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Patriots Catch-22 4/22: Top 10 Mock Draft, Latest Buzz, Prospects & Predictions · Patriots Catch-22

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  Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan
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  Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex Bars.
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  Speaker 2: Blazarre and Lazarn. Hello, everybody nailed it? Joined us always
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  Speaker 2: Here is Evan Lazar and Alex Bars.
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, I've anticipated in the Felers.
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  Speaker 2: Big board and for those of you that don't know, they
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  Speaker 2: take a football at the marker on the end of
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  Speaker 2: it and they throw it at it. Was it Lindy's or.
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  Speaker 3: Like Lindy's magazine up on a board on a board,
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  Speaker 3: and then the idea is that they can literally throw
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  Speaker 3: darts at a magazine and do just as good as
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  Speaker 3: you and I do at predicting what the Patriots are
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  Speaker 3: gonna do.
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  Speaker 1: I guess and you.
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  Speaker 3: Gotta throw yeah, and you hit.
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  Speaker 2: The camera on the top of the board, which.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad I brought that. I was, I was, we
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  Speaker 1: were having meetings before. I was like, we just put
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  Speaker 1: a camera on the top of the board. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad I came up with that, because otherwise it would
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  Speaker 1: just sales to board if I was aiming for the
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  Speaker 1: camera and hit it. That is an unbelievably impressive broke.
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  Speaker 1: You have to admit that that is not a big camera,
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  Speaker 1: and I hate it right the freaking lens too. I'm
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  Speaker 1: proud of at the end, I'm not giving a new
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  Speaker 1: credit when the goal was to hit the magazine and
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  Speaker 1: not the camera. Yeah, I wish I picked.
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  Speaker 4: A better player.
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  Speaker 5: Twenty two world bars.
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  Speaker 2: We've made it, guys, almost twenty four hours. Is this like,
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  Speaker 2: does this feel a little bit like Christmas Eve?
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  Speaker 1: For you?
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  Speaker 2: What were Jewish? But you know, like kind of like
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  Speaker 2: what you think Christmas Eve would feel like or like, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, New Year's Eve.
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  Speaker 1: I guess when the Patriots used to trade back all
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  Speaker 1: the time, my friend, that's what felt like the Jewish
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  Speaker 1: kid on Christmas everybody else is getting and then they
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  Speaker 1: made some good picks and they moved back.
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  Speaker 2: I would that out.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't rull it out either. I actually put a
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  Speaker 1: new mock draft up this morning and I have that
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  Speaker 1: in there, and I don't think it would be the
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  Speaker 1: worst scenario. We can get to that. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was weird.
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking about it, trying, but you didn't answer
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  Speaker 2: my question.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I was getting to it. I was thinking about
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  Speaker 1: driving in this morning that like it doesn't it does?
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  Speaker 2: There was so much This is our time to shine the.
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  Speaker 1: Last two years, it really felt like crossing a finish
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  Speaker 1: line and the anticipation was massive on and that's exactly it.
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  Speaker 1: Remember what I said at the beginning of the off
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  Speaker 1: season after the Super Bowl, this is going to be
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  Speaker 1: a sprint, not a marathon. And the last couple of
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  Speaker 1: years it was like, Okay, put in all the work,
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  Speaker 1: all that, like like I'm ready, let's go in this year,
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  Speaker 1: it's just like, Okay, I got it all in, thank goodness,
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  Speaker 1: got everything done, made it to the end. Like it
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  Speaker 1: really did feel like a sprint. So it feels come
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  Speaker 1: on here. It's still no, no, no, still feels cool
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  Speaker 1: and rewarding, but it feels very different.
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  Speaker 2: It feels very super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Does it not feel different than it felt the last
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  Speaker 1: two years getting to the end of the process.
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  Speaker 2: It does. But I'm getting kind of annoyed with this
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  Speaker 2: notion that like this draft doesn't mean as much or
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  Speaker 2: as an exciting and like, but this is for our
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  Speaker 2: type of people, for our people, for us, for our listeners.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care if they're picking first or thirty first,
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  Speaker 2: Like the draft is it matters, It matters, there doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: Matter, and they're gonna pick somebody.
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  Speaker 6: This is not.
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  Speaker 2: You know, my feeling is about drafts and other sports
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  Speaker 2: besides football and basketball.
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  Speaker 1: No, I even basketball now well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the end of the basket. I'm talking lottery pick
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  Speaker 2: style though, Like the NFL draft, that player that they
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  Speaker 2: pick at thirty one is gonna make an immediate impact.
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  Speaker 2: Like but whatever way it goes, he's gonna play, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and he's gonna have a chance. It's not like a
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  Speaker 2: baseball draft or you draft the guy and you see
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  Speaker 2: him four years later, right Like this is you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: get this player at thirty one. And even though it's
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  Speaker 2: not gonna be the players that you were getting at
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  Speaker 2: three and four over the last two drafts, or even
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  Speaker 2: seventeen with Christian Gonzales the draft before that, that player
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  Speaker 2: is still going to be good enough to hopefully contribute
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  Speaker 2: to the Patriots immediately. So that's still a big addition
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  Speaker 2: to this team. And so I'm very excited about it.
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  Speaker 2: I understand that, you know, I was kind of getting
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  Speaker 2: at it just now.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lack of buzz.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lack of for the entire draft this year. Well,
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  Speaker 2: so it doesn't feel the same for the entire draft,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm trying to bring it back.
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  Speaker 1: Because I think it's fair and I've said it time
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  Speaker 1: and time again. I'll continue to say it. You cannot
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  Speaker 1: have sustained success in the NFL without drafting well. The
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  Speaker 1: teams that have sustained success like drafting well at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the first round is what keeps you picking
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the first round. So if you
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  Speaker 1: want them to stay back here, drafting well matters, especially
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  Speaker 1: when you have these contracts looming for Christian Zalez and
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  Speaker 1: for Drake May and maybe a wide receiver from Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see what happens there, but I think that's important.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing, I as much as I love the
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  Speaker 1: draft and as much as I'm excited, I think I
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  Speaker 1: said this to you on Monday or yes, say whatever
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  Speaker 1: it was, that these three days are always but not
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  Speaker 1: even stressful. They just bugged the crap out of me
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  Speaker 1: because everybody's come up with everything there is to talk about,
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  Speaker 1: and now we're doing Jermad McCoy at thirty one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like I the draft, the draft process I feel like
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  Speaker 1: always goes on one week too long, and now I'm
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  Speaker 1: at the point where like, let's go, let's make some picks.
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  Speaker 1: So although they're doing you know what they're doing tonight.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw it. So they do
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  Speaker 1: this every year, the all the teams NFL operations I
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  Speaker 1: think tweeted this out. Let me find the actual they're
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  Speaker 1: doing a mock draft. They do a mock trail.
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  Speaker 2: They just are doing it to make sure the technology
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  Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's.
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  Speaker 1: A technology, right, So everybody, everybody, all but all the
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  Speaker 1: teams are on the call and they all get ready
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  Speaker 1: and they.
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  Speaker 2: Don't actually make pick.
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  Speaker 1: Teams use it to practice their systems. Well, no, they
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  Speaker 1: make fake picks. I think it is how it works.
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  Speaker 1: Like you call in like a fake name, who would
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  Speaker 1: be your fake pick?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Willie Beman. I was gonna I was gonna say, well,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, isn't that the obvious answer?
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  Speaker 1: Did he go to college? Where did he go to college?
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  Speaker 2: I probably like, isn't it like Miami or whatever, like
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  Speaker 2: the Miami for Miami that was the team? Oh, I
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  Speaker 2: mean like that.
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  Speaker 1: I forgot googled him. I forgot there's a real Willy
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  Speaker 1: Beaman that played in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty obvious that you're you're there. I have two
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  Speaker 2: answers to that question. Willy Beaman is obviously the one
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  Speaker 2: that came off right at the top of my head.
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  Speaker 2: That's an easy that's number one with it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: by far, Shane Falco is number two, because I think
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  Speaker 2: The Replacements is a very underrated That was week.
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  Speaker 1: I was watching The replace Those are the top those two,
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  Speaker 1: Anne Falco and or you don't have a Shane Falco jersey?
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  Speaker 1: Why wind up? Because Shane Falco? What do you mean why?
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  Speaker 1: Although because if you look at the jerseys in the movie,
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  Speaker 1: it just looks like a Scott Zolac throwback.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the wide receiver that had to wear stick them.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't catch anything. I always when I was a
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  Speaker 2: kid watching The Replacements, I always thought that was Bethel Johnson.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, like, and then this guy does Bethel Johnson,
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  Speaker 2: you know? But anyways, the.
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  Speaker 1: Willy Beaman went to Houston, by the way. But here's
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  Speaker 1: the thing. If you're if you're picking thirty first, I
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  Speaker 1: thought somebody has probably already taken Willy Beman.
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  Speaker 2: That's fair, So you have to you have to go
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  Speaker 2: real deep.
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  Speaker 1: You'd have to go real deep.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like you don't want to take Ryan Reynolds, sir,
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  Speaker 2: what's his name? Not Ryan gosling from.
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  Speaker 1: A liability coverage.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to take that.
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  Speaker 1: You go Dad Castle, Blue Mountain State.
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  Speaker 2: And get.
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  Speaker 1: That's such a bad show.
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  Speaker 2: Is so corny? Oh god, show is horrible. Come on.
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  Speaker 2: One of the guys names is Sammy Katchatory. That's a
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  Speaker 2: great character. His last name is Catgatory. That's hilarious corny. Anyways,
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  Speaker 2: let's get let's get serious. Okay, let's get silly. Start
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  Speaker 2: to the show.
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  Speaker 1: This is how the show. This show is very We've
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  Speaker 1: done it. The hate is the hay in the barn
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  Speaker 1: for you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it feels good.
