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Can Forgotten 80s Rock Bands Tour Without Their Iconic Singers? · Classic Metal Show

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  SPEAKER_00: Hi, this is Arve from Audrey Horn and you're watching CMS TV.
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  SPEAKER_03: Do you have a related story to this or do you just have another story?
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  SPEAKER_01: I just have another story unless you've got something related.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, I have a related internet story.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, go ahead.
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  SPEAKER_03: About people putting their life out there on the internet.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: And this is a perfect segue into this.
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  SPEAKER_03: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_03: So we talk often about these quote unquote celebrity types
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  SPEAKER_03: that put their life out there on the line in the court of public opinion.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: In this case, I'm talking about Kelly Osbourne.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: She has put her life out online with her ending her relationship with Sid Wilson.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it's just like, keep it to yourself.
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  SPEAKER_03: Keep it between yourself.
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  SPEAKER_03: We don't need to know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the last thing we need to know is that Sid Wilson is not paying child support
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  SPEAKER_01: or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_01: I saw that too, and I think that wasn't that the gist of it?
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, Kelly Osbourne is not happy with Sid Wilson as they ended their engagement.
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  SPEAKER_03: She doesn't want the drama.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, you're stirring
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  SPEAKER_03: it up by putting it out there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're making it drama.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Nobody else was talking about it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: A source exclusively tells people that the former couple have split after going
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  SPEAKER_03: through a difficult period for months.
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  SPEAKER_03: Osborne, 41,
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  SPEAKER_03: and Wilson, 49,
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  SPEAKER_03: first began dating in January of 2022 and welcomed their son,
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  SPEAKER_03: Sidney, later that year.
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  SPEAKER_03: They got engaged three years later in July of 2025 in front of her dying dad, unfortunately.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
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  SPEAKER_03: So...
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, she meets this guy, bangs out a kid with him, then they get engaged.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's the way to go.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's the way it works.
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  SPEAKER_03: There is no secret that she's not happy with him.
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  Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: They've had a lot of back and forth.
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  SPEAKER_03: The source tells people they're not together right now.
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  SPEAKER_03: The insider adds that Osborne's priority is her mother and that she wants
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  SPEAKER_03: to stay close to Sharon Osborne is also very focused on being
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  SPEAKER_03: the best mom she can be to her three-and-a-half-year-old son.
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  SPEAKER_03: She just doesn't want the drama in her life right now, the source said.
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  SPEAKER_03: Sid has a lot he needs to work through on his own.
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  SPEAKER_03: People reached out to representatives for Osborne and Wilson for comment.
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  SPEAKER_03: The news of their split comes two days after Osborne,
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  SPEAKER_03: now here it is,
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  SPEAKER_03: posted several cryptic messages about parenting on her Instagram stories
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  SPEAKER_03: that appeared to be directed at Wilson.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I'm putting a public message out there just to take a swipe at, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: And because I'm famous, a lot more people will see it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes, of course.
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  SPEAKER_03: Strange how the loudest defense of the guilty is rarely innocence.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's distraction, she wrote.
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  SPEAKER_03: When the mask slips, they don't face the mirror.
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  SPEAKER_03: They throw it at someone else.
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  SPEAKER_01: Isn't she the philosopher?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the mask.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we get it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Slipped on, got it.
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  SPEAKER_01: When the mask slips.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wow, that's something.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Osborne then added,
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  SPEAKER_03: My son's little heart once beat right beside mine,
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  SPEAKER_03: so trust me when I say I will protect it at all costs because I'm a good mom.
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  SPEAKER_01: Did somebody say that wasn't true?
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  SPEAKER_01: Publicly?
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  SPEAKER_01: Publicly.
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  SPEAKER_03: Not that I'm aware of.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Sid might have probably in the midst of an argument said,
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  SPEAKER_01: you're a fucking bad mom and a skinny bitch.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean, he probably said some shit.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, when they're breaking up, you yell
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  SPEAKER_03: and scream at each other.
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  SPEAKER_03: Of course.
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  SPEAKER_03: My job is to protect my kids,
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  SPEAKER_03: not your feelings, not your expectations, not judgments I didn't ask for.
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  SPEAKER_03: Her Instagram story has continued.
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  SPEAKER_03: My responsibility is to protect their well-being, their nervous systems, their emotional safety.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Again, why is she posting this?
