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LIVE: California Wildfires—APOCALYPTIC Warning or Globalist Land Grab? · Man in America Podcast

• 1:21
  Speaker 1: Had to open up a cold soda. I didn't want my crack open while I was on camera.
• 2:48
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. And, boy, do we have a great show planned tonight. So, obviously, if you have or if you're not living under a rock, you've seen that California is on fire. Hollywood, Palisades, some pretty key areas, and I've got a lot of questions.
• 3:09
  I've got questions about is it how does the geoengineering tie into this? What's up with all the tunnels between the Getty Museum and the Playboy Mansion, and does this relate to human trafficking stuff before Trump gets in? Is it a land grab like what we saw in Maui? There are so many questions that I have. And, Ty, I actually have two fantastic women as guests on the shows today.
• 3:29
  On the show today, Tracy Durwin and Stephanie Perucci, two women that were pivotal in exposing the corruption with the Maui fires, with what happened there, you know, digging into the smart city plan, so many of these these much larger globalist agendas and seeing how that tied into just the raping, the pillaging, and the murdering of innocent people to seize their assets, which unfortunately is the theme of life these days is it's it's the p it's the the battle of we versus them, and we, the people across the world versus a small group of people that are you know, who knows what they're doing? You know, worshiping Satan and, you know you know, only God knows what literally. So it's gonna be a really good show. And, again, I I've got so many questions that I can't answer, and I've tried to answer. I've got a lot of research behind, you know, what I've kinda come to and arrived at my perspective.
• 4:21
  But between the three of us, think that we're gonna have a very, very good conversation. Before we dive in that, a few quick messages. First off, if you're watching on Rumble, thank you for supporting a free speech platform. If you're on YouTube, you should be on Rumble where I can talk about things more than what you're gonna see on tonight's show. The other thing is make sure that you if you're on Rumble, you hit that green follow button, or the like, whatever platform you're on, make sure you hit that like or thumbs up just to help this content reach more people.
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• 6:11
  Let's go ahead and bring on our guests tonight and just dive into this discussion. So I've got now here Stephanie and Tracy. So, ladies, thank you so much for joining me on such short notice today for tonight's show. It's great to have you both here.
• 6:25
  Speaker 3: Thanks for having us, Seth.
• 6:28
  Seth Holehouse: So I I guess, Tracy, you're the first person to speak, so I'll start with you. Give give the audience just a quick background of yourself and and specifically, you know, how you got pulled into the whole Maui fire thing and why I now view you as experts on globalist weather controlled fires for land grabs. Like, that's kind of your title I could put on your on your name card. So, Tracy, we'll start with you.
• 6:55
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much, and and thank you, Seth, for shedding light on this very important topic. And it just I'm always taken aback when I hear someone say I'm an expert in this because it just happened by accident. I was a beauty content creator on YouTube. I talked about makeup and makeup brushes mainly. And the wake up call, the moment where that changed my life changed dramatically was August eighth of twenty twenty three when the town of Lahaina burned down.
• 7:24
  I'm from Oahu, so that is where I was born and raised. So that really hit home. I mean, I just I I remember my mom telling me, oh, Lahaina burned. Everyone knows Lahaina. It's the ancient capital.
• 7:41
  When I heard the entire town burned, I just knew there was something not right. And as the news rolled out, everything just didn't add up. Yes, there's severe incompetence, but there was something else nefarious going. I knew it right away. And I was just in the beginning stages of my awakening to the truth and what was going on.
• 8:04
  I had like my spiritual awakening about a year previous to that. So I feel like my eyes were open and ready to see the truth. And I just kept digging in there and I did a video on the fires and I did another one a few days later and those videos went viral a day or so after and I was getting like 200, three hundred, four hundred thousand views whereas I usually get maybe a thousand on a good day. From there, I just got this overwhelming amount of support saying, We believe you. We want you to continue.
• 8:39
  And I thought I was going to be called crazy and I was going to back to my beauty content. But I never did a beauty video since then. And since then, I've just been immersed in understanding. I just had to know what happened. Like, how did this happen?
• 8:55
  I just could not believe it. When you're from an area and you see people that remind you of your family and your friends, you know, suffering, losing their lives, losing their homes, running from the fire, it just really got to me. And from then, I just kept following other tragedies and I found out they have so much in common and just digging into the political and historical aspect. And then about a year ago, I brought Shane on, and he has more of the physics technical background that allowed me to bring that aspect because I wasn't getting that part, you know, the DEW thing and the weather modification aspect. He was already studying that from, you know, from the nineties, I believe.
• 9:46
  So, you know, combining those, I guess, specialties, we were able to unravel and uncover a lot, I've been reporting on that ever since. And now, you know, I live in Los Angeles, so this is very close to home, what's going on now. I mean, when I go outside, ashes follow me, my eyes start burning. I'm not in an area that's going to burn, so you don't have to worry about that, but it's just unbelievable. This one is different because there are so many.
• 10:18
  Mean, yes, Southern California is no stranger to fires, but they're popping up so just like in a matter of hours, you'll see another one. And it's just I'm starting to get that feeling again of like I have to really know what's going on. Every tragedy is a little different and this one is definitely something that I'm still trying to figure out, but there is certainly enough evidence for me to say that this has been planned. There is advanced technology, and there is certainly geoengineering stratospheric aerosol injection involved. So yeah, that is very recent, but I'm confident to say that we have evidence that those things are going on right now.
