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Chuck in the Morning 8-19 H1: Mariners embarrassed, Hard Knocks episode 3 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Good morning anybody out there.
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  Speaker 3: Are you writing this stuff?
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  Speaker 2: Something?
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  Speaker 4: This?
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  Speaker 2: This is Chuck in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: People are beyond Let's go, let's.
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  Speaker 2: Get the game off. Well, great morning. Do you hear
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  Speaker 2: from the most beauty full place on earth? That's right,
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: the greatest setting for college football.
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  Speaker 1: We broadcast live here.
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  Speaker 2: From the University of Washington, home of the Washington Huskies,
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  Speaker 2: Husky Stadium right off of Lake Washington on Mont Lake,
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  Speaker 2: where everyone who dares tread must bow down. Good morning
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  Speaker 2: to you from Huskies training camp. My name is Chuck Pollin.
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  Speaker 2: It is great to have you alongside here. We've got
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  Speaker 2: a lot of things to discuss today, but we first
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  Speaker 2: must set the scene for the next couple of days
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  Speaker 2: of shows, as we will celebrate Huskies football with all
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  Speaker 2: sorts of stars that are going to be joining us
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  Speaker 2: here at our set right at the fifty yard line
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  Speaker 2: here at Husky Stadium, And so we welcome you. The
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  Speaker 2: scene is being set. Anders Hurst is here, Ashley Ryan
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  Speaker 2: is out and Anders boy, if you could just see
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  Speaker 2: what I'm looking at right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wonderful.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's wonderful.
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  Speaker 3: It's I grew up going the gains of Husky Stadium, man,
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  Speaker 3: and there's nothing like it.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, you know, have you ever.
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  Speaker 2: Seen it from the fifty yard line at six am
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  Speaker 2: in the morning on a Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: That I have not? So I'm jealous. I'm really jealous
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  Speaker 1: of you right now.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's lovely. And and then we also are
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  Speaker 2: engineer Terry Ryan and I. We have the place to ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: So wouldn't surprise me if we start doing forties, you know,
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  Speaker 2: checking our forty times. I mean, do something Kerry okeing
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  Speaker 2: along the sideline. You know, maybe I'll dress his jed
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  Speaker 2: fish try to find a visor line around here, and
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  Speaker 2: and a mustard yellow hooded sweatshirt. Ye, and I'll pretend
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: I'm coach Fish over here on the sideline. Are gonna
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: start fighting baks? Of course?
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  Speaker 3: Are you gonna start fighting? Terry too, just in training
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  Speaker 3: camp fashion.
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  Speaker 2: Uh well, no, Terry's way too valuable to the operation,
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  Speaker 2: you know, to fake the funk like that. But it
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  Speaker 2: does hearken memories, and I don't even I'm not even
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  Speaker 2: talking about memories of the Husky victories out here. I'm
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: talking about memories of seeing Bucky Jacobson here bowing down.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just glorious. Oh oh yeah, he had to.
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  Speaker 2: He would do broadcasts with me out here in just
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  Speaker 2: four hours per show, just bowing down.
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  Speaker 1: Just like the duck fan.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a duck fan sitting over here in his chair
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  Speaker 2: and just this look off. I can't believe I'm bowing
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  Speaker 2: down to what's going on out here.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like a forceful action that it's just like
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  Speaker 1: you can't stop it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it took him over. He had no choice
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  Speaker 2: in that matter. You know. It's like when you're surrounded
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  Speaker 2: by a thousand shotguns pointed at you. At some point
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  Speaker 2: you can't fight anymore. You just have to give into it.
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  Speaker 2: And he would just put his hands above his head,
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  Speaker 2: drop to his knees, pray to whatever god he prays to,
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  Speaker 2: and he would bow down to Husky football. It was wonderful.
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  Speaker 2: There you go a fond memory.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like VI Gloria Stefan always said, sometimes the
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  Speaker 3: beat will get you.
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  Speaker 2: That in a speedboat. Yeah, yeah, that and a speedboat.
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  Speaker 1: Bow down will get you.
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  Speaker 2: Eventually, the rhythm, the bow down and a speedboat it
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  Speaker 2: will catch up to you at some point. So all right, Well,
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  Speaker 2: it's great to have you with us, and certainly we
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  Speaker 2: will be turning our focus a lot here today to
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  Speaker 2: Huskies football, and I am going to have a special
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  Speaker 2: co host today from eight to ten. Award winning former
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  Speaker 2: running back current HONK Greg Lewis is going to be
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  Speaker 2: joining us here from our set at the fifty yard
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  Speaker 2: line as we get ready for another Huskies camp practice
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  Speaker 2: here today. And I think they are starting early. Are
• 4:40
  Speaker 2: two days, so it'll actually overlay. I might get hit
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  Speaker 2: by an errant football. I'm so close to fifty yard line.
