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Remember being bored? · Dos Amigos

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Freddie Rodriguez and I'm Wilmer Valdorama. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to those amigos, and pretty I bored.
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  Speaker 2: I'm bored.
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  Speaker 1: You know this is turning to sound like an episode
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  Speaker 1: And if you're watching us, I'm we're in the same
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  Speaker 1: outfit as the last episode.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. We don't change, and.
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  Speaker 1: It's because we don't like change. And speaking of change,
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  Speaker 1: some things are really changing. Yeah, and that's a great
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  Speaker 1: segue into this episode. Right, you killed the baker man,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you man. So on this episode we're going to
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  Speaker 1: tackle you and I Freddie. Yeah. The power of boredom,
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  Speaker 1: the power of boards aka turning the brain off. I
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  Speaker 1: was in parentheses, per leo' clem. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna read this because I think it was very important.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see the idea that we've engineered boredom out of existence.
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  Speaker 1: It might be wars for it. Every micro gap, elevator line,
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  Speaker 1: red light, the ninety seconds before a friend shows up
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  Speaker 1: now gets filled in with a screen. The episode of
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  Speaker 1: the question, right, the the episode question is did we
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  Speaker 1: lose something important when we made it impossible to where
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  Speaker 1: we just sit there?
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  Speaker 2: That's that's an interesting question. You know, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if we've lost anything. While you know, you gave a
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  Speaker 2: great example there about when you're waiting for a friend
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  Speaker 2: or something, you kind of turn on the screen. But
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  Speaker 2: when we started to talk about the subject matter, what
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  Speaker 2: came to mind was, remember when we were kids and
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  Speaker 2: we were born. It's what motivated our creativity, being bored, right.
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  Speaker 1: It's what powered it, so powered it.
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  Speaker 2: Right, you're bored, so all of a sudden, you take
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  Speaker 2: two action figures, for example, you take two g i
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  Speaker 2: Joe's right, and you start to make up a story
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  Speaker 2: with these two Gi Jones and they're fighting and they're
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  Speaker 2: doing this, and they're going on an adventure. And so
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  Speaker 2: boredom sparked creativity, and so did we lose creativity? Now
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  Speaker 2: that boredom or the space or the void of boredom
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  Speaker 2: is filled with screens and social media and iPads, what
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  Speaker 2: do you think, Well, you have and you have two
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  Speaker 2: young Toby, right, So.
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  Speaker 1: We reminded our daughter that that's why her toys were for. Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like I started out there, and that's when I started realizing,
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  Speaker 1: like she was like going to watch a movie, Like, well, honey,
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  Speaker 1: that's what your toys are for. Go make a movie, right,
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  Speaker 1: And so she's really starting to embrace that. So I
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  Speaker 1: hear her making voices in her room all the time,
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  Speaker 1: or she's maybe talking to ghosts. Oh but maybe not.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it's just really her imagination is running wild. But
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  Speaker 1: I think, going back to your question, here's what the
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  Speaker 1: concern really is. Because one can say, oh, we are
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  Speaker 1: receiving more information, therefore it could be in information within
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  Speaker 1: our interests, So therefore you see it as an investment.
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  Speaker 1: But what is the cost of you not able to
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  Speaker 1: give in your brain a moment of stillness, which is
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  Speaker 1: the moment that energizes and energizes the wonder of going farther,
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  Speaker 1: you know, lifting heavier, you know, thinking out loud. When
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  Speaker 1: you're internalizing so much, how much are you able to externalize?