• 11:05
  Seth Holehouse: And I look forward to digging into that. Stephanie, go ahead and give us your you've been a guest on the show before. I you know, I think we were talking about, was it the Maui fires that we were covering? I I I think because, obviously, it was after that.
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: It wasn't Yeah. We were talking about Lahaina, and it was right when Asheville got attacked.
• 11:23
  Seth Holehouse: Yes. That's that's true. Okay.
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so we were going through the sound the alarm playbook and saying, oh, well, here are some of the, you know, here were some of the anomalies and red flags we saw in Asheville that made us think long before we had some of the satellite images and some of the evidence we have now, we thought something fishy is going on here. Well, why did the storm change directions and stuff like that? And so the reason I started writing books about weather engineering and the globalist land grabs is because with Tracy and several other people who were independently investigating Lahaina, we started to see way too many of the same things going on. And originally, I was interested in Lahaina because I had actually lived in Hawaii for a little while, and so I felt it was very special, but I had someone who was stuck on Front Street who was very dear to me, and she explained that human rotisserie with the police blockades, and I said, that's sick, How did that happen? Where are the dispatch reports?
• 12:39
  Who ordered that? And so I just had questions about my friend, sort of like Tracy. That's where we began over the last, I guess, seventeen months or so putting pieces together to reveal to us this is happening all over the world, and some of the things going on in Asheville and Palisade and Lahaina and other places around the world, it's the same playbook.
• 13:07
  Seth Holehouse: It is. And that's that's the thing too that I've come to in researching is that you look for patterns. Right? You you see one thing. It's like, Maybe it's a one off.
• 13:15
  But when you see that same pattern repeated, it's like, I'm seeing something here. And this is what I'm looking forward to getting in this discussion with both of you because when I'm looking at this situation, comparing it to Maui as an example okay. Maui was set to be kind of yeah. As I think as Stephanie, you described it as, like, the Las Vegas Strip of of Hawaii. They wanna turn into this big commercial property, you know, casinos and and resorts and everything.
• 13:39
  But you also saw that, you know, the the the the kind of the mega elites, like the Zuckerbergs, the Oprahs, you know, those kinds of characters that that they were untouched. It seemed like it was really about this land grab from the commoners. Right? That, you know, similar to, you know, slaughtering the Native Americans to seize this particular piece of land. Right?
• 13:59
  But when I look at what's happening in California, like, it's the Getty Museum. Right? It's Right. You know, like, I was looking before at the different actors and actresses and and, you know, are losing, you know, properties. Like, think Jeff Bridges was one of the ones, Ricky Lake
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: Woods.
• 14:19
  Seth Holehouse: James Woods, and a lot of, like, you know, very, very wealthy prominent Paris Hilton, and they lost a massive, you know, beachfront mansion. And so these are people that aren't the commoners that refuse to sell their land because it's ancestral. You know, they they they hold on to it. And so that's why it was a little bit more difficult for me to look at this and think, okay. Well, we saw you see these indicators of of the the setup.
• 14:45
  Right? Obviously, they're they're not doing what they should be doing to control the burns. You know, they're not doing the maintain the forest floor, having the fire buffer zones, or the things they do to maintain the forest. There's obviously all the major issues with water and the fact that, you know, the whether it's Newsome or the the mayor of LA that there's been no water available. So you can see then the of course, the insurance.
• 15:05
  Oh, okay. Magically, lot of the insurance companies, think State Farm's one of them, they've canceled the fire insurance kind of very closely to this happening. So you can see a lot of those things that make you think, oh, this is some sort of much more, you know, kind of bigger picture. This is planned. But then you look at the fact that, you know, these are the perceived elites, but maybe it's actually not so.
• 15:27
  Maybe that these are just the people that get a mansion, but they're still just as controlled and enslaved as we are, maybe even more so. And so, I guess, how how do the two of you make sense of this? And just jump in and just, you know, in terms of our conversation tone, interrupt me. I'll interrupt you. Like, let's just make this a really engaging back and forth conversation.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Okay. Well, I can give you a little background on the Palisades. I've spent a decent amount of time there. It's also this has gone back to Malibu. I actually know someone who saved their house a month ago and lost their house today, which I mean Malibu's been hit.
• 16:03
  I don't understand exactly the different areas right now, but it really shocked me when I heard that the Palisades and these multimillion dollar mansions and these prominent people are losing their properties. One good thing I just want to sneak in is that in a way that is good because I feel like these people are going to stand up for their rights. They're not going to just give their properties over. They're going to get what they deserve and they're going to ask for answers. They already are.
• 16:36
  Know, the mayor has been asked, why did you cut the fire funding? Why did you send the equipment that we need to the Ukraine when we need it here because now there's a shortage of firefighters and equipment. And so I don't know exactly. It's a really bold move to burn down these houses that are so valuable. Some people do have their insurance, but the people that lost their insurance were often forced to go on a state funded insurance plan, which I heard is extremely expensive, but they didn't have a choice.
• 17:11
  I don't know how that is going to plan out because Yeah,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: and the same with the electric too.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's up to the state whether they want to pay and how much they're going to pay. I do think a lot of people, the ones that are older, are going to sell their properties because it's simply too much to rebuild at this point and whoever buys those properties is going to save a ton of money. So in that sense, it makes sense. A property that's $5,000,000 they can probably get it for one. And I do think there is something about this exclusive area.
• 17:45
  When I go there, I kind of feel like an outsider. It's very nice. It's very secure. It's perfectly manicured. Everyone has a housekeeper, gardener, and assistant.
