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Show Rewind 9-11-26 · South Carolina's Morning News

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  Speaker 1: Your news, traffic, weather, and information stations. This is South
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  Speaker 1: Carolina's Morning News on 103.5 FM, 560 AM WVOC, and 94.3 WSC.
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  Speaker 2: Today, our fellow citizens, our way of life, our very
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  Speaker 2: freedom came under attack in a series of deliberate and
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  Speaker 2: deadly terrorist acts.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was quite a day.
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  Speaker 4: 25th anniversary of 9-11.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning. It is 6-03.
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  Speaker 4: This is Kelly Nash, Christopher Thompson, together again on South
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  Speaker 4: Carolina's Morning News. And Christopher, I was thinking about this
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  Speaker 4: this morning, the fact that, gosh, it's 25 years. So
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  Speaker 4: if you're like 30 or under, at best you have
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  Speaker 4: vague memories of 9-11. And for many young Americans have
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  Speaker 4: no memories of it. It's kind of like, what was
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  Speaker 4: it like on, uh, you know, Pearl Harbor for me,
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  Speaker 4: like I I've seen documentaries, uh, and again, Pearl Harbor
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  Speaker 4: happening in Hawaii, but the mainland wasn't being hit. Although
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure there were some rumors of it, the, uh,
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  Speaker 4: it was so chaotic that day. Um, I'm guessing you
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  Speaker 4: were on the air here already?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 4: You were already on WVOC all those years ago. I
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  Speaker 4: was still working in the record industry at that point.
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  Speaker 4: And it was a very bizarre day because I lived
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  Speaker 4: in D.C. Ironically, I had already been told I was
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  Speaker 4: going to be transferred back to New York City where
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  Speaker 4: I had been originally. But I was living in D.C.
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  Speaker 4: My mother had visited me that day or that weekend.
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  Speaker 4: And then I think that was a Tuesday, if I
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  Speaker 4: remember correctly. And I was supposed to be, I was
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  Speaker 4: actually on route to the Pennsylvania state fair because I
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  Speaker 4: had a hot new rock band called three doors down
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  Speaker 4: that was playing at the Pennsylvania state fair that day.
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  Speaker 4: And as I'm driving up there, I'm on the phone
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  Speaker 4: with a radio person and I'm, you know, trying to
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  Speaker 4: work my music. And then she says, Oh, a plane
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  Speaker 4: hit the twin towers. And I'm like, in my mind,
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  Speaker 4: I already know that's a no fly zone. So because
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  Speaker 4: I've flown into New York so many times, I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: I'm thinking it's like a, Like a little twin prop
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  Speaker 4: plane or something.
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  Speaker 3: Like some moron got off track or something.
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  Speaker 5: Just a private plane that, yeah, just made a mistake.
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  Speaker 4: And she's like, and I'm just talking to her on
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  Speaker 4: a speakerphone or whatever as I'm driving. And then she says, oh,
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  Speaker 4: wait a minute. I think they're showing it again. They
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  Speaker 4: have it on video and it looks like it's a jet.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, a jet?
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  Speaker 4: And it's impossible. And then she says, oh, wait a minute.
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  Speaker 4: They're saying this is a live shot. And it's a
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  Speaker 4: second plane. And that's when, like, you just, like, white out.
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  Speaker 3: Like, what?
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 4: Because I think anybody with any sense knew we're under attack.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm trying to call my mother, who's still in D.C., like,
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  Speaker 4: get the hell out. But I can't even get through
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  Speaker 4: because all the cell phone services doesn't work. It was.
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  Speaker 3: And then you're on the radio. I'm listening.
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  Speaker 4: And they're talking about Chicago's been hit.
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  Speaker 3: Like, all these crazy rumors. Nobody knew what was going on.
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  Speaker 5: The fog of war.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And you were driving into Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 3: I was driving.
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  Speaker 5: Were you going anywhere near Shanksville?
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  Speaker 3: No, but, but like, I, I remember.
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  Speaker 4: I got to a, like a Burger King or something
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  Speaker 4: like that in like, I think I was in Pennsylvania
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  Speaker 4: already when I went into just try to re I,
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  Speaker 4: you know, use the restroom or whatever, but also kind
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  Speaker 4: of re adjust. And they were all standing around watching
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  Speaker 4: the TV. And that's where I saw it as the
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  Speaker 4: twin towers fell. And we're like, Oh my gosh. And
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  Speaker 4: then I moved on into, you know, you're just like,
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  Speaker 4: what am I supposed to do? And I get to
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  Speaker 4: the Pennsylvania State Fair and, you know, Three Doors Down
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  Speaker 4: is there. And the opening act that night, ironically, was Nickelback.
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  Speaker 4: And so I'm just kind of sitting on the tour bus,
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  Speaker 4: listening to the argument that between the promoter and the
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  Speaker 4: band's managers, because they're like, well, we're not going to
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  Speaker 4: pay you if you don't play.
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  Speaker 3: And they're like, well. It's we're at war.
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  Speaker 4: Like we're not going to play in the middle of
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  Speaker 4: a war.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody's coming to the state fair to see us play tonight. No,
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  Speaker 3: no one's showing up.
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  Speaker 4: And is that, I don't even know how that fight
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  Speaker 4: ended because I just said, I've got to try to
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  Speaker 4: figure out how to get home. And they're telling me
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  Speaker 4: that DC is closed. So I tried to like go
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  Speaker 4: back roads to try to get back to my house.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, I can remember listening to the jets
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  Speaker 4: flying around my house and it was just like, what
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  Speaker 4: is happening here? This is, and if you weren't alive
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  Speaker 4: before nine 11, you know, You don't understand, I'll just say,
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  Speaker 4: the innocence of America. Like, we didn't think that that
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  Speaker 4: was a thing. Like, terrorism is over there.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: We had some domestic terrorists here. That was our problem,
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  Speaker 4: the mop-up, you know, the Timothy McVeigh's of the world.
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  Speaker 4: But now they have brought it to our shores?
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  Speaker 3: Oof. That was a— and to think that New York City
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  Speaker 3: has now elected Mamdani— who is like best friends with
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  Speaker 3: some of these people. Amazing.
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  Speaker 5: Now, when you were in Pennsylvania, I assume you knew
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  Speaker 5: at some point that one of the planes had gone
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  Speaker 5: down there.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I was thinking like, is this guy like, you know, I'm,
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  Speaker 4: I'm somewhat exaggerating, but it was like, is this guy
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  Speaker 4: just targeting me?
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  Speaker 3: Like, is he coming after, he's got my house in DC.
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  Speaker 4: He's got my, you know, my old house in New
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  Speaker 4: York and now he's coming after me in Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 3: This is insane.
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  Speaker 4: But, but it was more, like I said, you know,
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  Speaker 4: they were talking about at some points, you know, Boston
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  Speaker 4: had been hit, LA was hit, but it wasn't, it
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  Speaker 4: was just, so, you know, you don't even know, is
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  Speaker 4: it really a plane down in Pennsylvania or is it?
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  Speaker 3: Is it not? And so we didn't know.
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  Speaker 4: It was just an unbelievably confusing time that those of
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  Speaker 4: us who lived through it will never forget it. And
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure, were you and Gary on the air together then?
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  Speaker 3: We were, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And that TV right above your head was on at
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  Speaker 5: the time. And I pointed it out to him. I said,
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  Speaker 5: do you see that? It looks like a plane has
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  Speaker 5: flown into the World Trade Center. That was one.
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  Speaker 6: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: And then we went off the air and the second
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  Speaker 5: one hit. And that's when everyone knew.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and the world really– well, I shouldn't say the
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  Speaker 4: whole world. America changed.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: And at least we kind of woke up a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, when you see these documentaries now and you
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  Speaker 4: hear about, like, what the CIA and other agencies were
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  Speaker 4: telling some of the commanding people, like, this– the coal
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  Speaker 4: was a warning. The USS Cole attack, he's warning you.
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  Speaker 4: That's not, like, the attack. But he's letting you know
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  Speaker 4: he has declared war and he's coming for you. And
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  Speaker 4: we were just obviously the general public. We were just
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  Speaker 4: like completely oblivious. Who's bin Laden? What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 4: And then the name starts spreading like some dude in
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  Speaker 4: a cave attacked us.
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  Speaker 3: How could that possibly have happened? But now we know.
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  Speaker 5: And you look at today's world, I mean, the TSA
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  Speaker 5: just put out news this week saying some of their
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  Speaker 5: pre-check people will now be able to carry water, a
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  Speaker 5: bottle of water, onto the plane with them, which, you know,
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  Speaker 5: in the old days, you could pull right up to
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  Speaker 5: the airport. You could drive up to the airport, park
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  Speaker 5: your car, leave your car, walk your mom up to
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  Speaker 5: the gate, wave goodbye, and then go back to your
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  Speaker 5: car and leave and I mean, it is a brave
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  Speaker 5: new world when it comes to flying. And now we're
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  Speaker 5: just getting to the point where, yeah, you may be
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  Speaker 5: able to carry a beverage that you brought into the
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  Speaker 5: airport with you onto a plane. That's how strict we've gotten.
