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Speaker 1: A lot of the fundamental principles of red lation, self
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Speaker 1: interesting and an individual loss. This is the show, Oh right, everybody,
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Speaker 1: welcome to your one book show. And this, uh, I
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Speaker 1: don't know what is it? Saturday, June tenth. I hope
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Speaker 1: everybody is having a good weekend, having a good weekend,
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Speaker 1: all right, So, uh, Saturday is is? Is not a
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Speaker 1: new show? And typically unless there's breaking news, and the
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Speaker 1: reality is there is no breaking news. But I am fixated,
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Speaker 1: and it seems like they could be breaking news any
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Speaker 1: any moment now, and it seems like history is happening
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Speaker 1: before our eyes. And so I wanted just to keep
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Speaker 1: you in the loop and get you updated and just
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Speaker 1: mention again if anything really happens, If anything anything happens,
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Speaker 1: you know, dramatically, then I will go live and report
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Speaker 1: on it. But I feel like this is such a
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Speaker 1: it has such civilization of cultural political significance, that I
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Speaker 1: want to just keep you in the loop. It does
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Speaker 1: look like today demonstrations are just as large, if not
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Speaker 1: larger than previous days. People out in the streets in
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Speaker 1: spite of the extreme violence that could yesterday, and how
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Speaker 1: to tell how many people were killed? Anything varying from
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Speaker 1: fifty to several hundreds of people killed yesterday. Also, it's
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Speaker 1: hard to get any reports out of the smallest cities,
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Speaker 1: smaller towns in Iran because of the internet blackout. We
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Speaker 1: can get some stallink connections, but primarily from the major cities.
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Speaker 1: The regime is doing everything it can to have a
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Speaker 1: blackout and not to provide internal communication between people organizing
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Speaker 1: these demonstrations and also have no contact with the outside world.
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Speaker 1: That is their attempt thanks to stalling satellite and ellen Musk.
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Speaker 1: The reality is that reports are leaking out and reports
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Speaker 1: are getting through, and it seems like we've got another
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Speaker 1: massive day or evening of demonstrations. The son of the Shaw,
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Speaker 1: you know, asked the Uranian people to go out into
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Speaker 1: the streets now and start occupying territory in the sense,
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Speaker 1: occupying centers of gravity within the cities, and it really
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Speaker 1: does look like that is happening again. The regime buildings
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Speaker 1: are burning and UH and the demonstrations seem to be
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Speaker 1: getting more aggressive, seem to be getting more aggressive against
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Speaker 1: from what we can see on the from the from
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Speaker 1: from here UH. The the regime has now asked the
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Speaker 1: army to help suppress the demonstrations which is interesting because
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Speaker 1: typically the army is not involved. The regular army is
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Speaker 1: dedicated for external threats, and it is the Islamic Republican
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Speaker 1: God and other kind of elements, internal elements, internal security
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Speaker 1: elements that are usually responsible for, you know, for dealing
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Speaker 1: with the demonstrations. I think the size of the demonstrations,
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Speaker 1: the scope of them, the fact that they're happening in
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Speaker 1: over one hundred different locations around the country has made
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Speaker 1: it such that the regime just can't cope and it's
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Speaker 1: bringing out the armed forces. Now this is an opportunity,
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Speaker 1: I think for the armed forces, or for units within
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Speaker 1: the armed forces to actually break away, you know, not
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Speaker 1: follow orders and maybe even side with the demonstrators. There's
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Speaker 1: some indications that one of the problems that the regime
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Speaker 1: is having is that the Islamic Revolutionary God elements within
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Speaker 1: the Islamic Revolutionary Gods are not following orders and are
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Speaker 1: not suppressing the demonstrations as violently as the mulas would
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Speaker 1: like them repressed. So, you know, we are again how
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Speaker 1: to tell exactly what's going to happen and how to
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Speaker 1: tell what these what the new military units are actually
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Speaker 1: going to do. Will find out over time. But they
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Speaker 1: out into streets out across the country, supposedly trying to
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Speaker 1: help the Islamic Revolutionary God suppress these demonstrations. In the meantime,
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Speaker 1: Trump has reaffirmed his position that he wants to help.
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Speaker 1: He wants to help the Uranians. His latest tweet is
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Speaker 1: ran is looking at freedom. Perhaps like never before, the
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Speaker 1: US a stands ready to help. There is again, according
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Speaker 1: to all the social design reading, massive deployment of US
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Speaker 1: assets into the Middle East, special Forces teams but primarily
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Speaker 1: air Force. There are two aircraft carriers in the region.
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Speaker 1: They could easily launch F thirty five's and F eighteen's.
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Speaker 1: So the US has refueling tankers now in Europe and
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Speaker 1: many of those have now flown to Kato into Saudi Arabia.
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Speaker 1: The EFS basis that the US has in those two countries.
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Speaker 1: What else you know, what else? Uh uh is happening?
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Speaker 1: So they have the assets, they have the military assets
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Speaker 1: to inflict significant harm to the Ranians. I mean they
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Speaker 1: could blow up the entire you know, in the entire
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Speaker 1: country if they wanted to. But sif significant harm. Supposedly
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Speaker 1: according to wall Sted General Report, now I haven't seen
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Speaker 1: the wall steedt General report. I've looked for it. I
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Speaker 1: can't find it, but I'm seeing a number of you
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Speaker 1: know what have been in the past, reliable sources say
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Speaker 1: that this is some wall Seat general report, so it
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Speaker 1: is second handed, third handed whatever. Uh. And they're saying
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Speaker 1: that the Trumpet New Station. Officials within the Trumpet New
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Speaker 1: Station have held preliminary discussions on potential options for an
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Speaker 1: attack on Iran should it become necessary again asset the
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Speaker 1: same place, they could do it, they could do it immediately.
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Speaker 1: So still waiting to see whether that will be that
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Speaker 1: will be used. It looks like in Tehran the Islamic
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Speaker 1: Republic have turned off all the public lighting, all street lamps,
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Speaker 1: and they've deployed the military and drones on top of
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Speaker 1: the crowd. In Iran, people are using phones to create
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Speaker 1: lighting for one another as they demonstrate. And yeah, you
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Speaker 1: know again, I don't know, I don't know they are trying.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's you know, the Ranians in twenty nineteen
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Speaker 1: killed over fifteen hundred people. That was under Trump's first term,
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Speaker 1: and during Obama much to it, killed hundreds, if not
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Speaker 1: thousands of people, And there's a real risk that they
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Speaker 1: will try to do it again. The Iranian Nobel Prize.
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Speaker 1: Latter it she run a body warned that the authorities
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Speaker 1: Intoehran can carry out mass killing under cover of a
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Speaker 1: sweeping communication blackout, and they urged Western She's urging Western
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Speaker 1: government to speak out immediately. Quote tonight, I'm compelled to
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Speaker 1: speak with urgency. There are credible indications of the Islamic
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Speaker 1: Republic may attempt, may attempt to turn this night into
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Speaker 1: a massacre under cover of a sweeping communication blackouts, including
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Speaker 1: no lights, and Uranians have come into the streets peacefully,
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Speaker 1: they've been met with gunfire. A blackout is not a
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Speaker 1: technical failure in Iran. It is a tactic. So you know,
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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens, but we
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Speaker 1: know what can happen, we know what the potential is.
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Speaker 1: And now the question really becomes in the hours days
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Speaker 1: to come, is Trump going to respond? Is he going
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Speaker 1: to do anything? If he does, how forcefully is he
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Speaker 1: going to do it? The Israelis are worried because indications
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Speaker 1: are the the Iranian missile program, the ballistic missile program
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Speaker 1: is back to full strength, the strength that it had
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Speaker 1: before the war uh and that Israel will get very
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Speaker 1: little notice. If they launch against against Israel, the supposedly
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Speaker 1: these missiles, the new missiles that they've just that they
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Speaker 1: they've now put in place solid fuel missiles that can
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Speaker 1: be launched much faster than liquid fuel that that were
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Speaker 1: destroyed last time. Is will get very little, you know,
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Speaker 1: advanced warning Israel on UH standby and UH. It's likely
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Speaker 1: that if the United States or anybody attacks the Ranian
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Speaker 1: regime that they will launch against Israel, and they could
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Speaker 1: launch everything all at once, which could bring about mass
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Speaker 1: casualties in Israel. Of course, it would be the end
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Speaker 1: I think of the regime if they did that, but
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Speaker 1: it might be a final, desperate a desperate effort, so
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Speaker 1: waiting to be seen again. There are rumors that Hamany
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Speaker 1: isn't hiding in the eastern part of the country. There
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Speaker 1: are rumors that regime officials are leaving the country. Plenty
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Speaker 1: of rumors. Now. The question is you know what next?
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Speaker 1: And can anything happen? Can can I the revolution actually
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Speaker 1: be successful without the United States or Israel intervening. It
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Speaker 1: cannot be successful without the military turning against the regime.
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. How does this play out? But
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Speaker 1: does feel like seem like this is it's getting close.
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Speaker 1: It does feel like it's getting close. And probably the
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Speaker 1: decisive time in terms of whether the regime survives or
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Speaker 1: not is in the next few days, maybe in the
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Speaker 1: next few hours, but certainly in the next few days.
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Speaker 1: So let's hope the decision makers make the right decisions
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Speaker 1: and we get this over with. We get this over with.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, as you know, I completely one hundred percent
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Speaker 1: support an American strike to defeat this regime. I don't
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Speaker 1: support like an American pinpricking insignificant. You know, let's not
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Speaker 1: upset too many people. Strike. If you do this, do
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Speaker 1: it right, do it decisively, do toverwhelmingly kill how many
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Speaker 1: you know, Bomb the site of the of the Islamist Parliament,
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Speaker 1: you know, destroy as many of the mulahs as possible,
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Speaker 1: you know, make it clear that this is regime change,
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Speaker 1: that this is from the are it is regime change.
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Speaker 1: You know. Take out the Islamic Revolutionary Guard and whatever
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Speaker 1: assets they have that are holding back the demonstrators, and
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Speaker 1: let the people, you know, flood into these into the
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Speaker 1: government buildings. So destroy the agents of the regime to
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Speaker 1: the extent that you can. So I am all in
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Speaker 1: favor of that. I mean in favor of that since
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine, when on November fourth, nineteen seventy nine,
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Speaker 1: the regime took took the America and the American embassy hostage,
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Speaker 1: held those hostages. What was it for four hundred days
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Speaker 1: until the inauguration of Ronald Reagan who kind of deal
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Speaker 1: with them? And that weakness that America represented both by
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter and by Reagan and not dealing with them
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Speaker 1: then has led to all the evil that this regime
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Speaker 1: is perpetrated on the world over the last forty east
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Speaker 1: what is it forty seven years? Is it forty seven? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: forty seven years. Well, in November it'll be forty seven years,
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Speaker 1: forty six in a bit, yeah, CNN Rob says. CNN
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Speaker 1: reports at a Pea revolutionary flag was raised at the
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Speaker 1: Ranian embassy in London. Yes, there's a massive demonstration outside
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Speaker 1: the Ranian Embassy in London, or at least I think
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Speaker 1: it's massive. There's a demonstration anyway, and one of the
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Speaker 1: demonstrators climbed up to the balcony of the embassy tore
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Speaker 1: down the Islamic Republic flag and put up the put
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Speaker 1: up the pre revolutionary flag or held it up. Now,
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Speaker 1: that is not the embassy doing it. It is not
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Speaker 1: embassy officials doing it. It is the demonstrators doing it.
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Speaker 1: So it's a little misleading to say that it was
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Speaker 1: raised at it well acts, but not by the Iranian
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Speaker 1: embassy in London, So that is happening. The embassy personnel
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Speaker 1: did not seem to stop him. They didn't seem to
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Speaker 1: be a rush of security guards out there to knock
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Speaker 1: him down, which I'm not sure what suggests maybe they
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Speaker 1: were taken by surprise. But I did see video of
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Speaker 1: that happening I think earlier, earlier today. But overall, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we're just in a wait and see, wait and see. Uh.
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Speaker 1: You know, everybody's reporting on this. Trump administration has had
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Speaker 1: preliminary discussions. They were put from the Wall Seat Journal,
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Speaker 1: but he's citing in the Wall Seat Journal, and I
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Speaker 1: still haven't found it on the Wall Street Journal website.
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Speaker 1: According to who Israeli Estimates, Okay, this is interesting. I
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Speaker 1: meet Segal, who I told you about when we were
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Speaker 1: discussing Israel. He's a commentator on News twelve on Israeli
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Speaker 1: television news. I meet Segal, who's a pretty reliable source
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Speaker 1: vis the v the Israeli government. He is saying that
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Speaker 1: Israel estimates that Israeli government is estimating that Trump is
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Speaker 1: going to deliver on his threat to attack Iran. So
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Speaker 1: expect and an attack, an attack in Iran, according to
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Speaker 1: the Israelis, they are expecting it to happen. I don't
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Speaker 1: know when, but the sooner the better, The sooner the better. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Here is more of this Wall Street Journal article. One
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Speaker 1: opinion being discussed is a large scale aerial strike on
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Speaker 1: multiple Iranian military talk gets, one of the officials said.
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Speaker 1: Another the official said there wasn't a consensus on what
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Speaker 1: course of action to take, and no military equipment or
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Speaker 1: personnel had been moved in preparation for a strike. That's
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Speaker 1: interesting because of the sources are reporting that they have.
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Speaker 1: Officials cautioned these conversations are part of normal planning and
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Speaker 1: no sign of an imminent attack on EMUN. So again,
16:23
Speaker 1: people are reading too much into this. Officials had discussions
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Speaker 1: and uh, you know yep, yeah, so nothing really new,
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Speaker 1: nothing really new. It's still the case that we don't
16:51
Speaker 1: know what Trump will do and it really is Trump's
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Speaker 1: decision to make. Why is this not it is working? Okay?
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Speaker 1: Anything anything on Iran. Any questions on Iran are not that.
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Speaker 1: That is not it. That is not it. You guys
17:12
Speaker 1: want to talk about ice, I'm not I've talked out
17:14
Speaker 1: about ice. There's nothing more to talk about ice. So
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Speaker 1: I'll answer your questions later. But I really do think
17:22
Speaker 1: I think that Trump right now. You know, I have
17:27
Speaker 1: a very very very very low opinion of Trump. Even
17:31
Speaker 1: if he does something good once in a while, like
17:34
Speaker 1: like bombing the nuclear the Uranian nuclear facilities, I still
17:37
Speaker 1: have a very very low opinion of Trump. And I
17:39
Speaker 1: think I think that this low opinion suggest to me
17:43
Speaker 1: that Trump right now is writing high from kind of
17:46
Speaker 1: a the adrenaline of really commanding the largest, strongest military
17:54
Speaker 1: force in human history. Nothing can match the kind of
17:57
Speaker 1: firepower and and sophistication and technological superiority that the United
18:02
Speaker 1: States has right now. And and I think this is
18:04
Speaker 1: true even of China. And I think I think the
18:07
Speaker 1: Chinese know this. The United States military is unbelievably powerful
18:13
Speaker 1: and and unbelievably efficacious. Uh And in spite of all
18:20
Speaker 1: the problems, in spite of all the downsides, in spite
18:22
Speaker 1: of all the the negatives, and Trump is on a high.
18:25
Speaker 1: He's used it. Now he used a b too to
18:28
Speaker 1: bomb h to bomb you on and and that felt
18:31
Speaker 1: great that that you could tell he was like on
18:33
Speaker 1: a height from that. And then I think this Venezuela
18:37
Speaker 1: attack which went so smoothly without a hitch and and really,
18:41
Speaker 1: you know, showed off American superiority over a Chinese tech
18:46
Speaker 1: and Russian tech and over Qan gods and everything and
18:48
Speaker 1: and uh uh and and you know saw uh the
18:56
Speaker 1: you know, saw the United States military just have this
19:01
Speaker 1: amazing success. I think he's writing high from that right now.
19:05
Speaker 1: And I think he thinks it's cool that he can
19:08
Speaker 1: sit there and press a button and the world blows up.
19:11
Speaker 1: I really think he It feeds his narcissistic psychology, It
19:16
Speaker 1: feeds his power lust. And this this this uh you know,
19:20
Speaker 1: this thuggishness that he has force using military force. Wow,
19:26
Speaker 1: what a high that is. And it is right and
19:28
Speaker 1: it is just just in the perspective somebody who rode
19:31
Speaker 1: in tanks, uh and and got to fire a tank
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Speaker 1: and the machine guns and the sides of the tank
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Speaker 1: and the thing and everything is that my fingertips and
19:40
Speaker 1: that can blow stuff up? And wow, what a power,
19:43
Speaker 1: what a power surge, what an adrellinine and power surge
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Speaker 1: that gives you. It's a little scary even for somebody
19:49
Speaker 1: like me who aphours violence. Wow, all right, you know
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Speaker 1: this isn't my finger terms. This is amazing. Donald Trump
19:58
Speaker 1: has it his fingertips, basically the mightiest military force in
20:02
Speaker 1: human history. And you know, why not use it a
20:06
Speaker 1: little bit more right? Why not play around with it?
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Speaker 1: So would that be surprised? Would I be surprised if
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Speaker 1: you used military force? An you wan? No? Not because
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Speaker 1: I think he sympathized this in particularly with Uranian people
20:23
Speaker 1: or anything else. You know, it's just it's just quite
20:29
Speaker 1: a power trip for him, quite a power trip for him.
