker 4: have to be in good down and distance and to me, Bucky,
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  Speaker 4: until they stop putting themselves into those situations, the Rams
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  Speaker 4: never did it. I mean until they stopped doing that,
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  Speaker 4: we won't know if this team's any good or not.
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  Speaker 5: No, you won't And you can't win until you learn
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  Speaker 5: how to avoid losing.
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  Speaker 3: And right now we.
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  Speaker 6: Are still yeah, tripping ourselves up.
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  Speaker 5: And it's one of those things where coaches talk about
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  Speaker 5: you and Liam talked about like, hey, it can't be
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  Speaker 5: the Jags beating the Jags, but it's the penalties, is
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  Speaker 5: the turnovers, the drop passes, those things are really hurting them.
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  Speaker 5: And then for the first time in a long time,
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  Speaker 5: we saw some blown assignments for misalignments that led to
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  Speaker 5: big plays. Those are things that the Jacks had done
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  Speaker 5: a pretty good job of kind of keeping in check.
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  Speaker 5: But man, it keeps rearing his ugly head and inopportune moments,
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  Speaker 5: and it's really preventing the team from even see if
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  Speaker 5: they're good enough to beat these other teams that they're
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  Speaker 5: taking off.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Jpi, we've got two weeks, and you know, I've
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  Speaker 4: got two weeks answering questions in the ozone. And I
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  Speaker 4: thought on the ride home the other night, the people
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  Speaker 4: aren't get sick of me talking about because I was
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  Speaker 4: watching that game in real time and thinking, you know,
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  Speaker 4: third and eleven, second and twelve, you know they are
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  Speaker 4: not when you overcome that these days, you feel like
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  Speaker 4: it's a big win. It's just harder and harder to
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  Speaker 4: overcome those situations, and they put themselves in it every time,
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  Speaker 4: and then they drop the ball all right.
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  Speaker 2: When they do actually have a third and long and
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  Speaker 2: have a route that's open, Parker can't catch it. Whoever
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  Speaker 2: can't catch it fill in the blank, right, and that's
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  Speaker 2: they can't execute. Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 4: I guess, Bucky. I've seen this team win four games
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  Speaker 4: against three what look like pretty good teams. Carolina, San
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  Speaker 4: Francisco and Case are all over five hundred. I think
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  Speaker 4: Case's really good. I think Frisco is really good. We've
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  Speaker 4: seen them do it, so they can do it. Excuse
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  Speaker 4: me there, But until they start doing it again, it's
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  Speaker 4: going to frustrate people, mostly themselves.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look is very frustrating to see them
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  Speaker 5: continue to have these issues because it's been talked about,
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  Speaker 5: and I mean Liam talks about it every time he
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  Speaker 5: steps in front the mic, about just not beating ourselves
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  Speaker 5: or not doing the things that we'll put us in
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  Speaker 5: a bind and making the plays that are there to
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  Speaker 5: be made and those things, and we're not doing it
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  Speaker 5: consistently enough. And I can sense that the frustration, and
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  Speaker 5: it kind of reached that point when he said, like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: we need to figure out who needs to play more
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  Speaker 5: and who needs to play less based on their performance.
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  Speaker 5: To me, one, it's a grown up thing. You applaud
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  Speaker 5: that because talking about holding people accountable, but yeah, we
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  Speaker 5: have reached that point where we do need to kind
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  Speaker 5: of figure out who can handle the execution expectations and
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  Speaker 5: who can.
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  Speaker 2: All right, guys, just come back. We'll dig into the
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  Speaker 2: offense moving ahead, and get into that offensive line a
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  Speaker 2: little bit as well, and see what the Jags can
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  Speaker 2: do on that side of the football a little later,
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  Speaker 2: or dig into the Jags defense that is gonna dry
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  Speaker 7: We've obviously need to make sure that we're in a position,
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  Speaker 7: you know, with our hands, with our violence to the tuck,
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  Speaker 7: with the way we're looking the ball in, you know,
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  Speaker 7: and also ball plays making sure the ball is in
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  Speaker 7: the right spots and not you know, all that stuff.