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  Speaker 4: You know, and I was a kid, but in the 70s,
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  Speaker 4: they were having all those hijackings. And so they had
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  Speaker 4: to start making some changes because people were just strolling
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  Speaker 4: onto the planes with guns and take it over the
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  Speaker 4: planes back in the seventies. It was a, so things
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  Speaker 4: have obviously changed a lot. And I remember I was
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  Speaker 4: frustrated with the phrase that was like in 2004, 2005,
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  Speaker 4: they kept saying it every year, never forget, never forget.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, I want to forget. I knew
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  Speaker 3: people who died.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I went back to the Pentagon and, and,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I, I lived probably two miles maybe from
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  Speaker 4: the Pentagon. Uh, I didn't want to remember it, but
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  Speaker 4: now I see the value in that. You know, this
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  Speaker 4: idea that there's a whole new generation who has no
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  Speaker 4: idea what we're talking about. So we have to teach
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  Speaker 4: them that, you know, our way of life is offensive
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  Speaker 4: to those who want to have control over entire populations.
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  Speaker 4: And we are a free people, which is, it's a
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  Speaker 4: beacon of light to the world that And that's why
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  Speaker 4: you see at these protest rallies, people in like Taiwan
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  Speaker 4: will wave US flags because we're the dream.
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  Speaker 3: And that is why they hate us. And so.
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  Speaker 4: Don't give up your freedoms. Don't get, matter of fact,
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  Speaker 4: coming up in a little bit, last night, the RNC's
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  Speaker 4: midterm convention, we had a, I thought, a very powerful
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  Speaker 4: reminder from RFK Jr. We might go through that. I
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  Speaker 4: might have to wait on that one a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: We'll talk about some Columbia news. We've got some Charleston
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  Speaker 4: news going on today. Lots of stuff to get to.
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  Speaker 4: But if you have thoughts on 9-11 or other things
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  Speaker 4: that you want to share, you can use the Talk
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  Speaker 4: Back feature on the iHeartRadio app. We love getting your
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  Speaker 4: voice on the air, if possible. But you can also
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  Speaker 4: hit us up on social media. I'm at Kelly Nash Radio.
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  Speaker 3: It's 6-12.
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  Speaker 1: From the Midlands to the Lowcountry, this is South Carolina's
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  Speaker 1: Morning News.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 4: I see tensions getting up there. Last night they had
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  Speaker 4: the Dorchester County Sheriff Sam Richardson had a meeting, wanted
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  Speaker 4: to talk to the people.
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  Speaker 3: Seems like it was a little hot.
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  Speaker 4: They were not in a, as he says, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people don't want to talk. They want to tell
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  Speaker 4: you something and not hear what your answer is. That's
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  Speaker 4: how the sheriff felt. after going through that last night.
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  Speaker 3: The hot topics. There was two hot topics, it seems, Christopher. One,
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  Speaker 3: not surprisingly, flock.
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  Speaker 4: As one person stated in the crowd, it's your job
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  Speaker 4: to get justice. We did it for 250 years without
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  Speaker 4: these things. you're pushing around a surveillance state and you're
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  Speaker 4: doing it at the local level. And then as Richardson said,
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  Speaker 4: we have some people here don't just came here not
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  Speaker 4: wanting to talk. They just want, they don't want to
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  Speaker 4: have dialogue. They just want to tell their side of
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  Speaker 4: the story and not hear mine.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Then there was another, I didn't, I mean, I haven't
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  Speaker 4: been to Dorchester. I mean, I've never lived in Dorchester County,
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  Speaker 4: so I'm not really that familiar with the, What is
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  Speaker 4: it like there? But I was surprised that there was
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  Speaker 4: apparently people bringing up ICE, and they don't want him
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  Speaker 4: to cooperate with ICE. And Richardson said, quote, the department
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  Speaker 4: focus is local, not federal, and we have challenged federal
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  Speaker 4: agents when necessary.
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  Speaker 3: Have I stood my ground to federal agents? Yeah. A
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  Speaker 3: federal badge doesn't impress me, said Richardson.
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  Speaker 5: It impresses me.
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  Speaker 3: It should.
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  Speaker 4: It should impress you. If there's a federal law that's
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  Speaker 4: being enforced in your county, I'm not saying, look, if
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  Speaker 4: you don't agree with it, I totally understand that. That's
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  Speaker 4: one of those things where I guess that's a political
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  Speaker 4: divide in America. But we do have a federal law
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  Speaker 4: that says if you are here, undocumented, you're not allowed
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  Speaker 4: to be here. And these people have orders of removal
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  Speaker 4: against them. so you should at the very minimum at
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  Speaker 4: the very minimum when so when you arrest somebody who's
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  Speaker 4: not documented at the very minimum that's when you call
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  Speaker 4: ice and say hey look just so you know we
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  Speaker 4: found and we got an undocumented person sitting in one
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  Speaker 4: of our jails.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds as if he's saying he's not willing to do.
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  Speaker 5: That and i'm not sure why i i mean that's
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  Speaker 5: If it's a federal law broken, whether you agree with
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  Speaker 5: the law or not, the law is the law. You
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  Speaker 5: uphold the laws in your county and the laws of
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  Speaker 5: the state, but federal laws are meant to be observed too.
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  Speaker 4: And as a law enforcement official, you'd think you would
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  Speaker 4: know that. Maybe you don't agree with all the laws,
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  Speaker 4: but that's not what you signed up to be, right?
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  Speaker 4: It's like you're not the judge of the laws. So
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  Speaker 4: we have lawmakers who And if we don't like our laws,
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  Speaker 4: we then petition the lawmakers to change the laws, modify
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  Speaker 4: them however you think. Like, for example, I'm sure they have,
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  Speaker 4: you know, he would enforce a drunk driving charge. But
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  Speaker 4: perhaps he thinks that the bar is too low or
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  Speaker 4: too high on the DUI. So if it's, you know,
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  Speaker 4: what is it,. 08 or whatever it is now, I
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  Speaker 4: don't keep up with drunk driving laws because I don't
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  Speaker 4: drink and drive. But if It's 0.08, say, and he
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  Speaker 4: felt like it should be 1.0 or higher. If you
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  Speaker 4: pull somebody over and they're at a 0.9.
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  Speaker 3: 0.9, they've broken the law. You should enforce that.
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  Speaker 4: You don't get to say, it's not as high as
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  Speaker 4: I like it to be before I enforce the law.
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  Speaker 3: Or maybe they do do that. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I guess maybe if you take it to the extreme,
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  Speaker 4: we've all probably been given a little break on a
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  Speaker 4: speeding ticket. Somebody said, oh, well, you're just going 77
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  Speaker 4: in a 65. It's a little bit more than we like,
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  Speaker 4: but just dial it back.
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  Speaker 3: So we did get a break there.
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  Speaker 4: But, I mean, there's a difference between a speeding ticket
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  Speaker 4: and a drunk driving ticket and a big difference between
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  Speaker 4: that and, oh, we have a criminal in our community
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  Speaker 4: who's not even supposed to be in the community.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, at that point, you're not interpreting the law. You're
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  Speaker 5: enforcing the law. Other people can enter. The judiciary is
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  Speaker 5: there to make sure the law– abides by the U.S.
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  Speaker 5: Constitution and all of our laws. Lawmakers are there to
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  Speaker 5: make the laws. You're there to enforce the laws.
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  Speaker 4: If anybody went down to the Dorchester County meeting last night,
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  Speaker 4: I'd love to hear what your thoughts were.
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  Speaker 3: It looks like it was quite the show. All right.
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  Speaker 4: Back in a moment, it is 622.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 4: This is South Carolina's Morning News. We're running a little
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  Speaker 4: bit tight here this morning on the bottom of the hour.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to let you know, coming up, I'm reading
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  Speaker 4: through this new poll that was done of South Carolinians,
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  Speaker 4: and it is very concerning, particularly for the Republican Party.
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  Speaker 4: And this just really exasperates my frustrations with how poor
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  Speaker 4: the Republicans have been when it comes to messaging. And
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  Speaker 4: so we're going to, I'm going to attempt to reframe
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  Speaker 4: the argument in just a moment. We'll see how that goes. Also,
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  Speaker 4: last night, RFK Jr., didn't reframe, but reminded Americans about
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  Speaker 4: how the Constitution was actually, in his terms, obliterated under
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  Speaker 4: Democrat control.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk about that.
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  Speaker 4: There's just, and of course, the 9-11 remembrances. Those and
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  Speaker 4: more as we get through a Friday morning leading into
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  Speaker 4: a big, hopefully, football weekend.
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  Speaker 3: We have to keep our eye on the skies there, Christopher.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's at least a chance for some storms tomorrow
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  Speaker 5: in the Midlands.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 5: Haven't looked at the upstate, need to do that too.
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  Speaker 5: And Charleston, yeah, I think, I mean, with the heat
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  Speaker 5: and humidity, it's always a chance in the afternoon.
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  Speaker 4: All right, we'll get to all that and your talkbacks
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  Speaker 4: off the iHeartRadio app at 629.
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  Speaker 1: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's morning news.
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  Speaker 4: All right, the poll that got my attention this morning, headline,
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  Speaker 4: South Carolina Republican pollster shows that health care costs Could
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  Speaker 4: be the defining issue in the 2026 elections. And this
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  Speaker 4: is just a survey of apparently South Carolina voters. And
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  Speaker 4: this is done by a guy named Walter Wetzel. Well-known
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  Speaker 4: Republican pollster. And pointed out here, quote, conducted by, on
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  Speaker 4: behalf of Cover SC Advocacy Group, And they picked Wetzel,
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  Speaker 4: they said, because he's, quote, among the best in the business.
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  Speaker 4: Some of the questions I– this is the thing that
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  Speaker 4: makes me a little bit nervous about these polls. It
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  Speaker 4: says informed queries where respondents are described the impact of
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  Speaker 4: policies before being asked to weigh in on them. So
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  Speaker 4: if I'm saying to you, for example, Henry McMaster did
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  Speaker 4: not expand Medicaid, and because of that– there are now
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  Speaker 4: rising costs that could have been covered by the federal government.