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  Speaker 2: But they'll start practice before our show comes to a
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  Speaker 2: close from what I understand, the next couple of days
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  Speaker 2: while we're out here, But we're gonna have a tremendous
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  Speaker 2: list of guests that will be joining us tomorrow. Coach
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  Speaker 2: Fish and Demon Williams Junior will be on the program
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  Speaker 2: today with Greg and I we will have Jaden Lamar,
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  Speaker 2: the running back, Elennius Davis, one of the terrific returners
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  Speaker 2: on the defensive line, and then the defensive coordinator. Ryan
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  Speaker 2: Walters will be with us today at nine o'clock as well,
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  Speaker 2: So we'll have guests. We'll have analysis from Greg as
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  Speaker 2: he's getting ready for another Hank season with Softy and
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  Speaker 2: Mario and so I'm sure he's chomping at the bit
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  Speaker 2: to get out all of his Husky takes as we
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  Speaker 2: get the season underway. First time, I mean I've had
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  Speaker 2: him on the show before, first time I've ever had
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  Speaker 2: him as a special guest co host. So we look
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  Speaker 2: forward to that. That starts at eight and we'll take
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  Speaker 2: you till ten. So from eight to ten, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we're pretty much just gonna go all in on some
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: Huskies talk here today. That's going to be the program
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  Speaker 2: here for the next couple of days. But from six
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  Speaker 2: to eight we'll weave in some Huskies talk while we're
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  Speaker 2: out here, of course, but there's a lot of other
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  Speaker 2: things to cover here on the Seattle sports scene in
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  Speaker 2: this is going to be our opportunity to cover them.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about hard knocks coming up a little bit
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  Speaker 2: later on this hour. I was fully anticipating leading with
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  Speaker 2: Hard Knocks today as Anders Nose. We were, you know,
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  Speaker 2: had another episode last night, and a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 2: on Devin Witherspoon and Terry and Arnold and more infatuation
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  Speaker 2: with Mike McDonald that we could share here on the
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  Speaker 2: show today, But I'm going to push that back to
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  Speaker 2: later in the hour because it's not every day your
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  Speaker 2: baseball team sets a record for getting beaten twenty two
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  Speaker 2: to nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, when you were discussing being on the fifty yard
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  Speaker 3: line talking taking in the greatest setting in college football,
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  Speaker 3: I was jealous because what I was doing was grabbing
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  Speaker 3: highlights or low lights from last night's games. So the
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  Speaker 3: the extremes ends of the spectrum that are going on here,
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  Speaker 3: you are just taking in the beautiful six am that
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  Speaker 3: the breeze, the.
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  Speaker 2: Thell morning has brought.
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  Speaker 3: Oh good, yes, exactly, and then I'm over here reliving
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  Speaker 3: last night's just trauma that I had. My son was
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  Speaker 3: watching with me, so he got to have a taste
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  Speaker 3: of what.
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  Speaker 2: You can't expose your child to horror. I know like that,
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  Speaker 2: I know, I mean, what was next Saw? If you
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  Speaker 2: just watched Saw with your toddler. So your baby, not
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  Speaker 2: even a toddler, your baby last night after it was over.