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  Speaker 7: I think there's a combination of things.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Still, we got to keep throwing it now.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, we can't go running it and running it,
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  Speaker 7: running it so and it's just the way it goes.
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  Speaker 2: William going after the game at Wimbley Jaguars fall to
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  Speaker 2: the Rams thirty five seven, welcome back and tuddle up
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  Speaker 2: with Bucky Brooks. That was in reference to throwing the
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  Speaker 2: football to Brian Thomas Junior. Some more drops in the
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  Speaker 2: game the end of the day, I believe was six,
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  Speaker 2: and then at least a couple more in the game.
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  Speaker 2: And he will isn't the only one, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: but they got to keep on doing it offensively. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, a lot of this is stuff we've talked
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  Speaker 2: about every week, like the drops and the lack of
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  Speaker 2: execution and the overthrows and maybe the ball's a little
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  Speaker 2: behind a receiver, or he overthrows the open tight end,
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  Speaker 2: or it just hits the receiver in the hands and
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  Speaker 2: they can't bring it in. So Bucky has a You
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  Speaker 2: see the frustration little bit on Liam Gohen's face there
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  Speaker 2: certainly just what else can you do? But there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of season left for this to continue to build
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  Speaker 2: and grow offensively. But you got to execute the little
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  Speaker 2: things the pass and catch. I mean, it's as simple
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  Speaker 2: as that, and they haven't been able to do it consistently.
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  Speaker 5: Now they haven't been able to do it consistently, and
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  Speaker 5: what that would probably lead Liam going into coaches do
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  Speaker 5: is to focus more on it and practice in terms
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  Speaker 5: of being really diligent about paying attention to the details,
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  Speaker 5: whether it's route depth, whether it's pass catching technique. You
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  Speaker 5: heard them talk about odds and putting your nose on
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  Speaker 5: the tip of the ball and watching it to tuck
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  Speaker 5: and making sure that it's caught before you run up
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  Speaker 5: the field and those things. I am sure the jug
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  Speaker 5: machine is in heavy utilization.
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  Speaker 6: Over the next two weeks.
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  Speaker 5: They'll do a bunch of basic things to kind of
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  Speaker 5: go back to just making sure that the fundamentals are right,
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  Speaker 5: but at the end of the day, these are pros,
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  Speaker 5: and in the pros their expectations that everyone has to meet.
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  Speaker 6: When the ball is thrown in your area, you're supposed
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  Speaker 6: to catch it.
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  Speaker 5: When you're asked to throw the ball, you expected to
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  Speaker 5: throw it in the strike zone. So as much as
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  Speaker 5: we want to blame the pass catchers, the passer also
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  Speaker 5: has to share some of the responsibility. And I would
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  Speaker 5: think that it would be on Trevor to get together
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  Speaker 5: with the wide receivers and make sure they iron out
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  Speaker 5: some of the issues that have been plaguing them from
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  Speaker 5: the beginning of the season, because for the Jaguars to
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  Speaker 5: be the team that they can be and want to be,
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  Speaker 5: the passing game has to improve tremendously over the last.
