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Will President Trump open the Strait of Hormuz? · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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  Speaker 1: I'm Hugh hewittt picking off the show with Matt Continetti,
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  Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal columnist, head of Domestic Policy Studies at
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  Speaker 1: the American Enterprise Institute. Our guests at least once a week.
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  Speaker 1: We like it when he's here twice a week. But
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  Speaker 1: it's Tuesday, and I would like him to translate what
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  Speaker 1: President Trump told me yesterday. He can translate Trump. Are
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  Speaker 1: we in a ceasefire or not? Matt Continetti.
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  Speaker 2: We are in a ceasefire that Donald Trump wants to
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  Speaker 2: maintain for as long as possible, Hugh. But it's a
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  Speaker 2: ceasefire plus because our blockade of Iranian ports is still
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  Speaker 2: in place, and now we have Operation Freedom underway in
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  Speaker 2: order to secure that channel and escort help them navigate
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  Speaker 2: safely out of the strait of horror moves. So my
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  Speaker 2: read on what President Trump told you was he's going
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  Speaker 2: to try to keep what's happening in place for as
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  Speaker 2: long as he can. My worry is the Iranians are
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  Speaker 2: walking up that escalatory ladder step by step, and pretty
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  Speaker 2: soon I think President Trump will have to respond militarily
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  Speaker 2: to their provocations.
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  Speaker 1: Now, normally I get more than ninety minutes to prepare
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  Speaker 1: for the president, but they called up and he wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do it at five o'clock. And so you always
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  Speaker 1: say yes to the president. You blow everybody off, and
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  Speaker 1: you get as ready as you can during the breaks.
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  Speaker 1: So I thought I would do one thing, which is
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  Speaker 1: sell the idea that this Iran thing is going to
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  Speaker 1: define his presidency. And I really believe that. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's the most important thing he's done. And the Supreme
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  Speaker 1: Court is number two, and that's important domestically, but number
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  Speaker 1: one is taking this regime and making sure they never
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  Speaker 1: have nukes.
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  Speaker 3: Did that come through? Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I was paying a special attention during your interview, Hugh,
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  Speaker 2: to the exchange you had over what a possible negotiation
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  Speaker 2: might look like, and I was just struck by how
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  Speaker 2: adamant President Trump is that Iran will never obtain.
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  Speaker 4: A nuclear weapon.
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  Speaker 2: He used those words again and again to you. He
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  Speaker 2: also said that the highly enriched uranium, the nuclear dust,
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  Speaker 2: would have to leave Iran as any part of a deal.
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  Speaker 2: And then on two other planks of what you and
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  Speaker 2: I would like to see in any deal, miss oils
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  Speaker 2: and funding for proxies, the president he had some wiggle
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  Speaker 2: room there. He talked about limitations on missiles, and then
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  Speaker 2: he made I think the fair point to you that
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  Speaker 2: as hard pressed as Iran is right now militarily economically,
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  Speaker 2: they really don't have the funds to fund the proxies anyway.
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  Speaker 2: But he came back again and again Iran cannot have
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  Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon.
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  Speaker 4: That seems to be his mission.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I was also struck in the interview
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  Speaker 2: when he told you that he thought that stock market
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  Speaker 2: was in a tank at first when he launched Operation
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  Speaker 2: Epic Fury.
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  Speaker 3: It didn't.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, it's recovered substantially. But what that said to
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  Speaker 2: me is he's willing to pay a short term cost
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  Speaker 2: in terms of economics and also of course in terms
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  Speaker 2: of popularity, which are closely connected to economics, in order
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  Speaker 2: to achieve that long term goal of denuclearizing Iran.
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  Speaker 1: Now, do you trace that a lot of people. Pop
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  Speaker 1: psychologists suggest that people who are my age and older
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  Speaker 1: in that would include Donald Trump, are very much impacted
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  Speaker 1: by what happened in seventy nine and eighty the humiliation
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  Speaker 1: of it.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think that's what's.
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  Speaker 1: Driving him on Iran more than anything else, or the
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  Speaker 1: fact that, as he said in the interview, again, they're lunatics.
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  Speaker 3: They can't have nuclear They're not like Kim Jong un.
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  Speaker 1: He's got no afterworld to go to, he's got no theology.
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  Speaker 1: He just got kids. So he wants them to be dictators.
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  Speaker 1: He's not je he's not Putin. They've got kids, they
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  Speaker 1: want to be dictator. They're lunatics. And he's kind of
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  Speaker 1: got that in his head. And I like that.
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  Speaker 2: Because he's right, Well, the lunatics have been running Iran
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  Speaker 2: since nineteen seventy nine, since the revolution. And you're right
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  Speaker 2: to point out kind of where President Trump is in
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  Speaker 2: biography and history at that moment. When you look back
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  Speaker 2: and you see how hawkish President Trump has been about
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  Speaker 2: the Islamic Republic of Iran since the revolution, I think
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  Speaker 2: his views today are closely tied to the America's humiliation
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  Speaker 2: in that moment, and he's been a consistent Iran hawk
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  Speaker 2: since the nineteen eighties. He said in his very opening
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  Speaker 2: speech when he declared his candidacy in twenty fifteen for president,
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  Speaker 2: that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon. He's never
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  Speaker 2: wavered from that. And I think he's in a very
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  Speaker 2: good position right now when you have this blockade, which
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  Speaker 2: is crushing the Iranian economy and thus the ability of
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  Speaker 2: the regime to fund the ier GC, to fund the military,
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  Speaker 2: and you add to that this new Operation Freedom clearing
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  Speaker 2: away for vessels to exit the Street of Hermus and
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  Speaker 2: also to prove for the world that America is still
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  Speaker 2: going to guarantee this safe passage through the global commons
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  Speaker 2: of airscene space, as we have been doing for centuries.
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  Speaker 2: I think that we are denying Iran their last card
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  Speaker 2: to play, and we're setting ourselves up for the endgame
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  Speaker 2: with this regime in the coming weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Now, let's talk about what he didn't do, though he
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  Speaker 1: had many opportunities. Again, I just asked questions. I don't
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  Speaker 1: argue with presidents, but I give him opportunity to make
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  Speaker 1: a case for being as adamant as he has been
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  Speaker 1: about Iran. John pod Oritz said yesterday on the Commentary podcast,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't believe he can persuade anyone. I know, this
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  Speaker 1: was like a light bulb going on for me. I
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  Speaker 1: wish i'd heard it before i'd done the interview. He
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  Speaker 1: doesn't really spend a lot of time trying to persuade
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  Speaker 1: anyone because they're not persuadable because it's him. Do you
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  Speaker 1: buy John's argument that he just announces what he's going
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  Speaker 1: to do and he reinforced his base.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's something to that. I also believe, though, Hugh,
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  Speaker 2: that there is benefit for President Trump if he were
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  Speaker 2: to continue to outline the reasons for his policies and
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  Speaker 2: the necessity of disarming Iran and denying this regime and
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  Speaker 2: nuclear weapon. Because every time he's done it, whether it
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  Speaker 2: was in the State of the Union this year, whether
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  Speaker 2: it was in the video message he released at the
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  Speaker 2: start of Operation Epic Fury, whether it was in that
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  Speaker 2: televised address he gave from the White House just shortly
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  Speaker 2: before the ceasefire began last month. I think the public
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  Speaker 2: has responded favorably, and when you see polls that show,
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  Speaker 2: like the recent Harvard Harris poll, that the common sense
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  Speaker 2: of America is that we are winning this war and
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  Speaker 2: that's a necessary war. I think President Trump needs to
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  Speaker 2: build on that, and I hope and I expect Secretary
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  Speaker 2: of Rubio will do that from the White House podium
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  Speaker 2: today when he talks to the press as well. If
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  Speaker 2: you make that affirmative case Secretary of War Hegseth has
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  Speaker 2: been doing. I think that helps build support among the
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  Speaker 2: public and in Congress for the reasons we are pursuing
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  Speaker 2: this mission. And I think President Trump likes to act
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  Speaker 2: dramatically and then watches people rally behind him, and there's
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  Speaker 2: no question that he's done that. But this is also
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  Speaker 2: a moment for making that case consistently in order to
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  Speaker 2: get us through this final stages of the operation.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Duenna and I share a theory about the President
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  Speaker 1: and big crowds and the UDA loop observe, orient, decide,
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  Speaker 1: and act. We think that it's an information loop for
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  Speaker 1: him when he talks to a large crowd, and he
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  Speaker 1: talked to a couple of them in Florida last week
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  Speaker 1: and he brought out the lyntics line that got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of applause. And I've thought for ten years he
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  Speaker 1: tests his material out on big crowds, and if the
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  Speaker 1: crowds like something, he goes deeper into it. If they
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  Speaker 1: don't like something, he doesn't announce he's dismissing it, but
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't come back in the next speech, and it
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  Speaker 1: might drop down on his agenda.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think that might be?
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  Speaker 1: I think the American people like kicking the living daylights
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  Speaker 1: out of the mullas.
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  Speaker 3: I really think they do.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's absolutely a work. And he even said that
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  Speaker 2: to you in the interview where he said, Hugh, as
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  Speaker 2: you know, he said, well, I tried out these other lines,
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  Speaker 2: and I talked about how the great things are, and
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  Speaker 2: then I said that these people are lunatics and we
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  Speaker 2: can't let them have a nuclear weapon. And they really
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  Speaker 2: reacted well to that. So President Trump notices that. And look,
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  Speaker 2: right now we have a problem in America, which is
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  Speaker 2: Americans don't like paying high gas prices and they shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: like it. But what the President can do, and what
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  Speaker 2: he did in Florida is say that is a short
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  Speaker 2: term price to pay for the long term security of
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  Speaker 2: denying the Iranian regime a nuclear weapon and setting up
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  Speaker 2: the process by which the Iranian people can eventually remove
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  Speaker 2: that regime. If he keeps reminding the American people that
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  Speaker 2: that's the long term benefit, I think they'll be more
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  Speaker 2: willing to shoulder this short term sacrifice.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so now we go to rank speculation. Secretary Rubio
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  Speaker 1: is speaking this very hour about this, and I hope
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  Speaker 1: he talks about Popo Leo. President's not great forgiving of
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  Speaker 1: pop Leo is trying to mend the fence there yesterday
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  Speaker 1: it didn't work. The deal is who's got the ore
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  Speaker 1: in your opinion, Matt, is it Secretary Rubio or Vice
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  Speaker 1: President Vance on this? I mean Trump's got the is
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  Speaker 1: calling the cadence, but who's doing the rowing right?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it is interesting that Vice President Vance is in
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  Speaker 2: Ohio today and then also in Oklahoma City, I believe.
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  Speaker 2: So he's in the Midwest, he's in Middle America, and
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  Speaker 2: it's Secretary of Rubio who's going to be addressing the
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  Speaker 2: public from that huge stage of the White House press room.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that's a sign that Secretary Rubio has
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  Speaker 2: a lot of influence in this particular file, the Iran file,
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  Speaker 2: and a Secretary Vice President Vance. Rather, he's trying, I think,
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  Speaker 2: to make the case for the affordability agenda for the
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  Speaker 2: more domest the policy orientation of the administration. So I
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  Speaker 2: kind of lean in the direction of Rubio on this
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  Speaker 2: Iran question and the question of foreign policy more generally.
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  Speaker 1: I think we both do. Exit question. Matt, there's no
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  Speaker 1: Mickey D's around. You got to go to Wendy's at
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  Speaker 1: Burger King. Where do you go?
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  Speaker 2: Well, immediately after that, listening to the interview, I looked
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  Speaker 2: up who the head of Wendy's wash and now I
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  Speaker 2: understand why President Trump might have a beef with him.
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  Speaker 2: But I go to Berwick Burger King. I'm a burger guy.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know. I haven't looked it up yet.
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  Speaker 3: You're ahead of me. Now you go look it up.
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  Speaker 3: Matt Cottenetty, you beat me to my story. Well done.
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  Speaker 1: Follow him on Exit cont Netty. Listen to him tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: Thursday on the Commentary podcast. Read him in the Wall
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  Speaker 1: Street Journal. Thank you, Matt.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully we talk on Friday. I don't go anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Ashbrook of Ruthless is next American thing is Welcome Back America.
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  Speaker 1: Hugh Hewett joined now by John Ashbrook. He have Ruthless
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  Speaker 1: podcast fame. He's in the Ruthless which brings me to
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  Speaker 1: first question. You're a Cincinnati guys, you don't know any
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  Speaker 1: about professional basketball.
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  Speaker 3: You lost the Royals before you were born, right they
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  Speaker 3: were gone.
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  Speaker 4: We did lose them, big oh, big breaker.
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  Speaker 1: Said we gotta have we gotta have someone in the stands.
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  Speaker 1: Since then, I like basketball. So we have the Cavaliers
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  Speaker 1: against the Pistons tonight in Detroit. Pistons favored by two
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  Speaker 1: and a half. I don't bet period on sports, But
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  Speaker 1: who do you like in that game?