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  Speaker 1: So I have I I have this huge checklist. We
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  Speaker 1: use the sonnets like a back end checklist, and I
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  Speaker 1: put everything I'm going to do pre draft in like
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  Speaker 1: at the start of February, and it's always a long list,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh man, this is going to be
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  Speaker 1: so much this the next two months of my life.
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  Speaker 1: I have one thing left to check off my asana
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  Speaker 1: that I'm doing after the show. I can't wait. And
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  Speaker 1: I think you already do this. I try to pre
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  Speaker 1: write a couple of potential picks when the picks already
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  Speaker 1: did that. It's a little harder this year I think
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  Speaker 1: I only did like three or four last year. This
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  Speaker 1: year is so going to be closer to ten.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good way to tease. I think at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the show we're going to talk about who
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  Speaker 2: we think is actually going to be to pick at
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  Speaker 2: thirty one. I'm going to tease that, and I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to make you listen all the way to the very end.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll do that. It's got to be the last
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  Speaker 1: thing we say of the pre draft.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll also tell everybody who the five pre rights
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  Speaker 2: I did, because I think that's very telling as well,
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  Speaker 2: the five guys that I've already pre written. With the
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  Speaker 2: thirty first pick in the two thousands, five I did. Five.
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  Speaker 1: I've going to have more than five. Five that is
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  Speaker 1: bold of you.
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  Speaker 2: With the twenty thirty first pick in the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: six NFL Draft in New England Patriots select dot dot dot.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to that at the end of the show.
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  Speaker 2: We're also going to do our top ten man drafts.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't done a full NFL first round mock or
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  Speaker 2: anything like that. We don't really do that obviously on
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  Speaker 2: Patriots dot Com. You already have, so it might be redundant.
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  Speaker 1: For you.
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  Speaker 2: But this will be the only place where I'll talk
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  Speaker 2: about the top ten of the draft really in great detail,
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  Speaker 2: So that'll be fun. But I want to actually start
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  Speaker 2: the show with AJ Brown.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like we've.
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  Speaker 2: Tried our best, and I've tried to steer us kind
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  Speaker 2: of away from that as much as possible over the
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  Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. I get that people are kind
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  Speaker 2: of sick and tired of talking about it. It's also
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  Speaker 2: a draft show, so I want, you know, we want
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  Speaker 2: to be more draft centric, but the whole thing. And
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  Speaker 2: I know Mike Vrabel yesterday and his scrummy talked about
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  Speaker 2: how it doesn't really change much for their approach in
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  Speaker 2: the draft if they are going to acquire AJ Brown.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not calling him a liar. I'm just saying that
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  Speaker 2: that I can't really see how that's even possible. Like,
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  Speaker 2: if you know that you're going to acquire AJ Brown
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  Speaker 2: in June, I don't see how that doesn't impact your
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  Speaker 2: plans like it has to. I think it it.
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  Speaker 1: Does to an extent, but it can't. Like I've had
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  Speaker 1: people calling in the Sports of and ask could they
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  Speaker 1: do like the NBA thing where they draft a player
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  Speaker 1: for the Eagles and then just trade that player. You
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  Speaker 1: don't have AJ Brown till you have them. There's an
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  Speaker 1: idiom you have. You haven't caught the fish, so you've
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  Speaker 1: got it in the boat, right And what happens if
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: and Schefter kind of alluded to this his reporting on Monday,
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  Speaker 1: like as that, and I'm paraphrasing here, but as this
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  Speaker 1: environment exists right now, the most likely outcome seems to
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  Speaker 1: be a J. Brown becoming a Patriot. What happens if
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  Speaker 1: some teams star wide receiver twists his knee the first
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  Speaker 1: day of OTAs Now they're super desperate because they're in
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  Speaker 1: a contention window, and they throw something beyond what the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots willing to offer at the Eagles, because again they're
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  Speaker 1: desperate and they need to Well, now you've done this draft,
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: but you don't want to go too far the other
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  Speaker 1: way either, and draft like Denzel Boston to be your
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  Speaker 1: ex when AJ Brown's gonna come in and play the X.
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  Speaker 1: And now Denzel Boston is a first round pick who's
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  Speaker 1: not getting on the field. So it's a weird spot
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  Speaker 1: to be in. I don't think it should. You need
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  Speaker 1: to leave yourself room for the contingency that you don't
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  Speaker 1: get them. I think you can operate with the idea
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  Speaker 1: that you're probably getting them, but you need to. And
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  Speaker 1: this is where we've talked about like Jean Strippling or CJ.
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  Speaker 1: Daniels or guys like that, were like, you're not using
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  Speaker 1: that significant pick, but there is some sort of contingency
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  Speaker 1: plan just in case the unexpected happens, because this is
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  Speaker 1: the NFL and the unexpected does tend.
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  Speaker 2: I want to get back into a corner where you
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  Speaker 2: are now you have to land the player. But I
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  Speaker 2: actually still feel like the Eagles have less leverage than
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots would be giving up if they didn't draft
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  Speaker 2: a receiver high. The egos don't. I like, here's the
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  Speaker 2: thing that I feel like with AJ Brown, and this
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  Speaker 2: is where I'm at it with it today. And I
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  Speaker 2: understand the Schefter reporting. I was arguing with Paul yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Did anything really change based off when Adam Schefter comes
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  Speaker 2: out and says it's likely that something is going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: I listen, Uh, you know, other people, no disrespect, but
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  Speaker 2: it's Adam Schefter. I take that pretty strongly. If I'm
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots though, with AJ Brown, and I want to
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  Speaker 2: be clear, I would take a J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown.
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  Speaker 2: We all would. I think I like the player, I
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  Speaker 2: won't want the player. It's not anything like that. With
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  Speaker 2: that being said, it's a game of chicken right now
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  Speaker 2: with Hallie Roseman. And if I'm the Patriots, I'm calling
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  Speaker 2: Howie Roseman's bluff because just looking at the landscape of
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  Speaker 2: where AJ Brown is in his career, going to be
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  Speaker 2: twenty nine years old, going off of one of his
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  Speaker 2: worst recent seasons in terms of production in his career,
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  Speaker 2: showing some signs, I would say legitimate signs of potential
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  Speaker 2: decline and being a declining player. There's all this scuttle
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  Speaker 2: belt whether.
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  Speaker 1: It's true or not.
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  Speaker 2: It's just rumored that his knee is not in great shape,
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  Speaker 2: all these different things. Not giving up a first round
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  Speaker 2: pick for AJ Brown, and I'm especially not giving up
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  Speaker 2: a first round pick in twenty twenty seven for AJ Brown. Now,
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  Speaker 2: you could get creative. You can't protect picks like get
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  Speaker 2: Ay do in the NBA, where this pick's top ten protected,
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  Speaker 2: top fifteen protected. You could do a trade with contingencies
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  Speaker 2: like it's a second round pick, but it becomes a
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  Speaker 2: firm to do that if the Patriots make the playoffs
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  Speaker 2: or something like that, like maybe that that's in play,
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  Speaker 2: but just looking, someone's gonna have to tell me where
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  Speaker 2: the precedent is for a receiver in AJ Brown's where
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  Speaker 2: he is at in his career, where he is at
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  Speaker 2: in terms of how he produced on the field last
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  Speaker 2: year that player netting a first round pick because to me,
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  Speaker 2: I don't see a ton of it. Now DeVante Adams did.
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  Speaker 2: But Devanta Adams was coming off of a sixteen hundred
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  Speaker 2: yard season with the Pas.
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I can tell you where the president is in Buffalo.
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  Speaker 1: If DJ Moore is worth a second, a J. Brown
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  Speaker 1: is worth more.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a goal, it's not that's not apples dapples
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  Speaker 2: to me, like just saying like, if that's what this
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  Speaker 2: guy is worth, I'm that's what.
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  Speaker 1: The Eagles are gonna say.
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  Speaker 4: A J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown is a better player and DJ Moore? DJ Moore
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  Speaker 1: went for a second.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't buy.
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  Speaker 1: It, like dig So this is this is the negotiation,
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  Speaker 1: This is the backup. Okay, But and you gotta you
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  Speaker 1: gotta win the game of chicken against Howie Roseman.
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  Speaker 2: Diggs from Buffalo to Houston went for a second round
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  Speaker 2: pick and fourth and some extra state.
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  Speaker 1: Diggs was the second and fourth. Metcalf was a second
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  Speaker 1: and a five to six swap. Those are the two.
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  Speaker 1: Those should be the two. Metcalf and A J.
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  Speaker 2: Brown were in the same draft, right if you're basically
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  Speaker 2: the same age. I think Metcalf is a little bit younger.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a difference in two years because the
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  Speaker 1: trade sauce a year later. But that's what the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: are gonna say, And what the Bills are gonna say
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  Speaker 1: is DJ Moore and they're gonna say Jayleen Waddle.
