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Josh Allen Signed Reaction, Lageman Draft Hot Takes | Jaguars Happy Hour · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 3: It is Thursday, April eleventh. Busy hour ahead as we
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  Speaker 3: close in on the NFL Draft a couple weeks. But
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  Speaker 3: the biggest dudes of the week Josh Allen signing an
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  Speaker 3: extension with the Jaguars for big money. We'll break all
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  Speaker 4: Good afternoon, afternoon, JP. How the heck are you? I'm
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  Speaker 4: doing great, doing great?
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  Speaker 3: How long? What is the two weeks from the draft?
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  Speaker 3: Two weeks from today? Man?
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  Speaker 4: It's uh, it's that time of year coming in hot
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  Speaker 4: that time here Masters is on TV right now, Draft
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  Speaker 4: around the corner.
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  Speaker 3: It's a good time of year. Is a lot happening,
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  Speaker 3: good time of Yearly OTAs are starting up. Yes, fine, soon,
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  Speaker 3: that's good. He'll be on the field doing things. Wow,
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  Speaker 3: I met some point for the players. It's a big deal.
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  Speaker 3: It is. Yeah, I mean it's a big deal.
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  Speaker 4: I mean players come back in town working out together,
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  Speaker 4: new defensive coaching staff, new scheme to learn a lot
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  Speaker 4: of that going on. I'm sure they'll tweak some of
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  Speaker 4: the offensive stuff as well, but not as it's not
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  Speaker 4: going to be a complete overhaul of the system obviously,
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  Speaker 4: like the defensive side of the ball, that's going to
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  Speaker 4: be a lot of change, a lot of new personalities
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  Speaker 4: and some of the same.
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  Speaker 3: Guys, including a guy who just signed an extension five years.
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  Speaker 3: Reports of one hundred and forty one million dollars in
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  Speaker 3: change twenty eight point two five million dollars annually. Josh
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  Speaker 3: Allen is coming back and the number seven pick in
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  Speaker 3: the twenty nineteen NFL Draft. It's a massive amount of money.
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  Speaker 3: But he talked a lot yesterday about leaving a legacy.
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  Speaker 5: So last year bringing his single season record wasn't because
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  Speaker 5: as a contract here. Thankfully it was a contract year,
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  Speaker 5: but if it was two three years ago, I would
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  Speaker 5: have done it, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 6: But it's just figuring everything out and.
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  Speaker 5: Putting the pieces together, you know, building that confidence back
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  Speaker 5: up that I feel like I lost because I didn't
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  Speaker 5: live up to expectations that I know I could, you know.
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  Speaker 5: So it's investing in here, investing to your body a
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  Speaker 5: little bit more than what you usually do, and being
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  Speaker 5: okay with the results that come with it. So for me,
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  Speaker 5: it's too all right, that worked for me, you know,
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  Speaker 5: let me do it again and so you know, I
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  Speaker 5: found out what works for me. I find out my plan,
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  Speaker 5: I find out my schedule, and you know, again, I
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  Speaker 5: thank God every morning, every night, and before I eat
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  Speaker 5: that I'm thankful, and I am a humble servant under him,
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  Speaker 5: and my kids would be, my wife is, and my
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  Speaker 5: whole family is.
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  Speaker 3: So that's Josh Allen yesterday the full press conference on
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars dot Com. Seventeen and a half sacks in the
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  Speaker 3: contract year, of course, and now ten sacks, shy of
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  Speaker 3: tying Tony Brackens with the franchise record, Jeff Logoman, Hey
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  Speaker 3: produce at the right time, and he is here for
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  Speaker 3: a long time to come.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm excited and happy to have him just because
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  Speaker 4: he's their best pass rusher. And if you don't have
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  Speaker 4: the best pass rusher returning, then what do you do.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's like, okay, now we got to find somebody
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  Speaker 4: to replace him, and then now we got to try
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  Speaker 4: to get better around everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: Else as well.
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  Speaker 4: It's not easy to do. So glad he's back in
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  Speaker 4: the fold. Wish it had been done two years ago,
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  Speaker 4: which I could have told you two years ago that
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  Speaker 4: you want to keep this guy.
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  Speaker 3: But the production, the numbers might not have been there
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  Speaker 3: two years ago.
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  Speaker 4: You know, i'd see don I don't look at Josh
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  Speaker 4: as that kind of a guy. I don't, And I
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  Speaker 4: look at Josh as a guy who's self motivated, that's
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  Speaker 4: always going to do his best, no matter what what
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  Speaker 4: the contract situation is or anything like that. So I
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  Speaker 4: was never I would never be worried about Josh. I'm
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  Speaker 4: happy for him. It makes me wish I was twenty
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  Speaker 4: five years old again. Yeah, it makes you want to
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  Speaker 4: go stretch a little bit. Huh okay. You know, And
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  Speaker 4: the money is you know, I think it puts him,
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  Speaker 4: what done, one of the top five defensive players in
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  Speaker 4: the National Football League right now.
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  Speaker 3: It's the third largest value contract of any current NFL
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  Speaker 3: defensive player. Yeah, it is big. It's big money, and
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 4: He he kind of rolled the dice a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: He played last year and I don't want to bet
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  Speaker 4: on himself whatever you want to call it. And he
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  Speaker 4: did well, he made the plays. He had a great year.
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  Speaker 4: And I still believe that Josh was a good player
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  Speaker 4: and was having great years in great games before that.