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  Speaker 4: I like the Calves, Hugh.
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  Speaker 5: The Pistons had that series with Orlando Magic that wins
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  Speaker 5: seven games, and it shouldn't have gone seven games, but
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  Speaker 5: it did because the Pistons are up and down and
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  Speaker 5: up and down. I think that the Cleveland Calves are
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  Speaker 5: a real team.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, it's all.
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  Speaker 5: A question of who gets to face off against Okac.
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  Speaker 4: In the finals, and I think I like Calves.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it was an ugly series against the Raptors, but
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  Speaker 1: they did beat the Canadian Are that good?
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  Speaker 3: Now? I want to make anything.
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  Speaker 1: About playing up in Detroit and then they're going to
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  Speaker 1: come back to Rocket Arena. I was at Washington National
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  Speaker 1: Stadium on Sunday. Do you go to ball games much too.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, you're to know I try to go to one
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  Speaker 5: Reds game a year when they come to DC.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've tried to the guard I went to memory games.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 5: Here's the thing about baseball this year, Hugh, I don't
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  Speaker 5: know if you noticed. I mean, I'm quite confident you're
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  Speaker 5: familiar with the with the.
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  Speaker 4: Standings in the al Central.
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  Speaker 3: Where they're all tied tie first thing. Yeah, the media, everyone.
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  Speaker 5: Since Sneddy Reds are having a great year. So I
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  Speaker 5: think there is an outside chance that we could be
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  Speaker 5: looking at an I seventy one World Series. You know,
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  Speaker 5: there were twenty years ago, thirty years ago that could
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  Speaker 5: have been a possibility.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe twenty twenty six is the year.
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  Speaker 1: We've got the pitching, but we got to get someone
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  Speaker 1: to hit more than two forty. So here's where I'm
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  Speaker 1: leading up to the stadium on Sunday, a beautiful Sunday
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  Speaker 1: afternoon was twenty five percent full because the Nats sucks.
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  Speaker 3: They're very bad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm thinking, Ruth, let's go on the road
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  Speaker 1: to do a promo for the Nats.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think you could draw a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people for them.
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  Speaker 4: You know, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 6: It would be.
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  Speaker 5: The other guys might be able to do it. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not sure Josh would be able to do it, although
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  Speaker 5: the Nats are in the National League, so his beloved
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  Speaker 5: Minnesota Twins would not be an issue. Every time I
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  Speaker 5: go to a Nationals game, all I can see is
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  Speaker 5: the Montreal Expos And I know it's been thirty years,
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  Speaker 5: but I hate the Expos and so I do not
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  Speaker 5: like the Washington Nationals.
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  Speaker 4: I really don't.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 5: One of my daughters played in a local league here
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  Speaker 5: and her team was the Nationals, and it just pained
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  Speaker 5: me every time she put on the curly w and.
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  Speaker 4: Look I got swept I got.
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  Speaker 5: Swept up in the fever postseason fever like everybody else.
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  Speaker 5: I'm ashamed to admit, back when they went to the
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  Speaker 5: World Series like five or six years ago.
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  Speaker 4: But I really don't like them.
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  Speaker 3: I just they do need some help.
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  Speaker 1: Because if it's May and your stadium on a beautiful
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  Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon, is that one out of four seats filled.
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  Speaker 1: That's not good. And they're not very good. They're a
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  Speaker 1: bad team, all right now. Third venue to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: I was at the Museum of the Bible last night
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  Speaker 1: for the screening of the story of Everything which is fabulous,
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  Speaker 1: The Story of Earth, The Fabulous documentary ninety minutes on
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  Speaker 1: Intelligent Design. I'm not going to suggest that the Rootless
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  Speaker 1: broadcast broadcast from the Museum of the Bible. I think
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  Speaker 1: that would actually be sacrilegious. I don't think that could
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  Speaker 1: actually happen. But have you ever been there?
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  Speaker 4: I have been there.
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  Speaker 5: I've been there more than once, and I think it
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  Speaker 5: is a really cool spot. And you say sacrilegious, I
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  Speaker 5: would say that nobody needs the Bible more than the
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  Speaker 5: people we got this podcast.
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  Speaker 3: They have a beautiful auditorium and I did not know this.
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  Speaker 1: I've been through a number of events there, but I
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  Speaker 1: have never been in the auditorium. Last night and they
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  Speaker 1: did a screening. There will be a Ruthless movie at
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  Speaker 1: some point. I don't know who's going to make it
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  Speaker 1: or what the plotline's going to be, but there will be.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the Beatles. They ever see Help? Are you
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  Speaker 1: young enough to ever seeing Help? The Beatles movie?
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  Speaker 4: I have not.
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  Speaker 5: But you know a lot of people say, you know,
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  Speaker 5: you guys like the Beatles.
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  Speaker 4: Or you know who's who from the.
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  Speaker 5: Beatles, But we think of ourselves a little bit more
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  Speaker 5: like the band. And of course there was a great
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  Speaker 5: documentary made, Oh Yes, about the band and their last concert,
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  Speaker 5: and I watch it probably three or four times a year.
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  Speaker 5: It really is just I highly recommence called the Last Waltz.
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  Speaker 5: It brings your blood pressure down instantly the second you
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  Speaker 5: turn that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a couple of great music documentaries on
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood in the sixties, The Music of the Valley, and
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  Speaker 1: it's Baiez and Mom and Mama, Cass and Mamas and
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  Speaker 1: the Papas and stuff like that. But the band is
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  Speaker 1: a little bit harder. The Dylan bit is very funny
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  Speaker 1: by Scorsese. I don't know if you've seen that, but
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  Speaker 1: you need a tour. Rush used to go out on tour.
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  Speaker 1: You're too young to remember.
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  Speaker 3: But he did the I remember, oh yah.
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  Speaker 1: Rush would go on tour and he would pack up
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  Speaker 1: auditoriums Rushed Excellence Tour.
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  Speaker 3: And they never made a movie out of that. He
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  Speaker 3: tried to do TV, but it was it was too
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  Speaker 3: early for him to do TV. They did know how
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  Speaker 3: to do Rush on TV, so that failed.
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  Speaker 1: But if you got a cameraman, you did like a
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  Speaker 1: twenty or thirty date tour, you could turn it it
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  Speaker 1: would be a movie.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just pitching here, John pitching, I'm thinking out loud here.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You know, if I told my wife that we were
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: thinking about a twenty or thirty date tour, she would
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: not love that.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: Just to be honest with you, Hugh. But the reason
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: that we always.
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: Don't have to worry about groupies.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah's that's right. I mean at least the under sixty
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: five set for sure. But like the the reason we
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: love the band so much is because everybody would come
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: and play with them. You mentioned Joan Bias, you mentioned
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: Bob Dylan. I mean, they every single person would come
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: and play a set with them. And that's what we
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: love about our show is because we bring in people
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: from all over the Republican Party and conservative intelligentsia and
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: you know, even some people who aren't a part of that,
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: and just get to hear them talk. And that's the
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: entire point of our show is just to have a conversation.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: So somebody comes in, they play their best, and it's
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: part of our show.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: No, I was live saying this morning, John, I did
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: not listen to Hammer yet because Hammer's on tomorrow and
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I don't want to.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: I want to listen to the Morning before she comes on.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: But I listened to you.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Talking about the poor nobody who running the DNCAE. His
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: name is Ken Martin, who happens to be from Minnesota
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: and represents everything that is Minnesota. Please tell Josh that
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: for me and you got a little bit into the
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Act Blue problem.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Are they toast? Do you think they're going to jail
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: at Act Blue?
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: I think they have real problems.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: I mean, if you read that New York Times story
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: that came out about a month ago where Covington and Berlin,
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: this is like the krem De la Creme of Democrat
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: aligned law firms that expressed their deep concern and a
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: memo to Act Blue that they weren't doing enough to
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: stop foreign donations from coming into the platform.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: I don't think they.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: Would have allowed that sort of a story to come
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: to fruition if they didn't think they had a real
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: problem on their hands. And so if the Wall Street
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: Journal story that came out earlier this week, I highly
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: recommend everybody go and read it. It strikes me as
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: sort of an inside the house attack on the person
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: who's running it. You know, litany of expenses and things
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: that she was spending money on that. You only get
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: that kind of story when somebody is dissatisfied with the leadership.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: And trying to throw them under the bus.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: And I'm not going to give the game away.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: But if if they listen to you and the fellows
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: dissect the podbros taking apart Ken Martin, they're going to
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: understand Albama is running this party and he's decided Ken
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Martin is good enough. Great episode today, the Ruthless Podcast.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Ashbrook, don't go anywhere America. He's written for
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the cap so he's a good man. I'll be right
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: back out, Liac.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: Take a load, take a load up.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: You put the mold right alone, right on.
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: But what the President is expressing, and I think how's repeatedly,
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: is he wished the Iranian people had You know, look,
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: he's heartbroken by the images.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: You think about it.
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: You're an Iranian, okay, You're unhappy that your economy doesn't
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: work for you. You don't have freedom, you don't have an
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: opportunity to express yourself. You know, you've got friends that
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: have been shot in the head because they're out protesting,
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: and he just it's heartbreaking to him to see that
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: these people are abused in this way and have no
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: measures to take it against their own government as a.
• 20:17
  Speaker 8: Result of it.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: By the way, this goes back.
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: If you guys remember the protest in two thousand and
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: nine where.
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: They slaughtered people in the street.
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: This is a vicious regime, guys.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: These are people that hang people from the cranes and
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: the town square. So everyone can see that they continue
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: these executions of people and have done continue to do
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: so for over a decade and a half now. And
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: so I think what the President is expressing is the
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: desire that he wishes the Iranian people had an ability
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: to fight back against some of these things that are
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: happening to them.
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: And I would view that as distinct.
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: And separate from the specifics of this operation that was
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: ongoing before it concluded, and certainly different from the operation
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: that's going on now.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Hid Secretary of Rubio at the lecter and in the
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: White House, I'm joined by David Docker has been there
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: a number of times. David, what importance if any of
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: you attached to Secretary Rubio did the briefing today while
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Vice President dancers in Ohio voting.
• 21:11
  Speaker 10: Well, it's interesting, but you know, Senator Senator Secretary of
• 21:15
  Speaker 10: State Marco Rubio has been probably the administration's best communicator
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: on foreign policy and military issues, including the Iran War,
• 21:26
  Speaker 10: and sometimes including the President, which I don't say to
• 21:31
  Speaker 10: make a slight of the President. I just I think
• 21:33
  Speaker 10: it shows you what the president values that he knows
• 21:37
  Speaker 10: that Rubio is really capable of communicating this well. And
• 21:41
  Speaker 10: I think we're in this place now where you know,
• 21:45
  Speaker 10: there are a lot of voters who either are supportive
• 21:47
  Speaker 10: or might be supportive of the war but are looking
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: for more information about it, and Rubio is just a
• 21:52
  Speaker 10: pretty capable voice to put up there now.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Yesterday on the program, President Trump told me, it's a
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: red line, no nukes, So red line. We got to
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: get the Highend mitched geranium back.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: It's a redline.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: They got to have controls on their missiles and probably
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: it will be inevitable, though he didn't call it a
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: red line, that they won't be able to find their proxies.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I think his goals are pretty transparent. Do you think
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: they've been communicated often enough?
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: No, and not consistent enough.
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: You know, the key to communicating in politics is repeating
• 22:27
  Speaker 10: something over and over. Such the people like you and me,
• 22:31
  Speaker 10: who you know, get paid to follow this sort of stuff.
• 22:34
  Speaker 10: We get bored, we get annoyed, and we're like, why
• 22:37
  Speaker 10: do they keep saying the same thing over and over again?
• 22:39
  Speaker 10: And it's because most people aren't people like us, and
• 22:42
  Speaker 10: so you have to keep saying it. Trump's habit of
• 22:46
  Speaker 10: being unpredictable with his rhetoric and communication is really great
• 22:52
  Speaker 10: on the campaign trail.
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's been proven great.
• 22:54
  Speaker 10: So whether you like it or not, the guys you know,
• 22:55
  Speaker 10: won two out of three presidential races when you're in office,
• 22:59
  Speaker 10: when you're governing usually, and I think in this case
• 23:02
  Speaker 10: it's true, you just got to say the same darn
• 23:05
  Speaker 10: thing until you're so blue in the face that you're
• 23:08
  Speaker 10: sick of your own rhetoric.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Now I get a little bit of that with me.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Yesterday, David, he said, you know, we've sunk one hundred
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: and fifty nine ships. I've said it a thousand times,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: but they have no navy. I know he said it
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: a thousand times for the very reason you're talking about.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: There are a thousand audiences in America. You got to
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: go to every platform and make the same three or
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: four points. But I think he's made the points that
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: they can't have nukes and they have to give us
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: the highly enriched uranium or what he called nuclear dust.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Over and over and over and over.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Again, and they keep saying no, and so there's not
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: going to be a settlement. I don't how long this
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: is going to go on, but I told Guy Benson
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of this thing, don't expect anything earlier
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: than June.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Do you.
