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First day of joint practice with Falcons | Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, August 24 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Try John with Ashlyn Sulim, John Oceans,
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Speaker 1: Bryan Sexton. Jangs Drive starts right now. Welcome in the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time. We are live on a Wednesday morning.
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Speaker 1: We are in Georgia getting ready for a joint practice
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Speaker 1: with the Atlanta Falcons. We are staying at a chateau.
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Speaker 1: What city are we in again, Brazzleton, not Atlanta, but
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Speaker 1: this is a chateau of sorts and this is where
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Speaker 1: we belong city day Death say chateau. Oh yes, yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: we're very fancy at a chateau. We will be staying here.
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Speaker 1: To pay for your dinner last night, I don't want
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Speaker 1: to bring it up. It was a salmon. It was
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Speaker 1: forty four dollars. Fine. The ice coffee was eight dollars
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Speaker 1: this morning. But like I said, I deserve it. But
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Speaker 1: no tip. Slan got out of it. I rounded up
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Speaker 1: to absolutely will she orders room service and they attack
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Speaker 1: on the eighteen percent plus the tax. It's gonna be
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Speaker 1: eighty dollars for chicken dinners. Okay, that's all right. We
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Speaker 1: had a lot of transactions yesterday. Before you do that,
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Speaker 1: can I stop you quick? I just want to say something,
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Speaker 1: uh Len Dawson Hall of Fame quarterback died last night. Um,
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Speaker 1: and I feel and it's gratitude because over the summers
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Speaker 1: that I was going to the University of Kansas and
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Speaker 1: growing up in Kansas City, I got to spend some
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Speaker 1: time with him, and I just I don't want to
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Speaker 1: let it pass because he came into the league in
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Speaker 1: the NFL in the fifties with the Steelers and then
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Speaker 1: went to the Texans, the original Dallas Texans back in
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Speaker 1: sixty two they became the Chiefs. He started in Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl one was the Super Bowl four m v P
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Speaker 1: for the Chiefs. Retired with, you know, near the top
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Speaker 1: of the league in passing yards in seventy seven at
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Speaker 1: aged So he was I mean, he was old at
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Speaker 1: a time where quarterbacks didn't necessarily get old. But he
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Speaker 1: went into the Hall of Fame twice, wants as a player,
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Speaker 1: and wants as a Pete Roselle Award winner. So a
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Speaker 1: tremendous man. And some of you may remember that he
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Speaker 1: was a longtime host of Inside the NFL, which used
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Speaker 1: to be on HBO. So a tremendous quarterback and even
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Speaker 1: better human being. And you can't let guys like that
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Speaker 1: pass without acknowledging what they meant to the NFL and
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Speaker 1: do a lot of individuals personally. He was always so
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Speaker 1: good to me. Absolutely, thank you for that. Brian thoughts
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Speaker 1: to his family. Let's get into big thing, one big
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Speaker 1: thing one his transaction, some ross move being made yesterday
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Speaker 1: releasing kicker Ryan Santoso and signing quarterback Jake Louton along
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Speaker 1: with a new kicker. Coach Peterson on why they needed
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Speaker 1: to add that quarterback this week, I just want to
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Speaker 1: get healthy, you know. Um it just looked and appeared
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Speaker 1: on film and during the game the other night that
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Speaker 1: he wasn't necessarily hundred percent come off his injury from
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Speaker 1: the spring, and this gives him a time to time
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Speaker 1: to get healthy. And then again it's a it's a
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Speaker 1: great opportunity for Jake, you know, to get some more
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Speaker 1: time and to be seen in some valuable rep so, um,
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Speaker 1: you know, hopefully he can take advantage of that big
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Speaker 1: thing too. Is a j rob update Waiting for running
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Speaker 1: back James Robinson to do more on the feeling we
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Speaker 1: might see that this week. He will not play in Atlanta,
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Speaker 1: but getting ready for Week one, hopefully against Washington. Fingers
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Speaker 1: Cross coach Peterson on the running back James. He's not
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Speaker 1: necessarily full clear, but he's clear to practice. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: increase his reps. You'll see an orange jersey on him.