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  Speaker 4: So but I'm happy for him. Happy he's back in
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  Speaker 4: the fall.
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  Speaker 3: He talked a lot yesterday about last year going into
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  Speaker 3: the season was the time he actually found the process
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  Speaker 3: that worked the best for him. Obviously the results were
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  Speaker 3: there during the season, but I'm going to Arizona on
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  Speaker 3: his own. Missing a lot of the offseason program and
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  Speaker 3: then just getting right mentally and physically in the off
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  Speaker 3: season set him up for success. So he found, like,
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  Speaker 3: at least he said yesterday, he felt like he's probably
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  Speaker 3: found that formula that he's going to follow moving ahead.
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  Speaker 4: And that's a good thing. And I know he also
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  Speaker 4: talked about spending the first couple of weeks of OTAs
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  Speaker 4: here in Jacksonville so that he could learn the new defense,
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  Speaker 4: you know, learn and meet these new coaches that are
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  Speaker 4: going to be on the defensive side of the ball.
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  Speaker 4: And that's smart. But I like that he's going to
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  Speaker 4: go back to Arizona where he was at. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: if it works for if it works for the guy,
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  Speaker 4: let him keep on doing it. And some coaches might
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  Speaker 4: be a little bit I guess resentful that a player
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  Speaker 4: would go and train elsewhere, but most coaches that get it,
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  Speaker 4: if that's what's going to get the best out of
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  Speaker 4: the player, then by all means go, go do your thing.
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  Speaker 4: But I will say this, as a player, you take
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  Speaker 4: that a little added risk when you're working out some else,
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  Speaker 4: because if you're working under themec here the Miller Electric
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  Speaker 4: Center and then something happens to you and you get hurt,
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  Speaker 4: it's treated a little bit differently than if you were
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  Speaker 4: somewhere else working out and had the exact same thing happen.
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  Speaker 4: So but that's good. I think that's a great plan
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  Speaker 4: by Josh. And I know Josh gave a lot of
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  Speaker 4: credit to his wife, as he should have, because here
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  Speaker 4: he is flying to Arizona at the beginning of the
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  Speaker 4: week or on Sundays and then flying back home to
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  Speaker 4: be able to spend the weekend with a family. You know,
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  Speaker 4: he's committed. I mean that commitment there is incredible. And
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  Speaker 4: he was very thankful to his wife too, and she
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  Speaker 4: supported him through this whole process, and so kudos to them.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm happy for Josh. And he's one of my favorites,
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  Speaker 4: you know, he's one of my favorites. And I love
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  Speaker 4: the guy and I love everything about him. He's a
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  Speaker 4: first class, he's a leader, and he's one of those
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  Speaker 4: guys that you always want to end up keeping him
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  Speaker 4: around because he's just a he's good for a locker room.
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  Speaker 3: He's good for the room. And he had to go
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  Speaker 3: the scenic route in his career to get to this point.
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  Speaker 3: Remember this is a long way from Abbeville, Alabama, when
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  Speaker 3: he was three years in high school there and then
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  Speaker 3: went back to New Jersey for his last year of
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  Speaker 3: high school. Was like a two or three star recruit,
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  Speaker 3: maybe a two star recruit. Didn't have any offers. He
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  Speaker 3: was going to go to I think the Monmouth and
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  Speaker 3: then Kentucky got a whiff of him because they had
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  Speaker 3: a couple of decommitments and all of a sudden, hey,
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  Speaker 3: they had a connection somehow in New Jersey and got
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  Speaker 3: to look at his tape and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: he's in Lexington, Kentucky. And he was a wide receiver
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  Speaker 3: in those years in Alabama in high school too. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that is quite a run from that point to now.
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  Speaker 3: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 4: If you go and you look at the history of
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  Speaker 4: the league and some of the great players, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of the great players have something similar to that, and
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people say, well, does that make the
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  Speaker 4: player better? I think it does because they a lot
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  Speaker 4: of players that they're not these five star athletes. Immediately
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  Speaker 4: they feel like they have to do the extra work.
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  Speaker 4: So that player learns a little bit higher level of
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  Speaker 4: work ethic and commitment and doing the extra things because
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  Speaker 4: they're not a five star recruit. They're a two star guy.
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  Speaker 4: So I think those people are wired a little bit
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  Speaker 4: differently than compared to somebody who's five star has things
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  Speaker 4: come easy. You know, runs a four to four in
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  Speaker 4: barefoot and a you know, a barred pair of shorts
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  Speaker 4: or whatever. You know, I mean effortless. You know, those
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  Speaker 4: guys typically sometimes don't. They don't have that work ethic.
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  Speaker 3: In the commitment.
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  Speaker 4: And so I mean Josh learned it, and good for him,
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  Speaker 4: and he's I don't know, I don't know if I
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  Speaker 4: know a guy that's been with the Jaguars that's worked harder.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the guy works his rear end off and
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  Speaker 4: is committed fully and fully bought in. And I know
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  Speaker 4: that Trent Balkey talked about him being a cornerstone piece.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely he is. Those are the kind of players, again,
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  Speaker 3: Shadwick with Jeff Logoman And now to the part about
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  Speaker 3: this new defense that's coming in. Ryan Nielson, of course,
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  Speaker 3: is the defensive coordinator. You know he's an edge player.
