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Super Bowl 60 Final Thoughts, Iowa women fall to Minnesota, Eugene Rapay Talks Cyclone Hoops & the Chicken Coop Contest · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  All right, Good afternoon. Welcome Miller and Condon on a
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  football Friday. Can we?
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  Last one last. One, welcome to our program.
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  We're going to talk sports with you for the next couple of hours
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  and appreciate you starting your afternoon here with us.
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  Coming up on the program, we'll start in about 25 minutes with
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  our friend Eugene Repay from the Des Moines Register.
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  Eugene, we'll talk. Iowa State, Iowa State, the men
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  back on the floor finally after a week break.
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  They played Sunday, didn't they? Well, for the most part, a week
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  break, Baylor in town. I saw a number posted for
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  tomorrow's game. Iowa State, I believe it was at
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  FanDuel, 14 1/2. Iowa State favored over the
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  Bears tomorrow. That was the one and only post
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  at wager talk when it came to a a point spread for that one.
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  So Baylor comes to town and getting a whole bunch of points.
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  We will use that, by the way, in our chicken coop, which will
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  follow Eugene repay 4 of you. If you haven't played in the
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  last 30 days, you're eligible to do so.
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  When we give you that cue to call about O 12:45 or so, we'll
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  line up four of you, give you 4 questions or four games gives
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  the answer most rights. You'll get a $50.00 gift
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  certificate to use as you please at any of the three chicken
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  coops. The runner up gets 20 wings.
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  That'll be about 12:45 or thereabouts, 1 clock, Tom Cakert
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  on Iowa. We'll talk men, we'll talk
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  women. The women fell to Minnesota last
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  night, tried to come back just too steep of a hill late in that
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  game. So we'll talk to Tom Cakert
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  about basketball, men's and women's and some football with
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  Tom. And then off to Vegas, we'll go
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  and catch up with a friend, Mike Pom, VP of operations at Circa
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  Sports. Kind of get a a gauge of what
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  Vegas is seeing, in particular what Circa is seeing as far as
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  big bets as far as action on this Super Bowl.
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  And I get his thoughts on the matchup over.
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  We'll make some picks. We'll make a pick for the final
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  time and then turn things over to off the bench with Lucas
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  Train and David Eichold filling in for Sean as he attends some
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  family business back home in in Chicago.
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  Good to see you TC. How are?
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  You doing well. A basketball night of a lot of
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  women's hoops last evening with the Iowa Minnesota game.
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  Did you watch most of it? Yeah, watched all of it.
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  Watched quite a bit of the Texas LSU women's game.
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  Then after that on. Is it good?
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  It was Texas pulled away in the fourth quarter, but yeah,
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  pretty, pretty compelling one. I think, opening the eyes, just
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  how good that Texas team is. National championship tech type
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  team are probably a cut below. I mean, is it Yukon?
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  Everybody else? Yeah, is it?
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  Yeah, you know, it's. UCLA good.
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  They're good, yeah. I don't see those teams beating
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  you guys. I don't either.
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  I hope not because I'm using them as a free square and all of
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  my bets it's. Just throwing that in there as
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  well. I'm.
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  Bumping up the price. Well, we did that two years ago
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  in South Carolina. Three years ago, yeah, it
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  worked. No, three years ago it didn't.
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  03 years ago. Caitlin Clark had different
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  ideas. Oh, that three years ago.
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  Was that three years ago? I thought it was more, but it
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  worked the following year, yes. Anyways, so we will talk to Mike
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  Palm about the Super Bowl. What kind of, I mean, does this
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  kind of feel like Super Bowl to you?
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  The match up, at least I it does.
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  And why does it? Because the Patriots been there
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  so many time? No, it's a new cast, obviously.
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  New coach, new quarterback, new everything.
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  I don't know. It's maybe you don't have Drake
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  Bay was really good this year. Second, the MVP is really good,
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  but he's still a new quarterback.
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  Sam Darnold. We know about everything with
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  Sam Darnold. I think that's a component.
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  There are teams that don't have JS, NS outstanding.
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  Sure. I, I don't know.
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  We don't know these guys like we have the Chiefs over the last
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  what, 7 years? I think that's a component to it
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  where every football fan, even the most casual football fan,
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  knows a lot about the Kansas City Chiefs.
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  Sure. In turn, you know a lot about
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  the Philadelphia Eagles. They're teams that it doesn't
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  feel like we know a lot about, I think.
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  It's a very good. Point we got to November and
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  both of us were saying outside of the Buffalo game I've.
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  Only I hadn't seen the Patriots. We didn't know anything about
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  them. How good is this is The Mirage
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  we didn't know I bought? That theory and obviously that
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  whoops, not the right move. Seattle we saw a lot, but that
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  was another one. Towards the back half of the
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  year is when we started. And they kind of get
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  overshadowed, I think, at least here, by obviously pretty mania.
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  And the Niners and the Rams are a public.
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  Team. Yes, absolutely.
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  You know, so it's the Seahawks are, you know, in that division
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  you would think the third most popular, but look at it's not a
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  popularity contest. It's about playing on the field
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  and and Seattle, if there is a blowout, it's Seattle's NCS
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  favor, right? There's three outcomes.
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  Patriots win a closer one, Seattle wins a closer one.
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  Seattle blows them out. I don't see.
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  I don't see a fourth. I I'm with you on that front.
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  I think that is the right way to look at this game.
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  So I have some props that I have circled.
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  I have some things and outside of the goofy ones, the silly
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  ones, I'll bet tails, because I do every single year.
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  We found something offshore for our Mediacom show.
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  Which one you found a bunch? Of them the Seahawks.
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  Will they call heads or tails? That's a really.
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  That was so weird. It was. -500 on the heads +300.
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  That they will call Tails. That they will call Tails that.