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  Speaker 4: Is that a problem for you? And people say, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, naturally, I mean, you're compassionate, if not for yourself,
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  Speaker 5: for others. So yes, you're going to say yes.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: And so they go through all that. And then, you know,
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: the big conclusion, according to Wetzel, is that this is
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: going to, quote, potentially seep into every competitive race across
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: this state, noting that Democrats recent strategy to run candidates
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: in every seat that they're eligible when you're framing it
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: in terms of what's in people's pockets. And that's when
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: you start to get people's attention. The implication being that
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Republicans in this state may be in trouble because we
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: didn't expand Medicaid. Now I will try to reframe the,
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: the argument because if you were to just look at
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: healthcare costs and, for the last 25 years or so
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: going back to 2000 and just look at here. And
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: I'm just going to look at this historical spending on
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: healthcare per person.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: This is with the government's help. Okay.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: In 2000, it was 4,008, excuse me, $ 4, 817. We were
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: rising until we got to 2010, where we were at
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: about $ 6, 500 per person, Barack Obama, And the Democrats passed
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: the laughable name, the Affordable Care Act, and promised that
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: it was going to drop health care costs for the
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: average American by $ 3, 000. That was the promise in 2010.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: And Americans supported it. Within two years, health care costs
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: had doubled. We're currently sitting right now. Let me go
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: to 2025 estimates. Right now, $ 17, 482 per person.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: You went from $ 6, 500.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: To $ 17, 000. And I know some people are saying, well,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: but what does that have to do with me? I mean,
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: I'm paying more out of my pocket. I'm told that
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: the federal government could cover more of that. The federal
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: government is $ 40 trillion in the hole. So, and by
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: the way, when the federal government covers it, they cover
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: it by raising your taxes. That's how they cover the thing.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: So the problem is not the fact that we didn't
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: expand Medicaid. The problem is that they implemented something that
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: drives up the costs. They drive it up by artificially
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: inflating the market. The market was artificially inflated by that act.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: The only thing that would actually help that nobody wants
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: to hear is to repeal and replace, which is what
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: the Republicans were saying for years.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: And what do you replace it with? You replace it
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: back with more free market. You drive the costs down
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: by incentivizing doctors to reopen. How many more doctors, we
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: lost tens of thousands of doctors across the country since
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: the affordable care act was implemented because of so many regulations,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: the bureaucracy is overwhelming. That's another reason that costs are up. I'm,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Right now, the Democrats apparently are winning this argument. If
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: this poll is to be believed, the Republicans are in trouble,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: not just in South Carolina, but all across the fruited plains.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: And as Mr.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Wetzel and the reporters point out, the, quote, recent cuts
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: in the Big Beautiful Bill have estimated by the Congressional
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Budget Office to cut $ 990 billion in Medicaid funding over
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: the next decade, resulting in some 10 million more uninsured
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: people nationwide by 2034. You put that kind of a
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: statistic out there, which is based on literally nothing, that
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: how would you know how many people are going to
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: be uninsured?
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I remember that Barack.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Obama and the non— they usually put nonpartisan before they put
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: CPO— The nonpartisan CBO estimated 100% coverage. Every American would
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: have insurance under the Affordable Care Act. No longer would
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: any family ever be threatened by a medical crisis moving forward.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: That was the beautiful safety net for all Americans.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: And yet what happens?
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: We have more and more Americans wiped out every day
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: because of a bad medical diagnosis. And that is directly
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: cause and effect. Barack Obama, Democrats, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: We've got to pass the bill to find out what's.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: In the bill.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: I didn't need it passed to know what was in
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: the bill. It was coming from a Marxist. So I
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: knew exactly what was in the bill. Our congressman, the
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: guy who represents us, Joe Wilson, famously stood up when
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Barack Obama lied to the people and said on a
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: national broadcast, a lot of people are saying we're going
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: to cover illegal immigrants or migrants.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: You lie when he said he did cover it. It
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: was in the bill.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: There's so many pieces of crap in that legislation that
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: cause everything to go haywire. So we are living with
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: the effects of what the Democrats wanted. And I don't
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: know how many times I can spell this playbook out.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: I wish we had a bigger audience. I wish we had,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: I wish all 5 million South Carolinians listened to us.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: The playbook has always been from the Democrats. This is,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: you can take this anywhere you want with that. Any
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: year you want to go back to. The playbook is
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: always create a massive problem for the American people. Get
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: them in some sort of anxiety, get them in some
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: sort of pain. And once they're in the pain, you
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: can then take more power by telling them we will
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: relieve the pain. The Affordable Care Act is the introduction
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: to what's called single payer or socialized medicine or whatever,
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: because when you're in enough pain, they'll say we can
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: make it go away. Right now you're paying a crap
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: load of money. How'd you like to pay nothing? And
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: then they've got you. Right now, they've got you teetering.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: We're like rope-a-doping right now. We're just barely standing up
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: over here. We're paying $ 17, 000, $ 18, 000 a year for our
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: health care right now. It's crazy the amount of money
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: that people are spending on health care. That's because they
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: did this. And whether or not it's subsidized by the
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: federal government or not, it's still your money. The taxes
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: are still coming out of your pockets. Once they get
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: you to single payer, all choice is gone. If you
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. How's your
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: doctor doing right now? He's probably retired. Or if you're
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: still seeing him, you're seeing him for about 15 seconds.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: It is ridiculous that we've gotten to this point. But
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: the Republicans have done a horrible job in messaging. Horrific
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: job by the Republicans in messaging. And they've not linked
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: the two together. It's like a prosecutor who can't show
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: you how this happened. You've got to prosecute the Democrats.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: RFK Jr. did a great job prosecuting the Democrats last night.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: We're going to get to that in just a minute.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: And your feedback, if you have any, go ahead and
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: hit the talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: It's now 642.
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  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 7: All right.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: I was just looking at Darlene Graham's ex-account, and she's
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: got a thing up there about Annie Andrews. And, I mean,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: of course, she's got other stories as well. But, you know,
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Annie Andrews, is going around South Carolina trying to position
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: herself as a moderate. And then Darlene asks the question,
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: I wonder if people know that she was offering free
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: prosthetics for trans kids. And then links it to a
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: story from the National Review. I didn't know that in 2023,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Annie Andrews had tweeted out, periodic reminder that I support
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: trans kids because I'm not an a-hole. She didn't put a,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: by the way, she said the whole word and then
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: goes on to talk about what we need to do
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: is as children reach puberty, gender affirming care, evidence-based gender
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: affirming care can include the prescription of hormone blockers so
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: that they don't go through puberty as they, I mean.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Are you serious lady?
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: That is, that is some dangerous stuff, but we'll talk
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: about more about that race coming up.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: You're listening to South Carolina's morning news.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: As a lot of people reflect on 9-11 today, if
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: you haven't seen the video that they did of the
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: drone light show to commemorate that in New York City,
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: I've put it up on my X account. It is
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: an unbelievable tribute to everyone, the first responders and all
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: who passed that day. It's really powerful stuff at Kelly
• 25:29
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• 25:35
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• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Welcome to Friday as we try to put some pep
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: in your step. I'm Kelly Nash. Good morning, Christopher Thompson.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: Good morning, Kelly.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to some college football this weekend. Hopefully
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: no storms will affect Gamecocks, but I guess that still
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: remains to be seen at this point.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're watching the forecast.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: And I know a lot of our listeners were last
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: night watching The RNC and their historic midterm convention. And
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: we just heard at the top of the hour a
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: lot of attention obviously paid to J.D.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Vance.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: I heard yesterday when he was walking into the Republican breakfast,
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: the group, whoever that group was at the breakfast, started
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: chanting 48 when they saw him. So that's their guy
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: to be the next president of the United States. And,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: you know, Donald Trump making his final push back. you know,
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: vote like I'm on the ballot, all that. So there's
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: a lot being talked about there. But the one thing
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: that I think that really I thought was the best
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: part of the night, RFK Jr. reminding us, reminding all
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: of us about how horrific 2021 really was.
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: 37 hours after President Biden took the oath of office,
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: he ordered Facebook and Instagram to remove my accounts in
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: order to prevent public debate. Democrats obliterated the second leg
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: of the First Amendment, the guaranteed right of assembly by
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: social distancing regulations that were completely unscience-based. Democrats violated the
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: third leg of the First Amendment, the freedom to worship.
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: They closed every church in our country for a year.
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: Who could imagine that would have ever happened? Democrats torpedoed
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: the Seventh Amendment right to jury trial. by giving liability
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: shields to the giant pharmaceutical companies. No matter how negligent
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: they were, no matter how reckless, no matter how toxic
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: the ingredients, no matter how grievous your injury, you could
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: not sue them. Democrats violated the Fifth Amendment by shutting
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: down three million businesses with no due process and no
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: just compensation.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Democrats shut down.
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: The Fourth Amendment, protection from unlawful searches and seizures, by
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: forcing Americans to disclose their medical information before they could
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: exercise their constitutional rights.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: The only bill of right that.