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  Speaker 2: And I well, Jalen Waddle is two years younger, right,
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  Speaker 2: like Jalen Waddle was a twenty twenty one draft pick.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna say, this is what wide receiver ones are
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  Speaker 1: going for. Yeah, I I call it bluff. I called
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: b That's as they should. Yeah, like this is this
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: is you gotta win the negotiation.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: That's what training is. I would trade a second round
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: pick for AJ Brown. Yep, I might be convinced and
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: to trading a protected somehow first, you know, second.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: That conditional it either becomes a first if the Patriots
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: make the playoffs or A J. Brown makes the Pro
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Bowl or has like twelve hundred yards or whatever. You
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: put it. It could be an individual, it could be a team.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: I guess probably makes more sense to put the team
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: on it, right, Yeah, yeah, Patriots, as you're trying to
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: get it.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: If it pick is in the twenties, then fine, right,
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: you know, if it pick is in the teams.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: The scary thing about trading it is the unknown. So
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: if you can put that kind of qualifier on it,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: and it's not like hawk or basketball where the next
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: year's pick conveys, it's just so the Eagles who know
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: they're getting a pick basically somewhere between twenty and forty.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: The reason why I feel this way too is just
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: reading tea leaves and reading the reporting on it. I
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: don't think that there's some huge market for aj Brown.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: There's obviously there's always a possibility that somebody could tear
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: at ACL and mini camp and all of a sudden
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: there's another team that's interested. They run that risk with
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: every single trade, in every single player, in every single situation.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's a huge market for him. I
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: don't think that there's a lot of precedent for there
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: being a huge market for a player that's in the
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: position that he's in, right now and ultimately I think
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: the most important thing is that I think that this
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: is beyond repair in Philadelphia, Like I don't think Aj
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Brown can be an Eagle in twenty twenty six. Well,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: so that that's where it is, Like they kind of
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: have to move the player if nobody's offering a first,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: and Howie Rosman thinks he's worth a first and wants
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: to save face on this. Nothing needs to save facebig picture,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: He's done a tremendous job building that team.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: But you get what I'm saying, right Yeah, Does he
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: hold on Aj Brown and hope that some team gets
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: desperate and something better comes along, or does he take
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: the best offer on the table, knowing he has to
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: get Brown out of there, even if the best are
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: offer on the table is not what he actually believes
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Aj Brown is worth.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: I think that there's a situation in this, in this
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: particular Sitch situation, and this is happening a little bit
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: more in the league. It's obviously a big thing in
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: other sports. I think Aj Brown is going to force
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: his way out and maybe you won't do it. Isn't
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: gonna do it publicly. He's not gonna like go and
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: throw a tirade. He's not gonna be t o in
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: his driveway.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: You know, do just that over Trader contract.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: And I don't think he's gonna do all any of
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, right, But I just don't see
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: how the Eagles and AJ Brown proceed together. So if
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: you're the Patriots, you're saying you need to get rid
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: of this player like this. You don't want him, he
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: doesn't want you. This marriage is over. So like we're
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: just not going to We're not gonna bend. And so
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: I'm giving up a second. I would entertain a second
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: that becomes the first. If the Patriots going to make
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: the playoffs next year, whatever contingencies you want to put
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: on it, I'm not giving up anymore for AJ Brown.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: If they feel like they need to draft a receiver,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: you know, I took a receiver on Day three in
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: my last mock draft. They feel like they need to
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: take a receiver at some point in the draft, go,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: you know, to hedge their bets and put a backstop
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: on it in case they don't get AJ Brown. They
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: go ahead and do that, but I still feel like
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: it changes the Patriots outlook in the top one hundred,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know how. I don't unless you are
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: in a situation at thirty one, and I'll just give you,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: like a scenario. Tyson's not falling right, Like that's that
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: pipe dreams over with. But let's say they really do
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: like Cacc a lot, Like, let's say they really fell
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: in love with Casey Concepcion during the pre draft process.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: If he makes it to thirty.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: One, then then and they take him, I'm not going
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: to kill him for it, like fine, But to me,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: that takes Aj Brown off the table.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Cacc takes Aj Brown off. So KCC I would argue,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: is the one receiver that doesn't.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not talking about stylistically though, I'm talking about
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: investment in the position. Yeah, you paid Romeo Dobbs a
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: big free agent contract. You are trading a first you're
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: drafting a receiver with the first round pack, and now
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: you're going to trade a second round pick in twenty
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: twenty seven also for a receiver.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, too much, he said, trade a second too much.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: It's too much at one position.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but Brown, Dobbs conception own like that. You're gonna
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: live in that in eleven and that's a really good
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: group that's a.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Great group, but it's just too much like what are
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: they what are they doing on the edge, what are
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: they doing at depth? On offensive line? What's going on
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: the edge?
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll answer all that. On the edge, I still
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: think you can get an impact player at sixty three.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe you're trading up a little bit. Okay, what else
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: did you say?
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: Uh?
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Dep depth? So if they don't take a tackle back
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: first okay, one at a time. If they don't take
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: a tackle in the first round, yeah, they're not getting
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: a tackle. Like it's all project players from there on out.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: So I'm not losing. The tackle question is the same
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: if they draft an edge, So that thing looms regardless
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: of what you do tight end. I think you got
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: some good options at ninety five. I think you've got
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: some good options even your big injuries guy, Like, you've
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: got some options early on Day three. Offensive line depth
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: that's separate from tackle again, I think you can address
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: on day three. I think I just base it so
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: all right, so we'll go conception on on the first.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: So you're gonna draft the day three lineman hoping that
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: that guy is going to be good enough to be
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: a swing tackle as a rookie and hopefully push at
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: first starting physician.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: If they take Okay right tackle Kate casey Ce at
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: thirty one, casey c at thirty one, Yeah, gab Achis
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: or Derek Moore at sixty three, whoever you like better?
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Mark hal Bell at ninety five, injuries at one twenty five,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Wright at one thirty one. I think you said
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: linebacker in there, fine with all and Aiden Fisher at
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: one seventy one. Like, I think that's I'm fine with
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: all that, but I'm not then going and trading a
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: high pick in twenty twenty seven for a J.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Brown.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I think he's still good a way. I's it's a
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: lot of assets at one position.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I don't need to do that.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: You don't need to. You don't need to. But I
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: think that that would be if it's just a second
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: round pick, I would still do that.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a lot of it.
• 21:02
  Speaker 8: Is.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: It's not what I would personally do, but I think
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I said you would do that. I said this is
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: what it would look like. I don't think it's like
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: an inexcusable thing to consider.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: I would also just say that whether I would do
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: like I do not think that they would invest that
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: much at wide receiver, both from a because remember, at
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, when you make a draft pick,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: you're it's also even though it's not necessarily a financial
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: commitment in terms of it's a ton of money, you're
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: you're using that asset as a financial commitment for the
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: next four or five years to have a guy on
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: a rookie contract and all that good stuff. So you're
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: gonna pay Romeo Dobbs a substantial amount of money and
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: free agency, You're gonna pay aj Brown a substantial contract
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: while he's on the roster, and you're gonna use one
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: of your better assets a first round pick this year
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: in another wide receiver. Yeah, it was to me. It's
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: just not cost effective. It does you're not allocating resources.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: It's not a great allocation of resources. It is a
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: tremendous investment in Drake may Well.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: He's got to be upright in order to thread it all.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: So again, if you want to say like there's a
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: very strong case to take a tackle at thirty one,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I've been there. You're you're going back and forth on
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: this because I'm not a couple of weeks ago you
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: said you didn't want them to be.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: It's in twenty twenty seven, like, so like now, like
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: at some point I need to draft a tackle, whether
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: it's this year, it's next year. But now, if I'm
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: giving up an asset for AJ Brown next year, which
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: if you listen to all the reporting, I'm saying, I
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: wouldn't give up more than the second. They might have
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: to give up more.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, they might have to give up their first round pick.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: And so now like at some point in the next
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: two drafts, and you're gonna have to draft the right.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Tackle, well, you'd still have your first next year.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: If you if you got AJ Brown for less than
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: the FI I'm.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Still saying I wouldn't give up the first ranger. I'm
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: with you on that.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, then you might not get AJ Brown, Well.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Then you better draft case he concept you. So like
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: this is he's not gonna be there, so it doesn't matter.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I just feel like this is kind of a in
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: my opinion, this is kind of a one or the
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: other situation.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that might be over if they were to
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: do it. That, in my mind is how it would work,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: and it wouldn't be like a disaster.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's going to be a disaster, and
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: it would be a hell of a lot of fun
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: to have Drake may throw into all those different types
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: of guys. It just it's there's other positions on the
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: roster that they have to take care of, and I
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: just don't know if I love the allocation of resources
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: investing in all in wide receiver. And yeah, it would
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: be great. It would be fun to watch. It certainly
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: would be great to finally not have to continue to
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: talk about wide receiver every April, you know, like maybe
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: we'd finally get out of that cycle. But offensive line
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: depth and especially tackle depth would be a big concern
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: of mine pass rush off the edge. Like maybe if
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: you can get that guy in the second round, I still,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: you know, I like a lot of the guys that
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: they can get at the second round. I'm not sure
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: that guy is going to be a three down player,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: though it might be somebody that has a specialty, you know,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: really good edge setter the first round going to be
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: a three down player. I think there's a couple that
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: could be. Okay, you know, I don't know, like I'm
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: gonna you're your opinion is probably gonna be the one
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: that gets is going to win the popular vote here
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: because everybody would sign up for a J Brown, KCC
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: and Romeo Dobs like that's just fun. And if we're
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: playing fantasy football, that's just fun.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I look, I know you can't drop that much into it,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: but if they were like as long as it's like
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Denzel Boston, No, I don't think Denzel Boston works. If
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: you're trying to just that's just loading up to that.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: That's just adding wide receivers because of the position. Yeah,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I don't love that. But I think with KCC, just
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: because you can slot everybody in, it would work fair enough.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: All right, Well that was a good debate because because
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: you know what I know, I'm my take is probably
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: going to be unpopular, and the fact that I wouldn't
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: do all of that, but I just I look at it,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: look at the whole football team. I think they need
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of help in other areas to make you work.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: You're really threading the needle. If you were to make
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: that work, you have to really thread.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: The You're really, in my opinion, counting on two things.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: You're counting on the edge rusher. You're drafting at sixty
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: three us to be right about the gap right right,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: that the edge rusher at sixty three is not that
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: much worse than the edge rusher at thirty one, which
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: is the way that a lot of us, I'm going
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: to speak for myself, I think you are on the
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: same page. We kind of feel like this is one
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: of those classes where that might actually be the case.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: But if there's some insane run of edge rushers on
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: you know, the let's say at the top of the
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: second round, you know, and r Mason Thomas and mal
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Ki Lawrence and Gay Achis and you know, maybe Derek Moore,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Like if all those guys are gone by the time
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: you get to pick sixty three, I don't know if
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I feel that way as much anymore. Like now you're
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: trying to get into the dds key on Crawford's maybe
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: borrow them, you know, like that sort of category, you know,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Ramelow height, you know, those types of players and the
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: offensive line would really concern me because I think what
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: you would really be counting on is hitting a lottery
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: ticket on day three at tackle.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think you may have to do that anyway.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: You might if the if the seven tackles go before
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: pick thirty one, which could very well happen like that
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: decision might be made for you.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: That's fair, it absolutely might, and that that's to me
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: what this draft comes down to, because I think at
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, they're picking at thirty one.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: If they pick at thirty one, they're picking between edgresser
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: and tackle. Like I think that I would probably see
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: them going tackle if one of those guys falls. Maybe
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: not Lomu Like he's the one guy that I still
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: am not totally sold on. But if Miller Oreana Chor
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: is there at thirty one, I think he would be
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: the pick. But if that player isn't there, then I
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: think they're going edge like wide receiver these other positions.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: To me, they have to have really fallen in love
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: with somebody in the pre draft process for them to
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: do that over those two that when I did my
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: final mack, it came down to am I gonna do
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: tackle again or am I gonna go edge? Like it's
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: like those are the two spots. Let's do our top ten. Max.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I ha seen the phones and the emails. Everybody wants
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: to get involved, So we'll try to go quickly through
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: this because it's not really that patriot centric to be honest,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: but I think it's still a useful exercise to change.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Mind since the one I put out earlier this week,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: because there's been more noise.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: So okay, uh we can Can we skip over one
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: banana Mendoza men? The one little take I'm gonna say
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: about Mendoza, I personally am surprised, and I think it's
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: just because it's boring because everybody's known Mendoza is going
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: to the Raiders for six months. I think Mendoza is
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: not getting enough credit for how good of a prospect
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: he is. I think Mendoza is a really good quarterback prospect,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: like probably you know in that same Caleb Williams, Drake
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: made it and Daniels Tier.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I think he's like half a step below that.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I think he's pretty close to that tier, if not
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: in it.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, all right, so we'll put
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: him rank them. We'll go back to the last few years Mendoza, Ward,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, jayde and Daniels Drake, May, Bryce Young, CJ.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Stroud, some good guys and rank them. There's a lot
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: of guys to rank. Cam Ward's definitely.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I guess what they were. Anthony Richardson into I was
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: trying to talk.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: I don't have to do. The only other one that
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: was cam Woard is definitely at the bottom, you know,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: he's he's the worst as prospects.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Like how you felt about them coming out.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's hard.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I would say.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Drake draft I still think.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Is the top. No individual like individual.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I know, but I still think you still Caleb, Jaden Daniels,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: and Drake May were s tier prospects.