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Speaker 1: I spoke with Arthur you know Smith um this morning
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Speaker 1: about that, you know, so they'll be aware of him
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Speaker 1: and just try to limit the amount of touches. And finally,
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Speaker 1: big thing three is the quarterback Big week sort of
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Speaker 1: for quarterback Trevor Lawrence. It will be a big day
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Speaker 1: for him today and tomorrow in joint practice. Peop will
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Speaker 1: not see him in the game on Saturday, by coach Peterson.
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Speaker 1: Please with the way he is progressing and training camp.
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Speaker 1: He did, he did. Um. You know, one thing I
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Speaker 1: like about Trevor's where he's at two is he's still
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Speaker 1: he's still growing, he's still learning. You know. The hardest
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Speaker 1: thing is, you know, he's three head coaches, three coordinators,
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Speaker 1: three position coaches in three years and and so there's
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Speaker 1: been a lot of turnover and change and he's really
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Speaker 1: handled it extremely well, very mature, um, you know, and
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Speaker 1: it's just still a work in progress. But you know,
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Speaker 1: we go slow. He understands, you know, even when we
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Speaker 1: show him on tape he's doing and or what he's
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Speaker 1: not doing, and um he makes the corrections and and
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Speaker 1: and moves on. So yeah, I'm I'm encouraged by where
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Speaker 1: he's at right now. And there you have it. That
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Speaker 1: as big things. As we get ready for a joint
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Speaker 1: practice this afternoon with the Falcons practice starting at one o'clock,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from coordinators before that, Trevor Lawrence after practice,
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Speaker 1: and a lot of news for a Tuesday. And you
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Speaker 1: can say, okay, well, what does this mean for quarterback
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Speaker 1: Jake Luton coming back? It seems to me like c J.
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Speaker 1: Bethort most likely they've seen enough and they don't want
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Speaker 1: him to play. But they don't want him to play
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Speaker 1: because he's still coming back from me growing injury. It
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Speaker 1: sounds to me like we've seen the last of c. J.
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Speaker 1: Bethort until next o t A. Because you don't want
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Speaker 1: to see him during the regular season unless the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: are up forty five nothings, you're gonna see him neeling
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Speaker 1: a lot. Uh. This was clearly a move not to
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Speaker 1: knock Jake Luton. It's a mood bring bring Jake Luton
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Speaker 1: in so that he and E. J. Perry can handle
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Speaker 1: snaps on Saturday, and then unfortunately Jake will probably be
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Speaker 1: sent on his way. But this is a good chance
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Speaker 1: for him to get tape. As Doug Peterson said, it's
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Speaker 1: all part of the process for young quarterback trying to
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Speaker 1: make it in a lead. When we last saw j Gluten,
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Speaker 1: we thought, no, there's a promising guy. Uh and then
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Speaker 1: he was gone last year, came back this year and
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Speaker 1: I thought, all right, he had a nice couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks of training camp, but then when he got onto
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Speaker 1: the game field, it didn't translate. So for him, this
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Speaker 1: is another opportunity, knowing that he's not going to be here,
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Speaker 1: to at least go out and put a little something
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Speaker 1: on tape, to get invited to a camp when someone
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Speaker 1: gets injured. And even more news, the Jaguars sign a
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Speaker 1: new kicker from the Chargers. Let Ryan Santos go. They
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Speaker 1: signed an offensive lineman this morning. Who is here today,
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Speaker 1: cole Van Lannon from the Packers. We're going to see
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Speaker 1: him at joint practice. The kicker thing everyone wants to
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Speaker 1: talk about. Everyone's to pay attention from mcquoinas and Fort
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Speaker 1: Lauderdale revolving kicker door. You just won't want to stick. Well,
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Speaker 1: this is the fourth kicker in um, it's not that
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Speaker 1: unusual to do this. Doug Peterson, I thought I had
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Speaker 1: the money quote on this yesterday. In two thousand seventeen,
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Speaker 1: they tried out six kickers week. One of the Eagles
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Speaker 1: named Escaping me On who eventually stuck. He's still the
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Speaker 1: kicker there. Uh So you know, look, the Jaguars over
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Speaker 1: the course of their history have been fortunate to have
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Speaker 1: a lot of stability at the kicker position. Right now
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Speaker 1: they don't. Doug Peterson has been through this before. You
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Speaker 1: can bring a kicker in late and have him be fine.