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  Speaker 3: Saw would be Barney compared to what we watched list earlier.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, all right, all right, So I mean, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: I'll get into it in a moment. Okay, I have
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  Speaker 2: a feeling you're gonna have to represent the normal reaction
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  Speaker 2: because I don't think based on what I saw on
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  Speaker 2: social media that I got a normal reaction okay for this, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So so I mean, how bothered were you by all
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  Speaker 2: of that last night? Twenty two to nothing?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, last night? In my postcast, I you know, I've
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  Speaker 3: been I've been an advocate for making a change up
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  Speaker 3: manager for a long time. I think that was the
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  Speaker 3: biggest signal, like full on, if there was a time
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  Speaker 3: that right after a single game that needed to happen,
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  Speaker 3: it needed to be after that game. And the score
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  Speaker 3: line itself is not what I'm bothered about. That had
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  Speaker 3: Like obviously that's a record, but those types of games happen,
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  Speaker 3: especially when you know you have position players pitching, and
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  Speaker 3: I get it, that's that's just kind of how it
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  Speaker 3: goes when you want to save arms for still having
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  Speaker 3: a possibility to win the series, by the way, if
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  Speaker 3: you win tonight and tomorrow. So but the biggest thing
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  Speaker 3: is just the complete lack of focus, the once again
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  Speaker 3: feeble at bats, the not grabbing Bryce Miller for Christian Ielich,
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  Speaker 3: and there's just there were so many instances where it
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  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, this is a reason why there is
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  Speaker 3: a change that needs to be made, and I still
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  Speaker 3: think you can do it now, And if you have
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  Speaker 3: any sort of thought on salvaging this season, it needs
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  Speaker 3: to be done now because I think that we've seen
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  Speaker 3: so much where this team has a big moment or
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  Speaker 3: has a big series where it feels like they can
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  Speaker 3: take that next step and finally wake the f up,
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  Speaker 3: they don't. And I don't know, I don't put it
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  Speaker 3: all on the manager on that point, but well so yeah,
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  Speaker 3: at some point it's like, Okay, the guys need to,
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  Speaker 3: you know, be sent a message that you can't play
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  Speaker 3: like piss poor baseball and have nothing happen, you know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he is responsible for the collective and that's
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  Speaker 2: what I've now been saying for a week. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: anybody that's listened to the show on any semi regular
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: basis or listen to Softy and Pain shows. They talk
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: about my asking for Dan's job coming out of the
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: All Star break. No that I've been on that for
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  Speaker 2: a while, So yeah, there's nothing more than I could add.
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  Speaker 2: I guess I would say that's another example for why
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  Speaker 2: I think a change should have been made. That you
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  Speaker 2: could come off a high of a good weekend in Houston,
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: not a great one, but a good weekend in Houston
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  Speaker 2: where you seem to change the way that you were playing,
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  Speaker 2: the urgency with which you were playing, and then you
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  Speaker 2: show up after a day and a half off where
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  Speaker 2: you should be refreshed and you should be chewing through
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  Speaker 2: cave walls to get out onto the baseball field to
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  Speaker 2: see if you can continue this, and then you fall flat.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm glad you brought in the Reevs part because frankly,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I had somebody tweet out I'm gonna tune
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: in tomorrow because I have a feeling kJ R is
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: gonna let Chuck go for ninety seven minutes to tear
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: the Mariners a new one.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: As bothered by that loss last night as I was Friday.
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  Speaker 2: I thought Friday was a far more crushing loss. But
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  Speaker 2: I am bothered by it from the standpoint of you
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: didn't feel ready to play, because you're right, Leo Revos
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: pitches in the game, and he didn't even pitch in
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  Speaker 2: the game. Now he came in and he threw things
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: toward the play. I mean, he wasn't even trying to
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: get anybody out. He was throwing. It was slow pitch softball,
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: and that's not even an exaggeration. They obviously made the
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: decision this game's over at thirteen nothing, which probably was
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  Speaker 2: the right was the good decision. I mean not even probably,
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: that's the right decision. At thirteen to nothing, no reason
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  Speaker 2: to risk another pitcher in the modern era, so throw
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: a position player out there. Rivas is the right guy.
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  Speaker 2: But they were so concerned about Revos getting hurt that
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  Speaker 2: they didn't even let him throw. I mean, I guarantee
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: you he can throw eighty five miles per hour. Yeah,
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: he just threw softball pitches up there and against a
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: major league team, and they scored nine runs, and that's
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: why you set a record for the grossest shutout loss
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  Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball history. But I'm not bothered by
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: anything that happened, including Julio throwing the ball in the stands.
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: I'm not bothered by anything that happened after three to
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: nothing more than I was bothered by what I saw
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  Speaker 2: before three to nothing. And what I mean by that is,
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: for example, Julio throws the ball in the stands. He'd
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: lost interest in the game, so at the manager, ye,
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: so at everybody watching. I'm not that bothered that Julio,
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: desperate to get out of that inning, didn't know how
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: many outs there were in an inning where it was
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: already nineteen to nothing. That I mean, I wish he
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have done it, because now he's going to be
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: on Blooper reels for the rest of his life. But
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: I'm not nearly as bothered by that as I was
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: with his first two at bats of the game, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Like for you two, what did we talk about with
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: Ryan Healey yesterday? Will the way they played set off
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: an alarm to this team for how they need to
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  Speaker 2: focus the energy they need to play with the rest
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: of the way, the urgency playing like every game's a
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: playoff game and you come out of the gates, Brendan
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: Donovan's on base, he hits a double off the wall,
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  Speaker 2: ends up at third base, and then Randy Rose Arena,
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: who at least was bothered by the fact that he
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: took strike three and didn't move the runner. But then
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: you get a gift for the wild pitch, and that
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  Speaker 2: puts the runner at third, and then dom at least
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  Speaker 2: puts the ball in play. Julio took three straight strikes
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  Speaker 2: and in the process was grab assing with William Contreras
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  Speaker 2: about a challenge like that. To me, I can understand
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: why you're not focused. Anders at nineteen to nothing, Yeah,
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: and Leo Revas is pitching and you're just trying to
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: get out off of the field. But where is the
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: hunger for driving in that run? Why are you making
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: jokes seven games under five hundred in the midst of
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  Speaker 2: an bat with the opposing catcher, who, by the way,
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: was not joking back, No, he was focused. And you
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: let three pitches go right down the middle and you
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  Speaker 2: don't swing it single one of them, including a called
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  Speaker 2: strike three. So we get a guy on base, chance
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  Speaker 2: to start the momentum, grab the early momentum, and instead,
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  Speaker 2: you know, arguably our two best hitters and maybe inarguably
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  Speaker 2: our two best hitters, just give away two it bats
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  Speaker 2: to try to drive in that run. So that bothered me.