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  Speaker 3: We know that, but there were moments late last year.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't he line up inside a little bit? Or him
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  Speaker 3: and Trayvon both did? And could that be something moving forward?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe part of a package deal? How do you line
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  Speaker 3: Josh Allen up now? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I don't see him getting moved inside on a regular basis.
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  Speaker 4: I think every now and again is a kind of
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  Speaker 4: a change of pace to keep the offense and the
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  Speaker 4: offensive line a little bit lighter on their feet because
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  Speaker 4: they're not sure what's going to happen, because that's what
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  Speaker 4: happens when you move your typical edge rushers to the
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  Speaker 4: inside offensive line, like, wait a minute, what's going on here?
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  Speaker 4: And when I say lighter on their feet, I mean
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  Speaker 4: that I mean lighter on their feet because they're not
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  Speaker 4: sure what's gonna happen a little bit indecisive. So, but
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  Speaker 4: I don't see that being a mainstay of this defense
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  Speaker 4: with Ryan Nielsen. But if all of a sudden you
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  Speaker 4: find another edge rusher in the draft, Let's say you
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  Speaker 4: get Jared Versu in the draft. Okay, Florida State, tremendous player.
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  Speaker 4: I'd rather have a guy from UCLA, by the way,
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  Speaker 4: a lot too. Is that how you said pronounce it?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know you're talking about he is JP
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  Speaker 3: watching the film on that guy?
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god. I mean, I don't know. If I would,
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  Speaker 4: I would probably take him lat too, That's it. I
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  Speaker 4: would take him like the first non quarterback. I'd be
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  Speaker 4: taking that guy. Wow, he's that good.
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  Speaker 3: That good.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean, if you had let's say you added
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  Speaker 4: another edge rusher. Okay, now you can make move Trayvon
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  Speaker 4: inside a little bit. He's a little bit better suited
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  Speaker 4: to that than Josh. I think Josh is more and
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  Speaker 4: Josh is more comfortable on the right side, and so
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  Speaker 4: Josh on the right side on the outside. Trayvon I
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  Speaker 4: think can do a little bit of both. I think
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  Speaker 4: he's got the size, certainly got the strength to be
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  Speaker 4: able to kick down inside. So you wouldn't worry about
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  Speaker 4: him handling any kind of power in those situations.
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  Speaker 3: You see here Abdullah going to develop.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he didn't do much last year, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you know, he's he's an undersized guy, and I thought
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  Speaker 4: he I thought he needed to be a little bit
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  Speaker 4: lighter and more maneuverable, and uh just never never really
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  Speaker 4: clicked for him last year. So I'm hopeful this year.
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  Speaker 4: I still think he's got he's got a tool set now,
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  Speaker 4: he's got some natural pass rush ability and reactions to it,
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  Speaker 4: and he's undersized, doesn't have the length, and so typically
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  Speaker 4: if you're an underside guy and you don't have the length,
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  Speaker 4: you've got to have something extra, something special. Like Dwight
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  Speaker 4: Freeny Robert Mathis. I mean those guys were not long.
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  Speaker 4: They were a little bit shorter by most standards. But
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  Speaker 4: Dwight Freeni had one of the best first steps in
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  Speaker 4: the league, and Robert Mathis had a whole array of moves.
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  Speaker 3: Different level of guy, but unique and got Away was
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  Speaker 3: not the length guy either.
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  Speaker 4: I don't even know if if he's he's not even
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  Speaker 4: as long as in Gockway and he was not a
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  Speaker 4: long guy.
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  Speaker 3: So that's my point, gotway was not that length player.
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  Speaker 4: Now, he was kind of had a he had a
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  Speaker 4: really cool move, you know, that little chop move, which
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  Speaker 4: was his deal.
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  Speaker 3: So that was the extra thing for him.
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  Speaker 4: Not at the big level Hall of Fame, right, and
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  Speaker 4: he's yeah, he's not, he's not at the there's a
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  Speaker 4: reason why he's bounced around to a lot of different teams.
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  Speaker 3: But just using that as an exact, but did he
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  Speaker 3: really screw up?
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  Speaker 4: He got offered a great contract here, turned it down,
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  Speaker 4: and then then hasn't been anywhere near collecting the level
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  Speaker 4: of pay that he would have gotten with that contract.
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  Speaker 4: And they've moved and he's moved around a bunch of
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  Speaker 4: different teams in a short amount.
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  Speaker 3: Of time too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, which is not a good sign. No, especially if
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  Speaker 4: for a guy that can rush the passer. If you're
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  Speaker 4: trading teams and you can rush the passer, what's going.
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  Speaker 3: On is happening? Something's not right? Hey, two weeks until
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  Speaker 4: Well understandably so. But I think the big question is
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  Speaker 4: is there a fit at the top at that position.
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  Speaker 3: Well, maybe we're about to find out when we come there.
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  Speaker 4: We are going to find out here in two weeks,
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  Speaker 4: maybe in two minutes, maybe two weeks, in two days
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  Speaker 4: when you explain it to us. After this, I got
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• 16:51
  Speaker 4: How do they top that? Is? Can you top it?