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  Speaker 1: And I think one of the things that boredom has
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  Speaker 1: created the space for is for this the migration of
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  Speaker 1: the screen, and now you're internalizing so much it becomes
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  Speaker 1: an introvert, you know generation where like most of these
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  Speaker 1: internal conversations are happening as an intake as opposed to
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  Speaker 1: the shared of ideas. You know. So I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder if what it's doing is is
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  Speaker 1: kind of diluting our opportunity to be more wondrous with
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  Speaker 1: the world we are actually experiencing and living, our ability
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  Speaker 1: to connect to others. And then the other thing that
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  Speaker 1: happens in boredom is that now it could also serve
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the fulfillment of the boredom with screens. It
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  Speaker 1: could also you know, continue to cultivate that comparison to
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  Speaker 1: things that are only real on social media, they're not
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  Speaker 1: really in real life. And people's achievements and success and
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  Speaker 1: online look like it's immediate, and why not. Why is
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  Speaker 1: it not happening to me when we came from a
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  Speaker 1: generation rule so that goes, this takes time. You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to put some work, there's gonna be some hours.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like, you know, I noticed it a lot,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, the younger generation is that you know
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  Speaker 1: that if it doesn't pan out right away, they gotta shift.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta go a different thing, and when that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: pan out, I'm gonna try something else, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: everyone also to do with what they see online and
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  Speaker 1: the if it doesn't happen right away, then it's maybe
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  Speaker 1: they were wrong, you know, And like the truth is,
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  Speaker 1: some of these things take time. So I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I am just giving you a perspective
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  Speaker 1: from what I see and from some of the young
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  Speaker 1: generations that either I work with or experience and you know,
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  Speaker 1: and the you of life. You know. But it does
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  Speaker 1: feel to me that that if you, you know, if
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  Speaker 1: you continue to supply your boredom with a screen, it
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  Speaker 1: depends on like what is that screens playing for you?
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  Speaker 1: Whether it allows you to fire up and go farther
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  Speaker 1: or internalizes you and says like, you know, where is
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  Speaker 1: my confidence and going there? If I'm never going to
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  Speaker 1: amount to what I'm seeing. So if you have a
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  Speaker 1: constant signal that's telling you something else, because your algorithm
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  Speaker 1: is seeing the insecurity and the things you're clicking and watching,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like is that poison? You know. At the
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  Speaker 1: risk of sounding like the old guy in the room,
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  Speaker 1: I think like, you know, I also think that this
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  Speaker 1: that there's another soon, you know, arriving generation that's just like.
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  Speaker 2: Everything looks the same now, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: These trends are making everyone sound the same, look the same,
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  Speaker 1: use the same filters, use the same trends, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that they're now board with what's incoming. So I
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  Speaker 1: feel like we're in stock in the style of generation.
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  Speaker 1: But the next generation is going to be like I.
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  Speaker 2: Think I want to read a book now, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: read a book, or maybe if they are going to
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  Speaker 2: be on the screen, change their algorithm to something different
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  Speaker 2: other than like the guy driving the Ferrari.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that said, that said, there's something to be
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  Speaker 1: said also about this generation. That is, ability to consume
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  Speaker 1: and intake content is astronomical. And there's also something to
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  Speaker 1: be said about what they've achieved in making the world
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  Speaker 1: smaller by communicating in all the different ways, whether it's
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  Speaker 1: content creation, whether it's you know, commuting with each other's accounts,
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  Speaker 1: you know, on a global scale, following each other's footsteps,
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. There's something to be said about this generation,
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  Speaker 1: how much they've disruptive and how much they've advanced the
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  Speaker 1: ability of humanity to connect.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like like, for example, I don't know about
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  Speaker 2: you or what your algorithm is.
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  Speaker 1: Like, but like I've become more.
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  Speaker 2: The stuff I get from you, Like three in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: I think this morning too, I think you did.