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: They left unscathed was the Second Amendment, and probably only
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: because there.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: Is a Second Amendment.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, that is a pretty good case right there,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: isn't it, Christopher? Hard to argue with what he said.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, not Americans. Human beings have a psychological disposition to,
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: that psychologists, I guess, refer to as rosy retrospection bias.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: And so that's why if you have like great grandparents
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: who lived through the depression, they'll talk about what a
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: great time it was. If you talk to somebody who
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: was in a war, they might not talk about the
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: bad stuff, but they'll remember some of the good things.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: And basically what rosy retrospection is, is the ability to
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: remember the times that you overcame something and you kind
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: of start to forget the either minor inconveniences or in
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: some instances, even some horrible things. And we have a
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: lot of Americans who don't remember how horrible 2021 was.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: And 2022 was pretty bad. If you were in a
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: lot of these Northern states, you need to be reminded
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: that the Democrats literally in his words, and again, 70
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: years of his life.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: This guy's a Democrat.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: He said the Democrat party obliterated the constitution temporarily and
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: but they obliterated it. That is, and that's the mainstream.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: That's not the DA. That's Steny Hoyer. That's Joe Biden.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: That's Nancy Pelosi. That's Chuck Schumer. They obliterated the Constitution
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: when given an opportunity. They are a power hungry, Marxist
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: leaning group. And now that they've got a more radical
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: fringe really pushing the narrative, if they ever get in
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: charge again, heaven help us all. And I'm very concerned
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: that we have these poll numbers coming out that show
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: more and more Americans, like the one we talked about
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: earlier this morning, blaming the Republicans for the high health
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: care costs. That is a Democrat problem. They created it.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: And they created it to put you in the bind
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: that you're in right now, the pain they wanted you
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: to feel that. They want you to feel, you know,
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: when they were, he talked about shutting down 3 million businesses,
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: 3 million. When he talked about closing the churches, I
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: remember there was a pastor in California who I can't
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: remember the name of the church or who that guy was,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: but he was a genius. and a smart aleck, which
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: is kind of a rarity for a pastor to be
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: a smart aleck, but they had allowed as a essential
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: business in California, the Democrats had allowed a strip club
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: to remain open, but they were closing down the church.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: So he installed a stripper's pole in his church.
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: And he said, we're open for business. Come, come bring
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: me your dollar bills. I mean, This is the kind
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: of insanity that we had to go through in order
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: to just live normal life. And I do appreciate the
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: fact that RFK Jr. reminds us the only one they
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: didn't go after was the Second Amendment because there is.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: A Second Amendment.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: And the Second Amendment is, again, for people who think
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: it's about hunting and all that, it allows that. That's
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: one of the benefits. But it was really designed for
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: you to be armed against the government when the government
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: overreaches its powers. That's the point of the Second Amendment.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: And I know there's, you know, Joe Biden, what did
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: he say that one time? Remember, you're going to need
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: like a missile to defend you. Okay, Joe, I understand
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: that I'm not, I'm no threat to like a Sikorsky
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: helicopter or something like that. But, you know, Americans have
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: a lot of guns. And if you're going to take
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: our freedoms, there's a lot of people who are willing
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: to raise a lot of hell and go out in
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: a bad way.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: When you come after us like that. And I think
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: RFK Jr. is correct.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: I think that it would have been far worse if
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: we didn't have weapons. What do you think, Christopher?
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: And it also would have been far worse if the
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: new Democrats, the Democrat socialists, were in power at the time.
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: As you pointed out, this was the mainstream Democrats who
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: were cutting off our rights. Imagine if the DSA would
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: have been in power at that point.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Scary, scary stuff. And again, just you need to be
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: reminded of it. If you're frustrated with Republicans, so are
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: a lot of us. But look at the other side
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: of the coin. Oh, that's a that's a nightmare. All right.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: If you have thoughts on that, let us know on
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: the talkback feature. It's 710 from the Midlands to the
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: low country.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's morning news.
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  Speaker 9: I'm not really concerned about these polls that you're talking about,
• 33:05
  Speaker 9: about the health care issue. I believe the Democrats have
• 33:09
  Speaker 9: lost their foundation of their party. More and more people
• 33:14
  Speaker 9: I've talked to have leaned more conservative since the last election.
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  Speaker 4: All right, I appreciate the talkback, Scott. And listen, love
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: to hear more talkbacks. Please use the iHeartRadio app so
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: we can get you on the show. Love to hear
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: more encouraging talkbacks like that. You know, look, I think
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: we're all guilty of... you know, just talking basically in
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: our circles, right? And so we can become numb to
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: whatever the general population is feeling. So to Scott's point, yes,
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: most of the people that I know feel as if
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: the Democrat Party has gone completely off the rails. And
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: it doesn't matter what they say anymore as far as
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: like what they're promising. They're not to be believed. That's
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: how most of the people I associate with feel about them. Although,
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: you know, sometimes in my travels, I'll come across a
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: legitimate Democrat and they'll be like, you're insane.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: You're the MAGA racist.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: And they'll call us the authoritarian party, which I always
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: find hysterical because the whole movement about republicanism is to
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: return the power to the people. It's to shrink government
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: and return the power to you. That is the exact
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: opposite of authoritarianism. The Democrats are the– if there was
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: either party that would be guilty of that, it would
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: be the Democrats, just how they want more government control.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: And they might– and look, again, a lot of the
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: older Democrats especially– they feel as if it's a force
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: for good that, you know, when you take the sum
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: parts of all of the society and you take all
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: that money and you put it into a pool and
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: then you have very wise people at the top, they
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: can distribute that money in a way that'll benefit all
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: of us. That's their concept. It has never worked, but
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: that's their, their, their belief and their hopes and their concepts.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: And so I understand it. I just always point out
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: it never works. So, that's where we have a difference.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: I think that if people are able to keep more
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: of their own money and we shrink the size of government,
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: then we have more freedoms. But when I see polls
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: like the one that we were talking about earlier this morning,
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: the one that came out yesterday, South Carolina Republican pollster
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: shows health care costs could be the defining issue for
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: the 2026 elections.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: And you see so many South.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Carolinians apparently, allegedly in that poll, very upset with Henry
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: McMaster for not expanding Medicaid and not understanding the basic
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: economics and Republicans not doing a very good job of
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: pushing back on that narrative. It's always going to be
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: about the economy. And if I feel poor and I
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: can blame somebody for me feeling poor, affordability is the issue.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: I just use that in quotations because that's kind of
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: like been the new term of the last couple of years,
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: the affordability issue. And you can blame it on the
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Republicans because they're in power, not only in this state,
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: but at the federal level. that's a dangerous target on
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: their back, and I think they really need to do
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: a better job of redirecting that narrative.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: But I'm not running anybody's campaign, am I?
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: Speaking of campaigns, I don't know if you saw it.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: There was a Harvard-Harris poll that came out last week
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: that shows that Kamala Harris is still the leading candidate
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: among Democrats. Registered voters following the Democrat Party say— Harris
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: followed by Buttigieg and AOC a distant third.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: I was listening to Clay and Buck on WVOC and WSC.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: I was listening to both stations at the same time yesterday.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: And Clay and Buck were joking about that in the
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: sense that Clay is convinced that she is going to
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: be the nominee. And Buck is like, I guess he's
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: on Buck Island right now again, because they even had
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: Ben Shapiro on the show. And Ben's like, I think
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: that Clay is not crazy. I think it's more likely
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: than not that she is the nominee.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: So I don't know why you go digging into that. Well, twice.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: Oh, how many, how many, uh, actual elections has she
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: won in her life? I mean, she did win the
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Senate race. That was true. Um, But basically, she's just
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: been dragged along. Go back and look at the Willie
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Brown stories and how he had to drag her across
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: the finish line for the AG up there in California.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: She's a horrible candidate, and I hope that she is
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: the nominee. I really do.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: What would the DSA do if she were nominated? Would
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: they break off at that point? I mean, they're not
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: going to be happy with her. She's not nearly leftist enough.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: I don't think that– remember when Jimmy Carter used it
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: as an insult on Donald Trump and he said, I
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: would prefer Trump as the candidate because he's malleable. That
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: was the phrase that he used, meaning he's moldable. His
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: ideology can shift. I think Kamala Harris is almost like Plato.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: She'll just do whatever.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter to her as long as I got
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: the seat and I get to wear my cool power suits.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: That's all she really wants, I think. Maybe we could
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: just make her think she's already won. Give her like
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: a fake Oval Office and tell her she won. She
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: might buy that anyway.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: We'll be back in.
• 38:26
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• 38:28
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• 38:30
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• 38:33
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• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Last hour, we were talking about how Darlene Graham was
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: reminding people of Annie Andrews' pretty radical transgender positions from
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: just a couple of years ago. Coming up, speaking of trans,
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: it appears as if Darlene Graham and Annie Andrews swapped
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: positions yesterday. I'll explain more about that in just a second.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: And we've got a new voter scandal out of California.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Thank you to ABC News for reporting on this. That
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: is somewhat breaking news and not shocking. I'll point that out.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Never shocked when I hear about voter fraud. We'll get
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: into that and more. And coming up a little bit
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: later on, we've got a special guest who was. an
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: incredible story of what he went through on 9-11.
• 39:34
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• 39:37
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• 39:40
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• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Hi there, and good morning. Welcome to Friday, 732. This
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: is Kelly Nash, Christopher Thompson here. We are, you know,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: obviously studying the South Carolina political scene, and we had
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: some back and forth recently, as expected, between.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Darlene Graham and Annie Andrews. And yesterday, Darlene reminding us
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: of Dr. Andrews and her rather radical positions on transgendered
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: youth and how she was... all for the puberty blockers
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: and calls that like loving care to stop a human beings,
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: natural progression into puberty because they don't want to be
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: that gender.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: So you're not getting any of that on any Andrew's
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: new TV ads.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: No, no, you don't see that too much, do you?