20:32
Speaker 1: And again, you know, he might have bad reasons for
20:37
Speaker 1: doing it, but something good, something good could come of it.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm all for the good that could come
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Speaker 1: of it. I'm all for the United States doing doing it,
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Speaker 1: getting out there and taking out this regime again. Should
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Speaker 1: have done it forty seven years ago. Better late than never,
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Speaker 1: And there's never been a better opportunity than right now.
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Speaker 1: All right, I'm just I'm just taking a quick look
21:08
Speaker 1: at your questions. Still don't see anything directly related to
21:11
Speaker 1: you on all right, So what I'm gonna do is
21:15
Speaker 1: I am gonna keep track. I'll keep I'll keep Twitter
21:20
Speaker 1: open to see uh breaking news. Right now, the breaking
21:24
Speaker 1: news is all basically repeating what I've already told you
21:27
Speaker 1: that the post from from Trump and and the was
21:32
Speaker 1: the journal article that really says nothing new, uh and
21:35
Speaker 1: uh and so on. But I will I will stay
21:40
Speaker 1: kind of posted on what's going on. And you're on
21:42
Speaker 1: again potentially the most important event in my lifetime, political,
21:48
Speaker 1: geopolitical event of my lifetime. You know, I think in
21:54
Speaker 1: terms of one event happening. I can't think of it.
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Speaker 1: It's certain equivalent to the fall of the building wall.
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Speaker 1: And when a billion wall fell, I wasn't I didn't
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Speaker 1: have a podcast, I was not in a position to
22:10
Speaker 1: comment on it and to celebrate it and do anything
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Speaker 1: like that. I will be there when this particular wall falls,
22:17
Speaker 1: when this regime falls. I won't be dancing, because dancing
22:21
Speaker 1: is not something that I do, but I will be
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Speaker 1: there to celebrate, to celebrate, allright, Is is this a toola?
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Speaker 1: I can't tell. Okay, I'm in. I'm in, Thank you,
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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. I hope whatever family you might
22:43
Speaker 1: still have, Inyan, I hope they are safe and that
22:47
Speaker 1: they stay safe and for their sake, and I think
22:50
Speaker 1: for all of our sake, I hope this revolution is successful.
22:59
Speaker 1: I have a feeling. I don't know if we have
23:01
Speaker 1: any of our moderators online, but if you guys could
23:05
Speaker 1: watch this book of truth bought, uh, you know, he
23:09
Speaker 1: might have to block him, uh, and please do so
23:13
Speaker 1: if if this, if he continues and he gets out
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Speaker 1: of hand. So thank you amen for two hundred dollars sticker.
23:19
Speaker 1: I really really really appreciate that. Thank you a room
23:23
Speaker 1: for sticker. Thank you CP Milking, James Bond and NASU.
23:28
Speaker 1: And I'm really hoping that James Bond is the real thing.
23:31
Speaker 1: It's the Double O seven, not some fake account called
23:34
Speaker 1: James Bond. Anyway, again, I'm in thank you, thank you
23:37
Speaker 1: really appreciated. And families of anybody out there, if if
23:43
Speaker 1: if you're a family and Iran, you know, uh please
23:48
Speaker 1: uh you know, my my hopes, my thoughts are with
23:52
Speaker 1: you guys. And I really do hope that that the
23:57
Speaker 1: family stay safe. All right. I have blocked him because
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh Mill's Love is there, okay, so
24:04
Speaker 1: miss Love is there. So I blocked him already. But
24:06
Speaker 1: if he comes back in some of the capacity. Please
24:09
Speaker 1: feel fee to block him. You know he is there again?
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Speaker 1: How did he? How does he back when I blocked him?
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Speaker 1: That's weird, miss Love. I'm going to leave it to you,
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Speaker 1: all right, Okay, So today we're going to talk about
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Speaker 1: meaning the meaning of life. But I'm actually going to
24:26
Speaker 1: reverse the order. I want to talk about Evola and
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Speaker 1: Right the Tiger first, and then we'll we'll we'll talk
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Speaker 1: about meaning coming out of that, because really, Right the Tiger,
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Speaker 1: to a logic extent, the book is about Evola's perspective
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Speaker 1: on the meaning of life. Really at heart that that
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Speaker 1: is what it is. That is what it is about.
24:51
Speaker 1: All right, So, uh so I will so we will
24:58
Speaker 1: talk about uh this book now again. This was a
25:02
Speaker 1: request I got from Ali alhaa ha ha lea. I
25:08
Speaker 1: can't really pronounce it, so I apologize Ali. I don't
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Speaker 1: see Ali here, but I have a feeling he'll he'll
25:14
Speaker 1: catch the show. I hope he catches the show later.
25:16
Speaker 1: I did try to let him know that it was
25:18
Speaker 1: that it was happening. Maybe he'll join in a little bit. So,
25:22
Speaker 1: uh so Ali asked me to review this book. I
25:27
Speaker 1: agree to review it. Partially because uh Evoll that comes
25:32
Speaker 1: up quite often when discussing kind of the new right
25:37
Speaker 1: and the influence says on on the on the new right.
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Speaker 1: So I decided to uh to uh you know, read him.
25:49
Speaker 1: I'd read about him, but I never actually read him.
25:52
Speaker 1: And since Ali was willing to pay me to do it,
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Speaker 1: I you know, I decided to do that. So it's
25:58
Speaker 1: just a quick, a quick Who Evola was. I mean,
26:03
Speaker 1: you know, his timeline is eighteen ninety eight to nineteen
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Speaker 1: seventy four, so he lived in the early part in
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Speaker 1: the mid part of the twentieth century, experienced both World
26:12
Speaker 1: War One and World War Two. He you know, he
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Speaker 1: was an Italian philosopher, what they call an esoteric thinker.
26:25
Speaker 1: I think I think esoteric think as a contradiction in terms,
26:28
Speaker 1: but so be it. Poet, cultural critic, you know, somebody
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Speaker 1: who uncompromisingly rejected modernity and defended traditionalism. But traditionalism, as
26:39
Speaker 1: we'll see, as a completely different concept to him than
26:42
Speaker 1: what you typically think. This is Julius Ivola. Yes, and
26:49
Speaker 1: you know, he was a huge advocate of hierarchy in
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Speaker 1: a sense, you know, social hierarchy, hiary between individuals, metaphysic
27:00
Speaker 1: metaphysical hierarchy, that is highary, that is ingrained in who
27:03
Speaker 1: you are and what you are, and certainly one of
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Speaker 1: the most controversial intellectual figures of the twentieth century. You know,
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Speaker 1: he went through He was born in Rome Sicilian aristocratic family.
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Speaker 1: He was educated and engineer, but never completed the degree.
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Speaker 1: He served in the Artillery office in World War One,
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Speaker 1: and then had an existential crisis after World War One,
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Speaker 1: as I think many many, many, many people did. He
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Speaker 1: He was a radical avant garde, part of the radical
27:39
Speaker 1: avant God artists, but ultimately rejected avant god art and
27:44
Speaker 1: turned in the nineteen twenties to philosophy and really primarily
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Speaker 1: Eastern Eastern philosophy. His influences was a guy called Renee Zunan.
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Speaker 1: But Hinduism, Buddhism, Western esoteric traditions, any anything primitive. So
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Speaker 1: when Ivola talks about tradition, which is interesting, right, When
28:09
Speaker 1: Ivola talks about tradition, he doesn't talk about twelve twenty.
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Speaker 1: He's not a tradition in a sense of you know, Christianity,
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Speaker 1: or tradition in a sense of the Western past. When
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Speaker 1: Ivola talks about tradition, he's talking about I don't know
28:29
Speaker 1: a thousand BC, a thousand, five thousand BC. He's talking
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Speaker 1: about or India in ad but he is definitely talking
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Speaker 1: about Eastern tradition, and he's talking about the distant past,
28:43
Speaker 1: not even Eastern tradition today. Okay, I'm told that Gannon
28:50
Speaker 1: is pasted pronounces get none gin on Like, maybe I'm
28:55
Speaker 1: getting it right. Anyway, it doesn't really matter, you know.
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Speaker 1: He so real advocate for Eastern mysticism. Eastern mysticism and
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Speaker 1: uh really rejection rejection of Enlightenment values, rejection of the
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Speaker 1: West as such, rejection of Western Western philosophical tradition, certainly,
29:23
Speaker 1: a rejection of uh, you know, Greek philosophy or most
29:28
Speaker 1: of Greek philosophy certainly a Statilian philosophy is at the
29:31
Speaker 1: heart and the core of Evola's Evola's view, he he
29:39
Speaker 1: was a critic of fascism. Why was he a critic
29:42
Speaker 1: of fascism? Uh, he was a critic of fascism. Remember,
29:45
Speaker 1: fascism is born in in in Italy. He's living through it.
29:51
Speaker 1: Fascism too populist, it cares too much about the masses.
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Speaker 1: It's too focus on the masses. Evola is, you know
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Speaker 1: a believer in a hierarchy of classes. The masses don't matter.
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Speaker 1: What matters are the elites, the aristocrats, the people who
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Speaker 1: stand above the masses. In that sense, he's kind of
30:23
Speaker 1: a super fascist, right, but he viewed Missolini as too
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Speaker 1: populist and too modern, too modern, and too focused on
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Speaker 1: the state. For Vola, it's not about the state. It's
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Speaker 1: about a different type of collective, the collective of spirit,
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Speaker 1: a collective consciousness of the superior beings. He's definitely a
30:52
Speaker 1: kind of platonist. Somebody says he sounds like a platonist.
30:55
Speaker 1: He's definitely a kind of platonist. But I think he'd
30:57
Speaker 1: reject that because I think he view play know as
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Speaker 1: too too rational, too much a man of the mind,
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Speaker 1: and and too political. We'll get to that. He really
31:08
Speaker 1: he advocated a spiritual aristocratic elite, and that spiritual astocratic
31:14
Speaker 1: elite should rule, and people should know their place and
31:19
Speaker 1: part of part of part of I guess being satisfied
31:24
Speaker 1: in life, or is to know your place in life.
31:30
Speaker 1: He rejected kind of the again, the cultivation of of
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Speaker 1: the masses and cultivation and mass nationalism. It was all
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Speaker 1: about that elite. It was all about the people on
31:40
Speaker 1: top the real what he would consider the real aristocrats.
31:46
Speaker 1: And as a consequence, it was not a big fan
31:48
Speaker 1: of Mussolinese regime. He uh uh, you know, but he was.
31:55
Speaker 1: He was a philosopher that I think the regime basically
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Speaker 1: cultivated and used him because what they were advocating was
32:04
Speaker 1: not that different, right, not that different now, he he
32:11
Speaker 1: His view.
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Speaker 2: Of aristocracy is in a metaphysical Yeah, you're born into this,
32:17
Speaker 2: but it's not necessarily hereditary in a sense of bloodlines.
32:21
Speaker 2: His view of asto aristocracy is some kind of aristocracy of
32:25
Speaker 2: the soul.
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Speaker 1: It's people who have some kind of connection, some kind
32:30
Speaker 1: of mystical connection, right. I mean, the problem with mystical
32:33
Speaker 1: philosophy is this impossible to really understand because you need
32:36
Speaker 1: reason to understand, and they don't use reason on purpose,
32:39
Speaker 1: they don't use reason. So it's it's a it's a
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Speaker 1: it's a aristocracy of the soul, but in a soul,
32:45
Speaker 1: in a in a in a mystical sense, and in
32:48
Speaker 1: a soul in a sense of connecting to this other dimension,
32:52
Speaker 1: to the spirit, the spirit world in another dimension, to
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Speaker 1: your past lives and your future lives, and and you know,
32:59
Speaker 1: the whole Eastern mystical. Uh, in mystical nonsense. You know.
33:07
Speaker 1: After one second, Uh, he was pretty I mean World
33:19
Speaker 1: War two I think solidified his his view that he
33:26
Speaker 1: was also a racist, right. She also definitely considered different
33:29
Speaker 1: races have different roles to play different positions. Uh, and
33:34
Speaker 1: racists were not equal, and there was I mean, he
33:37
Speaker 1: was against egalitarianism in everything, in every aspect possible. And
33:41
Speaker 1: you know, but so he's definitely he definitely took a
33:45
Speaker 1: position that was consistent with racism. So both both the
33:50
Speaker 1: fascists and the Nazis used him, right, used him. So
33:55
Speaker 1: while Ivolo was not a Nazi, he didn't never endorsed
33:59
Speaker 1: his his you know, he regarded Nazism as too again,
34:05
Speaker 1: too modern, too materialistic, to biological reductive. He was more
34:10
Speaker 1: about the spiritual stuff, but the spiritual stuff in a
34:13
Speaker 1: completely mystical sense. But the Nazis still loved him, right,
34:17
Speaker 1: They liked him because his emphasis on hierarchy, on authority,
34:22
Speaker 1: his hatred of liberal society, his hatred of modernity, his
34:27
Speaker 1: hatred of capitalism and what they called bourgeois right. But
34:31
Speaker 1: really that's the hatred of capitalism, you know, they they
34:37
Speaker 1: you know, his his advocacy of racialism, identification of race
34:43
Speaker 1: and racist being important. Right, So the Nazis embraced Evola,
34:52
Speaker 1: even if Evola didn't directly embrace the Nazis, just like
34:55
Speaker 1: the fascists of Italy embraced Ivola even though he did
35:00
Speaker 1: not completely embrace them, although his rejection was not was
35:06
Speaker 1: not complete. You know, he if you look at Evola,
35:12
Speaker 1: he admires Roman emperors, he admires medieval warrior kings, he
35:18
Speaker 1: admires sacred ancient rulers. Hitler, you know, he didn't eat them,
35:27
Speaker 1: expressed admiration for Hitler and what he saw in World
35:30
Speaker 1: War two, in the destruction of World War One and
35:32
Speaker 1: World War two, what he really saw was proof for
35:40
Speaker 1: his theory of kind of historical determinism which he gets,
35:47
Speaker 1: i think from from Hinduism and Buddhism. He gets it
35:51
Speaker 1: from Eastern Eastern, uh, you know, mysticism, and that is
35:56
Speaker 1: that there is that there is a pattern to history,
36:00
Speaker 1: and the basically the twentieth century was nihilism and the
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Speaker 1: complete destruction of civilization, and that that in civilization to him,
36:09
Speaker 1: isn't the Enlightenment? Isn't civilization to him? Is this mysticism?
36:14
Speaker 1: So humanity needs to go through this complete destructive period,
36:19
Speaker 1: complete annihilation, complete nihilism, in order to be reborn with
36:26
Speaker 1: the ancient tradition of mystical revelation and mysticism too. You know,
36:34
Speaker 1: meaning the individual meaning in life you can only find,
36:38
Speaker 1: according to Vola, in the transcendental, in the transcendental, in
36:43
Speaker 1: the mystical, in another dimension. This reality means nothing. This
36:47
Speaker 1: reality is insignificant. And indeed, if you live in the
36:51
Speaker 1: twentieth century, you have to accept the fact that the
36:56
Speaker 1: world basically is ending, that the world as we know
36:59
Speaker 1: it is ending, that collapse is inevitable, that politics is futile.
37:06
Speaker 1: You can't save the world, you can't change the world,
37:08
Speaker 1: you can't impact the world. Your job is to survive,
37:14
Speaker 1: to find a way to thrive. But thriving is all internal.
37:20
Speaker 1: You know, to take almost the stoic position about the world,
37:24
Speaker 1: not to be engaged and recognize the fact that this
37:28
Speaker 1: is just a moment of time. You will die, and
37:31
Speaker 1: then there's existence beyond death. According to Evola, right, I
37:35
Speaker 1: mean your whatever, your spirit keeps existing. So again, a
37:40
Speaker 1: real mysticism, a real connection to the other world. And indeed,
37:45
Speaker 1: Right the Tiger is a book that is supposed to
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Speaker 1: be a guide for this great spirit, for this aristocrat
37:54
Speaker 1: of the soul. It's a guide on how to survive
37:59
Speaker 1: the world, how to survive the world around us, how
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Speaker 1: to how to find meaning in spite of the recognition
38:07
Speaker 1: that the world around you is collapsing, being destroyed, and
38:12
Speaker 1: that you can have no impact on it. So you know,
38:16
Speaker 1: he definitely says no politics, politics is is no significance. Uh.
38:25
Speaker 1: And what you need to do is master yourself, master
38:28
Speaker 1: a sense of detachment from this world. Again, like the Stoics,
38:33
Speaker 1: freedom from all compulture. Uh, don't let desire, ideology, identity, anything.
38:39
Speaker 1: You should be able to stand alone. I mean there's
38:41
Speaker 1: a there's a I think a lot of people confuse
38:47
Speaker 1: uh Evola with a sense of individualism because there is
38:51
Speaker 1: a sense of standing alone. Uh yeah, almost like the
38:54
Speaker 1: almost like Nietzsche superman, but standing alone from society. But
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Speaker 1: he's not an individualist because he ultimately believes in a
39:04
Speaker 1: collectivized spirit world, in you belonging to something bigger than yourself,
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Speaker 1: to an external spiritual existence that you, as an individual
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Speaker 1: are meaningless in front of. He explicitly rejects, explicitly rejects
39:21
Speaker 1: individualism now he also claims to reject He also claims
39:26
Speaker 1: to reject collectivism. He rejects the kind of collectivism of
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Speaker 1: the twentieth century, the kind of collectivism that attaches you
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Speaker 1: to other men. His collectivism attaches you to some kind
39:39
Speaker 1: of other world, to some kind of spirit, to some
39:42
Speaker 1: kind of entity or thing or experience beyond you. So
39:48
Speaker 1: it's not in this world his collectivism. But he's not
39:52
Speaker 1: an individualist. I think when you read about him, he's
39:55
Speaker 1: awfully it's often said that he is an individual So
39:58
Speaker 1: I read this book, I read I read, uh right,
40:02
Speaker 1: the Tiger. You know, it's fundamentally unintelligible. It's not intelligible.