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  SPEAKER_01: Why is any of this out there?
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  SPEAKER_03: I will choose them every single time over anyone.
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  SPEAKER_03: That includes you, Sid.
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  SPEAKER_03: She didn't
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  SPEAKER_01: say that.
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  SPEAKER_03: She didn't say that, but that's what she's saying.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's what she's saying.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: Over everything, the posts continue.
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  SPEAKER_03: Osborne concluded her series of posts writing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Also, while I'm at it, and one more thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: And another thing, mister.
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  SPEAKER_03: Can I have my dogs back and all my possessions?
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And maybe some child support.
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  SPEAKER_01: First of all, I saw that part.
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  SPEAKER_01: The Osbournes have got to be worth a billion dollars.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Kelly Osbourne does not need child support.
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  SPEAKER_01: Quite honestly,
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  SPEAKER_01: Sid Wilson,
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure he has a good amount of money too because he's one of the OGs of Slipknot.
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  SPEAKER_01: But he don't have Osborne money.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not even close.
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  SPEAKER_01: That kid does not need Sid Wilson's money.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if she was really a good mother, again,
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  SPEAKER_01: I'll just say it,
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  SPEAKER_01: she was really a good mother,
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  SPEAKER_01: she'd say, Keep your child support, but sign off that you don't get any custody.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well,
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  SPEAKER_03: this is less about child support and more of trying to paint him as some kind of
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  SPEAKER_03: a piece of shit.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and trying to fuck him on the back end of it, knowing that he doesn't have a job anymore.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but the thing is,
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  SPEAKER_03: it's less about the actual child support and more about, and he's a deadbeat.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's basically the thing she's trying to say.
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  SPEAKER_03: Not only did he steal my possessions and my dogs, but he's a deadbeat dad too.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Were they only your dogs or were they shared purchase?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because my hunch is they were probably a shared purchase.
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  SPEAKER_01: Otherwise, why would he have them?
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  SPEAKER_01: Why would he take them?
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  SPEAKER_01: But if she wants them, she's supposed to get them.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's fucking nonsense.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I don't know Sid Wilson from anything.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm not even trying to defend him at all.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm just like, the child support thing really rubbed me the wrong way.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because a billionaire family asking for child support is really, really weak.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, that's just bullshit.
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  SPEAKER_03: But again, it's just to muddy it up, you know, to make the, you know, I'm the saint here.
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  SPEAKER_03: I protect my child.
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  SPEAKER_03: I got, I'm concerned about the well-being of my mother.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm the responsible one and you're a piece of garbage.
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  SPEAKER_03: And just to prove it.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm going to even throw that little tidbit in there.
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  SPEAKER_03: How about some child support, you deadbeat?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: You don't care about your
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  SPEAKER_01: kid.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm going to put it online so all of your fans see it too.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: But see, this is what I'm talking about here.
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  SPEAKER_03: Court of public opinion.
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  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
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  SPEAKER_03: The Monday,
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  SPEAKER_03: August 3rd Instagram stories followed the speculation in March that Osborne
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  SPEAKER_03: and Wilson had called off their engagement.
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  SPEAKER_03: At the time,
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  SPEAKER_03: a source told people that the couple was navigating a tough time
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  SPEAKER_03: in their relationship.
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  SPEAKER_03: She's been in a challenging headspace for several reasons.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's been very emotional for her.
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  SPEAKER_03: She's had a lot going on.
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  SPEAKER_03: Has she?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_03: Osborne's death still affects her deeply.
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  SPEAKER_03: She's very focused on being there for her mom now.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're incredibly close, and that's been her priority.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's been hard for Kelly and Sid to balance everything,
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  SPEAKER_03: especially with different priorities about where to spend their time.
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  SPEAKER_03: The source said this has put a strain on their relationship.
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  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is going to sound extremely heartless, but I'm just going to ask it anyway.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's been over a year.
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  SPEAKER_01: Can we stop with the, I can barely function without dad here anymore?
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  SPEAKER_01: Can we stop with that?
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  SPEAKER_01: I get that he's Ozzy.
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  SPEAKER_01: I get that he's your dad.
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  SPEAKER_01: My father has passed away as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: Your mother has passed away.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're sad when you think about it, obviously.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're not happy.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're not like, yeah, cool, dad's dead.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're not like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: But do you really need to keep bringing it up over and over instead of trying to move forward?
