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Chuck & Buck 3-30 Hour 4: Ryon Healy · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: That's crazy, actually is that Ryan Heay always says wearing
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Speaker 1: hats most of the time, and then all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden he shows up and he's like, that's like the
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Speaker 1: best head of hair that you're ever going to see.
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Speaker 1: It's like, who would bury their great ten out of
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Speaker 1: ten head of hair under a hat ninety five percent.
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Speaker 2: Because a lot of times people take off the hat
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Speaker 2: and you're like, whoa, that's what you were hiding there exactly.
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Speaker 1: I've had that. I've had women tell me that before. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: pretty much right to my face, like I'm sorry. I
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Speaker 1: had a girl one time memory, because I do look
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Speaker 1: pretty good in a hat. I can rock a hat,
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Speaker 1: you know, I'd look better in a hat than not
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Speaker 1: having a hat on. And I literally had a girl
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Speaker 1: one time tell me like, you aren't one of those
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Speaker 1: guys that take your hat off and you don't look
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Speaker 1: the same, are you? And I'm like, I kind of am.
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Speaker 3: I had like a beard too, It's like, are you
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Speaker 3: a completely different human being when you shave the beard?
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Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, well, I'll throw you off. Sometimes I can
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Speaker 1: be mistaken for a young Glomanian boy, but not most
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Speaker 1: of the time. Most of the time it's just the
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Speaker 1: old krusty bastard in front of you. It's Chuck and
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Speaker 1: Ashley with you know Bucky here today. Ryan Healy, former
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Speaker 1: Mariner cornerman, joins us here on Chuck and Buck as
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Speaker 1: he's going to all season long. We are certainly excited
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Speaker 1: about that. And sorry Bucky is not here. And I
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Speaker 1: wasn't sure if the salute when you came on our
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Speaker 1: zoom call was just between former players who hit home
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Speaker 1: runs in the major leagues or if I was supposed
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Speaker 1: to be in on that. So you gave it to
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Speaker 1: me this morning. I hope I didn't overstep my bounds.
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Speaker 3: It didn't feel as comfortable as it does when Bucky's here.
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Speaker 3: So I think next time what I'll ask if you
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Speaker 3: was just do it with more conviction or whether you
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Speaker 3: prolonged to doing it or not, just.
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Speaker 1: Act like, just own it, just own it, okay, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: well yeah, well, see, Bucky makes the mistake because you
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Speaker 1: do the salute and then he does it, and then
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Speaker 1: you have to take it down before he's supposed to
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Speaker 1: do it, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 4: So you want me to do a standoff next time
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Speaker 4: and see if I can get him to break.
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Speaker 1: First, right like at the beginning of a game in
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Speaker 1: the national anthem, You and I'm on the outer lip
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Speaker 1: of the dugout. All right, Well, I'll be more convicted
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Speaker 1: in the future. I didn't know if that was a
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Speaker 1: former player gesture, so now I know. Now I know.
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Speaker 4: We're all retired now, so we're all wanted the same.
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Speaker 1: How much would you have loved to be playing today
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Speaker 1: with an ABS challenge system being introduced to your sport.
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm a little indifferent about it, just because I
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Speaker 3: wasn't the best strike zone awareness guy. If you look
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Speaker 3: at my JUST career numbers, the walk percentage wasn't tremendous,
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Speaker 3: So I probably wouldn't have gotten just a green light,
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Speaker 3: go ahead and do it. I would have had to
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Speaker 3: earn some trust and pick my spots. But there are
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Speaker 3: definitely guys that know the strikes on like the back
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Speaker 3: of their hand, and you're seeing them get rewarded. And
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Speaker 3: you're also seeing a couple of umpires get exposed earlier
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Speaker 3: this season, So I don't know.
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Speaker 4: I might have been a little timid spring training. I
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Speaker 4: probably would let to eat.
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Speaker 3: But you can see there are some guys across the
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Speaker 3: league still timid right now about when and where they
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Speaker 3: want to use that challenge.
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Speaker 1: Did it make you happy to see some umpires who
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Speaker 1: have a reputation for not being very good and those
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Speaker 1: same umpires used to hump your games? Did it make
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Speaker 1: you happy to see a couple of them get exposed
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Speaker 1: over the weekend their first exposure to the system.
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Speaker 3: I almost steel bad admitting this on airon I'm almost
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Speaker 3: mad that you asked me this question, because I can't
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Speaker 3: lie live on radio, right. And the truth is is, yeah,
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Speaker 3: these guys deserve that. They embarrass us all the time,
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Speaker 3: so they should know how it feels. But also in
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Speaker 3: the same regard, like they're human beings, they make mistakes.
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Speaker 3: But now there is an accountability system, and unfortunately, forty
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Speaker 3: plus thousand people get to gesture their reaction and their
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Speaker 3: responses in the moment if they like, what is happening?
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Speaker 3: Do you do?
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Speaker 1: I mean we were talking about earlier in the show.
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Speaker 1: I want the stats posted all the time. I want
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Speaker 1: player stats in terms of challenging, I want Catcher stats.
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Speaker 1: I want Pitcher stats when they get to jump. I
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Speaker 1: want the stats to be posted, but I certainly want
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Speaker 1: them on umpires too. I mean, we have, for whatever reason,
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Speaker 1: decided major League Baseball umpires get off scott free. They
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Speaker 1: seem to have the best job security in the world.
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Speaker 1: Players don't have that. You're hitting one twenty two in August,
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Speaker 1: you're not going to be on the team any longer.
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Speaker 1: Managers can get fired within the first month of a
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Speaker 1: regular season, and yet umpires seem to have teflon on them.
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Speaker 1: They don't have to answer for bad calls after the game.
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Speaker 1: Most of the time, you aren't even allowed to argue
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Speaker 1: balls and strikes technically in the sports. So what would
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Speaker 1: major What do you think Major League Baseball kind of
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Speaker 1: looking down the road is going to do if CB
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Speaker 1: Buckner's statistics show what everybody has kind of believed that
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Speaker 1: halfway through the season, this guy's blowing more calls, he's
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Speaker 1: having more calls overturned than anyone else in the sport.
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Speaker 1: Just as an.
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Speaker 4: Example, that's a good question.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what the language in the Union reads
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Speaker 3: for the umpires, but obviously they're very protected. They're length
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Speaker 3: in the major leagues once it gets their showcases that
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Speaker 3: the history of the umpires beating their show is that.
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Speaker 3: My hope is that what it does is it creates
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Speaker 3: somewhat of a ranking system, and I think there is that,
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Speaker 3: but it's not always very public or at least presented
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Speaker 3: to the fans or players when they go to the yard.