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  Speaker 3: Half of the season.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so much to get into, and I don't
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  Speaker 4: want to be accused of overlooking Trevor Lawrence because first
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  Speaker 4: play the game, takes a sack that shouldn't have taken
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  Speaker 4: and there's a couple of the sacks that sort of
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  Speaker 4: add up to that as well, And there are throws
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  Speaker 4: that have to be made that he's not making, and
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  Speaker 4: there are instinctive stuff or you know, football field stuff
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  Speaker 4: that still sort of make you shake your head every
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  Speaker 4: now and then. All that said, he's quarterback, and the
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  Speaker 4: fact that Liam stood there and said, hey, we've got
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  Speaker 4: to keep throwing, well, I think about the performances that
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  Speaker 4: it takes to get a coach to that. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if it words in his mouth when he says, hey,
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  Speaker 4: we can't keep running, well, of course you have to
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  Speaker 4: keep throwing, and when you not sure where to throw
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  Speaker 4: it to, which I think has to be the case
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  Speaker 4: with number seven. And I'm not trying to I sit
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  Speaker 4: here and just pound on Brian Thomas Jr. But everybody
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  Speaker 4: sees the struggles Bucky that so much of an offense,
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  Speaker 4: how teams defend you and what you run off of
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  Speaker 4: is key on having a guy that, Okay, we know
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  Speaker 4: he can do this, we have to take this away.
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  Speaker 4: It opens things up for other players. It makes the
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  Speaker 4: quarterback comfortable. I know I'm going to have this read.
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  Speaker 4: When there's not that confidence in your quote unquote one,
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  Speaker 4: it cripples things. From what I've seen over the years.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say that at some point you have
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  Speaker 5: to reevaluate the pecking order.
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  Speaker 3: So the first thing.
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  Speaker 5: The first thing that you do is your coaches talk
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  Speaker 5: about making sure that I'm asking players.
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  Speaker 3: To do what they do really well.
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  Speaker 5: And if you look at the numbers and you look
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  Speaker 5: at the drops that Brian Thomas Junior has at, most
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  Speaker 5: of them have been on end breaking rows inside.
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  Speaker 3: The numbers, going across the middle.
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  Speaker 5: The natural thing that you can do is, hey, let's
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  Speaker 5: not ask him to do things that he's not great at,
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  Speaker 5: even though it shrinks the call sheet and maybe prevents
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  Speaker 5: us from getting him the ball at a high volume.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe we need to ask him to do things that
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  Speaker 5: he does well. Catching the ball on outbreaking route, catching
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  Speaker 5: the ball vertical. Maybe that's his wheelhouse. Now, the trick
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  Speaker 5: is finding someone who can do the things that he
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  Speaker 5: does well. I'll tell you that when you look at
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  Speaker 5: Travis Hunter, he catches the ball well in traffic. He's
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  Speaker 5: the best ball catcher that we have on the team,
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  Speaker 5: and that's been established from the first day that he
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  Speaker 5: walked onto the field.
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  Speaker 6: He is as naturally a pass catcher as.
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  Speaker 5: We'll find, catching the ball easily effortlessly. To me, as
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  Speaker 5: we reshuffle the deck in the passing game, it has
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  Speaker 5: to be number twelve being the number one option and
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  Speaker 5: then everybody else feels in after that, not giving up
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  Speaker 5: on Brian Thomas Junior. But I think, look, the numbers
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  Speaker 5: are the numbers, and the film is the film, and
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  Speaker 5: if you're not reordering the priority sheet the distribution sheet,
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  Speaker 5: you're not being fair to everyone in the locker room
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  Speaker 5: Travis Hunter first, then it could be Brian Thomas Junior
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  Speaker 5: or Bred and Strange, and then you work your way
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  Speaker 5: down from that. I think that will be what we
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  Speaker 5: see from this team coming out of the break, that
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  Speaker 5: Travis Hunter has a lot more touches and opportunities to
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  Speaker 5: make his mark on offense. And he'll still do the
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  Speaker 5: defense thing, but I think it's about number twelve being
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  Speaker 5: featured on offense.
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  Speaker 4: I have a question for the offensive coordinator, and I
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  Speaker 4: don't know the answer is which why I'm answering the
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  Speaker 4: question the fact that Travis, and understandably in his situation,
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  Speaker 4: really knows one wide receiver position because it's a lot
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  Speaker 4: to learn, and they focused on teaching him this one spot.
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  Speaker 4: Can he be the one from where with what he knows?