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  Speaker 2: I've become more financially literate. I've learned more about finances
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  Speaker 2: and stocks and like certain things that seemed foreign to
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  Speaker 2: me before that maybe would have taken me a little
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  Speaker 2: longer to learn from someone where some of my algorithm
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  Speaker 2: is diverted to people explaining it to me in very
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  Speaker 2: sort of layman terms, you know, in order for me
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  Speaker 2: to understand. And so I think, oh, well, what if
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  Speaker 2: a young person were to see something like that, it
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  Speaker 2: would make them more financially literate and other other subject
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  Speaker 2: matters as well. You know, I think that I've I've
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  Speaker 2: converted my algorithm more or towards that, you know, whether
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  Speaker 2: it's that or being more spiritually inclined and stuff that
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  Speaker 2: I've learned through that, or you know, as opposed to
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  Speaker 2: like you said, you know, like the guy driving the
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  Speaker 2: Porsche and me trying to emulate that dude or whatever
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  Speaker 2: else is in there.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I've been inspired by the curation of iconic
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  Speaker 1: clips from movies of the past, the or the scenes
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  Speaker 1: that have lived in people's memories that now are surveysurfacing
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  Speaker 1: on my algorithm is really interesting. Like what like you know,
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  Speaker 1: like moments in The Godfather, you know, or like moments
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  Speaker 1: or like just like iconic moments from The Spartans, you
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  Speaker 1: know where where you know, there's this iconic scene the
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  Speaker 1: obviously Jar Butler shout out to Jar Butler, one of
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  Speaker 1: the homies, like I love my guy. He's amazing, and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of grant memories with him. But there's a
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  Speaker 1: moment where he kicks you know, somebody on the chest
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  Speaker 1: and throws him down the pit. You know. But what's
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  Speaker 1: beautiful about that moment that people forget is that in
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  Speaker 1: that moment when he's talking to I guess the Persians
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, forget where who he was talking to, forget
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  Speaker 1: the other character where he was coming from. That because
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  Speaker 1: a lovely actor. And before he does anything, he looks
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  Speaker 1: over at his queen and the queen goes whether not
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  Speaker 1: tells her, tells, tells her our brothers Maximus know what's
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  Speaker 1: what was his name? Nothing?
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  Speaker 2: Maximus was Russell.
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  Speaker 1: No, that was Wressell Crew. By the way, I just
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  Speaker 1: watched the Gladiator again, That's why I said Leonidas. So
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  Speaker 1: he looks at Leoni. So Leonidas, before he does anything,
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  Speaker 1: he looks back to his queen, and his queen gives
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  Speaker 1: them this not like give it, you know, like get
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  Speaker 1: our respect back, and it was all he needed to hear.
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  Speaker 1: And Leonidas just decides we are spartan and like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and kicks him in the chest. And it was this
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  Speaker 1: iconic moment where you're like, this guy gives no shit.
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  Speaker 1: This guy's a bad you know. So this scene like
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  Speaker 1: reminds me that behind every iconic decision a man has
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  Speaker 1: ever made, it's always been It's not it's always, but
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  Speaker 1: most oftentimes it's made with the consideration of family, consideration
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  Speaker 1: of protection, and the confidence of your right hand, you know,
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  Speaker 1: person who is you know, the queen of your home,
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  Speaker 1: you know, or the queen of your life. And he
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  Speaker 1: looks over and she gives she gives him the nod
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  Speaker 1: like go you got permission to go get a respect yea.
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  Speaker 1: And or it could have been the other way, like
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  Speaker 1: don't do it, not worth it, and you would have
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  Speaker 1: just stepped down right like it's like they hold this key,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So that scene popped up on my algorithm.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, these these are the iconic moments
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  Speaker 1: of cinema that I love so much.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so maybe so maybe then then the point
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  Speaker 2: here is to say, you know, if you're bored and
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  Speaker 2: you're going to spend that much time on screen, make
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  Speaker 2: sure your algorithm is for something, is tuned to something
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  Speaker 2: that that that's outside of I don't know, material stuff
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  Speaker 2: or stuff that that changes people.
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  Speaker 1: Have you embraced Instagram as or Facebook as like as
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  Speaker 1: a as a form of inspiration or as a form of.
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  Speaker 2: Instagram I have? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, yeah, Like Facebook is a little problematic.
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  Speaker 2: I don't do Facebook. I should, you know, I get
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  Speaker 2: I just get so overwhelmed by by so much of
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  Speaker 2: that social media that I mean, you know, if I
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  Speaker 2: had a if I had people doing it for me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but but it's just me right now, you know. So
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  Speaker 2: I just do sort of the Instagram stuff and I
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  Speaker 2: like the format of it. I like, I like the
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  Speaker 2: inspirational stuff. Like I followed Lewis Howell, right, who's one
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  Speaker 2: of our guests. I love the stuff he posts. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's stuff like that that that's been like my teacher.