• 17:56
  So maybe there was something about that that people didn't like. I don't know, but time will tell. Also, the mayor was in Africa during this time and she came back, I think, yesterday, similar to how Governor Green and the fire chief were out of town in Lahaina. I feel like that is part of it, but I don't understand fully because Sylmar is more of a working class area and that's being burned right now, and then Altadena is a more middle class area. Pasadena is a little bit nicer if you go more south, so it's almost like it's anyone, you know, in a lower class area, a middle class, or a very exclusive area.
• 18:39
  I don't feel like they're really discerning between who gets burned out. Can't make sense of it.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Well, you can't make sense of it, but it completely coincides with our previous theories that this doesn't have to do with Hawaiians. It doesn't have to do with Californians. This is a globalist. This is an international sort of coup or or or a bunch of gangsters that are working in a much, much higher level than local government. I'm elated to see that it doesn't just, similar to Lahaina and Asheville, hit working class people, because that makes it hurt worse, honestly.
• 19:22
  But I'm also happy to see that people who aren't digging into the bigger themes are saying, well, wait a minute, 300 firefighters were laid off because they didn't take the jabs, or they were doing DEI hiring at the fire department and based on sexual orientation, which has nothing to do with firefighting. Or there were all these environmental pieces of legislation that were pushed through such as the smelt fish protection that thwarted waterways, which is the same thing as what happened in Lahaina. We don't have water to fight these fires. And so on some level, I think the surface complaints or the surface observations people have, we can leverage to help them get to the next level of awakening and understanding of what's really happening here. And so we can talk a little bit more about some of the theories that we worked on through sound the alarm and that now seem to be playing out with, you know, smart city developments, etcetera.
• 20:32
  Seth Holehouse: Well, because I know that LA is supposed to is kinda slated to be a smart city. I think it's by 2028. I think I'd seen that that it was And and so that's obviously one of the big keys right there. But so I wanna
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: In the Olympics in 2028 too.
• 20:46
  Seth Holehouse: Which is also strange. Right? And and it's it's like now for I think for a lot of people, maybe they look at this and think, oh, it's just these are just fires. It's California. California always has fires.
• 20:55
  But what you realize, you look back and it's like, okay. Why are there melted engine blocks? And I've never seen melted, you know, tire rims and all the, you know, the strange anomalies. You know, loss of actually that, you know, Stephanie, we looked at in our video together about Lahaina and seeing why are there animals, like, frozen in time, like, almost like Pompeii. Right?
• 21:12
  It's like the the it's like, what really happened there? Or a clon fronds. Yes. Yes.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: That normally burn up easily. Yeah.
• 21:20
  Seth Holehouse: Yes. And so one and one question I have, this is more of a philosophical question, I guess, is that do you do either of you feel like with this, especially when you look at the idea of Hollywood burning? Right? I would say that Hollywood is one of Satan's key strongholds in in this agenda to destroy humanity, and and destroy us through the cultural subversion and through the just the the the dark messaging and bringing these evil ideas in. So do either of you have the have the perspective that maybe this is somewhat of, a Sodom and Gomorrah type situation even if it was caused by, say, these elite globalists?
• 21:58
  Like, in my opinion, they're still under God's plan. Right? They're they're not above God. You know you know, George Soros isn't writing some script for Earth that God hasn't approved. Right?
• 22:08
  So do you do you either of you get that sense that this maybe this is a warning to to Hollywood to, just the people that are using, this this mechanism to destroy humanity?
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: I it's hard to say because until I spoke to you, I saw it as more of the inside, the people that are in control here as trying to take more control, not so much an outsized outside force trying to destroy Hollywood. But I do know a lot of people in Hollywood that are completely oblivious to the the worship. I'm I did work at a studio for a little bit. Yes. There is a lot of that very evil, you know, pushing of agenda.
• 22:53
  I think a lot of people just don't know. You know? They might never really know, but some are definitely involved in that and very instrumental. I watched your video on hip hop and the cabal, and that really opened my eyes and it made a lot of sense. Explained, that meeting was a very small group of people that really knew what was going to happen.
• 23:17
  Everyone beneath them was probably oblivious to the bigger picture and whether they're very close to the top, there's just a very select few that were actually pulling the strings. So it's really hard to say. The Palisades isn't the only area where there are a lot of entertainment types. There's tons of different areas. They're kind of they're on Manhattan Beach, all sorts of parts of the state, but it could be part of it, but I don't think that's the main reason.
• 23:52
  I think it's more about the land grab, the control, the fear that people are now in, and I think they might use this kind of in the way that would happen in 2020. Like I got an alarm saying the fire's coming like in West Hills. I'm like, West Hills is not around here. The whole county got that. And then they say, oops, we didn't mean to send it to you.
• 24:15
  I don't know. It's like it's it's like they're trying to scare us into something to do something. I don't know. Only time will tell. But I do feel like there's this energy in the air where people are just on edge.
• 24:27
  They closed schools. When I drive, people are just honking and just there's this really negative vibe in the air right now, And I almost feel like they could even layer on another level of chaos, like the social unrest. I don't know. I hope
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: not. On January 20, maybe?
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, it is the timing of this is very unusual because January is not fire season. Don't listen to Newsom, he says it is, but it's not. It's not normally when we have these kind of fires. It's not when we have Santa Ana winds that normally in October, November. So they're saying it's the Santa Ana winds in January.