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  Speaker 4: Is that fair to him? Have the offense go through
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  Speaker 4: him at this point? And I don't know really the
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  Speaker 4: details of what I'm asking, But I gu just talking
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  Speaker 4: about the subtleness of that look.
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  Speaker 8: Man.
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  Speaker 5: I understand like normally what you do and with the
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  Speaker 5: number one receiver you have a bunch of bells and
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  Speaker 5: whistles that you use to make sure that you can
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  Speaker 5: free him from various coverage, whether it's double teams or
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  Speaker 5: bracket where they're cloud and the thing this.
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  Speaker 3: Way, I think before we even get to thinking.
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  Speaker 5: About what we'll need to do to handle some of
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  Speaker 5: the counter tactics, one, we need to establish that he's
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  Speaker 5: the number one and I think anyone who has watched
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  Speaker 5: particularly of late, when he gets the ball in his hands,
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  Speaker 5: he is electric. He rarely is tackled by the first
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  Speaker 5: guy on the scene.
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  Speaker 3: He makes guys miss. He has.
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  Speaker 5: A flair for the dramatic when it comes to the
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  Speaker 5: electricity that he brings when he has the ball in
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  Speaker 5: his hands.
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  Speaker 3: That's one. Two.
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  Speaker 5: He is the most consistent and reliable pass catcher that
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  Speaker 5: they have. When you look at the rates to catch rates,
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  Speaker 5: whatever it is targets to catch is he is the best.
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  Speaker 5: As you're thinking about this, and it's going to be
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  Speaker 5: the challenge is really on Liam Cohen because he has
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  Speaker 5: all these plays that he wants to get to because
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  Speaker 5: he knows that they will work.
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  Speaker 3: But the first thing he has to write.
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  Speaker 6: Down is, Okay, Travis Hunter does these things well.
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  Speaker 3: These are the.
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  Speaker 6: Plays that work for him and getting him the ball.
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  Speaker 3: Same thing for Brian Thomas Jr.
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  Speaker 5: Here are the plays that work well for him, the
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  Speaker 5: routes and the route tree and those things. And then
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  Speaker 5: it's maybe scaling down the menu so that every play
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  Speaker 5: puts each of those players in a position where they're
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  Speaker 5: playing to their strengths and you're minimizing their weaknesses. Hard
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  Speaker 5: to do, but it needs to be done if this
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  Speaker 5: offense is going to operate more efficiently going down the stretch.
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  Speaker 2: Fellas will come back, will flip it around and take
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  Speaker 2: a look at the Jaguars defense at the bye week
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  Speaker 2: and how to get back on the takeaway train. They
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  Speaker 2: missed the train the last two weeks or so.
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  Speaker 8: This is huddle up with Bucky Brooks.
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  Speaker 9: I feel like we're going, we're really going together and
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  Speaker 9: we're getting better. But today I feel like we had
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  Speaker 9: a step back. And as a leader, I feel like
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  Speaker 9: that that's that's definitely one of me being a key
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  Speaker 9: part in that. But I let you guys know that
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  Speaker 9: I let them down and they appreciated me. But like
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  Speaker 9: I said, man, I really do love them, and we're
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  Speaker 9: gonna get better. And I know, I know, I've been
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  Speaker 9: through my fair share of adversity, so I think we
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  Speaker 9: can we can get through this.