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: That's that's not easy. Probably they can give me done.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: Probably Looking at early May is usually when the schedule
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: has been coming out later, yeah, after the draft, sometimes
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: after the draft. But I'm looking forward to that. That's
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: for me, that's a highlight the draft. Dude.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: The NFL totally stole the idea and used what the
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: Jaguars did to promote the schedule league wise. It was
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: total thievery. Did they called Jaguars say, hey, we really
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: appreciate the idea that you guys had for your schedule
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: release video because we used it for ours.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Did anybody do that? Probably not. No, I don't know.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: Could have called called them out and said, look, you
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: uh evenfringed on our copyrights and we want it.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: We want as a copyright. I don't know. I don't know.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know copyright that. I have no idea how
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: the rules are on it.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: But it was it was a total thievery, thievery, total thievery.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: The star of the schedule release he was a little
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: bit of an actor. Yeah, Asher, Yeah, Asher, Asher's great man.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: He was all over the when it came out the
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: other day. He was on like CBS this morning they
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: got you know, shows are coming out, ghost shows and
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: all this stuff. So he's all over the place talking
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: about it. He was texting me the other day because
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: he he was talking to somebody about this tequila that
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: we we were kind of was our lucky bottle of
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: tequila for the road two years ago.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Okay, he ended up having them.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: They end up sending him a bunch of free bottles
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: of tequila. I was like, where, wait a minute, where's ours?
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: You know the address to the stadium, that's right, Asher
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: all right, So, but the schedule release is kind of
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: like when it gets real for me and the Okay,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: you know, you can schedule out what you're gonna do
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: from August until hopefully February. You know, what's the schedule
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: just not in OTAs at all. You like the schedule release,
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: schedule release, And here we go off and running draft
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: is coming up, of course, two weeks away, and week
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: by week here we're going through some position groups that
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: could be in play for the Jaguars. Well, last week,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: quarterback we went through, but that's not quite in play
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: for the Jags. Cornerback though certainly could be. It's been
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: mocked to the Jaguars a good bit, and we've kind
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: of narrowed it down to a few you've watched on film.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: You watched a bunch on film. Let's start with Quinon Mitchell. Okay, Toledo,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: the name has been mocked to the Jags a lot.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: What do you like, what do you not like? What
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: have you seen?
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Real quick before we get to Quinyon Mitchell. The reason
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: that we started with the quarterbacks, even though the Jaguars
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: are not in the market for a quarterback, is because
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: that impacts the draft, especially if you're the Jaguars, which
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: you know, you're right in the middle of the first round.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: You've got a quarterback that you believe is a franchise guy.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: And so this opens up a lot of possibilities for
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars because there could be four or five, maybe
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: six quarterbacks picked ahead of them.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: So now that's.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Pushing down all lot of top tier talent down to
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars. I'm never going to have their pick of
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: a number of guys. I think that they will have
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: their choice of the best corner on the market. In
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: my opinion, I think that's Quenyon Mitchell. He I think
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: he's got The only question mark about the top two
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: guys that I'm going to talk about is that neither
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: one of them played a bunch of bump and run
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: man coverage, and in the NFL, all defensive coordinators want
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: to have somebody that plays bump and run so that
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: they can play a style of defense that is more
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: beneficial to them, and that typically will include somebody that
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: can play really good man and Quenyon Mitchell and Cooper.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: De Jeen that I say that, yes, Iowa. Yeah.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Neither one of these guys, which of these are my
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: top two corners. Neither one of these guys have played
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: a ton of man. Both of these guys, especially Quanyon Mitchell,
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: he plays a lot of off coverage, three deep coverage,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: but man, he's got great reaction time, he's got great speed,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: very good physical tackler, though he checks a lot of
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: the boxes. Again, you're always trying to forecast or predict
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: or project an athlete that's playing at the college level
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: to what he can be in the NFL, and so
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: there's a little bit of projection involved. I think with
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: both of these got because they didn't do what you'd
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: like to have a top cornerback do, which is play
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: bump and run. But I love quinnyon Mitchell JP He's
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: my best corner on the board in my opinion de
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Gene and then Degene super good tackler, I mean, super
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: good tackler, great ball skills. I mean, if the ball's
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: in the air, he turns into a wide receiver and
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: it's very natural the way sometimes you know, the head turns.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Some guys get lost. He doesn't get lost. He becomes
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: not only a receiver but also still has the ability
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: to remain a so in other words, if he can't
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: catch it, he's got the awareness to break the ball up.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: And he's got a lot of size, just similar to
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Quinnon Mitchell. Probably a little bit bigger than Quenyon Mitchell,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: but again he's played a lot of his own at Iowa.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: But super great tackler, physical player, aware player, great ball skills.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: I think he's got He's got a lot of upside.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: And then another that you wanted to touch on today
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: from Alabama kool Aid McKinstry. Love the name kool Aid.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: I'm drinking the kool aid on this one like this,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: So i like him because you know Alabama's got another
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: guy and Terry and Arnold is that I say that
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: right the opposite corner, and so you have one in three, Okay,
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Terry and Arnold is number three and kool Aid is
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: number one, And so when you watch Alabama, you got
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: to pay attention to both of them as well as
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Dallas Turner and everybody else because you're watching a ton
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: of guys who are sitting a rewind in the film
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: ten times, because you want to watch everybody on that
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: dpence that's a draftable player. But I really believe that
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: kool Aid's the better of the two. There's some prognostic
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: hitters that believe that Terry and Arnold is the higher
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: rated one.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Not in my book.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Why so, because kool Aid plays man and he is
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: right there. So if you're the wide receiver, he is
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: right there in the hip pocket a wide receiver. Everywhere
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: he goes. He's got a very very strong ability to
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: do that. So if you're looking for a guy that's
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: going to play man, he's He's not super big, but
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: he's got I think decent size.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I like him.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: I think he could play some some great football for
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: a team that's asking asking their corners to play man.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: I think he's got that talent.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Well. The Jaguars in their history have drafted three first
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: round cornerbacks. Fernando Bryant nine two five. That's Fernando Bryant
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: out of Alabama twenty sixteen. Jalen Ramsey of course out
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: of Florida State twenty twenty. CJ. Henderson out of Florida.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: That was a terrible draft pick. So Henderson didn't last.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Ramsey didn't finish his deal here either, he got traded.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: The whole thing with with drafting the guy from Flora,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: wasn't it.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: CJ. Henderson?