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  Speaker 2: It's been teaching me stuff you know, uh, and even
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  Speaker 2: like you just said, like the cinematic stuff, it just
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  Speaker 2: kind of reminds you of of of moments in cinema
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  Speaker 2: and just like how good, how good certain movies are,
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  Speaker 2: how good certain actors are, how good certain TV shows are?
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  Speaker 2: Right because you wouldn't normally do that. You wouldn't sit
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  Speaker 2: down on your couch and put in a DVD or
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  Speaker 2: look for a movie or scroll to a scene. Right,
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  Speaker 2: It's like it's right there right in front of you bone,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and you get that instant, that instant gratification
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 1: That's great, man. I think I think you you you
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  Speaker 1: come full circuit to a point where you know that
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  Speaker 1: the social media has been giving this like villainize energy.
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  Speaker 1: But I would dare to say that that social media
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  Speaker 1: as a reflection of where you are within your journey
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  Speaker 1: as you know, as a human and as a person.
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  Speaker 1: And sometimes you go into rabbit holes that then eventually
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  Speaker 1: the rabbit holes cultivat's images back to you, and sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you're in search or something very positive, something really you know, definitive.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that I think that Instagram or social
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  Speaker 1: media in general, whether it's TikTok or or x or
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  Speaker 1: threats or whatever you're on. It could be an engine
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  Speaker 1: for inspiration, it could be an engine for creativity, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but he could also be you know, you're poison And
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  Speaker 1: I think it's it's used at the discretion of where
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  Speaker 1: you are in your heart. Yeah, and.
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  Speaker 2: Did you have a hard time turning it off, like
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  Speaker 2: turning your brain off?
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  Speaker 1: I think in general, not with social media. I can
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  Speaker 1: put those social media down anytime, but but I have
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  Speaker 1: a tough time turning off my brain.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, even when you're hanging with the fam.
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  Speaker 1: With that, like if if my daughter, my son's around,
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  Speaker 1: my lady needs me, you know, like I'm there, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm engaged and I'm just occupied doing what they're
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  Speaker 1: doing with them. But the moment like that's taken care
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  Speaker 1: of or everything smooth on that whatever my brain starts,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's like it feels like you know when
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  Speaker 1: RoboCup is is, you know, looking through the through the
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  Speaker 1: vision and all of a sudden you're running files and
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  Speaker 1: folders and like profiles or whatever. My head is like that,
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  Speaker 1: are you are you?
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  Speaker 2: Like damn I should have said X instead of Y
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  Speaker 2: in that meeting or no.
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  Speaker 1: Once I move up from the meeting, I know that
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  Speaker 1: I have the power to email people back, like what
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  Speaker 1: do you mean? Like like, but to your point, it's
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  Speaker 1: like some of us feel like, oh man, I need
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  Speaker 1: to have nailed that meeting. I forgot to say this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And you're like, so You're like, but I can't reach
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  Speaker 1: out to them back or I can't call them back.
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  Speaker 1: I have not at that bone. I'll just email them
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  Speaker 1: with that I forgot. Oh yeah, So I just like
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  Speaker 1: I have I have to get there. Yeah. Yeah, what
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  Speaker 1: about you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, same same, you know, I'm my brain is just
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  Speaker 2: constantly constantly going.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 2: There's there are times that I wake up at like three,
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  Speaker 2: four in the morning and the thing that I was
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  Speaker 2: thinking about at two in the afternoon pops back in
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  Speaker 2: my head and I'm like, oh man, I should have
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  Speaker 2: done this or or or or something that I'm prepping for.
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  Speaker 2: I'll get an idea. I mean there's been times where
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  Speaker 2: I'll if i'm writing or whatever, I'll get an idea
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  Speaker 2: like four in the morning, man, and I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, I got to write this down
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  Speaker 1: or else.