• 28:30
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Uh, I didn't really like Bryce Young coming.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: In either small I would I would go Drake's draft
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: in that order, I think is how I had them.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I think I would go Drake's draft one, two, three.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I think I had it Caleb, Drake, Daniels, if I
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: remember correctly.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I kept going back and forth. Maybe Daniels, I don't remember.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I don't remember. I probably finished with me somewhere in
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: that top three. Mendoza, Okay, Stroud, Bryce Young, cam Ward.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I'd probably switch cam Ward and Bryce Young and then
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I'd be there. I wasn't that into that's fair Bryce Young.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I think Bryce Young was a little bit more accurate
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: and a little bit better of a passer coming out
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: than cam Ward was.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just the sized thing all he the sized
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: thing always. I'm sizest when it comes to quarterback.
• 29:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: I well that that's just what surprises me about Mendoza,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: because Mendoza has a size. He good size, Yeah, and
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I think it's underrated. Like he's got a great frame
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: on him, like dense, like big dude.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: He's built like an old school All these quarterbacks now
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: are like these lean like kind of stick figure guys. Yeah,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: he's six five forty, Like he's a tank.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: He's a dude's a tank. I really really think that
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: his arm talent is good enough. I've never been super
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: high on his arm talent, Like I don't think that
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: he's got a rocket or anything like that. But you
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: watch him throw, you know, I did watch a lot
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: of like Omar Cooper and a Serrat and stuff obviously,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: and you watch him throw those back shoulders and his
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: anticipation on those outs and stuff like that, it's really
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: really good, like pro caliber arm strength into the boundary
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: and really good timing with those throws as well. I
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: think he sees it feel pretty well. He's not super mobile,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: but when he put together some of the NFL style
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: throws that he has on film with the IQ and
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: the makeup and the you know, and then obviously the
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: body type. I think he's a pretty good prospect, Like,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: maybe not as good as those three that we mentioned,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: but I think he's probably closer to that group than
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: he is to the Bryce Youngs and the cam Wards
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: of the world.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: My one take on the Raiders at one actually doesn't
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: have to do with the first overall pick. I think
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I've said this on this show before, but everybody looks
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: at like the Jets at thirty three and the Cardinals
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: at thirty four as teams that could move up the
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Raiders at thirty six. They have some extra assets you
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: really want to maximize taking this kid first overall. If
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: a receiver falls like Boston or Conception, or one of
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: the tackles falls, moving up from thirty six to grab
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: the faller, either at tackle or at receiver could be
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: a really good investment in Fernando Mendoza, because I don't
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: know that those guys are getting all the way to
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: thirty six. So now I know Patriots fans probably don't
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: want to hear that because they're trade down and right.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: If I was to need uh, sorry to cut you off.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: But if I was the Raiders, I would I would
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: go after Sarrat like I think Gomark Cooper junior is
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: uh is. It would be a fine pick for them.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: With Mendoz obviously they played together and had success together.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: But the way that he wants to throw the ball
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: down the field and attack down the field, the outs,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: the back shoulders, the high point, like to me like
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Surrat was really kind of his binkie, Like that was
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: the guy that he trusted the most. Cooper was the
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: more explosive player obviously and the much better ball carrier
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: after the catch, but I think Sarrat was kind of
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: like his third and had to have it his clutch
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: like late in games. One of the things I really
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: like about Sarrat is how good he was big in
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: you know, in clutch situations, you know, tight and late right,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Like had some really big catches down the stretch for them.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's the kind of guy that's going
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: to be like his make him feel comfortable.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: The one thing I'd worry about is he going to
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: be too comfortable with somebody who's familiar and you want
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: him spreading the ball more. In the NFL that has
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: worked a lot with getting quarterbacks to college receiver, but
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: usually you do that in year two or year three.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: You can go draft Charlie Becker next year. Who's that guy?
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: He kept throwing the jump balls too. I had them
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: just for an example in my mock. I had them
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: moving up to twenty eight with the Texans, and it's
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: basically the exact same trade the Texans made last year
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: when they moved back with the Giants. So it's twenty
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: eight for thirty six one two in a future third
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: and taking Maxie Honachre Because I don't think Delmar Glaze
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: is a starting right tackle in the NFL. I just
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: don't think he's good enough. I might be, and if
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: you have to start the season with Glaze and then transition,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: you probably can. But you're gonna have two really good
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: tackles with Colton Miller on the other side, keeping Fanana
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Mendoz up right. I think that would make a lot
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: of sense. Don't sleep on the Raiders being a trade
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: up team.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, number two the Jets. So I think it's between
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: two eyes for the Jets, David Bailey or RVL Rees.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: But what I keep coming back to, and maybe they're
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: a little bit arrogant and they're just gonna trust themselves.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Rvel Reeses is kind of a interesting projection. It's kind
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: of hard to is he a linebacker? Is he an
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: edge dresser? His best role is probably doing a little
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: bit of both. Like, that's a pretty creative player to
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: take on a coaching staff that you're not entirely sold on,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Like are you if you're the Jets new general manager?