• 23:50
  Speaker 10: Look, I've never expected anything from your Ranians. They have
• 23:53
  Speaker 10: a high threshold for pain. They don't care about what
• 23:55
  Speaker 10: we care about. The present offense says and lots of
• 23:58
  Speaker 10: people will often say that the damage to their economy
• 24:01
  Speaker 10: has been immense, and how much longer can they hold
• 24:04
  Speaker 10: on as though they care?
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: They don't care. They murder their own people, and.
• 24:08
  Speaker 10: So they're going to hang on for dear life forever
• 24:11
  Speaker 10: at this rate if they can't. I mean, I'm being
• 24:13
  Speaker 10: colloquial here, but you know what I'm saying. And so, yeah,
• 24:16
  Speaker 10: I think in order to I don't think, really you squeeze.
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: The regime into submission.
• 24:20
  Speaker 10: I think you squeeze it so long that they that
• 24:23
  Speaker 10: something else happens. They don't care about their navy. They
• 24:27
  Speaker 10: don't care about whether their people can eat. They care
• 24:29
  Speaker 10: about protecting their nuclear weapons capability as a threat and
• 24:33
  Speaker 10: their ability to motivate proxies around the Middle East and
• 24:36
  Speaker 10: around the world. And as long as they feel they
• 24:38
  Speaker 10: are doing that, nothing else will matter to them.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Now when people can't eat, and I think we're going
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: to get there pretty soon, and it ron they do
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: take to the streets. President said they don't have any
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: guns yesterday to me, and he's right about that. But
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: there comes a point where if you're starving to debt,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: they're not going to center around they use bricks.
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: Well, we'll find out.
• 25:01
  Speaker 10: I mean, look the protests over the past couple of decades.
• 25:06
  Speaker 10: They happen every so often, they get more and more intense,
• 25:09
  Speaker 10: more and more people are involved, and of course they've
• 25:11
  Speaker 10: become more and more deadly because the Iranian regime will
• 25:13
  Speaker 10: do anything to put them down. The key is, you know,
• 25:17
  Speaker 10: has the regime reached a point where it's incapable of
• 25:20
  Speaker 10: putting down a major revolt. I just think we don't
• 25:23
  Speaker 10: know the answer to that yet.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: All right, last question from the Dispatch senior political reporter.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: You are from LA. There's this guy running for mayor
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: in LA. Do you think he has a prayer, So.
• 25:38
  Speaker 10: Hugh, I haven't looked into this enough to really give
• 25:40
  Speaker 10: you some sharp analysis on it. I mean, I will
• 25:43
  Speaker 10: say whenever there's an intervening event, and that's what that
• 25:46
  Speaker 10: massive wildfire in the Pacific Palisades was. It was worse
• 25:52
  Speaker 10: than anything I ever experienced as a kid growing up
• 25:54
  Speaker 10: in Malibu. It can create the conditions for the unusual
• 25:59
  Speaker 10: to happen, but it's going to take money, and ultimately,
• 26:02
  Speaker 10: voters will also make decisions based on kitchen table and
• 26:06
  Speaker 10: cultural issues that go beyond how you're going to handle
• 26:08
  Speaker 10: the event. I will say that, you know, I think
• 26:10
  Speaker 10: it's pretty clear that the incumbent mayor hasn't.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: I want to say this properly here, but.
• 26:16
  Speaker 10: You know, when tragedies happened, it gives politicians an opportunity
• 26:20
  Speaker 10: to shine prices do that, and she has not taken
• 26:23
  Speaker 10: that opportunity.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: There's no love for her in that city.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: And this guy, I'm going to try and get him
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: on the air because he's running an anti candidate. I
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: hope the Dispatch gives him some love. David Drucker, senior
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: political reporter from The Dispatch. Thank you friend, Morning Glory
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: eating race America. I'm Hugh Hewittt. There's a Senate primary
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: race involving two former senators in New Hampshire. I find
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: it very interesting. John Soon, who was on last week,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: the former senator from New Hampshire, is looking to become
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: the senator again, and former Senator Scott Brown is here
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: with us today to balance it all out.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Scott Brown, welcome back. How are you sanaira or ambassador?
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: What's you gonna call yet?
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: You can call me grandpa? How about that?
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: There you go? How are you doing? What are you doing?
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: Well? I'm doing well.
• 27:10
  Speaker 11: As a matter of fact, we finally have some sun
• 27:13
  Speaker 11: here in New Hampshire. As you know, you're probably coming
• 27:14
  Speaker 11: up to Maine soon and thank god. There's no more
• 27:17
  Speaker 11: to know but working hard every day, really trying to
• 27:20
  Speaker 11: make a difference, connecting with the people.
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: As you say, and you know this for a fact,
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: are you.
• 27:24
  Speaker 11: Going to vote for Scott Brown? Well, I need to
• 27:26
  Speaker 11: meet them three or four more times. Well I've met
• 27:27
  Speaker 11: them five or six or seven times in their voting
• 27:30
  Speaker 11: for me, and it's been really exciting.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: When is the actual primary? Senaira Brown?
• 27:35
  Speaker 11: September eight, September eight. The long is the seven weeks later. Yeah,
• 27:39
  Speaker 11: is the general.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: You've got a four month slugfest at are you and
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Senator Sender and you're going to debate.
• 27:47
  Speaker 11: I've been asking to debate, and apparently he's going to
• 27:50
  Speaker 11: on June twenty fourth here on the seacoast. We're going
• 27:52
  Speaker 11: to do it, I think our first debate, which would
• 27:54
  Speaker 11: be nice. I'm sure we'll do one at mu R
• 27:56
  Speaker 11: And I think it's important for people to know, Listen,
• 27:58
  Speaker 11: we have two qualified people. I think I'm more qualified
• 28:01
  Speaker 11: because I have the thirty nine years of military experience
• 28:04
  Speaker 11: and ambassadorial experience, almost four years being a grandfather, understanding
• 28:09
  Speaker 11: the challenges that young families.
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: Face for sure. But he lives like five miles down
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: the road.
• 28:15
  Speaker 11: And don't they deserve to know where we stand on
• 28:18
  Speaker 11: the issues and pick the best person.
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: I think it's really important.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm volunteering. I think I could be considered a
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: neutral host. I'd love to ask you guys a national
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: security question on that point. You were the ambassador in
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: New Zealand for President Trump. Do you think five Eyes
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: has run its course? Given in the way that Great
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Britain and Canada have failed to deliver in this current war.
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, it's interesting. I think about that a lot.
• 28:43
  Speaker 11: Canada really was, you know, the one the country that
• 28:46
  Speaker 11: wasn't doing as much as the other countries on occasion,
• 28:49
  Speaker 11: but listen, when we needed them in Afghanistan, they were there.
• 28:53
  Speaker 11: They're going through their own changes. I think it's an
• 28:56
  Speaker 11: important coalition. Quite frankly, that's one of the reasons I
• 29:00
  Speaker 11: chose New Zealand to push back against China.
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: I think they do a very good job in that respect.
• 29:05
  Speaker 11: And for example, New Zealand gets into countries and communicates
• 29:08
  Speaker 11: with countries that we could never get into. And then
• 29:11
  Speaker 11: you obviously have Australia. They're going through some changes too.
• 29:14
  Speaker 11: I think everything has ebbs and flows, and would I
• 29:16
  Speaker 11: would suggest if I was advising the president, I would
• 29:19
  Speaker 11: I would tell him to just just keep plugging away
• 29:21
  Speaker 11: and bring them back into the fold. It's important.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Now the President has stayed out of the corn And
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: race in Texas against Ken Paxton, even though Corn won
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the primary. They have a runoff. Do you expect him
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: to stay out of the Sender New Brown race.
• 29:37
  Speaker 11: No, He's already endorsed Chris a couple of months ago,
• 29:40
  Speaker 11: which we both tried and quite Frankly, it was a
• 29:43
  Speaker 11: slap in the face for all the MAGA people that
• 29:45
  Speaker 11: helped the president, including me. But they're not going to
• 29:49
  Speaker 11: vote for Johns and new I can tell you that.
• 29:51
  Speaker 11: And they don't think he's we know, you know, he
• 29:54
  Speaker 11: was with obviously Kasik, and then he was with I
• 29:56
  Speaker 11: think Nikki, and then he called Trump a loser a
• 29:59
  Speaker 11: year before the last primary. The whole family's never voted
• 30:02
  Speaker 11: for him. They hate him, but he got the endorsement,
• 30:05
  Speaker 11: and now he's going to have to answer all those questions.
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: Me.
• 30:07
  Speaker 11: I call balls and strikes. I told the President that
• 30:09
  Speaker 11: when I endorsed him. I told him that when when
• 30:12
  Speaker 11: he asked me to become an ambassador, I said, sir,
• 30:14
  Speaker 11: you may be mad at me sometimes.
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: But you know, that's just the way it is. And
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: I think that's important to have that independence.
• 30:21
  Speaker 11: And I'm glad that I do have that, and I'll
• 30:23
  Speaker 11: continue to call balls and strikes and tell him what
• 30:25
  Speaker 11: I think he's doing great and tell them and I
• 30:27
  Speaker 11: think he's going to maybe do it better.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: You know, the brown sitting rates is going to be
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: a rock fight in Ohio. We had thrown dirt balls
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: at each other, but I think you just throw granite
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: rocks at each other. In New Hampshire, I have your
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: latest dad.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: I want to run it.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: This is Scott Brown's latest Dad in the New Hampshire
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Senate campaign.
• 30:45
  Speaker 11: Dear little ones, you're still a bit young to understand
• 30:48
  Speaker 11: why Papa has been a weigh so much lately.
• 30:50
  Speaker 9: When I was your age, I didn't have much.
• 30:53
  Speaker 11: I learned early on that if you want a better life,
• 30:55
  Speaker 11: you have to work hard for it and defend it.
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: But right now DC is spending the way future.
• 31:00
  Speaker 11: Everything is getting more expensive and the world feels less certain.
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: I'm running for the US Senate because I want you
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: to grow up in a country that's as strong and
• 31:09
  Speaker 8: free as the one I did against all odds.
• 31:12
  Speaker 11: I'll fight so you can make the most of what
• 31:14
  Speaker 11: life has to offer.
• 31:16
  Speaker 8: That's Papa's promise, and it's for all of us.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of grandkids, Scott Brown. They keep you busy,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: don't they.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 31:25
  Speaker 11: I watched my grandsons last weekend. I'm still recovering. When
• 31:30
  Speaker 11: they all get together, it's like a demolition derby. And
• 31:32
  Speaker 11: anyone who has grandchildren knows what that's like. But even
• 31:35
  Speaker 11: that gives me a little tear to see these amazing
• 31:38
  Speaker 11: young people with the challenge it's quite frankly that they're
• 31:40
  Speaker 11: going to be facing if we don't fix this and
• 31:42
  Speaker 11: ripe this ship.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: You know, one challenge that is particularly in New Hampshire,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: and I talked about it interestingly enough with Susan Collins,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: because Portsmouth matters to her a lot, and submarines matter
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: her a lot too, because some of the workforce is
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: up in Maine, and that is people who want to
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: work at ports Smith on summaries can't afford to buy
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: a house in New Hampshire.
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: What do we do about that? Yeah, well, first of all,
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: I was born there.
• 32:07
  Speaker 11: I was boring at the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard when my
• 32:09
  Speaker 11: dad was stationed at Peace.
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: Lived in Portsmouth the first three years of my life.
• 32:12
  Speaker 11: And yes, housing is incredible, but it's also the same
• 32:15
  Speaker 11: thing in Kittery and around the Sea Coast area. It's
• 32:17
  Speaker 11: off the charts. We're seeing a little dip here and
• 32:19
  Speaker 11: there because interest rates are still high and people are
• 32:23
  Speaker 11: moving further up north in both states. Quite frankly, a
• 32:27
  Speaker 11: lot of it has to do with the housing starts.
• 32:29
  Speaker 11: We have an aging building builders, plumbers, electricians.
• 32:33
  Speaker 8: That's number one. But the overregulation, the red tape.
• 32:36
  Speaker 11: We buy a lot for say one hundred and fifty
• 32:38
  Speaker 11: two hundred thousand, by the time you put in shovel
• 32:40
  Speaker 11: one it's four hundred five hundred thousand. So streamlining that purpose,
• 32:45
  Speaker 11: Elia and the legislature here.
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: Have done a lot. And there's a question is the
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: federal government.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: We lost your we lost your vocal there, Scott, I
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: think give us stay had a wire when you said
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: the uestion is and then you raise your hand. Did
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: we get the soundback?
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Now we can't? Are you it's gone?
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: I didn't touch anything, so yeah, you're back.
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: I didn't.
• 33:14
  Speaker 11: Oh guys, I didn't touch anything you but I'm just
• 33:17
  Speaker 11: so powerful and electric. But bottom line is you have
• 33:20
  Speaker 11: to streamline the permitting process and make sure that we
• 33:23
  Speaker 11: have the ability to put ground and shovel one in
• 33:27
  Speaker 11: the ground without spending four hundred thousand dollars for a lot.