• 25:08
  I felt that wind was very unnatural. So, yeah, I think the timing there is another aspect that I'm not that might be part of it, but I know Trump has said that sanctuary cities and sanctuary states are going to start losing federal funding, and I did notice Gavin Newsom declared a state of emergency very early, I think, once the second fire started, So that releases federal funding. Maybe he's trying to get that while he can. I'm not sure. And, you know, California, this last election, really swung red.
• 25:47
  It's almost a fiftyfifty state, which I don't think people realize, but we're kind of like secretive about it because it's not socially acceptable to voice your more conservative views. But this is a really layered problem, and I don't feel like it's over. And I've been hearing a lot of people saying just like, watch out what's going on. We don't know exactly what it is, but I do kind of feel something is brewing that might be layered on top of this. Yeah,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and California doesn't have the history that the Hawaiians have of over one hundred years of getting their land seized and their rights, you know, trampled. And so I feel also sort of this tension, like something's going to explode. There's actually a pretty naive or optimistic part of me that thinks this is going to facilitate an incredible awakening like the last straw. People will see all of the incompetence in the local and state government. And now they don't have insurance, and a lot of people in Lahaina did have insurance.
• 27:05
  A lot of people in California lost their insurance. They're going to be revolting, and they do not have the ohana or the community or the support of their neighbors like the people in Lahaina had. I think they're going to, once they realize they're not going to get money from FEMA because it was sent to the Ukraine, I think we're going to see some more American cowboy response. We're going to see a lot of people who've been maybe not as bold about their beliefs, maybe not even as diligent about learning about the world around them. Now start to figure stuff out and connect some dots and awaken.
• 27:43
  In terms of is this God's wrath or Sodom and Gomorrah, I also, Seth, have heard people ask that question. I tend not to see God as extremely, think he's extremely pissed about a lot of things. I think it breaks his heart, but I also think that just in the same way, he allows us to go through absolutely horrific pain. And then we come out on the other side and we say, I learned a lot of lessons through that. I am more awakened and more purposeful and I sleep better and I'm more conscious.
• 28:21
  I think sometimes he has to let us self destruct in certain ways. And right now what we are seeing in California, what we saw in Asheville and Lahaina, of course, among many other events. This is in some ways, this is part of the necessary refining of an entire society that has gotten very lazy. And it's a very self indulgent society. I don't think that means that God is going to take some lightning and start poking us, but I do think that when I'm reading my Bible, I'm continually reminded to repent.
• 29:03
  But God is not grabbing the back of my neck and throwing me on the floor and telling me to repent. I think this is an awakening like that. I think this is an awakening for our country to repent because things have gotten out of control. The king, the ruler, whoever's, you know, commissioning the Tower Of Babel so to speak, out of control. You know, we have way too much power concentrated among too few people.
• 29:28
  And now we have to, you know, take up arms, bad analogy maybe, but we do. We need to now get very serious about taking back power, not allowing it to be concentrated in the hands of people who are incinerating cities.
• 29:45
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Good point. Or maybe say, take up pick up our swords. Right? And there's a a more Better.
• 29:51
  Right? So I can you're gonna have the FBI knocking on your door for that one.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. No. Better.
• 29:56
  Seth Holehouse: And so, Tracy, you mentioned a few things about the weather. You mentioned the the the the wind, and I know that also that, you know, both of you and I know Shane was very you know? And, actually, Shane was busy. He wasn't able to actually, It was more so that his Internet. I think he was in a region that got affected by the hurricane, and so his he had to go to the public library to access the Internet, so he couldn't be doing this interview at this time in a public library.
• 30:17
  But I know that, both of you have a solid understanding of geoengineering, especially after, you know, the research you did around Maui. So, Tracy, you consider you're living in this area. For someone who's a skeptic, like, I don't know about this geoengineering thing. You really the government can control the weather. Right?
• 30:36
  How would you describe? Like, what did you see and experience? Like, what are the indicators that you saw that there was some sort of, you know, kind of much bigger engineering to, like, the situation that's happened?
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Right. Well, the moment I knew that something was gonna happen is when all the mainstream networks started to say that these winds were coming and there's going to be a red flag warning. They give a map. They tell you exactly what areas are going to be affected. They actually told us everything that was going to happen and who was going to be at risk.
• 31:07
  I wonder why because the people that make these changes are the same people that are delivering the message. The meteorologists are actually under a gag order to follow these instructions. They can't go on their own and say what they really think. So their pensions and their paychecks are based on their compliance, but the night before the fires broke out, so this broke out, I think 10:23 in the morning is when the Palisades fire was first reported. The winds were really weird.
• 31:39
  The night actually, no. The night after it started, I mean, California does get winds, but this was really, really intense winds. I mean, my yard was full of stuff that almost never happened. All the pots were knocked over. The pool had tree branches and a fence fell over.
• 31:58
  It that is that has never happened, to me, and I've been here since '97. So that was really when I knew something was going to happen. I didn't realize it was going to be so bad and it was going to intensify so fast, but now the Palisades are over 20,000 acres burned. I didn't even know the Palisades was that big. So we're talking like the almost the entire area and that's just unbelievable.
• 32:28
  But there is so much research, there is so much proof, are papers, are experiments, all documented, patented with the government that proves that the government can control the weather. They can cloud seed. They can create low and high pressure systems which create the wind. You can look up in the sky almost any day in LA and see the spraying of the stratospheric aerosol injections heavily sprayed, I mean two, three planes at a time just going back and forth, especially over the Santa Monica Bay. I have a friend that actually lives in the Palisades.