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: That bothered me. I'll tell you what else bothered me.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: Cal Raley, you know, you give up your first run
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: because for some reason, our Platinum Glove Award winning catcher
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: can't hold onto a baseball where he's got a base
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: runner dead to rights. And I don't care that he
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: pushed his glove. My goodness, this is a sport not
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: long ago where you were allowed to truck the catcher.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: If he was standing in the way, you could throw
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: your shoulder into his neck to try to jar the
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: ball loose. I am not going to I mean, I'll
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: forgive cal Raley for doing it, of course, but there
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: is no excuse for dropping that ball when you had
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: ten feet to prepare yourself for any kind of contact.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: The ball was securely in your glove. Randy Rosereen had
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: finally thrown an accurate ball home. Yeah, you had your
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: other free hand over it, and because Jake Bowers pushed
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: it with his left hand, the ball comes loose. Are
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: you kidding me? I had a problem with that. I
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: had a problem with Victor Roeblaze, and maybe I shouldn't.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: We spent some time yesterday giving Roeblaze rodden and Brendan
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: Donovan a lot of credit for their energy and their
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: fierceness over the weekend in Houston, and we'd like to
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: see a little bit more of it. Here's the problem.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: You give Victor Roeblaze an inch, he's gonna take a mile.
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  Speaker 2: And even though he certainly was aggressive last night, there's
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: a fine line between aggressive and stupid. And when you're
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: down one and Brendan Donovan's at the plate and he
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: just doubled off the same pitcher the previous at bat,
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: and you're trying to steal third base right when it's
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: totally unnecessary. A base hit through the infield's gonna score you. Hey,
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: if there's one out and you want to try to
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: get runners, two runners into scoring position, Yeah, I'm all
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: about that kind of aggression. No problem with that, because
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: even if you get thrown out at third or Rodden
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: gets thrown out at second, we still have a runner
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  Speaker 2: in scoring position, and Donovan's hit drives you home. But
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: there's nothing, there's really very little advantage to having second
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: and third versus first and second in that moment. So
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Brock Roden, Ryan Roland Smith called it got a bad jump. No,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Brock Rodden didn't know Victor Roblaze was going to dare
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: or try to steal third, but once he saw him go,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: he went and then gets thrown out at second base.