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: And there's a lot to do.
• 33:31
  Speaker 11: In Hampshire's doing it better and well, and I hope
• 33:33
  Speaker 11: to be part of that solution.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, Now the other thing I want to know is
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: what are you paying for home heating in New Hampshire
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Because New York won't permit all the pipelines that would
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: bring Pennsylvania natural gas up there. What's the result this
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: past winter.
• 33:48
  Speaker 11: Yeah, Listen, in the past winner wasn't too bad because
• 33:50
  Speaker 11: we weren't having the Iran situation.
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: We haven't turned on our heat for a couple of months.
• 33:54
  Speaker 11: Here in my house, I paid four I think four
• 33:57
  Speaker 11: eighty seven gas right now.
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: I just paid four two with my BJ's card.
• 34:01
  Speaker 11: But before the conflict, I was paying two twenty with
• 34:05
  Speaker 11: my BJ's cards. So you know, yes, you look at
• 34:08
  Speaker 11: what's happening right now, and the question I think everybody's
• 34:10
  Speaker 11: wrestling with, do we want a nuclear are in and
• 34:13
  Speaker 11: have to deal with this in five or ten or
• 34:15
  Speaker 11: twenty years or forever, or do we have to make
• 34:18
  Speaker 11: a little bit of sacrifice and be a little smarter
• 34:21
  Speaker 11: and actually find a way to stop her in and
• 34:25
  Speaker 11: then get those straight up Who's back open?
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: As I know Marco and the President, there is a plan.
• 34:30
  Speaker 11: They are working on it, and they're showing great restraint,
• 34:33
  Speaker 11: by the way, more restraint than I think I would.
• 34:35
  Speaker 11: So once gas prices come down on the streets open again,
• 34:38
  Speaker 11: things should get back to somewhat normalcy.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: President was on the program yesterday Senator Brown, and he
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: was very cagey about whether or not the ceasefire is over.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Do you think it's over?
• 34:50
  Speaker 12: No?
• 34:50
  Speaker 11: No, I think I agree with what hat would obviously
• 34:53
  Speaker 11: the Secretary of War and obviously the reason Kane said today. Yeah,
• 34:59
  Speaker 11: these minor, you know, mosquito boats coming around UA should
• 35:03
  Speaker 11: be pretty upset.
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: And I'm glad that the golf leaders and golf nations
• 35:06
  Speaker 8: are speaking up.
• 35:07
  Speaker 11: The thing that I'm most disappointed in you is that
• 35:09
  Speaker 11: the rest of the world, you know, much of the world,
• 35:12
  Speaker 11: they're not saying, hey, we're all for you, mister President.
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: We'll be right there because they, you know, they get
• 35:17
  Speaker 8: the oil they need to oil more than we do.
• 35:20
  Speaker 11: And the fact that ore in slobbing, you know, missiles
• 35:23
  Speaker 11: and rockets at UAE trying to stop there delivering of
• 35:26
  Speaker 11: oil obviously going after that that new pipeline.
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: It shows where the true colors are.
• 35:32
  Speaker 11: So I am shocked that the other countries aren't stepping in.
• 35:35
  Speaker 11: I'm glad the President's meeting with the President g and
• 35:38
  Speaker 11: I'm sure that he's gonna say, Okay.
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: Are you done, sir? Can you tell Iran to cut
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: the crap and open it up?
• 35:43
  Speaker 11: Because that's the same thing China is trying to do
• 35:45
  Speaker 11: in the China see the Inn Pacific.
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: They want to have a toll road to tell you that.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: So when you we lost your sound there again. One
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: last question. When you go out and talk to people
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: in New Hampshire, do they want to talk about heating
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: oil and the cost of housing or do they want
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: to talk about iron?
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we lost him. Oh well, good segment.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Scott Brown will cut it there and we'll put it
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: next to the Sun segment. Post them both up over
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: at Hugh Hewitt dot com. At my YouTube channel, I
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: do equal time when there's a competitive race. We got
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: an invitation out to Attorney General Paxton in Texas. Not surprisingly,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: he won't come on. He knows what I think, which
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to lose in the fall up
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: he's nominated.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: I endorse John Corner. I know John corn forever.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I endorse John Corny so that I don't blame the
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: General Paxon. I would of course be very polite to him,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: but I would raise the questions as to why he's
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: not going to get hammered by Talla Rico and we
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: can't afford to lose that seat. We really can't. I
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: think Susan Colin will be fine against Platner. I wrote
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: about that for Fox News today. Remember the show Extreme Makeover,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Platner Extremist Makeover, and I wrote that column for Fox
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: News today. I suggest you I'll go over to Fox News.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: And read it.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Come right back for Bethany Mandel. She's next right here
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: on the Hu Hewett chef.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Talking back. I'm Hugh Hewitt.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Bethany Mandel is the author of the mom Wars that's
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: at the moomwars dot substack dot com, the mom Wars
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: dot substack dot com. Bethany I had she had talked
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: to the President yesterday, and he wouldn't say whether or
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: not there's a ceasefire or not.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Do you think there's a ceasefire.
• 37:40
  Speaker 13: It does not appear to be ceasing the fire. It's
• 37:44
  Speaker 13: been a very busy I have forty eight hours. I guess.
• 37:48
  Speaker 13: I don't think that anyone expected that this would last.
• 37:51
  Speaker 13: But it does not in any way appear to bess fire.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: He is not for turning.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: He emphasized to me they have to abandon the new
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: we have to get back the highly enriched uranium. There
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: have to be controls on the missiles, and he says
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: it doesn't really they can say they're not going to
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: fund the proxy, but they're not gonna have any money anyway.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: It was sort of it wasn't the same sort of
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: commitment that I'd like, Is that.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Enough for you?
• 38:16
  Speaker 13: I mean, getting rid of the nukes is what's most important.
• 38:18
  Speaker 13: I think that the administration's reticence to get into regime
• 38:22
  Speaker 13: change is fair, it's understandable, and it's based in, you know,
• 38:25
  Speaker 13: the historical realities that we've faced, especially in the Middle East.
• 38:29
  Speaker 13: I think that regime change will come, but that needs
• 38:32
  Speaker 13: to be up to the Iranians. But from a domestic
• 38:35
  Speaker 13: policy perspective, we really need that nuke program to be
• 38:38
  Speaker 13: gone because we're just gonna be playing whack a mole
• 38:40
  Speaker 13: if we don't.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Now, I have noticed in the north of Israel, and
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: you've got friends in Galilee that has Belah has developed
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: a new fiber guided drone which killed at least one
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: idea of soldier and wounded many the what's the buzz
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: around this new threat?
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: It's out of nowhere. They didn't have this before.
• 39:04
  Speaker 13: I think that I think that there's sort of resigned
• 39:07
  Speaker 13: frustration with the situation in the north of Israel that
• 39:11
  Speaker 13: you know, it's been dangerous up there for a long time.
• 39:14
  Speaker 13: A field of a soccer field full of children were
• 39:17
  Speaker 13: killed about a year ago. So this is just the
• 39:20
  Speaker 13: reality in northern in Israel. It's why a lot of
• 39:22
  Speaker 13: people have moved. But the Israelis understand that this is
• 39:26
  Speaker 13: a threat that also needs to be neutralized and the
• 39:29
  Speaker 13: short term, and it's an immediate threat because with this
• 39:32
  Speaker 13: new technology and developing technology that they that can come
• 39:36
  Speaker 13: after this kind of drone, that this is just not
• 39:38
  Speaker 13: something that they can live with on their northern border anymore.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: What has happened.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I've only been in Israel twice and both times I
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: went to the Galilee because that's of interest to Christians.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: What's happened to the tourism business there.
• 39:52
  Speaker 13: It's totally decimated. I was there over Christmas this year
• 39:55
  Speaker 13: and we went to Nazareth on Christmas Eve expecting there
• 39:58
  Speaker 13: to be a christm a shop and you know, all
• 40:01
  Speaker 13: of these all of these cultural significant you know, markers
• 40:05
  Speaker 13: in Nazareth. And we talked to a man who actually
• 40:08
  Speaker 13: helped us get our car untrapped because we got physically
• 40:11
  Speaker 13: stuck between two buildings and we were talking to him,
• 40:14
  Speaker 13: and he said, I'm a personal trainer, but I used
• 40:16
  Speaker 13: to run a gift shop and it wasn't worth it
• 40:18
  Speaker 13: for me to open the gift shop this year. And
• 40:19
  Speaker 13: I said even on Christmas and he said, yeah. I
• 40:23
  Speaker 13: basically there's basically no work. My friends who work in,
• 40:26
  Speaker 13: you know, the middle of the old city of Jerusalem
• 40:28
  Speaker 13: have said that they see next to no tourists. It's
• 40:31
  Speaker 13: a really, really significant problem that is impacting all of
• 40:34
  Speaker 13: Israel's bottom line.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: And GDP, how did you get a car stuck between
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: two buildings, Bethany.
• 40:43
  Speaker 13: There's no building codes that they listened to, and so
• 40:45
  Speaker 13: ways told me that it was a road, and then
• 40:48
  Speaker 13: it turned into an alley, and then it turned into
• 40:49
  Speaker 13: buildings that were next to each other. And we had
• 40:52
  Speaker 13: to pay a teenager in the middle of Nazareth at
• 40:55
  Speaker 13: eleven o'clock at night to reverse our car through an
• 40:57
  Speaker 13: alley a mile and a half. It was terrifying.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: It's kind of a great story, though, isn't it.
• 41:05
  Speaker 13: For someone else? I sure, I bet it is for
• 41:08
  Speaker 13: me with myself.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Car trouble ends up being a good story that you
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: get to tell for years. If you can get through
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: the car trouble switching, though.
• 41:16
  Speaker 13: I highly recommend getting insurance.
• 41:19
  Speaker 9: I agree.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I always use my American Express when I rent a car.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Here's my question. I was at the Museum of the
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Bible last night for the movie The Story of Everything
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: dot film, which is about intelligent design. It's a fabulous movie.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: By the way, I'd love to know what your kids
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: think about it. Have you been to the Museum of
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: the Bible.
• 41:39
  Speaker 13: I am a member of the Museum of the Bible.
• 41:41
  Speaker 13: I feel like I should get free membership for saying
• 41:43
  Speaker 13: that on your radio show, but I am a member.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Well, have you been in their auditorium where they screen films?
• 41:51
  Speaker 13: Yes? Yes, they do incredible live action shows, all of
• 41:54
  Speaker 13: their Narnia performances. The Joseph performance was amazing. It is
• 41:59
  Speaker 13: the best theater I've ever seen, and the tickets are expensive.
• 42:02
  Speaker 13: They're no joke, and I was kind of reticent because
• 42:04
  Speaker 13: I thought it would be campy. Best theater I've ever seen.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Well, it was a debut of a big budget production.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: The Story of Everything is by Steven Meyer and The Discovery,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: two people intended to tell the story of how intelligent
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: design and the Big Bang theory defeated the scientific materialists
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: rather conclusively. It's devastating and its impact and it's true
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: and it's narrative. But as I was walking out, there's
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: a family of four from North Carolina. They were being homeschooled.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Dad was their mom wasn't who was at home with
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: the baby. I am just curious to you what percentage
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: of America is homeschooling?
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 42:43
  Speaker 13: I think it's sick. Anyone who has a child in
• 42:46
  Speaker 13: the home right now will laugh, But between six and
• 42:48
  Speaker 13: seven percent? Six seven?
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Sorry, Oh no, that's over, isn't it. That's over.
• 42:55
  Speaker 13: No, But when you're homeschooled, everything is delayed. So my
• 42:57
  Speaker 13: kids are super into it right now.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Oh so they're just getting to it now. Oh it's
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: so annoying.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: But six or seven percent, these kids were so on
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: top of it and so ready. Dad recognized me from
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Fox News, so we came over the load. They were
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: all over being talking to someone in journalism. Are your
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: kids that confident?
• 43:19
  Speaker 13: Yes? I bring my kids to the Hill to meetings.
• 43:23
  Speaker 13: They are incredible. And my daughter, I was asking on
• 43:27
  Speaker 13: Twitter the other day about the Senate Page program because
• 43:29
  Speaker 13: she wants to be a Senate page and she wants
• 43:31
  Speaker 13: to work on the Hill. Fortunately we live in Maryland
• 43:33
  Speaker 13: so she can't run for office, but maybe.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Old do you have to be to be a page
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: high school? You know there was a page scandal a
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: few years back. Are you aware of that?
• 43:44
  Speaker 13: I know I did, so that's what that did away
• 43:47
  Speaker 13: with the house page program. And I'm actually now reticent.
• 43:51
  Speaker 13: I heard about it a couple of days ago, and
• 43:52
  Speaker 13: now I'm like, I don't know, maybe a long labor intern.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: It was a long time ago, so I think they'd
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: probably they treat the high school kids a little bit better.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: So my question was going to be a projection. If
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: we're at six to seven percent, now, where will we
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: be in ten years.