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: I mean you remember after he was drafted, it was
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: almost looked like he was not happy the action.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: The action was terrible. It started bad and it ended
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: bad and and in between. It was not good. No,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: it was far from it. It was not a good pick.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: So the Jackson at least historically, how was Bran Brandon
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Brown's a good player, yeah yeah, two five two five
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: is a good player now. And Ramsey was a good player.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Jalen's great player, Yeah, great player. I mean just you
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: know the personality of Jalen didn't work here and it
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: was better for him to go to other places, I guess.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: But excellent player. And what I loved about Jalen is
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Jaalen when he wants to be he's so physical, so
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: physical and uh, superior talent. You know, there there's certain
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: guys that play the game that they just have superior talent.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: Jalen Ramsey is like one of those guys at corner
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: the uh the safety uh uh for the Chargers James
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: you know, uh Florida State.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Guy Gosh Derwin James.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Derwin James is like a like freak, freak, athletic,
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: super strong, super fast, I mean Derwin James, Jalen Ramsey.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, these are guys that just they're physical freaks
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: and they don't come along very often. They just have
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: superior ability and uh and they're fun to watch play.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: But you gotta hit. You gotta hit this first round.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: If you're going cornerback, you gotta have a guy that
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: can last. The percentages of the of the of hitting
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: in the first round need to be very high for
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: any football team. And if they're not, then you need
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: to look at who's picking them.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Give me another couple of names that could be in
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: that mix. Of these three we talked about here, Terry
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: and Arnold is one of them, right.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Possibly, well, I mean I think as far as like corners, yeah, well,
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you look Wiggins, Nate Wiggins from Clemson's
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: a guy that plays a little bit of man. He's
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: got some size. Not real big fan of his physical
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: presence tackling ability. I think it's a little bit weak
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: at times, but he's somewhere up in that range. But
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: I really believe, Jap that you got to be looking
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: at those top corners if the Jaguars use that pick
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: in the first round, because I think that they will
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: have their choice of any corner when it comes to
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: pick seventeen. If not, then it'll be the second best corner.
• 26:40
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• 26:44
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• 26:47
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• 26:58
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• 27:00
  Speaker 4: I'm voting right now, by the way, the Webby award
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: I am. I am on that right now, and I
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: am going to vote for the Jaguars schedule release.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: The Jaguars, thank you keeping it. Real expectations for Josh
• 27:12
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• 27:19
  Speaker 3: It's worth saving.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: But it's about ten twenty years from when he starts
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: to understand and develop, Oh daddy, you you got me
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: here or I was there when you did this, And
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: then we can look back, we can look back at
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: the videos and the pictures and just you know, gain
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: those memories back.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: And see how happy we were at that time. So
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: that's what that's what's special for me.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: And again it create my legacy and to leave the
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: legacy wherever I go, and they're part of it and
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: they're always going to be a part of it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen discussing family with Kay Stevens. The one on
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• 28:17
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• 28:19
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• 28:26
  Speaker 3: the draft is almost here, two weeks away. The Jags
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: will be on the clock at number seventeen. Unless they're not.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: They can move back, they can move up, they can
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: just stay there. There's plenty of options either way. There's
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: a party at the bank on Thursday April twenty fifth,
• 28:41
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  Speaker 3: and Plumbing. We're getting the party started at seven o'clock.