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Speaker 3: I want that implications to be against playoffs, like you
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Speaker 3: don't get to go umpire playoff baseball. If you are
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Speaker 3: not in a certain percentile of umpires, then you should
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Speaker 3: not be doing the playoffs. That's my opinion. Whether you
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Speaker 3: should lose your job or not, I'm not gonna put
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Speaker 3: that out there, but there should be there should be
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Speaker 3: a system in place for the best umpires get to
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Speaker 3: umpire the most important games, and then obviously the better
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Speaker 3: umpire you are, you can now umpire the World Series
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Speaker 3: as well, so you can get the DS, the CS,
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Speaker 3: the wild Card, whatever, and the more games you get
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Speaker 3: in my opinion that they should make more money. Correct,
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Speaker 3: So if they are the better at the umpires, they
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Speaker 3: should get to umpire every single round of the playoffs,
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Speaker 3: so we have the best at the best on the
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Speaker 3: stage when it matters most.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I might go as far as saying I think
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Speaker 1: you should lose your job. I get why you would
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Speaker 1: stop short of it, but I almost think halfway through
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Speaker 1: the season, if you have the worst, you know statistics,
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Speaker 1: you're gone, and we'll replace you to somebody else. And
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Speaker 1: then we get to the end of the year. If
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Speaker 1: you're the bottom three, you're gone. I think there's not
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Speaker 1: nearly enough overturn at that job. That's a high paying job,
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Speaker 1: and that there.
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Speaker 4: Should be a the motion. Maybe it's the emotion system.
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Speaker 3: Maybe you get back down, you get relegated, you get
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Speaker 3: relegated back to triple a free year, then you have
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Speaker 3: to beat a certain threshold to get back to the
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Speaker 3: major League. Maybe there is something like that that happens,
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Speaker 3: but it's it's gonna be really hard to hide with
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Speaker 3: the new systems they put in place to Yes.
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Speaker 1: Ryan Healy is with us here on Chucking Buck in
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Speaker 1: the morning, No Bucky, but we do have one former
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Speaker 1: Mariner with us here to talk to Mariners baseball. Let's say,
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Speaker 1: let's go from Sunday night back with the Mariners and
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Speaker 1: start with the most positive thing that we saw all
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Speaker 1: weekend long, not just a lopsided eight nothing victory, but
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Speaker 1: Emerson Hancock looking as good as any pitcher in the
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Speaker 1: world this weekend. What was your reaction to him.
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Speaker 3: That's what we saw all spring training. Maybe not the
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Speaker 3: no hits through six innings and the nine punch outs.
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Speaker 4: But the stuff, the.
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Speaker 3: Stuff was there all spring, the velocity, the ability to
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Speaker 3: mix both fastballs, the four seemed to the top of
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Speaker 3: the zone. The two seam he threw a couple two
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Speaker 3: seamers at the front hip. It's a left handed heavy
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Speaker 3: lineup of the Guardians there, and he threw a lot
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Speaker 3: of two seamers kind of to the front hip to
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Speaker 3: catch the inside corner against the left handed hitters. That
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Speaker 3: was tremendous. The sweeper was tremendous as well. He threw
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Speaker 3: he threw one that crossed up Cal that I don't
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Speaker 3: know how Cal caught. Actually it was a swing and
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Speaker 3: mint strike three and Cal kind of flipped across his
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Speaker 3: body to catch it. That pitch had such a late
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Speaker 3: moving on it, but it was It was really impressive
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Speaker 3: to watch him fill the strikes up with the conviction.
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Speaker 3: And honestly, if I had two fastballs that were running
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Speaker 3: up to ninety six to ninety eight miles an hour,
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Speaker 3: maybe I fiel those on up like that too.
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Speaker 4: But that was really encouraging to see from arioners fands.
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Speaker 1: I mean it's one start. I mean, you can't get
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Speaker 1: shorter sampled than one day. I was really on my game.
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Speaker 1: But we all know the talent that he has, and
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Speaker 1: we all know how hard he's been working behind the
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Speaker 1: scenes to kind of crack this rotation, and yet there's
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Speaker 1: just not any room for him when everybody's healthy. They've
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Speaker 1: just outperformed him to this station in his career. So
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Speaker 1: I want to get too far ahead. But if what
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Speaker 1: we saw is real, mean, Ryan, do you entertain a
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Speaker 1: six man rotation? What might that do to the other
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Speaker 1: five guys if you tried to force Emmerson into this rotation,
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Speaker 1: Because frankly, you can't imagine not seeing him part of
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Speaker 1: this team.
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Speaker 3: I woke up racking my brain about a million different scenarios,
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Speaker 3: and the six man rotation was one of the thoughts.
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Speaker 3: Especially with the help of this rotation being such a
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Speaker 3: achilles heel of this team to the course of twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty six season. I don't know what that does to
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Speaker 3: the other pitchers, if they're so used to every fifth
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Speaker 3: day that that would throw them off and create problems.
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Speaker 3: The challenge here, too, is we know Emerson's gonna get
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Speaker 3: plenty of starts for the course of the year, there
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Speaker 3: will be guys that need a blow maybe they go
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Speaker 3: on the ten to fifteen da ail just to get
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Speaker 3: a rest and he comes up. But does the sporadic
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Speaker 3: and the inconsistency of Emerson Hancock starts, Does that do
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Speaker 3: him a disservice? Does that get him out of his rhythm?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Certainly there's going up and down between double A or
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Speaker 3: triple A and the big leagues do him a disservice?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Probably, even the bullpen is starting rotation. It's tough because
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Speaker 3: of the spot he's in. This is a problem the
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Speaker 3: Mariners want to have, not a problem that Emerson Hancock
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Speaker 3: wants to have because he wants to be an every
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Speaker 3: fifth starter.
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Speaker 4: I get that.
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Speaker 3: What would make the most sense for me at this
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Speaker 3: point is maybe run a six man out there for
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Speaker 3: a few months and let's see who can separate themselves.
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Speaker 3: You can't trade him. You really can't get rid of
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Speaker 3: that type of depth. You need that starting pitching depth
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Speaker 3: throughout the course of the season. So what I the
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Speaker 3: hope happens is that he continues throwing really well. I
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Speaker 3: hope the other starters continue throwing really well, and then
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Speaker 3: they can make that hard choice when bryceon Miller's ready
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Speaker 3: to come.
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Speaker 1: Back based on what you know about pictures. Is it
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Speaker 1: harder to insert somebody and lengthen and mess with everybody's
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Speaker 1: routine and go from a five to a six which
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Speaker 1: they're not accustomed to, or do you think it would
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Speaker 1: be more difficult to commit to the six and then
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Speaker 1: you do have an injury and then you got to
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Speaker 1: put people back into a five later on down the
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Speaker 1: road because now you don't have the luxury of six
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Speaker 1: starting pitchers that you trust. Now do you then go
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Speaker 1: back to the five after you've already committed to the
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Speaker 1: six midway through the year.