• 44:10
  Speaker 13: I think it's going to keep going up if you
• 44:12
  Speaker 13: look at if you look at the enrollment numbers in
• 44:14
  Speaker 13: public schools, they are dropping farther and farther down. And
• 44:17
  Speaker 13: the conversations. I had a conversation today for twenty minutes
• 44:20
  Speaker 13: with a mom who was thinking about pulling her kid
• 44:21
  Speaker 13: out of school because it just wasn't fitting her needs.
• 44:24
  Speaker 13: And the most interesting part of the conversation was that
• 44:27
  Speaker 13: she didn't really seem to understand how homeschooling works. There's
• 44:30
  Speaker 13: no program that you have to follow there's no set
• 44:33
  Speaker 13: schedule like it is really what you make it, and
• 44:36
  Speaker 13: so homeschool parents buy and larger really activated, interested, engaged parents,
• 44:41
  Speaker 13: and that translates to a very active and interested education
• 44:45
  Speaker 13: that is varied, that is in depth in some areas
• 44:48
  Speaker 13: and maybe a little shallower in others. But it really
• 44:52
  Speaker 13: truly is what you make it and the freedom that
• 44:54
  Speaker 13: it affords us to educate our kids. How we think
• 44:57
  Speaker 13: see fit is you can't replace it.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Do you know that if you move to Ohio, Ohio
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: will give.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: You a check for twenty four thousand dollars a year
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: for the education of your children.
• 45:08
  Speaker 13: I know? And in Florida and in Arizona. Why do
• 45:11
  Speaker 13: I live in Maryland?
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: I bet?
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you there's a nice Jewish community in Cleveland.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: It's extraordinary. Same for Cincinnati. You get the Browns, the
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Guardians and the Cavaliers. You play the Pistons tonight. Have
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: your seth can do what he does from anywhere?
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Can he?
• 45:26
  Speaker 13: Is that? It's true? Was that all sports teams? You
• 45:28
  Speaker 13: were listing sports teams?
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Is that what that was? Yes?
• 45:32
  Speaker 13: Yeah, okay, very important to me obviously.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: But twenty four grands, twenty four grand and you can
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: get a lot of moise going down for twenty four
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: six thousand dollars a kid.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Aaron Arin the backpit. Bill good to talk
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: to you about that.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: He follow her at themom wars dot substack dot com,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: the mom wors dot substack dot com.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: I'll be right back to stay tuned a nuclear science.
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: I love my classes.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: I got it crazy teachers.
• 45:58
  Speaker 9: You wear stark glasses.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Welcome back in America. I'm Hugh Hewett.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Lilex's in the house as in James Lilax dot substack
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: dot com actor coming back next.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: Hour as well.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I wanted to do a two partery with him today
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: cause I've got too many topics.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: To go over with him.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: First, I want to talk to him about talking to
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: President Trump yesterday. I don't know that James has heard
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: that or read that, but he and I I wanted
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: him to do a little nice words about Pope Leo,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: and I didn't get that at all.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: I guess I should have known better.
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: Right Well, first of all, you are a third rat
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: talk show shock chalk. I think is as as the
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: President called you many years ago when you got him
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: on the triad, the stool, the Kods, the Kurds and
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: the rest of it. But I'm glad that all is forgotten. Yeah,
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: Popo Leo, Pope Leo was apologizing today for the sack
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: of Constantinople in twenty four, twelve oh four by the Crusaders,
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: and a lot of people might think, oh, this is
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: just woke. Come on, apologizing for the crusaders. Crusaders were
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: the good guys, but you know, it was a really
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: bad decision to make. The Crusaders were indented to Venice.
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: They had to go in there and glut and burn.
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: It weakened the Byzantine Empire to the point where he
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: made Islamic expansion is multiple likely. So yeah, I'm not
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: going to say that Leo was in the wrong right there.
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: But I hope that he makes up with the President
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: at some point and they have a nice and holding
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: ceremony and can put their hands over whatever their equivalent
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: of the Saudi glowing Globe is.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Now we're on Chicago right now, all right, So after
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: and drive in Chicago, and I explained the President yesterday.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I tried to explain to him that Popolo on Iran,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: it's just like the average guy in Chicago. He's not
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: going to know a lot about Iran, Right, that's not
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: what the Chicago land people do.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: What would if you got that?
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: I want to interview Popoleo because I want to know
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: what in his album collection.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: I want to know did he have tight eyed shirts?
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: Did my age?
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: What would you ask him? I would, actually, since I
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: had somebody who was supposedly a font of great knowledge
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: on spiritual and religion and the rest, I'd ask him
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: what they've got hidden under lock and key in the
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: Vatican Museum. I'd ask him I could go down there
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: and poke around for a while. Come on, you got
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: a Raphael hidden down there somewhere, don't you that nobody's seen.
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: Let a guy look, I'd like to know about you
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: know that who supplies the slippers? You know what they
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: what they know about the jfk assassination. Give me the
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  Speaker 6: truth about the Illuminati. Tell me whether or not they're
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: actually UFOs in the Bible. I mean, there's all kinds
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: of stuff. I wouldn't ask him whether or not he
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: had Fleetwood Max third album You, because it was take
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: me a particular watching laughing.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: He is the right age to watch laughing during junior
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: high so as humor might be here comes the judge.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: You never know, right America?
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: Probably probably so. But that presumes that laugh In was
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: actually technically of subjective objectively funny, which it wasn't. The
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: only reason that anybody remembers it is because it spawned
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: a couple of catchphrases and it had Richard Nixon on it.
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: It was not a funny show. It was at the
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: time it was a cultural explosion because it, you know,
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: you had women dancing around in bikinis with catchphrases tattoo
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: or you know, written on them in lipstick. But you
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: go back to it and it's it's a it's a
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: painful thing to watch. I'm happy that Roan and Martin,
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: after years of kicking around the comedy circuit, you know,
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: got a big break and made something for themselves. They
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: squandered it, I think on a on a feature film
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: movie called The Maltese Bippy. And that's why I would
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: ask pop people if I were Hugh Hew at third
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: rate talk shock joke joke jockh if he ever had
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: seen The Maltese Bippy, And if you said, actually, the
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: Maltese Bippy is something that we have in the Vatican
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: Museum on the seventh floor. I'd want to take.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: A Yeah, you will appreciate that Tim Conway came into
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: the studio a few years ago. You just mentioned Roan
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: and Martin, and he and Harvey Carman and Rowan and
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Martin and a couple of the other stand up comics
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: of the day would go to Malibu once a week.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: He said.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Eventually we were barred from every restaurant in Malibu because
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: they they would trash the play right.
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: Because I have a hard time seeing Tim trash a place.
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: I have an easier time of seeing Tim Conway do
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: something like switch the salad forks around to the incorrect position.
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: It doesn't seem to He doesn't strike me as one
• 50:09
  Speaker 6: of those Keith Moon thrash a holiday and throw the
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: TV out the window into the sun.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: I think alcohol, maybe it may have been involved in
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: all of those parties.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: Don't go Anywhere, America, Lylex will be back next hour.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: I'll be more serious with them, Don't go Anywhere, Welcome
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: back America. I asked Lilyax to come back for a
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: second segment today because a very separate hard to transition
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: within a segment from fun stuff to that coming up
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: next hour with Brett Bear. He's wrote this book, The
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Case for America. Brett is an optimist, all right, I
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: don't think you're an optimist. What do you think if
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: the next two fifty gonna be a lot better or
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: a lot worse. Can't get worse than the Civil War
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: in six hundred thousand, Dad, Let's say on the next
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: one hundred year is going to be better than the
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: last one hundred years.
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: I remember sitting in my backyard back when I had one,
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: when a guy named Hugh Hewitt's third grade talk show
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: host Chucks Donald Trump What's called him? I asked if
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: there was going to be in a United States in
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: one hundred years, and he was of the opinion that
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: there was going to be deep fissures and fractures in
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: the country and that it would be unrecognizable. And at
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: the time, I was an optimist, and I said, no,
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: I do believe that there will be in America, and
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: I am an optimist. To still you, I'm not a
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: pessimist about these things. Pessimism is easy and it's cheap,
• 51:29
  Speaker 6: and you feel intellectually superior for saying it's all going
• 51:32
  Speaker 6: to hell, and I see everything that's wrong, but I
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: see so much that is great and strong and powerful
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: in this country, and I don't despair of it, even
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: if I'm wrong. I would rather continue to believe and
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: to have hope, and to nurture the the sprouts of green,
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: and to cheer on the things that are good, than
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: to sink back into some slough of despond and just
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: believe that it's all going for not. We have been
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: through bad patches before. It's a good tonic to anybody
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: who thinks of the news is bad to get themselves
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: a subscription and to newspapers dot org. Come, or to
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: go to the Library of Congress and read the papers
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: from one hundred years ago, read the papers from fifty
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: years ago, from seventy, and you will find divisions and
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: problems and worries, and the strains and the rest of it,
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: all of which were correct, and all of which we
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: managed to fight and conquer and master for the most
• 52:17
  Speaker 6: part because of the exceptional nature of the American experiment.
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: There's been no society like this on the country on
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: the face of the globe. And the fact that we've
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: held it together, you know, with a couple of civil
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: wars here and there, for as long as we have
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: indicates something that endures and must endures. So yeah, I
• 52:34
  Speaker 6: am an optimist. I grew up to know to the futurement.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Let me give you three names. Graham Platnir and AlSi
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: ed in Michigan and Peggy Flanagin in Minnesota. These are
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: not Democrats. These are hard left wingers, and they're the
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: future of the Democratic Party. And then even worse, a
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: lot of young people don't think they have a shot.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: I mean I never doubted that Mom and dad gave
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: me a used car and said, good luck. Don't come
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: back here unless it's an emergency. I don't know that
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of twenty two year olds have a lot
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: of optimism about making their way in America?
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: Do you?
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: A lot of them don't know. I was reading a
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: piece the other day about the bindle. You know what
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: a bendle is not a stick and it's going to
• 53:19
  Speaker 6: It's a stick with a with a bag with a handkerchief.
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: You put your possessions and the handkerchief cab up, put
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: around and you hit the rope. And in the In
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: the Great Hobo and the Great Depression, young kids who
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: had absolutely nothing at home because there wasn't any work
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: there weren'tny factories, the farm work wasn't there, would just
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: go on, the bump go on, they'd ride the rails,
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: and so we had a whole generation of people who
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: were just had given up on the fact that anything
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: could be provided. The future was worse. The dust bulls
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: was sweeping across the you know, the formerly fikun Land,
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: and so yeah, they were hopeless, and they went out
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: and tried to work a bucket day and try to
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: steal up, you know, pie off somebody's sill. So that's
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: been there before, that's happened before. I don't like any
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: of the three politicians that you've mentioned, but we've had
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: radical politicians in this country before, and while each of
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: them is a certain different strain. I mean, the first
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: one you mentioned, Clatter, is fascinating because here's a guy
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: with a liberal Nazi tattoo, and you know, they're still
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: lighting up behind him. The greatest thing I read all
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: day today was I think Frank Fleming who said that
• 54:18
  Speaker 6: if he's anti Jew, if he's anti Jew, why does
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: he hate Israel? Or if he's in other words, that
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: Israel itself is the embodiment of Nazism these days. So wouldn't.
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: He kind of liked it. He wraps up all the
• 54:30
  Speaker 6: strains of the Democratic Party that I don't like. Flannagan
• 54:33
  Speaker 6: I can't stand because she's facile and believes automatically in
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: a variety of progressive notions which are not born up
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: by science or logic of the rest of it. But
• 54:41
  Speaker 6: we've gotten through this before. We've had this before. The
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: question is whether or not we got anction national fiber
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: to conquer it again and again. I like to say
• 54:52
  Speaker 6: I think so, I hope so. But again, the things
• 54:56
  Speaker 6: you mentioned about the younger generation, I'm feeling it. We've
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: had it before, but that doesn't and we're going to
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: get through it again. So what's your next what's your
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: next point?
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: We're done for the day. I just you're You're my optimist,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: and I got Brett coming up. He's an optimist. I
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: just wanted to make sure that they're optimists around. James
• 55:12
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• 55:19
  Speaker 1: ready to be entertained. Thank you, James. Welcome back in America.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewett, joined by Byron York. Fron is the
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Washingtons Aminor senior political correspondent. Fox News contributor Byron Good
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: afternoon to you. I wrote a column for Fox this
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: morning about Graham Platner in Maine, and I began by saying,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: and you may remember the Extreme Makeover reality show?
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Do you remember that? I do? Okay, so this is
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: the extremist makeover. Is it going to work.
• 55:52
  Speaker 14: Against the radical Susan Colin?
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: I got very very out there Susan Collins, like dead
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: center middle the country's politics.