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: No, but, uh, but speaking of trans meaning we're switching, it,
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: it appears to me, Christopher, that we have a, a
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: switch that happened yesterday. So, um, Darlene comes out and
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: strongly support, quote, Donald Trump's proposal of giving a $ 5, 000
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: check to every adult in America is an incredible example
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: of President Trump once again delivering for Americans, adding that
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: the Trump dividend program has the potential to put meaningful
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: relief directly into the hands of families when they need
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: it most. I think I know obviously Darlene would know
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: her brother better than I, but I interviewed Lindsey Graham
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: probably 40.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Times in my life.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: And I think I know how he would have answered
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: any question regarding that, which would be to Bob and
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: weave right out of it.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: He'd have been like, well, yeah, it's an interesting thing.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: He's an out of the box thinker. And it'd be
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: interesting to see how far he can get that to
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: the Congress. But anyway, let's focus on Iran. You know,
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: he would just Bob and weave. He wouldn't really address
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: that issue because he knows it's a, it's, And he
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: wasn't a fiscal conservative.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: But anybody understands if you– again, the raw figures is
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: $ 3 trillion.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: If you were to take $ 3 trillion and just drop
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: it into the American economy.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Right now, it would be devastating. It would devastate the
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: American economy. So he would know better.
• 42:08
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: But so Darlene is saying she's for it and thinks
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: it's an awesome idea. And then you've got Annie Andrews yesterday.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: While Darlene Graham parties in Dallas with the insiders who
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: handpicked her, I've traveled across the state this past week
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: meeting with farmers who can't afford diesel, moms who can't
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: afford to send their kids to daycare, and families who
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: can't afford groceries.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: It would seem to me. The Democrat, in this instance,
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Annie Andrews, would be saying, I am for a $ 5, 000
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: direct deposit to these people. True. That should be her position,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: and Darlene Graham should be saying, this is horrible. Yeah.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: But as I thought about it some more, Christopher, I
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: think maybe I figured out the difference. So a Democrat
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: probably doesn't want to send you the money directly. They
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: would rather it go into a government program.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: Of some kind.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: So like when she says, you know, farmers who can't
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: afford diesel, moms who can't afford their kids to daycare,
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: and families who can't afford groceries.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: How would Mom Donnie handle that?
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: Mom Donnie would say, free groceries, free daycare, and maybe
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: even go as far as free diesel.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: No, he probably wouldn't.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: He'd say, we're going to transfer all the farm tractors
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: to some sort of solar operation. You know what I'm saying?
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: And then that will be free. We'll give you some
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: free solar panels for your tractors. That would be the
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Democrat solution. So again, as they continue to try to
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: limit your freedoms, it's obvious to me that the Democrats
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: don't even want to give you a direct deposit because
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: that's too much freedom for you. Even if it was
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: ruining the economy, that's still too much autonomy. They want
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: to take all the choice. But this is, I think
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: we're living in some ludicrous times right now.
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: Well, if you're Darlene Graham, you can't afford to oppose,
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: you can't even afford to throw a little bit of
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: shade on Donald Trump at this point, can you? I mean,
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: you've essentially bonded your campaign to him, and you owe
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: him every bit of loyalty just simply for coming to
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: Myrtle Beach, you know, a couple of weeks ago.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: And Trump was talking about that, I think, yesterday, maybe
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: it was the day previous, when he was talking about
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: how if you watch the Sunday shows after I did
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: my rally.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Myrtle Beach, the fake news.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Fake news.
• 44:31
  Speaker 10: They were saying there was nobody in the back of
• 44:33
  Speaker 10: the room. That room was absolutely packed. And she is
• 44:38
  Speaker 10: a senator right now because I spoke on her behalf.
• 44:41
  Speaker 10: The people loved it. They love it.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: So he thinks a lot of it. And you're right.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: I don't think she should be. I don't think she would,
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: nor should she throw shade at the presidency. But you
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: can also bob and weave.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: True.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: You don't– what do you think of the $ 5, 000 proposal,
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: Senator Graham? I think it's a very interesting idea. We'll
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: have to take a better look at that. But let
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: me refocus our attention on the matters that– whatever. You
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: just kind of move on.
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: Well, as she's reminded us more than once, she's not
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: a politician.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Well– Yeah, I understand. I understand.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: But again, that is a role reversal where the Democrat
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: doesn't want you to have the relief and the Republican
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: is saying, let me send you some money.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: I don't like either one of the positions, by the way.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: I don't like either one of them.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: But maybe you do.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: Maybe you think one of these candidates have perfectly nailed it,
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: or maybe you are frustrated with the way the whole
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: political process is playing out. That's why we have the
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: talkback feature for you to air your grievances or celebrate
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: the wins, whatever. Use the microphone on the I heart
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: radio app.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: It's seven 38.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's morning news.
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: Let's say instead of sending it all at one time,
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: they send it throughout the two year period, little, uh,
• 46:02
  Speaker 7: segments of the population at a time. And if he
• 46:05
  Speaker 7: wants to do this, let's help him work out a
• 46:09
  Speaker 7: system where it will bless the economy.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, look, like I said yesterday, I appreciate the
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: president's out of the box thinking. And I like her
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: out of the box thinking as well, where maybe it's
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: not $ 5, 000 all at once. And maybe it doesn't even
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: go to all areas of the country at the same time.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: And So on and so forth, trying to help keep inflation,
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: which would skyrocket with $ 3 trillion suddenly in the economy.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: It would skyrocket, and so the value of your dollars
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: becomes weaker and weaker in the economy. Ultimately, it's not
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: Trump's call. because Congress controls the purse strings. He doesn't
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: have the authority to issue that without the approval of Congress.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: And we've already seen numerous Republicans already against it. Who
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: knows what would happen in 2027? Yeah, that's right. 2027
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: is when the checks, I guess, would be issued if
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: they somehow had an overwhelming victory in the House. which
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: is not expected, but again, maybe the $ 5, 000 offer is
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: enough to swing the election. Speaking of swinging elections, let
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: me move over to California, where the FBI yesterday announced
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: that they had arrested a guy who goes by the
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: name of Lord.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Lord. Oh, he.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: Must be powerful.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: Lord James Brass, age 47, working in cahoots with two others,
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: Courtney Price, 49, and Jatisha Heron, age 33, all three
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: of them, What they were doing is they were going
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: to Skid Row, which, again, isn't designated place in Los Angeles.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: I find that hysterical that they have a place that
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: they've designated as Skid Row. And they were paying the
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: homeless to what they first off before they got the
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: homeless to sign these things and do these things. They
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: went and they found out the identities of people who
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: were registered to vote but hadn't been voting. then they
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: took those things down to the homeless, had the homeless
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: basically become those people. Now, they were being paid, according
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: to this, by the FBI. The FBI says they were
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: being paid by a petition company. What is a petition company?
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: But in California, if you want something on the ballot,
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: an initiative or something like that, you have to have
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: X amount of registered voters signing your petition. So this
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: would be, I guess, apparently a way to subvert the
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: actual voters to get stuff onto a ballot, the conspiracy
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: to commit identity fraud. And basically, each one of these
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: guys is looking at five years in prison on each count.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: So it looks like there's a whole lot of counts here.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: So we'll see how this plays out. But Kash Patel
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: says protecting elections from this kind of interference is our
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: top priority. And as a federal prosecutor, this scheme undermines
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: the confidence that voters have in our election systems.
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: They should lose their right to vote, too. You subvert
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: our voting system. You should lose the right.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Absolutely. I don't know if that's part of the
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: penalty or not.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: But, again, this is not the first The first time
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: I heard of this scheme, so to speak, I had
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: to go look it up. It was May of this year,
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: May 18th. A woman, what was her name? Brenda Lee
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: Armstrong of Marina Del Rey.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Age 64. And now she admitted to the felony. of
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: paying people. She was paying the people in what we
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: would refer to as Lucy cigarettes. She'd give the homeless
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: a cigarette to sign up on this thing.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, this voter fraud stuff has been happening in
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: California for a while, and I'm glad that the FBI
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: is cracking down on it. We need more of it
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: because I don't think that the elections are very secure,
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: especially in California. Any thoughts on that? Talkback features open
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: at 747.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: Rob from Charleston.
• 50:05
  Speaker 9: Just wondering why no one has called the Democrats out
• 50:08
  Speaker 9: on trying to use.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: The high gas prices as a talking point.
• 50:13
  Speaker 9: Aren't they the ones that wanted high gas prices with
• 50:16
  Speaker 9: all the electric car.
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: Mandates and banning domestic oil drilling?
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Rob from Charleston. And you know what?
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: You can't ask that question ever again because you just
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: called them out. live on 94.3 WSC and 103.5 and
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: 560 WVOC. They have been called out, and he is
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: absolutely correct. Barack Obama said it will necessitate.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: That was the word he used.
• 50:44
  Speaker 11: It's going to necessitate that fuel prices get so high
• 50:47
  Speaker 11: that it makes it more sense for the Americans to
• 50:50
  Speaker 11: switch over to EVs. And once that happens, we're going
• 50:54
  Speaker 11: to see more and more electric vehicles on the road
• 50:57
  Speaker 11: because Energy will be too expensive otherwise. Again, the plan
• 51:03
  Speaker 11: has always been, the playbook for the Democrats is to
• 51:06
  Speaker 11: put you in pain and then give you a solution
• 51:10
  Speaker 11: out of it.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: And the solution is usually worse, just being honest. The
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: solution is usually worse. So, Rob, you did a great job.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: Thank you for reminding us here in the audience. that
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: it is the Democrats who announced it back in 2010,
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: that they wanted to drive up oil costs. They wanted
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: to drive up all the vehicle costs so that you
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: would then switch to electric. And they got half of it.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: They got, they did, they did drive up the oil costs.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: They just didn't get us to switch.