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  Speaker 2: If I go back to sleep, I'm gonna forget it
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  Speaker 2: and it'll be me like like on my phone at
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  Speaker 2: like four in the morning, like, and I can see
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  Speaker 2: Elsie Turner like look at me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh god, you know, but.
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  Speaker 2: She's she's awesome about that stuff. She's really really supportive.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, well that's nice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my house was a little more testy about that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well it's it's because I get it. I get where
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  Speaker 1: they're coming from. But you know, sometimes I'm really not
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  Speaker 1: just recreationally, like it's not recreational for us. Sometimes I'm
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  Speaker 1: just looking at scenes. I'm looking at things. I'm like
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  Speaker 1: looking at inspirations, some things that get like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes I'm getting you know, I'm getting like official news
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  Speaker 1: from something like something's happening overseas. I'm seeing the videos
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  Speaker 1: from both different countries. I'm seeing the perspective like it together.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm always in my head of trying to get
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  Speaker 1: more understanding what's happening outside, you know, the world. And
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  Speaker 1: that's a quick way to kind of pop in and
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  Speaker 1: pop out.
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  Speaker 2: Are you disciplined about like, Okay, it's time to shut
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  Speaker 2: it off, it's time to be with the fam, it's
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: time to watch the same focus.
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  Speaker 1: On Truthfully, we do our best. Yeah, but it's not perfect.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like there'll be a moment of silence and
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: going full circle to our episodes theme and be like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's a funny thing, and then like some
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  Speaker 1: funny meme you know, turns into then the real, then
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: the real turns into a sketch, and then like you know,
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  Speaker 1: I find a stand up comedian. I'm like, oh, he
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  Speaker 1: has a really funny bit on screen, and like and
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  Speaker 1: I go and I'm laughing. So you get my comedy
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  Speaker 1: from there. Because television is so soft hitting when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to comedy. I don't I don't tune to watch
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  Speaker 1: comedy anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Really, yeah, nothing, there's nothing that inspires you. Zero. What
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  Speaker 2: was the last thing that inspired you in the comedic space?
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  Speaker 1: I liked the Studio a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the studio, Yeah, you know, it was crazy, that.
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  Speaker 1: Was really crazy. But I liked that you had to
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: go they had to go there. You know, this is
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  Speaker 1: the end the movie. Yeah, Okay, it's not just Seth Rogan.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Although I love Seth Rogan. He's brilliant, he's a great guy.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I love him. He's a great dude, super respectful, super nice,
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  Speaker 1: very collaborative. He's a good dude. But I think it's
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: like it's that renegade group of people that decide that
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: like they gotta hit hard the other West. Isn't that funny? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: You know, even like Stuve Carole also like I love him,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: you know, he's really good. I haven't watched Rooster, but
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I heard that's really good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, classic like Bill Lawrence, you know, shout
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: out to Bill Scrubs Together Enthusiasm the way, Yeah, that's
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: buck Wild. I like. The stuff that makes me laugh
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: is like like FX had put out like a slew
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: of shows that were like dark comedies, you know, like
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Fargo or like or like Mystery in Between did the show?
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Or even Atlanta? Right, I don't know if you ever
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: dove into Atlanta. It's really weird and quirky and like,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: I like that really sort of weirdo smart humor. It
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: makes me. It makes me think and laugh and a
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: As we kind of kind of wind down into our
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: theme of the episode here, yeah, I would like to
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  Speaker 1: read something that our producers put together. It's really interesting
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  Speaker 1: and in twenty fourteen, University of Virginia study people left
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  Speaker 1: alone in a room with nothing to do but a
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  Speaker 1: button that gave them a mid electric shock often chose
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  Speaker 1: to shock themselves rather than sit quietly in their thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: Roughly two thirds of men and a quarter of women.
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  Speaker 2: So what does that say people can't be alone with
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  Speaker 2: their thoughts. It's they haven't been conditioned to do that,
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  Speaker 2: they have no.