40:09
Speaker 1: And the reason is that he's a mystic, and mystics
40:13
Speaker 1: basically unintelligible, and he's a mystic who does in this
40:16
Speaker 1: particular he doesn't explain himself really, he just asserts. He
40:20
Speaker 1: asserts and asserts and asserts that asserts. Now, a lot
40:24
Speaker 1: of it is that he is I guess, assuming you've
40:26
Speaker 1: already bread as other books, so maybe that's part of it.
40:31
Speaker 1: But the book itself, you know, at the end of
40:34
Speaker 1: the day, is I mean, you can get a sense
40:37
Speaker 1: of what he's talking about. But you can't really dive
40:41
Speaker 1: into it, you can't analyze it, you can't really break
40:44
Speaker 1: it down and critique it because there's nothing there. It's
40:47
Speaker 1: like it's like trying to scoop up water. It just
40:50
Speaker 1: flows through your fingers because there's no there there, there's
40:53
Speaker 1: no there's no substance. There's no substance. It doesn't really
41:00
Speaker 1: mean anything, because that's the nature of what does meaning mean?
41:04
Speaker 1: What is meaning? What does meaning get a meaning? Right?
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Speaker 1: You understand something something means something when you can attach
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Speaker 1: it to reality. But Ivola rejects that epistemology completely. Reality
41:18
Speaker 1: is completely reality in terms of physical reality, is completely
41:21
Speaker 1: secondary to your own quote spiritual experience. Now, the reason
41:33
Speaker 1: Evola is relevant is because he really has I think
41:38
Speaker 1: significant impact on elements within the modern right. Now, the
41:42
Speaker 1: modern right doesn't accept him as he is because the
41:46
Speaker 1: modern right. For example, Evola is very critical of Christianity
41:51
Speaker 1: the best parts of the book. By the way, when
41:53
Speaker 1: Whizzy going after Christianity, he goes after Nietzsche, although he
41:56
Speaker 1: has a huge amount of respect for Nietzsche. He goes
41:59
Speaker 1: after the sustain although again he has a lot of
42:01
Speaker 1: respect for the existentialists Nietzsche and the existentialis am more
42:06
Speaker 1: in line with him, but he still rejects them and
42:09
Speaker 1: criticize them, and his critique is not bad. His critique
42:13
Speaker 1: of modern life is not bad, you know, in terms
42:16
Speaker 1: of its pure materialism and all that. But where but
42:21
Speaker 1: it is really influenced today is on. It is on,
42:28
Speaker 1: you know, a kind of thought that I think, if
42:31
Speaker 1: you think about it, starts with or maybe the main
42:35
Speaker 1: proponent of is somebody I've done a show on, and
42:38
Speaker 1: that is Alexander Dugen Dugen, Putin's whisperer, Putin's philosopher that
42:45
Speaker 1: some people claim the man behind Putin, the philosophical mind
42:50
Speaker 1: behind Putin. Dugan is probably the most explicit modern adapter
42:57
Speaker 1: of Vivola. Now, Putin is a Christian, so Putin doesn't,
43:02
Speaker 1: it doesn't embrace Evola's rejection of Christianity, but Putin. But
43:08
Speaker 1: Dugan has a weird interpretation of Christianity that allows that
43:14
Speaker 1: makes it much much more mystical. If you can imagine that,
43:19
Speaker 1: then Catholicism, his orthodoxy is very mystical. And in his worldview,
43:25
Speaker 1: there are multiple forces, you know, spiritual forces out there.
43:30
Speaker 1: Ivola talks about spiritual forces out there, and if you
43:33
Speaker 1: do certain things bad spirits can enter. Maybe this is uh,
43:37
Speaker 1: maybe this is Tucker Carlson's demons. Maybe his demons are
43:40
Speaker 1: these are these forces that that Evola talks about. But anyway,
43:46
Speaker 1: Doan Dougan is hugely influenced by him. Uh. He he
43:50
Speaker 1: uses his ideas and integrates them in with his orthodox
43:55
Speaker 1: mysticism and his geopolitics, and his view of you know,
44:00
Speaker 1: is Russian centric. Russia centric Eurasianism is viewed that Russia
44:05
Speaker 1: should control the world. Russia has still has links to
44:09
Speaker 1: these ancient Eastern mystical religions, right, and Dugan doing celebrates
44:15
Speaker 1: that in spite of the fact he's a Christian. He
44:18
Speaker 1: also celebrates the ancient mystical traditions of ancient Russia and
44:23
Speaker 1: of the various you know, Asian Uh. Uh what is
44:27
Speaker 1: ethnic groups within Russia. So Dugen is a thorough mystic
44:32
Speaker 1: uh and uh, you know, Dugan, like Evola, rejects mass
44:35
Speaker 1: pop politics. Dugan, like Evola, uh, you know, embraces complete authoritarianism.
44:43
Speaker 1: Authoritarianism of a particular type of person. Puts in being
44:47
Speaker 1: a hero to Dougin, and they both talk in terms
44:52
Speaker 1: of this metaphysical kind of world. Dugen is much more
44:55
Speaker 1: of a postmodernist than I think Evola is explicitly a postmodernist.
45:00
Speaker 1: But they hate they both hate the modern world. They
45:03
Speaker 1: both hate the liberal, you know, liberal society. They hate
45:10
Speaker 1: the kind of idea of the you know, all men
45:13
Speaker 1: a created equal. They hate America. America is a symbol
45:16
Speaker 1: of man's decay. They despise capitalism again because of the
45:22
Speaker 1: opportunities that are given to every man. Uh, this is
45:26
Speaker 1: a they really do believe in dictatorship, dictatorship of the
45:31
Speaker 1: of this of these superior beings over the rest of us,
45:35
Speaker 1: the superior beings like in Plato, who have access to
45:39
Speaker 1: the truth, the truth that lies in some mystical dimension
45:43
Speaker 1: that only they have, only they have access to. So yep,
45:54
Speaker 1: that is so. That's Dugin. Now, if you look at
45:57
Speaker 1: the America, you can think about the people influenced by Dugen,
46:00
Speaker 1: the people influenced by Dugan. I've also talked about Evola,
46:05
Speaker 1: and chief among them would be Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon
46:09
Speaker 1: publicly acknowledges reading and being inspired by Evola. Steve Bannon
46:15
Speaker 1: also believes in the cyclical history. History goes through phases decline, crisis,
46:21
Speaker 1: and something coming out of the crisis. He doesn't agree
46:26
Speaker 1: with Evola because Bannon is engaged in politics, whereas Evola says, no,
46:31
Speaker 1: this is a process that happens. Whether you engage or not,
46:34
Speaker 1: you have no impact on the process. Bannon does believe
46:37
Speaker 1: you have the impact on the process. He's not as spiritual,
46:41
Speaker 1: if you will, He's not as focused on the spiritual world.
46:45
Speaker 1: He's much more focused on the material world. Bannon seeks
46:49
Speaker 1: political leverage. Evola warned against political involvement. But they share
46:58
Speaker 1: kind of historical pessimism and and you know, but Bannon
47:03
Speaker 1: doesn't have that that sense of personal discipline that Evola celebrates.
47:08
Speaker 1: If you think of other people that have influenced by Evola, well,
47:14
Speaker 1: you know, we can go to again somebody who I
47:17
Speaker 1: did a show on years ago, a long time ago,
47:19
Speaker 1: and his influences, uh has been reduced since then. But
47:24
Speaker 1: that that would be somebody like bron Bronze Age provot.
47:27
Speaker 1: Bronze Age Provots, who had a period of time had
47:31
Speaker 1: a lot of influence on elements on the right, and
47:33
Speaker 1: I think has helped shape the modern Ault Right, the
47:37
Speaker 1: modern New Right. He's got there's got a lot of
47:42
Speaker 1: Evolah kind of in him. Kind of and it was
47:47
Speaker 1: aristocratic disdain for most people, a hatred of capitalism, a
47:52
Speaker 1: hatred of call it the middle class, the bourgeois, a
47:57
Speaker 1: celebration of you know, the the Bronze Age, the you
48:03
Speaker 1: know again. Both both harken back to a age before
48:09
Speaker 1: a prehistoric age, an age where men were men. I mean,
48:13
Speaker 1: Ivola is very much about man being men. Uh, he
48:18
Speaker 1: might define a little different than Brod's age perfect, I
48:21
Speaker 1: mean Bronze Age perfect emphasizes the bodybuilding U stuff and
48:26
Speaker 1: and uh kind of physical strength. I don't think Evola,
48:30
Speaker 1: as far as I know, talk much about that. But Ivola,
48:34
Speaker 1: you know, men and women are fundamentally metaphysically different. Uh.
48:40
Speaker 1: Women should know their place. Uh. They have an important
48:43
Speaker 1: role to play, but that role is fundamentally different than
48:48
Speaker 1: the role of you know, the role of the man.
48:58
Speaker 1: You know. He rejects anyway, he rejects. I think they
49:02
Speaker 1: both reject kind of Christian ethics. They both reject Christianity.
49:05
Speaker 1: More broadly, Iola definitely rejects the idea of Christian sacrifice.
49:12
Speaker 1: He rejects the idea of Christian morality around sex, he rejects,
49:17
Speaker 1: He rejects much of Christianity he only embraces that part
49:21
Speaker 1: of Christianity that's mystical. He celebrates the mystical in Christianity,
49:26
Speaker 1: rejecting a lot of the actual claims. So anyway, you know,
49:32
Speaker 1: blond Jay Provot was definitely influenced, Chris Jouvin probably influenced
49:41
Speaker 1: by him. You definitely get the sense of the anti
49:44
Speaker 1: democracy sentiment. Vin is the very influential think within Silicon
49:51
Speaker 1: Valley who has influenced many people and advocates for a monarchy,
49:57
Speaker 1: the country run by a CEO who acts like an
50:01
Speaker 1: authoritarian monarch. Again Kurtis Yovin this elitist, aristocratic view, there
50:11
Speaker 1: are certain men built, created, made to rule, and they
50:16
Speaker 1: are those who need to be ruled. But Yavin doesn't
50:18
Speaker 1: have I don't get the sense this idea of a
50:22
Speaker 1: sense of of deterministic history. I don't know, but I
50:27
Speaker 1: don't get that sense. But they, you know, he hates
50:30
Speaker 1: the modern world, hates the technology. A resentment of that
50:34
Speaker 1: is is you know, is really really uh, you know,
50:40
Speaker 1: common to him. So Ivolla definitely has influence on the right. Again,
50:46
Speaker 1: not on the Christian right, because he's a real critic
50:48
Speaker 1: of Christianity, but I think on the right like like
50:52
Speaker 1: Curtis Chauvin, who's not really Christian, who uses maybe Christianity.
50:55
Speaker 1: I think even Steve Bannon, is he a Christian or
50:58
Speaker 1: does he use it? I certainly Dougin, who has turned
51:02
Speaker 1: Christianity into something even more mystical, more eastern than you know,
51:09
Speaker 1: conventional Christianity and Western Christianity or or Catholicism would embrace.
51:15
Speaker 1: So Ivola is a real force out there now. Again,
51:22
Speaker 1: you know, I read the whole book, and I give
51:26
Speaker 1: you an example. Not once does Ivola mentioned reason. Not once.
51:32
Speaker 1: He's talking about how to live the meaning of life,
51:36
Speaker 1: how to survive as a great soul in a decaying world.
51:40
Speaker 1: Not once does he talk about the mind, rationality. I mean,
51:45
Speaker 1: there's some sections about rationality where he's dismissing modern science
51:48
Speaker 1: and rejecting it. So, you know, again, my assessment of
51:57
Speaker 1: all of this, at the end of the day, mystical nonsense,
52:05
Speaker 1: unanchored to reality, floating abstractions, constantly floating. It's not even abstract,
52:12
Speaker 1: floating mystical abstractions that mean nothing. There's no logic in
52:18
Speaker 1: his arguments. I mean, I don't think he embraces logic,
52:21
Speaker 1: So there's no way to critique it some good observations
52:26
Speaker 1: about the modern world, a good critique of like sixties culture,
52:30
Speaker 1: the cultural lefties, very much anti the hippies, even though
52:33
Speaker 1: there's a sense in which he is kind of a
52:35
Speaker 1: mystical hippie himself. There's a rejection of the materialism, the
52:41
Speaker 1: materialistic view of sex. There's some good criticism Christianity. I
52:47
Speaker 1: get white people would be attracted to that. But nothing positive.
52:55
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not that he doesn't argue for positive things,
52:59
Speaker 1: but nothing, nothing of substance positive, nothing of meaning that
53:04
Speaker 1: is positive. Whatever it is there is that is positive
53:09
Speaker 1: is mystical nasis. So bottom line from reading Right the
53:18
Speaker 1: Tiger is I mean, there is a good question that
53:22
Speaker 1: he poses, right, how do you live in an irrational world?
53:27
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe maybe that's that's what I'll talk
53:32
Speaker 1: about in a minute, But how do you live in
53:34
Speaker 1: a rational irrational world? How do you live in a
53:35
Speaker 1: declining world? How do you live in a world gone crazy,
53:38
Speaker 1: gone man? And I can sympathize because I feel like
53:43
Speaker 1: that's the kind of world we live in right now,
53:46
Speaker 1: world gone man, nuts and a world gone mindless. That's
53:51
Speaker 1: not what he would say, how do you live in that.
53:53
Speaker 1: How do you survive in that? How do you thrive
53:56
Speaker 1: spiritually in a world like that? How do you maintain integrity,
54:00
Speaker 1: maintain your soul? How do you maintain your soul? And
54:08
Speaker 1: that's what it means by writing the tiger, he says, Look,
54:11
Speaker 1: you can't fight the tiger. You will lose. So you
54:15
Speaker 1: can't stop the decline. You can't run away from the tiger.
54:20
Speaker 1: Tiger's faster than you. He will destroy you. The only
54:24
Speaker 1: thing you can do is write him. That is, let
54:29
Speaker 1: whatever's going to happen happen and preserve you own soul.
54:38
Speaker 1: And that's why he is very much about detaching for politics,
54:41
Speaker 1: because detaching for politics, I felt, because being in politics
54:44
Speaker 1: is either trying to control the tiger or running away
54:47
Speaker 1: from it. It's uh, it's yep, yep ah all right,
55:09
Speaker 1: Uh let me just once SA and I need to
55:12
Speaker 1: do something here with a I'm all right, I'm looking
55:22
Speaker 1: to use that Iran so that that is the distractions.
55:24
Speaker 1: I apologize for that. I'm I'm I'm on here just
55:30
Speaker 1: just looking. Instead of that, I'm getting a bunch of crap, Yeah,
55:37
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff on ice, which is more shocking
55:40
Speaker 1: videos about other ice things that are happening instead of
55:44
Speaker 1: instead of youan I'm getting ice, which I don't want
55:46
Speaker 1: to ice. I'm not interested in ice right now, all right.
55:52
Speaker 1: And other than that, all the stories are just a
55:53
Speaker 1: repetition of what I saw before. Yep, he's right. Maybe
56:10
Speaker 1: we'll come back to you on you know, at the
56:13
Speaker 1: end of the segment. So again my summary of right,
56:18
Speaker 1: I don't recommend reading it. I don't think you really
56:20
Speaker 1: get anything out of it unless you're interested kind of
56:23
Speaker 1: historically in the context of kind of the evolution of
56:27
Speaker 1: the right. Nicos who I interviewed mentioned that he had
56:32
Speaker 1: read about you Vola, which makes sense given his interest
56:35
Speaker 1: in fascism and influence on the new right. Is interested
56:38
Speaker 1: on the new right. Evola is clearly an influence on
56:41
Speaker 1: the new right, and you want to understand the arguments.
56:43
Speaker 1: But Evola is a primacy of consciousness, which basically means
56:47
Speaker 1: he's a complete mystic. This world doesn't really matter. When
56:51
Speaker 1: you die, you're not really dead. There's another existence that
56:57
Speaker 1: follows it. Again that the value is some of his
57:01
Speaker 1: criticisms of other movements of what is going on in
57:04
Speaker 1: the world. There's nothing positive that he has to offer.
57:10
Speaker 1: So we've already gone to alis. I'm not going to
57:13
Speaker 1: get into the meaning of life too much, but I
57:15
Speaker 1: do want to comment on this idea of how do
57:18
Speaker 1: you preserve yourself? How do you preserve your spirit, your soul?
57:25
Speaker 1: How do you preserve your values? How do you live?
57:28
Speaker 1: How do you live in a world that Loge extent
57:32
Speaker 1: is seems to be seems to be collapsing around you.
57:36
Speaker 1: And now you know, I hold a philosophy very different
57:41
Speaker 1: than the volas. I hold a philosophy that advocates for
57:44
Speaker 1: reason and the advocates for living in this world, and
57:48
Speaker 1: that there is no other life I can wait around
57:51
Speaker 1: to access. This is it. You have one life to live.
57:56
Speaker 1: There is no afterlife, there is no before life. There
57:59
Speaker 1: is only life. There is only life. So approach has
58:17
Speaker 1: to be very different to the tiger. It also is
58:24
Speaker 1: important to note that the tiger, the culture, the history,
58:30
Speaker 1: the evolution that is going on around us, is not determined.