• 28:48
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• 28:55
  Speaker 3: and there will be a draft radio show that starts
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: from the stadium on Thursday the twenty fifth as well.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: So a lot going on as always on Draft night.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Excited and looking forward to it. The NFL does a
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: great job of making the draft of production. It certainly
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: is a production in Detroit this year. Correct, it is. Yeah,
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: downtown City, Motor City will have a good show. I'm sure,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: yes they will. Well, they'll do a good job. But
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: I really enjoyed the first round.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: I really do.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: I watch enough guys on film to get around around
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: probably three rounds deep total, you know, because I'm watching
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: about five or six guys at each position, so that
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: adds up pretty quick. But I like to see what
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: other people think, you know, once the draft happens, you
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: kind of compare that what happens to what you kind
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: of had a mental picture of to see was I
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: kind of thinking the right thing? Or you know, what
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: do these do these guys know? What the heck they're doing,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: you know, kind of a thing. But the great thing
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: about the draft again, it's it's and so it's there's
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: no exact science to it whatsoever. In fact, some people
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: might have a great knack of it and for it
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: that have no experience of working for an NFL team,
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: because some people can can see the traits, some people
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: can see the production and can kind of put it together.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: I wonder when AI, or if AI will ever have
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: a role It's got to have a role at some
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: point in analyzing talent college talent for the NFL.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Don't you think they will always be able to do
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: statistically some of that, I would guess, But you can't.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Computer can't measure hard No, but a computer can measure
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: speed and reaction and all of those things.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Because I mean, nowadays they have players wearing these monitors
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: now everywhere. And I mean, so what information is not
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: out there, I don't know, But I mean there's a
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: lot of information that AI could use to help spit out,
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: you know, the the AI top prospect list or something.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know, it's going to be interesting.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: AI is having such a huge impact in so many
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: other areas of our life today, why not looking at
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: NFL Prospects.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Why not? Yeah, why not? We're on ten Tenexlam Jaguars
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman and
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: as we always do on this program, we keep it
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: real pretty much all the time. Well, certainly in this
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: segment because it's called keeping it real. Okay, the topic today,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: how will Josh Allen handle the expectations that come with
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: this size of a contract.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: That's a challenge. I think you'll handle it very well.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Again I said this earlier. Josh Allen is the type
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: of qual of person an athlete that you want to
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: make sure that you get on that second contract. I'm
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: glad they got it done with them. I don't worry
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: about a guy like Josh Allen. I mean there's some
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: guys that you always worry about. Okay, he's got the money, now,
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: he's not going to end up having the work ethic.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: And the commitment to it.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: That's why you got to be careful with who you
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: give the big money to, because some guys aren't wired
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: to handle the big money. It has an impact on
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: them in different ways. One it makes them a little
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: bit less. Some guys that could make them lazy, Hey, look,
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: you know I've got my guaranteed money. Now I broke
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: the bank, generational money.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I'm good.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: And some guys that it doesn't impact them at all
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: because they're an ultimate competitor and at the end of
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: the day, it's not about the money with them, it's
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: about playing the game at a high level. And always
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: I always like what Josh says because he talks about
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: leaving a legacy. Okay, legacy doesn't have anything to do
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: with money.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: When he's talking about legacy, he's talking about performance and
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: playing extremely well and setting a standard for himself. And
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: that's the kind of guy that you want to be
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: able to give that type of contract too, because you
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: know that he's going to react and be responsible and
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: act accordingly. You know how people are, You know how
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: fans are and should be because fans need to be.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Super into their football team. Is there a statistical number
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: that he needs to reach to call this successful or
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: does that matter to you? Well?
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I think there's always numbers that you
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: want to attain and because you know, look, everybody measures
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: a pass rusher by sacks and what was it seventeen
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: this past year and a half and so everybody's going
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: to expect seventeen seventeen and a half. I'm not going
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: to expect seventeen and a half, but I'm going to
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: expect double digits. I mean, I think that that's the
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: minimum bar that he needs to surpass, and a lot
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: of it depends on the circumstances. There are a lot
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: of guys that don't get twenty sacks or seventeen sacks
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: but have a huge impact on quarterbacks in the passer
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: So what's that impact? Sometimes it's not always measurable in
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: sacks or pressures. So but I think, you know, double digits.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: If you're in double digits, man, you're an elite pass rusher.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, simple fact. If you're a double digit sack guy,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: you are an elite pass rusher in the National Football League.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: If you do it year and in year out. That's
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: the challenge year in year out.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: So ten is your number.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: That's why TJ. Watt is up here, you know. That's
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: why Aaron Donald essentially anointed TJ. Watt Now he's the
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: best defender in the National Football League. And Aaron Donald
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: talked about a couple of things. When he talked about TJ. Watt,
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: and he was spot on consistency, stays on the field
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: all the time, plays running the pass equally well. I mean,
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: those are all the things that Josh Allen also does.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: But the challenge with Josh now is to do it
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: again at that kind of a high level.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: If TJ.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Watt's been been stacking them, stacking them and stacking them,
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: and it's hard to do it at that level. TJ
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: better than Chris Jones. Jeez, it's great. It's a great conversation.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know if he's better different different position. I
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: will tell you this, every time t J. Watt lines up,
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: if the play is anywhere in his neighborhood, he is
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: always very active. Sometimes Chris Jones can shut.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: It down a little bit. The boy he can turn
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: it on.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: When he turns it on, he's unbelievable. And I think
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: the challenge for Chris is to be able to have
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: more consistency the play in and play out for himself.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: But when he rolls you, you're not gonna stop him.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: You're not gonna stop him. But for Josh, the challenge
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: is consistency. To get to that point, you have to
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: do it year over years year. Look Josh had a
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: good year two years ago, but not quite the level
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: that you know that you wanted to see out of Josh,
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: and he was banged up a little bit, had a
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: little bit of a shoulder the year. First year is
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: a rookie ear really good year, you know. So it's
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: just trying to be consistent and have that productivity at
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: a high level consistently. It's hard to do, especially if
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: you're if you got to if you're dinged up, you know,
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: you're not feeling one hundred percent, you know, and that's
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: a that's a big part of it.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: That was keeping it real. I thought we did that today.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: I think we You certainly did your part trying to
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: keep it real, Jaja, you always do.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: We appreciate you know.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: The uh to be keep keeping it real. I'm ana
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: real here. They're someall offensive linemen this this team could
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: really really use in the draft.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Really yeah, so position group.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: I would not be surprised if the Jaguars go offensive
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: line at seventeen, not one bit surprised. I would not
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: be a bit surprised if they go defensive tackle. If
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: if Law two's available at seventeen, which he's not gonna be,
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: If he were, and you don't pick him, some of
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: the needs get fired.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: I mean the offensive line thing. We've talked about this before.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Considering the players I have on that line, there's some
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: veteran players on that line that may not be around
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: here for the long haul.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: I would consider trying to trade up in this draft
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: to get Law too. She would trade up if if
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: there was, if there was a reasonable.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Level.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: You know, when I say reasonable, you know you're not
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: gonna get in the top five, you know. And I
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: don't know if he would go in the top five.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: But let's say that he's sitting there at ten, and
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: can you get to ten from seventeen to ten to
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: get a.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Guy like Sure you can, but it might cost you
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: more than you're willing to give up. And at some
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: point you need some cheap labor, you know. I mean,
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: you're starting to pay all this money out. You're gonna
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: need some rookie players on your team draft picks. What
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: do you mean pay all the money out? He just
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: paid Josh Allen quarterback, and hey, Luk's coming up. If
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: if you just paid a boatload of moneyed offensive line,
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: if I'm.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: Paying a little guy like a lot too in this draft.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: I'm okay with that.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Well I'm talking about that's yeah, but you need more
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: than just the first round guy. You need like the
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: second and third and fourth round players to fill your
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: roster out. That's saying, everybody, what are we doing?