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• 10:34
  SPEAKER_01: Am I crazy on this?
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: No, not at all.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's been 55 weeks or whatever since Ozzy died.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a lot of weeks.
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  SPEAKER_01: A lot of shit should have happened in that year.
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  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, you're going to be sad, but how do you get past it?
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  SPEAKER_01: You stop talking about it.
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  SPEAKER_01: You stop bringing it up every fucking minute.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I got to protect my mom.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's so devastated from dad dying.
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  SPEAKER_01: Come on.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's got to get over it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I know that sounds heartless, but she's got to get over it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's a Sharon thing, not even a Kelly thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know,
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  SPEAKER_01: because the way this is all worded is like,
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  SPEAKER_01: Sharon is so distraught that Kelly's got to be there for her.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's been over a year.
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  SPEAKER_01: People died.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's part of it.
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  SPEAKER_01: He wasn't killed in a car accident or a murder, for God's sakes.
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  SPEAKER_01: He died of old age.
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  SPEAKER_01: Or he died of whatever, disease.
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  SPEAKER_01: But he was old.
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  SPEAKER_01: He got it all in.
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  SPEAKER_01: He went out with 100,000 people cheering for him.
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  SPEAKER_01: He went out exactly the way he wanted to go out.
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  SPEAKER_01: So what are you still devastated about?
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  SPEAKER_01: Be happy that he got to choose his way to go and he took it.
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  SPEAKER_01: To me, that would be the best.
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  SPEAKER_01: Honestly, is there a better way to go out of your life than what Ozzy did?
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  SPEAKER_03: No.
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  SPEAKER_03: He lived two weeks beyond the point where,
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  SPEAKER_03: like you said,
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  SPEAKER_03: a stadium full of people and people around the world were able
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  SPEAKER_03: to see him one final time before he sailed off into the sunset.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he got to see them one final time,
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  SPEAKER_01: which he made very clear if you watched any of the documentaries and stuff
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  SPEAKER_01: that were made about it.
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  SPEAKER_01: That was why he was doing it.
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  SPEAKER_01: He wanted to say goodbye in his way.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he did.
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  SPEAKER_01: And again, I'm not trying to judge anybody's sorrow.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm sure that losing their dad, I lost my dad.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I know what that feels like.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's horrible.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's absolutely horrible.
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  SPEAKER_01: But there has to be a point where you stop trying to get the world to feel sorry
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  SPEAKER_01: for you and you move forward.
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  SPEAKER_01: You go on to the next thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: You don't spend the year when you're supposed to be healing figuring out how to make
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  SPEAKER_01: an AI zombie convention where you can ask fake Aussie questions so
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  SPEAKER_01: that you don't continue to wallow in his death.
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  SPEAKER_01: You don't reconstruct the OzFest with no Ozzy.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's fucking ridiculous.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, you move forward.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sharon Osbourne, if she really wants to move forward, should find a new artist to work on.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_01: Youngblood.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_01: Weren't they big on him?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's why he was at the Performed at
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  SPEAKER_01: the Show.
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  SPEAKER_01: So help him out.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's floundered a little bit.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's gotten bigger, but he's...
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  SPEAKER_01: You know,
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  SPEAKER_01: he's already had mental breakdowns and everything else and canceled tours and shit
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  SPEAKER_01: over it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Help that guy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Instead of wallowing in your own self-pity, move forward with what you do best.
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  SPEAKER_01: And remember Ozzy for the great person that he was to you and to the great way
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  SPEAKER_01: that he went out of this world on his own terms.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's what I think anyway.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, scrolling down to some of the comments,
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  SPEAKER_03: they're right in line with what we're saying here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: She doesn't want drama.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's funny.
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  SPEAKER_03: I know someone who worked on the Osborne show and said she was
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  SPEAKER_03: the worst drama queen he ever worked with.
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  SPEAKER_01: Kelly?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't want drama.
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  SPEAKER_03: Keep family matters private and communicate face to face.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_03: I don't want drama, proceeds to make everything public, classic celebrity mentality.
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  SPEAKER_03: She's ruined her face with Ozempic.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's a whole other thing with her.
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  SPEAKER_01: She needs to stop wallowing about Ozzie dying and start worrying about herself dying.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: She looks very, very sick.