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Speaker 1: James McCourt will see he had eight field goals. There
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Speaker 1: are fifty yards in Illinois, big leg. Let's see if
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Speaker 1: he's the guy right now. There's only one, so right
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Speaker 1: now he is the guy. I don't worry about it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you'll recall in Scott Sisson, the Georgia Tech product,
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Speaker 1: was the kicker for the Jaguars, and a kid named
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Speaker 1: my College showed up a little bit into training camp
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Speaker 1: and then went on to leave after the two thousand
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Speaker 1: one season. As you're all time leading scores, so you
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Speaker 1: can find these guys and they're generally guys like mccoord
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Speaker 1: who are coming in couldn't win the job where they
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Speaker 1: were competing, found a spot where they were needed. You
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Speaker 1: don't want this to be a revolving door, but until
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Speaker 1: you find the right guy, you need it to be right.
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Speaker 1: So now is the time to do that. Uh. Something
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Speaker 1: about James Robinson. I talked to Doug Peterson about it
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Speaker 1: last week and he said that, you know, medical advances
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Speaker 1: in technology had taken an injury that used to be
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Speaker 1: something very long a year right rehabilitation and has shortened
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Speaker 1: the window to about eight to nine months. And you
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Speaker 1: heard him say he has been cleared to practice. He's
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Speaker 1: not fully cleared. I do think people need to remember,
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Speaker 1: you know, cam Akers did it last year for the
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams, right, but he wasn't the same cam
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Speaker 1: Akers before he got hurt. Now they expect him to
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Speaker 1: be this year. So if people are expecting to see
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Speaker 1: James Robinson in Week one in Washington looking like the
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Speaker 1: James Robinson of old, hold on pump the brakes on
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Speaker 1: that one. He may be back and able to help you.
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Speaker 1: But it may be all season before we start to
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Speaker 1: see that James Robinson again. It's still a major injury
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Speaker 1: and one that requires plenty of patience, right, And that's
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Speaker 1: the biggest thing when we hear all these updates and
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Speaker 1: I see it all over Twitter, and a lot of
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Speaker 1: it is because of Fantasy football, and they say, oh,
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Speaker 1: James Robin's gonna play Week one. That's a huge win
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Speaker 1: for him to even dress. I mean, could you imagine
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Speaker 1: of saying that last December that he was going to
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Speaker 1: play Week one. Yeah, I think you'll be disappointed if
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Speaker 1: that's what your expectation is. It's good you'll see him
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Speaker 1: at some point this season. If his rehabilitation is going
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Speaker 1: the way that it looks, you'll see him start to
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Speaker 1: look like the old James Robinson. But it'll be before
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Speaker 1: we see that guy back herring the bolt five times
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Speaker 1: a game and playing to the standard that he's said here.
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Speaker 1: I'm also not sure that in this offense, even if
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Speaker 1: he is the James Robinson of old, that you necessarily
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Speaker 1: need him carrying twenty five times a game. You have
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Speaker 1: Travis c t N and it's gonna be a shared backfield.
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Speaker 1: That's what Doug Peterson likes. I think I think James
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Speaker 1: Robinson can come in and contribute early and be involved
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Speaker 1: with this offense with what they want. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if it's with the fantasy football people who expect based
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Speaker 1: on what James Robinson was in in twenty one. And
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Speaker 1: let's quickly touch on big thing three, which is Trevor Lawrence.
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Speaker 1: This is really the last two days we're going to
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Speaker 1: see the starters for two weeks. Coach Peterson said, Trevor
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Speaker 1: Lawrence won't play. C J. Bethro won't play, James Robinson
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Speaker 1: won't play. He's only gonna play starters if it's an
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Speaker 1: emergency situation. We're gonna see Devon Lloyd today, and it
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Speaker 1: sounds like Devon Lloyd might play the Saturday as well. Well.
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Speaker 1: I think it's a big week for Devon Lloyd, not
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Speaker 1: to determine whether he's going to be good or not,
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Speaker 1: not to determine whether he'll start. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: he'll start week one, but he's going to be the
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Speaker 1: starters soon and later. But as Doug said yesterday, it's
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Speaker 1: a good week to see where he is, how far
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Speaker 1: behind he is. And I've been getting questions like this
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Speaker 1: all the time. How much is this going to hurt him? Well,
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Speaker 1: you don't know, because it's all based on the player.