• 56:02
  Speaker 14: You know, if you look at the polls right now,
• 56:05
  Speaker 14: not just in Maine, but in Michigan with l Sied,
• 56:09
  Speaker 14: with the other places that have really way out there
• 56:14
  Speaker 14: Democratic candidates, you have the so called centrist or moderate
• 56:20
  Speaker 14: Republicans doing best against the far out Democratic candidates. So
• 56:26
  Speaker 14: my guess is that it won't work for the Democrats
• 56:31
  Speaker 14: because I mean, Platner is just is not going to
• 56:34
  Speaker 14: perform that well. And people know, you know, very very
• 56:38
  Speaker 14: well who Susan Collins is, so my senses, it won't.
• 56:42
  Speaker 14: I mean some people have talked about what was it
• 56:47
  Speaker 14: twenty ten when Republicans had a chance to win the
• 56:53
  Speaker 14: Senate and didn't because they had a couple of terrible candidates,
• 56:57
  Speaker 14: so Donald and Delaware and a Goal in Nevada, Aiken
• 57:03
  Speaker 14: and Aiken and everybody came away with the lesson. It
• 57:07
  Speaker 14: was just an incredible stroke of lightning. Lesson the Canada,
• 57:11
  Speaker 14: quality really matters.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: And former leader McConnell used to say to me when
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: I interviewed him.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: First thing you got to do is win.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: You can't do anything in then said it until you
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: win fifty one votes or fifty votes.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: So let me put the question squarely.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: We got Platner in Maine, you mentioned lsa ed in Michigan,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Flanagan in Minnesota, Ossoff is himself. In Georgia, the incumbent
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: a hard left guy. Shared Brown's coming back on Ohile,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: he's a hard left guy. Chris Pappus is their nominee
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: in New Hampshire. He's a hard left guy. So they've
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: driven off the left end.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: Of the road. I asked the President yesterday why that happened.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: He said, well, some people say TDS, what do you think.
• 57:53
  Speaker 14: Well, I thought TDS is a big part of it. Look,
• 57:55
  Speaker 14: I don't put everybody in the same category like Shared
• 57:59
  Speaker 14: Brown and aus Off, who have both been you know,
• 58:02
  Speaker 14: the senators for their respective states also still is you know,
• 58:06
  Speaker 14: I think voters have a slightly different view about that
• 58:09
  Speaker 14: because they already know this person. But why is it,
• 58:13
  Speaker 14: you know, why is the Democratic Party gone? You know,
• 58:15
  Speaker 14: nuts like this? I don't know. It continued the process
• 58:20
  Speaker 14: during the Biden years, and perhaps that was driven by
• 58:23
  Speaker 14: Trump anyway, but I think TDS is as good an
• 58:28
  Speaker 14: explanation as any for it.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Well, the Ruthless Fellows had an explanation today, which is
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: that Pod Save America is the puppet voice of Barack Obama,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: and Barack Obama wants to take the Democratic Party over,
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: and he done mont Kamala Harris to be renominated again,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: and he's methodically cutting Ken whatever his name is, the
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Minnesota guy who's in charge of the DNC, down to
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Ken Martin, down to pieces, and that Pod Save America
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: is actually the voice of President Obama.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: What do you make of that?
• 59:01
  Speaker 14: There is a school of thought that Barack Obama is
• 59:04
  Speaker 14: somehow behind the scenes directing everything in the Democratic Party
• 59:09
  Speaker 14: and maybe in the United States, and I just don't
• 59:12
  Speaker 14: really subscribe to that. I don't think that is what's
• 59:17
  Speaker 14: going on. I don't think that it's going to require
• 59:21
  Speaker 14: any great amount of work to keep Kamala Harris from
• 59:23
  Speaker 14: getting the nomination again, because generally, at this stage in
• 59:28
  Speaker 14: a race, meaning like before the beginning, the person who
• 59:33
  Speaker 14: either ran the last time or has the highest name
• 59:36
  Speaker 14: recognition scores very well in polling, just always does. And
• 59:40
  Speaker 14: so I think that's her situation right now. So if
• 59:43
  Speaker 14: I were a Democrat, I would not really worry that
• 59:46
  Speaker 14: Kamala Harris is going to be the nominee for next year,
• 59:49
  Speaker 14: but I would worry about who it would be.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you at because you follow this
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: as well as anyone. You know, Gavin Nisham had been
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: a terrible governor, terrible yep, and he's got great name id,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: bad hair, but some people think it's good hair. What
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: do you think of him as a candidate. I'm not
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: objective because I had to live under Gavin long enough
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: when he was lieutenant. He's been in office since before
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: I was born, I think. But he's only forty. What
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: do you think of him?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 14: Bad hair, but some people think it's good hair. Yeah,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 14: you know, I will say I don't. I mean, I
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 14: understand that he's doing a lot of trolling now, and
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 14: he seems to like that and a lot of people
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 14: in the party like that. I will say, I guess
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 14: it was maybe a month ago, maybe six weeks ago.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 14: He did an event for his book at the Kennedy
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 14: Library in Boston, which I went to. Oh did you
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 14: And I did go to it. Yes, And I have
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 14: to say, the man is a talented BS artist.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: I mean he is so as our president. I mean,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: here goes with the territory, doesn't it.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 14: He is quite a I mean, he's really really good
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 14: at talking. Now. I will say one of the people
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 14: I was with was a very serious young Democrat who
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 14: wants the party to take all sorts of serious progressive
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 14: positions and is not happy with somebody who just seems
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 14: to want to troll Trump all the time, and so
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 14: therefore he was not really happy with Newsom. But I
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 14: think that is a minority in the party right now,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 14: so you know, I would look for Newsom to do
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 14: pretty well for a while.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Let me give you a little insight Byron. I've interviewed
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: every governor in California since Pete Wilson, including Jerry Brown,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: including Gray Davis, and Gavin said can imply like to people,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: I'm just go on, I'm not trying to check him,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: and Gavin said yes, yes, yes, yes, and he never
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: comes on. He really won't go in harm's way of
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: a serious question. Don't you think that's a vulnerability.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 14: It is a vulnerability, but it's it's the vulnerability that
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 14: doesn't show up until much later in the process.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: And you're right, can.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 14: You get through some Can you get through some early
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 14: states that way? Maybe you can?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Because do you think the Democrats will actually have real
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: debates instead of softballs underhand pitching at their debates like
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: they did in twenty twenty.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 14: I think I'll have about the same I mean, I
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 14: anticipate one of these twenty plus candidate fields and everybody
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 14: trying to outbid each other. If you remember in the
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 14: twenty twenty election, it was a kind of a bidding
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 14: war on who could be softer on immigration, you know, like, no,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 14: I'll open the border, No I'll open the border, No
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 14: I'll really opened the border.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: What I remember the most about that is they were
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: over by March, but we knew about COVID already. I
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: think there were two questions on COVID in five debates
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: or something like that. They didn't see it coming at all,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: or they didn't want to ask them about it.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: They're in New York.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Always good to talk to you friend, follow him on
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: X at fire in New York. I can't believe you
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: went to the Kennedy.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: Was it crowded? When I have five cents with it crowded?
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  Speaker 1: Thank you Byron. We're right back in America, stay too.
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  Speaker 1: of books on our two hundred and fiftieth, and I
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: deal with a lot of problem books on this program,
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  Speaker 1: where we're dealing with issues and wars and battles and
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  Speaker 1: conflict in red and blue. That's not what it is done.
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  Speaker 1: The Case for America is really the opposite of that.
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  Speaker 3: Brett beaar welcome. Congratulations.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, thank you for including me in people
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  Speaker 1: that you quote in this book, because I'm honored to
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  Speaker 1: be among the likes of Condi, Rice and child Crodheimer
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  Speaker 1: and everybody else you've got in here. But wow, what
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  Speaker 1: a happy book. I mean, it lifted me up. Did
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  Speaker 1: you intend that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 12: I really did, Hugh, Thanks for having me on and
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  Speaker 12: thanks for being a part of it. I thought your
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  Speaker 12: comments about freedom and were really spot on. And you
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  Speaker 12: know the purpose of the book as you've had me
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  Speaker 12: on for the six presents that I've written about, so
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  Speaker 12: George Washington, Ulesses S. Grant, Teddy Roosevelt, Fdr Dwight Eisenhower,
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  Speaker 12: and Ronald Reagan, and I thought, you know, each one
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  Speaker 12: of those presidents in their own way makes the case
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  Speaker 12: for America about what they do, what they said in speeches.
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  Speaker 12: And I thought, ahead of the America two fifty, the
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  Speaker 12: country sometimes feels like it's on trial, like sometimes there's
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  Speaker 12: just a lot of nay saying about the country, and
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  Speaker 12: why not make the case for America like you're making
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  Speaker 12: a case in front of a jury of your peers,
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  Speaker 12: and use those voices of the past that I've written
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  Speaker 12: about those six presidents, and voices of the present like yours,
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  Speaker 12: like County Rice, like Ken Langone, like Tim Shriver, like
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  Speaker 12: Arthur Brooks, like Steve Case, Douglas Brinkley, a lot of
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  Speaker 12: different voices about the different aspects of making the case
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  Speaker 12: for the country with specific stories, and then come up
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  Speaker 12: with a presentation, evidence and then a verdict at the end,
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  Speaker 12: which I don't often do in my news job night
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  Speaker 12: to night on Special Report.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what you came up with the structure,
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  Speaker 1: but it's a beautiful structure and it works. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to start in the middle of feign app pages of notes, Brett,
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  Speaker 1: so we're not going to get through foreign apt pages
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  Speaker 1: of notes. But I do know what I want to
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  Speaker 1: want to make sure people know is that there's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of Brettbaarer backstory here.
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  Speaker 3: I did not know that as a young and.
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  Speaker 1: GigE high school student you went to the White House
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty seven from Marriage High School in Atlanta, Georgia.
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  Speaker 1: Just tell people that little anecdote, because I found it
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  Speaker 1: so winsome that Bill Plant and Sam Donaldson has cross
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  Speaker 1: passed with Brett Baer.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, well, I went there as I was the president
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  Speaker 12: of student Council, and I went with the headmaster of
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  Speaker 12: Father Joel Conson at the time from Marist, and we
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  Speaker 12: were receiving a excellence award one of the schools around
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  Speaker 12: the country, and it was an event in the Rose Garden.
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  Speaker 12: Bill Bennett, then Education Secretary, came out with President Reagan.
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  Speaker 12: It was a lovely event, and in the back of
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  Speaker 12: the Rose Garden, as often is, was the press, the
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  Speaker 12: TV cameras, the reporters, and as the position the education
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  Speaker 12: ceremony was wrapping up, Reagan was heading back into the
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  Speaker 12: Oval office and at the time Robert Borke, his nomination
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  Speaker 12: for the Supreme Court, was floundering on Capitol Hill, and
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 12: Sam Donaldson, as the celebration was ending, yelled to the President,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 12: mister President, is the bork nomination going down?
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  Speaker 9: And Reagan turned and said.
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  Speaker 12: Well, over my dead body, and then Bill Plant yelled
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  Speaker 12: something else. And I remember sitting there in the Rose
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  Speaker 12: Garden just livid that they had just interrupted this event,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 12: even though the event was essentially over, but that they
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 12: had bursted through the sanctity of this education event.
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  Speaker 9: So I was so mad.
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  Speaker 12: I went back and I was the editor of the
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  Speaker 12: school paper at the Marrison, Blue and Gold, and I
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  Speaker 12: wrote this scathing op ed about how press needs etiquette
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  Speaker 12: and they can't interrupt and be obnoxious in this event.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I mean, long story. Sure you can hear where
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 9: this is going.
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  Speaker 12: Twenty years later, I was Chief White House correspondent and
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  Speaker 12: I was yelling questions to President Bush about Abu Grabe
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  Speaker 12: and a rock at the end of a ceremony in
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  Speaker 12: the road, and so those around comes around, well.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Goes around, comes around, and it's a sort of a
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  Speaker 1: triumphant march of the First Amendment beats all, and the
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  Speaker 1: president can be yelled questions at this one just happens
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  Speaker 1: to answer them at great length. But President Reagan didn't
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  Speaker 1: do that very often, So I just think that's fabulous.
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  Speaker 1: I also want people to know you didn't just end
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  Speaker 1: up as the anchor of Special Report. Part of the
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  Speaker 1: case for America is and I love that you make
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  Speaker 1: this point. Work hard, develop good work habits, do your job,
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  Speaker 1: and you will arise. You went from Hilton Head, which
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: would have been a bureau that I would have been
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: tempted to stay, and given your love of golf Rockford, Illinois,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: I do not end up in Rockford, Raleigh, North Carolina
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: a nice place. Then you're at the Fox News bureau
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: in Atlanta until you come up to DC for nine
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  Speaker 1: to eleven, and then you're here for the next twenty
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  Speaker 1: five years.
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  Speaker 3: How did you get the gig in hilton Head? That's
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: not in there.