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: That's what if you draft, well, that's what allows you
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: to manage your salary cap because your roster is full
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: of guys that are essentially fixed income.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: If you put it all in the first round guy,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: then you don't have anybody else that are rookies.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, but I'm just saying, though, if if
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: lat two is available, let's say you can, you're.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Going go get him, Go get him. I love it.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: I love him, you know, and you know me, I don't.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: I don't watch college football during the fall because I
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: watch so much NFL.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: I just burnt.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: I can't watch that much football. There's not enough time
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: in the day, and and so for me, you got
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: to take a mental break. So I don't watch a
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: whole lot of college football. But watching a lot two,
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: he's I don't know if he's blockable, and watching him
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: against some of the higher rated tackles in the draft,
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: he's wearing them out, wearing them out. They can't block him.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: He lines up inside outside verse. This is another one
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: who's really good, by the way, the Florida State guy,
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: he's really good.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: The guy at Alabama.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: Uh eh, Dallas Turner.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: I believe his name is.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Where's number fifteen at Alabama? I like him, but I
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: don't like him at seventeen. But verse.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: A lot too. Oh yeah, your trick. You're going all
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: in for a lot GM Jeff Flag is going on.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: I'm just telling to JP it's not I mean, it's
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: just you don't see a guy like this come along
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: very often. He's just he's rare. I don't want to
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: use that term that we used last year. It starts
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: with a G. Yeah, depends with an iteration. Ass on
• 40:42
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• 40:45
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• 41:12
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• 41:14
  Speaker 5: And you know, I I still believe with Todd Dogs
• 41:17
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• 41:22
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• 41:24
  Speaker 6: Is gonna win these games.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: And I feel like we have a great opportunity to
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: be the best defensive front in our division, which is
• 41:29
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• 41:32
  Speaker 6: So you know, I'm excited to get the work.
• 41:34
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• 41:37
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• 41:40
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• 41:44
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars YouTube winding down for the day and time now
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: for social media questions powered by Microsoft Nice. We put
• 42:12
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• 42:16
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• 42:18
  Speaker 3: three bringing on answer question number one at Van Diver
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: twenty one. By the end of his extension, will Josh
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Allen be viewed as the best Jags defensive player. Ever,
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: I hope. So it's not a yes or though.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: Come on, well, I mean, look, uh, I don't think
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: that can be a yes or no answer. I mean
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: it's I hope So, I mean, you hope that he
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: stays healthy. You hope that he continues to get better,
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: which I believe he will. But health is a big thing,
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: and so there's no way to predict good health. Knocking
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: on wood that he stays healthy. But if he stays healthy,
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: I believe that Josh Allen will be considered arguably one
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: of the best Jaguar defenders in history.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: If he goes to three Pro Bowls in the next
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: five years. It's a great argument.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, who who else is up there?
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Who else? Who else has five Pro Bowls in their
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: time on defense?
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: I don't think there has been one ever, No, And
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: who has the most Pro Bowls in the Jaguars history
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: on defense?