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Who I butcher his name every single time? But if
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: you're the Jets new general manager, how confident are you
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: and Aaron Glenn figuring out rvel rees and his deployment
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: in figuring out how to use that kind of player.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: So with all those sort of let's call them small
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: sea concerns, because I think rvel rees is a hell
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: of a prospect. But it's just easier for them to
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: draft David Bailey, Isn't it? Like it's just easier for them.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: They know where David Bailey is gonna play. He's gonna
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: play on the edge. He's pretty good at it. He's
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: obviously one of the better pressure guys, and just in
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: terms of pressure rates and things like that, out of
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: this class, it's just a much more straightforward, fairway kind
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: of pick.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: It is weird, though, right that they canceled their visit
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: with Bailey.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: It is weird, but but now all I don't know all.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: The smoke out there is it's gonna be Bailey.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: So I just feel like, is it Mogi Morgie Darren
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: their general manager? They just hired their general manager Aaron
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Glenn just had a bad off first season, giving him
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: a what I think, because if you're gonna make RVL
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: recent edge and we're gonna d to him a little
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: bit in a second too, like he's a little bit
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: of a project at that position. If you aren't sold
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: that the coach is going to be there beyond next
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: year yet, are you really going to give him this
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: like raw ball? I'm saying they are gonna take David
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Bailey and try to hit this thing center cut down
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: the fairway.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I still think RVILL rees just because it's super rare.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I think eighty three percent of all top ten picks
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: at a top thirty visit with their team. I guess
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: that leaves two that don't two of every ten.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: But yep, you just don't know. They go down to
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Texas Tech like there's other ways.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: It is also the Jets, I mean they're wild card.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: I'll go with Bailey. Sure, but I go back and
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: forth on this. I'm not sure.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: So number three is the Cardinals. I know there's a
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: lot of buzz right now about Jeremiah Love to the
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Cadinals that that seems to be the hot He's.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: The best collar available as this second best player available
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: as Bord stands right now. But they don't need a safety.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Number three to the Cardinals. I still have them taking rees.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I still have them been taking Rvill Reves, not Jeremiah Love.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Francis Malugo. Oh okay, I've been on this.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: On the Monks, I'm sticking with this. They have a
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: good left tackle and Paris Johnson Junior. If you get
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: a good right tackle, whatever quarterback's going to step in,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: whoever's going to step in. Kind of like I just
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: said with Mendoza, you're in great shape at one of
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: the maybe the second hardest position to be at great
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: shape in. I think Maligo as a dude, I think
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: he can play. I think him falling is more prospect
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: fatigue than anything else. I know there's some questions about
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: something in his back, but I think a chance to
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: get a tackle like that when they Cardinals have something
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: on defense, like they've got a little bit of buzz there,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: they really don't have anything on offense. I think if
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: you add Maligo, whether you're adding ty Simpson later, whether
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: you're getting a quarterback in the future, him and Paris
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Johnson is a really good tackle duo, and I'm standing
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: by that. But what I will say is if he
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: doesn't go here, and you look at kind of the
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: projections going down, he could fall.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: That's why I don't. I don't have him in my
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: top ten.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: And that would be tremendous news for the Patriots because
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't go top ten, everybody, you're not getting
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: all seven tackles in the top thirty, You're not getting it.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: So I'm interested you don't have him top ten.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I think there's a pretty clear top ten in this draft,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: and whatever order they go into Mendoza, Bailey, Reese, Love Styles,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Bane Maui goa Down's delaye Tait in whatever order. I
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: think after that is when it opens up. So you
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: you either do you have Maligoa going below his talent
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: level or do you think there's somebody else in that
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: clear top ten.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: No, I think there's somebody else, No, I think I'm
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: with you on nine of the ten. I think that
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: the things with Maligo and I would say the same
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: thing about Spencer. Fine, yeah, Maligoa, I I'm a little
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: bit concerned about him playing tackle in the NFL. He
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: has the length, you know, it's it's above threshold, it's
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: like thirty three and plus right, But he's built like
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: more like a wider body. He's built more like a
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: guard than he is a tackle. I understand that. You know,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Will Campbell, this one for Will Campbell is a much
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: better athlete, I would say than Maligoa. There's also been
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: some injury stuff with Maligoa that's come up. I know
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: everybody says he's going to be fine, but picking that
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: player in the top ten, that is kind of a
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: tweeter player to begin with, and then he's also got
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: some maybe injury thing. You know, This is why I
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: also didn't have Fino in my top ten, because I
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: think might be a before this is all said and down,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: and you know, that's that's a high pick to be
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: using on an interior offensive lineman to begin with, let
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: alone the center. So I added Mendoza, Bailey Reese. I
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: hear the arguments from Maligo. I'm number four with the Titans.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Uh if? Now the Cardinals are the Jeremiah Love darling
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: of the insiders, The Titans have been a Jeremiah Love
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: projection for a lot of people. I don't have them
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: taking Love either. I have them taking Cardinal Tate. I
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: just feel like I've even seen that anywhere I know,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: And that's why I'm going with it because things this
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: draft feels unpredictable.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: That would piss off a lot of teams.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I think this draft feels really unpredictable because there's not
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: a ton of consensus on the top of the board.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: There's not My argument for Cardinal Taate is that if
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: you're the Tennessee Titans, isn't everything geared towards trying to
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: make cam Ward happen? Right? You need to make cam
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Ward a thing. You need to get cam Ward going,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: and you need to get him operational. I can hear
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: arguments for doing that with Jeremiah Love, but I think
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: they they fail because I think the oh, get the
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: young quarterback a run game? How helpful would that be?
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't buy that. You know that, Yeah,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Carnal Tate's the best receiver in the draft. In my opinion,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: he's easy, definitely the cleanest receiver right because I don't
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: know what's going on with Jordan Tyson's hamstrings and stuff
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: like that. So I'm going Carnal Tate here to the Titans.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: You get cam Ward, a legit number one wide receiver
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: to grow with a young player for him, if they're
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: gonna go skilled player, it just everything screams that it
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: makes more sense as an organization to go wide receiver
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: than running back.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: It's a good argument. I just went back in the
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: mock draft day to Bay seven pages, went back about
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: a month. There was three mocks that have Carnal Tate
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: to the Titans. There's actually more that have him to
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: the Jets at two than happen to the Titans at four.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: So if I'm right about this and this is worth
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: the victory, lab, I agree there thing you said, But
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: what I will add to it is this defensive coach
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: really going to go offense with his first pick.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: So I can the other guy that I did never
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: considered love here. By the way, the other guy I
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: considered here with Sonny Styles, I think that Sonny Styles
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: in a Robert Solid defense is basically Fred Warner right,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: he's not gonna be as good. I'm not saying like,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: don't do that whole thing, but that's the idea.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: That's the role. Well or Reseert Baine and you just
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: get better off the edge or Bailey or whoever falls right.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: It just feels like to me, I think this is
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: the best defensive player. I think this is either going
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: to be that was the old Bailey or Bane, depending
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: on what happens at the top there.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: I went carnal tape because I think that they need excitement,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: and I also think that they need to make cam wardwork.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: And the third thing that I would just mention, and
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I know that this doesn't get taught to. In my opinion,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: this doesn't get talked about enough. The the cost effectiveness
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: of the pick right, especially for a team like the Titans,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: which let's face it, ownership is a little.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Bit well stadium.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: It makes so much more financial sense just from an
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: asset management standpoint to draft a wide receiver there than
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: it does to draft an off ball linebacker running back.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Well, Well, that's why I throw the edge rushers in
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: because like.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love drafting him there is gonna be what a
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: top five painting running back against it.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: That's why I throw the edge rushers in there too, though.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I had Bailey already and already going, so
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: carnalson not Bane.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: You don't think Bangals that high.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I do't get the bank, so I go Mendoza. Bailey
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: wreathed Tait number five.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: John Harbaugh feels like a Jeremiah Love guy.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: John Harbaugh feels like a Caleb Downs guy.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: I considered Caleb Downs as well, but I just feel
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: like he is gonna want to establish a tone to
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: that program. He ran the ball a ton in Baltimore.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Obviously he had Lamar Jackson, but he still ran the
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: ball a ton in Baltimore. I am not sold on
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Jackson Dart, so in this case, I actually want to
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: take the ball out of Jackson Dart's hands if I can.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: If I'm the Giants, Jackson Dark can move around a
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: little bit too. So you kind of have a two
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: man game back there a little bit with Jeremiah Love,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: but it just feels like Derrick Henry and with Baltimore
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: was kind of his guy. Jeremiah Love comes in and
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: they kind of said we're going to be a physical
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: run first football team with one of the best running
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: backs in the draft.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Caleb Downs. Harballs saw what that safety
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: can do for defense. He had Kyle Hamilton in Baltimore.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Gets his Kyle Hamilton for a team that really needs
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: defense more than needs offense. I'm gonna go Kyle Hamilton here,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Caleb Downs. Kyle Hamilton is.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: The edguair enough all right? Number six with the Cleveland Browns.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: I have them taking Ruben Bay, okay, but Miles Garrett
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: on one side, Ruben Band on the other. Who knows
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: how long Miles Garrett's going to be a Cleveland Brown
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: I think that thing is starting to really run its course.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I know he just signed an extension there, but I
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: think in general that whether it's retirement eventually, or it's
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: moving on to a different team or whatever, I don't
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: know how much longer Miles Garrett's going to be in Cleveland.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Rubin Bain. The last couple of years with the Browns,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: they've done some unorthodox drafting. I think it was putting
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: it politely. You know, Mason Graham, it really worked with Squaestionnger.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: You know, that was a home run pick for them.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: They've picked some players that have had some sort of
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: questions and not exactly like the consensus guy. Ruben Bain's
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: got the arm length thing, but I think the tape
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: is fantastic. I think the bend, the power obviously, the
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: strength in his hands off the edge is fantastic. I
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: have the Browns taking Ruben.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Bain, so I would have the Browns taking Carnel Tate.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I said them on the board. I think if you're
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: gonna try to make it work with this quarterback group,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Sho or whoever, that's who it is. But last luck
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: with that, Good luck with that. I'm not saying that's
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: what's gonna work, but like, if this is what you're
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: going with, go with it, right Carnel Tate, you keep
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: them in, you keep them home in the state of Ohio.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: But last week, mel Kiper, Todd McShay, and Dadan Brugler
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: all had the Cowboys trading up specifically to pick six
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: in their mock drafts, and they all had nearly identical trades.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: As the Great League. Corso likes to say, it seems
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: like somebody knows something I don't and I'm going with someone.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: So I am going to have the Dallas Cowboys come
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: up to six. The general trade that was thrown out there,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: and again there's like slight variations of it because the
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Cowboys have two first and the Browns have two first
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: and extra second. It's six and thirty nine for twelve
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: and twenty. So now the Browns have three first round picks,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: which is, I don't know how you feel about giving
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: the Browns three first round picks. Bow correct Cowboys, knee defense, defense,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: defense defense. Well, so I was actually between Baine and Styles.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I think those two are a step above. Styles is
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: the only one of these guys they've met with. So
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Sunny Styles here at six to the Cowboys. Okay,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: that's fair, But if it was the brown stick and pick,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I would go Carnel Tape.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: So Mendoza to the Raiders, Bailey to the Jets, Reached
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: to the Cardinals, Tate to the Titans, Love to the Giants,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Bane to the Browns.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: And I have Mendoza, Bailey, Mawigoa, Reese down Styles, I
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: have three Ohio State picks in a row. Will I
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: go for four here because I still have Carneal Tate
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: on the board.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: So number seven to the Washington the Commanders.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I'm also but I'm doing this as we go. I'm
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: changing from if you want to see my actual mock
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: draft ninety five the sports dot Com nice plug.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: I think Adam Peters and Dan Quinn would sprint the
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Sunny Styles card up to the Williams at this point. Yeah,
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: if they he is there at seven, talk about a
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Fred Warner a dream sort of scenario for them. I
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: think that Sunny Styles is still on the board at
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: this point. Another defense that obviously major's in the a
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: lot of zone kind of. It's more of a Seattle
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: three based system, but similar to what Robert Solid you
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: know runs and what uh those you know? Fred Warner
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: teams run Sonny Styles, and the Commanders defense is a
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: perfect fit. I really like that one. I did consider
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Sonny Styles with the Giants as well. I think that
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: they really need to improve their run defense historically bad
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: run defense last year. But I think Washington lucks out
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: here and gets Sonny Styles at seven.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: So I'm not going to go for Ohio State players
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: in a row this. I still have Jeremiah Love on
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: the board. You I'm gonna have Jeremiah Good.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I'm happy, good, good for you, good for not taking
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: the running back too high.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: I think in my action one I took him forth,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: but I am going ninth at one point. Yeah, I'm
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: gonna have him going seventh here to the commanders take
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: some of the workload up. This is one we're adding
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: a running back. I know you kind of said it
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: before about you know, it doesn't really help cam Ward
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: out a lot if you give him a good running back.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: This one it helps because Jane Daniels is such an
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: intricate part of their run game. It's gonna help him
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: verisically Lamar Derrick Henry exactly different backs obviously, right, But
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: so you're gonna put him back there. He's going to
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: be a little more of a volume back for you.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: It's going to take some of the physical toll off
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: of Jane. Dan's going to be able to do some
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: really cool read option stuff. You can catch the ball
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: out of backfield too. Also, I don't know if you've
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: seen their running back depth chart, it's not particularly great.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Eckler's still there, right, but coming back from an injury,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: I don't even think he is.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know they signed for Shod White for like
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: a million dollars in a free agency It is Rashad White,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Jerome Ford, Bill Crosskey Merritt, and Jeremy McNichols is there.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: They like Bill, but they do, but you need more
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: than one. This is another one. Like you said with
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Sonny Styles, I think the commander sprint the card up here.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: If Jeremia Love still on the board.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agreed. Number eight Saints Caleb Downs. I'm not
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: overthinking Caleb Downs. I don't think the league will either. Really.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I think if you have him going all the way
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: to eight, you've overthought him.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: No, I don't safety safety. He's eighty.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: He's probably hell of a safety safety.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I just think everything safety and the Saints will appreciate.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're exactly the same, but like you know,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: the honey Badger, like they appreciate a play making safety
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: in New Orleans. Yeah, you know, like I think they
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: kind of get that whole thing and they'll get how
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: to use them. So I'm gonna go Caleb Downs here
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: at A to the Saints. So Mendozah, Bailey, Reese, Tate, Love,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Baying Styles, Downs, Uh, who do you have going to
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: New Orleans?