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Speaker 1: He may come back and be fine. He may be
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Speaker 1: a guy who can adabt very quickly. You just don't know.
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Speaker 1: These two days. I would think or is important for
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Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd as they are for anybody on the roster,
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Speaker 1: maybe maybe outside the right tackles still competing, maybe outside
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Speaker 1: the interior offensive alignment, but it's big for devn Lloyd.
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Speaker 1: Bryan Well. They can be patient with him though, because
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Speaker 1: you know, we talked about Trevor the other day. You
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Speaker 1: know you have an eighteen years sort of perspective on him.
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Speaker 1: He hasn't started eighteen games. I mean, this guy is
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Speaker 1: built to be a player for you for a decade.
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Speaker 1: So if it takes him a little bit longer, you're
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Speaker 1: still impatient. Remember when Leonard pop the hamstring in New
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Speaker 1: York on opening Day and then it just lingered all season.
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Speaker 1: He was never the same. It crushed the offense because
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Speaker 1: they were built to use play action with play bordles.
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Speaker 1: He didn't have that. It fell apart fast. We all
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Speaker 1: know the outcome. The defense is not going to be
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Speaker 1: in that situation if they don't have Devin Lloyd the
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Speaker 1: first month of the season. I'm just throwing four weeks
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Speaker 1: out there. If it takes that long. If he's ready
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Speaker 1: to go today, play him a little bit Saturday, then
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Speaker 1: he's got two more weeks to be ready for the
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Speaker 1: opening day. But if he's not ready for opening day,
10:19
Speaker 1: you know what's the long view? Have the long view,
10:22
Speaker 1: kind of like your stock portfolio. Don't be looking at
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Speaker 1: it every day thinking when when, when right? Just keep buying, buying, buying, buying,
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Speaker 1: and eventually it'll pay off. These guys are freak athletically.
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Speaker 1: It would not surprise me if he's a rare breed
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Speaker 1: who comes back and it's very good, very quickly. He
10:39
Speaker 1: just feels like that guy to me. It's worth saying that,
10:40
Speaker 1: you know what, he's my guy for. I'm gonna hold
10:44
Speaker 1: off because I got a couple of thoughts from him
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Speaker 1: on him from draft weekend. People want to talk to um,
10:49
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold off, but you're exactly right. You are right,
10:51
Speaker 1: and you can get by as well. With a Chad
10:53
Speaker 1: Muma shot quarterback quarterman. You can buy some time if
10:55
Speaker 1: it's not weak one. And that is big things. When
10:57
Speaker 1: we come back on Jaguars Drive Times, some of this
11:00
Speaker 1: of that on the Jaguars Digital Network, we're back to
11:06
Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time on Wednesday morning, live from Georgia getting
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Speaker 1: ready for joint practice, and we have this or that,
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Speaker 1: presented by Price dot Com Brian Sexton. What do you
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Speaker 1: got for us? Well? Are you worried about all the
11:17
Speaker 1: little details? Right? Are you gonna worry about those things?
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Speaker 1: Or are you just gonna be patient and wait till
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Speaker 1: the start of the regular season we can on Monday
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Speaker 1: right now. I don't mean worried as in you don't
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Speaker 1: pay attention to them, but are you going to be
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Speaker 1: that fan who says, my god, I can't take this.
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Speaker 1: This is exactly what we've seen for years? Or are
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Speaker 1: you going to be patient? Right? What worries you more?
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Speaker 1: A You're gonna worry they're going to be a And
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying is, um, I'm gonna I'm gonna go
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Speaker 1: for the side of patients and wait for the story
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Speaker 1: of the regular season because they aren't game planning, they're
11:52
Speaker 1: looking at cards right. Uh, They're not playing anybody on
11:56
Speaker 1: Saturday anyway. And I just I have faith, I guess
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Speaker 1: is my thought in this offensive system and what Doug
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Speaker 1: Peterson has done with it before and the coaching staff
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Speaker 1: listening to them talk about Mike McCoy, Press Taylor, Jim
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Speaker 1: Bob Cooter, these guys who were here tasked with the
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Speaker 1: responsibility of putting all the pieces in place. Um, I
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Speaker 1: don't think they're worried, so I don't think it's worth
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Speaker 1: worrying about. I guess if I hadn't seen them be
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Speaker 1: effective most of the preseason, I'd be worried too. I
12:24
Speaker 1: don't necessarily get what the worry is about. From an
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Speaker 1: offense that's had the ball seven times the first team,
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Speaker 1: they've scored five of them. They've had first downs on
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Speaker 1: six of those drives. They've got themselves in position to score.