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  Doesn't have to come tails they. Don't have to win it call and
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  win, just call. I thought that was absolutely
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  eye opening. So I'm looking for that on some
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  legal apps to see if that's available in any part of it.
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  Couple of game theory ones though.
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  The first one is Kenneth Walker. Kenneth Walker is basically the
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  guy now, right? Two things.
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  The Patriots when they've had basically their full component
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  of defensive players, they haven't allowed anybody to rush
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  for 74 1/2 yards. That's his over, under and
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  rushing yards like the under there another component that.
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  Would make sense. On top of it, we know that
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  Kenneth Walker for whatever reason, he is not a good pass
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  blocker. Well, isn't that pretty much a
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  key? He's in there probably going to
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  run the ball. We're not going to throw it very
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  often when he's in there and against Grable on this defense
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  when they know what's coming. I like the patriots D so under
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  on Kenneth Walker. That's one of the game theory
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  ones that I probably like the most.
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  I mentioned earlier this week I am on the under our longest
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  punts from the Seahawks punter 58 1/2.
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  He's only had or 57 1/2 is the number it.
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  Considers the highest paid punter in football.
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  He has improved this year his hang time and with with it the
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  coverage that has been back behind is given a lot less
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  return yards and I think that's a reason for it.
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  He's putting the ball higher this year.
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  Only four punts all season long a 58 yards or more and I think 2
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  or 50. Eight.
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  What did that? What number did they hang?
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  57 1/2 that was available at DraftKings when I did that.
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  I think Tuesday is what I jumped in.
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  So those are just a couple of the game theory ones that I
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  have, but I know Saturday, Sunday morning, it's going to be
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  that deep dive or really going in there deeper and deeper.
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  But maybe that's a component too.
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  It feels like at this point in the week, I have 10/12/15 of
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  those kind of game theory prop bets that I I like and I've
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  identified. I just don't have it this one.
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  Yeah, I wonder how if if Vegas is kind of the same way.
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  I, I haven't talked to him, I someone back to work this
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  Wednesday through Saturday or this was Sunday and I talked to
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  him every Saturday, every Tuesday.
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  When I talked to him on Tuesday, it's, I mean, it was too early
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  in the week. You know, there was really
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  nothing going on. They'd taken a couple of big
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  ones that were publicized, the $1,000,000 bet that somebody was
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  hedging because they are so, so deep into the Seahawks with
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  their tickets. I, I just can't make a case for,
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  for the Patriots. I, I can't.
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  And this has nothing to do with the fact they beat Denver.
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  I just have thought that the AFC has been an inferior conference
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  all season long and the two teams I thought were the best
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  two teams in football and ended up playing for the championship.
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  I'll tell you a guy in Seattle who I knew nothing about it at
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  South Carolina. Amanda Wari.
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  How's he say? The tall safety?
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  He's a hell of a player. Second round pick from last
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  year, just a rookie. He was the one that the kid that
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  twisted his ankle. How do you say his name?
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  Amanda Wari, Is that Amanda Wari?
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  He's a heck of a player. I didn't realize he was that
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  good, but obviously that's a question mark.
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  So Drake May's gonna, I think. Is he gonna run it more?
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  Is he? He might have to.
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  Yeah, he might have to. He's been sacked a ton
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  throughout these playoffs. Yes.
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  I mean, Houston got to him. Denver is it?
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  Didn't that why? Do you know what?
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  That's probably on? Did the Chargers get to 5?
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  They might have, because I think Denver did.
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  I think Houston got to him five times.
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  And the Chargers would have a nice defense.
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  Wow, that's a that. That's a bunch and and Seattle
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  defense I don't think takes a back seat to very few in this
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  league. What about some of the receivers
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  for New England? Do you like digs, booty or the
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  guy that shows up in bare feet for every game went Mac Hollins?
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  Boy, he's something. Hollins, I think is his number
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  is pretty low and he's out there, been out there a little
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  bit more and I think he's going to be out there plenty in this
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  game. That would be 1 and I think 21
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  1/2 is like his yardage total, something like that.
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  I had that one. I at least identified I had a
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  Stefan digs. He's been good in the third
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  quarter this year. I had a stuffed it Stefan digs
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  third quarter. It's like 4 1/2 yards, basically
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  needs a catch. So he needs one catch in the
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  third. Quarter Well, he'll probably
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  catch a screen for two yards and I'll lose that bet.
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  I mean, that's that's the way that it totally goes.
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  But that one feels good, you know, and kick booty.
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  Can he get deep? Can he get behind the Seahawks
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  defense? I don't.
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  Know that I don't think so. That's what I'm betting on, that
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  he can't 'cause they're they're, I think they got a good
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  secondary. I love the kid Witherspoon of
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  the from Illinois, right, Illinois.
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  I think he was part of the Russell Wilson.
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  He was Denver's draft pick. I mean, he was Denver's pick for
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  the Wilson and they took Witherspoon in that spot.
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  Bryan's a nice player, man. War.
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  He's a guy that's got my attention.
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  I'm sure I'm butchering his name, but I don't know.
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  I don't think there's a coaching edge in the in the in the game.
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  I I don't how about this? Part of it.
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  So Mike McDonald, he was with Baltimore for a long time.
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  Where else has he been? I I don't know the answer to
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  that. You know, bring up his full
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  resume here. He's born in 87.
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  Good God, it's unreal. See, really born in 87, all
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  right. Coordinator for the Ravens.
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  Before that, Michigan. Before that, linebacker coach
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  with the Raiders. So basically, he's been to the
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  Ravens his whole career. So he hasn't been to a Super
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  Bowl in a really long time. Mike Vrabel has institutional
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  knowledge of the Super Bowl. With without a doubt, I mean the
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  craziest Mike Vrabel stat, and I think we looked it up one time
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  before and I can't remember the number in his career, linebacker
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  Mike Vrabel caught, I want to say 10 passes.
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  All of them went for a touchdown.