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I have Carneal Tate. I'm gonna go back to Ohio
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: State here, nothing wrong with an Ohio State heavy wide
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: receiver room. They're gonna try to make it work with
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: with Tyler Shuck. So I think o'lave and take compliment
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: each other really well. I think that's a really good
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: one too. Dynamic. He's gonna give you kind of a more,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: you know, bigger body option on the outside. Both guys
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: can stretch the field. I think they want to be
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: a vertical offense down there in New Orleans. So you know,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: you put Carnel Tait into that offense with chrysal Lave
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: with some of the other guys they have, you're you're
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: maybe starting to build something there. You may be starting
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: to build something.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Number nine the kNs City Chiefs. I consider two players
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: now because I have Mendozah Bailey, Reese, Tate, love Baying
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: styles downs off the I considered montsour Delayne because they
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: just traded. I don't know, but he's a style check.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: That dude's awesome. I think he's gonna be help.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I feel like nobody's talking about him, which is always
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: a good good for you. If there's a corner in
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: the draft that's like not hyped up at all. But
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: consistently a top ten pick. It means nobody has the
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: tape on him because nobody ever trusts him. He's just
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: gonna go out there and be locked out, smooth.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: As hell, just a really good player in my opinion.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: They just traded Trent McDuffie. Yeah, it just makes sense.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: This is the Vikings replacing Yep, the other guy.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: That I considered here with Tyson obviously.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: That, you know, don't want they need to address that
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: at some point. But I I had them taking Delaney
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Delayne here at nine. So Chiefs get Monsieur Delaney, one
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: of my delay Delayne, one of my favorite prospects in
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: the entire draft.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: I am going to go ruben Bain. That just makes
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of sense for a lot of reasons.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Yep, number ten with the Giants rounding it out again.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Top ten Jordan Tyson.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: So you think Tyson is one of the ten elite
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: players in this draft? Yes? So who don't you have
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: from what is kind of like the consensus? I don't
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: top ten.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have my Maligo going here, have him sliding,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: you know, a little bit out of I.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Think the consensus. Top ten to me is Mendoza, Reese, Bailey,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Love Styles, Maligoa Downs, Tate Bayne, Delayne. I think after
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: that it gets a little Harry. I'd love to say
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Delayane here again, there is I think there's a clear
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: ten best players and then everybody else. Giants did a
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: lot of work on Jordan Tyson and then suddenly traded
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: for that pick. I'm going Jordan Tyson.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Yep, that's exactly why I went. Jordan Tyson. Loading up,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: so I have him getting Jeremiah Love and Jordan Tyson
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: and then also getting you know, obviously they have molike neighbors,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: so now they have a lot of weapons to work
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: with around Jackson Dart On offense, I did consider offensive
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: line here as well, to try to just beef up
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: that team in general and just be, you know, on
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: a team that ground and pound kind of team. You
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: know that Harbaugh wants to build sneaky, sneaky vega Oyana team.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna throw that out there, like, I just
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: think that, you know, just again the Harbaugh thing, like
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: if he wants to bite kneecaps and win the line
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: of scrimmage and all that stuff and set a tone
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: and be a physical football team, I think that's possibly
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: in play, but I ended up there's too much smoke
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: around Tyson. I just don't know if they're gonna go
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Tyson even as high as five. Like, how comfortable do
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: they feel that Tyson is gonna make it ten would
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: be a question for I have, especially with Kansas City
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: sitting there.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: When you had Carnel Tate going what three four, so
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: that that really shakes it up.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: So Mendoza, Bailey, Reese, Tate, Love, Baye Styles Downs, Delane Tyson.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Mendoza, Bailey, Mawigoa, Reese down Sunny Styles to the Cowboys,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Love, Carnel Tate, Ruben Bane At Jordan Tyson. So
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: then probably McKay Lemon to the Dolphins.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Last thing I wanted to just add on this, and
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: then we're gonna take a break and then we're gonna
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: open the show up to all you guys. My top
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: ten's a little bit I would say, outside the box.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: And I got a little creative with this that was
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: on purpose. I think this is a bizarro Land draft.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: I am, it's gonna get weird. I don't think I've
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: ever really covered a draft where there's so little consensus
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: about who the top guys are I agree that we're
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: kind of narrowed it down to the same nine or ten.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: You know, we both kind of have nine out of
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: those ten. You have, maw we go in there. I
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: don't think I've covered a draft that has less consensus
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: than this one. I mean, boards are gonna be wildly different.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: I keep hearing throw out positional value in a draft
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: like this. I actually wonder if positional value and need
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: matters a little bit more in a draft like this
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: because there's not a lot delineating the picks, right, Like,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: if you had a guy that you felt like with
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: such a better prospect than somebody at you know, a
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: non premium position, let's call it, then maybe that would
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: be different. But I think all these guys, I think
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: it's kind of a flat line in a lot of
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: places of this draft, both in the top ten and
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: to some extent. And then also you know where the
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Patriots are on where the Patriots are picking all the
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: way through. I would say probably the end of day
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: two is kind of like a twenty to ninety range
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: of this draft too, which is all a flat line. Right,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: So if everybody's equal, if we just consider the board
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: and we just are stacking players and everybody's equal on
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: the board. Colex, wouldn't make the most sense that your
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: positions of need would be what pushes up guys. Yeah, right,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: like that that's isn't that? The tiebreaker here is how
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: you feel about a specific player or a need you
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: need to fill. Something along those lines. I think those weird,
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: quirky tiebreakers of need, positional value, how guys you know,
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: presented in pre draft visits and all that kind of stuff,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: that's gonna end up being deal breakers here for teams
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: or decision makers, and that's ultimately gonna lead to some kookiness.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: So I win a little bit different because I think
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: there's we go to chalk with these things.
• 54:10
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  Speaker 1: Quick Furniture Draft Go three picks favorite furniture couch, couch,
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  Speaker 1: that's very vague, Okay, I'm gonna go recliner, nice sectional?
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Well no, no, it's a snake draft, a snake draft, so
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  Speaker 1: you're going couch.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I g a sectional, nice comfy sectional.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: I'm going recliner is a hammock technically furniture no, okay.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know Bob's. I was I was gonna say
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  Speaker 2: outdoor couch I love in the summertime and a nice outdoor.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: I love an outdoor couch my second pick. Yeah, so
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take outdoor couch or just outdoor lounge chair.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just something to sit in.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: All right, your last two picks one, No I took out,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: you took couch. I took recliner, an outdoor lounge chair.
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  Speaker 1: Now you go draft?
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: Oh god, Uh well, you spend like a third of
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: your life on your bed, so it's.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: A practical pick. That's like, that's like drafting the left tackle.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: It's not exciting drafting in fantasy, but you gotta.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then all right, I gotta go again. Uh
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: like a nice lazy boy, nice like like I said, No,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: I took recliner.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: I took my first thing. Uh.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know what else is there?
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Come on, I already know what my next pick is.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go some like it's.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Not just the stuff you sit on. I guess that's
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: mostly what we're doing. But there's other furniture, the good
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: TV stand.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Car I'm gonna go with, uh, a nice like a
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: nice set of barstools, barstools. Yeah, you know, I like,
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: you know, you got an island, you get the barstools,
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: but they need to be comfortable though, So that's like,
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: that's why this is a high pick, because you need
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: to get like really good barstools like you now you
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: don't want to sit on one's there.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go L shaped desk. I got an L
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: shaped desk a couple of years ago instead of the
• 59:09
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• 59:11
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• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well, I guess we can open it
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: up to the furniture draft now as well, if people
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: want to chime in. Mark is in Connecticut. What's up?
• 59:24
  Speaker 15: Mark?
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: Hey, guys, thank you for taking my call.
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: I appreciate it.
• 59:29
  Speaker 16: We we pumped for the draft or what?
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course always.