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Speaker 1: That's a dramatic improvement from what it was. I uh.
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Speaker 1: I guess if it had been five games and they
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Speaker 1: were having these troubles in the red zone, so to speak,
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Speaker 1: or it was an offense that had been around for
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Speaker 1: two or three years. I uh, I frankly don't get
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Speaker 1: the where I wrote it and knows them an answer today.
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Speaker 1: Can we at least let them really be bad before
12:55
Speaker 1: we criticize, I mean it's at some point, yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think week one after the Commanders, if you still
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Speaker 1: see the same warries, all right, but even then so
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Speaker 1: John's so right, it's a dramatic improvement from last year.
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Speaker 1: Or what what are you expecting to see this big
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Speaker 1: change in the preseason? Well, again, I think you have
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Speaker 1: seen change in the preseason. They've been efficient. You see
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Speaker 1: Trevor making throws, you see them moving the ball. The
13:18
Speaker 1: good news is Doug gets it his first quote. I
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Speaker 1: asked him the question on Saturday night, assess the offense.
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Speaker 1: He said, not good enough. Well, he's right, from his perspective,
13:25
Speaker 1: is not good enough. But if you're looking for signs
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Speaker 1: that it's going in the right direction, it's good enough.
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Speaker 1: And you have Christian Kirk in the postgame locker room
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Speaker 1: saying you've seen nothing yet. We've shown nothing yet. Everyone
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Speaker 1: settled down, so we'll go with be but we'll still
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Speaker 1: worry about a fantastic h MR that is, uh, James
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Speaker 1: McCourt going to be the kicker or will it be
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Speaker 1: somebody else? I you know, I wish I had the answer.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. We haven't seen James McCourt yet. But
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Speaker 1: that's the million dollar question right now, that's the question
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Speaker 1: that all fans want to know it and understandably, so
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Speaker 1: right now you are what eight teen days before the
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Speaker 1: regular season, and you have a kicker who's never kicked
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Speaker 1: a ball for you. So I don't think it's unusual.
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Speaker 1: I think Doug's right now to be worried, but it's
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Speaker 1: sure a topic. I'd like to see this guy be
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Speaker 1: the kicker. Um I think we start seeing today. Um well,
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Speaker 1: I'm going with the St. Thomas Aquinas angle and that's
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Speaker 1: all like, it's what's your mask out there? I'm going
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Speaker 1: with that. I'm going with that affect. The fact that
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Speaker 1: he's an Illinois guy kicked in the big tent, probably
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Speaker 1: has kicked in lousy weather before. I'm grasping at straws here.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch him kick. I'm going with the kid
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Speaker 1: from Palm Beach. It's not Palm Beach. We're going to
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Speaker 1: find out. Yeah, you would hope that it is this
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Speaker 1: guy the seat because I do have hesitations. Say it's
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Speaker 1: joint practice, staying tomorrow, it's the game. Say it doesn't
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Speaker 1: pan out, okay, and he's not the guy. Well, this
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Speaker 1: is your last chance to really see a kicker in
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Speaker 1: game action before the regular season. Now you're trying out
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Speaker 1: guys in the indoor practice facility next week. It's not
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Speaker 1: the same. It's not ideal, but you keep doing it
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Speaker 1: until you find your guy, until you find your MICR. Also,
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Speaker 1: the other guys released that, I'm sure they have and
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Speaker 1: eye on guys around the league. I'm sure there's a
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Speaker 1: list of guys they can bring in. Um, I guess
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Speaker 1: if you hadn't seen it happened so often where guys
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Speaker 1: get brought in the week of and they're fine. Uh.