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  Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis, Jaguars cornerback, had four penalties called against him
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  Speaker 2: in the game too on one play in the game
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  Speaker 2: of wimbley this past week, the loss of the Rams
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  Speaker 2: walking back in is huddle up with Bucky Brooks. Have
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  Speaker 2: immediate future defensively could use a few more turnovers as
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  Speaker 2: they look at the defensive coverage of the game presented
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  Speaker 2: by g E Government Employees Health Association. First few weeks
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  Speaker 2: of the season fourteen picks or fourteen takeaways and the
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  Speaker 2: last two weeks none, no takeaways. For the Jaguars defense
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  Speaker 2: the last two weeks, Devin Lloyd has not been on
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  Speaker 2: the field. He was a big piece of a lot
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  Speaker 2: of that takeaway defense, and of course early in the
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  Speaker 2: season and playing with the lead a lot, and when
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  Speaker 2: teams are trailing, they're throwing at you and a little
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  Speaker 2: more aggressive. So defensively, where are the Jags now at
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  Speaker 2: the bye week, Bucky? Where do you think they stand?
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  Speaker 2: And where does this group go from here?
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  Speaker 3: Now? Look, without question, they're coming off the worst performance.
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  Speaker 5: Of the season, but overall the team has been really
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  Speaker 5: good on death side of the ball. Defensively, they've exceeded expectations.
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  Speaker 5: The turnovers are a thing. You're not gonna be able
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  Speaker 5: to rely on them consistently, but you always want to
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  Speaker 5: have the obsession.
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  Speaker 6: Because they do decide games. The things that.
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  Speaker 5: Have to work is this is a complimentary football team,
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  Speaker 5: meaning that the defense is dependent upon the offense and
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  Speaker 5: the special teams in terms of their performance to set
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  Speaker 5: them up for success. Because the offense hasn't been able
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  Speaker 5: to grab the lead, they haven't been able to force
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  Speaker 5: opponents into a one dimensional approach.
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  Speaker 6: That really plays into the pass rush.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: And the defense being in zone and being able to
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: really go after the ball. So it's about everybody getting
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: on the same page. And on defense, it's about making
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: sure that the assignments and the alignments are right, making
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: sure that the ga fits are right on early down,
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: so you stop to run and you force teams to
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: throw when everyone in the stadium knows they're throwing, and
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: then you can heat them up and you can get
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: after the passer and those things. So it's just about
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: getting back on the details. I would just say that
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: the Rams game was a bit of an anomaly. I
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: don't know what was going on, but I can tell
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: you that it seemed like the team was in a
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: fall and he just didn't show up and play.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Throw it out. Look at the good.
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: That we've seen.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: Focus on that clean up some of the little issues
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: that are popped up.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: But look, man, the defense is solid.
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: It's not necessarily that side of the ball.
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: It's really the other side getting help from the offense
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: that have helped the defense continue to improve.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm absolutely the same page as Bucky here. I
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: think the most overlooked part when people talk about the
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: NFL is how situational it is, and how situational some
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: statistics are when you're trailing and they've been sort of
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: down in the last couple of games, whereas the theme
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: going into Seattle, remember was they had led this inordinate
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: amount of the season, I think, and when you haven't
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: had that last couple of weeks, it reduces your chance
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: of turnovers. I think the encouraging thing for this defense.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to be a top five defense,
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: and I think going to be remembered with the eighty
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: five Bears that I think they're good and they're still
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: seem in control in the running game, and when you
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: can stop the run, you give yourself a chance if
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: other circumstances are right, to be in passing situations to
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: get turnovers. Also, I don't think it could be overlooked.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: This is a different defense. Once forty four went out
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: and not playing with both hands, that's right, and he
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: is your I get that he's not a fifteen sack
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: or wasn't willing creating the turnovers, but he wrecks stuff.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: And I do think that his disruption and the fact
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: that teams don't have to be as concerned about him
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: when he's playing with one hand just breaking the game buck.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Yet I think that keeps them from being a when
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: he's not right. There's not that much on the defense
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: that scares you because josh heinz Allen can't be as
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: effective because they can double him.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that that's really what it is.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: I mean we could talk about like the personnel, but
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: the Jags when they're locked and loaded, they have everyone available.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: They're problematic because you have two big time pass rushers.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: You have a playmaker that's emerged in the middle and
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: Devin Lloyd, and then you have a big body inside
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: and Eric Armstead. That has created problems to allow those
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: two outside guys to eat well. Now when injuries takes
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: one off the field and Lloyd and puts another in
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: a compromise position where you can't fully utilize all the
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: things that makes them a dominant player.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the defense is impacted. That's it.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: You don't make excuses for it. You have to be
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: able to kind of work around it. And so this
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: by week and think if a nearly can dig into
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: lab and try and figure out how can I make
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: up for what we don't have available to us personnel
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: wise through scheming? What can we do, whether it's zone blitzes,
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: whether there's stunts, games and those things to create one
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: on one opportunities for Josh hanz Allen and somebody else
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: that emerges on the front line, and also give our
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: guys in the back an opportunity to see ball, get
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: ball in a visit, and break defense. This bye week,
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: this reset gives us a chance to do that so
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: we can have a better version of the unit show
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: up when we played the Raiders in a couple of weeks.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's come back in a moment. We'll take a
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: look at the road ahead for the Jaguars after the
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: bye and the AFC South race and our final thoughts.