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  Every single pass that he caught as a linebacker, when he would
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  be brought in on the offense, it was a touchdown.
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  How many is it? It's 11.
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  It's 111111 during the regular, 11 overall.
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  Right. And that one of them didn't go
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  for a touchdown. Right, All 11 went for touchdown
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  was crazy, yes. Did you have a touchdown in the
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  Super Bowl or no? One in the postseason.
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  OK, let's see. Caught 2 touchdowns back-to-back
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  Super Bowl wins. Super Bowl?
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  What would that be? Roman numerals are dumb.
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  I hate it 38 I don't get it. 38 and 39.
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  Yeah, but why do we do? Why do they do?
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  This, I have no idea. And then you got the I in front
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  of the V All right. That takes it back to four.
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  It takes 2. I learned Roman numerals
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  probably in 1965 in. 1987 for me, but the same year Mike
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  McDonald was born. I mean, who uses Roman numerals?
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  We got to stop. Wouldn't this be a perfect time?
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  Super Bowl 60? Let's, let's end it now, please.
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  Yes, they won't. Couldn't agree.
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  No, I know they won't for whatever.
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  Reason Super Bowl is 3839 though.
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  I want to, I want to go this way because the Hall of Fame made
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  their announcement yesterday. We've got three guys next year
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  that will be eligible for the first time.
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  I don't know if there's a, a magic number that you only want
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  to get one new guy, 2 new guys because at some point you got to
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  start clearing some of these guys that just get passed over
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  year after year for the Hall of Fame just because there's so
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  many new guys. Of these three new guys, how
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  many get in? And then I'll ask you whom if
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  you give me 3, here's the new guys up for the very first time.
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  Rob Gronkowski, Ben Roethlisberger, Adrian Peterson,
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  First ballot, Hall of Farmers. This time next year, how many on
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  that list will hear will get that knock on the door that
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  they've gained enshrinement to Canton?
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  I think 2 are locks. 2 are locks, 2 are locks.
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  Which one is on the outside looking in?
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  Rob? I agree with you, Rob.
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  Gronkowski is the most talented tight end.
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  Full compliment we have ever seen in football.
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  He's in. Adrian Peterson did historic
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  things. Yes, he's in.
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  He's out. Big Ben is in for you.
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  I got Ben. I think what's going to keep
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  Peterson out of the Hall of Fame And yes, his career screams Hall
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  of Fame, but there's a morality clause now.
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  It's one of the criteria. It's not.
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  I don't think it means more than any of the others.
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  But if you take a look at his body of work as of late, and
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  then you remember the the didn't child abuse with didn't he beat
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  it with a what? They called it a switch.
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  I didn't know what a switch was. Oh.
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  I knew. I knew now don't we do.
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  I won't go, I won't go there. But I, I just wonder if because
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  he's been in and out prison, he's stolen I think over a
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  million, a couple of $1,000,000. I wonder if that'll be held
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  against him. Probably.
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  Do you think? Yeah, he's still only 40.
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  That's crazy too. When he's running back.
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  Yeah, and it quickly does. This comes and goes.
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  So is there a way that all three get in though?
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  I don't know the answer, Trent, because I don't, I think that's
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  too many because there's so there's, there's, I mean Tori
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  Holt, guys like this at some point, I mean even an Eli
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  Matting, whether you think he's, you know, I mean, he's got 2
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  Super Bowls and he's thrown for a million or thousands of yards,
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  not millions, but he's and he's thrown a lot, thrown a lot of
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  touchdown passes. It's the two Super Bowls.
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  Yes, he's got one, but he's in a very unique club with, with two.
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  I think he's got to get in at some point.
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  I don't know. We'll see.
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  I think of the for sure. If it is only one, it's Gronk,
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  right? Yes, yeah, yeah, that's that's
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  the easy one for me. That's the lock of the three.
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  And then if it's down to just one of the two, I would side
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  Peterson. But then, boy, Big Ben 2 Super
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  Bowls led the NFL in passing two different times.
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  I didn't realize that till looking at it.
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  Six time Pro Bowl and it doesn't really matter.
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  Yeah, no, as we know. Yeah, sure, Sanders is in the
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  Pro Bowl. This year, but.
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  Yeah, apparently it was last night or the night before.
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  Yeah, two nights ago was it? Yeah.
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  Didn't make the cut for you. Didn't.
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  Realize was it televised? It was OK, I didn't see it and
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  you watched, I think. It was, no, it was Tuesday
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  night. I think I was calling basketball
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  that. Night.
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  All right, I think that was the Hall of Fame this year is Larry
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  Fitzgerald, Drew Brees, Luke Keikley, Adam Vinatieri.
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  He had to get in. I mean, say what you want,
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  kicker, he's as good as there was at that position.
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  He gets in. I think all of those guys are
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  deserving and Rodger Craig makes the cut.
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  You know what I didn't see? I don't think Ken Anderson that
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  seemingly was going to finally get his hear his name called.
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  I don't think he made the cut and now he and Elsie Greenwood
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  won't get in. I think that was the last time.
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  Wasn't that why some of the voters?
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  Yes, yeah. Because they they, this was the
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  last time they were going to get there.
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  I don't know Ken Anderson, a Hall of Famer to you.
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  No. Same.
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  Same. Nice player.
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  Yeah, nice player. Couple of Super Bowls didn't win
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  them. Hall of Famer can't quite get.
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  There. All right, Let's get Ben real
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  quick and then we will move on. Ben, how are you?
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  Yep. Hey, so why do you think I think
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  of the Hall of Fame? I think of can you tell the
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  game, the story of the game and not bring them up?
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  And I think Manning, I mean, he's he's got these moments in
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  the Super Bowl. I mean, think about the David
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  Tyree catch. Unbelievable beating, beating,
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  beating Patriots, stopping that undefined team.
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  I mean, plugged off Eli was a thing.