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: So my whole nervousness here is that I'm gonna wait
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: up till eleven thirty twelve o'clock and they're not gonna
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: make the pick.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Well, hang on, you're not gonna have to. They shortened
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: the timer this year in the first round from ten
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: minutes to eight, so it's gonna be closer to ten
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: thirty ten thirty eleven beautiful.
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so so, but I like the idea if they
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  Speaker 5: do that, because now they're gonna have two seconds, you're
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: probably going to pick up I'm thinking a third or
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: two fours is what I've seen in a lot of
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: uh mock drafts, which is great because this is the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: cream of the crop, you know, two two threes and
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: then two fours. I mean that that is just going
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: to be exciting to be able to have all those
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: picks to make. So I wanted to see what you guys,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: you know, I know you guys have been talking about
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: that a lot, but uh, you know, I think that's
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: what it's probably gonna end up being.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark, thanks for the call. I think that if
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: I had to power rank my outcomes, yeah, tight end
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: and or a tighten edge and tackle in some order.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: At the top, I think trade down is very high
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: up there. Yeah, especially I don't want them to trade
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: down like fifty, No five to ten picks.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: And even tens a bit much for me. But like, yeah,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: I look at thirty six with the Raiders is like
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: the floor of it. Even if you're going to thirty three,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: I still don't know, or thirty four with the Cardinals,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: I still don't know how I feel about handing the
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: jets of quarterback even if you don't love Ty Simpson. Yeah,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: but yeah, do you move back a couple of picks
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: like in the one I had the one I put out,
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  Speaker 1: so I had them going from thirty one to thirty
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  Speaker 1: four with Cardinals and getting back one oh four and
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  Speaker 1: then a future fourth.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. See, to me, that's the only difference between what
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Mark was saying and what I would do. I would
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: try to push really hard to get a pick in
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven.
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  Speaker 1: I just I don't think you're getting a top one
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  Speaker 1: hundred unless you're moving back, like significantly because of the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: discrepancy between this draft and next.
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  Speaker 2: So the reason why I say that, though, is because
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: I want to replenish the well, because I'm trading something
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: for AJ Brown, Right, so I'm probably going to give
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: up Let's let's say it right, like if you get
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: a fourth, right, but let's say we win our game
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: with Chicken. Yeah, and you're giving up a second round
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: pick for AJ Brown in twenty twenty seven. If you
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: trade down in this draft from thirty one to thirty six,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: let's call it a thirty one to thirty four, and
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: you even get a fourth round pick in twenty twenty four.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: At least you're adding your pick back right. It is
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: at the same level of pick, but at least you
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: got to pick back right. So I feel a bit better.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: I would rather do that than add more picks in
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: this draft. Yeah, I think they got enough picks in
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: a bad draft. Let's try to get some more picks,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: or at least keep our picks equal in the good
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: one that's coming next year. That's how I feel about that.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: All right, Zach is in New Hampshire. What's up, Zach?
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 6: Big guys, Thanks kicking ball. I was just wondering, if
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: they do end up getting a J. Brown, how would
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: that affect, you know, Kyle Williams and Pop Douglas and
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: guys like that. Obviously Pop will probably stay in the slot,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: but like you think they'd use Williams at the Z
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 6: in the slot.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think it's an interesting question.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: You know, a J.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Brown's gonna play the X like, I think that there
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: might be a little bit more maneuverability with him than
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: what he did in Philadelphia. Philadelphia, one of the issues
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people had with the way
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: that their offense ran. If you're trying to make the
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: argument for aj Brown. This should be on your checklist
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: of things to argue in his favor. They barely moved
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: him around, They barely moved him inside. They didn't do
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: a whole lot of like big slot hunting with him
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: where he has matchups on slot corners or linebackers or
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: safeties in the middle of the field. My guess is
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: that Josh McDaniels will do a lot more with that
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: with daj Brown. So that could mean that Romeo Dobbs
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: plays a little bit more X like he did in
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Green Bay. Right, so all good, All fine. I think
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: you know, Pop Douglas, Bob Douglas had a tough time
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: getting on the field last year. So if you add
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: two receivers and maybe they maybe they send out Keishawn
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Booty too at some point. But yeah, for right now,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: let's just say they're adding too and only subtracting one
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: in Stefon Diggs. I think Pop Douglas has sort of
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: that specialized, you know, speed slot gadget type of role.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's changing. Kyle Williams, I think I
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: don't know if he has a role, you know, I
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: think that that role is still yet to be determined.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: I think it's you pick your spots in games, you
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: put him on the field ten to fifteen snaps, and
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: you hope he gets open.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Deep Yeah, like he did against Baltimore. Yeah, exactly. So
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not I don't have a great answer of what
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: the future holds for Kyle Williams right now. I hope
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: that Kyle Williams, with more opportunity, takes advantage of it
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: and you know, breaks out. But I've said it before,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: the history of receivers having rookie seasons like Kyle Williams
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: did and going on to be big time players is
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: not very good. Let's just call it at what it is.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: It's just usually that there's at least some production in
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: your rookie season. I still have hope that he's like,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: you know, could he be like Philip Dorsett, you know,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: can he be a down the field vertical threat that
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: has like one really good trick baby, But I'm not
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: really holding I hope that it's going to be more
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: than that. Christians in LA, what's up Christian.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 16: You guys?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 17: It seems like the way the draft is to post
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 17: the work is the two teams that did the best,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 17: that he runs up. I mean the two two, both
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 17: teams they get the last two takes them those teams
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 17: that you know were the works the first two that's
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 17: designed to create parody in the leaved right. Yeah, so
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 17: it seems like they're saying that the thirty first pick,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 17: you know, in each round subsequently should be enough to
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 17: get us back to the super Bowl or in the
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 17: same place that we were last year. Right, that's the
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 17: way the draft is theoretically proposed.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: I don't really understand the question, yeah, Matne, And like
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: the team.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 17: Is supposed to like move up right from where they
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 17: were last year with the pick that they get from
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 17: this year. So they're technically saying that with the thirty
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 17: first pick in the first round and then subsequently every
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 17: other round, we should be able to use those picks
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 17: to get back to and then win the Super Bowls.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 17: That's the theory of it here.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: You're saying, because they're picking thirty first this year to
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: put them in a position to pick thirty second next year.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 17: No thinking, if they picked thirty first this year, that's
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 17: supposed to be the piece that gets them, you know,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 17: over the hump from where they were last year, and
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 17: last year they ended up at running up for the
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 17: Super Bowl. Wouldn't this year their their first pick theoretically
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 17: supposed to be the piece that gets them over the
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 17: hump from where they were last year.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: For each team, I mean, I don't think it.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: Because they were so close to winning the super Bowl
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: last year, they have pick away from winning the super
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Bowl this year.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 17: I'm not fin the league the schedules. Does the pick
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 17: for the draft like the team is puposed to move
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 17: up one level from where they were last year.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: No, it's supposed to bring everybody back to the middle.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: The worst teams get the best players. The best teams
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: pick lower, so it drags everybody back to the middle.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: That's what it's designed to do. But that's just the
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's free agency and other things and like,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that's what's going to happen. But no,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: the draft is design and create parody. The worst teams
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: get the really good players they need. The best teams
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: have a less limited selection. But you can pick thirty
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: one and still get better. Absolutely, teams do it all
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: the time. The Patriots did it for years. The Chiefs
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: have been doing it the last few years, picking you
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: know from twenty nine on. But no, it's it's the
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: draft design to bring everybody to the middle.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 17: Yeah, okay, so theoretically the teams are in the middle
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 17: should then flip flopped and beat towards the top the
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 17: next like the next year.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: I think it's the most Yeah, I would say the
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: worst place you are is the middle.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: In theory, what the NFL wants is for the bad
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: teams to become good and the good teams to become bad,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: and then that's just theory behind it, or.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: At least them to come back to the pack so
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: that everybody is equal. The NFL wants everybody to be
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: the fifteenth best team, right, And I think that Thanks
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: for the call, Christian, because that made no sense. I
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: thank you for piercing that through Through that that I'm
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: with you, though. The draft is designed to make the
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: good the bad teams good in the bat and the.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: Good teams higher system. The draft, the way the salary
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: cap works, the way for agency works, cap picks like,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: it's all designed for parents. And we've talked about this.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: There's an undercurrent that's supposed to not allow a team
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: to stay in a state for any more than like
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: if you fight off the current for five or six years,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: you're doing great. Yeah, doing it for twenty years is absurd,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: and nobody will ever do that again. Yeah, although I
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: guess some teams have fought off the undercurrent that's supposed
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: to pull them up and have stayed bad for twenty years.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: But it's it's yeah, that's just how it works.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I that's definitely how it works. I think
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: that the the biggest difference that I feel like with
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: the NFL Draft compared to other drafts. Besides maybe if
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: you have like a lottery pick in the NBA, is
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: there's enough talent in the NFL draft from one to
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: thirty two that that player can make an immediate impact
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: on your team as a Really, so whoever they draft
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: that when you draft at you know their thirty NBA teams,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: So when you draft that twenty nine in the NBA draft,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: you're not realistically thinking that that player is going to
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: contribute to your roster immediately. No, like a lot of
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: those guys actually go to the G league first and
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: like kick back and forth between the NBA, and.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: This is just setting up you taking a victory lap
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: on you go Gonzalezes.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: No, but like Eugo Gonzala right now is not in
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: the Celtics playoff rotation.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: He was their first round pick. You know, it's a
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: not apples to apples, so I'm not going to use
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Will Campbell. But like the Patriots, you know, picking in
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: the twenties, that guy would be playing.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: And the King Gonzalez went seventeenth and instantly became one
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: of the best corners in football. The seventeenth pick in
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: the NBA draft hardly ever does that doesn't.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it happens every once in a blue moon. I