58:35
Speaker 1: It's not predestined. It doesn't have to happen now. It
58:39
Speaker 1: follows a certain logic, but it doesn't have to. People
58:44
Speaker 1: have free well, people are capable of change, and as
58:48
Speaker 1: things deteriorate, as things get worse, it is not inevitable
58:52
Speaker 1: that they continue to get worse. That does not have
58:55
Speaker 1: to be. So how do you survive. You survive one
59:05
Speaker 1: by recognizing whatever values are in the world, whatever values
59:09
Speaker 1: you can attain in this world. Maybe you can't attain
59:14
Speaker 1: all the values. Maybe you can attain those values, you know,
59:18
Speaker 1: some values that you would want to attain, that you
59:21
Speaker 1: could attain in an ideal world. But the world in
59:26
Speaker 1: which we live is not yet at the point. I
59:28
Speaker 1: think it's pretty far off from the point where no
59:31
Speaker 1: values can be attained. The world in which we live
59:36
Speaker 1: in today is a world where values can be achieved.
59:42
Speaker 1: It is not the case yet that if you face
59:48
Speaker 1: the taiga let's call it the movement of history, the
59:53
Speaker 1: cultural movement against you know, but of course Anyvolis terms,
59:57
Speaker 1: we have to get away from evolus terms, because what
1:00:00
Speaker 1: that even mean the decline of culture. Let's say the
1:00:03
Speaker 1: cultural movement towards nihilism. It's not true that you have
1:00:09
Speaker 1: to be destroyed by it if you stand up to it. Indeed,
1:00:13
Speaker 1: one of the things that are possible to you is
1:00:16
Speaker 1: to save people from it by embracing positive values, creating
1:00:22
Speaker 1: communities in which people are pursuing positive values in the
1:00:26
Speaker 1: face of white Spinn nihilism, and in spite of the
1:00:31
Speaker 1: white Spinn nihilism. That is your goal in a world
1:00:35
Speaker 1: descending into nihilism is not to succumb to it, to
1:00:42
Speaker 1: continue the pursuit of values, to continue the focus on
1:00:47
Speaker 1: your own life, to recommit to reason and rationality, and
1:00:55
Speaker 1: to find ways not to be destroyed by the nihlism
1:01:00
Speaker 1: around you. To find ways to create a you know,
1:01:06
Speaker 1: a community of like minded people that you can enjoy
1:01:10
Speaker 1: and they can pursue these values and reinforce one another
1:01:14
Speaker 1: in pursuit of that values, and try to fight, not
1:01:20
Speaker 1: give up, but try to fight the nihilism that is
1:01:24
Speaker 1: all around. And modernity has given us the tools. And
1:01:31
Speaker 1: I think one of the important differences, well, everything is
1:01:35
Speaker 1: different with Evola, everything, but one of them is he
1:01:38
Speaker 1: rejects modern society, rejects material wealth, he rejects technology, he
1:01:42
Speaker 1: rejects you know, if you want to if you want
1:01:46
Speaker 1: to survive and to fight the nihilism, it's exactly what
1:01:49
Speaker 1: we should be embracing. Embrace the material wealth that we
1:01:55
Speaker 1: have around us, Embrace it as an opportunity to make
1:01:59
Speaker 1: your like Embrace it as an opportunity to live well,
1:02:06
Speaker 1: embrace the technology and understand where it comes from. Again,
1:02:13
Speaker 1: Ivola rejects capitalism, and he rejects the products of capitalism,
1:02:17
Speaker 1: but we embrace the products of capitalism. It means we
1:02:21
Speaker 1: need to embrace capitalism and fight for whatever remnants of
1:02:27
Speaker 1: it still exists. Fight for those remnants and fight for
1:02:31
Speaker 1: its continued expansion and continued growth and meaning. Meaning. We
1:02:45
Speaker 1: live in a world where the nihilists argue that we
1:02:48
Speaker 1: live in a crisis of meaning because they're looking in
1:02:52
Speaker 1: the wrong place. They're all looking for meaning, like Evola
1:02:56
Speaker 1: does in some mysticism, In some experience, one has detached
1:03:03
Speaker 1: from reality, whether that detachment is caused by drugs, whether
1:03:08
Speaker 1: that detachment is caused by meditation, or whether that detachment
1:03:12
Speaker 1: is caused by some spiritual experience, whether that detachment is
1:03:16
Speaker 1: caused by a religious experience. That's where they want you
1:03:20
Speaker 1: to find meaning, or whether that experience. The finding of
1:03:26
Speaker 1: meaning is generated by an external force telling you what
1:03:30
Speaker 1: your meaning is, an authority telling you to march, telling
1:03:35
Speaker 1: you to go achieve this value or that value, instead
1:03:41
Speaker 1: of turning, instead of looking at meaning and saying, okay,
1:03:46
Speaker 1: what is the meaning of life now? If you think
1:03:49
Speaker 1: of meaning as something outside of you that your life
1:03:54
Speaker 1: has to add up to. In terms of something outside
1:03:57
Speaker 1: of you, then life has no meaning. And that's an argument,
1:04:04
Speaker 1: of course of the nihilists. But if you think about
1:04:09
Speaker 1: the fact that you have one life and it's to
1:04:13
Speaker 1: be lived for the purpose of happiness, the meaning is
1:04:19
Speaker 1: not outside. Your life needs to be some up, your
1:04:22
Speaker 1: life needs to integrate, your life needs to come together
1:04:26
Speaker 1: around a meaning. But that meaning is not outside of you.
1:04:30
Speaker 1: That meaning is you. You are the meaning of your life.
1:04:37
Speaker 1: Your life is the meaning of your life. Your flourishing
1:04:46
Speaker 1: is the purpose meaning of your life. There is not
1:04:51
Speaker 1: something outside of you. There is not something that can
1:04:56
Speaker 1: be imposed on you. But there's not something you need
1:04:58
Speaker 1: to live for other than and you. So the meaning
1:05:04
Speaker 1: of life is life. There's nothing beyond it. There's no
1:05:10
Speaker 1: spiritual world, there's no God, there's no collective consciousness. But
1:05:15
Speaker 1: that doesn't leave you with emptiness, as the nihilists claim,
1:05:19
Speaker 1: or is the religionists claim, or is Yvola would claim.
1:05:23
Speaker 1: It doesn't leave you with emptiness. It leaves you with something.
1:05:30
Speaker 1: It leaves you as the most important thing to focus on,
1:05:34
Speaker 1: How do I make my life meaningful by living the
1:05:39
Speaker 1: best life that you can by pursuing values, by integrating values,
1:05:46
Speaker 1: by creating a soul, by creating your character, by making
1:05:49
Speaker 1: yourself great within the context of your own life. You
1:05:57
Speaker 1: are the end. There is no other end. In that sense.
1:06:01
Speaker 1: When you die, the world ends. There is no there's nothing.
1:06:06
Speaker 1: You're it, you were, what mattered, There is nothing beyond.
1:06:14
Speaker 1: It's not emptiness. Once you reject collectivism, it's not emptiness.
1:06:18
Speaker 1: Once you reject God, it's not emptiness. Once you reject
1:06:21
Speaker 1: the supernatural. No, what you should is then you don't
1:06:27
Speaker 1: get clarity, clarity and motivation and excitement, passion around what
1:06:38
Speaker 1: living living for? What for your own flourishing, for your
1:06:49
Speaker 1: own happiness, for yourself, to live the best life you can.
1:06:59
Speaker 1: And I mean to that is not meditation. It's not drugs,
1:07:04
Speaker 1: it's not contemplating the universe. It's not again to be
1:07:07
Speaker 1: found you know out there. The means to that is
1:07:12
Speaker 1: the use of reason. Now, reason is a means to
1:07:16
Speaker 1: observe what's out there, but observe out there, not as
1:07:18
Speaker 1: something floating mystical, but to observe out there in a
1:07:21
Speaker 1: sense of reality. It's no accident that Evola and the
1:07:27
Speaker 1: mystics of all forms and the collectivists and everybody else.
1:07:30
Speaker 1: The one thing they reject is material reality. The one
1:07:33
Speaker 1: thing that they are opposed to is material reality. They
1:07:39
Speaker 1: don't want you to acknowledge value in material reality. But
1:07:47
Speaker 1: the reality is that that's how we survive, that's how
1:07:51
Speaker 1: we live. We live in a material world, and reason
1:07:56
Speaker 1: is that faculty that allows us to identify and ultimately
1:08:00
Speaker 1: allows us to reshape that material world to fit our needs.
1:08:09
Speaker 1: So what is the meaning of life? Your life is
1:08:12
Speaker 1: the meaning of life. Life is the meaning of life.
1:08:15
Speaker 1: Living is the middling of life. A rational, rational life
1:08:21
Speaker 1: dedicated to living in every moment. Every moment needs to
1:08:28
Speaker 1: be lived. You don't get it back, you don't get
1:08:34
Speaker 1: second chances, not really can't rewind. And therefore you should
1:08:39
Speaker 1: be focused on the present, focused on the future, and
1:08:43
Speaker 1: make sure that what you're doing is meaningful, meaningful to
1:08:48
Speaker 1: whom to you, in the context of your life, in
1:08:51
Speaker 1: the context of your happiness. I stuff. You don't know
1:09:01
Speaker 1: what you're talking about now for the first time. So yes,
1:09:08
Speaker 1: there is nothing beyond that. There's nothing more, there's nothing extra.
1:09:13
Speaker 1: There's When people look for other stuff, they get in
1:09:17
Speaker 1: trouble and they lose the connection which is so vital
1:09:24
Speaker 1: to their own life and to the means by achieving it.
1:09:28
Speaker 1: For achieving it, which is reason, is reason. All right,
1:09:38
Speaker 1: let's see that is today's show. Let me just check
1:09:44
Speaker 1: in on a situation in Iran. What's in There's something
1:09:49
Speaker 1: here I wanted to reach you guys. Where is it?
1:09:55
Speaker 1: There's some an article in the Atlantic today. Much like
1:09:57
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union of the nineteen eighties, Islamic Republic has
1:10:00
Speaker 1: mostly lost its convictions. Only a small percentage of its
1:10:05
Speaker 1: insiders remain true believers. The majority are motivated by wealth
1:10:09
Speaker 1: and privilege. One Tehran based political scientist, professor we spoke with,
1:10:14
Speaker 1: put a finer point in this. He said, at the
1:10:17
Speaker 1: beginning of the revolution, the regime was eighty percent ideologues
1:10:20
Speaker 1: and twenty percent Charlatans. Today it's the reverse. I think
1:10:27
Speaker 1: that's part of the reason why there's a good chance
1:10:30
Speaker 1: that they will collapse. Ideologues fight to the death. Charlatans,
1:10:37
Speaker 1: you know, they'd rather go live in Moscow or in
1:10:40
Speaker 1: Paris or something like that. Right, According to the Pentagon
1:10:46
Speaker 1: Pizza index, you know the pizza indexed. It's when at
1:10:50
Speaker 1: the Pentagon they're buying lots of pizza because they're going
1:10:53
Speaker 1: to spend the night, they're not going to go home. Well,
1:10:55
Speaker 1: according to the Pizza Index, Iran's in trouble. Extreme Pizza
1:11:02
Speaker 1: and other shops near the Pentagon are seeing above average traffic.
1:11:07
Speaker 1: The Pentagon Pizza index hit fifty on January second. By
1:11:12
Speaker 1: January third, we'd struck Venezuela and grabbed Maduro. It's supposedly
1:11:17
Speaker 1: the pizza index works every single time. The Department of
1:11:23
Speaker 1: Defense denies it matters, but it seems that, you know,
1:11:27
Speaker 1: some people are convinced it does. I see pizza index
1:11:31
Speaker 1: all over my feed right now, a lot of a
1:11:34
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of talk about it. Let's see
1:11:39
Speaker 1: if there's anything new from Eon itself. That's all pizza index.
1:11:44
Speaker 1: Let's get rid of pizza index. Let's see. Oh this
1:11:53
Speaker 1: is huge if this is true. So one of the
1:11:55
Speaker 1: things the son of the Shaw said to you know,
1:12:05
Speaker 1: the small to the demonstrators before today, was he called
1:12:10
Speaker 1: on the workers in the oil fields to strike. I
1:12:13
Speaker 1: told you yesterday the oil fields A key it's when
1:12:17
Speaker 1: the oil fields went on strike is when the Shaw
1:12:21
Speaker 1: fel and he called on him to strike. Now here's
1:12:25
Speaker 1: a report. I have no idea. If this is a
1:12:28
Speaker 1: too or not, but if it is, this is huge opposition.
1:12:32
Speaker 1: Sources claim labor strikes have been declared in the oil
1:12:36
Speaker 1: sector anyone that was thirty five minutes ago. If that's true,
1:12:42
Speaker 1: then the regime will collapse, all right. Uh it looks
1:13:01
Speaker 1: like I mean more and more newspapers are now writing
1:13:04
Speaker 1: about this. Notice that as things escalate. You know now
1:13:07
Speaker 1: that Washington Post has an opinion piece the Ranian regime
1:13:10
Speaker 1: is caught in a death spiral. That would be great
1:13:14
Speaker 1: if that was the case. Uh. And uh, you know
1:13:18
Speaker 1: we'll see journal's writing about New York Times. I mean
1:13:20
Speaker 1: at the BBC is all over the story now. Uh.
1:13:23
Speaker 1: And you're seeing more and more of this. Uh yeah,
1:13:34
Speaker 1: all right, a lot of stuff happening with Ice this weekend,
1:13:38
Speaker 1: but we'll talk about that on Monday. Huh. All right,
1:13:50
Speaker 1: let's go to your super check questions. I see we
1:13:53
Speaker 1: have quite a few. You guys have been great in
1:13:55
Speaker 1: terms of contributions. Thank you again to all the stick
1:13:59
Speaker 1: of people over them again. In a minute, let me
1:14:05
Speaker 1: just send this, send this note to myself. All right. Uh,
1:14:11
Speaker 1: let's we will keep track of what is going on.
1:14:16
Speaker 1: Let me just do this yeah, I see another source
1:14:32
Speaker 1: saying that strikes have been called in the oil business.
1:14:36
Speaker 1: That is huge. All right, m God, the stuff I'm
1:14:52
Speaker 1: seeing online, I mean, I mean I should just go
1:14:54
Speaker 1: live about just the insanity of the world and in
1:14:58
Speaker 1: this country as we live in it right now. I
1:15:03
Speaker 1: just you know, I'll just give you one example. So
1:15:10
Speaker 1: there's a video clip of Christian nationalist pastor Joe Webbon,
1:15:15
Speaker 1: who is now publicly urging Trump to arrest Minnesota Governor
1:15:19
Speaker 1: Tim Waltz, bring him to d C, put him on
1:15:21
Speaker 1: trial and hang him, saying that it would honor Christ
1:15:26
Speaker 1: and save the country. And you know, this is not
1:15:31
Speaker 1: some marginal guy. This is He's got a big church
1:15:34
Speaker 1: and very very influential on the so called new right,
1:15:38
Speaker 1: so influences are quite quite something. Uh yeah, Jesus Christ
1:15:46
Speaker 1: is right, Jesus help us. But he's doing it in
1:15:49
Speaker 1: the name of Jesus. Yeah, this is the world we
1:15:54
Speaker 1: live in right now. So I don't know, I'd say
1:15:57
Speaker 1: it's you know, we got to fight. I'm not I'm
1:16:01
Speaker 1: rejecting Ivola and saying the fight is on. Can just
1:16:05
Speaker 1: let this happen? The fight is on? All right, Wes,
1:16:10
Speaker 1: Thank you for the stick. I think Wes got us over,
1:16:12
Speaker 1: got us what happened here? What happened? Yeah, Wes got
1:16:19
Speaker 1: us over the I think the seven to fifty mark
1:16:23
Speaker 1: apple Jack. Thank you and uh the dumb Let's see
1:16:30
Speaker 1: who else do I have here? Uh? Loretta, thank you
1:16:38
Speaker 1: and get free? Thank you and amen again. Thank you.
1:16:44
Speaker 1: Amend's two hundred dollars really set the tone for today.
1:16:47
Speaker 1: We're doing fantastic on super Chats, really really good. I mean,
1:16:51
Speaker 1: you guys have been holding back and it's all flooding
1:16:54
Speaker 1: in today. Yeah I haven't really, We've We've had a good week,
1:16:57
Speaker 1: so everything is good, all right. Have you seen I
1:17:04
Speaker 1: just have to say this last thing about Iran and
1:17:06
Speaker 1: then we'll go to your questions. Have you seen these
1:17:09
Speaker 1: these photos and videos online all over online. I've re
1:17:13
Speaker 1: retweeted a few of them, and this has become a
1:17:16
Speaker 1: like a thing in Iran right now. And that is
1:17:20
Speaker 1: Iranian women, young women lighting their cigarette by burning a
1:17:28
Speaker 1: photograph of the Ayatula and using the burning photograph to
1:17:33
Speaker 1: light the cigarette. I mean, and and of course you know,
1:17:40
Speaker 1: no no uh uh, they're not wearing any head covering
1:17:43
Speaker 1: or anything. And it is it is sweet, It is
1:17:47
Speaker 1: really really really amazing to see these young women just
1:17:51
Speaker 1: just defying the authorities, defying the gods, defining, defying the Islamists,
1:17:58
Speaker 1: defying the regime. It is so bad ass. That's exactly right.
1:18:02
Speaker 1: It's badass. These women are amazing and and you can
1:18:06
Speaker 1: find them if you go on Twitter, you can find
1:18:08
Speaker 1: a bunch of these. There's I see somebody's made a
1:18:11
Speaker 1: montage of a bunch of them. It's becoming a thing
1:18:14
Speaker 1: that women are posting all over the place. And they
1:18:16
Speaker 1: managed to get some of these out in spite of
1:18:18
Speaker 1: the the complete shutdown of of the of the internet.