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  I mean, he was like, Oh my God, playoff Eli here he is.
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  He's in my mind, he absolutely should be a Hall of Fame.
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  Yeah, I agree with you. Are you a Giants fan by chance
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  or no? I'm a Cowboys.
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  Fan, you know what that resonates even more.
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  Absolutely appreciate that from you, Ben.
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  Thank. You so I think that.
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  Here's my one question, though, and I I I say no.
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  Is Romo a Hall of Famer? No, I don't think so.
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  I don't think so. I mean, when you think of Tony
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  Romo as a football player, you think of why he was fumbling the
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  yes, why was he even holding being the holder there, which is
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  inexplicable for his starting quarterback in that day and age
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  to be doing that anyway, that's where your mind goes first.
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  That's not Hall of Fame. I mean Mark Sanchez, he first
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  think of the butt fumble and and for him and.
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  That's what I'm. Saying yeah, it's tough.
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  And I I say the same thing, but look at passing yardage in
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  Cowboys history. The Dallas Cowboys quarterback,
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  He's the number one stats for all of them.
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  Is that right? Wow, Ben, who do you like to?
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  Who do you like Sunday, by the way, Ben?
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  I got Seahawks about like 2721 I think.
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  All right. Comfortable cover.
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  I think it comes up to special teams.
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  It could. Good.
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  Thanks, Ben. Appreciate the call.
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  Thanks for listening. Good.
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  Yep, that's a good way to look at it.
• 17:46
  Can you tell the tell the story of football with.
• 17:49
  I like that. Yeah, I do too.
• 17:51
  Last three years for Eli. Not good.
• 17:53
  No? Three different times, he threw
• 17:55
  20 or more interceptions. A couple years for his brother
• 17:57
  not. Good.
• 17:58
  That's true too though. There's a Super Bowl that got
• 18:00
  help things. Thank you, Von Miller, Yes.
• 18:03
  And the no fly defense. They went three and 12/5 and
• 18:05
  11:00, and then he's one and three and then his final four
• 18:08
  starts of his career. It petered out.
• 18:11
  But I think Ben's argument is the most relevant if you're
• 18:16
  talking about and then it's just a museum, right?
• 18:19
  That's all this is. It's just a museum.
• 18:21
  And if you're talking cool though, if you're talking about
• 18:23
  the history of the sport, Eli Manning during that period for a
• 18:29
  15 year run from O 4 to 19, he is a huge part of that era of
• 18:33
  football, not just two Super Bowls, but who he dispatched to
• 18:36
  do it, the fashion. How many times we bring up Tom
• 18:39
  Coughlin in the cold? Well, Eli was a quarterback that
• 18:41
  won that game in Lambeau Field and Tom Coughlin looked like
• 18:45
  rather be anywhere else. That Red Nose bold to see and he
• 18:49
  was ready to get out of there. Those are the memories that you
• 18:52
  have of that era in a museum. Yes, he should be there though
• 18:56
  the stats don't measure up the numbers compared to many other
• 18:59
  quarterbacks don't. The two super.
• 19:01
  Bowls, Super Bowls, I think put you in that.
• 19:03
  And if it was just against another AFCT?
• 19:05
  Right, it was against Brady in 19 and oh.
• 19:07
  Yes. To do that against that squad, I
• 19:10
  think that elevates it. Even beat Brady both times.
• 19:12
  Yes, right, Alan Belichick, I'll give you that.
• 19:16
  Did you see Matthew Stafford on the stage last night accepting
• 19:18
  his at Most Valuable Player? Award.
• 19:20
  I did not. Oh.
• 19:20
  That's so good, I won't spoil it.
• 19:23
  Look, bring it up and. You think so?
• 19:26
  I thought it was good. I'm a I mean, you know, I mean,
• 19:29
  I cried. Yeah.
• 19:30
  It, it tugged it, it got me. And I'm not a girl, Dad.
• 19:34
  I'm not a. Girl, dad.
• 19:34
  OK, That's what it was about. Yeah, it all right.
• 19:37
  Daughters were on the stage. OK.
• 19:39
  I mean, that was pretty cool. And then the way, yeah, it's
• 19:42
  good. It's good.
• 19:43
  Anyways, Eugene repay is coming up.
• 19:45
  He covers Iowa State. We will get into that on the
• 19:48
  other side, Des Moines Register, of course, is where you can read
• 19:51
  Eugene. We've got our chicken coop
• 19:53
  giveaway. We'll give you the cue to call
• 19:55
  there in about, oh, 25 minutes or thereabouts from right now.
• 19:59
  Obviously the Super Bowl will be a part of it.
• 20:01
  You want to throw a prop in? Oh, absolutely.
• 20:03
  Hey, by the way, I think you told me about this and I'm, I'm
• 20:06
  reason I'm bringing it up and not doing so during a commercial
• 20:08
  break and thanking you is. So I was watching, trying to
• 20:12
  find something to watch last night.
• 20:13
  Settle on a hockey game. Not settle.
• 20:15
  I love hockey and it was Florida and Tampa and they hate each
• 20:17
  other and it and it and it didn't disappoint.
• 20:22
  So I'm going to my guide and whatever the Hell's this game
• 20:25
  right. He was on ESPN plus, but you
• 20:27
  told me that in the ESP NS the two O 620-720-8209 that you get
• 20:32
  to a point now that DIRECTV is listing ESPN pluses and you
• 20:37
  don't have to go to the extra remote to do that song and
• 20:39
  dance. It's right there and it worked
• 20:43
  it. Worked.
• 20:44
  How about that? And, and Drake's on there
• 20:46
  tonight against who? The Illinois State tonight, I
• 20:48
  think. Drake, Illinois State, that's a
• 20:50
  game changer for you. It's a game changer, Yes, it's
• 20:53
  so much easier. Simplifying things for the old
• 20:55
  man. Thank you.