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Speaker 4: That's a great question.
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Speaker 3: I think the transition to the six man would be
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Speaker 3: a challenge because every single starting picture would have to
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Speaker 3: change something in their routine. They wouldn't throw extra bullpens
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Speaker 3: in between those starts, because that's the most weird tear
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Speaker 3: in your arm, in between the actual pitching and the life. Now,
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Speaker 3: maybe there's something they can do in between to keep
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Speaker 3: themselves sharp. And then obviously, if you have to condense
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Speaker 3: that routine right back, you'd have to figure out what
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Speaker 3: is that extra day that I'm doing? What work am
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Speaker 3: I going to do in that extra day? That can
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Speaker 3: be removed? But these pictures are such creature as habits
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Speaker 3: because they have to be. They have the most consistency
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Speaker 3: with all of their schedules for the course of the season.
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Speaker 3: Position players were reacting and responding to everything day to day.
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Speaker 3: The pitchers know exactly what's coming the moment they step
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Speaker 3: off that mound. They know what they're doing every single
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Speaker 3: day between the next start. How much would that extra
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Speaker 3: day of rest really throw a kink in the armor here?
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Speaker 3: I don't know, and I don't want to affect an
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Speaker 3: entire pitching staff to accommodate one young arm that is
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Speaker 3: showing some promise, And that's gonna have to be a
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Speaker 3: large group conversation, in my opinion, where the front office
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Speaker 3: coaching staff goes to these pictures and ask them who
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Speaker 3: would be willing or how would we attack this and
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Speaker 3: make sure everyone's on the same page.
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Speaker 1: Not to mention their golf games. I mean, they could
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Speaker 1: be completely thrown off in between starts.
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Speaker 4: They might be able to pay more golf. Maybe that's
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Speaker 4: the trick here.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, more reps, more reps, that's what you need. Ryan
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Speaker 1: Healy is with us right here on chugging back talking
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Speaker 1: to Mariners Baseball. Brendan Donovan was terrific this weekend. I
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Speaker 1: mean in every aspect of the game, but he did
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Speaker 1: have one crazy throw at an inopportune time that might
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Speaker 1: have been the difference in winning and losing a game
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Speaker 1: that you ultimately lost. Brendan told me personally, told Bucky
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Speaker 1: and I personally in our interview with him, But this
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Speaker 1: was at the beginning of spring training. He's like, I
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Speaker 1: don't I can't tell you that I'm one hundred percent
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Speaker 1: comfortable as somebody that's been a utility player in the
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Speaker 1: last few years of everyday third base. There's still some
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Speaker 1: things that I'm being challenged with. Hopefully I'm okay by
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Speaker 1: opening day as somebody that played third base. Is that
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Speaker 1: one of the most difficult plays if you're not one
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Speaker 1: hundred percent comfortable at third base, charging bare handing, trying
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Speaker 1: to get a speedy guy down the line while knowing
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Speaker 1: that there's somebody running to third behind you. Is that
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Speaker 1: about his challenging a play you can get.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would put that up on the list. And
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Speaker 3: you think about a guy like Kyle Seeger. He made
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Speaker 3: that play look so easy for so long. He was
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Speaker 3: really comfortable throwing from a lot of different arm angles,
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Speaker 3: and the misses were a lot smaller. Obviously, Brendan's miss
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Speaker 3: was honestly way glove side, so to Nailer's left hand
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Speaker 3: side and just kind of went to no man's land
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Speaker 3: in the outfield that I would always miss up the
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Speaker 3: line where the runner in the first base when we're colliding.
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Speaker 3: Both of those misses are dangerous. I actually think that
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Speaker 3: Brendan Donovan's miss was the better of the two because
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Speaker 3: at least you're keeping your first basement safe. But when
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Speaker 3: you're running in that hard towards the baseball, your body's
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Speaker 3: out of control. You really can't see what's happening out
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Speaker 3: of your peripherals with the runners. So how far from
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Speaker 3: the base he is. What a chance at this play?
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Speaker 3: It's really just a reaction play. Once you commit to it,
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Speaker 3: he'll get more comfortable, Like there's a lot of opportunities
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Speaker 3: and to play like that for like a pump fake
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Speaker 3: and then check the runner behind you, especially if you
13:55
Speaker 3: do have a trail runner at your back, and maybe
13:57
Speaker 3: you can have a short stop back and you up
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Speaker 3: and you can make a baseball play there. But he'll
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Speaker 3: get more comfortable with that early on the season though,
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Speaker 3: that's just going to be a full send. Let me
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Speaker 3: just give it everything I have and try to just
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Speaker 3: minimize my misses.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he was gonna get him even
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Speaker 1: if he made a good throw, really fast hitter with
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Speaker 1: a really good bunt right there. So otherwise though, he
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Speaker 1: was about perfect. I mean, he was everything you hope
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Speaker 1: Brendan Donovan would be. What did you make of his
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Speaker 1: approach at the plate?
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Speaker 3: He was covering the top of the zone a lot
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Speaker 3: better than I anticipated in a game right now when
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Speaker 3: vertical break meaning fastballs that are pretty much rising up
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Speaker 3: through the strike zone beat a lot of hitters. He
14:36
Speaker 3: hit two of those for home runs this weekend. That
14:38
Speaker 3: was really impressive. He has a very short impact approach.
14:42
Speaker 3: He's not trying to do too much. Even though he
14:43
Speaker 3: hit two home runs this weekend. He is able to
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Speaker 3: work the tough at bat though, and I think that's
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Speaker 3: what the Mariners needed at the top of their line
14:50
Speaker 3: up to be the tone setter. He's going to be
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Speaker 3: a tough out and for a lineup that doesn't have
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Speaker 3: everyone clicking on all cylinders just yet, there's a lot
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Speaker 3: of guys that are shining and he is at the
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Speaker 3: top of that list.
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Speaker 1: Well. Three for forty five with nineteen strikeouts from arguably
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Speaker 1: your three best hitters on opening weekend, Cal, Julio, and Josh,
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Speaker 1: who all were in the WBC together. Ashley and I
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Speaker 1: discussed this a little bit earlier in the show. Just
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Speaker 1: coincidence or did the WBC screw up our best hitters
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Speaker 1: to start the season.
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Speaker 3: Ryan, I think it's a coincidence because I actually thought
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Speaker 3: that Julia looked pretty good at the WBC, so his
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Speaker 3: slower start is surprising. It's such a small sample size.