• 33:07
  Her house is okay miraculously, but she's always showing how much is in the sky. Our skies haven't been clear much at all. It's always like this white haze. I didn't realize that was artificial, but it is. There is I really hope this is a wake up call to people to you know do your own research.
• 33:32
  Know our book has all the proof that you need. My channel, we've done videos on this showing pictures of the people that did these experiments, The weaponization of fire is a document that's filed with the US government from I believe the 70s or the 80s. It's been around for decades, So it's not a secret. These companies have not been keeping this secret. But, you know, Biden comes on and says that it's ridiculous that we can change or control the weather, where it's so obvious that if you just look a little bit under the under the surface, you will find all the information you need.
• 34:14
  And I really hope this is going to allow more people to do that because we cannot afford to wait any longer. You know, everyone needs to get up to date on what's really happening. And once you get to that point where you're like, okay, this is happening, you'll see it everywhere. You know, there is no denying it at this point. And so, yeah, it's proved it's proven and you if you're in this area, you feel it.
• 34:44
  And I'm really having a hard time dealing with people that are not even willing to look into this because some of them have already lost their homes. I mean, what more do you need to happen before you wake up and start speaking out? I don't know.
• 35:05
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. Stephanie, what are your thoughts on the the geoengineering with with this?
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: You know, there's there are a lot of people who will study satellites, look at radars. We've already seen one of our favorite creators who studies satellites and radars. His channel or his handle is Into Thin Air.
• 35:28
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, I follow him.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Amazing. And so he'll be the first person to call out, hey. Did you see that right there on the satellite? And so he's been he's been unfortunately seeing that in California. And that's when Tracy was tipped off, I think as long as two weeks ago, she did her first video that said, there's something fishy going on.
• 35:56
  It could get worse. I don't understand it. But the people who are studying things like the weather, the satellite systems, the different patterns in the skies, they're seeing some red flags. And one of the things that we've learned is that this stratospheric aerosol injection program, it's making things more flammable. And so what we saw in Lahaina, which I cannot, I'm not actually, I'm in Aspen, Colorado right now, so I'm not in California at the moment, but we know that they're spraying continually there.
• 36:32
  There's almost not a day where I don't know if, Tracy, you can recall the last time you saw clear blue skies.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: We are very rare. I think there's a freaking day or I think the day Trump got, I think November 5, maybe there was a day that was very unusual, but it's almost always being sprayed.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: It unusually naturally, you mean? That's so that that's one of the things we did see on August 7 with regards to Lahaina, is we saw there was a very thick haze. We saw sort of wind tornadoes on the water, multiple videos from different directions of the same sort of wind tunnels or tornadoes. And so all that is to say, weather engineering was in my first book, Burn Back Better, the only thing that made sense to me. And since the first book about Hawaii, it's still the scariest thing.
• 37:34
  I know that, you know, we're looking at porcelain that isn't melting and, you know, things that will not melt in a brush fire are melting. You know, Steph, you mentioned engine blocks and stuff like So we're seeing evidence probably of directed energy, but the thing we absolutely there's no denying that there is geoengineering and the different ways that that plays into these fires spreading fast and burning hot is undeniable.
• 38:08
  Seth Holehouse: And, also, I I remember, in in Matt and Lahaina that there were insane winds that that was part of it. Like, that was just and, you know, like, we've got a fireplace. I live in a in a in a cold region, so I've always got a fire going. And, you know, you know if you blow on that fire, it just it just lights up. And that's the whole, you idea of the old blacksmith furnaces, you know, the whole hand crank, they're blowing into the hot embers.
• 38:31
  And so that's what it does. It creates just these wicked conditions, for fire. And so the question
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: actually a really
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: good point because in Lahaina, I think that well, the vast vast majority of our survivor, citizen journalists, testimonials, people we've interviewed, the vast, vast majority said that the winds were changing direction. Originally, the scapegoat for the Lahaina fire was Hurricane Dora, which is impossible, not only because of how far away it was, but because everyone we asked pretty much said that the wind was changing direction. That doesn't happen with a hurricane. And I'm curious, haven't interviewed quite as many people in California, but Tracy, did you notice any, besides the veracity of the wind, besides just how strong the wind has been blowing pots over in your yard? Have you noticed direction changes?
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: So generally, and Shane explained this, what they have to do is initially the winds can't be too strong because it will put the fire out, so you'll have like twenty, thirty, 40 mile an hour winds. Also, the humidity gets dropped, and in the Malibu fire, the Franklin fire, the humidity dropped to like under 10% at night. Usually it's the opposite. It usually gets more humid at night, so I I don't exactly know how they did that, but once the fires start going, then the winds pick up and you get these 80 mile an hour gusts, and that's what carries it and they're able to manipulate it in a way to carry it where it is and they're also able to use the excuse that these embers are traveling miles away. I heard a fire captain say that an ember can travel two miles and I'm like, I I just find that hard to believe.
• 40:30
  And also these fires are way farther from each other so there's another ignition source. A lot of it we think might be going through the electrical systems and smart meters might be involved, But I did notice initially it wasn't that bad. So I was thinking, okay, maybe it's not going to be that crazy. But the night that the night after it started, that's when it got crazy. I know I've been asked to kind of time it because it kind of comes and goes.