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  Speaker 2: I got a problem with that. I also have a
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: problem with Bryce Miller, who I don't know. I mean,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: he came into the season in the best shape of
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: his life. He missed some time with an injury, so
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: he's the guy that should be least fatigued on this
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: entire roster. And by the fifth, fourth inning he's sweating
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: like a pig out on the mound. He was completely gassed.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Anders he was completely gassed when he went in to
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: what it was at the fifth when he gave up
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: the two running yes, yeah, and then he walks two
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: guys come on, and then once it's three to nothing,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: it felt like it was over. Just the energy of
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: the team. It felt like it was over. And you
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: weren't prepared. Dan Wilson wasn't prepared to take Bryce out
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: of the game, even though he was completely gassed from
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: the beginning of that inning. And we really don't and
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: we really don't have the bullpen depth I get it.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, the idea of coming back from three to
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: nothing probably wasn't going to happen, but you were still
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: in the game at that point. But Bryce was so
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: cooked after eighty pitches that he just gave a meat
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: ball to Christian Yelich And now the game was really over.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: So whatever happened after that, I really don't care. It's
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: a loss, and maybe it does go into the record books,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: and yes it's up on the Sports Center highlights for
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: how gross it is. But I don't think twenty two
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: to nothing is the story here. I think the story
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: was how it got to three to nothing, and this
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: team just did not play with the hunger it played
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: with this past weekend and it just absolutely has to
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: play that way and it didn't show up yesterday.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Bryce Miller, I like the kind of comment
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: you were talking about there, But it's just fatigue. And
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: it's not even just fatigued over the course of the game.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: It's his fatigue over the course of a season. His
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: last six starts, Chuck, he's been awful. He's been awful
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: over a six ERA seven home runs and six starts,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: like he has eleven walks in that time.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know what's going on.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: We talked about his elbow issues, the loose bodies in
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: his elbow that he didn't get surgery on in the offseason,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: and it looked like it was the right decision for
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: the first part of the season, and then all of
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: a sudden, he's just falling apart in the last six starts.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with him.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't look like the same pitcher. I don't
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: know why, how you could be gassed after seventy pitches
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: and four innings of work. Yeah, he was, I mean,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: and he was just he was melting on the mound.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I realized it was humid because of the storm outside,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: but man, that just did not look like maybe he
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: was sick, I don't know. Maybe he was battling through pain.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's what did it. But man, we're gonna talk
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: about Kate Anderson a little bit later on in the show.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: It seems like an awful, big waste to not have
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: this guy on this roster right now. Yeah, so we'll
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: get into that later. But yeah, I mean, yes, it's
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: embarrassing to lose twenty two to nothing and be ond
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Sports Center and have it be a headline. But I
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: was far more bothered by what led to three to
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: thing than I did anything beyond that. And that's just
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: where I'm coming from. You fan, however you want a fan,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: But that's that's how I felt about the game last night.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Where was the urgency after you'd re established that you
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: kind of understood what it was going to take. I
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: thought you understood what it was going to take, and
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: instead we show up flat and unfocused and unprepared. And
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: once it became three to nothing, I knew it was over.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I wrote it down in my notes, I could show
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: it to you. It's over, you know. And that's and
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I know they came back from a three run deficit
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: on Friday, but they were playing completely differently yep, on
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Friday than what they were on yesterday. So it ends
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: up looking very very very very very very ugly. But
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: really it's a loss and you have a chance to
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: bounce back from it. But man, I'd be really disappointed
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: if I'm Dan Wilson in the way my team played
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: last night to start that game, And I'd be really
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: disappointed in my front if I'm in the front office
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: for my manager allowing my team to play like that
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: last night.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah, just a representation like it reflects leadership,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: does it not?
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does, it does. All right, let's find out
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: quickly what's on tap for the show today. Man, have
• 21:12
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  Speaker 2: Twanty two to nothing the final score. Brewers over the
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Mariners last night. They'll do it again today at four
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: point forty. Logan Gilbert versus Dustin May, the right hander,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: the ginger haired right hander for the Milwaukee Brewers who
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: they acquired at the deadline from the Cardinals. Believe it
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: or not, a team they're battling it out with any
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: in the division Major League Baseball. Last night the scoreboard,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Houston did lose, so you didn't lose any ground to Houston.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Texas won. So Texas right on the rate on the
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Astros heels. So the Mariners remain four games out of
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: the division lead and still three games out in the
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: wild card. Husky's camp as I said, that's where we
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: are today, That's where we're broadcasting for the next couple
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: of days. Greg Lewis will be my special co host
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: from eight to ten Today. We'll also have Jade Lamar,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Elinius Davis, and DC. Ryan Walters will join us in
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: our two hours here with Greg and so a lot
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: of Husky's football talk coming your way. Seahawks training camp
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: continues Hard Knocks episode last night. We'll talk to Greg
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Bell about what he might have learned from the Terry