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Speaker 3: It's less than twenty eight bats for a lot of
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Speaker 3: these guys. You gotta think about this. Each player, each
15:34
Speaker 3: hitter has their own kind of formula for how many
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Speaker 3: bats they need to feel game ready, feel locked. In
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Speaker 3: mid season four, it took me about fifty at bats
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Speaker 3: to feel good. So if we're talking about fifteen to
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Speaker 3: twentieth bats so far, we still got a little bit
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Speaker 3: of waste to go. Cal got I think twelve during
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Speaker 3: the WBC, and those were scattered and sporadic, and then
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Speaker 3: crammed as many as he could when he came back
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Speaker 3: on the minor league side in the major league side,
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Speaker 3: and we saw how those won as well.
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Speaker 4: He actually looked a little bit better this weekend.
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Speaker 3: He was starting to get to fastballs at the top
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Speaker 3: of the zone, maybe not driving them, but at least
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Speaker 3: putting barrel on them. He was getting pitched really tough,
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Speaker 3: but you can when you miss your pitch early in counts,
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Speaker 3: meaning you foul them off for swinging miss it's deflating
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Speaker 3: as a hitter. So then you get to a two
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Speaker 3: strike a count, you start nibbling, you start battling, you're
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Speaker 3: spoiling tough pitches. Hitting becomes really hard when you can't
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Speaker 3: hit your pitch. Julio looks like he's just not seeing it. Great,
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Speaker 3: that will get better. But the fact that this team
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Speaker 3: quite frankly, could have won all four of those games
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Speaker 3: without those players clicking, it's gonna be a pretty good year.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. Ryan Healey, our guest here on Chuck
16:37
Speaker 1: them back in the mornings Yankees Tonight. Another thing I
16:40
Speaker 1: said earlier in the show is this is not the
16:42
Speaker 1: typical Yankees are in town, time to measure ourselves against
16:47
Speaker 1: one of the best in the game. I will say
16:49
Speaker 1: the Yankees are in town, their chance to measure themselves
16:53
Speaker 1: against one of the best in the game. So the
16:56
Speaker 1: shoes on the other foot here tonight. As far as
16:58
Speaker 1: I'm concerned, heally and not the normal Oh here come
17:02
Speaker 1: the Bronx bombers. I think it's them that needs to
17:05
Speaker 1: be worried about being as good as the Mariners this year.
17:09
Speaker 3: Well, I can't say what I want to say on
17:10
Speaker 3: the radio because there's a curse word involved, But it's
17:13
Speaker 3: usually oh boy or oh something. If you're scared, it's
17:17
Speaker 3: gonna be oh something. You guys can insert that you
17:19
Speaker 3: want there. But the oh boy mentality bringing up New
17:22
Speaker 3: York Yankees this early in the season, Oh boy, let's
17:24
Speaker 3: go bring them on.
17:25
Speaker 4: We're ready to compete.
17:26
Speaker 3: And I think the clubhouse feels this way, the Sydney
17:29
Speaker 3: feels this way, the fan feel this way, and I'm
17:31
Speaker 3: just excited to watch.
17:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you were meaning f the Yankees. I
17:34
Speaker 1: thought that's what you were wanting to say.
17:39
Speaker 5: He's just shaking. You have the button, give the button,
17:44
Speaker 5: ready to go test. That would have been great his
17:48
Speaker 5: second appearance of the year.
17:49
Speaker 1: He's just like rips off a the Yankees.
17:53
Speaker 2: He'd be the listener favorite for the rest of his life.
17:59
Speaker 1: So Luis Castillo gets the start tonight against the Yankees.
18:03
Speaker 1: The old Man of the group. You know, there are
18:06
Speaker 1: people that still say he's got the best stuff in
18:08
Speaker 1: the rotation, which is quite the compliment considering his peers.
18:12
Speaker 1: Does Louis Castillo have it in him to be great again?
18:16
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's been great the last couple
18:18
Speaker 1: of years. He's been good, but does he ever in
18:21
Speaker 1: him to be great again?
18:23
Speaker 4: Do we need Luis Castile to be great?
18:26
Speaker 2: No?
18:26
Speaker 3: Or do we need him to just kind of be
18:29
Speaker 3: who he's been for his entire career. He's had some
18:31
Speaker 3: tremendous years, No doubt his stuff plays, though I'm excited
18:35
Speaker 3: to see what the pitch repertoire looks like this year.
18:37
Speaker 3: He's kind of evolved the last few years of being
18:39
Speaker 3: less of a sinker slid guy, have more of a foreseen,
18:42
Speaker 3: change up guy. So how he's going to attack this
18:45
Speaker 3: Yankees lineup would be really important. I didn't get to
18:48
Speaker 3: see him throw much in Springs, so I'm not sure
18:50
Speaker 3: how the stuff looks, how the arm is come into
18:52
Speaker 3: velocity in shape, But based off of what I'm seeing
18:55
Speaker 3: from the rest of the pitching staff, I have no
18:57
Speaker 3: reason to believe that Louis Castillo won't be in simpler
18:59
Speaker 3: for him.
19:00
Speaker 1: All right, well four games under our belts, two and
19:03
Speaker 1: two against a pretty good Cleveland team, as you mentioned,
19:05
Speaker 1: could have won all four. You know, well, give me
19:08
Speaker 1: something to you that stood out, like, boy, that looks good? Uh?
19:12
Speaker 1: And then maybe if there is anything that's negative about
19:17
Speaker 1: the weekend, what might that be?
19:20
Speaker 3: H what's really good is Brendan Donnovan's real Okay, the
19:23
Speaker 3: bottom of that lineup is going to produce. Cole Young
19:27
Speaker 3: is going to continue to get better.
19:28
Speaker 1: Nice.
19:29
Speaker 3: I actually called his three run home run on Friday.
19:32
Speaker 3: I was sitting there watching the game. We had this
19:34
Speaker 3: couple of friends over for dinner. I was like, you
19:35
Speaker 3: want to see a three run homer, and he literally
19:37
Speaker 3: went wack. I just saw it, took it, saw some
19:40
Speaker 3: better swings, and after watching him in spring training and
19:42
Speaker 3: knew he was going to click a guy like Luke Raley.
19:46
Speaker 3: Luke Raley looks really, really good. I'm excited to see
19:49
Speaker 3: how the back of the bullpen shapes up. Obviously we saw,
19:52
Speaker 3: you know, gave Spier didn't have the best showing. I
19:54
Speaker 3: think that was just a baseball moment, and Muno just
19:57
Speaker 3: gave up to the home run at the latter h
19:59
Speaker 3: that back in that bullpen's really gonna shape out. Bizardo
20:02
Speaker 3: looked really, really good. We were missing Vargas in one
20:05
Speaker 3: of those games. It would have been nice to have
20:07
Speaker 3: him for down, down one ty or tie game, to
20:11
Speaker 3: have that electric electric stuff come in.
20:13
Speaker 4: There so many positives. Yeah, starting pitching is really good.