• 20:57
  Hey, what are the local front quickly just on the Iowa women's
• 21:00
  basketball team? Yeah, we should.
• 21:01
  Thank you. Yes. 9185 Not as close as the
• 21:04
  final score. To the No, it wasn't.
• 21:06
  They could string together stops.
• 21:07
  So I found this number outside of the UConn game.
• 21:10
  You put that off? Yeah.
• 21:12
  Their last three games now playing full time without Taylor
• 21:15
  McCain and I know, yes. 2 W coasters and then home.
• 21:18
  It was a minute that she was gone in the game against Ohio
• 21:20
  State, I get it. But since then, with her in the
• 21:23
  starting lineup now not in the starting lineup, they have had
• 21:26
  their three worst defensive performances outside of the
• 21:28
  Yukon Game one O 8 defensive rating against USC, 119 against
• 21:32
  UCLA and last night against Minnesota was even worse than
• 21:35
  they did against UConn defensively. 129.4, a hundreds
• 21:38
  average. If you're above that, that's
• 21:39
  bad. 129.4, That is hideous. 10 of 14.
• 21:43
  And the court concern, I thought was the end of Sophie Hart
• 21:45
  inside. She's 65.
• 21:47
  She's pretty. Yeah.
• 21:48
  She was the only starter that didn't have double figures for
• 21:50
  Minnesota last night. They're 10 of 14 from behind the
• 21:52
  arc defensively. They look lost and he couple it
• 21:56
  all right. Ian McCabe out there and Jan, we
• 21:57
  talked about her quote where she said she makes all the right
• 21:59
  plays, right supposed to switch. She does.
• 22:01
  She hedges when she's supposed to.
• 22:02
  You know she's going to be in the right spot.
• 22:04
  We know Kyler Fierbach, though, good defender, however, kind of
• 22:09
  a whole offensively now you got that out there and you're
• 22:12
  playing four on five and you're going to have to do it for
• 22:14
  longer stretches when that happens.
• 22:17
  Last night's tremolo, she really struggled.
• 22:20
  There's not an easy elixir here. There's not something easy that
• 22:22
  you can point to for Jan and say, oh, just do this and it'll
• 22:25
  be fine. I think the concerns are
• 22:26
  starting to grow a little bit. I, I'm, I was dead wrong.
• 22:30
  I thought the McCabe entry was not going to be a big deal.
• 22:32
  It was a lot bigger than I certainly anticipate.
• 22:34
  I think those numbers that you just throw kind of back that up,
• 22:38
  unfortunately. All right, let's head to
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• 22:55
  Eugene repay is next. Miller and Condon on Des Moines
• 22:58
  Sports Station One O 6.3 KXNO. Hi, Miller Condon, welcome back.
• 23:16
  Just past 12:30 and a Friday before the Super Bowl still to
• 23:22
  come. This hour, we'll get 4 of you an
• 23:23
  opportunity to play for some grub from the Chicken Koopa.
• 23:26
  Let's talk some Iowa State, shall we?
• 23:28
  We do so every Friday with Eugene Repay, assuming he's not
• 23:31
  an airplane and Iowa State's at home this week.
• 23:34
  So you're not on an airplane. What did you do all week,
• 23:36
  Eugene? Iowa State was off.
• 23:38
  Did you stay busy? I stayed busy but mostly just
• 23:42
  twiddled my thumbs. It's weird having this quote UN
• 23:45
  quote vibe, but it is nice to be back at home for the weekend and
• 23:49
  actually be in Iowa for once and not on an airplane.
• 23:51
  Yeah, no doubt about it. Well, a building will be packed
• 23:54
  tomorrow. Here come the Baylor Bears.
• 23:57
  Iowa State playing so well right now, Eugene, they've certainly
• 24:00
  cured that. Those slow starts.
• 24:03
  How much do you think that that was was emphasized before they
• 24:08
  kind of turned things around? Was that something that they,
• 24:11
  you know, as TJ brought it up that we, you know, we spent time
• 24:13
  trying to figure out why was why was we were getting off to such
• 24:17
  a slow start? We did AB and C and now
• 24:20
  seemingly they've turned the corner.
• 24:21
  How big of an emphasis was put on that, Eugene, do you know?
• 24:24
  Yeah, I've asked TJ about that directly, and he said that he
• 24:28
  won't put any stock into the narratives about slow starts or
• 24:31
  past starts, But it's been more so of a change and being more
• 24:34
  aggressive, being more assertive early, establishing and imposing
• 24:37
  themselves defensively. And we've seen them come out to
• 24:39
  these big runs right off the bat, just absolutely take the
• 24:42
  win and take the souls out of their opponents in the first
• 24:45
  couple of minutes. And then they come out to these
• 24:47
  dominating leads. And and once you have such a hot
• 24:49
  start like that, a fast start like that, it's really, you
• 24:53
  know, off to the races from there and and you don't see them
• 24:56
  give up that momentum. It's been nonstop 40 minutes.
• 24:59
  I was just imposing themselves. One thing I found interesting
• 25:03
  listening to TJ earlier this week is he brought up, of
• 25:06
  course, Tamen Lipsy and and but he brought up Nate Heisey and we
• 25:10
  go back to the summer and it's a conversation, Eugene, that we
• 25:13
  had in one of the more kind of eye opening I, I guess quotes
• 25:17
  maybe of the summer from TJ Otzenberger.
• 25:19
  Is he kind of called Nate Heisey out tough love?
• 25:22
  Yeah, absolutely. And they come back here after
• 25:25
  using the stick a little bit, coming back with the carrot and
• 25:27
  Nate Heisey talked about him playing with tremendous
• 25:30
  confidence and and having that kind of guy coming off the bench
• 25:33
  and Heisey's played well. I just found that interesting
• 25:35
  and maybe had to do things a little bit different for a fifth
• 25:37
  year senior. Yeah, for for Nate Heisey, it
• 25:41
  seems like most of his attitude change and his resurgence has
• 25:44
  come from just the sole fact that this is it.