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: and Arnold story last night. That was certainly the focus
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: of the show yesterday, so we'll talk more about that
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: with him at seven oh five. It is Nashville Week,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: so they will have a joint practice with the Titans
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: this week and then they will play the Titans in
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: preseason game number two on Sunday, and it's Sounders versus
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Austin tonight. The Sounders seeking to snap their seven game
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: MLS losing streak, and they will be taking on a
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: franchise that Anders named his child after, right at Austin.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what it was.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you're a big fan of Mett mcconaughead.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, so, yeah, I almost gave him the middle
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: name Longhorn. You know, Austin Longhorn, hurts.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: That's actually a pretty good middle name, right, Longhorn, which
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: my middle name was Horn. All right, Mariners, morning after Sorry,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: we got to go through it all again. Next Sports
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Radio ninety three point three kh A r FM. We're
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: here at Husky Stadium. I'm on montleg right now. I'm
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: at the fifty yard line. For goodness sake, I'm practically
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: spooning with Demon Williams Junior. Oh as we speak right now,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: that's how close I am to the football program. We're
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: gonna do our special Huskies camp shows here for the
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: next couple of days. I'm gonna have special guest hosts
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: from eight to ten and all sorts of players and
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: coaches joining us here for the next couple of days.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: And I was fully anticipating starting the show with either
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Hard Knocks or Huskies football and setting the scene and
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: talking some college football here to begin the morning. And
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, our baseball team decides to
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: lose twenty two to nothing, and the fan base has
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: lost its ever loving minds over the performance last night,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: which was at best cruddy and certainly in the field
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: of embarrassment, But maybe twenty two to nothing and put
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: in the record books doesn't tell the whole story. We
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: could use a little context. After all, nine of those
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: runs were scored against Leo Revas throwing softball pitches in
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: the ninth inning to the Milwaukee Brewers lineup. So I mean,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: thirteen nothing's bad enough, get me wrong, but it wasn't
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: as gross as the final score indicates. And I don't
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: really care once you're to thirteen nothing, Andrews, I don't
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: care if it ends up twenty two to no. No. Yeah.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: And like I said, it's not the scorer that made
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: me bother last night. It was a lot of the
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: things that led to it, right, and just little moments in.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: The game that's a microcosm of the season, right.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree with that. And yet
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I think the play that bothered people the most last
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: night was when it was in the ninth inning, when
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: it was a total joke. While Leo Ribas is throwing
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: lobs up to professional baseball players at the plate and
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: they're crushing them all over the park and in the process,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Julio Rodriguez finally secures a very precious out to get
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: them near the end of the inning, but not out
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: of the inning, even though he was sure it was
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: out number three.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: As rough as this is, no one wants to be
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: at down the field right now.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Obviously Ribas is not having any fun with this. In
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: the sacrificial un yell it's to center, Julio was there
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: and he makes the catch.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: And Julio threw the ball into the seats. Julio threw
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: the ball into the seats. That was the second.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Out, Just so the runners are going to advance two bases,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: which will score another run.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: And this just adds to a miserable night here in Milwaukee.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: The two errors of the last sitting, the throw over
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: the over second base, Naylor dropping a routine throw. Yeah,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: this is rough. Yeah, that's a really good call, by
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: the way. Yeah, I love it when it captures the
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: essence of what's happening. So Rich McKay and Ryan roland
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Smith on the call there last night, as the game
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: had gotten away. Certainly they lost focus by then. Yeah,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: certainly they were playing like garbage by then. Certainly they
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: were embarrassing in the way that they finished off that game.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: But as I outlined previously, I was more bothered by
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: what happened leading up to three to nothing and six
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: to nothing than I was what happened in the eighth
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and ninth innings last night, because maybe I understand why
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Julio would lose the number of outs when you're just
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: getting mopped up and just wanted to get off of
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: the field. It really didn't have anything to do. We
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: weren't coming back from nineteen to nothing.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Really, you don't. You don't think there's a comeback bruin there.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think we're coming.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: With Leo Rivas on the mound.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: No, No, we weren't. We weren't going to rally, not
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: even against Gary Sanchez. Yeah, in the ninth inning, we
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: weren't going to rally. And so you know it was.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: It was an ugly night, but it does count as
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: just one loss. I have a feeling, having followed this
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: game for a while, Friday nights loss was a lot
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: harder to take than yesterday's embarrassment. But is it an
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: example of a team that has had difficulty, in our opinions,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: focusing on the task at hand. Yeah, and I don't.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: And like I said, I can understand it when it's
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: nineteen to nothing, I don't understand it when it's the
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: top of the first right, and so very frustrating night.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: And the team wasn't ready to play ball last night,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: not all of them anyway, and that's inexcusable. Yeah, and
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: so they'll try it again today. Now. The good news
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: is they do have the opportunity to face over the
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: next couple of days. Truly Milwaukee's four and five starters.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, you faced their number three and he's pretty good,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Kyle Harrison last night.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: He's a lefty, so he really is their number one
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: to us?