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  Speaker 12: I interned at WJWJ TV in Beuford, South Carolina, and
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  Speaker 12: I was the Hiltonhead bureau guy, which was essentially a
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 12: one man band. You know, the camera, the editor, the writer,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 12: and the reporter, and I had I did all of
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 12: that and then and rode to a prop plane in
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 12: the hilton Head Airports to get a physical tape onto
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 12: a prop plane to fly to Buford, South Carolina. My
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 12: deadline was three PM. Big stories like lockerhead seat, turtle
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 12: nesting and what color the azalias were in the media
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 12: and those kind of things. If I missed the plane,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 12: I had to drive forty five minutes. But I had
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 12: to get the plane because I had to deliver food.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 12: That was my next job. So I would I would
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 12: deliver food and I'd get to the door and they'd say,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 12: wait a second, aren't you the reporter on Channel six?
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  Speaker 12: And I'd say, yeah, did you order the cal zone?
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  Speaker 6: You know?
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  Speaker 9: So that was the early days.
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  Speaker 3: Wore working hard.
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  Speaker 1: Now doctor Rice, one of the great Americans live today
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: kind of lead a rise, says to you later in
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: the book, we got to fix education because if you
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: don't have if you can't read, you can't be Brett
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Baer running around with food delivery and doing tapes on
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  Speaker 1: turtle right. If you can't get the basic literacy by
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: the time you're twenty two, you can't work hard enough,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: You'll never catch up.
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  Speaker 3: I thought she was rather impassion when she talked to you.
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  Speaker 12: She really was, and really poignant in everything she said.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 12: She took you know, in this interview and by the way,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 12: I'm putting it up online, all these different interviews including
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 12: yours where and it's the case for America dot Com.
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  Speaker 12: She really thought about making the case and what needed
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 12: to happen. Her biggest point was that this country has
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 12: survived through a lot, and it kind of gives you goosebumps.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 12: Where she talks about growing up Birmingham, Alabama, in the
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 12: segregated South, and fast forward to standing in the State
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 12: department next to world leaders, this young black girl from
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 12: Birmingham and next to a president dealing with major things
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 12: like the Iraq War in Afghanistan post nine to eleven,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 12: and she said, that is America. America is that it
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  Speaker 12: has survived all of this and even a small child
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  Speaker 12: who grew up in the family I grew up in
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  Speaker 12: in the segregated South could get to where I was.
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  Speaker 1: One of my very favorite books I recommend it often
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  Speaker 1: is Extraordinary Ordinary People, which you reference in the case
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  Speaker 1: for America. It's her small autobiography, not her big one.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: It's a small one about growing up and what was
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: called Bombingham. She was at her father's church when the
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Birmingham bombing that killed the four little girls went down.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: She knew them, she played with them. It's her life
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: is a testament to anything as possible. You ever played
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: golf with her.
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  Speaker 3: Right bear?
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  Speaker 12: I have?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, she's a good golfer. Oh yeah, she blows all
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 9: the best clubs.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty remarkable. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk next about David Rubinstein. I've had
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  Speaker 1: him on the show a lot of times. We share
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: an agent, Bob Bob Barnett till he died and David
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: would come on. I read a book came out. I
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: did not realize that his parents didn't go to college
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: and only one of them went to high school, and
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: he an immigrant. He turned into what I think you
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: call the first patriotism philanthropist. He's really a noble character.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 12: A tremendous you know, a lot of the monuments on
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 12: the National Mall, a lot of the documents that have
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 12: been survived and have been preserved are because of David
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 12: Rubinstein and obviously all of the effort he put into
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 12: the Kennedy Center now the Trump Kennedy Center. But he
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 12: is a patriotic philanthropist in the highest sword. Has a
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  Speaker 12: real love.
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  Speaker 9: For the country and a real knowledge of the country's history.
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  Speaker 12: You know, he's done this compilation of historians and done
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 12: interviews that have become books of his own. So I've
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  Speaker 12: always enjoyed talking to him, and he has a real
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 12: depth of knowledge about why and I thought he would
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 12: be perfect to make the case for America. And what
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  Speaker 12: I did was I did it in these truths, dynamic
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  Speaker 12: truths about our nation. And that's how the book is structured.
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  Speaker 12: As you know, America chooses unity despite dissent. It's a
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 12: beacon of freedom. America has the gift of resilience. And finally,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 12: America is the land of opportunity. And in each one
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 12: of those sections there are specific stories and stories like
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  Speaker 12: David Ribinstein's, like Condie Rises, and obviously reflecting back on
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 12: those sixth presidents.
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  Speaker 1: That right coming up. Don't go anywhere except over to Amazon.
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  Speaker 1: Let barry your book.
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  Speaker 3: It is the case for America.
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  Speaker 1: If you've got a doubter or in your house, or
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: you've got a young person in your house, or you
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: have an argument with someone, we'll talk about Arthur Brooks
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: and arguments among families. There were politics a little bit.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: Go get Brett's new book, The Case for American State
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: tune that the you do a show Welcome Back America,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: you do it with Brett Fair, host of Special Report
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: at Fox News. Is brand new book and bookstores everywhere,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: airport's everywhere.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: It's a wonderful read.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: It will make you happy, it will make you optimistic
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: in a time when a lot of people don't want
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: to be optimistic. I'm going to go to the end
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: to the verdict, Brett, and we're going to give away
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: the verdict a little bit, but it's a tease for
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: people to read.
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  Speaker 3: The longer bit. You make four points about the verdict.
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  Speaker 1: The verdict is that the strongest argument for America is
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: that there has never been a nation like it on
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: page two oh seven. But that was the first argument.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: The second is we are forever young. What's that mean.
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  Speaker 12: It means that the next generation can take the baton,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 12: that we are always striving to be better, and that
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 12: we've survived this long. But we are a young country
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 12: in the big scheme of the world. And you know,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 12: Kandi Rice touched on it. We are always striving to
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 12: be better. We're never perfect, but we are striving to
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 12: be And I think that's an important, you know thought,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 12: is that we don't have to erase our past. In fact,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 12: we should embrace our past, even the darkest parts, and
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 12: think about how far we've come and how far we
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 12: still have yet to go.
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  Speaker 9: But that's in part what we are.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 12: We're always kind of this resilient, optimistic, forward leaning country
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 12: and that taps into forever young.
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  Speaker 1: Remind me, David Ribinstein is the guy who redid Monticello.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: Gave them a lot of money to renew that, but
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: they made sure that the quarters of the enslaved were
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: restored as well, and they drive the point home that
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: it's a plantation. Jefferson had his flaws. He had his vision,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: he wrote the declaration, but that he had his flaws.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: And when David restored that. I went down there for
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: a tour during COVID year, so it was kind of
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: a lonely place, but the curator made a point of
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: making sure everyone knew what's it all? America's got a
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: pretty good story to tell. Next third argument that Brett
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: lays for the case of America the stiffness of our
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: collective spine and our boldness elaborate breath.
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  Speaker 9: Think about all we've been through. Think about nine to eleven.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 9: Think about COVID, Think about the race riots of the sixties,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 9: Think about Vietnam. Think about all of the things that
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 9: we as a country have been through. Think about Ulysses S.
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  Speaker 12: Grant holding the country together as it was falling apart
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 12: in eighteen seventy six, potentially falling back into a second
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 12: Civil War.
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  Speaker 9: Think about how we almost.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 12: Don't get off the starting line if George Washington is
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 12: not in the Constitutional Convention and steering things, finding common
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 12: ground among guys that were really split and divided. I
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 12: think that that is the ability to get through tough
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 12: times is something uniquely American. And you know what when
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 12: the king was here, King Charles, and that speech into Congress.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 12: I was really struck by that because here is celebrating
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 12: ahead of the two fiftieth declaration of independence from his country,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 12: and he takes that speech and essentially tells Americans how
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 12: to be more American, uniquely American, optimistic and resilient. And
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 12: I was fortunate with my wife to go to that
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 12: state dinner and in the receiving line told him I
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 12: was really struck by your speech about telling Americans that
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 12: they are unique and should remember that. And he said, well,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 12: I'm glad you got its happy to fiftieth.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: Accreditation of the Accent. Did Camilla did Amy enjoy that?
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 9: That's oh yes, yes, yes, yes, no it was. It
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 9: was a magical night.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 12: You don't have to curtsy, but you kind of bow,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 12: but it was a magical night.
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  Speaker 15: And we had all the fourth argument, our freedom, which
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 15: is my favorite thing about the country, gives us a
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 15: powerful vigilance.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: Now it's never been to put that way before that
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: I've read, but you're absolutely right. That's what the First
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: Amendment does. That's what all of our freedom. It gives
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: us a powerful vigilance.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: Expand on that one.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I mean, we have to respect it, we have
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 9: to we have to fight for it.
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  Speaker 12: And I think your words about freedom and the ability
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 12: to go someplace else, to start up, to do something
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  Speaker 12: you want to do is uniquely American, and I think
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 12: that we as a country have to remember that and
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 12: every once in a while take thirty thousand foot look
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 12: at what we have and what we have fought for.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 12: And that takes vigilant it takes. It's not free, you know,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 12: when they ever say freedom's not free, you got to
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 12: fight for it. And there's you know, all six of
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 12: those presidents in some way, shape or form that I've
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 12: written about have have done that.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 9: In their own way.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Brett, I came away thinking you like TR the best.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: You spent the time with Doug Bergham. You're talking about
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: the TR. I don't know if you're going to go
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: out there for the opening of the TR Museum.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 9: I am, but we're taking the show on the road, okay,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 9: am I right?
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: You like TR.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you could go to dinner with one
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: of them, you'd pick TR.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, he jumps off the page, Hue.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 12: He's kind of just the character and the man in
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 12: the arena really struck me. You got to get in
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 12: the game. But each one of these presidents I had
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 12: some love for. But you're probably right, tr Ulysses as
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 12: Grant was always somebody that I was underappreciated, and now
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 12: he's up.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 9: To I think ten as far as historian's view of
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 9: top president.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Well, I also thought about Paul and his heart surgeries,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: and by the way, thank him for allowing you to
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: include that story and his aneurysm, his heart surgeries and
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: his podcaster. But tr when you talked about telling Paul
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: about TR's health problems, that's a real deal for a
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: young person who's sick, because tr was always on the
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: edge of suffocating to death.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, he had chronic chronic health problems as a kid
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  Speaker 12: as far as breathing, and in fact, his parents didn't
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  Speaker 12: really think he was going to amount him much because
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  Speaker 12: he was so frail. Obviously he fought through it in
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 12: a number of different ways. But yeah, and telling my
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  Speaker 12: son about that, he's obviously been through trials and tribulations
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  Speaker 12: born with congenital heart defects. And I said, five open
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  Speaker 12: heart surgeries and ten Andrew plasties, and we spent a
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  Speaker 12: lot of time in Children's National You know, my first
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  Speaker 12: book I ever wrote was called Special Heart, A Journey
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  Speaker 12: of faith, Hope, courage and love about his journey on
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  Speaker 12: congenital heart disease. Over time, and we've talked about it
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  Speaker 12: a lot, but over time we've wanted to talk about
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  Speaker 12: it less because he's normally he six', three he's going
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  Speaker 12: to The university Of, virginia he's, succeeding he's really. Thriving
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  Speaker 12: and SO i went to him and, said you want
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  Speaker 12: to be a part of this because you're the definition of.
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  Speaker 12: Resilient you're the definition of the next generation and fighting for.
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  Speaker 9: Things and he, said, Yeah, DAD i want to be
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  Speaker 9: a part of.
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  Speaker 3: It so that's What i've heard of that. Story it's very. Neat,
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  Speaker 3: now before we close this segment.
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  Speaker 1: About the, VERDICT i want to go to that chapter
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  Speaker 1: and Quote Justice Sami Coney. BARRETT i, mean you pick
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  Speaker 1: tier one people to talk to you for this other than.
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  Speaker 1: Me you Quote Justice baron is Saying america is getting
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  Speaker 1: ready to enter its two hundred and fiftieth. Year we
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  Speaker 1: have the oldest written constitution in the. WORLD i think
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  Speaker 1: the case For america is made by its. Longevity look
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  Speaker 1: at what a flourishing. Society we have the, opportunity the
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  Speaker 1: freedom that we. Have it's lasted for this long and will,
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  Speaker 1: Last i'm fully confident for many years to.
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  Speaker 3: Come did you find that confidence in other.
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  Speaker 1: Than Supreme court? JUSTICES i, mean was it pretty? Palpable
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: it was.
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  Speaker 12: Palpable, YEAH i mean each one of these folks in
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 12: their own way had this confidence that no matter, what
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 12: we are going to.
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  Speaker 9: Survive The. Constitution as you think about.
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  Speaker 12: It is this document that has survived all this. Time
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  Speaker 12: there's a lot of people who say it needs to
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 12: be adjusted and needs to be worked. Over but when
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 12: push comes to shoves and groups tried to do, it
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  Speaker 12: they end up back with the same.
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  Speaker 3: Document it, bends but it does not. Break don't go.
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  Speaker 1: Anywhere i'm coming back to talk With brett about a
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  Speaker 1: couple of his old, colleagues Brit hum And Charles, croudhammer
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  Speaker 1: who are in this. Book SO i don't go anywhere
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: except to go get the case For. America i'm you
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  Speaker 1: get it With Brett, fair stay.