• 21:21
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• 21:40
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• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Electric Center, Bucky Brooks in Los Angeles, final thoughts, the
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: AFC South, the Indianapolis Colts six and one now want
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: to know in the Division five and zero in the conference,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: and they don't seem Bucky to be slowing down at all.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Now A couple of games advantage over the Jaguars. This
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: will all if the Jaguars can get on track and
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: stay within reach. There are two games between these two
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: teams in December, so a lot of season left to go.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: But what's Indy doing so well?
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Man? They's just a really good team.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: They're well constructed, they're playing conflimentary ball, and they found
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: the right quarterback for the team and Daniel Jones and
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: a lot of people will kind of say how can
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: he flounder with the Giants but then really work well
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: with the Colts. Is because, like I've said, everyone pretty
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: much eighty five percent in the league are system players.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: And when you get the right player and the right
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: system with the right coach, you can see them blossom.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: And what we're seeing is Shane Stikeen is unlocked a
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: lot of Daniel Jones' potential, his athleticism, his playmaking ability,
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: and Daniel Jones has given them a game manager plus,
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: someone who understands how to play smart situational football while
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: still having enough ability to make some plays off the script.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: And when you take that with a big time run
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: usher and Jonathan Taylor, some talented playmakers on the perimeter,
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: Tyler Warren who they drafted this year, Pittman and Josh Downs.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: They're really good on offense and then defensively, the underrated
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: sign it was them getting defensive coordinator lou and Aroumo.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: They get turnovers, they get after They're a smart defense
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: that throws a lot of different looks at you. And
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: right now all of the pieces of the puzzle fit together.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: The Jaguars can own can control their own destiny when
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: it comes to them because they play some fights. But
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you this version of the Colts is
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: a much different version than we thought coming into the year,
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: and so you just have to be aware that they're
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: gonna be there.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: They're gonna be there to the end.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they got to reel them back in. And you know,
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: I don't think Jaguars are gonna win all their games
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: until the Colts. So there's a little bit of hoping
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: they come back down to earth a little bit. So
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: they look very solid and very consistent, and uh, they're
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: the clear they they're two games up, so I say
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: they're clear favorite. But they've already the Colts. I like
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars. They've gotten through some tests They've beaten Denver
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: and they've beaten La the.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Chargers, so.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: They've gotten through a couple of the ones. If they
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: were coming up, if those games were coming up, you'd
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: be like, Oh, those teams are tough. That's right, we've
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: gotten through those. So yeah, they're gonna be tough. It's
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: gonna be tough to get them all right.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: So now the Jaguars schedule after the bye, four of
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: the next five are on the road at Vegas, at Houston,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: home against the Chargers, and then at Arizona at Tennessee.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: That is, you know, never mind the opponents away for
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: the next five weeks. That's how it goes. When the
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: London game is in the middle of the schedule, Bucky,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: and they've got a lot to figure out in the
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: next week before they head out to Las Vegas.