1:18:25
Speaker 1: So yep, yeah, we're seeing okay, this is we're seeing
1:18:38
Speaker 1: live video of Iranian regime forces in and out of
1:18:43
Speaker 1: uniform unloading live ammunition into crowds with no warning. Uh yep,
1:18:49
Speaker 1: seeing that's those are those are shotguns. Some of those
1:18:53
Speaker 1: are shotguns, just shooting you know, ammunition into into the crowd.
1:18:59
Speaker 1: People like ya I shouting, uh yelling to Trump to
1:19:04
Speaker 1: honor his past support for the Ranian people. Uh as
1:19:08
Speaker 1: the as the massacre is happening out there, we'll see
1:19:10
Speaker 1: if anything happens. All right, let us to the super
1:19:20
Speaker 1: chat and h I'm gonna scan the super chat quickly, U,
1:19:24
Speaker 1: just to see if if there is anything related to
1:19:29
Speaker 1: Evola in here, and then we'll just take them by order,
1:19:40
Speaker 1: all right, okay? Uh that yeah, an mus okay, let's
1:20:01
Speaker 1: let's Almos has a few questions related to this. Let
1:20:05
Speaker 1: me let me take those and then uh, and then
1:20:07
Speaker 1: we'll go to all the other questions. Thank you, Alamos
1:20:10
Speaker 1: a bunch of twenty dollars questions. Really appreciate it, said,
1:20:14
Speaker 1: Could you please talk about his Evola's criticism of modern
1:20:18
Speaker 1: world Christianity and Nietzsche. Yes, I mean, I think is
1:20:25
Speaker 1: His criticism of Nietzsche basically goes to the fact that
1:20:30
Speaker 1: Nietzsche doesn't have well well, Nietzsche rejects Christian altruism and
1:20:37
Speaker 1: rejects rejects Christian morality. He also and and rejects the
1:20:42
Speaker 1: Christian God, which I think Evola also does. He doesn't provide,
1:20:51
Speaker 1: according to Evola says, he doesn't really provide an alternative.
1:20:55
Speaker 1: He doesn't provide a from Evola's perspective of spiritual alternative,
1:21:00
Speaker 1: he doesn't provide something to replace God. God is dead.
1:21:03
Speaker 1: Now what nothing unless you're uber mentioned and then you've
1:21:07
Speaker 1: got your own set of kind of moral values. But
1:21:10
Speaker 1: even then it's not really specified. It's a will to power,
1:21:13
Speaker 1: power for what aim, for what purpose, for what to
1:21:16
Speaker 1: achieve what. Evola is still you know, criticizing Nietzsche for
1:21:21
Speaker 1: not basically providing us within with a meaning an out.
1:21:28
Speaker 1: Nietzsche therefore opens the door up de nihilism. God is dead,
1:21:33
Speaker 1: nothing is left, meaning cannot be found in anything. That's
1:21:37
Speaker 1: basically you know, that's basically uh Nietzsche, and and how
1:21:43
Speaker 1: people understand Nietzsche and why Nietzsche is making nihilism possible,
1:21:48
Speaker 1: because then if no values are possible, white pursuit values
1:21:51
Speaker 1: and and and that leads of course to hate and
1:21:55
Speaker 1: the destruction of the world. That's the nihilistic you know, tendency.
1:22:08
Speaker 1: So in that sense, I think he's right about Nietzsche
1:22:18
Speaker 1: being a dead end, a dead end to nihilism, but
1:22:23
Speaker 1: he's wrong about the alternative. His criticism of modern Christianity,
1:22:30
Speaker 1: you know, he thinks Christianity is too matialistic. On the
1:22:33
Speaker 1: one hand, he thinks it's it's too egalitarian, it's too universal. Again,
1:22:42
Speaker 1: he believes people are you know, they're real higherarchys among people,
1:22:47
Speaker 1: and Christianity treats everybody the same. He he criticizes, for example, uh,
1:22:55
Speaker 1: this idea of marriage and uh, you know this this
1:23:00
Speaker 1: this commitment between a man and a woman, and this
1:23:04
Speaker 1: idea of no divorce. And again he's not very intelligible,
1:23:07
Speaker 1: but you get a sense that he says, you know,
1:23:12
Speaker 1: what is this commitment? If you really committed to the other,
1:23:15
Speaker 1: why does that commitment end when you die? Since you
1:23:19
Speaker 1: both continue on. It's all kind of stuff like that.
1:23:22
Speaker 1: So he doesn't like the finality of Christianity. There's like
1:23:25
Speaker 1: one after life. It's all over then, I think for him,
1:23:30
Speaker 1: you know, we're constantly in this flow of maybe reincarnation
1:23:34
Speaker 1: or something like that, or some kind of spiritual constant evolution.
1:23:38
Speaker 1: It's not you end your life and you go to
1:23:41
Speaker 1: heaven or hell and that's it. He doesn't like the
1:23:43
Speaker 1: concept of hell, no concept of judgment, of this an
1:23:48
Speaker 1: entity that judges you. He rejects that, you know. So
1:23:54
Speaker 1: I think he rejects really most of the way Christianity's practiced.
1:24:00
Speaker 1: What he the parts of Christianity he likes is just
1:24:03
Speaker 1: the parts that have to do with the mysticism and
1:24:08
Speaker 1: uh and and uh, you know that the original church hierarchy,
1:24:14
Speaker 1: the idea of a hierarchy within the church, even though
1:24:18
Speaker 1: Christianity is set up as kind of a universal egalitarian uh,
1:24:24
Speaker 1: you know, ideological system. You know that. That would be
1:24:31
Speaker 1: my interpretation of his view of Nietzsche and Christianity, says,
1:24:36
Speaker 1: do you think science sometimes trains us to see the
1:24:38
Speaker 1: world so abstractly that we overlook the beauty of life? No?
1:24:44
Speaker 1: I mean not at all. I don't even know what
1:24:48
Speaker 1: that exactly means, because, first of all, science is thunders
1:24:54
Speaker 1: done right focuses us our attention on the concrete sciences
1:25:02
Speaker 1: done right takes us from the concrete world to the
1:25:07
Speaker 1: abstractions that explain it. Now, it's true that often science
1:25:12
Speaker 1: education not science itself, but science education starts with the
1:25:17
Speaker 1: concretes never really connects it to Sorry, starts with the
1:25:22
Speaker 1: abstractions and never really connects it to the concretes in
1:25:26
Speaker 1: a sense, leaves it leaves the abstractions floating and only
1:25:35
Speaker 1: connects the mathematically. But good science education really connects between,
1:25:49
Speaker 1: you know, really connects between the actual world and the
1:25:54
Speaker 1: abstract explanation of it. And I don't see how the
1:25:57
Speaker 1: explanation makes anything less beautiful. The beauty of life isn't
1:26:02
Speaker 1: understanding it. The beauty of reality isn't understanding it. You know,
1:26:08
Speaker 1: there's nothing beautiful about an unsolvable mystery. I think that's
1:26:14
Speaker 1: again mysticism. Mysticism wants you to believe that there's beauty
1:26:19
Speaker 1: in the in the lack of understanding. No, the opposite.
1:26:23
Speaker 1: So science gives us a tool to know and understand
1:26:28
Speaker 1: reality and see it's beauty. It's not a random pattern.
1:26:35
Speaker 1: There's a logic behind it. There are laws of physics
1:26:38
Speaker 1: that move these things. There's a pattern there is there's,
1:26:42
Speaker 1: you know, something really happening. I'm curious whether this these
1:26:49
Speaker 1: pictures are real? What's the Uh? Yeah, thanks elementent. So
1:26:54
Speaker 1: I think it's exact opposite, right. Science is necessary for
1:26:59
Speaker 1: really a full appreciation of the beauty of reality, the
1:27:03
Speaker 1: beauty of life. Um, why is that in French? Why
1:27:13
Speaker 1: is somebody's asking? Uh, grow something in it? Answers French.
1:27:17
Speaker 1: This video is uploaded today Jenny. According to its metadata,
1:27:20
Speaker 1: it appears to be linked to the original protest in
1:27:23
Speaker 1: ongoing protests in Iran, confirmed by recent reports like BBC.
1:27:29
Speaker 1: You know, I'll just show you this. Let's see if
1:27:33
Speaker 1: I can find this what's said? I'm gonna show you
1:27:36
Speaker 1: this because it'll give you a sense of yep, well
1:27:46
Speaker 1: it's not showing anything, all right. I don't know if
1:27:52
Speaker 1: you can see that. Guys, hopefully you can. I can,
1:27:56
Speaker 1: I can make it larger. But that is of the protesters.
1:28:01
Speaker 1: I mean, this is not just marching in the streets anymore.
1:28:05
Speaker 1: Those are Molotov cocktails that they're throwing, they're setting they're
1:28:09
Speaker 1: setting stuff on fire. And my assumption is those are
1:28:14
Speaker 1: the protesters as far as Grock is concerned. At least,
1:28:19
Speaker 1: this is actual video coming out of Yon. You know,
1:28:22
Speaker 1: I can't verify that beyond what Grock says, but it
1:28:25
Speaker 1: was uploaded today and it seems like it's from Yon.
1:28:29
Speaker 1: So the pictures really do look like a revolution, a
1:28:36
Speaker 1: real revolution. There's violence in the streets, you know. I
1:28:40
Speaker 1: had video from before of regime people shooting everybody. Yeah.
1:28:49
Speaker 1: I see video now of the of the guy who
1:28:52
Speaker 1: put the Ranian flag up on the London embassy. I
1:28:56
Speaker 1: don't see anybody tearing it down. It's up there. Nobody
1:28:59
Speaker 1: from the embassy is rushing out, all right. All right, again,
1:29:17
Speaker 1: there's reports of Romania on the run, how many on
1:29:20
Speaker 1: the run, But that that already happened. Uh uh Uranian, Yeah,
1:29:26
Speaker 1: they said, they said, you know, it's interesting that they're
1:29:28
Speaker 1: setting the setting fight and mosques, the setting fight to masques.
1:29:37
Speaker 1: Would you want to be about to fall if Harris
1:29:39
Speaker 1: had won. I don't think it makes that much difference.
1:29:45
Speaker 1: You know, it really depends on how whether you think
1:29:50
Speaker 1: that Zoe would have engaged in that twelve day war
1:29:53
Speaker 1: if Harris had won. Would would Israel have engaged in
1:29:57
Speaker 1: that war or not? I I think that that made
1:30:01
Speaker 1: more of a difference. But look, Iran is economically in
1:30:05
Speaker 1: the verge of collapse. There's literally no water in Iran.
1:30:09
Speaker 1: The reservoirs have depleted, and they have no backup plan
1:30:13
Speaker 1: and they've mismanaged it all. So people are actually on
1:30:17
Speaker 1: you know, certain hours you can use the water in
1:30:19
Speaker 1: certain hours you can in major cities in Iran. The
1:30:23
Speaker 1: monitor the Iuran's money is collapsing. That has nothing to
1:30:28
Speaker 1: do with That has nothing to do with Harris or Trump.
1:30:32
Speaker 1: That is just Uranian mismanagement and disaster. So I don't
1:30:39
Speaker 1: know if it would have happened, It's certainly it would
1:30:41
Speaker 1: have happened differently. But Iran was going to collapse at
1:30:46
Speaker 1: some point, and look I'll give Trump credit. I don't
1:30:49
Speaker 1: think it's for the right reasons. I don't think it's
1:30:50
Speaker 1: for the right reasons. But yeah, Trump's commentary about coming
1:30:56
Speaker 1: to the help of the Iranian people, no question has
1:30:58
Speaker 1: helped out here. There's no question has made made the
1:31:03
Speaker 1: situation better and motivated them and inspired them and made
1:31:08
Speaker 1: their tool is more fearful, more fearful. All right? Ali
1:31:15
Speaker 1: Musa again says, do you think reason is stronger than faith?
1:31:19
Speaker 1: And why do many people who end their lives seem
1:31:22
Speaker 1: highly rational or reasonable or struggle with mental health issues?
1:31:28
Speaker 1: And why do many people who end their lives seem
1:31:32
Speaker 1: highly rational or reasonable or struggle with melt and health issues?
1:31:35
Speaker 1: Not any religious faith? So do I think reason is
1:31:42
Speaker 1: stronger than faith? I mean, I don't know what you
1:31:45
Speaker 1: mean by stronger. For a lot of people, faith is
1:31:48
Speaker 1: much stronger than reason. But that is that is a
1:31:51
Speaker 1: recipe for for not a good life. For life that
1:31:59
Speaker 1: is is that is not going to flourish. If a
1:32:03
Speaker 1: life that is not successful, Reason is stronger than faith.
1:32:09
Speaker 1: If by stronger you mean relevant to your life, relevant
1:32:13
Speaker 1: to your happiness, relevant to your flourishing and prosperity. Reason
1:32:18
Speaker 1: is the means by which human being survive.
1:32:21
Speaker 3: Faith is a rejection of reason, and if a rejection
1:32:25
Speaker 3: of life, a rejection of the means by which we survive,
1:32:29
Speaker 3: and the means by which we thrive, and the means
1:32:32
Speaker 3: by which we flourish.
1:32:33
Speaker 1: So to the extent that you take faith seriously, to
1:32:36
Speaker 1: the extent that you make reason strong, sorry, faith strong,
1:32:41
Speaker 1: to the extent that you make faith strong, you're killing yourself.
1:32:45
Speaker 1: Not in a sense of suicide immediately, but in a
1:32:49
Speaker 1: sense of a slow death. That is, you're not living
1:32:54
Speaker 1: a full life. You're not living a complete life, You're
1:32:57
Speaker 1: not living to the max. And faith is faith. There's
1:33:06
Speaker 1: no reason for it. It just is. People just embrace it.
1:33:10
Speaker 1: But why Faith can't answer that question? And as human
1:33:19
Speaker 1: beings we should demand an answer to the white question.
1:33:28
Speaker 1: So I believe faith is self destructive. It's self destructive
1:33:30
Speaker 1: on individual it's self destructive on a self destructive on
1:33:34
Speaker 1: a social realm when it is embraced. And the more
1:33:38
Speaker 1: faith you embrace, the less life you have. So the
1:33:42
Speaker 1: faith of you know that the people who are committed
1:33:45
Speaker 1: to faith, the ultra orthodox Jews, the Islamists, the nutty
1:33:52
Speaker 1: Christian monks, that's not a life. It's not a life.
1:34:00
Speaker 1: So faith is the abannonment of reason. Faith is the
1:34:02
Speaker 1: bannon of the wise. Faith is the a bannonment of logic.
1:34:08
Speaker 1: Faith is the negation of all that, and to that extent,
1:34:10
Speaker 1: it is a destructive force. It is an anti life force.
1:34:16
Speaker 1: And in acsence, reason is much more powerful than faith
1:34:18
Speaker 1: because reason is the pro life force. Reason is the
1:34:21
Speaker 1: way to enhance life. It's the way to bring to
1:34:26
Speaker 1: make life possible. It's the means by which human beings survived.
1:34:30
Speaker 1: We can't survive by faith. Faith tells us nothing about
1:34:33
Speaker 1: how to live. You know, how to grow crops, how
1:34:41
Speaker 1: to hunt, how to build a furnace, how to build
1:34:44
Speaker 1: a home. For every one of those things, reason, reason
1:34:52
Speaker 1: must be embraced, must be used, must be engaged. Faith
1:35:01
Speaker 1: is the absence of evidence, the absence of proof, the
1:35:05
Speaker 1: absence of evidence really any kind of evidence, because it's
1:35:10
Speaker 1: some probabilistic it's faith. Alimosa says, based on chaost theory,
1:35:16
Speaker 1: reality cannot be fully defined using abstract mathematical models. We
1:35:20
Speaker 1: train our minds to simplify systems that are far more
1:35:23
Speaker 1: complex in practice. Uh And and this is Ali who
1:35:27
Speaker 1: paid me to review the book. Care theory is wrong,
1:35:33
Speaker 1: and the point of defining reality is not with mathematical models.
1:35:38
Speaker 1: Reason is not mathematical models. You know, uh, this, this
1:35:44
Speaker 1: has coffee inside of it. I don't need a mathematical
1:35:47
Speaker 1: model to know that truth and to use reason to
1:35:52
Speaker 1: know that truth. My eyes, my taste buds, the fact
1:35:56
Speaker 1: that I made the coffee and put it in here,
1:35:58
Speaker 1: that the labeling it came on the process by which
1:36:02
Speaker 1: I know coffee is made. I don't need math to
1:36:04
Speaker 1: do that. Reason is not math. Math is, you know,
1:36:10
Speaker 1: an application of reason for particular use. But you know,
1:36:15
Speaker 1: using reason, rationality, using logic does not mean using mathematics.
1:36:23
Speaker 1: So reality, you know, at the level that we need
1:36:28
Speaker 1: to understand it is available to us through our census.
1:36:31
Speaker 1: Now we don't see we don't see all of reality
1:36:35
Speaker 1: that is true. I can't see the atoms that make
1:36:40
Speaker 1: up the coffee, or that make up the air around me.