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: No, we haven't switched and we are feeling the pain.
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: And that's why some of these Democrat talking points will
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: be effective in November.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: That and the fact that, I mean, diesel prices have,
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: they shot up again yesterday and, I mean, as we know,
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: everything runs on diesel and everything we get, we buy
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: from groceries to everything else is delivered via diesel.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: And as I hate to give her a salute, but
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: Annie Andrews points out, a lot of the tractors run
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: on diesel, which means that your food costs are going
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: to have to go up. And in addition to the
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: fact that, as Christopher points out, the trucks bringing them
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: to the stores run on diesel.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: It's not great right now. It's not great.
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: But going back to Iran, maybe we'll get into what
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: Scott Besson had to say yesterday, coming up a little
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: bit later on, because Scott Besson, I think, is bringing
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: more pain to Iran to try to help shorten this
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: experience for all of us. Also coming up after the
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: top of the hour, not directly after the top of
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: the hour, though, we have an individual who was a
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: part of 9-11 and has an incredible story of how
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: he had to get to the Twin Towers to cover it.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: as America commemorates the 25th anniversary of 9-11. So much
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: more to come on South Carolina's Morning News.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Your news, traffic, weather, and information stations. This is South
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Carolina's Morning News on 103.5 FM, 560 AM, WVOC, and 94.3 WSC.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: And this is Kelly Nash with Christopher Thompson. Last year,
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: Donald Trump made an announcement.
• 53:12
  Speaker 10: I want every Republican, if you can gerrymander your states legally, legally,
• 53:18
  Speaker 10: we love it legal, we're going to gerrymander just like
• 53:22
  Speaker 10: the Dems. We're going to make it so that Republicans.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Get their fair share.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: And we here in South Carolina did not. gerrymandered the
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: maps fought it out but did not did not actually
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: get around to it now maybe that's a good thing
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: and I say that because I'm looking at the state
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: of Missouri Missouri is in complete chaos right now if
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: you haven't seen this story so what happened was in
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: December they passed their new maps they went ahead and
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: had their primaries and and you know as they're having
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: their primaries they're voting with the new maps that were
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: legally passed 219 to 214 in the house And then some,
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: you know, group of purple haired libs, people, not politicians,
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: they're in some sort of court battle. They get in
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: front of the Missouri Supreme Court and the Missouri Supreme
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: Court says, now this is after we've already had the primaries. No,
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  Speaker 4: you got to use the old map. Well, there was
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  Speaker 4: a guy, Denny Hoskins, that guy, he's the secretary of state.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: He's like, but we've already had the primaries. using this map.
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: So we don't know who would have won the primaries
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  Speaker 4: if we had used a different map.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: And they said, don't care. Don't care.
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: Well, then another group goes to the Eighth Circuit Court,
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: like around St. Louis, and the Eighth Circuit Court says,
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: the Supreme Court of Missouri, they're wrong.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: You can't go back.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: And as a matter of fact, it's a direct order
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: now from the district, the federal district court. The federal
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: court is now saying you must use the new maps. Well,
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: then Yesterday, two things happened. The state Supreme Court brought
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: Denny Hoskins in and found him in contempt. He's now
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: in contempt for not using the maps that they told
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: him to use. At the same time, it went all
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: the way to the Supreme Court of the United States yesterday.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: And the Supreme Court yesterday, nobody signed it as far as.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Like, we don't know who voted. We don't know how
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: it went.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: We just know that there was a piece put out
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: saying you had to go back to the.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: Old maps now.
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: That's Brett Kavanaugh because that would be his area.
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: But there is no signature as far as who signed it,
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: who's in on it, who voted, was there any dissents,
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: anything like that. So it is what it is. But
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: now what do you do if you're a primary voted?
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: You are disenfranchised possibly. We don't know if we have
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: the right candidates here. So this is chaos in Missouri,
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: and this has all played.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: Out in, like, the last week.
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: And, yeah, I mean, do you go back and start
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: the primaries all over again with the old maps?
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: It appears that they're just going to push on and
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: act like they got it right with the primaries.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: And they'd probably be pretty close, I would think. Although,
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: if you saw that Indiana race, that was crazy.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: It was three-vote differences. And then they did a recount
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: and it flipped because they threw out some of the ballots.
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: And then the state Supreme Court, or maybe it was
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: the federal Supreme Court, overruled it and said that because
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: the person who challenged the recount said that they were
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: throwing them out because of clerk problems that were brought
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: on by mail-in ballots. That's why I always warn, if
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: you care about your vote, don't use the mail-in ballots
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: because the mail, we never know where the mail is
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: going to go. We don't know if you got counted
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: until later on. All these problems happen. And that is
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: another instance that they had in Indiana. So anyway, lots
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: going on in the voting world. We'll get to more
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: of that and maybe some more of your talkbacks as well.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: If you're using the iHeartRadio app, it's 807.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: From the Midlands to the Lowcountry, this is South Carolina's
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: Morning News.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: This is Gene from Lexington.
• 57:04
  Speaker 9: To be clear, South Carolina already gerrymandered the district to
• 57:07
  Speaker 9: give Jim Clyburn his district.
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: Well, thank you, Gene, from Lexington. And you're correct. And
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: for people who are new to the area or maybe
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: don't recall the 1990 census, we were going to get
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: another district. And so because this is I always laugh
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: about this when people say, you know, the feds are
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: not supposed to interfere with state politics when it comes
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: to setting up elections. South Carolina and a lot of
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: southern states, because of how Democrats ran elections for decades
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: around here.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: We've always had the feds involved.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: And so we did get a DOJ under the Voting
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: Rights Act saying that South Carolina had to create a
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: majority minority district because blacks at that time were voting
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: at like 97 percent Democrat. They felt like this would
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: ensure that a Democrat would finally win. And this is, again,
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: from the federal government ordering us to do that. And
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: so they created this crazy looking district, which. did serve
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: kind of two purposes. One, it did make sure that
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: you're going to have a Democrat in that district for
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: as long as it's like that, probably. And then it
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: also made sure that the other districts around it weren't
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: very competitive anymore. So that's how you got to where
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: you are. That was under the order of the federal
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: government that we had that created. So you are correct.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: It was gerrymandered specifically to help out James Clyburn. Also
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: had the side effect of helping Republicans in the surrounding districts.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: All right. So there's a little quick history lesson for us.
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: Thanks for bringing that to our attention as we talked
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: about gerrymandering and how we didn't do it here and
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: the problems that they're actually currently having out in Missouri
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: after attempting to gerrymander.
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: Goodness gracious. The confusion is unbelievable.
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: Imagine if you voted and then you were told, no,
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: wrong map.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: And then.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the candidate that you voted for, you're not able
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: to vote for in the actual election.
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: And yeah, now you may be told wrong candidate.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: Wrong map, now wrong candidate.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So you're back in this district again.
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: It's it's crazy so we covered that one in the
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: first segment all right we're gonna take a quick break
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: and uh when we come back as we remember september
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: 11th um there's a lot of powerful stories but this
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: individual uh has a unique powerful story because he was
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: a reporter who was trying to get to the World
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: Trade Center, not get away from it, get to it.
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: And what he went through was an unbelievable ordeal. We're
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: going to talk to him next. Maybe get some of
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: your thoughts as well on the talkback feature.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: It's 814.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's Morning News on 103.5 FM and
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: 560 AM, WVOC, Columbia, and 94.3 WSC, Charleston.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: Hi there. It's Kelly Nash. It's 820.
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: And as we remember what happened 25 years ago, we're
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: joined by a New York reporter named Tim Scheld.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: Hi, Tim. How are you this morning?
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  Speaker 12: Morning, Kelly.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: How are you?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: I'm, you know, like a lot of Americans of a
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: certain age. I was thinking about this earlier. It's like
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: you're under 30. You at best have foggy memories, little blurbs.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: But for those of us who lived through it, it
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: was quite a day. But When I saw your story,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: Tim went on to become the news director for, in
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: my opinion, the best news radio shows up there. I mean,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: there was nothing comparing to 880. I know 1010 Winds
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: was great. I thought you guys had a better product.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: Much appreciated, Kelly.
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  Speaker 12: Thank you.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but before you were the news director, you were
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: a reporter for ABC Radio.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: And on September 11th, can you walk us through, because
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: I've heard this story several times, and I still can't
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: get my mind around what actually happened to you.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 12: Well, I mean, you know what reporters are like. And
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 12: when there's a story and you need to get there,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 12: you do all that you can. So that morning or
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 12: that day was primary day in New York City. They
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 12: were having an election to see who was going to
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 12: be who were going to be the candidates to run
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 12: for mayor of New York in November. to succeed Rudy Giuliani,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 12: who was the current mayor whose term was expiring. So
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 12: I was going to work late that night. I was
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 12: going to be in the city till 9, 10 o'clock.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 12: So I got a late start, and I was doing
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 12: some errands, pulling out of my driveway in northern New Jersey,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 12: about 15 miles away from the lower Manhattan area, and
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 12: heard that the first plane hit. And I said, oh, no.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 12: And it didn't sound like an accident. It sounded like
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 12: a big gash that was in the World Trade Center
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 12: and It was a bright, beautiful blue sky that day.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 12: And I said, no way somebody went off course. And
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 12: so I just started rushing to the city. and found
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 12: that all of the entrances were closed. All of the
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 12: highways were shut tight for this emergency.