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, gus much rather face.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Miss Yeah, honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if that were
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: actually the case.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: But Dustin May today, and he's had his troubles this year,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: especially with his command and control. So that's going to
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: be tonight and then tomorrow it is another lefty, but
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: it is Robert Gasser, who has just been trying to
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: hold onto a roster spot for the Brewers all season long.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: And so pitching matchups do favor you the next couple
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: of days. I'm gonna tell you this, the professional athlete's
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: gonna flush that game. They're not gonna be extra bothered
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: because they lost twenty two to nothing. Like I said,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I think it was going to be a lot more
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: difficult for them to get back up for a Saturday's
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: game in Houston, and they managed to do that, that's true,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: then it will be tonight in Milwaukee against the Brewers.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: It's one game, you flush it and keeping the context
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: in mind, will see if they come out with the
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: same fire tonight as they had to begin the last game,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: then I would think that maybe you've learned everything you
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: need to know about Dan Wilson at that point if
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: he can't get them refocused in time for today. But
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert versus Dustin May pitching advantage Mariners, So that's
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: what's going on tonight, and the last time Logan was
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: in this situation a plus, so we'll see what happens.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: But four forty first pitch. We won't have a lot
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: of time today to talk more about this shellacking last night,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: but we will have Abcason the seven o'clock hour to
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: share with you. Coming up next, Andrews and I haven't
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: discussed hard knocks whatsoever, so we will get to that
• 30:23
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• 30:59
  Speaker 2: I love it. Did they just spell it out for everybody.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: It's right in front of me. The greatest setting, this says,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: right here on the field, so nobody that does it
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: gets it twisted. The greatest, greatest setting for college football
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: right here. That's where we're broadcasting here this morning and
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: for the next couple of days Husky's Camp. We got
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: all sorts of guests coming your way from eight to ten.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: And when I say we, I mean anders Hurst filling
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: in for Ashley Ryan, who is own vacation. My name
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: is Chuck Pile. It's great to have you with us
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: here on this home day. We will have a little
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: reckless at breakfast later in the show. ABC's the MS
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: at seven thirty, and Greg Bell will talk some Seahawks
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: football with us at seven oh five. But from eight
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: to ten, it's going to be all college football, all
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Husky talk, not necessarily all Huskies talk, because I think
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: we're going to talk about some national college football stuff
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: with Greg Lewis, who will be my special guest co
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: host here today from eight to ten. So we'll do
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: this on back to back days. It is great to
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: be out here. Thanks to Washington for setting us up,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: thanks to Jed Fish. Jeff Beck told because we always love,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: or at least I always love coming out here and
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: doing Husky's training camp for at least a couple of days.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I could do a lot more, but let's talk. We're
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: not gonna have a lot of time because of that.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Andrews talk about what we saw on Hard Knocks last night.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: We'll get into it with Greg Bell at seven five.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: But again, a really well done show. I mean, I
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: thought it was just really well produced. So I want
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: to give credit to HBO and whoever's putting those shows together,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: but it is just really well done what they've done
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: for these first three episodes. And I'm sure a Steelers
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: fan is only somewhat interested in it, but from a
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Seahawks fan perspective, I think it is just delivered all
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: three weeks, and especially considering I know they don't have
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: the access that they used to have, and that the
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: show's really not about who's making the cut like it
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: used to be. The emotions of all of that. The
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: NFL kind of forced them to get rid of really
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: focusing on that but I think it's just been really
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: well packaged and well produced. From how the lights were
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: put in the for the twelve before a game, Like
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know what they were doing, but they're
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: playing some Eddie vedder and they're showing the uh people
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: closing blinds and I'm like, what, who, who did you
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: get to agree to this? You know, go into your
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: homes and how you're pulling down the blinds and getting
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: ready to leave your house. And then all of a sudden,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I see what you did there exactly.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: It's really cool. Yeah, you just did there they were
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: getting ready for game day. I mean they did. They
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: gave some love to the twelves last night. I loved
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: that portion of the of the show last night.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, And they did it in the first
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: episode two where they, you know, were highlighting them all
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: coming into training camp and stuff like that, and like
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: how how different it feels compared to a lot of
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: other teams as well, And yeah, I think that's one
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: of the main things and I'm gathering from this is
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: that the camaraderie or the connection i should say, between
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: the team and its fans and we all know was
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: strong and especially being here in Seattle. But it's nice
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: to see that that's being recognized, you know, on a
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: national scale. But yeah, the production value is off the charts. Man,
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah. Yeah, and then you know, to
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: include the story about the beast quake. I'm sure a
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: lot of people that aren't from here did not know that,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: and so now they do if they watch Hard Knocks.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: It was just really well executed. I liked the mill
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Row Mike McDonald exchange as he just continues. I think
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: that there are football fans and other NFL cities that
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: are just slack jawed by how impressive Mike McDonald is.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Now we already know it. We kind of want to
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: lock them up for life. Yeah here, I have a
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: feeling John Schneider does as well. I don't know how
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: far away we are from discussing an extension with him.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: But the secret is, I mean, the cats out of
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: the bag. I mean, he was already people already know
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: that a young head coach had just delivered a world
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: championship in his second year on the job to Seattle.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: But I think that this show is showcasing him in
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: a way where every football fan wants him to be
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: their head coach. Yeah, I mean that's that's the feeling
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: that I get.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Well, and we didn't feel like this, but I feel
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: like the narrative around Mike McDonald or even after the
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: super Bowl was that, Okay, yeah, I mean, he's this
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: mastermind that can scheme up a defense, but it was
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: the team that John Schneider built and like he's the
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: true kind of guy that's you know, running the show,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: and they and they were questioning his I don't want
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: to say leadership because that's not the right way to
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: put it, but his personality I guess I could say,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: but that obviously all those things are being shown on
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Hard Knocks, and I absolutely love it because I'm even
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: learning some stuff, and you know, we've been out there.