• 40:57
  And it's very, very drastic. I mean, I I look at the trees and they're still and then all of a sudden, the wind is gusting and and dirt is hitting my face. My car was covered in dust and and like and dirt. So that's how strong it was. I was picking up the dirt and putting it on my car.
• 41:14
  That's never happened to me. So I don't I didn't actually time it because it's kind of hard to tell. It doesn't, you know, kind of starts up and it gets stronger. But that wind was definitely not something that felt normal. Also the humidity, they somehow they are able to adjust the humidity with precision, which I don't know how they can.
• 41:39
  Also, I wish more people will ask because we know that cloud seeding can help precipitation. Why haven't they been doing that if they knew a fire was coming? They're always saying, Oh, we haven't had rain for ten weeks. Well, why don't they do something about it? They could have been doing something about it.
• 41:57
  They purposely didn't do anything about it. And right now they could be bringing rain, you know, to help with the situation, And it's not going to rain. I can tell you that, not at least for a little while. But there's definitely something going on. And I really, really hope a lot of people are using this moment to really check themselves and say, okay, maybe I do need to change my ways because I feel like, like my generation, we're told, you know, there's no spiritual world, everything that happens has to be tested through the scientific method or, you know, we can just disregard that.
• 42:34
  But there's just too much that we are missing out on by staying with that mentality. And I feel like, and I heard Tucker Carlson saying this also, is like those people that really bought into that, that everything is science based. We're also told you're the smartest people in the village. You know, you're the doctors, you're the attorneys, you're the CEOs. So I think for a lot of people like that, it's very hard for them to ask themselves, maybe I've been wrong this whole time.
• 43:05
  Maybe I've been lied to my whole life. That's a very hard pill to swallow. But we just don't have any more time to not do that. So I'm just, you know, there's a silver lining. I hope that all this tragedy does allow a lot more people to get to that point because there are a lot of people like that that have the means to influence others.
• 43:29
  There are a lot of people here that are like that and they're able to change their mind. It's just hard when you've built a life on a lie. You know, you're supporting your family like that. You have a nice life. I can understand it's hard to give that up.
• 43:45
  Seth Holehouse: But Especially if if you're successful. Like Yeah. You know, it's one thing. I think that's a lot of people that actually end up kind of awakening the truth. You know, a lot of times are people that are struggling.
• 43:55
  Like, they they feel the the boot of the globalist on their back, and they see it in the taxes they're paying. And but you have these people that end up you know, they're in a $5,000,000 home in in a fancy area of California. They've done really well for themselves. It's, you know, it's it's like, you know, it's it's like the the the camel going through the eye of the needle. Right?
• 44:13
  The the wealthy man going to heaven is because if if you're if you're sleeping on a mattress stuck with money and you got everything you want, you know, the the spiritual realm isn't that important to you. But, you know, the the person that, you know, doesn't have a home or is is wandering or whatever, which is why, you know, traditionally, a lot of religions had wandering monks or or different religious folk that had to experience that to, you know, go go through that that that awakening process. And and so I and I do believe, though, that that both of you had mentioned this, and I see it too, and I'm I'm I'm really I'm very much so a silver lining kinda guy. Don't know. Okay.
• 44:45
  Where is the positive spin here? Because there always is. I really believe in in the the idea of the the duality. Right? The the good and the evil, and they're always opposing each other.
• 44:53
  And and so I do see that, though, that a lot of times, we what we see with COVID, like, in the whole pandemic and everything that that in my opinion, that's what triggered the great awakening was was COVID.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 45:04
  Seth Holehouse: And and it like, so many people that I woke up sorry that I I've spoken to, and a question that I commonly ask was, like, what was it for you? Right? Like, what was it for you that said, hey. Something's not right. And so many of them would just say, gosh.
• 45:17
  It was COVID. I just I could tell something was wrong. I saw how the government handled it, and and that was what and kind of corrupted the their trust in the government and the institutions. And so with California, which has really been one of the liberal democratic, strongholds in America for a very, very long time, it it's really significant because when you see these videos of the or even the mayor of LA, I saw a video earlier talking about this guy. I think Elon Musk shared a video of this black guy who was, you know, kinda dressed really nice.
• 45:50
  He was kinda giving, like, a little kind of overview of I think it was the mayor of LA and how she used to she was going back and forth from Cuba all the time, and she was involved in these very Cuban, you know, kinda communist movements. And so Yeah. Like, what you're seeing is that if you're looking at this with with half your brain turned on even, you're seeing, oh, all these policies, like, you know, it's like defund the police or defund the fire departments or send the equipment to Ukraine. What what people there are seeing is it's all of these policies, these Marxist like, I wouldn't call them liberal or Democrat because it's it's like they're actually it it's like it's changed. It's not that anymore.
• 46:27
  But, really, these Marxist and globalist policies, like, this is where it leaves you. And just just wait until, say, you know, tomorrow, the next day they come out and they announce that they'll be giving they're gonna be giving, you know, cash and and gift cards to all the illegals that have suffered from this. Like, wait till you have that where the p the American people that were maybe, like, all for, you know, immigration and you keep the borders open are like, wait. Like, they're getting money and food, and and I lost my house? It's it's like it always, you know, comes out and slaps you in the face.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I really hope you're right, Seth. I mean, it's it's a weird time in Los Angeles and in California politically because I do feel a lot of people during the pandemic is when the separation of those two groups happened and like you were either gung ho for it or you started questioning like this is not right, but as time goes on, as we see the children suffering from the lockdowns and everything, and now we're seeing all these vaccine injuries and, you know, people dropping dead. And I mean, I've been to four funerals this past year, and I hadn't been to one for a very, very long time, and not all of these people are elderly. So when those things start, you know, happening to you in real time, I hope that means there's going to be a more, there's going to be a shift in that because California has been very compliant and very, I guess, liberal, which, you know, that doesn't really mean as much as it used to.