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Speaker 1: It is funny though. It's the one position where you
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Speaker 1: do that in Coaches really don't worry about it. If
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Speaker 1: this was a defensive tackle, defensive end, I think Dad
15:19
Speaker 1: would have a lot more angst. There is a feeling
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Speaker 1: a if a kicker can come in and kick, he's fine.
15:23
Speaker 1: Absolutely right. Let's go to another transaction from my this
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Speaker 1: sort that about the offensive line bringing in cole Van
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Speaker 1: Lannon this morning, he is in Atlanta. He will be
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Speaker 1: at joint practice day. From what we understand, he has
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Speaker 1: played tackle and guards. So this or that is Ben
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Speaker 1: Bartch or the new guy. And I don't want to
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Speaker 1: say that this guy's all of a sudden gonna come
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Speaker 1: over and start over Ben Bartch or maybe even Tyler
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Speaker 1: Shotley at the guard position. But I'm now wondering if
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Speaker 1: Ben Bartch is your starter, does that mean Tyler Shotley
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Speaker 1: swings to center and this new guy, cole Van Lannon
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Speaker 1: is your backup guard. It seems like they need depth
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Speaker 1: at guard at this point. Well, I think Shatley is
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Speaker 1: going to be the swing interior lineman like he always had.
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Speaker 1: Then I ain't. That's why he's had a place in
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Speaker 1: the lead. That's why they like him, That's why his
16:03
Speaker 1: job is secure. So I think he's that either way.
16:06
Speaker 1: I think the interesting thing is, is this guy being
16:08
Speaker 1: brought in to start over Ben bart We'll see. I
16:11
Speaker 1: don't think so. Talking to Phil Rouscher a few weeks ago,
16:14
Speaker 1: he just USh gushed, that's used confidence in Ben Barge.
16:19
Speaker 1: What I think you've got. My opinion, Tyler Shatley did
16:22
Speaker 1: not look like a guard right. He doesn't have great length,
16:24
Speaker 1: which is what you what you need on the offensive
16:27
Speaker 1: line to keep from getting bull rushed. I think he's
16:29
Speaker 1: a terrific backup center. I think what you're looking for
16:31
Speaker 1: as a guy who can be a backup guard and
16:34
Speaker 1: be another backup tackle for you think for all the
16:37
Speaker 1: swing guys you can find, because Will Richardson hasn't done
16:39
Speaker 1: anything to impress right. It's not like you look at
16:41
Speaker 1: him and go, well, we're set with him as being
16:43
Speaker 1: our fourth tackle. He's hurts so and you never know
16:46
Speaker 1: with that high ankle sprain, and it wasn't like he
16:48
Speaker 1: had won the job yet. So I look at this
16:51
Speaker 1: and think, Chatley is just gonna be your backup center.
16:53
Speaker 1: This guy is gonna come in and be your swing
16:55
Speaker 1: guard and swing tackle one. At this point with Tyler,
16:58
Speaker 1: it's important to remember we talked a couple of days
17:00
Speaker 1: ago about getting two locked into eleven positions on each
17:03
Speaker 1: side of the ball. Every team in the league if
17:06
Speaker 1: they don't have a version of Tyler Shatley, but I
17:08
Speaker 1: would love a version of Tyler Shallow because you have
17:11
Speaker 1: to have a guy at that spot. You don't want
17:13
Speaker 1: to be backing up guards, center guard with just one
17:17
Speaker 1: guy at he's position. You can't have all those guys
17:19
Speaker 1: active on game day. The fact that they have Tyler
17:21
Speaker 1: Shatley who can go in and they know he can play,
17:23
Speaker 1: that's huge for this team. And he he's key to
17:25
Speaker 1: this even if he's not one of the eleven and
17:27
Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen, when Brandon Linder was was sick,
17:30
Speaker 1: was injured, whatever that was, he was gone for a month.
17:33
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have made the playoffs without Tyler Shatley. And
17:35
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years when Brandon Linder couldn't play,
17:38
Speaker 1: Shatley win and you didn't miss it. But he didn't
17:40
Speaker 1: look like a guard. He just didn't no offense to him.