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  Speaker 3: Too we'll go Back.
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  Speaker 1: America You hewett talking With Brett bair about his brand new,
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  Speaker 1: Book Celebrating. America as we approach our two hundred and
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  Speaker 1: fiftieth birthday with his brand new, Book The case For,
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  Speaker 1: america which lays out the arguments for it while you
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: want to be for, it usually through, biography sometimes through.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: Argument two PEOPLE i want to focus on one is
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: Britt Human. NOW i had him on the show a
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: couple months back just to talk for thirty, minutes BECAUSE
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: i think he's such an. Icon but you spent a
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: lot of years working with, him and he really he
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: was pretty blunt with you in discussing the ups and
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: downs of the. Country what a marvelous thing to have
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: a mentor like Brit hume in the business.
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  Speaker 12: Mentor friend really took me under his wing at the
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 12: very beginning and has taught me a, lot And i'm
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 12: we're blessed to still have him as a our chief political.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 12: ANALYST i think his thoughts are really, poignant and you
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 12: know his experience seeing all that he's. Seen you, know
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 12: he was an icon AT abc as their Chief White
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 12: house correspondent Covered Capitol. Hill he was in the newspaper
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 12: business before that and has seen a ton and has
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 12: this ability to cut through the noise and get to
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  Speaker 12: the heart heart of.
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  Speaker 9: Issues and still to this. Day SO i thought he
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 9: was an important part to be in this, book as Is.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: Charles. NOW i Interviewed Charles crodhammer a. LOT i barely
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: got him on the air because he And dwayne would
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: talk baseball right up until THE q time to, go
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  Speaker 1: so it was never very. Temportty he'd always be talking
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: about The nats And dwayne would be talking about The.
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  Speaker 1: Angels but he wrote the Book Things That. MATTER i
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: didn't realize he was so reluctant to do. THAT i
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: was talking about him because On Sunday's Fox New, Sunday
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  Speaker 1: shannon Had, stephen who was the moving force behind the
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  Speaker 1: Movie The story Of, everything AND i was at its
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  Speaker 1: debut last, night did the panel discussion down at The
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  Speaker 1: museum for The, bible and the thing they talked about
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  Speaker 1: was the green room and the picture Of, charles AND i, said,
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  Speaker 1: WELL i think everybody talks about.
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  Speaker 3: That how did that come to?
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: Pass Brett, barrow That charles is That Charles crodheimer green.
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  Speaker 12: Room after his, death we dedicated the green room to
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  Speaker 12: him and that painting was. Commissioned he was such an
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  Speaker 12: integral part Of Special, report first With, britt then WHEN
• 1:26:28
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  Speaker 12: to den Boss roger, Rails, LISTEN i think he's crucial
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  Speaker 12: and we should have him on every. Night And roger
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  Speaker 12: turned to me and, said, listen let's you, know maybe
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  Speaker 12: we'll leave him. Guessing let's have him on three or four.
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  Speaker 12: Nights AND i pleaded with. HIM i, SAID i promise,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 12: you he's the first BASEMENT i. Need and we had
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  Speaker 12: him on every night that he could be. On because
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 12: you talk about somebody who could speak in verbal op
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  Speaker 12: eds that could get to the heart of the. Matter
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 12: he was, really, really truly amazing when he wrote that.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 12: Book you, KNOW i had been asking him for years
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 12: to do an hour special on his, life and.
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  Speaker 9: He never wanted to do.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 12: It he finally relented and let me do an hour
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  Speaker 12: Special things That, matter and it was one of the best.
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  Speaker 12: Things we ran Into christmas and holidays for years and.
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  Speaker 12: Years you can still get it online and you really
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 12: see the genius Behind charles on a number of.
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  Speaker 3: Fronts, NOW i.
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  Speaker 1: Want to conclude this the penultimate segment with you by
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: pointing out you are careful to note that Sometimes, WASHINGTON dc.
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  Speaker 1: Works congress passed fifty six bills in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Four thirty three of them were quote very.
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  Speaker 1: BIPARTISAN i didn't realize That i'm supposed to know that.
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  Speaker 3: Sixteen were slightly.
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  Speaker 1: Bipartisan and then you weave in To Orin hatch And Ted,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: kennedy and we have a couple of men tell that
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: story that's so unlikely in our younger audience will not
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: know About Orn hatch And Ted Kennedyhorn.
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  Speaker 9: Hatch From, Utah Ted kennedy obviously From.
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  Speaker 12: Massachusetts they could not be more ideologically separated as far
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 12: as most of the big things that they dealt, with
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 12: but they figured out how to work together on big
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 12: pieces of, legislation consequential pieces of, legislation and they worked
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 12: both sides of the. Aisle they fought like, dogs but
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 12: then they laughed and.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 9: Were dear friends until their.
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  Speaker 12: Death it was the example by which this common ground
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  Speaker 12: theme developed of my podcast and a segment on the
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 12: show Common, ground and it led to a series of
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 12: debates in the name Of Ted kennedy And Orange hatch
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 12: at The Kennedy, institute and one of them Was Senator
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 12: Lindsay graham And Senator Bernie. Sanders again couldn't be more
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 12: diametrically opposed on a number of, views but figured out
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 12: how to work together different pieces of, legislation and that
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 12: was the premise of this segment THAT i. DO i
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 12: try to do every. Week at the, beginning it was
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 12: impossible to. Book my staff, Said, boss you're. Crazy we're
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 12: never going to get these. People and over TIME i
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 12: went up To Capitol. HILL i talked to all the press,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 12: Secretaries democrats And. REPUBLICANS i, said this is the chance
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 12: that you can tell your folks at home what you're
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 12: reaching across the aisle.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 9: About are we trying to come back in the.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: Day, Yeah i'm going to come back and talk about
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: Common ground BECAUSE i think it.
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  Speaker 3: Is it's a good model that every platform could.
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  Speaker 1: Adopt we try and do it here occasionally when people
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  Speaker 1: are in the.
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  Speaker 3: Mood but you've got the, big, big.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: Big platform and people are willing to act civil, THERE
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: i do have to ask if it's ever gone south on.
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  Speaker 3: You So i'm going to do that after the. Break
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: Brett baher's book is the case For. America go get
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  Speaker 3: it and come right. Back welcome Back.
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  Speaker 1: America I'm. GOUYWTT i will come to Common. Ground i'm
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  Speaker 1: going to end with that With. Brett but BEFORE i,
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  Speaker 1: DO i made a promise to. Myself we would talk
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  Speaker 1: about Ken land gone And Arthur brooks because they're very different,
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  Speaker 1: people but they figure prominently tell The Ken lang goun
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  Speaker 1: story with the liquor store, guy CAUSE i just think that's, fabulous.
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  Speaker 16: Amazing Ken Land, goohan obviously one of the biggest philanthropists
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  Speaker 16: around and going medical center other, things grew up An
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  Speaker 16: italian family In New york worked at a grocery store
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  Speaker 16: for years as a.
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  Speaker 9: Kid next door was a liquor store and.
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  Speaker 12: The guy had all these boxes and he went out
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  Speaker 12: and he found out that when he folded up the,
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  Speaker 12: boxes the guy, said you could get four dollars a
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  Speaker 12: week if you take these boxes to the recycling the trash.
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  Speaker 12: Compactor and so ken came up with this idea and
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  Speaker 12: he went to the guy he was working for owned
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  Speaker 12: the grocery. Store he, said don't pay, me you, know
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  Speaker 12: don't pay me if you let me store these. Boxes
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  Speaker 12: i'll break them, Down i'll store them, Here i'll take
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  Speaker 12: them once a week And i'll get money from. That
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  Speaker 12: so the grocery store owner, said, sure do. That so
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  Speaker 12: for the next two and a half years he did.
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  Speaker 12: That he made more money doing the boxes and he
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  Speaker 12: was getting ready to leave for, college and the grocery
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  Speaker 12: store owner came to him with a, big fat envelope
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  Speaker 12: and it had all of the money that he didn't
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  Speaker 12: pay him for all those weeks that he worked up
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  Speaker 12: until that. Point he, SAID i need you to use
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  Speaker 12: this for college and for your. Future And ken says
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 12: that that story of that moment changed who he was
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  Speaker 12: as far as the goodness Of americans number one and
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  Speaker 12: number two to pay it, forward which obviously Kenland gon
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  Speaker 1: Space now that's The Lenny altman, story and that name
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  Speaker 1: probably isn't known to about a half dozen. People but
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: if you read the, book you run Into Lenny altman
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  Speaker 1: when you run in the land going very. Quickly Arthur Brooks,
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  Speaker 1: mutel friend of. Ours he lays it out for. You
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  Speaker 1: he's the happiness. Guy he wants people to learn that
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  Speaker 1: it's all about, faith family and meaningful, work and that
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  Speaker 1: the loneliness epidemic has to go.
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  Speaker 3: AWAY i don't know if that's.
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  Speaker 1: POSSIBLE i don't know if it's possible to come back
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  Speaker 1: from the. Abyss But arthur always gives me. Help did
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  Speaker 1: he always give you a?
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  Speaker 3: Hope? Right?
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 9: Always?
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  Speaker 12: Did we talked about focus, groups you, know we'd have
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  Speaker 12: left and, right and they.
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  Speaker 9: Said we want to talk about.
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  Speaker 12: Politics you could see the people, fuming and then he,
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  Speaker 12: said but, first we want to talk about each other's.
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  Speaker 12: Families and they start opening up and talking about. Families
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 12: and it's that shared love That arthur. Said arthur says
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  Speaker 12: is the case For america and the shared love that
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  Speaker 12: he'd like to see bloom is the two fiftieth and
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  Speaker 12: that maybe that's a moment where we can all focus
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 12: on that and come together in some.
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  Speaker 1: Way, WELL i think Common ground is the case For.
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  Speaker 1: America is going to make the case for common. Ground
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  Speaker 1: and the common ground segment is unique To Special, report
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  Speaker 1: and you did mention you sold it to the press
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  Speaker 1: secretaries and they were, skeptical your staff wasn't going to.
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  Speaker 1: It now, Works but in the back of my, mind
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  Speaker 1: has it ever gone? South they brought like cats and dogs.
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  Speaker 12: Together there's been a couple of ones, where, yeah there's
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  Speaker 12: been a couple of ones where there wasn't that much common.
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  Speaker 12: Ground at the beginning WHEN i Had Chairman comer and
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  Speaker 12: the ranking member rasking on they wanted to talk about
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  Speaker 12: this bill they were working, on but they were fighting
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  Speaker 12: so much during the day they couldn't leave that for
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  Speaker 12: a few, minutes and so we had to blow off
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 12: some steam about some of the things they were fighting
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  Speaker 12: about before we actually got to the common. Ground but
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 12: for the most, part people come on acknowledging that they're
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 12: going to deal with the issues of the, day but
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 12: then focus on what they're working.
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  Speaker 2: On.
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  Speaker 1: Pa they're normal. People do you find that it's easier
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  Speaker 1: to get to the common ground segment with normal people
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: as opposed to say, Billionaires.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah it, is AND i think that they appreciate more
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 12: the ability to talk about.
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  Speaker 9: That and you, know it's.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 12: Surprising there's a lot of strange bedfellows that are working
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  Speaker 12: together across the aisle that you wouldn't think. Of but you,
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  Speaker 1: States with Bipartisan senate Delegations collins And king up In,
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  Speaker 1: maine and you just Mentioned. Pennsylvania they are very well
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  Speaker 1: bringing Up Frederick, douglas because not enough people do you honor.
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  Speaker 1: Him he says in eighteen fifty, two which is eight
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  Speaker 12: Team, yeah, well it's just from all The Teddy roosevelt research,
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  Speaker 12: we look, back and you can find a lot From
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  Speaker 12: Frederick douglass and from others making the case For america,
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  Speaker 1: you know what you've found That i've never seen. Before
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  Speaker 1: you got the letters from the outgoing presidents to the incoming,
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  Speaker 1: presidents And i've read every pendential. Biography how did you
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  Speaker 9: Yeah he Did National archives and we had to ask for,
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  Speaker 12: In that's the beauty of this process is the finding
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  Speaker 9: Crackle and that was one of. THEM i agree with.
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  Speaker 9: You i'd love to find that other, letter But biden
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  Speaker 9: never released.
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  Speaker 1: It, Well i'm not going to tell people what's in.
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  Speaker 1: Them they're going to have to go and pick up
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  Speaker 1: the case For america for. Themselves but every time at
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  Speaker 1: PRESIDENT i think Did reagan? STARTED i think he Said
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  Speaker 1: reagan STARTED us left the letter FOR. HW hw left
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  Speaker 1: Not but they're all in this book By Brett. Baer
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  Speaker 1: so go and get. IT i hope you have a
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  Speaker 1: great big book tour Plan, brett and then it goes exceptionally.
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  Speaker 3: Well pick up people's.
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