• 47:58
  But, know, people here really need to wake up. I know a lot of people are just leaving. Some people just can't, you know, they have good jobs here. They have family here. You know, they've built their roots here.
• 48:11
  But I I know for sure that was the moment when I started questioning, like, the government doesn't have my best interest, and they don't have my children's best And I started learning more and it just became ever more evident. But it is still kind of weird for me to talk about it because I do feel like there's still that other side that is like, no, you have to get your vaccine. Know, many
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: Did you get your second one? And it's like
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Well, it's like you said, I mean, you feel like you're a closet libertarian or a closet conservative if you have anything that is not straight, like blue no matter who in California, and it almost swung fiftyfifty and that's something very interesting to consider and I know that with some of my authors, with a lot of my authors actually, a lot of them are in LA specifically, they're making movies or they're, you know, we've got video editors and sound engineers and all these people who work with my publishing company and we just because like attracts like, a lot of people who work with my company over the years have been extremely Bible believing Christian men and women. And what they've shared with me is that, you know, while we can't get into the Golden Globes or we can't get into XYZ event without our card, you know, they found a way to get it. None of my business. But, you know, there are a lot of people who have been complying with the system who don't believe in it. I think the really exciting thing that we're seeing now is, it's if you will, might have woken up during COVID, and now it's a real slap in the face.
• 49:59
  The other thing that I am learning, and I'm sure that the two of you have heard about a lot of the groups, I don't know if I can even name any of the names, but there are a lot of actors and actresses who have had spiritual awakenings, who want to continue playing in movies, and who do not reveal what they believe. And so when you see the Paris Hilton's or when you see some of these people have their homes incinerated, you know, what what we also have to remember on that glass half full side is that there is an active a beautiful awakening in Hollywood. So, it's another reason I don't think that god would just I I do think that this is just the next level of our country taking back the culture. And it's and and God is allowing us to take it back by allowing us to have a little pain until we can say, alright, wait a minute. Something is off here.
• 51:07
  The people who've been controlling the messages, the, you know, the communistic stuff, other political things that have been infiltrating culture through movies, those people don't have our best interest in mind.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: Look what
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: they just did. The people that finally put the pieces together, like Tracy and I have been doing in Sound the Alarm, and go up to the head of the snake. This is very, very positive for our culture.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what Hollywood, the music industry, the mainstream media, how they're going to react. I don't think they're just going to give up their power. Think they're going to try to shift in a way that allows them to maintain that. But I think the jig is up. Hollywood is not these gods that we used to worship and love and tune in and have parties for the Academy Awards.
• 52:02
  Something went on X yesterday and it said the Golden Globes were about to start. And I'm like, who the hell cares now? It's like, no one cares. Like, the Oscars. And but, you know, I have I have young kids and she wanted to see Wicked.
• 52:17
  So I was like, okay. And actually, we both couldn't stand for it. We, I said, do want to leave? She goes, yeah. Mean, it just, it's, you know, Hollywood has become a mouthpiece for the political is that want to be expressed.
• 52:32
  You just can't do art like that. Like, that's not how art works. It's not a company. It's not a money making mechanism. Art needs to be separate from that.
• 52:41
  It needs to be separate from politics. I heard George Lucas say that early on, like, you know, they're using these marketing tactics to promote their art, but art will die in that process. And I think we're seeing that, but I don't know what's gonna happen. Maybe it'll go completely other the other way and everything will be independent thing. People in charge are gonna make it that easy.
• 53:06
  So we'll
• 53:07
  Seth Holehouse: see. Agree.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: Well, we
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: killed mainstream media. There's hope for
• 53:10
  Seth Holehouse: Hollywood. That's true. Well, even it's funny because we my wife and I are watching Landman recently, right, with Billy Bob Thornton, you know, big production, a list actor, and it's like like, they they made this show for conservatives. Like, it's it's interesting. You know?
• 53:25
  Like, they're they're mocking they're mocking a lot a lot of the more kinda leftist agenda, which is interesting.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 53:32
  Seth Holehouse: But but I wanna as as we're wrapping up, I wanna talk a little about sound the alarm. Right? So this is this was your most recent book on the Maui situation in Lahaina. So walk us through so, okay, the website is just the Mauibook.com. So the Mauibook.com.
• 53:50
  You can still buy it, of course. Encourage you to. But walk us through the book, what people can can expect from this, and what you discovered in this process.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: Alright. Steph, I'll let you start with, like, the beginning, and then I can go into a little bit of the part that I wrote.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, that makes You know, the first book covers the of the empirical evidence that there was either gross negligence and incompetence or premeditated criminal activity with the Ohana fires. What we did in sound the alarm though, was we connected the dots. And so in Burn Back Better, we list every bizarre thing that points to criminal negligence. And then at the end of the book, I quoted Dane Wigginton and I said, the only guy that makes sense is this dude talking about weather engineering, but I don't know what's happening. I think the theories about lasers are nuts, and I don't trust anyone who told me about lasers.