17:43
Speaker 1: But when he was on the field as a guard,
17:45
Speaker 1: he's a backup center. Yeah, and now you don't worry
17:46
Speaker 1: about he's incredibly valuable to you because you've got a
17:50
Speaker 1: rookie starting at center. Also, Yes, absolutely a lot of
17:54
Speaker 1: instability with Bill Richardson Jr. Right now, high ankle sprain,
17:56
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, to not make the trip to Atlanta,
17:58
Speaker 1: so we don't really know what's going on there. Seems
18:00
Speaker 1: this guy needs much out of depth to the offensive line,
18:02
Speaker 1: and that is the storry that when we come back,
18:04
Speaker 1: more to talk about with the joint practice with the
18:05
Speaker 1: Falcons coming up on the Jaguars Digital Network. We're back
18:11
Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time Wednesday morning, live from Georgia at the
18:14
Speaker 1: Team Hotel, getting ready for a joint practice with the
18:16
Speaker 1: Falcons at one o'clock this afternoon and matchups to watch
18:20
Speaker 1: for today because this is really the most beneficial part
18:22
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars is these joint practices against another starting
18:26
Speaker 1: team in the NFL. So, Brian, what do you paying
18:28
Speaker 1: attention to Devin Lloyd versus anybody? I don't care what
18:31
Speaker 1: the matchup is. And we talked a little bit earlier
18:32
Speaker 1: about getting him out there checking out the hamstring. You know,
18:36
Speaker 1: you hear when guys are injured. You know, mental reps
18:38
Speaker 1: are getting mental reps. But that's not the same You
18:41
Speaker 1: need him out on the field. However, here's a quick story.
18:43
Speaker 1: So on draft weekend, I was in Las Vegas and
18:46
Speaker 1: I was set up right next to the Big twelve Network,
18:48
Speaker 1: and Kyle Whittingham, who's the head coach at Utah where
18:50
Speaker 1: Devin played, told me a story before I went on.
18:53
Speaker 1: He said, this is a guy who would go into
18:55
Speaker 1: the weight room after practice, go eat, and then go
18:58
Speaker 1: watch two hours of tape, and then on his way home,
19:01
Speaker 1: would call his teammates and explain what the game plan
19:04
Speaker 1: was based on the film that he had watched, and
19:07
Speaker 1: literally to the point where he was telling safeties and
19:09
Speaker 1: corners with their responsibilities were in certain coverages. He is,
19:13
Speaker 1: besides being, as John mentioned, a freak athlete, and a
19:16
Speaker 1: guy who had eight sacks four interceptions to return for touchdowns.
19:21
Speaker 1: This is he was the College Football Player of the
19:23
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. And there were all these
19:25
Speaker 1: studs up the road here at um At Georgia and
19:28
Speaker 1: over in Alabama, and it was Devin Lloyd. So I
19:31
Speaker 1: get all that. Um, I'm anxious to see him play.
19:34
Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he doesn't
19:36
Speaker 1: come out and make an impact early this season where
19:39
Speaker 1: you're as excited about him as we have been about
19:41
Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker. I think it's significant to the defense has
19:44
Speaker 1: been good even without him so far. But my matchup
19:49
Speaker 1: to watch is Marvin Jones, h Za Jones, and even
19:53
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk a little bit. He'll be more inside against
19:56
Speaker 1: the Falcons cornerbacks A J. Terrell and uh Casey Hayward.
20:00
Speaker 1: These are two of the best of the league. If
20:02
Speaker 1: the Falcons have his strength on their roster, it's these
20:05
Speaker 1: two guys. Um, I'm not gonna go overboard. You know,
20:08
Speaker 1: if one side or the other wins or loses battles today,
20:11
Speaker 1: but you'd like to see these guys be able to
20:13
Speaker 1: make plays against these two guys. It's certainly if there's
20:17
Speaker 1: a matchup of high profile guy versus high profile guy
20:20
Speaker 1: right today, this is it. I don't know whether they
20:22
Speaker 1: read it or not, but I was on the Athletic
20:24
Speaker 1: website this morning and the Athletic Stories says Jaguars and
20:26
Speaker 1: Trevor Lords still don't have a number one receiver that
20:29
Speaker 1: would motivate need to go out here against Atlanta and
20:32
Speaker 1: and try to create the perception that hey, I'm number one.
20:35
Speaker 1: All three of them, I'm number one, right and get
20:38
Speaker 1: that separation because they enjoin practice absolutely alright. My matchup
20:41
Speaker 1: to watch is tight end Kyle Pitts versus really anyone
20:44
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars defense, you name it, cornerback, safety's, linebackers.