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  SPEAKER_03: Raised by an attention hound and becomes an attention hound.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's not wrong.
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  SPEAKER_03: Definitely not wrong.
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  SPEAKER_03: She posts on social media also while I'm at it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Can I have my dogs back and all my possessions?
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And maybe some child support.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that screams volumes about her not wanting the drama.
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  SPEAKER_03: The girl doesn't know life without it.
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  SPEAKER_03: And she's at the very center of it.
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  SPEAKER_03: So people have zero sympathy for her at all.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: Well, they shouldn't have any sympathy for her.
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  SPEAKER_03: No, well, I know that, but that's what this whole thing was about.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, I posted this on social media.
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  SPEAKER_03: And again, the whole point of bringing this story was, again, with the court of public opinion.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And sounds like she's not getting the opinion she wanted, probably.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, good on social media people.
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  SPEAKER_03: Private matters private.
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  SPEAKER_03: We don't need to know.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: What we need to know about Kelly Osbourne is, is she releasing a song?
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  SPEAKER_01: Is she doing a show?
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  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Does she do anything else?
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't even know what she does.
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  SPEAKER_01: She probably doesn't do anything.
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  SPEAKER_01: Again, her family's worth a billion dollars.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's probably not doing shit.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's probably a whole nother.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you think that's an issue with the Osbournes?
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  SPEAKER_01: They wallow in this shit because they're bored?
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  SPEAKER_01: Probably.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because Ozzy was the workhorse.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he was the focus.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he was the mule.
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  SPEAKER_01: He was the mule that made the money.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and they were his support team.
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  SPEAKER_03: Sharon obviously was the one who booked his...
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  SPEAKER_03: Interviews and his tours and his,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know, whatever it is, whatever public thing that he had to attend.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then his daughter,
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sure she worked behind the scenes doing something in the Osborne business.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and Jack did stuff like he did this video or some shit.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but once Ozzy was gone, it's just like, well, our family business is no longer.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_03: Now we don't know what to do with ourselves.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: But wouldn't you spend, I even get like six months, and again, I want to be very clear on this.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not trying to say they shouldn't still be sad.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: I'm really not trying to say that.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: Of course you're sad when your father,
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: who was world-renowned and worldly loved,
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: you know, I mean, there's a lot of people that don't like Ozzy, but let's be honest.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: Pretty much everybody from The worlds of rock and roll and heavy metal
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: and television and everything else loved Ozzy.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: So I get that it'd be harder, I guess, that, you know, somebody that's that renowned.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_01: But wouldn't you,
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: I'm saying this to you,
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_01: if you were Kelly Osbourne or Jack Osbourne or whatever,
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_01: wouldn't you deal with it the way you got to deal with it for six or seven months
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: and then start trying to plot out whatever the next thing is?
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, you got to continue to live.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_03: You can't just not do anything and quit existing.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you can't focus your life on your dead dad.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_01: You just can't.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: You got to move forward.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: What a mess.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_03: Well, since I interrupted your flow over there, what's the next thing?
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_03: You know what?
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: You took me to a topic that can flow right off of that one.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_03: I'm glad we had that planning meeting before the show.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_03: Otherwise, it wouldn't have come off as it is.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_03: It wouldn't have worked as well.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_03: It's so seamless.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: It would not have worked as well as this is going to work.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: So as we speak of moving on and doing new opportunities and whatnot,
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_01: This I saw a couple weeks ago.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: So these dates on this thing I'm going to show you have already passed.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm just like, hmm.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: So you're aware of the band Junkyard, obviously.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, of course.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_01: And you're certainly aware that the singer David Roach passed away.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he passed away from cancer a few weeks back or a couple months ago.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Junkyard without David Roach.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_01: Is back on the road.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_01: And
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_01: they're not really saying it's like a tribute or I'm assuming maybe, but I don't know.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_01: Are they just carrying on without the guy that was the guy?
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, honestly, with Junkyard, wasn't David Roach the guy?
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah, I mean, it always boils down to the front man, doesn't it?