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  Speaker 4: I think for South Carolinians, it's important for them to
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: understand Manhattan is an island, and the only way to
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: get into it is through a tunnel or a bridge.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 12: Bridge or a tunnel, yeah.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: And you're in New Jersey at the time, so it's
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: not possible for you to get to Manhattan if the.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Roads are closed.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 12: And I have to get there, Kelly. This is a
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 12: story that I need to be at. And so I
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 12: spent a few hours trying to get, you know, different...
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 12: Plans played out, and what I ended up doing was
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 12: devising a strategy with my wife where she bought me
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 12: her mountain bike, met me at a local shopping mall,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 12: and I went back into the city to the spot
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 12: where the road was closed, parked the vehicle in the Bronx,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 12: New York, and then rode a bicycle there. into Manhattan
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 12: and had a bike for the next many days with
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 12: a lock that allowed me to get pretty close to
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 12: ground zero and access the areas that, because no vehicles
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 12: were allowed in for weeks, months. And so, yeah, I
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 12: made my way in. And others had similar stories where
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 12: they got in by boat. They paid cash to get
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 12: a ferry captain to get them. But it really was
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 12: a day where you know, those kinds of memories come
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 12: shooting back.
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  Speaker 4: And Tim, uh, for anybody who's ever rode like the
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: six train or whatever, you understand Yankee stadiums in the Bronx.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: And now you're, you're not even just coming into Manhattan.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: You're going to these, it's like the Southern most part
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: of Manhattan. Do you know how many miles you rode
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: that day?
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 12: Uh, yeah, I'm going to say 15 or so. Um, and, and, um,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 12: and what I found out, Kelly, I didn't know, uh,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 12: because when I'm in the car, I don't pay attention
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 12: to it. But there are some pretty significant hills in
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 12: upper Manhattan around Columbia University. And I realized how out
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 12: of shape I was. But while I was doing that,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 12: I was stopping and reporting. So I was on the
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 12: air for ABC network radio. We were in live coverage
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 12: all day long. And so, you know, when I would
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 12: see something and see an opportunity to get to a
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 12: pay phone, because cell phones weren't working at that point
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 12: after the towers came down, I would describe the scene
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 12: that I was seeing, whether it were parents going to
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 12: schools and bringing their, escorting their young children, hugging them
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 12: tighter as they were walking away, or packs of dust-covered
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 12: people who had escaped lower Manhattan trying to find a
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 12: way to get out because you couldn't even get out
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 12: that easily. And even the scene of fighter jets. patrolling
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 12: the Hudson River was, you know, it's burned in my memory,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 12: both the emotion of, oh, my God, you know, we're
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 12: at war. And then, thank God, the good guys are here.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: We have Tim Scheldt on the phone, who is the
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: former news director for NewsRadio 880, but at the time
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: and 25 years ago was the reporter. And I think,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: you know, one of the things that I think is
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: important that all Americans recognize is that We have been
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: frustrated with our media for a long time. But the
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: actual role of journalism is so important and it's being diminished.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that it's a Trump thing or
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: it's a right-wing thing or it's a left-wing thing. I'm
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: saying that just the way media is playing out, we
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: are shrinking the journalism pool, so to speak. And in
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: order for any– if you all want to have your.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: Social media debates or whatever, you still need the journalist
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: to report.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I appreciate you saying that, Kelly, because I do
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 12: think that, and I teach journalism now at a school
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 12: locally in New Jersey, Montclair State University, and I love
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 12: the young people. I love their energy. I love their passion.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 12: It's the same passion that I see that I had
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 12: in my own belly when I was getting involved in
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 12: the news business, and I do believe that what we
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 12: need to teach everybody is critical thinking and not sharing
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 12: information that can't be verified. That's That's how I grew
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 12: up as a reporter. You know, facts mattered. And on
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 12: that day, facts really mattered, because if you spread misinformation
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 12: on a day on the worst day in America's history,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 12: you could have done some real damage. So the first
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 12: tenet of journalism, Kelly, as you probably know, is do
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 12: no harm.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: Tell the truth.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: Well, Tim, I know you're a busy man today. A
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: lot of people want to talk to you about your
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: incredible tales. And we appreciate you making some time for
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: us here in South Carolina.
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  Speaker 12: Good to talk to you.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: Best of luck. All right.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: That was Tim Sheld again, the reporter who actually rode
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: his bicycle like 15 miles into Manhattan in order to
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: be there.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: Christopher, some incredible stories out of that day.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: What an incredible story he had.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: And what he did to get the story and to
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: get it on the air, because as we pointed out
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: earlier in the fog of war, we didn't know what
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: was going on. The only thing we had were people
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: on the ground who could tell us definitively, okay, this
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: has happened. This has not happened.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: And, you know, I, I like to think that radio
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: plays a key part in a lot of people's lives.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: And so when you talk about the, again, I, the
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: way I feel about elections, the way I feel about politicians,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: the closer to the people, the better national shows are fantastic.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: I love national radio shows and I'm thrilled whenever I
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: get a chance to fill in on one, but local
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: radio is better.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: Regional radio is great. It's better than national.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: Um, You know, Glenn Beck, I think, I don't know
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: if everybody knows that story, but he was live on
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: the air that morning. But back in those days, Premier
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: Radio Network was running, what was her name?
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: Dr. Laura.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: And so they preempted Dr. Laura, even though a lot
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: of radio stations wanted to get out of their Dr.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: Laura contracts back then. They couldn't because they had signed contracts.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: And so the mood of talk radio was switching more
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: to news, and she wasn't news. She was more lifestyle.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: And Glenn Beck just got turned on because he was
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: live in Tampa at that time. And all of a
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: sudden he's popping up on radio stations and they're like,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: oh my gosh, now what's happening? Because it was Dr.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: Laura talking about how to manage your kids or something.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: And then it switches to, and the Twin Towers have
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: been struck. And the next day is when the Glenn
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: Beck program was launched because he signed a deal with
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: Premier and a lot of people wanted Glenn Beck. And
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: Glenn Beck has been a very important voice in the
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: American political scene for 25 years.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: Sean Hannity started his show the day before on September 10th.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: That's when his national show launched.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: So radio, the opportunity for people to chime in. Maybe
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: we'll get to some of your talkbacks. If you've got
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: memories on 9-11, please use the talkback feature. We'd love
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: to get you on the air as we, you know,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: commemorate one of the most important dates in our lives. Again,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: some people would say, you know, Pearl Harbor was a
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: bigger event or whatever. But in our lifetimes, September 11th
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: is probably at this point, the biggest date that most
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: of us have lived through.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: So, We'll talk about that and more. It's 829.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's morning news.
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  Speaker 7: Good morning, guys.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: It's Donna in Columbia. I had reason to be in
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: New York City on business December after 9-11. It was amazing.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: how different New York was. I never was scared, felt
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: safe everywhere we went. Then we visited Ground Zero on
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 6: our last day, and it was unbelievable. No words can
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: express what we saw. I do wish that America could
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 6: come back together like we were then, though.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: It was wonderful.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: Boy, that's a good point, Donna, that the emotions, or
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: excuse me, the politics seemed a lot less important suddenly.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: We were all on Team USA. And that is going
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: to be hard to recapture because we now have so
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: many people on the left who are clearly anti-USA.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: Team Al Qaeda.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to go that far, but yeah. I'll
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: do it. Yeah, there's Christopher. You're correct, I think, though.
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  Speaker 4: I think a lot of them were seeing that movement
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  Speaker 4: of the radical Muslims who are Team Al Qaeda, unfortunately.
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  Speaker 5: At the very least, they blame the United States for
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  Speaker 5: the attacks by Al Qaeda.
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  Speaker 4: There was a small outcry on the fringe left back
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  Speaker 4: in 2001 that said we had that coming. And I
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  Speaker 4: remember there was like a professor somewhere who was... basically
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  Speaker 4: lecturing that. And then the problem was, could you fire
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  Speaker 4: him because he was tenured and so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 4: But that, that drumbeat has gotten much louder in the last, what,
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  Speaker 4: two years or so. You're hearing a lot more people
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  Speaker 4: talking about how you caused this by, by your actions. This,
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  Speaker 4: this is, you know, I don't want to say we
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  Speaker 4: were like, but it's like, it's like when the abuser
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  Speaker 4: blames the abusee, you're forcing me to beat you. We
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  Speaker 4: didn't do anything to bin Laden. Bin Laden decided that
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  Speaker 4: he hated America. By the way, he'd hated America his
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  Speaker 4: whole life. It's not like it was, well, I shouldn't
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  Speaker 4: say that. He was radicalized a little bit later on
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  Speaker 4: in life. But I just was reading this story, Christopher.
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  Speaker 4: I thought this was interesting. Up in Walhalla, they have
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  Speaker 4: the largest 9-11 memorial in South Carolina. And it started,
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  Speaker 4: I guess, back in 2011. There was parts of the
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  Speaker 4: World Trade Center that had been taken out and they
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  Speaker 4: were trying to figure out places they could display it.
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  Speaker 4: And so some people went to the, at that time,
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  Speaker 4: the fire chief and said, would you be interested?
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  Speaker 3: And he said, yes.
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  Speaker 4: And so it took them a while to put it together,
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  Speaker 4: but they ended up getting parts from Shanksville. They've got
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  Speaker 4: parts from the Pentagon. They've put all this together in Walhalla,
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  Speaker 4: which is like, what? Walhalla has the largest 9-11 tribute
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  Speaker 4: in the state. And it's beautiful when I'm seeing the
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  Speaker 4: photographs in the Post and Courier. And it's right that
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  Speaker 4: all 50 states should have tributes to that.