20:47
Speaker 1: The Jaguars do not have a tight end on the
20:49
Speaker 1: roster like Kyle Pitts. So they're getting all this great
20:52
Speaker 1: work throughout the whole sphere of training camp. But today,
20:55
Speaker 1: when you go up up against Kyle Pitts, you haven't
20:57
Speaker 1: seen that. There's no in the league, right, I mean,
20:59
Speaker 1: that's the this is great work. Special doesn't even begin
21:02
Speaker 1: to describe the guy. And you saw him on Monday
21:05
Speaker 1: Night football. I mean you can see for yourself. You
21:07
Speaker 1: don't want to explain it. The the chance to play
21:09
Speaker 1: against him on reps. Dont yeah, You're not necessarily gonna win, um,
21:15
Speaker 1: but if you are in the right position and the
21:17
Speaker 1: coach says, all right, yeah, alright, that's just a great
21:19
Speaker 1: throw to a guy who's six ft seven and you
21:21
Speaker 1: can't reach that fine right For someone like Tyson Cambo
21:24
Speaker 1: who's been going up against the Dan Arnold or Foia
21:26
Speaker 1: Loui Khan, this is the day to It's going to
21:29
Speaker 1: test your preparation for sure. Absolutely. I agree, you agree? Great?
21:33
Speaker 1: I always want one, do you degree? All right? That
21:35
Speaker 1: is Jaguars Drive time matchups to watch Day four joint
21:37
Speaker 1: practice and week come back more on the Jaguars Digital Network.
21:46
Speaker 1: We're getting ready for a Wednesday practice against the Falcons.
21:48
Speaker 1: You will hear from coordinators Press Taylor and Mike call
21:51
Speaker 1: Will at twelve for you. Before practice, you will hear
21:53
Speaker 1: from quarterback Trevor Lawrence at around three twenty. You can
21:55
Speaker 1: watch that all on Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars Social
21:58
Speaker 1: Media Live. John, what we got today? What Tevor Lawrence
22:01
Speaker 1: will be speaking? So uh, I'll suddenly write about him
22:04
Speaker 1: and I we'll all have our conservations from today so
22:06
Speaker 1: I always look forward to that, Brian, Sorry, what do
22:09
Speaker 1: you got? Um Working towards Saturday night final preseason broadcast
22:13
Speaker 1: of the year, and it's always the most challenging, UM Well,
22:17
Speaker 1: because you know you're gonna see a lot of Jake Luten,
22:19
Speaker 1: You're gonna see a lot of backup guys who are fighting,
22:21
Speaker 1: if not for a roster spot, to earn a spot
22:24
Speaker 1: on someone's practice squad. Right, most of these guys, if
22:26
Speaker 1: they don't on a roster spot in Jacksonville, are going
22:28
Speaker 1: to earn a roster spot in Los Angeles or Dallas
22:31
Speaker 1: or Houston or wherever. But they're fighting for a chance
22:34
Speaker 1: to stick with someone on a practice squad and find
22:36
Speaker 1: a way into the game. And with sixteen guys in
22:39
Speaker 1: the practice squad, a lot of the guys people are
22:41
Speaker 1: watching on Saturday will be around. And in this day
22:44
Speaker 1: and age, most of these guys wind up playing in
22:46
Speaker 1: the second half of the season for teams and and
22:48
Speaker 1: and there's a long list of guys who have gone
22:50
Speaker 1: on to very productive careers coming from a practice squad. Right.
22:53
Speaker 1: And while we joke that this game doesn't mean anything
22:56
Speaker 1: or it's boring today, it is everything. Absolutely so will
22:59
Speaker 1: pay it do beat the fourth preseason game, and why
23:02
Speaker 1: I'm here and why I'm working absolutely all right. That
23:04
Speaker 1: is Jaguar's Drivetime on a Wednesday. Practice coverage coming soon
23:07
Speaker 1: at Jaguars dot com. Will be back live with you
23:09
Speaker 1: at our show to show so polished from Palm Beach
23:16
Speaker 1: and all of that right, and yet here you are
23:18
Speaker 1: just a normal kid or can here live on the
23:21
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