1:36:45
Speaker 1: I don't see the oxygen atoms. But I can use
1:36:49
Speaker 1: reason to discover them and to understand how they function
1:36:52
Speaker 1: and understand how they work. And they can use mathematics
1:36:56
Speaker 1: to model some of that. But it's not the mathematics
1:36:59
Speaker 1: the defunt reality. It's the existence of the stuff. You know,
1:37:07
Speaker 1: I know there's oxygen because we understand out biology and
1:37:10
Speaker 1: we understand we can you know, do experiments and we
1:37:14
Speaker 1: can figure out the existence of oxygen and how it's
1:37:16
Speaker 1: used in the body, and when they hal in, it
1:37:19
Speaker 1: goes in, and when a halout it comes out to
1:37:21
Speaker 1: CO two And all these things require very little math.
1:37:26
Speaker 1: They were quite science, they were quite reason, they were
1:37:30
Speaker 1: quite observing reality. And yes, the system around us, we're
1:37:37
Speaker 1: constantly learning more about them because they are complex, and
1:37:41
Speaker 1: there are a lot of forces and a lot we
1:37:42
Speaker 1: don't know. There's a lot we don't understand. But the
1:37:46
Speaker 1: lack of knowledge does not entail faith, because the only
1:37:51
Speaker 1: way to know the things that we don't know is
1:37:53
Speaker 1: through reason. And the reality is we knew a lot
1:37:57
Speaker 1: less one hundred years ago than we know today, and
1:38:01
Speaker 1: we can extrapolate reasonably that we'll know a lot more
1:38:04
Speaker 1: in a hundred years than we do right now. And
1:38:07
Speaker 1: how will we know it not through faith to reason?
1:38:12
Speaker 1: And how do I know that we'll know more in
1:38:14
Speaker 1: a hundred years than we do now, assuming civilization continues.
1:38:17
Speaker 1: Not through faith, not faith in the future, but an
1:38:20
Speaker 1: understanding on how science and reason work. Science provides us
1:38:28
Speaker 1: with ever growing knowledge. Science doesn't diminish reality by explaining it.
1:38:35
Speaker 1: It elevates our understanding of reality, which means it elevates
1:38:41
Speaker 1: us and our relationship with reality. The more I understand reality,
1:38:45
Speaker 1: the more I appreciate it, the more beautiful it is,
1:38:47
Speaker 1: the more interesting it is, and the more I can
1:38:49
Speaker 1: control it, the more I can shape it. And what
1:38:57
Speaker 1: makes us a human beings unique different from all other
1:39:00
Speaker 1: animals out there is the fact that we survive by
1:39:07
Speaker 1: shaping reality in nature. In other words, by shaping nature,
1:39:11
Speaker 1: by changing nature. We don't accept nature as a given.
1:39:15
Speaker 1: We use our reason and our senses and our understanding
1:39:20
Speaker 1: and science and math to understand reality and then we
1:39:24
Speaker 1: reshape it. I mean, I don't think if you took
1:39:29
Speaker 1: cass seriously, how do you create an iPhone? How do
1:39:35
Speaker 1: you how do you how do you explain the coffee?
1:39:39
Speaker 1: We have this amazing control over so much of reality
1:39:42
Speaker 1: and gaining more and more daily. You couldn't understand it
1:39:47
Speaker 1: if you believe that reality was unknowable, that that you know,
1:39:52
Speaker 1: you can never know it and it's too complicated and
1:39:54
Speaker 1: it's too complex and it can't be achieved, and can't
1:39:56
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't get to it. None of that
1:39:58
Speaker 1: is true. So science is beautiful, Reality is beautiful. But
1:40:04
Speaker 1: and and and a means of survival, a way in
1:40:07
Speaker 1: which we thrive is by using a reason and Evola
1:40:11
Speaker 1: and the whole mystical tradition and religion, but mysticism or
1:40:15
Speaker 1: broadly lose the plot but not embracing reason, but not
1:40:20
Speaker 1: understanding the whole reason plays in human survival. And and
1:40:25
Speaker 1: by embracing something that is completely arbitrary, a spirit, a
1:40:31
Speaker 1: spirit world, you have no evidence zero, not an evidence
1:40:36
Speaker 1: of a spirit world. So any I mean, this is
1:40:41
Speaker 1: part of the problem of reading Evola and reading any
1:40:43
Speaker 1: of these mystics generally, is most of what they're arguing
1:40:50
Speaker 1: is the arbitrary. And the arbitrary has no cognitive meaning.
1:40:58
Speaker 1: It's not true, but it's a false either. You can't
1:41:01
Speaker 1: say it's false it has it's just meaningless. It's just nothing.
1:41:08
Speaker 1: And I think eve all at the end of the
1:41:09
Speaker 1: day is nothing. There's no there there. It's not true.
1:41:16
Speaker 1: But to be false, Uh, you know, they have to
1:41:19
Speaker 1: have a reference point, and mysticism has no reference point.
1:41:24
Speaker 1: It has no reference. You're not making a mistake, all right,
1:41:44
Speaker 1: all right, Thank you, Ali, and yeah, feel fe to
1:41:48
Speaker 1: ask more questions if you have them, and hopefully you
1:41:55
Speaker 1: gain some value out of my discussion of the book.
1:41:57
Speaker 1: I know it took me a long time to get
1:41:59
Speaker 1: to it, and I pologize for that, but I did
1:42:02
Speaker 1: warn you in advance. All right, let's look at the questions.
1:42:05
Speaker 1: We've got one hundred dollars question from Andrew, and then
1:42:07
Speaker 1: we'll go to fifty dollar questions, and then the twenty
1:42:09
Speaker 1: dollars questions. Then we'll get to the two, five and
1:42:12
Speaker 1: ten dollars questions, and there are a lot of them,
1:42:14
Speaker 1: so that today's show is going to go long. All right,
1:42:17
Speaker 1: Andrew says, please contrast a rational, healthy attitude of sexual
1:42:20
Speaker 1: desire against each of these God you asked these questions.
1:42:23
Speaker 1: This should be a whole show mgto men going their
1:42:28
Speaker 1: own way, who denies it, to the tilla whom to
1:42:34
Speaker 1: whom its purpose is social domination, the reading a Christian
1:42:38
Speaker 1: who viewed as an evil animal impulse that one is
1:42:42
Speaker 1: forced to sometimes indulge. I mean, a healthy attitude to
1:42:48
Speaker 1: sexual desire is God. I mean, this is the kind
1:42:51
Speaker 1: of question that deserves a show, and which I would
1:42:55
Speaker 1: prepare for healthy attitude to sexual desire is the desire
1:43:01
Speaker 1: to share in a moment of immense physical pleasure, and
1:43:06
Speaker 1: not in a moment in a period of immense physical
1:43:10
Speaker 1: pleasure with somebody who view who you view as deserving
1:43:20
Speaker 1: and as of worthy of sharing in this extraordinary uh,
1:43:31
Speaker 1: probably the most pleasurable experience a human being can have,
1:43:38
Speaker 1: an immense or gasmic and it's and it's it's it's
1:43:42
Speaker 1: a also a very revealing experience sex, it's super intimate.
1:43:47
Speaker 1: It's you're naked, naked in the in the in the
1:43:51
Speaker 1: full sense of it. Uh, But it's a it's a
1:43:58
Speaker 1: it's a shared experience. And you want to share such
1:44:04
Speaker 1: an immense experience with somebody that you think is a
1:44:09
Speaker 1: value and worthy of that sharing is worthy of your
1:44:14
Speaker 1: you know, your reveal your nakedness, if you will, spiritual
1:44:21
Speaker 1: and physical nakedness. I mean men going their own way.
1:44:28
Speaker 1: And therefore, if you're a man, you're attracted to a
1:44:31
Speaker 1: woman who lives up to who you are. You're looking
1:44:36
Speaker 1: for an equal, not a same not a woman who
1:44:40
Speaker 1: is the same as you, but somebody who is your
1:44:42
Speaker 1: equal in her own way and who represents an immense
1:44:47
Speaker 1: value to you. Men going their own way view women
1:44:52
Speaker 1: as a burden. They view women as a distraction. They
1:44:57
Speaker 1: want to have sex, they want the physical pleasure that
1:45:02
Speaker 1: is involved in sex, but they don't want the sharing
1:45:07
Speaker 1: of it. And they don't care particularly of the value
1:45:12
Speaker 1: of the women because the women is a burden. The
1:45:15
Speaker 1: women is a liability. The woman is they're gonna she's
1:45:18
Speaker 1: gonna go after your stuff, she's gonna take up your time.
1:45:20
Speaker 1: She's she's you know, she's just she's just. Uh so,
1:45:25
Speaker 1: you know, they still want relationships with them. They want
1:45:27
Speaker 1: to escape, they want to go away. Then they're not engaged,
1:45:29
Speaker 1: they're not involved. Uh. They don't see another soul who
1:45:38
Speaker 1: is a value to you? They see another soul another
1:45:43
Speaker 1: I don't know, means for pleasure. Who is a burden?
1:45:48
Speaker 1: Not a value? What's the second one? To a tilla,
1:45:53
Speaker 1: So to tell us, sex is a phone of domination.
1:45:57
Speaker 1: To tilla, sex is a form of subjugation. Again, there
1:46:01
Speaker 1: is no sharing, there is no unity, there is no uh,
1:46:05
Speaker 1: there is no bonding. Uh, there is no shade experience.
1:46:09
Speaker 1: There is dominating another human being. And uh and and
1:46:16
Speaker 1: uh so to them, it's it's about a pseudo self
1:46:22
Speaker 1: esteem that comes from Look how masculine and how big
1:46:27
Speaker 1: and how strong I am. Women are just a vehicle
1:46:32
Speaker 1: that they use to elevate themselves. I mean a pseudo elevation.
1:46:38
Speaker 1: But you know, h it produces a pseudo self esteem,
1:46:41
Speaker 1: a potent self esteem, but it's animalistic and it involves domination.
1:46:50
Speaker 1: And then finally, the Christian attitude which evol by the
1:46:53
Speaker 1: way criticizers, which is sex as shameful, sex as the
1:47:00
Speaker 1: original sin, sex as dirty, sex as animalistic, that we
1:47:11
Speaker 1: all have the urge to do and we can't help ourselves,
1:47:13
Speaker 1: and we need to do it to pro create, but
1:47:16
Speaker 1: it's an urge that we satisfy quaw fallen human beings
1:47:22
Speaker 1: qua sinful human beings. And if we'll do it, yeah,
1:47:28
Speaker 1: you'll get the pleasure out of it, and then you
1:47:30
Speaker 1: should feel shame about it. So, you know, embrace the
1:47:37
Speaker 1: fact that you're an animal that are fallen and you
1:47:40
Speaker 1: should be shameful and embarrassed by that fact. So that
1:47:47
Speaker 1: would be my view as again, a healthy attitude is
1:47:52
Speaker 1: embrace the pleasure and the sharing of that pleasure with
1:47:56
Speaker 1: a human being worthy of the sharing. All right, Clark,
1:48:08
Speaker 1: Even if we don't get a full blown civil war,
1:48:11
Speaker 1: what we see more violence between ICE and the public.
1:48:14
Speaker 1: How will MAGA respond if ICE agents start getting popped?
1:48:18
Speaker 1: Do you think they'll pull ICE back to keep unleashing
1:48:21
Speaker 1: them or keep unleashing them on the public at the
1:48:24
Speaker 1: same rate. Well, I mean, you know, it's really hard
1:48:27
Speaker 1: to tell how this evolves. I mean, it does seem
1:48:30
Speaker 1: like they chose this weekend to escalate. So there are
1:48:34
Speaker 1: stories coming out of Minnesota of ICE breaking down doors
1:48:38
Speaker 1: and going into people's homes. You remember JD Vance talk
1:48:41
Speaker 1: about going dough to door. Well, it looks like they're
1:48:43
Speaker 1: going door to doornow in Minnesota. So, and there's another
1:48:50
Speaker 1: there's another video going around showing an ICE agent approaching
1:48:53
Speaker 1: a woman filming him and he's saying, so, haven't you
1:48:57
Speaker 1: learned anything for what's happened? And then she's says, what
1:49:00
Speaker 1: is it I should have learned any kind of slammed,
1:49:03
Speaker 1: you know, yanks the phone out of her hands. That is,
1:49:06
Speaker 1: we are going to be violent with you. That is,
1:49:08
Speaker 1: there doesn't seem to be any retrenching. This seems to
1:49:12
Speaker 1: be a doubling up, a recommitment, and an escalation if anything.
1:49:17
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I mean, the public is turning
1:49:20
Speaker 1: against ICE, I think in large numbers. I think suddenly
1:49:26
Speaker 1: the polls are showing that the public rejects the violence
1:49:31
Speaker 1: and the techniques of ICE, and suddenly forty six percent
1:49:35
Speaker 1: of Americans think that I should be abolished. That's from
1:49:38
Speaker 1: like twelve percent, you know, a few months ago. So
1:49:42
Speaker 1: the public seems to be turning away from them. But
1:49:44
Speaker 1: I don't think MAGO is based on what I'm seeing.
1:49:46
Speaker 1: MAGO will defend them to the death. They do God's work.
1:49:50
Speaker 1: They kick out those immigrants, and immigrants are the evil
1:49:56
Speaker 1: in our society. The evil in our society are immigrants.
1:50:00
Speaker 1: So we are going to see more violence, yes, Now,
1:50:03
Speaker 1: whether that violence will lead to somebody shooting an ICE agent,
1:50:07
Speaker 1: I hope not, but I wouldn't be surprised if we
1:50:12
Speaker 1: saw more ICE agents using violence against the public, and
1:50:20
Speaker 1: at some point somebody might take a shot at an
1:50:23
Speaker 1: ICE agent. That would be very bad because that would
1:50:26
Speaker 1: only give them more embold than them to become even
1:50:30
Speaker 1: more violent. So I obstruct them, but peaceful. You know,
1:50:36
Speaker 1: we should be civilly disobedient. I'm all for civil disobedience
1:50:41
Speaker 1: in this case, but it has to be peaceful. I'm
1:50:45
Speaker 1: a montel Luther King side on this one, James, you
1:50:52
Speaker 1: said the main difference between MAGA and the Nazis is
1:50:54
Speaker 1: the Nazis were driven by ideology, whereas MEGA just a
1:50:57
Speaker 1: bunch of thugs. Well, I I didn't say that, but anyway,
1:51:01
Speaker 1: but MEGA has this racist, nationalist Christian ideology that is
1:51:05
Speaker 1: similar to Nazi Germany. Maybe not as sophisticated. No, I
1:51:08
Speaker 1: don't think they do. I don't think MEGA has the
1:51:12
Speaker 1: racist nationalists Christian ideology. That elements within MEGA that do,
1:51:17
Speaker 1: but MAGA as a whole does not. Mega drifts in
1:51:21
Speaker 1: whatever direction Trump takes it for the most part, and
1:51:26
Speaker 1: you know, the only thing they really unite them is
1:51:28
Speaker 1: they hate immigrants and they filled with conspiracy theories. One
1:51:36
Speaker 1: branch of MEGA, one element within MEGA. And this is
1:51:40
Speaker 1: why I think Jdvans is so dangerous. The ged Vance
1:51:44
Speaker 1: element within MEGA is a nationalist Christian ideology, and some
1:51:51
Speaker 1: people within that also racist. I don't know if JD.
1:51:54
Speaker 1: Vance is racist, but people within that coalition are racists,
1:51:58
Speaker 1: and that makes them most similar. But that's a small
1:52:02
Speaker 1: group of people, and most of the American people, an
1:52:04
Speaker 1: overwhelming majority of the American people at the least as
1:52:07
Speaker 1: of now, reject that and I'd say even most of
1:52:10
Speaker 1: MEGA rejects it. So I think it's only a piece
1:52:13
Speaker 1: of MAGA that holds that view, and it's a growing piece.
1:52:20
Speaker 1: It's a scary piece, and it's the JD. Van's portion.
1:52:25
Speaker 1: And you know, a part of that is Tucka, and
1:52:29
Speaker 1: a part of that is is foy Intis. But even
1:52:32
Speaker 1: tuck and for Intis is still, relatively speaking, a smaller
1:52:36
Speaker 1: part of the total what we call MEGA. So if
1:52:40
Speaker 1: you still, if you pull MEGA, they don't agree with
1:52:43
Speaker 1: a lot of what Tucker Colson in Fluentas are advocating
1:52:47
Speaker 1: for now, I think that as long as Tucka and
1:52:51
Speaker 1: Fuantas have a platform that's not challenged. And by the way,
1:52:55
Speaker 1: what's the name Magan Kelly has just joined them in
1:52:58
Speaker 1: the anti Semitic nuttyness them and what's her name, Candice Owen.
1:53:05
Speaker 1: If that those people continue to gain traction, If those people,
1:53:12
Speaker 1: if those people you know, continue on the path the
1:53:16
Speaker 1: way on right now, you know, they, then we might
1:53:29
Speaker 1: face the situation where we're facing real fascists. We're not
1:53:34
Speaker 1: quite there yet, all right, Uh, let me just take
1:53:40
Speaker 1: a look here. We've seen that, seen that, all right?
1:53:58
Speaker 1: I don't see anything dramatically new right now, But yeah,
1:54:06
Speaker 1: same videos seems to be circulating and so ILGC. The
1:54:15
Speaker 1: Islamic Republican God is now hunting starlink signals, so they're
1:54:20
Speaker 1: trying to shut down starlink. So they are searching. I
1:54:25
Speaker 1: guess there's a way to track the signal, and they're
1:54:30
Speaker 1: trying to figure out where they're coming from and then
1:54:32
Speaker 1: shutting them down. Starlight Wi Fi signal becomes like a
1:54:39
Speaker 1: homing beacon. When starlink is activated during protests, they mark locations.