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  Speaker 1: Skill to I mean, what does it say, right? Because, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if they're sitting in a room and the only thing
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  Speaker 1: that's in there is a button that shocks them, maybe
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  Speaker 1: they maybe in within their humanity they are taught to
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  Speaker 1: their living is to feel. Yeah, and if they're not
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  Speaker 1: feeling and sitting in their silence, yeah, does it? There
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  Speaker 1: is there a desperation to continue to know that you're alive?
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  Speaker 1: Did you feel like you're wasting time? And therefore you
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  Speaker 1: might as well feel feel something?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: So you press it and press it and you're like,
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  Speaker 1: at least I'm feeling something. So it's the initial thrill
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  Speaker 1: of like what what does it do? Then it's like
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  Speaker 1: you press the button and it shocks you, and then
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: there's the aftermath of like, I wasn't expecting that, but
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't that bad. But it was bad, but it
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: wasn't that bad. Let me try one more time. And
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: you just made a procedural type of you know, inner
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: investigation on like how far can I go? How many times?
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  Speaker 1: Is it going to feel the same the third time?
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  Speaker 1: What about the fourth time? Now that I'm expecting it,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: is it a different feeling? So it's like the back
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  Speaker 1: and forth kind of fulfills the time. And now three
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: to four minutes went by and you weren't alone. You
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: were just there with the story you were telling yourself. Yeah.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: But when we were kids, right, and we would be
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: alone with our thoughts, but we would always be doing something, right,
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  Speaker 2: There'd be toys, OR'd be i mean, just being.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Finger and the electrical socket over and over and over again,
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  Speaker 1: you know, right.
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  Speaker 2: But but we at least had like toys, or we
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: had like cartoons, or we had coloring books, like there
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  Speaker 2: was something. I mean, that study says like it's either
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: you shock yourself or you're like in solitary confinement in jail.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's what it's saying, right, Like I guess
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: if you're in such an extreme Yeah yeah, yeah, I
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: only know this is incredibly depressing. Yeah it's tough. It's like, yeah, no,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: that's just what it is. But it's interesting to think
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: about that and like, now you now replace that button
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: with your phone and whatever you're swiping on either hurts you,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: worries you, Yeah, makes you feel bad. Dopamine rush it
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: makes you feel Yeah, this makes you escape for that minute,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: it gives you that release, but then you go back
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: to feeling bad. You know. It's like it's the the
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: is the difference between you being sitting by yourself and
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: being content waiting to put snags and like the continue
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: at the breast of the button. But do you think that?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so when we were kids, right, like like we
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: were from that generation. We're from like the TV generation, right,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: which turned on the freaking TV. Right, So what's the
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: difference between.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: What we were doing when we were kids.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: And watching TV then someone looking for their entertainment on
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: their phone as opposed to like what's available putting.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: It on what's available on it?
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: No what I'm saying, But it's the same tick that
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: we had, right, Yeah, we had a tick when we
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: were kids and we would turn on the TV.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Now that aspect, the thing is the same. Yeah, But
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I think what the only difference is that you have
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: access to stuff that we were that we were sheltered from.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and when we were kids, right, we would turn
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: TV on at a certain point and then we would
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: turn it off right and then we would go do
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: other things. We're here, it's like twenty four to seven.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, once the show was over in credits, you went
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: to the backyard.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, you know.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Because you weren't gonna just sit there and watch the
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: news with your dad. You're just gonna go ride a bike.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Now. See the accessibility of it that and it.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Goes by quick, man, Like once you're scrolling yeeah, like
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: this you talk about in the morning, I'm sending your
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: stuff like this, I blink, it's three am. I'm like, oh,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I gotta put this down.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, especially when it's funny.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Man, right, so I send you some funny stuff. But no, yeah, yeah,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: so stupid. Well, we're gonna spare everyone, uh you know,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: the what what we send each other on Instagram because
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: it's so silly. But thank you for listening. Great perspective,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: great things to think about as we continue to curate
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: our life and experiences and the things that we do
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: to kind of connect with one another. And if no thoughts, no, hey,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: this is Wilmar Valdarama's just Freddie Rodriguez And see you
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: guys in the next one,