• 25:46
  This is the last ride, this is the last season.
• 25:49
  There's no more next year, there's no more next summer.
• 25:51
  There's there's really only nine regular season games left.
• 25:54
  And after that, who knows what the postseason will bring.
• 25:57
  So he's looking to make the most of those opportunities right
• 26:00
  now. But when Nate Heisey, the whole
• 26:02
  point for him or the point of emphasis for him is now just
• 26:05
  being more aggressive, having the green light to shoot some
• 26:07
  more. And usually when they're
• 26:09
  basketball players, you think, hey, that's that's an easy
• 26:12
  concept. If my coach tells me to shoot it
• 26:14
  more or go after it more, no problem.
• 26:16
  We saw what Nate Heisey was able to do against K State.
• 26:19
  We saw what he was able to do at the end of last season as well.
• 26:22
  I don't know if it's going to be the beginning of another
• 26:25
  February Heisey stretch, but Iowa State will definitely
• 26:27
  welcome that. But when he's able to be
• 26:29
  assertive like that, you see how much she helps Iowa State.
• 26:33
  Cause when came in, Lipsy and Milan, mom Chilovich and Joshua
• 26:36
  Jefferson are drawing all that attention from the defense.
• 26:39
  And if you're going to leave him open and he's going to cash in
• 26:42
  on those threes and at the one point in the K State game where
• 26:45
  he scored eight straight points, you love to see that kind of
• 26:48
  production from him. Obviously he impacts winning
• 26:51
  with his rebounding and his defense in other ways, but if
• 26:54
  he's also able to add to the scoring output as well, it can
• 26:57
  only help the ceiling for the Cyclones.
• 26:59
  No doubt about it, Eugene. I don't know what it was about
• 27:02
  the Baylor game. I know that Munchilovich was in
• 27:04
  foul trouble. It was by far his worst
• 27:06
  offensive output in Big 12 play. This year was way back in
• 27:10
  January. I'm not sure you or Travis made
• 27:13
  the trip to Waco, but if you remember the game, what was it
• 27:16
  that that Baylor did to maybe limit Monchilovich?
• 27:20
  Because few have teams, as we've seen since that game, have been
• 27:24
  able to come close to holding him the way that Baylor did.
• 27:27
  Do you remember that game, Eugene?
• 27:29
  Yeah, the the foul trouble was a problem.
• 27:32
  I think it was also just another one of those really slow start
• 27:35
  for Iowa State across the board. Just offensively there wasn't
• 27:38
  much rhythm and when came and lips, he was tagged with those
• 27:41
  two fouls in the first couple of minutes of the game.
• 27:44
  You lose that kind of facilitator, you lose that guy
• 27:46
  to help make the offense flow. So I think as a result, Milliman
• 27:50
  Killovich suffered from came lips.
• 27:52
  He being relegated to the bench for that first half.
• 27:55
  I would say had the slow start offensively, Baylor played
• 27:58
  pretty well defensively. It helped that Joshua Jefferson
• 28:02
  was able to snag the lead at the end of the first half there with
• 28:04
  that three. But in in the second-half when
• 28:07
  Lipsy was back out there, you saw the offense blow way better.
• 28:11
  But I I just think it was one of those where with a tough start,
• 28:14
  it was tough for Montelowitz to get into a groove.
• 28:16
  But definitely interested to see what the rematch will look like.
• 28:21
  There's also a lot of talk about what they're doing on the
• 28:22
  boards, not on the defensive end, but the offensive
• 28:25
  rebounding. And TJ talked a little bit about
• 28:27
  when you talk about top flight programs, Florida, Houston in
• 28:30
  Michigan State, they go after the ball on the offensive
• 28:32
  boards. Take us in a little bit to that
• 28:34
  conversation. And do you think it is something
• 28:36
  that they have really identified, Hey, we're looking
• 28:38
  to do something a little bit different.
• 28:40
  It is that crash in the glass offensively.
• 28:43
  I think it also helps with the production and the type of
• 28:46
  season that Blake Buchanan has had early and in the season when
• 28:49
  you saw Iowa State dominating on the board and really cashing in
• 28:52
  those paint points and those second chance opportunities, the
• 28:55
  Saint John's game definitely sticks out.
• 28:57
  But when you're doing that early non con, you are curious, is
• 29:01
  this going to carry over in the later parts of the season?
• 29:03
  Is this not just the beginning or a blip?
• 29:06
  Is this more of a long term trend?
• 29:08
  And I think it's been impressive to see Iowa State really
• 29:10
  emphasize the offensive glass. We know that Joshua Jefferson as
• 29:14
  a big board getter, Nate Heisey as well, Blake Buchanan with his
• 29:17
  defensive versatility and what he provides on the glass has
• 29:21
  been such a huge boost so far. But also the guards will get
• 29:24
  after it too. You see Tame and Lipsy track
• 29:26
  down offensive rebounds. You see Killian Turay get it as
• 29:29
  well. I also think that with Milan
• 29:31
  Munchilovich drawing all that attention when he shoots it
• 29:35
  because teams are sending double teams his way, you actually get
• 29:38
  a four on three situation for Iowa State to capitalize on the
• 29:42
  glass and and potentially get the advantage on getting another
• 29:44
  offensive rebound. But it's definitely been a a
• 29:47
  big, big point of emphasis for Iowa State this year and it's
• 29:50
  it's been a huge part of their success.
• 29:53
  Yesafu is a terrific player. Likewise Carr did.
• 29:57
  Did TJ mention any of those two impactful players for for the
• 30:01
  Bears in his press conference to see this week?
• 30:04
  If so, what did he have to say about particularly the freshman?
• 30:06
  Yesafu is having a terrific year and had a huge game against
• 30:10
  Colorado last time out. What about those two?