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  Speaker 3: Because it was an attack on the country.
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  Speaker 4: Even though South Carolina didn't directly get hit, everybody probably
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  Speaker 4: knows somebody who was at the Pentagon or in Pennsylvania
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  Speaker 4: or New York.
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  Speaker 3: It affected everybody.
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  Speaker 4: And it was not only do you might not or
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  Speaker 4: you might know somebody, it was an attack on people.
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  Speaker 4: the United States of America. They want to end America.
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  Speaker 4: And that desire to end us has not ended. If anything,
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  Speaker 4: it's stronger now than ever. And Iran is a big
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  Speaker 4: part of that. Iran is one of the, or is
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  Speaker 4: the leading fundraiser, basically, for terrorists. When you look at the,
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  Speaker 4: I call them the Triple H gang. You got the Houthis, Hezbollah, Hamas.
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  Speaker 4: Those are all direct proxies of Iran. And they reign
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  Speaker 4: terror Again, right now they're still focused on Israel because
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  Speaker 4: that's the little Satan. But they're still looking at us,
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  Speaker 4: the big Satan. They want to take all of us out.
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  Speaker 5: And, you know, for all those who think, all right,
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  Speaker 5: the United States, you know, kind of felt immune to
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  Speaker 5: terror attacks, we did.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, our shores, we'd never seen anything like this
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  Speaker 5: in our shores. And Iran would love to do something
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  Speaker 5: like that again. Just because we've, you know, greatly improved
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  Speaker 5: airline security doesn't mean they can't find another way in.
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  Speaker 4: Well, huge thanks to the Department of Homeland Security and
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  Speaker 4: the military and how they've kept us safe all these
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  Speaker 4: years since then. And again, like I've always said, the
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  Speaker 4: terrorists only have to be right once. And so far,
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  Speaker 4: they haven't been right really again. So we've had the
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  Speaker 4: shoe bomber and some other very isolated incidents, but nothing
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  Speaker 4: like September 11th has been repeated, thankfully.
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  Speaker 3: So we will remember that for the rest of our lives.
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  Speaker 3: It's 838.
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  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 4: It's funny how we can look at the same issue
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  Speaker 4: and have completely different opinions of what we're looking at.
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  Speaker 4: WIS reporting that DSS Chief External Affairs Officer Conley Ann
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  Speaker 4: Ragley reports that the number of babies surrendered in South
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  Speaker 4: Carolina under Daniels' law is, for the first time, at
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  Speaker 4: record-breaking levels, and also the first time we've been in
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  Speaker 4: double digits. So 10 babies have been surrendered this year
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  Speaker 4: at the Department of Social Services. And I'd say that's
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  Speaker 4: a good thing. By the way, Daniel's Law was put
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  Speaker 4: into place back in 2001. Since then, 87 babies in
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  Speaker 4: South Carolina have been surrendered. And basically what that means
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: is the mom or somebody said, we can't take care
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  Speaker 4: of this. And they bring it and they just, there's
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  Speaker 4: no judgment. You just hand the baby over.
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  Speaker 5: To a hospital, fire department, police station, or church if
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  Speaker 5: there's someone worshiping in the church at the time.
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  Speaker 3: And there you go.
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  Speaker 4: It's interesting because I'm seeing this play out on social
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  Speaker 4: media where there's so many people who are like, and
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  Speaker 4: this is the problem when you restrict abortions. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: this is the benefit when you restrict abortion. I'm looking
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  Speaker 4: at it as a good thing that there's 87 people
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  Speaker 4: alive that would have been aborted. And they're looking at
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  Speaker 4: it as it's a problem. Perspective is everything. Do you
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  Speaker 4: celebrate life? I celebrate life. I think that all life
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  Speaker 4: has value. Even the lives of people that I think
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  Speaker 4: are probably monsters right now. They didn't start off as monsters.
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  Speaker 4: Something happened to them along the way. And we're all
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  Speaker 4: responsible for the decisions that we make and what leads
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: us down the paths that we end up on. But
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  Speaker 4: I think, you know, again, maybe it's just because I'm
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  Speaker 4: a Christian, but I just look at all life is
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  Speaker 4: created by God and it's all in his image. And
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  Speaker 4: then we end up where we end up based off
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  Speaker 4: of our free will. And I understand circumstances might, you know,
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  Speaker 4: obviously circumstances push you in certain directions, but you still
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  Speaker 4: ultimately can choose your own path. At least in America,
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  Speaker 4: we can choose our own paths, for the time being, until.
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  Speaker 3: The DSA takes over. But I celebrate that, Christopher, 10
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  Speaker 3: babies this year that would have been, I can't guarantee
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  Speaker 3: they would have been aborted, but in all likelihood would
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  Speaker 3: not have made it. They're alive today.
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  Speaker 5: And hopefully adopted into great families and go on to thrive.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely. And so, again, I think that's a win.
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  Speaker 4: If you think it's a loss, I guess we could
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: debate that if you're up for that. Or if you
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  Speaker 4: have thoughts on this story or anything else we're talking about,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: we're about to wrap up the show, but we might
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  Speaker 4: have time for one more talk back before we go.
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  Speaker 3: It is currently 846.
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  Speaker 1: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 3: Heading into a big football weekend. LSU, no penalties from
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  Speaker 3: the SEC. If I understand right, there might be a
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: lawsuit now from the two NFL dudes.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to be suing LSU because they're not on
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: the team now?
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  Speaker 5: They've Already hired attorneys.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: Goodness. Yeah. This, what a headache that has become.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, it has.
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  Speaker 4: Um, I'm now I'm basing this with all the accuracy
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: of my phone app. I don't know what that, how
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: accurate my phone is, but looking to tomorrow night, the
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: best chance of rain in Columbia with lightning possibilities, the
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: highest percentage would be at eight o'clock around a 40%.
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  Speaker 4: So we, according to my phone app, we don't crack 50%. Um,
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  Speaker 4: And again, we learned this a few years ago. When
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  Speaker 4: they say 40%, they don't mean it's a 40% chance
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  Speaker 4: of happening. What they mean is it's a 100% chance
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  Speaker 4: of happening and a 40% chance of it happening— or.
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  Speaker 3: 40% of the area. That's the way they— it' s a 100%
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: chance of lightning and rain tomorrow, but only in a
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: 40% area of the Midlands. So we'll see if we're
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: affected tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 4: You excited about the man, what the Gamecocks looked amazing
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: last week.
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  Speaker 5: I think some people though, Kelly still have, you know,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 5: PTSD from that South Carolina state game last year, which
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: turned into a monsoon with the winds blowing. You saw
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: tents flying everywhere. And then of course there was long
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: rain delay before Carolina even got started in that game.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, I'm, I'm, I'm wondering about the fan base as well,
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  Speaker 4: but again, just as a football program, they looked fantastic. Clemson,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: not so great last week. They got a big bounce-back opportunity.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: Georgia Southern, who was their cornerback or somebody was talking
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: smack this week.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he says he's seen some things on tape and
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 5: he can't wait to see Clemson.
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  Speaker 3: Now, did they kick off at the same time as us?
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  Speaker 5: You mean South Carolina and Clemson? I'm trying to remember.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 5: South Carolina kicks off at 7, and Clemson is a
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 5: night game.
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  Speaker 4: So for those of you locally who can listen to WVOC,
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  Speaker 4: and by the way, if you're in the Lowcountry and
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: you're a Gamecock fan, you can still listen to the
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: best Gamecock coverage on your iHeartRadio app by going to WVOC.
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  Speaker 4: And Christopher kicks that off always three hours before kickoff,
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  Speaker 4: so that'd be four o'clock tomorrow.
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  Speaker 5: And then you'll join us at five.
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  Speaker 2: Yup.
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  Speaker 4: And then Jonathan Rush and I will be there, I guess,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: near the six o'clock hour sometime. So it's an action-packed
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: three hours and you do an amazing job with all
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: the interviews that I saw you this week. You're hustling
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: around here, getting, you know, coaches and whatnot interviewed for
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: the games. So it's, I love listening to the best
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: Gamecock coverage and I learned some new stuff and John
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: Whittle's always a fantastic addition.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: He is.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: When he can't make it, you always have some other
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: guest hosts that do a fantastic job as well.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 5: Clemson kicks off, by the way, 30 minutes later at 7.30.
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  Speaker 4: And the point spreads are outrageous, right? Like, we're like
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: a 40-point favorite or something insane.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 5: I mean, look at all the points the SEC scored
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: last week. I mean, just about everyone, you know, put
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 5: up 50, 60-plus points. It was amazing.
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  Speaker 3: And it, but isn't like Clemson, like a 25 point
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: favorite tomorrow, something like that. I think, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Anytime you get past like two touchdowns, it's a little bit,
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  Speaker 4: that's always, I'm usually going to be like, uh, one
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: of our, uh, we have a sports talk station in
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: town here, 1400, uh, Fox sports and their host does
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: a thing. And so I put in my picks for
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: that show and I, I, I have to, I, I
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: have to go with Towson. I can't believe that we're
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: going to cover like a 48 point spread. So, Anyway,
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  Speaker 4: we'll find out how we all did Monday, but hopefully
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: it's a great weekend for everybody. Take some time, reflect,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: maybe teach some younger people about 9-11, and we'll reconvene
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  Speaker 4: 6 a.m.
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  Speaker 3: Monday with South Carolina's morning news.