1:54:44
Speaker 1: The state assumes the operational so such as escalating checkpoints,
1:54:49
Speaker 1: tightening informants. Activated hotspots are treated as hostile cells. The
1:54:54
Speaker 1: cost is brutal. There's a real war in side if
1:54:57
Speaker 1: you on right now, it really is, I mean in
1:55:00
Speaker 1: and the people who are doing the people out there,
1:55:02
Speaker 1: and Iran incredibly courageous, incredibly brave for standing up to
1:55:07
Speaker 1: this regime. Andrew, what do you think of the views
1:55:13
Speaker 1: as between Jason Gogin's Guy and Rand on struggling life?
1:55:20
Speaker 1: He says life is struggle, thus embracing it and learned
1:55:24
Speaker 1: to love your version to it. Rand said struggle should
1:55:28
Speaker 1: generally be avoided. It has no inherent value. Well, I mean,
1:55:32
Speaker 1: she doesn't quite say that. I don't think that's what
1:55:34
Speaker 1: she says. Think about Reiden and think about the endless nights,
1:55:40
Speaker 1: the struggle to come up with the read in metal,
1:55:43
Speaker 1: the formula for readA metal, the attempts, the failures, the
1:55:46
Speaker 1: ongoing attempts again, the late nights, the sleepless nights, the struggle.
1:55:56
Speaker 1: But Rand says, the struggle doesn't define the life. The
1:56:01
Speaker 1: achievement is what defines it. The struggle is a means.
1:56:05
Speaker 1: The struggle is often inevitable, but it's not the end.
1:56:10
Speaker 1: It's not the purpose. It's not you're not celebrating the struggle.
1:56:15
Speaker 1: You're celebrating the value that you're trying to achieve. Gogan's
1:56:20
Speaker 1: is too much in my view, Like Nico says, a
1:56:22
Speaker 1: different view of Gogan's been in my view, and I
1:56:24
Speaker 1: did a whole show. I did a show on Gogan
1:56:26
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, two three years ago. Gogan
1:56:28
Speaker 1: is too much about the struggle. The focus is too much.
1:56:32
Speaker 1: The struggle is the value. But there's no question that
1:56:37
Speaker 1: you can't really achieve anything without a struggle, without working
1:56:43
Speaker 1: really really hard, without some pain. But the point is
1:56:47
Speaker 1: that the pain, you know, it's not the purpose. The
1:56:52
Speaker 1: pain only goes so far. The pain is just part
1:56:56
Speaker 1: of the process of getting the value that you need.
1:57:02
Speaker 1: David Gogan, Yeah, not Jason Gorgan. I think it's David Gogan. Yeah, so,
1:57:06
Speaker 1: I think that's the difference. David Gogan celebrates the struggle
1:57:11
Speaker 1: and the pain way too much. Iman views it as
1:57:14
Speaker 1: maybe a necessary often necessary, a part of living and
1:57:19
Speaker 1: part of creating and part of achieving, but not kind
1:57:23
Speaker 1: of almost an end in itself, and really an insignificant
1:57:29
Speaker 1: part of existence. Even though it's there, it's not what's important.
1:57:35
Speaker 1: What's important is the success. What's important is the value.
1:57:41
Speaker 1: All right, Jeffrey Miller says, I've decided to change my
1:57:44
Speaker 1: relationship to these twenty dollars. In other words, your relationship
1:57:48
Speaker 1: now is you're divorcing from them, so you're transferring the
1:57:53
Speaker 1: relationship to me. I appreciate that. Jeffrey, Thank you, really
1:57:56
Speaker 1: really appreciated. Michael is Trump more of a mafia boss
1:58:01
Speaker 1: than a fascist. If you bribe him, he'll deregulate your
1:58:04
Speaker 1: industry and leave you alone in a twisted way. Does
1:58:08
Speaker 1: this get us more economic growth and innovation? In the
1:58:11
Speaker 1: show to run, It's definitely more of a mafia boss
1:58:14
Speaker 1: than a fascist, there's no question about that. But he
1:58:18
Speaker 1: also has populist fascist tendencies. I mean, he just announced
1:58:22
Speaker 1: yesterday last night that he was going to sign an
1:58:25
Speaker 1: executive order to cap interest rates on credit cards at
1:58:29
Speaker 1: ten percent for a year. That's that's not you know.
1:58:36
Speaker 1: Maybe that's that's him trying to appease the masses, maybe
1:58:41
Speaker 1: mafia boss style with force. But he cares about the masses.
1:58:46
Speaker 1: He cares about people want loving him. He cares about that.
1:58:51
Speaker 1: So he cares about the so called air foldability crisis,
1:58:54
Speaker 1: and he's willing to use pseudo economics to fix it.
1:58:58
Speaker 1: Now again, this again, I know what offense out of you.
1:59:02
Speaker 1: Donald trumpassed the economic the understanding of economics of a
1:59:05
Speaker 1: fifth grader. And this is a good example. The way
1:59:08
Speaker 1: to deal with high credit card interest rates is to
1:59:10
Speaker 1: cap interest rates, price controls. Tell with economic theory, teal
1:59:15
Speaker 1: with history, tell with facts, deal with reality. I just
1:59:19
Speaker 1: wish it. That's against the mentality. I just wim it,
1:59:22
Speaker 1: and therefore it shall be. Canada have positive short term outcomes, sure,
1:59:27
Speaker 1: but it can also have very negative short term outcome.
1:59:29
Speaker 1: It can go either way. It's not guaranteed to be
1:59:32
Speaker 1: short termed because that deregulation he might somebody might bribe
1:59:37
Speaker 1: him to deregulate. Somebody else might bribe him to regulate.
1:59:40
Speaker 1: Somebody else might bribe him to increase tariffs. Somebody else
1:59:44
Speaker 1: might bribe him to destroy the credit card business. You
1:59:48
Speaker 1: don't know what he's going to be bribed to do,
1:59:51
Speaker 1: and some of the stuff he's going to be bribed
1:59:52
Speaker 1: to do, it's going to be negative short run and
1:59:54
Speaker 1: long term, So I'm not sure where it lands up
1:59:58
Speaker 1: on net. Not clear. Again, an assessment from your on
2:00:14
Speaker 1: people can hold out for at most two more nights.
2:00:17
Speaker 1: A lot of people have been killed in the south.
2:00:20
Speaker 1: This isn't Tehran, in the poorest part of Tehran. They've
2:00:24
Speaker 1: been killed. If outside the system is coming, it must
2:00:27
Speaker 1: come now. People need to see tangible kinetic action to
2:00:31
Speaker 1: sustain hope. I mean that makes sense to me. That
2:00:37
Speaker 1: that makes sense to me, and the regime I think
2:00:40
Speaker 1: is counting on help not coming and people giving up liam.
2:00:46
Speaker 1: What is the difference between acting on your emotions versus
2:00:49
Speaker 1: having a valid emotional response to things. Well, again, having
2:00:53
Speaker 1: an emotional response is not acting on it. Emotions happen
2:00:57
Speaker 1: inside of you. They don't force you to act on them.
2:01:01
Speaker 1: So acting on your emotion is to actually do stuff
2:01:06
Speaker 1: because you feel a particular way your fate. You run,
2:01:12
Speaker 1: you're angry, you lash out at somebody, versus having an
2:01:16
Speaker 1: emotion and then considering rationally what you should do about
2:01:21
Speaker 1: it in terms of does this require action or not?
2:01:25
Speaker 1: And what kind of action? And how should I act
2:01:27
Speaker 1: and why should I act? So you know, having a
2:01:31
Speaker 1: valid emotional response to things does not necessitate action it.
2:01:36
Speaker 1: You know, the appropriate way to do it is to
2:01:38
Speaker 1: have the emotion, experience it, recognize it, and then assess
2:01:42
Speaker 1: what needs to be done about it if it's an
2:01:44
Speaker 1: emotion that requires action, and acting on emotion is just
2:01:49
Speaker 1: acting without that assessment. Not to havevage algorithm MAGA has
2:01:56
Speaker 1: the minds of brainwashed toddlers. It's hard to believe to
2:02:00
Speaker 1: in America. Won't devour the Trump cult in the midterms.
2:02:04
Speaker 1: Americans want things to go back to normal. They don't
2:02:08
Speaker 1: want clown World. Yeah, but they voted for clown World. God,
2:02:11
Speaker 1: they were warned. They had the first term and this
2:02:15
Speaker 1: is clown world. This is the first time on steroids,
2:02:17
Speaker 1: So they were warned. So you know who knows, and
2:02:26
Speaker 1: you know, if Trump does a few good things and
2:02:29
Speaker 1: that convinces people that that's enough. Yeah, Jennifer says, when
2:02:46
Speaker 1: I was young and reading philosophy, I thought I must
2:02:49
Speaker 1: be too stupid to understand it. Then I read Iran
2:02:52
Speaker 1: and it made sense and I understood it. It was
2:02:55
Speaker 1: such an awesome experience. Yes, I mean, part of Iman's
2:02:58
Speaker 1: genius is she writes English. She writes in a form
2:03:02
Speaker 1: that's understandable, and because of philosophy is a reality based
2:03:08
Speaker 1: philosophy connected directly to reality. It means that it's understandable
2:03:14
Speaker 1: because it's related to the things that we experience, that
2:03:17
Speaker 1: we know, that we understand, and it's based on reason
2:03:20
Speaker 1: which we have access to, versus philosophies to talk about
2:03:26
Speaker 1: esoteric stuff that is not connected to anything here, impossible
2:03:31
Speaker 1: to understand because we can't connect to those things because
2:03:34
Speaker 1: they ultimately they don't exist. You understand that, but when
2:03:37
Speaker 1: you read it for the first time, it's impossible to
2:03:42
Speaker 1: link to it all, right, not you have ar algorithm?
2:03:56
Speaker 1: Do you find it's rare to talk to people where
2:03:59
Speaker 1: it's just you them? In reality, so few people are
2:04:02
Speaker 1: fully honest and present. They're often uh, caving and having
2:04:11
Speaker 1: ulterior motives. I mean it depends where. I mean I
2:04:14
Speaker 1: find it. Face to face. It's easier online because you
2:04:19
Speaker 1: can't read them, you get more of this uh dishonesty.
2:04:24
Speaker 1: Face to face people seem to be more honest, straightforward,
2:04:29
Speaker 1: uh and and you're dealing more with reality. But yes,
2:04:33
Speaker 1: I think online it's it's almost impossible. It's too easy
2:04:38
Speaker 1: for people to evade reality because they're not they're not
2:04:43
Speaker 1: facing you, and and and they're not even revealing their
2:04:45
Speaker 1: identity most of the time. But in real life I
2:04:50
Speaker 1: find people mostly honest and struggling to understand otherwise they
2:04:56
Speaker 1: won't approach you. That that evading slimy. I mean sometimes
2:05:03
Speaker 1: they do, but mostly they don't want to be confronted
2:05:05
Speaker 1: with reality. Andrew, does attempting to follow Christian principles literally
2:05:12
Speaker 1: logically lead to a formation of a malevolent universe premise? Well,
2:05:18
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the more you follow them and
2:05:21
Speaker 1: the more seriously you take them, and and you know,
2:05:26
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's humnistic because there other factors
2:05:31
Speaker 1: that play into this that impact people. But yes, I
2:05:39
Speaker 1: think that religion, particularly Christianity, with its idea of the
2:05:45
Speaker 1: fall and its idea of you know, original sin. It's
2:05:53
Speaker 1: very difficult have a positive view of the world. Ultimately,
2:05:56
Speaker 1: the more you take those ideas seriously, all right, um
2:06:15
Speaker 1: uh the m okay, lots of videos coming in from Iran,
2:06:21
Speaker 1: from different cities, from different places that anyway, let's say,
2:06:43
Speaker 1: Robert says, first sticker, first super Chat, bring them on
2:06:47
Speaker 1: Iran YBS fans. Yeah, they did bring him on today.
2:06:50
Speaker 1: Thank you Robert for setting the tone. They definitely brought
2:06:53
Speaker 1: it today. We were at nine hundred and fifty dollars.
2:06:56
Speaker 1: This is great. You guys have been phenomenal today. Michael,
2:07:01
Speaker 1: what happens federal agents and local officials stop getting along?
2:07:05
Speaker 1: Would Trump use that as a pretext for replacing local
2:07:08
Speaker 1: police with federal agents. I don't think he has enough
2:07:11
Speaker 1: federal agents. I don't know that he can do that.
2:07:13
Speaker 1: I you know, that kind of hostility, which I think
2:07:15
Speaker 1: already exists in many parts of the country. You know,
2:07:20
Speaker 1: the question is how much, to what extent does either
2:07:23
Speaker 1: party want to elevate it? To what extent do they
2:07:26
Speaker 1: want to they want to make it worse? And it's
2:07:28
Speaker 1: not clear. It really isn't clear. You know, how are
2:07:35
Speaker 1: they going to respond ultimately and am on many of
2:07:48
Speaker 1: those who think I shouldn't respond to low level attacks
2:07:52
Speaker 1: also ones who think Israel shouldn't respond to Palestinian rock throwers. No,
2:07:57
Speaker 1: I don't see any connection between that, and certainly I
2:08:00
Speaker 1: am not I am not one of those. I certainly
2:08:05
Speaker 1: think Israel should respond to Palestinian rock throws and I
2:08:09
Speaker 1: think I don't think I should respond to low level attacks.
2:08:14
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think ICE should exist, But I
2:08:18
Speaker 1: think it's absurd that you know, ICE is pulling guns
2:08:22
Speaker 1: on people that are filming them, that that ICE is
2:08:28
Speaker 1: is shooting people for I don't know for what. It's
2:08:30
Speaker 1: not clear why she was shot. So no, I don't think.
2:08:37
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the same people. You know. The
2:08:41
Speaker 1: difference is that the people are criticizing ICE of people
2:08:43
Speaker 1: who believe in freedom and liberty, and people who believe
2:08:46
Speaker 1: in freedom and liberty should also recognize the freedom of
2:08:48
Speaker 1: liberty if Israel, and if they don't, then it's their mistake.
2:08:52
Speaker 1: You know, you can be mistaken about one thing and
2:08:54
Speaker 1: write about another thing. Stop. Don't treat people as tribes,
2:08:59
Speaker 1: don't treat people as monolis. Rowland says, I'd love to
2:09:04
Speaker 1: visit a free run one day, go freedom fighters, absolutely, Gail. Yes,
2:09:10
Speaker 1: Trump is dangerous as he always acts on emotion only. Yes,
2:09:14
Speaker 1: sometimes he gets stuff right because his emotions are tuned.
2:09:18
Speaker 1: But you don't want to rely on that. That's very dangerous. Liam.
2:09:29
Speaker 1: We're trapped between Nazis and communists. How do we escape? Well,
2:09:33
Speaker 1: I don't think well trapped between Nazis and communists. I
2:09:36
Speaker 1: don't think they left of communists, and I don't think
2:09:37
Speaker 1: the right on Nazis not yet. So the only way
2:09:41
Speaker 1: to escape is to try to change things, Try to
2:09:45
Speaker 1: educate people, try oppose both sides. You're not going to
2:09:49
Speaker 1: escape by joining either tribe. But stop thinking it's Nazis
2:09:55
Speaker 1: against communists, because that's not yet the world in which
2:09:57
Speaker 1: we live. And if it was literally Nazis versus Communists,
2:10:03
Speaker 1: then I'd say, yeah, get on the first plane and
2:10:05
Speaker 1: get out of the country. You do not want to
2:10:07
Speaker 1: live in either one of those. Whoever wins, it's an absolute,
2:10:10
Speaker 1: unmitigated disaster. It's still not that bad. Think about the
2:10:14
Speaker 1: life that you have, think about the freedoms that you have,
2:10:17
Speaker 1: think about the world in which you live. It's still
2:10:19
Speaker 1: pretty good. I get the warmth of collectivism, i'm donnie,
2:10:25
Speaker 1: but he's not a communist and he can't act as
2:10:28
Speaker 1: a communist. He's a collectivist. So it's almost by the way,
2:10:34
Speaker 1: almost everybody is a collectivist. I'll say this again, almost
2:10:39
Speaker 1: everybody is a collectivist. Even many of the free market
2:10:43
Speaker 1: economists are collectivists. They use utilitarianism to justify the support
2:10:47
Speaker 1: of free markets. Almost everybody is a collectivist. So you know,
2:10:54
Speaker 1: Mamdannie says it out loud in a way that most
2:10:57
Speaker 1: people don't. Yeah, many libertarians are collect us. But he's
2:11:03
Speaker 1: not a communist. He's a socialist bad enough, really really
2:11:07
Speaker 1: really bad. And of course, m'mdon he's not running for
2:11:12
Speaker 1: president and couldn't win if he ran, Matt. If Israel
2:11:20
Speaker 1: has the intel, should they take out their tula and
2:11:23
Speaker 1: deal with Trump afterwards? Too risky or is this too
2:11:26
Speaker 1: important a moment till it pass? I think it's too
2:11:28
Speaker 1: important a moment till they pass. I think Israel should
2:11:33
Speaker 1: prepare its population and then launch a massive attack on
2:11:39
Speaker 1: every and every one of the ballistic missile silos that
2:11:45
Speaker 1: the Iranians have. They should try to destroy as much
2:11:48
Speaker 1: of that capacity as possible, and as part of that
2:11:51
Speaker 1: they should go after their toil and kill him. They
2:11:53
Speaker 1: should have done that in the Twelve Day War. But
2:11:56
Speaker 1: better late than never, and now's the time. The Iranian
2:11:59
Speaker 1: people definitely appreciate it. Don't wait for Trump, Do not
2:12:02
Speaker 1: wait for Trump. Trump will later take credit for it
2:12:05
Speaker 1: all anyway, Liam says, what Matt Walsh always this racist creton?