20:17
Speaker 3: The offenses, as advertised, will continue to get better, and
20:20
Speaker 3: our bullpen, I think, is only going to improve as well.
20:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got Chase the Laudard a couple of games. Otherwise, great,
20:27
Speaker 1: solid weekend. Not a great Weegan, I'll take it two
20:30
Speaker 1: and two when your three best hitters aren't producing. Not bad.
20:35
Speaker 1: Not a bad start. Could be better, not a bad start,
20:39
Speaker 1: could be worse, could be a lot worse. All right, man,
20:41
Speaker 1: great to see you, Thank you very much. We appreciate
20:44
Speaker 1: great stuff as always, and we'll do it again next week.
20:47
Speaker 4: Can't wait, all right?
20:48
Speaker 1: Ryan Aley joining us right here on Chuck and Buck
20:51
Speaker 1: as Yes, very happy to have him on board for
20:54
Speaker 1: an entire season. We had Ryan in the postseason a
20:58
Speaker 1: year ago, but great stuff out of him today. Coming
21:01
Speaker 1: up next NBA expansion and whether or not the NBA
21:06
Speaker 1: will loosen its rules when the Sonics get here. Sports
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Speaker 1: Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM. I don't know
21:22
Speaker 1: what she's saying.
21:23
Speaker 6: I have no clue, no clue.
21:26
Speaker 1: It's Chuck Powell, it's Ashley Ryan, no Bucky Jacobson. Here
21:30
Speaker 1: today as we guide you through this Monday morning, we're
21:33
Speaker 1: nearly to the finish line. But to man, we're just
21:36
Speaker 1: getting started here. We got the month of April coming up,
21:39
Speaker 1: and April is just the best month for sports that
21:43
Speaker 1: there is. I mean, we got baseball fully underway. We
21:48
Speaker 1: got NBA Playoffs starting in a couple of weeks, NHL
21:51
Speaker 1: Playoffs starting in a couple of weeks, the final four
21:54
Speaker 1: will be held this Saturday, plus the National Championship Game
21:58
Speaker 1: in college basketball. We got the sound underwe I mean, basically,
22:01
Speaker 1: there's every excuse in the world to head to tu
22:04
Speaker 1: Laylap Resort Casino, hang out at the Draftking Sports Book,
22:08
Speaker 1: and just make that your hub for the month of April.
22:11
Speaker 1: It's Toll April.
22:12
Speaker 6: To love celebrating Toll April.
22:15
Speaker 2: And you could bet on the Masters too, because that's
22:17
Speaker 2: coming up. I actually confuse the Master's weekend with Easter weekend.
22:21
Speaker 2: Somebody was asking me, what are you doing for Easter?
22:23
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I haven't figured that out yet.
22:25
Speaker 2: It's not till the twelfth. They're like, no, it's the fifth.
22:28
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, oh is it?
22:30
Speaker 1: Yeah?
22:31
Speaker 6: I was really looking forward to the twelfth. Oh, because
22:34
Speaker 6: it's Masters Sunday. God, That's why I had that one
22:37
Speaker 6: in my head.
22:39
Speaker 1: Easter. See, I'm telling you, April is just so loaded
22:42
Speaker 1: with great stuff. Toll April you can just watch all
22:45
Speaker 1: the great sports in the world, celebrate Draft miss and
22:49
Speaker 1: eat jelly beans at your whim. Come on now, I.
22:53
Speaker 6: Bet there's some Easter magic happening at tulalap.
22:56
Speaker 1: Toll April is the time to be resort casino and
23:02
Speaker 1: it is a phenomenal month. My goodness. You know, I
23:04
Speaker 1: never even associate golf with gambling, and yet it's like
23:08
Speaker 1: the most highly highly increase. Like a friend of mine
23:12
Speaker 1: just semi text like who do you like and Masters
23:15
Speaker 1: or something like that. I don't even think I responded
23:17
Speaker 1: to that. By the way, I don't even really associate gambling,
23:20
Speaker 1: but it is like exploded our friend Brady Cannon, like
23:24
Speaker 1: people just can't get enough of gambling on golfing.
23:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to get to talk to him soon.
23:28
Speaker 2: I play fantasy golf every years it's a blast.
23:31
Speaker 1: Have you had your draft yet?
23:33
Speaker 2: Well, so for fantasy golf, we pick one person each week.
23:36
Speaker 2: You just can't use the same golfer.
23:37
Speaker 1: Oh that's right.
23:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I trying really hard to not use any
23:41
Speaker 2: of the big names.
23:42
Speaker 1: Who gets the How do you determine who gets the
23:44
Speaker 1: first pick? And full everybody?
23:46
Speaker 6: People can use the same one. It doesn't matter.
23:49
Speaker 2: You don't know who anyone has picked it until the
23:50
Speaker 2: tournament starts. Then you find out who they've picked, so
23:53
Speaker 2: they can't strapp. But you can see who people have
23:55
Speaker 2: used in the past, so you can kind of think, oh, well,
23:57
Speaker 2: less people are likely to use this person.
23:59
Speaker 6: I just go on a whims I'm not great at it.
24:03
Speaker 1: This is your year, this is your year. You practice,
24:05
Speaker 1: you think that, yeah, it is Also that could be
24:09
Speaker 1: the year where we find out that the Sonics are
24:11
Speaker 1: making their return to Seattle. Of course, we know the
24:14
Speaker 1: big story from a week ago, and now you know,
24:18
Speaker 1: the dust settles a little bit. We can't get too
24:21
Speaker 1: far ahead of ourselves, certainly, we can't start putting together
24:25
Speaker 1: plans for expansion picks and which draft are we going
24:29
Speaker 1: to be a part of. I mean, I'll think about
24:31
Speaker 1: that stuff earlier than most. But we're just we're not there.
24:34
Speaker 1: We're going to need a little more concrete idea as
24:37
Speaker 1: to whether or not we're going to actually get basketball.
24:40
Speaker 1: But I did have an interesting conversation. You know, I've
24:42
Speaker 1: mentioned this couple of times. Have this group of buddies
24:45
Speaker 1: we get together every year and one of them does
24:47
Speaker 1: sports talk radio in Las Vegas. And so the moment
24:51
Speaker 1: I walked through the doors, he's like, so we're now rivals.
24:56
Speaker 1: And I didn't know what he was talking about, and
24:58
Speaker 1: he's like, well, are going to get in expansion, both
25:02
Speaker 1: Vegas and Seattle, and so we have to be rivals
25:05
Speaker 1: now from this point forward. Or he actually may have
25:07
Speaker 1: said it the other way. He said we're brothers or
25:09
Speaker 1: something like that. All right, where I think I started
25:12
Speaker 1: the No, I think we're more rivals than we are brothers.
25:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could be brothers for a little bit till
25:18
Speaker 2: you both get good and then you want to beat
25:21
Speaker 2: up on your brother.
25:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, it'll be interesting to see the relationship
25:25
Speaker 1: if in fact this happens between the Sonics and whatever
25:28
Speaker 1: the Vegas team is called, Scorpions. It sounds like it.
25:34
Speaker 1: But another thing that he he we ended up because
25:38
Speaker 1: we're sports talk show hosts. We had got in the
25:39
Speaker 1: weeds about how we want to see it go down,
25:42
Speaker 1: and he said, well, what do you want the expansion
25:45
Speaker 1: rules to be? And I'm like, uh, I don't think
25:48
Speaker 1: it can be as strict as in the past. I
25:50
Speaker 1: think that they should be allowed to keep one less.
25:52
Speaker 1: So instead of eight at seven, he goes, nope, six.
25:56
Speaker 6: Oh, he took it one further.
25:57
Speaker 1: He took it further and then he sticked and he said,
26:00
Speaker 1: and I'll take it. I'll tell you about the draft.
26:02
Speaker 1: I think that each team should get the top two
26:07
Speaker 1: picks for each of the first two years, because it
26:10
Speaker 1: used to be in the NBA an expansion team. I mean,
26:13
Speaker 1: once upon a time they would get like the last
26:16
Speaker 1: pick beyond the lottery that would be their first pick
26:18
Speaker 1: in the league. So the lottery teams would go and
26:20
Speaker 1: then they would insert the two expansion franchises in those spots.
26:24
Speaker 1: With the Charlotte Bobcats, they were prohibited from getting a
26:28
Speaker 1: top three pick, but they did get the fourth pick
26:32
Speaker 1: in the draft, and I think they did that with
26:34
Speaker 1: the two previous teams before that that they got fourth
26:38
Speaker 1: and fifth, but they weren't allowed to touch the top
26:41
Speaker 1: three for a couple of years. And his argument was
26:45
Speaker 1: ten billion dollar franchise tags. Potentially, Hey, who wants to
26:50
Speaker 1: invest that much money in a league where it's hard
26:52
Speaker 1: to get off the ground, Like, no, ten billion dollars,
26:58
Speaker 1: they better change the rules so that they can sync
27:01
Speaker 1: their teeth into the Vegas basketball fan and so that
27:05
Speaker 1: the Sonics fan who's already been tortured doesn't have to
27:09
Speaker 1: wait another fifteen years to be relevant like the Charlotte Bobcats.
27:13
Speaker 1: Charlotte Bobcats have been back in exist sence twenty years.
27:16
Speaker 1: They've been irrelevant the entire time, and they even changed
27:20
Speaker 1: their name. Their name even failed as they changed it
27:23
Speaker 1: back to the Hornets to try to get Hornets old
27:26
Speaker 1: Hornets fans to come out and watch the games again
27:29
Speaker 1: because nobody really attached or latched onto the Bobcats. They
27:33
Speaker 1: weren't good enough. They were never compelling, they were never interesting.
27:36
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know what, that's a really good
27:38
Speaker 1: argument that if you're gonna invest that much and you're
27:42
Speaker 1: gonna have a new fan base, and then you're gonna
27:44
Speaker 1: have a jilted fan base that you're gonna have to
27:47
Speaker 1: win over, win back over, again in some cases, then
27:50
Speaker 1: why put the two teams in such a big hole
27:54
Speaker 1: ten billion dollars. Yeah, maybe that is a good idea.
27:58
Speaker 1: That you only get to protect six and the expansion process,
28:01
Speaker 1: and then in the actual NBA draft, you're guaranteed a
28:05
Speaker 1: top two picks two years in a row. You have
28:07
Speaker 1: a coin toss and the winning team gets to choose
28:10
Speaker 1: which year they want to be number one, and then
28:13
Speaker 1: the other team gets to be number two. So that's
28:15
Speaker 1: already just ingrained in the process. The first two years,
28:19
Speaker 1: Vegas and Seattle get the top two picks in each
28:22
Speaker 1: of those drafts. I don't think that they'll do that,
28:25
Speaker 1: but I think there's a lot of merit to the
28:27
Speaker 1: point of asking for it. Oh.
28:29
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you kind of, at the same time accidentally
28:32
Speaker 2: help your tanking issue because people then would be tanking
28:35
Speaker 2: for the third pick, which isn't as glamorous as tanking
28:37
Speaker 2: for the first or a couple of years.
28:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, buys you a little tank.
28:40
Speaker 6: Time, little tank time, tank time out.
28:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, I might as well put on your tank top,
28:44
Speaker 1: Adam Silver, enjoy a little tank time.
28:47
Speaker 6: There you go. So you're helping everybody, right.
28:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, while they're trying to sift through how to manage tanking,
28:54
Speaker 1: which you add two more teams that if you're going
28:57
Speaker 1: to make them bad for years right off the bat,
29:00
Speaker 1: now you're introduced more risk for tanking. I do believe
29:05
Speaker 1: that the expansion will have nothing to do with the
29:08
Speaker 1: tanking rules, because I don't think this is a band
29:11
Speaker 1: aid situation. I think it's a surgery situation. I think
29:14
Speaker 1: that the NBA has to completely blow up. And from
29:18
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing, they're going to, like Adam Silver can say,
29:22
Speaker 1: please don't focus on the tanking issue. We're looking into it.
29:26
Speaker 1: But behind the scenes, from what I'm hearing, they're saying, no, no, no, no, no,
29:30
Speaker 1: We're going to do something drastic. I am tired of
29:33
Speaker 1: answering questions about tanking in my league, and so I
29:37
Speaker 1: think they're going to do something drastic to reward the
29:40
Speaker 1: top picks, not to the worst teams in the national basket.
29:44
Speaker 1: I think the lottery's going to be done with, Thank goodness, Yeah,
29:48
Speaker 1: get rid of it.
29:48
Speaker 2: I mean it's either I mean a lot of people,
29:52
Speaker 2: not just you think that it's fixed in some way, yeah,
29:55
Speaker 2: and I just an or else you have people tanking
29:58
Speaker 2: to try to I mean none of it's seems like
30:00
Speaker 2: it's working the way that they're doing it.
30:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get rid of things like we think you're
30:05
Speaker 1: rigging that.
30:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, if that's a thought we've already said for years,
30:09
Speaker 2: come up with a different plan, because whatever you're doing
30:12
Speaker 2: isn't convincing people that it's not rigged.
30:14
Speaker 1: Now. I don't want to wait eighteen years and then
30:16
Speaker 1: for the first five I don't want, not me. I
30:19
Speaker 1: don't want this fan base to have waited eighteen years
30:22
Speaker 1: to get the Sonics back and then they have to
30:25
Speaker 1: root for tanking.