• 55:00
  And so then, of course, we met Shane and Tracy, and we started to get into satellite images. We started looking at, unfortunately, bodies and different things that were burned. Tracy and I both made a trip. Tracy, were you in the burn? No.
• 55:19
  We got into the burn and we took pictures from this area that today, in terms of January ninth of twenty twenty five, is still basically under like this military security, you cannot go in the burn. So to write Sell the Alarm, not only did we go into the burn with someone who assisted with Burn Back Better, but in addition to that, we worked with investigation teams on the island and scientists, engineers, meteorologists, arborists, you name it. So it's much, much, much robust than the first book. The first book basically, it's the primer for Sound the Alarm.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: Right. And so Sound the Alarm will have more proof because it happened later where there was more evidence, there was more knowledge, more things had happened to prove the land grab. You know, We saw how the politicians reacted and how they're reacting till this day, which is basically the same thing. They're just not saying anything. So it kind of allows us to prove, I guess, what we've been saying because it had been some time.
• 56:33
  But if you read Sound the Alarm and you still don't believe in the globalist agenda and believe that these technologies exist, I don't know what else can
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: And we didn't even talk about the manipulation with climate change, and that's for another day. But we could go on for hours about how the climate alarmism is fueling, no pun intended, some of the legislation before these fires and after these fires. I mean, right now, the only thing being built in Lahaina is basically prison camps on the hill with so much surveillance that you cannot pick your nose without something or somebody documenting it. And so when people ask me, short answer, what's the future for Lahaina? I'm like, everyone's going to live in a tiny little cabin, but it's only whoever's left because none of them can afford to stay there.
• 57:28
  And so what's funny is all the legislation that's creating this eminent domain or these restrictions on the rebuild was all billed under two things, affordable housing ironically, and climate change. And so we go into that huge history of how different communities, hopefully not your community, but that's no one in LA thought this would happen to them. Hopefully, your community is not banging this climate change, climate alarmism drum, and they don't have a bunch of transit oriented corridor and smart city, and, you know, and and they're billing it under affordable housing, which is very, very sneaky, but when you dig into those bills, it's essentially smart cities.
• 58:20
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. Yeah. Which again is is LA, we're seeing it again. So, again, so pull up the website for that, the Mauibook.com. I encourage folks to check it out.
• 58:30
  Purchase it. It's a way of supporting, you know, the two of you, which is something we should be doing because we need more people that are citizen journalists and that are publishing books and that are, you know, kind of fighting the information war. And I and I I do feel, like, in many ways that we're winning. I've got my questions about Musk and what's happened with the the new rounds of censorship on x and some of the antisemitism laws and some of the things that they're trying to push through, which fundamentally, I think, restrict our speeches. I don't like for any reason, but I do believe, though, that there is a massive awakening happening, and it gives me hope.
• 59:02
  I mean, even though there's there's, like, all the craziness that's that's happening, we're all human, and we have souls. And, you know, no one can change that. And I think that our souls and our nature emerges amidst these tribulations, and and you see the best of people emerge. And so, hopefully, we see more of that. Do either of you have any closing thoughts as we're as we're signing off here?
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: I just really hope as someone that's been in LA for so long and has been raised and born and raised in Hawaii, I really hope that people start taking this seriously. I know I've been saying this this whole time, but my channel has all the information you could possibly need to understand this topic. It's brush junkie by the way, so I've been reporting all of this, not everything, but as much as I can on that channel. And I just I just really hope more people open their eyes, especially people that are in this area because I'm I keep looking at my fire app and there's just more keep popping up. And I'm just I'm kind of starting to get a little like, creeped out because yesterday, one happened about five miles away in an area that I'm like, how did a fire start there?
• 1:00:22
  Like, I never thought a fire could start in a barren field. I I don't know, but I just hope a lot of people start speaking out. I know a lot of people do feel this way, like the way I do, but, you know, start a conversation and start, you know, talking about it with people who normally wouldn't want to. So that's my main message.
• 1:00:44
  Seth Holehouse: And Stephanie, how about you?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I would say the most important thing people can take away from from this event, and and I know it's really hard to process things because a lot of us are creating, you know, maybe lost property or, you know, hardships for friends. But please take a peek, pay attention into what's going on in local legislation in your community because there was a lot of writing on the wall with Asheville and the lithium and Albemarle. Albemarle somehow showed up and sound the alarm as well. I mean, there's so many consistencies with these tragedies, with these events.
• 1:01:29
  And I even looked because I'm in Colorado. I said, what minerals are in my area do I need to move after Asheville? You know, play the game offensively. Grab sound the alarm, figure out what's going on in your community, and get involved.
• 1:01:47
  Seth Holehouse: Good points. And and, ultimately, just take responsibility. I mean, that's that's one of the big lessons here is prepare, you know, look at what disasters could happen, make sure your family is is understands how to do things. I mean, that that's a that's a big one. So well, Stephanie, Tracy, thank you both so much.
• 1:02:06
  And then this is very last minute. I texted you both, you know, like, you know, like, kinda almost in the evening. So I appreciate your turnaround and and being able to come on here tonight at such a late hour. And, but, yeah, thank you for for doing what you're doing and for being here with us tonight. And, yeah, just it's it's been great having you.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: Right. Tremendous honor, Seth.
• 1:02:26
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• 1:02:43
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• 1:03:16
  So thank you for that. And for everyone that came tonight and everyone who's been part of this live show, thank you very much. Take care. God bless you. I'll see you next time.
• 1:03:25
  Have a wonderful evening.