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but look, there's no easy way into the postseason,
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: and so you have to have a tough mindset where
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: you have to be road warriors. In a perfect world,
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: you want to win all the games that you have
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: at home and you want to go fifty fifty on
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: those road games. Well, now we have to attack the
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: road where we got to win some of these games
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: against tough opponents. But I think if you look at
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: the stretch that we just came out of, we would
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: all say that that was going to be the most
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: difficult stretch that we had and what you want the
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: first half of the year. It's not popular to say,
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: but it's very much like coaches think. You just want
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: to be in contention. You just don't want to be
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: off the radar by the time you get to the
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: midpoint of the season. But the Jacks are squarely in it.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: But to make it into the postseason, the magic number
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: is ten. So now we got to start stacking some
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: of these wins up against some teams that are even
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: or competitive with us.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: We got to find ways to win those.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: Games, and if we win them, then we have an
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: opportunity to dance a little bit when we get into January.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Look, if this team plays how it did the first
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: five games, I'm not particularly worried about where the next
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: five are. There's no team on that schedule to me
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: that the Seahawks and the Rams were tough matchups to
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: me when the schedule came out, those were the two
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: games that I thought a lot of people are going
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: to look at different parts of this schedule and not
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: realize how tough that little stretches, because they're just good
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: franchises that rarely have weaknesses. Biselli asked me about a
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: month ago, maybe after Cincinnati, you know what I thought
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: of the team. I said, I think you will be
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: in how many games were left, twelve or thirteen out
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: of your last fifteen. I think you're going to be
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: in contention at the end, and I think I think
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: you're going to get hammered in two or three of
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: the games, not because of anything, but that's usually how
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: it goes in early regime years. Well, they got hammered
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: on Sunday, and it's tough to rationalize that right after
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: it happens. But to me, this team isn't any different
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: than I thought they'd be at mid season. I thought
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: they were a nine or ten win team. I thought
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: there would be a couple of games that they just
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: got rolled, because that's usually what happens early when you're
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: still figuring stuff out. But if you told me they
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: were four and three at the by with victories over
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: San fran in Kansas City, it's their for him. If
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: they can play to the identity that they were in
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: the first four or five games. Now. I don't know
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: if they can do that, but if they cut out
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: these mistakes, they can't sure this is not a dead season.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: But what the box says, yeah, And I think you
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: have to keep everything in perspective and keep it in perspective, like, man,
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: these games are like snowflakes. Every game has its own
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: individual story and you can't worry about is there a
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: carry over. There's no carryover from what took place in
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: London to what's going to take place when we line
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: it up against in the Raiders. Hopefully though, uh, the
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: lessons that come out of these losses will make you
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: a much better team coming out of it, whether that
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: is how to prepare for a game, whether that's hey,
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: let's make sure we understand the personnel that we need
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: on the field, primarily touching the ball.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: All those things.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: This is where we are because coming into the year,
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: there's a thing like hey, we think we're going to
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: play like this, and then you get to that point
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: where you do the self reflection like, hey, I know
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: we thought that we were going to play like this,
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: but here's how we have to play with our team.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: We're now at that point and what good coaching staffs
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: do is they pivot when they need to. This is
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: the perfect opportunity for us to pivot, to put our
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: players in the best position, UH to play their best.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: These games are all snowflakes can't beat. That's analysis sign
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: it off.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Unique.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: So we're going to lean into what we do best,
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: which is Bucky and allergies and close it out.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: That's that's a good way to call it.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: UH.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Bucky, have a great bye week and enjoy. We'll talk
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: to you again next week.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Appreciate you.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Bucky Brooks out of here, John Osier, JP,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Shadwick are thanks to Joe Fortunado, Brent Reever, our entire crew,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: and thanks to you for watching. Enjoy the bye week.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: It's huddle UF with Bucky Brooks.