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  Speaker 3: We get to have more access than the regular twelveth
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  Speaker 3: Man fan. But even even myself, I'm seeing things that
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't not normally have seen about Mike McDonald.
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  Speaker 2: You're seeing it from a perspective you've never been able
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  Speaker 2: to see it from, and all of a sudden you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I get it, Yes, Oh I understand. He's just relatable
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  Speaker 2: and stern without being overly tough, and yet likable and
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  Speaker 2: approachable and explains things in a simple fashion that both
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: teaches and compliments at the exact same time. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't possess those I mean, as a lead of
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  Speaker 2: a radio show, I don't I have some leadership responsibilities
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  Speaker 2: in this job. I don't come anywhere close to I mean,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm fifty five years old. There's no changing me.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of wish I would have been given access
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  Speaker 2: to a leader like Mike McDonald once upon a time,
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  Speaker 2: and I probably would have copied myself after him in
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  Speaker 2: that fashion. So it's just been very impressive. And then
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: finally before we break and bring Greg Bell on for
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: more information, Terry and Arnold and Witherspoon. But Weatherspoon was
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: just sort of a feel good Yeah. It was really
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  Speaker 2: cool to see like the players respond to him in
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: the locker room after he got his money. That was awesome,
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  Speaker 2: and then that they had the then he went in
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  Speaker 2: and just had a private moment with the general manager
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  Speaker 2: and the head coach. Might have been my favorite part
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  Speaker 2: of the entire episode was just Spoon and McDonald and
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  Speaker 2: John Schneider and the appreciation that the three have for
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  Speaker 2: one another. That was special. And then the Terry and
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  Speaker 2: arnold stuff, which we'll get into more with Greg. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it just came across to me like this was a
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  Speaker 2: no brainer for John Schneider, and he didn't care at
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  Speaker 2: all about the charges. He was just trying to get
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  Speaker 2: to the bottom of whether or not the charges represent
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  Speaker 2: the person and if those charges are dropped, which you
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: know he's rooting for. Yeah, that Can I get a
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  Speaker 2: good player that I liked two years ago at a
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  Speaker 2: young age, at a cheap price to join our organize?
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  Speaker 2: Can I pull? Can I pull a fast one here?
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  Speaker 2: While other people are scared off by his charges and
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: and the intimidating line of life in prison. While everybody's
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: hung up on that, I'm going to go try to
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  Speaker 2: get a football player. I don't know if that paints
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  Speaker 2: him in necessarily the best light. I don't, But in
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  Speaker 2: terms of my job is to make this team as
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: talented as possible for Mike McDonald to coach up. You
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  Speaker 2: could see an example of that last night. That nothing
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  Speaker 2: is going to get in his way of trying to
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  Speaker 2: add a talent. Yeah, and so so to me, that's
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: that was my takeaway from that situation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just loved his conversation with Arnold's agent, right,
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  Speaker 3: and you could tell, like you can always say how
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: much you liked a player coming into draft, right and
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: not really mean it, but you could tell how much
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: he actually really liked Terry on Arnold. He went back
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  Speaker 3: to look at his interview, you know, with him.
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  Speaker 2: And he kept trying to convince himself, like everybody would
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  Speaker 2: come in the room, he's great.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, I mean Jalen likes him, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but Robbie he's cool, right exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he was trying to convince himself that this
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  Speaker 2: was a no brainer. He saw it as a no brainer.
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  Speaker 2: He knew that fans weren't going to see it as
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: a no brainer. He probably knew that Mike wasn't going
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: to see it as a no brainer. He saw it
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: as a no brainer, and he just spent two episodes,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: which I'm guessing two weeks, trying to convince himself, Yeah,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: we got to do this, right, You're on with me,
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  Speaker 2: You're on board with me.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't just me right right.
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  Speaker 2: Uh. And that's what we saw in this episode of
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Hard Knocks. We'll ask Greg about it next. Plus your
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