• 30:12
  Carr, Yesafu. Yeah, both of those guys are
• 30:15
  just dynamic players. They're projected first round
• 30:18
  draft picks for the NBA. And despite Baylor's struggles
• 30:22
  and despite Baylor's overall team just walls through Big 12
• 30:27
  play, those guys have been consistent performers.
• 30:30
  They're definitely the strength of the Baylor roster.
• 30:32
  You look at a guy like Car, he's very explosive.
• 30:34
  He's got a 7 foot 2 wingspan. He gets after it on both ends of
• 30:38
  the court. And then yes, if we like you
• 30:39
  mentioned, 6 foot five, 215 LB freshman plays bigger than the
• 30:44
  than his actual size. Just has such a high motor,
• 30:47
  really aggressive on both ends of the floor.
• 30:49
  Both those guys have been electric.
• 30:51
  I know that there hasn't really been much consistency outside of
• 30:54
  them. The point guard play hasn't been
• 30:56
  great this year. The front court has been OK, but
• 30:58
  those two are are most definitely the focal points of
• 31:01
  the Bears offense and defense. Starting tomorrow, it'll be four
• 31:05
  games over 9 days after this mini break in the middle here
• 31:08
  after not playing since Sunday. Team ready for it.
• 31:11
  I mean, it feels like everything's kind of clicking,
• 31:14
  everything's good to go. Any concerns here as things are
• 31:17
  going to tighten up? And certainly it's going to ramp
• 31:19
  up in terms of talent. The teams are going to play.
• 31:22
  Yeah, you go from this quote UN quote bye week to now getting 3A
• 31:26
  week after especially playing two games a week for the first
• 31:30
  month of conference play. I think it's one of those where
• 31:33
  it's, you know, bring it on. There's a lot of loaded matchups
• 31:36
  coming down the stretch here. 5 top 15 teams over these last
• 31:40
  nine games. This is where we get to see, you
• 31:42
  know, how the Big 12 is going to shake out before the postseason.
• 31:46
  And with all these high caliber matchups and there's all these
• 31:49
  marquee games coming up, you can only get excited.
• 31:51
  I think they're ready. They're excited.
• 31:53
  They're not going to look past Baylor, TCU, but once it starts
• 31:57
  with this on Valentine's Day, then Houston and all after that,
• 32:00
  I mean, whether you're a player, coach, fan, spectator, you got
• 32:04
  to be excited for it. Yeah, Valentine's Day, a week
• 32:06
  from Saturday, just going to be or no, two weeks, right?
• 32:08
  One week. One week from Saturday.
• 32:10
  One week away. Unbelievable.
• 32:12
  Eugene, thanks for jumping on. Appreciate it.
• 32:14
  As always. We'll read you as we always do.
• 32:16
  desmoinesregister.com. You and Travis Hines have Iowa
• 32:19
  State covered soup to nuts. Good stuff.
• 32:21
  Thanks for jumping on. Appreciate it.
• 32:22
  Eugene. Repay.
• 32:23
  We'll talk to you next week. See you bud.
• 32:25
  Thank you guys so much, enjoying the Super.
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  Bowl Yes, Sir. Who's you?
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• 32:30
  Darn it, he likes the tie, all right?
• 32:32
  First half tie +9. 50 I don't think they'll let it in that.
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• 32:37
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  Miller and Condon on the Iowa sports Radio Network.
• 33:38
  Hi Miller, Condon, welcome back. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
• 33:41
  Network coming up an hour number two, Tom Cacert on Iowa, Mike
• 33:45
  Palm, VP of operations at Circus sports at 1:30 go behind the
• 33:49
  counter, get some of the latest numbers from a betting
• 33:52
  perspective with Mike Palm. We'll make our picks for the
• 33:54
  final time this year's our season long contest comes to a
• 33:58
  close with the Super Bowl. Butch, Adam, Wade and Devin I'll
• 34:02
  tell you all four of you at this time that the tie break you can
• 34:06
  give this some thought. Drake May Sam Darnold combine
• 34:09
  passing yards combine passing yards closest without going over
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  the chicken coop. There are three locations on
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  Oral Labor Rd. just on the southwest of the DMAC campus,
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  60th and Ashworth in West Des Moines and 12725 Meredith Drive
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  in Urbandale. Butch is up first.
• 34:31
  Hello Butch, how are you? I'm.
• 34:35
  Fine. Good.
• 34:37
  I might have some phone issues here, Butch.
• 34:40
  There you go. Seattle's a 4 1/2 point favorite
• 34:42
  over the Patriots. Seattle Iowa State a 14 1/2
• 34:48
  point favorite over Baylor Baylor Iowa is a 12 1/2 point
• 34:54
  favorite over Northwestern on Sunday.
• 34:59
  Tonight, Illinois State gives Drake 9 1/2 points.
• 35:03
  Illinois State 9 1/2 Drake. All right, tiebreaker May
• 35:12
  Darnold combined passing yards closest without going over 380.
• 35:18
  Thanks, Butch. Enjoy the games.
• 35:20
  Appreciate it. Bohawks.
• 35:22
  There you go. Here comes Adam.
• 35:24
  Hello, Adam. How are you?
• 35:26
  I'm. Good.
• 35:27
  How are you, Sir? Good, thanks.
• 35:28
  Seattle's a 4 1/2 point favorite in the Super Bowl.
• 35:33
  Seattle, Iowa State's 14 1/2 to Baylor tomorrow.
• 35:38
  Iowa State. Iowa gives 12 1/2 to
• 35:41
  Northwestern Iowa. Illinois State is a 9 1/2 point
• 35:48
  favorite over Drake tonight. Yeah, Drake, Drake May Sam
• 35:53
  Darnold passing yards combined closes without going over.
• 35:58
  About 3 1/4. Three and 1/4.