2:12:13
Speaker 1: How long until he turns on Ben Shapiro? What will
2:12:16
Speaker 1: Ben do when the army he created turn on him?
2:12:20
Speaker 1: He will have to choose a choice, no choice but
2:12:24
Speaker 1: to embrace objectivism. Yeah, he's never gonna embrace objectivism. He'll
2:12:27
Speaker 1: disappear into into his religiosity, but he won't embrass objectivism.
2:12:36
Speaker 1: Based on objectivism would be way too much for Ben.
2:12:40
Speaker 1: I don't know how long Walsh has been this way.
2:12:43
Speaker 1: He might have always been this way, but acting more
2:12:45
Speaker 1: moderate and he's revealing his true self. I don't know
2:12:49
Speaker 1: how exactly. I don't know enough about him, but yeah,
2:12:53
Speaker 1: he is very bad. And I do think it's going
2:12:55
Speaker 1: to come soon that many of the daily Why people
2:13:00
Speaker 1: will turn against Ben. And I'm not sure what happens
2:13:03
Speaker 1: to Ben at that point, but the option is not
2:13:06
Speaker 1: to turn into objectivism. That will never happen. Alexis just
2:13:10
Speaker 1: started watching other people's money based on your recommendation. Yeah, enjoy,
2:13:15
Speaker 1: that's a fun movie. I let me know what you thought.
2:13:18
Speaker 1: What you think real spark, so they call me concentration
2:13:25
Speaker 1: heart that That is the line from to Be or
2:13:30
Speaker 1: Not to Be a Ernst Lubitch a movie from the
2:13:35
Speaker 1: nineteen forties making fun of the Nazis with God what's
2:13:41
Speaker 1: his name? Jack Benny? I think Kyle Lombard and Jack
2:13:47
Speaker 1: Benny one of the funniest movies you've ever seen. It's
2:13:50
Speaker 1: making fun of Nazis, which is kind of sick, but
2:13:54
Speaker 1: it's hysterical, so yeah, I don't confuse it with the
2:14:00
Speaker 1: books remake. The remake is knowing you as good the original,
2:14:05
Speaker 1: Go for the original. Harper Campbell, it's not reason versus emotion.
2:14:11
Speaker 1: You're using reason to reach an emotion happiness. Happiness is
2:14:16
Speaker 1: not exactly an emotion. Happiness is a state of consciousness.
2:14:20
Speaker 1: It's not an emotion, and the reason can be a
2:14:24
Speaker 1: versus emotion. When emotion, you know when your emotions are
2:14:29
Speaker 1: going against your reason, which can often happen and often
2:14:32
Speaker 1: does happen to people, particularly as they change their value
2:14:35
Speaker 1: system and your emotions are stuck in the old value
2:14:38
Speaker 1: system and you already moved on. You have to reprogram
2:14:42
Speaker 1: your values. You have to read program you're subconscious. Liam
2:14:46
Speaker 1: is objective is the only way to equip yourself for successful,
2:14:49
Speaker 1: successful action in life. Well, I don't think it's the
2:14:53
Speaker 1: only way. I mean, suddenly there were people, there were
2:14:59
Speaker 1: people who really successful successful lives without objectivism. But it's
2:15:05
Speaker 1: the best way. It's the easiest way, because it's it's
2:15:07
Speaker 1: it's a you don't have to rediscover these truths, they're
2:15:11
Speaker 1: right there. She's given us a formula. Again, you shouldn't
2:15:15
Speaker 1: do it blindly. But it's easier to learn from my
2:15:18
Speaker 1: rand than to discover these things by yourself, And with
2:15:22
Speaker 1: objectivism you'll be more consistent. Ali Mussa, Thanks you, Ron,
2:15:29
Speaker 1: thank you, thanks for getting me to read the book,
2:15:32
Speaker 1: and thanks for the contribution Robert given Trump and Gnome.
2:15:37
Speaker 1: I don't see any way to to adjust outcome, and
2:15:40
Speaker 1: they're in a good case. Any thoughts on the chance
2:15:43
Speaker 1: of a wrongth death lawsuit against Ice. I mean, I
2:15:47
Speaker 1: think there'll be some legal case. You know, it's hard
2:15:50
Speaker 1: to tell, and I don't know enough about the law
2:15:53
Speaker 1: and state law of this is federal law to tell
2:15:55
Speaker 1: you how how that will come about and what its
2:15:59
Speaker 1: chances are. But I think there will be some legal consequences.
2:16:04
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll come from Trump and Nome. I
2:16:06
Speaker 1: mean they are they seem to be committed to defending
2:16:09
Speaker 1: Ice at all costs. Steve O. Brandon says self esteem
2:16:16
Speaker 1: as a human need is on the level of calcium important,
2:16:21
Speaker 1: but not the most essential. Would Rand agree with that?
2:16:24
Speaker 1: I don't even understand what that means. Well, depends what
2:16:29
Speaker 1: you mean by human important. For what it's a human
2:16:35
Speaker 1: need for what? So can you live a flourishing, successful
2:16:39
Speaker 1: life without self esteem? No? Can you achieve happiness without
2:16:43
Speaker 1: self esteem? No? Can you achieve success and anything positive
2:16:50
Speaker 1: pro life without self esteem? No? So you know it's
2:16:59
Speaker 1: it's a cardinal value. Reason, purpose, and self esteem are
2:17:02
Speaker 1: the three cardinal values. According to Rand, I don't think
2:17:05
Speaker 1: you can achieve real human life without them. And I'm
2:17:14
Speaker 1: not sure where you're getting that from Brandon, because I
2:17:16
Speaker 1: thought Brandon would see it exactly that way. Real Spuck
2:17:21
Speaker 1: recall seen in Doctor Zivago with Doctor Zevaga returns to
2:17:24
Speaker 1: find his home being shared with strangers since he had
2:17:28
Speaker 1: extra rooms. That is the warmth of collectivism. Absolutely, And
2:17:33
Speaker 1: you know Irand experienced the same thing with their home
2:17:36
Speaker 1: in Saint Petersburg. They had to share it with other people.
2:17:39
Speaker 1: You see the same thing in We the Living Irand's
2:17:42
Speaker 1: novel Steve O. Tell us about education your kids received.
2:17:48
Speaker 1: Was it any good? Were they taught by objectivists? Private schools,
2:17:51
Speaker 1: lots of ap classes, anything else you want to say?
2:17:55
Speaker 1: Just my kids had Montsovi education when they were very
2:17:59
Speaker 1: young at a Montssouri school that we screened and chose
2:18:03
Speaker 1: and found in Austin, and then in San Jose, California.
2:18:07
Speaker 1: My eldest was in Montssouri through third grade at a
2:18:11
Speaker 1: decent Montssouri program. Then they both were the founding kids
2:18:19
Speaker 1: at Vandam Academy Lisa Van Dam School, and they were
2:18:24
Speaker 1: originally just five I think five kids, and two of
2:18:28
Speaker 1: my kids were part of those initial fives. So they
2:18:31
Speaker 1: had and they had objective as teachers, Andrew Andrew Lewis
2:18:35
Speaker 1: among them. And then from there, I mean one of
2:18:40
Speaker 1: my sons stayed there until tenth grade and then went
2:18:42
Speaker 1: to normal high school, private high school. My old son
2:18:45
Speaker 1: went to when you have a private high school and
2:18:47
Speaker 1: then to public school. The private high school and public
2:18:49
Speaker 1: schools okay, but nothing special, you know, very left wing
2:18:56
Speaker 1: when it came to almost everything, and mediocre when he
2:18:59
Speaker 1: came to science and a they my young oldest took
2:19:03
Speaker 1: some AP classes. My youngest did not. Yeah, I mean,
2:19:08
Speaker 1: I don't know what else? What else is valuable to share?
2:19:14
Speaker 1: Who are but shameless self promotion for anyone who might
2:19:17
Speaker 1: be interested in my experience on this My substack post
2:19:20
Speaker 1: on the topic. I'm not sure what the topic is,
2:19:23
Speaker 1: and it's easy to find if you search. My name
2:19:26
Speaker 1: is entitled everything is Enough. Maybe that's some meaning? Probably
2:19:31
Speaker 1: Steve O again, can you can you share life experience?
2:19:35
Speaker 1: That illustrated the point there are no conflicts of interest
2:19:38
Speaker 1: among rational men? I think the last scene of other
2:19:41
Speaker 1: people's money was a brilliant example. God, I'm not good
2:19:47
Speaker 1: at this life experience thing because that requires memory and
2:19:50
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't, I don't. My FOIUT folders are
2:19:53
Speaker 1: not organized in that way. But yeah, I mean, I
2:20:03
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I mean, I just can't.
2:20:06
Speaker 1: Haven't experienced real conflict among rational men, I mean among
2:20:11
Speaker 1: my rational friends. I mean the best, I mean, the
2:20:15
Speaker 1: best example of that to me is that all my
2:20:17
Speaker 1: partnerships and business ventures are being with friends. None of
2:20:21
Speaker 1: them are really you know. Some of them succeeded, some
2:20:25
Speaker 1: succeeded really really well, some of them failed, some succeeded
2:20:29
Speaker 1: really really well, and then not so much, you know,
2:20:32
Speaker 1: And with all those varieties, with all those variations, you know,
2:20:39
Speaker 1: I stayed friends with my partners and a relationship has
2:20:43
Speaker 1: always been good, and we've always settled whatever differences we've had,
2:20:46
Speaker 1: and we've never it's never been the case that there's something,
2:20:53
Speaker 1: you know, the business and even when we disagreed has
2:20:56
Speaker 1: led to some kind of fracture and some kind of conflict.
2:21:01
Speaker 1: But I don't have a specific concrete that just comes
2:21:05
Speaker 1: to mind. Those are the kind of things I have
2:21:07
Speaker 1: to think about and prepare for. I can't just pull
2:21:10
Speaker 1: out of no way, pull out of my mind. So
2:21:13
Speaker 1: not out of no way, Marius. Isn't it frustrating that
2:21:16
Speaker 1: the free falling that the free falling Ryle will mostly
2:21:24
Speaker 1: likely not yield the free banking error in Iran or
2:21:27
Speaker 1: the free falling real will like they not yield a
2:21:30
Speaker 1: free falling free banking error in Iran in the end,
2:21:33
Speaker 1: because too many advocates for it. No, not really I mean, good, look,
2:21:38
Speaker 1: I mean that would be an ideal. But I am
2:21:41
Speaker 1: so happy that there's a potential for the Ranians to
2:21:45
Speaker 1: be somewhat free, that the lack of free banking is
2:21:53
Speaker 1: not going to diminish that. That is going from a
2:21:56
Speaker 1: theocracy too, you know, the semi freedom of the Western world.
2:22:01
Speaker 1: There's such a big leap that I'm willing. You know,
2:22:06
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna be depressed or frustrated
2:22:12
Speaker 1: by the fact that they haven't gone the whole way
2:22:14
Speaker 1: to the point of a free banking system. It's too bad,
2:22:19
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna let that frustrate me. Why do
2:22:24
Speaker 1: you think many try to find meaning in belonging to
2:22:27
Speaker 1: a group? Is the underlying issue related to loneliness? Loneliness epidemic? Well,
2:22:32
Speaker 1: I mean that's related to the unthinking epidemic. That's related
2:22:36
Speaker 1: to a distrust in reason and therefore emotionalism, which leads
2:22:40
Speaker 1: the failure, which leads to fear and group some means
2:22:44
Speaker 1: by which one can find safety and meaning. You know,
2:22:50
Speaker 1: I think people don't know how to find meaning in
2:22:53
Speaker 1: their own life. They don't know how to view life
2:22:56
Speaker 1: as meaning in and of itself, and therefore they look
2:23:04
Speaker 1: for something different, They and again fear because they don't know,
2:23:07
Speaker 1: They don't know what the meaning of the life is,
2:23:09
Speaker 1: and fear drives them towards the group, the tribe. All right,
2:23:14
Speaker 1: last few questions. Why didn't Islamic ideology integrate into Uranian
2:23:18
Speaker 1: society just like the Palestinians and Hamas because the Iranians
2:23:30
Speaker 1: have not taken on a victimhood perspective that the Palestinians have.
2:23:35
Speaker 1: Uh Iran has a certain Uranians have a certain level
2:23:39
Speaker 1: of confidence that comes from a history and a tradition
2:23:46
Speaker 1: of civilization, of great achievements in their past when they
2:23:51
Speaker 1: you know, even when they were Muslim, but not you know,
2:23:55
Speaker 1: from pre Islam, and then from Islam, but not theocratic Islam.
2:24:02
Speaker 1: They've known secularism, They've known a golden age of Islam.
2:24:07
Speaker 1: They know their history. There are people with a history
2:24:11
Speaker 1: that know their history, and they don't view themselves as victims,
2:24:15
Speaker 1: and they have a sense of we can do better,
2:24:19
Speaker 1: life could be better, whereas the Palestinians have been maad
2:24:26
Speaker 1: in self pity and in victimhood, which the Uranians the've
2:24:32
Speaker 1: een based on. The Palestinians don't have a history, they
2:24:36
Speaker 1: don't have anything to look at and say we've done
2:24:41
Speaker 1: better in the past. They have nothing, Alexis, and that
2:24:50
Speaker 1: speech from Garfield at the end of the movie was fantastic. Yes,
2:24:54
Speaker 1: it's one of the great speeches of all time. I
2:24:57
Speaker 1: love that speech, best financed speech ever. Thank you, Alexis.
2:25:02
Speaker 1: I'm glad you enjoyed it, Kim. Christianity places an importance
2:25:06
Speaker 1: on order. Is there something to order that we should
2:25:10
Speaker 1: value or take into consideration? Yeah, I mean order is important.
2:25:14
Speaker 1: Chaos is bad. But what we want is the order
2:25:19
Speaker 1: that comes from freedom, not the order that comes from oppression.
2:25:24
Speaker 1: The order that comes from self respecting individuals pursuing their values,
2:25:29
Speaker 1: respecting the rights of others to do the same. That
2:25:32
Speaker 1: produces an order that is beautiful. You know, you could
2:25:36
Speaker 1: call it spontaneous order, but I don't think it's spontaneous
2:25:39
Speaker 1: in that sense. It's an order that comes from individuals
2:25:43
Speaker 1: who value value. And you know that's the kind of order.
2:25:55
Speaker 1: Christianity is an order that is imposed from the top.
2:25:58
Speaker 1: We reject order in posts on the top. We want
2:26:01
Speaker 1: order that is an organic part of individuals living their lives.
2:26:07
Speaker 1: Blue Cell says, You're awesome, You're on thank you Blue,
2:26:10
Speaker 1: so really appreciate that. And who says one reason altruism
2:26:13
Speaker 1: is anti honesty is because one has to pretend one's
2:26:17
Speaker 1: main purpose in life is to help others. Yes, ultimately, absolutely,
2:26:21
Speaker 1: you know, altruism requires evasion. There's so many contradictions in it.
2:26:26
Speaker 1: You have to help others, but who do they have
2:26:28
Speaker 1: to help? And the people they help, who do they
2:26:30
Speaker 1: have to help? And you know, where does it end?
2:26:32
Speaker 1: Where does the sacrifice end? Who is the ultimate beneficiary
2:26:35
Speaker 1: of the sacrifice. That is such an obvious contradiction in
2:26:39
Speaker 1: altruism that nobody wants to face. Linda, When and how
2:26:44
Speaker 1: did you discover objectivism? How wonderful that you became one
2:26:46
Speaker 1: of the leading intellectuals. I think I've told this story
2:26:51
Speaker 1: many many times. I discovered objectives And when a friend
2:26:54
Speaker 1: I was a socialist nationalist, you know, back in Israel.
2:27:00
Speaker 1: This is nineteen seventy seven. I was sixteen and a
2:27:04
Speaker 1: friend of mine we were talking. I said, wait, are
2:27:06
Speaker 1: you getting this capitalist nonsense? Fomb And he said, you
2:27:09
Speaker 1: got to read this book? And he hand me a
2:27:10
Speaker 1: copy of Thattler Shrugged and I read out the shock
2:27:13
Speaker 1: and that was it. I mean, it took me months
2:27:16
Speaker 1: to read that the Shark because I disagreed with it.
2:27:18
Speaker 1: I argued with it, I yelled, and I ran. I
2:27:21
Speaker 1: threw the book on the wall because it challenged everything
2:27:25
Speaker 1: I believed in. And by the end of the book,
2:27:27
Speaker 1: she had won and I was defeated, and I embraced
2:27:34
Speaker 1: her ideas and then went on a search to try
2:27:38
Speaker 1: to understand the philosophy more fully. And that search led
2:27:41
Speaker 1: me to where I am today. Thank you Linda. All Right, guys,
2:27:46
Speaker 1: thank you. I am off. I think dinner calls. I'm hungry,
2:27:51
Speaker 1: and I will see oh members, members, members tomorrow. There's
2:27:58
Speaker 1: a members only show we are reading. We are talking
2:28:02
Speaker 1: about Toughishiness without a self. Don't miss it. It should
2:28:05
Speaker 1: be really cool. Andrew, this one's particularly good, I think,
2:28:07
Speaker 1: for you. And let's see what else. Monday, I'll be
2:28:13
Speaker 1: interviewing Gina Golin. I know many of you ask me
2:28:17
Speaker 1: to interview Gina again, so Gina will be here on Monday,
2:28:21
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2:28:24
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