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: An interesting question? Donovan a couple of times.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: I don't think he did, because you know, Donald was
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: kind of a tackler.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Rackens didn't go, did he.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: I don't think Brack went, you know, I want to
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: say Jalen went a couple of times. Yeah, yeah, he went,
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: certainly now once at least once or twice. I mean,
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: that's a great question, that might be a good trivia question.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: Might already be tied for the most two kalas kalais
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: is here only you think of the best Jaguar defenders
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: in history were y Brackens kalais for a short period
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: of time. Obviously Darryl Smith I would put up there,
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: but they weren't.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: They weren't getting the NFL accolades with that.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: I don't I try not to use that as a
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: measuring stick because Jacksonville is smaller market, doesn't get the
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: national exposure. So you can't compare Pro Bowls with a
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: guy that's played in Jacksonville versus a guy that maybe
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: has played in New York.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, it's very it's very different.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: And that's why I think if you're an agent, I
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: think I'd be less likely or you'd want to be
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: less likely to tie that type of recognition to incentives.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: You would like to have it maybe in another way, reachable,
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: reachable incentive instead of Pro Bowls because you know this
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: is a small market, you know the team hasn't been great,
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: the exposure hasn't been high, and you need exposure and
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: you need to be a good football team to gain
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: those type of accolades.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Next Ques question at jfix eighty eight. Which is more
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: likely to happen. The Jaguars trade up in the draft
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: to get a top receiver, or they trade for a
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: top veteran receiver such as Higgins, I Uk, et cetera.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they necessarily.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: Have to trade up, but I think I think a
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: wide receiver in the draft is definitely going to happen,
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: and I think it's going to happen fairly high, whether
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: it be in round one or round two. I think
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: that there could be a wide receiver taken. I don't
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: think that they're going to trade up. I don't think
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: this is a draft that you want to trade up.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: You just said you would give the bank for a lot.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: That's the only guy that's it. That's the only guy
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: I would do it for. Unless I was in need
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: of a quarterback, then obviously I would.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: Then that's different.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: I would give up a ton to get a Caleb
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Williams or a Drake may or whatever, or you know.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: One of those guys.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: But I haven't watched anybody that i'd sit there and say, yeah,
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: you know what, I'm willing to.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Give up a lot.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Now, those the two top wide receivers, which Marvin Harrison
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Junior is really good. But you know, the one guy
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: that I really like, his elite neighbors. He's special. There's
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: a lot of teams that think that. People think that
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior is a slam dunk first wide receiver
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: pick overall.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know about that.
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: He's good.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: I think there's he's really good.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: I know, but I mean, look here pretty good.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's really good too. But you turn on the
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: film and what that what that guy does?
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, he just gets great separation and uh and
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: I think the name also brings a little bit more
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: attention to Marvin Harrison Junior as it should. He's really good. No,
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's not good. I'm just saying, is
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: that Milik neighbors are really good too?
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, really good. You know. So, I don't know. It's
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: a great debate. We'll find out in about four or
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: five years maybe at Dantonny Wilke is our final question today, Jeff,
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: if you had to guess what is the first down
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: starting lineup on the defense of line is Armstead going
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: to play three technique on first and second down. Yes, okay,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: And now what's the starting lineup on first down?
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: You know, if you're playing a four down, which I
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: think they're going to play some four down this year.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: Trayvon at left, in Devon Hamilton at knows, Eric Armstead
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: at three, Josh at the right defensive end, and then
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: your two linebackers, which Uh and Devin, and then the
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: corners with Tyson. Antonio Johnson will be at one safety
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: with Cisco at the other one, and then the other corner.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: You know, we'll see what happened in the draft.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: May not be on the roster, you may not be,
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: and then Nickel will be one of the guys they
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: signed a free agency most likely maybe yeah.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: Maybe, unless somebody develops. You might get somebody in the
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: draft to you never know. Look, and here's the reality
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: to Antonio Johnson can play safety and he can play
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: nicol Right, So I mean great positional flexibility with him,
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: very similar to Hamilton, Kyle Hamilton and Baltimore. He's got
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: a similar skill.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Set's saying something Kyle Hamilton can play, I know he
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: can play.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: I think Antonio Johnson can play too. And I mean
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: Hamilton is everywhere my whole What round was he?
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Something ridiculous, Okay, because we had this
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: discussion about who was the best late round pick in
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Jaguars history, and Telvin Smith's name popped out of my
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: into my mind, and no, Kyle Hamilton was the first round.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm talking about Antonio Johnson. I knew Kyle Hamilton
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: was the first round pick. Come on JP first. Many
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: people thought he should be the first overall pick of
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: the draft. Antonio Johnson fifth round pick. Okay, we had
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: this discussion. I think it was last week. Wasn't it
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: about this?
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: And I'm mistaken. I should have I should have said,
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: and I believe this. I believe Antonio Johnson will go
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: down as one of the best late round picks the
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: Jaguars I've ever had.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: But you gotta go play. I want to go play.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: But I'm just telling you that he was hurt. Remember
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: he hears him.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: Harold string early in camp and then he ended up
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: missing the first you know, probably month of the season,
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: and they slowly worked him back in. But I'm just
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: telling you what I'm seeing, and I'm seeing a guy
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: that's got he's got a tremendous skill set and I
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: think he's gonna have a huge impact with his football team,
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: and I think he's gonna end up being one of
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: the best late round picks in Jaguars history.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: You have it. The social media questions powered by Microsoft
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: are in for the day, and that will about do
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: it for our show. Congrats again to Josh Allen signing
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: his extension five year deal. But what a money is
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: he gonna buy his dinner now? I hope so one night.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: He's always welcome in the studio, Let's put it that way,
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: and he will pop by on occasion, and two weeks
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: away from the NFL Draft, we'll have another show again
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: next week, and then all of a sudden we'll be
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: counting down the days and we have a draft show
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: and then that's coming up. We're gonna be live during
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: the draft. We'll do this show from the draft to
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: normal time, and then you guys will have the Draft
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: show after that and you're doing social media.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: I have Jaguars, you don't know, Okay, a lot of stuff.
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: You'll probably jump on with us at something. I'm going
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: to guess, so I might just walk over there. Jumping
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: is dangerous we'll be we'll be in the TV studio
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: of the or should I say the National Broadcast booth
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: at the stadium. That's exactly we're gonna have a great
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: view of all the action.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: That's Jeff Logoman. I'm JP Shadwick.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: Thanks to Joe for fortunate Oh, David Shoe, Brent Reaver,
• 50:36
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