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_03: They didn't have any quote-unquote prominent guitar heroes in that band.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, no, no.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I wouldn't even know who were in the band or if any of
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_03: the original guys are still part of Junkyard.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I have no idea.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it could be a Steelheart situation.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think any of the original guys are still in Steelheart.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: Just the one.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_03: The singer.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_03: I relate Steelheart and Junkyard in a very similar situation.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I just found this to be odd.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, this is literally the announcement.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's been seven years is a long time.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_01: It's been a tough road since our last trip to the East Coast.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: And this time, Tim, Todd, Jimmy, and Pat will be making the journey one man down.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: Roach may be gone, but he'll never be forgotten.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: East Coast friends and family, who are we going to see?
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, tell me something.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: How about telling me who's going to sing?
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: Could you give me that much information if you want me to come to a show?
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: Who's going to do it?
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: Did you get a new singer?
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: Is the guitar player going to sing now?
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_01: You know, something.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_01: But again, it's that whole hanging on.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I love Junkyard,
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: so I know this sounds callous because it sounds like I don't like this band.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: I love Junkyard.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_01: Should they carry, should they just disband it and go their separate ways?
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_03: So who's Tim Mosier?
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_01: No idea.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_01: Probably an original guy, I guess.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_03: Tim Mosier and his junkyard friends.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean, they're not really calling it junkyard now, are they?
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_03: It's sort of like a, it seems like, you know, it's like they're playing some junkyard tunes.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't appear as if they're playing under the Junkyard banner.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: Tim Mosier is the guitar player.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: He's been there since 2000.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_03: So he's not an original.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_03: That's my point.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_03: I have no idea if there's even anyone in the band from their heyday
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_03: when they first charted way back in the late 80s.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it says the current lineup is...
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: Pat Mozingo, Todd Muscat, Tim Mosher, and Jimmy James.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: Pat Mozingo was in the band from 1987, and looking at it, that seems to be the original.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_01: Because that's when David Roach and all those guys joined the band.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: So I'd imagine he's an original band.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: Todd Muscat joined in 1991.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: Tim Mosher joined in 2000.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: And Jimmy James joined in 2017.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: So are they just going out and playing Junkyard songs?
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_01: But I mean,
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_01: the way it's phrased,
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: though, is like, it's been a while since we've been out, and we're one man down.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_01: And the one man is David Roach.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_01: And if that one man is David Roach,
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_01: did they tour last time as Todd Mosher and friends for an evening of Junkyard
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: or did they tour as Junkyard?
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: They toured as Junkyard.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_01: I remember it because they were supposed to play here and then they didn't.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_01: I was going to go.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_01: And again, I don't even want to slam on these guys.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: I just don't get why they're doing it.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I think it's a similar situation as our friend Robbie Lochner
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_03: and those guys doing Jack Russell's Great White.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_03: Similar situation.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_03: You know,
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_03: Jack's not with us anymore,
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_03: but we're out there playing those Great White songs and,
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_03: you know, what did they call their lineup?
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: Was it Once Bitten?
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think so.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_03: That's it.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe this should be called sixes, sevens, and nines or something.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_01: Or hands off.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_03: Well, again, it doesn't say, it just says, and his junkyard friends.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't know.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_03: And they may not have the right to use the junkyard thing either.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it could be because, I mean, they're clearly advertising it as the last guy's.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: That toured with Junkyard.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_01: They're clearly saying that.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe that is why they're not called.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_01: But still, it just, I don't know.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_01: And again,
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_01: this is probably just the jaded me,
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: and you're probably right about this, that I'm just jaded on everything.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_01: But was Junkyard a big enough band
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_03: to continue in any
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: capacity?
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_03: Not really.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_01: That would be like if Vane went out there without Davey Vane.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_03: Why?
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know, just why?
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_03: You know,
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_03: because maybe the guys in the band just like playing together
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_03: and they can still pick up a couple of bucks.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: Are we down to that?
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_03: This scene is just a mess, isn't it?
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_03: As long as there's an audience and there's a promoter willing to pay.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it happened this weekend.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe we'll get more Tim Mosier and friends doing a Night of Junkyard songs or something.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't even say on the wiki page who's singing.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't even list a singer.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: Are they playing these all instrumental?
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the whole thing is kind of like, well, tell us what it is.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: Is it junkyard?
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: Is it not?
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_01: Is it, you know, they're not telling us a whole lot.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_03: Well, maybe it's like a box of chocolates.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_03: You just don't know what you're going to get.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: What do I got here?
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_01: Would you like to hear...
• 27:09
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• 27:13
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, boy.
• 27:14
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• 27:18
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• 27:18
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