30:26
Speaker 4: Yeah.
30:27
Speaker 1: I mean, who wants to start their restart their fandom
30:30
Speaker 1: for the NBA hoping my team can be as bad
30:34
Speaker 1: as possible for the first five years so that we
30:37
Speaker 1: can load up on draft picks. That's no way to
30:39
Speaker 1: approach it. So fix your tanking issue by doing something drastic.
30:43
Speaker 1: And I agree with my buddy Steve, like, hey, new World,
30:48
Speaker 1: New Era, the Las Vegas Golden Knights are off to
30:51
Speaker 1: a heck of a start. Their fans did not have
30:55
Speaker 1: to suffer through they could have. They still could have. Yeah,
30:58
Speaker 1: they didn't have to suffer through ten years of losing
31:01
Speaker 1: before they were relevant. Even the Kraken. We didn't suffer
31:06
Speaker 1: through the typical horrible period. I mean, I know they've
31:10
Speaker 1: only made the playoffs once, but they've been competitive since
31:14
Speaker 1: they first took the ice. Yeah, and it's because they
31:17
Speaker 1: adjusted some of the rules. And I think the NBA
31:19
Speaker 1: should learn its lesson from the Charlotte Bobcats not put
31:22
Speaker 1: either new expansion franchise through that. Again, where the Bobcats
31:27
Speaker 1: are at two decades still without really being interesting, still
31:31
Speaker 1: have don't on a playoff series two decades into it
31:34
Speaker 1: and give them a little bit of a bump, a
31:37
Speaker 1: little bit of a start. And I like both of
31:39
Speaker 1: those ideas. Spansion goes from you get to protect eight
31:42
Speaker 1: till you get to protect six. And the draft picks. Yes,
31:45
Speaker 1: for the first two years of their existence, they get
31:48
Speaker 1: the top two picks in each of the drafts and
31:50
Speaker 1: they flip flop the year after.
31:53
Speaker 2: In order you're gonna get fans real interested in Yeah,
31:57
Speaker 2: with those two drafts too.
31:58
Speaker 1: You get to the top. We had one of the
32:00
Speaker 1: top two eighteen nineteen year olds to build around. Now
32:04
Speaker 1: you've got a foundation, and even if you don't win
32:05
Speaker 1: for a little while, you're on the ground floor knowing
32:09
Speaker 1: we got two young, special, potentially special players to build around,
32:13
Speaker 1: and we can start identifying with them. We can go
32:15
Speaker 1: ahead and buy their jerseys even though they're eighteen nineteen
32:18
Speaker 1: years old. We can grow along with them as an
32:21
Speaker 1: expansion franchise. I thought it was an excellent idea from
32:24
Speaker 1: a source that typically doesn't come up with.
32:27
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you get a couple drinks in him,
32:28
Speaker 2: and I think, yeah, you'd.
32:30
Speaker 1: Get those, different, buddy, Yeah, different buddy, Yeah.
32:32
Speaker 4: You get those.
32:33
Speaker 6: Those two players are a couple, a couple good draft picks.
32:36
Speaker 2: You mix that with Kevin Durant and SGA and GP
32:39
Speaker 2: Junior and we're in a good player.
32:40
Speaker 1: And Wimby Yeah, mamby, don't forget suddenly we got something cooking.
32:43
Speaker 6: Something we might be Suddenly we might be working.
32:45
Speaker 1: On something, all right, One last thing to close out
32:47
Speaker 1: this Monday edition of Chuck and Box Sports Radio ninety
32:49
Speaker 1: three point three KJRFM, right final segment here of this
33:03
Speaker 1: Monday edition of Chuck and Buck in the morning's Ashley
33:06
Speaker 1: and I, So only two people to go around the
33:08
Speaker 1: room with for one last thing. What do you got
33:11
Speaker 1: back there?
33:12
Speaker 2: Well, I figured out how the Dodgers are gonna make
33:14
Speaker 2: all the money to pay all their players. Did you
33:17
Speaker 2: see that they're charging seventy five dollars for a show? Hey,
33:20
Speaker 2: Otani souvenir cup, limited edition souvenir cup that you get
33:24
Speaker 2: at the ballpark and you can refill it with soda
33:28
Speaker 2: all day long while you're at the bar ballpark that day.
33:31
Speaker 6: And that's it it.
33:35
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I got to give him a
33:36
Speaker 1: little bit of credit for being able to read the
33:40
Speaker 1: global market. Oh yeah, they because they are. No, no, no,
33:45
Speaker 1: not him, that was obvious. I'm not giving me any
33:47
Speaker 1: credit for that. Everybody knew that. I'm just saying what
33:50
Speaker 1: they've been able to tap into financially, Like, apparently they
33:54
Speaker 1: are making just money handover fist in Japan because they
33:59
Speaker 1: have Showtani and that apparently is the revenue source that
34:03
Speaker 1: they don't care that they're kicking the can down the
34:06
Speaker 1: road with all their Japanese players, deferring all of those
34:10
Speaker 1: payments because they can sell a show Aotani souvenir cup
34:14
Speaker 1: for seventy five dollars and hundreds of Dodger fans in
34:18
Speaker 1: Los Angeles will buy it, and apparently six million people
34:22
Speaker 1: in Japan will buy one. Yeah, for seventy five dollars.
34:25
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, I don't know how many people will actually
34:27
Speaker 2: buy it. My favorite though, was when I saw it
34:29
Speaker 2: on X guy named Bart Winkler retweeted it and said,
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Speaker 2: can you defer the payments over the next twenty years
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Speaker 2: for purchasing the seventy five dollars Otani cup? I thought
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Speaker 2: that was pretty good and and in appropriate response to it.
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Speaker 1: All right, I'll give you one dollar for that, yeah,
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Speaker 1: and then in twenty thirty I'll pay you the other
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Speaker 1: seventy four.
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Speaker 2: I think that's fair. Why can't you explore their business model?
34:53
Speaker 1: I hope it worked. Did he get it? Did he
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Speaker 1: get his cup? Uh?
34:56
Speaker 2: He did not know. I don't think he even was there.
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Speaker 2: I think he just and retweeted it.
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Speaker 1: That sounds fair to me, I think so, that's for sure.
35:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got people putting them on layaway and all
35:08
Speaker 2: sorts of things.
35:09
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, they're off to a three and oh start.
35:12
Speaker 1: By the way, they didn't have an easy time of
35:14
Speaker 1: it this weekend, but they figured out a way to
35:16
Speaker 1: win each of their.
35:16
Speaker 2: Games, which over right, when they're like, oh, the Dodgers
35:19
Speaker 2: don't really care how many they win in the regular season,
35:21
Speaker 2: I know, really rough to not care how many you
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Speaker 2: win in the regular season.