• 36:00
  Thanks Adam, enjoy the game. Thank you.
• 36:02
  You too. Yeah, Appreciate it.
• 36:04
  Hello, Wade. Wade, is that you?
• 36:07
  Gentlemen, happy Friday. Happy Friday indeed.
• 36:10
  Seattle's a 4 1/2 point favorite in the Super Bowl.
• 36:15
  Seahawks. Clones give 14 1/2 to Baylor on
• 36:19
  Saturday. That's a lot of point.
• 36:23
  Got to go, Baylor. All right, Iowa 12 1/2 to
• 36:25
  Northwestern. Gohawks.
• 36:28
  Illinois 9 1/2 versus Drake tonight.
• 36:32
  Illinois State. Yep, goat Bulldogs all.
• 36:35
  Right. May Darnold combine passing
• 36:37
  yards closest without going overweight?
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  400. 4 hundo on the button. Thanks, Wade.
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  Appreciate it. And Devin is our final
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  contestant. Hi, Devin.
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  I'll be doing happy Super Bowl Friday.
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  Happy Super Bowl Friday, right back at you, Seattle. 4 1/2 to
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  New England. I'll take the Seahawks clones 14
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  1/2 to Baylor. I'm going to wait.
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  Give me Baylor. All right, Iowa 12 1/2 point
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  favorite over Northwestern. Give me Iowa.
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  All right, Illinois State, a 9 1/2 point favorite tonight over
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  Drake. Take my dogs, May Darnell
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  combined passing yards closest without going over.
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  That's the tiebreaker. Let's do 357.
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  Thanks, Devin. Enjoy the games.
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  Thank you. Thank you.
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  Appreciate it. Appreciate the chicken coop
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  again. Three locations in central Iowa.
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  Well, consensus. We have breaking news.
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  Uh oh. For the first time in giveaway
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  history, we not have just one consensus or two consensus for
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  the first time in us being together for what, almost a
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  decade now? Oh.
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  Yeah, yeah. We have 3 consecutive consensus.
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  Choices, So the tiebreaker is probably going to come into
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  play. I have a feeling now if Iowa
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  State covers, Adam has won this thing, that's all it takes
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  because he's the only one that picked Iowa State.
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  We have never had anything close to this in.
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  We do it probably 45 * a year. 450 times we've done this
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  contest and never before have we had this on the final football
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  Friday of your career, really. Yeah, I know.
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  Weird, right? Final one and we have this.
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  So it comes down to Iowa State, Baylor Adam wins.
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  That's really sinking in, by the way.
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  And it's gross. I had that thought coming in
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  today and I hated it. Absolutely hated it.
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  So historically, our listeners are wrong.
• 38:42
  Yes, normally. So Adam's home free.
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  Adam should feel really, really good about the.
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  Chicken coop website. Download the menu and start
• 38:50
  figuring out what you're going. To have absolutely you're
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  really, really good and how about this Adam, he can just
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  hedge on it now, right? He just put some bucks down and
• 38:58
  he can pay for his either $50.00 gift certificate or his 20
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  wings. He can do that right now.
• 39:03
  Adam's home free because of the way that this would play that
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  that's. Wild.
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  The number's a little bit low in passing yards from everybody,
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  too. So what what?
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  What is it prop wise? It's a good question.
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  I included I I I put 3 together for our TV show.
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  Henderson over a cat or over half a catch over 2 1/2 yards
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  reception and Darnell under 300. Under 300, under 300.
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  So was that the number that was set?
• 39:29
  No, couldn't have been, right. Yeah, that had to be an alt.
• 39:32
  Yeah, number that is out there. All right, so we jump on Super
• 39:35
  Bowl. Well, the good thing is, you
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  know, there's not very many. Problems, so you should be able
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  to get these right away real quick.
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  The over under for Darnold is 232 and for May is 2/24.
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  All right. So that is 456 when you combine
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  them together. So yeah, a little touch low by.
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  And our high, our high point was 400. 400 by weight, Yeah, went
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  right on the dumper. Well, good luck to all of you
• 40:00
  and Adam just root for I was state was he was he a go Hawks
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  guy? I.
• 40:05
  Think he might have been? That might sting.
• 40:06
  Then he has to do. That so if you believe in fading
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  our listeners, which historically is about 75% when
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  we have consensus. It's a pretty good trend.
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  That means you're on the Patriots, means you're on
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  Northwestern, and that means you're on Illinois State.
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  Yeah, those are the three that are going to be jumping a board.
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  Out of that group, I think I feel best about the Patriots.
• 40:27
  You do you like the Patriots? Don't I like the defense?
• 40:31
  Yeah, I do too. I like the defense a lot and
• 40:36
  starts to get a little tight. See him Darnold tight around the
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  corner. You have seen that.
• 40:41
  He still had the league in turnovers this year and it and
• 40:44
  it wasn't just interceptions, it was the fumbles that he also had
• 40:46
  this season. How about those prediction
• 40:49
  markets and what, what do they call it?
• 40:51
  The the phrase or the? You can bet on Chris
• 40:55
  Collinsworth if you'll bring up seeing ghosts, if you'll say the
• 40:59
  word seeing ghost at some point. So apparently.
• 41:02
  I think did we talk about. This early in the week at the
• 41:03
  Grammys, whoever hosted it was came out and said Trevor Noah.
• 41:07
  Yeah, Trevor Noah came out and said something about bananas.
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  And if you had bananas in the prediction market, Yep.
• 41:12
  Well, there. And bananas wasn't a word.
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  But it's just wild. These things, I don't know how
• 41:17
  they're legal, but they are, I guess.
• 41:19
  For the time being. Tom Caker will join us to kick
• 41:22
  off the second hour of the program.
• 41:24
  Mike Palm will join us in our final picks for Super Bowl
• 41:28
  Sunday. That's to come Miller and Condon
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  on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.