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Speaker 1: Well, I'll say that's for Rob. We don't like what
35:28
Speaker 1: he's done with our television package, but he does want
35:31
Speaker 1: to salary cap this thing up. Yeah, try to keep
35:35
Speaker 1: the Dodgers from acting like fools. I would love not fools,
35:38
Speaker 1: but because they're not foolish.
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Speaker 6: I just love the players that come out. And there
35:41
Speaker 6: are people that come out and they're like, well, this
35:43
Speaker 6: it wouldn't work.
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Speaker 2: You wouldn't It wouldn't help with competitive balance, And I'm like,
35:47
Speaker 2: works pretty well in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I definitely would help with competitive that's the
35:51
Speaker 1: whole point. Yeah.
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Speaker 6: But they're like, no, that wouldn't make a difference. I'm like, well,
35:54
Speaker 6: that's just because you don't want to have the potential
35:56
Speaker 6: to make less money.
35:57
Speaker 1: And I never wanted the salary cap and base but
36:00
Speaker 1: because the Dodgers have abused, I mean, they kind of
36:04
Speaker 1: found the loopholes.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
36:06
Speaker 1: You know, everybody you've ever been in one of those
36:09
Speaker 1: fantasy leagues where there's there's a guy every year is
36:12
Speaker 1: just trying to find the loophole, and then you've got
36:13
Speaker 1: to create another new like you know, the spirit of
36:16
Speaker 1: the rule. Yeah, like you already have advantages. We have
36:20
Speaker 1: accepted them. We realize that baseball wants the big market
36:24
Speaker 1: clubs in the playoffs more often than not. Yes, but
36:28
Speaker 1: there's still a system set up where the little guy,
36:30
Speaker 1: by doing things the right way and not trying to
36:33
Speaker 1: buy a championship, cannot just compete. But they can be
36:37
Speaker 1: better than the big boys spending all the money. But
36:40
Speaker 1: we accept that the little guy's not going to be
36:42
Speaker 1: able to do that consistently like the big boys and baseball.
36:47
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that we've accepted it as baseball fans,
36:50
Speaker 1: but we've kind of understood that that's how it operates,
36:53
Speaker 1: and there's some merit to it. But then when the
36:55
Speaker 1: big boy starts finding loopholes, he's the guy, he's loop
37:00
Speaker 1: pole guy. Yeah, to try to make them invincible, Well,
37:04
Speaker 1: then Rob Manford has no choice. Now we've got to
37:07
Speaker 1: put it in a hard, concrete way to control this,
37:11
Speaker 1: since you can't just accept the fact you're one of
37:14
Speaker 1: the big boys, you have more money than just about
37:17
Speaker 1: everybody else. You make the playoffs all the time, but
37:20
Speaker 1: you've got to stomp everyone into smithereens with these silly
37:24
Speaker 1: financial loopholes that you've found stop that, and maybe we
37:28
Speaker 1: can keep the system as we've known it over the past.
37:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then instead of all baseball fans are not all,
37:33
Speaker 2: but a lot of baseball fans.
37:34
Speaker 6: Just yell, well, just spend more money to the other teams.
37:37
Speaker 2: Well, it's not your money, first of all, so just
37:39
Speaker 2: be ordering other people to spend And it's a lot
37:41
Speaker 2: easier said than done when it's not your money.
37:43
Speaker 1: The Yankee fans are like that. Now, Yankee fans like,
37:46
Speaker 1: what chance do we have?
37:47
Speaker 6: Yees spend more money? It's like, well, second highest barrel.
37:50
Speaker 1: I think you're doing all right, you Mets Dodgers. How
37:52
Speaker 1: can we compete with that? I'm not exaggerating that. No
37:56
Speaker 1: Yankee fans professional talk show who have platform. Yankee fans
38:02
Speaker 1: say that regularly. Yep, are you out of your minds?
38:06
Speaker 1: So if Yankee fans are complaining, who do we compete?
38:10
Speaker 1: What does that say for the rest of us ninety
38:13
Speaker 1: five percent of the league? All Right? My last one
38:16
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to get to this early on the show,
38:18
Speaker 1: didn't have time. But that's why we have one last thing.
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Speaker 1: Cold Emerson playing down at Tacoma. I mean, I don't
38:26
Speaker 1: even know if we're doing the Tacoma thing this year.
38:28
Speaker 1: Yeah as a station. Haven't heard, but I've done it
38:32
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, Bucky and I and it's
38:35
Speaker 1: only I think I did three games last year. I
38:38
Speaker 1: only did like three games did the color animals. But
38:40
Speaker 1: I love my as you know, my Tacoma Rainiers days. Yeah,
38:43
Speaker 1: I just go down there. I spend the whole day
38:46
Speaker 1: down there. So I really do have an affection and
38:48
Speaker 1: affinity for Rainiers baseball and I'm always encouraging. I think
38:53
Speaker 1: the stadium is awesome, yep. I think the atmosphere is awesome.
38:57
Speaker 1: I think the merchandise is second to none that they
39:01
Speaker 1: have at Rainiers games. And it's not nearly as expensive
39:05
Speaker 1: to go to a big league game. And I'm not
39:07
Speaker 1: saying sacrifice some Mariner's time to go to Rainiers. I'm
39:10
Speaker 1: not saying that.
39:11
Speaker 6: But it's a different experience.
39:12
Speaker 1: But it is a different experience for sure. It's a
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Speaker 1: lot of fun. And now you've got Colt Emerson down
39:17
Speaker 1: there an extra incentive because this looks like the next
39:23
Speaker 1: big thing for Mariners baseball and he's just a drive away,
39:28
Speaker 1: so you can go on that same thing with you
39:29
Speaker 1: got Everett on the other side great experience.
39:31
Speaker 2: It is funny, yeah, yeah, because it's the small ballpark experience.
39:36
Speaker 6: It's not even it's just not the same thing.
39:38
Speaker 2: You are going for a different kind of game when
39:40
Speaker 2: you're going to the small ballpark.
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Speaker 1: All sorts of younger talent there. And then Emerson's playing
39:45
Speaker 1: down here at Tacoma. So if you get some time, mate,
39:49
Speaker 1: you know what, take one of those nights where there's
39:53
Speaker 1: Peacock Aaron, the Mariners. There you go and you want
39:56
Speaker 1: to watch some baseball, take a drive, go down there,
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Speaker 1: watch them Tacoma Rainiers base see Colt Emerson. Have a
40:03
Speaker 1: reasonably priced hot dog and enjoy yourself.
40:06
Speaker 6: I do love a reasonably reasonably priced hot talk.
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Speaker 1: All right, that's it for us today. We thank you
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Speaker 1: very much for joining us. We appreciate it. Uh Ashley
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Speaker 1: and I'll be back at six a m. Tomorrow morning.
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40:22
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