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Kwi Leonard was like a middle of the first round guy,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: but it doesn't happen often.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: And even Kwi like it took a few years, right,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: he wasn't He didn't burst on a scene. Seventeenth overall
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: pick last year was Juan Behinger.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he played a second in the
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: NBA this year.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: All right, Patty is an aguan.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 7: What's up, Patty, Good afternoon. Guys. Wanted to touch on
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 7: a couple of things. Evan, great call on the barstools.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 7: That's a very very underrated piece of furniture. And I
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 7: actually need to get a couple nice barstools from my
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 7: web bar down in my basement, so I wanted to
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 7: throw two things. The first thing, I know said, you
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 7: weren't really going to do the have the callers predict
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 7: the pick kind of like we did last year, But
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 7: I'm going to And I think last year I went
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 7: with my head instead of my heart, and you know
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 7: my heart, said Trayveon Anderson in the second round, and
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 7: I think I ended up taking Jalen a while, so
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 7: try not to drag the showdown too much going with
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 7: my heart instead of my head. This year, I think
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 7: Anachorz there at thirty one, and I think they take them,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 7: and I'll only do day one and to day day two.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 7: I think they're trading up. And as much as I
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 7: love gave Akis and I would love to see him
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 7: on this team, I think our Mason Thomas is going
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 7: to be the pick somewhere between fifty and fifty five,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 7: I think they're going to trade up somewhere in there.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 7: I just think he's as far as like like hand
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 7: and glove fit for this bravel defense.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: I think he's a.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 7: Little bit better, a little bit quicker than than Acus.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 7: But I don't like, I don't get where this whole frickin'
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 7: argument of achis not being a great athlete. Just look
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 7: at the numbers he put up in his pro day,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 7: and I'll end with Oscar delp I think they I
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 7: think they like him, and I think he'll probably be
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 7: there at the end of the third round for them
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 7: to take. Now, Evan, I got to ask you a question,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 7: are you done doing like looking at prospects for the draft?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 7: Because if not, I just wanted to throw one Atchet
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 7: real quick.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty Yeah, the hay is in the bar there, Patty,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: but you can throw you can throw them at me.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: It's okay, all right.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 7: So this guy projects to be either a seventh or UDFA.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 7: I would like to grab him as in the seventh round.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 7: His name is Kaden Barnett. He's a guard out of Wyoming.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm familiar with him.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 7: He played played primarily right tackle, and then they switched
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 7: him in the guard this past year. He struggled in
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 7: twenty twenty four, but this past year when they moved
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 7: him in the guard, he actually played like really good.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 7: And plus he's like he's really big, mean and nasty,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 7: and I think he'd be a great fit and I'll
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 7: just end on this, Alex. You'll you'll be happy to know.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 7: Like when I did a you know, a bunch of
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 7: mock drafts, I kind of got sick of them. But
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 7: after a while, like I was picking who are a
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 7: Bernard yep, like in the sticks round, because I would
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 7: love to see that, Like, I'd love to see him
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 7: on this team, because who the hell knows what that
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 7: guy will turn into. I can't wait for tomorrow. I'm
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 7: gonna be tanked and I'll be calling in tomorrow night.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 7: Let's go, baby, all right, let's go.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: So Barnette, the guard from Wyoming, I got on my
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: radar because Dane had him as a top twenty player
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: in the class at the position. Yeah, he had him
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: as like as I think I have it right here.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: I think it's a guard like sixteen, and you know,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: seeing the fact that they are going to probably draft
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: one of these guys, I went pretty deep at guard.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: I liked what I saw. You know, I have a
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: tough time though. I'm going to just admit it's a
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: blind spot for me when guys played tackle in college
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: and then you have to project how that's going to
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: translate to guard. I have a tough time with that
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: because it's such a different position, Like the space that
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: you're blocking in is so different. You know, guard, it's
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: a it's a car crash, right, It's gonna happen instantly.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: You know, it's a it's a big you know, there's
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: not as much space in between the players, right, so
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: just naturally the collision is gonna happen a lot quicker
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: when you're out of tackle, like you're dancing out there, right, like,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: you know, there's a space in between the guys.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: It's it's hard for me to do that.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: But I liked what I saw from him in terms
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: of the physical attributes, and he is probably gonna play
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: guard at the next level, probably like a you know,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: fifth or sixth round pick. You know, I think he's
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: Patty was a little low on him. I think he's
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: gonna be go a little maybe around higher than what
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: he said. But I think he's going to be someone
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: at the end of day three that's going to be,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: you know, a possibility if they don't go guard super
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: early and they just hammer it on day three, they
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: draft a couple. You know, he was probably on my
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: list in like a they take one in the fourth
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: one in the sixth kind of situation.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: Possibly, Yeah, you're not taking any more prospects. I try
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: to get you on one yesterday, but.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Uh, well you tried to fool me.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: And I know because it's it's it's obscene, it's absurd,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: it's insane. You don't know who this person is. Who
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: do you even remember the name?
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: Noah Khan?
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: Who is that? Why do I need to know who
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: that is? Is this a like? What is it? Like?
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: Like? He's a singer, Okay, it's from Vermont, his whole
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: he's like the whole New England music scene right now.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: And he's putting out a new album soon and he
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: just dropped the Tiny Desk and good music.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: He dropped a tiny desk.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: Do you not know what tiny desk is?
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 10: Oh my, it's an NPR music showcase called it.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: Is it l shaped or is it?
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Hang on? Have you never You've never seen like the
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: t pain tiny desk? No, it's the best one. I
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: think is the best.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: I don't have time for him.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: They they bring these artists to NPR and they have
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: it's like an acoustic They basically do like an acoustic
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: set of like three or four songs and t Pain
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: went and he sung. He didn't use autotune, actually sung
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: and it was incredible, and everybody's like wow. I'm like, Okay, No.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: I think I've heard put Tiny Desk on the map.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: I think I've heard it was that the first big one,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: Like I don't remember.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 10: The first big one, but it made everybody a.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: Lot of famous artists.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: Is it? Is it?
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: What it's like a library setup? Okay, it's like a library.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: We've we've submitted to one. So what you gotta do
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: is you gotta.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 10: Do a live So is this like your song with
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 10: a desk in the frame somewhere?
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they set you up in like this library.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 10: Situation where it's you know, it's like book shelves, desks whatever.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: Is it like Hot Ones but for music?
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: Not even close. No, it's like a very chill, relaxed vibe. No,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: I can't believe you don't. Okay, So you got to
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: watch who was.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: On hot Who was on Hot Ones recently? I forget
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: who it was, but.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: I I was.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: I only watch it when it's interesting.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: Like here's uh, Taylor Swift doing Tiny Desk?
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: Why why is it called tiny desk? Because they're behind
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: a ty okay, gotcha.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: All right, So you gotta listen to what con you
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: gotta check out tiny, I'm gonna look who is the
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: drafts almost over. I'm gonna send you some links for Sunday.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: I can't believe you don't know who Nocan is?
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: Do you know? You know?
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: Like my I know you only you don't really listen
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: to music, but.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: My bubble, like my world is very very specific. Yeah, Okay,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: there's football, there's more football, and then there's like so
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: if that's like, if that's like, let's call that eighty
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: percent of my existence is football, then like there's probably
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: about ten percent for the Boston Celtics. Obviously, there's you know,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: five percent for my lovely wife.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 10: You're running out of percentages fast.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: And then like five percent for the Bruins and the
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: Red Sox and other nonsense. So like this no con
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: thing is like, there's no there's no chance, and I'm
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: gonna storage I'm gonna switch to ten percent. I'll give
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: that to Jess because she'll get mad at me. So
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: eighty percent football, ten percent wife, somebody.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: When the drafts done, I'm gonna say, because it's it's
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: perfect you why comes out Friday. So once the draft's done.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm not gonna lisen.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: You should listen to it. I bet Chest listens to No.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not. We're not a music household, and it's
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: so weird. Yeah, we don't listen to music very much.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to the thuds Elders in
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: North Carolina? What's up Eldrid?
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 15: Hey fellas Chief Paint really is a singer instead of
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 15: a rapper, but he reals a rap because that guy
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 15: really can't sing.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: He can, It's unbelievable he really can.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 15: Yes, yes he can't. He could sing. But my other
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 15: question is I know I about like Casey kept kept
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 15: on ksey C.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, can you kill me?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 15: Why when you already got those guys in the building?
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 15: You know, even if we were to get a J. Brown,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 15: which I'm not holding my breath with Roseman, you know,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 15: I just can you kill me? Why?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 16: Why?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: Why you would add KCC? What's the question?
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 15: Got those guys in the room? Yeah? Another question is, uh,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 15: you already got Dobbs, you already got Pop, you already
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 15: got uh, you got Williams, you got you got uh guy? Yeah,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 15: MC howand I want mac Howald left team. I want.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 15: I want somebody young and coming up, you know, behind,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 15: because you have a thirty three year old wide receiver.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 15: If you get Brown, you're gonna be thirty. So you're
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 15: back in the boat again two years with me, So
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 15: why not on thirty one or move up in the
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 15: suckond And I'm tired of Boston because Boston just like uh,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 15: Hollins and boothte get my boy Brasel and then you
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 15: got him for the next four years. You ain't got
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 15: to pay this guy's contract till four years down the road.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: So by that time Brown was out the.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 15: Way, you'd have made maids and you'd have made guns
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 15: will hopefully by then, you know. So that's my reasoning.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 15: Can you kill me if I'm wrong?
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Aldre for the call. Here here's my take on that.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: It's the boat or the mystery box right now, the
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: mystery box. The boat is a nice boat. The mystery
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: box could be a yacht or it could be a
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: row boat, and the.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: Mystery box could be concert comedy ticket.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: You're right. So there's the issue with that line of
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: thinking is that you're you're counting on hitting the pick
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: right and you're making it so that it's a zero
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: sum game, like there's no other outcome that could possibly happen.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 10: A J.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: Brown is a known commodity. You know what he's getting.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, I agree with Eldred. In an ideal world, you
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: would draft the receiver. You would have a young stud
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: receiver with your young stud quarterback, both on a rookie contract.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: That is the dream scenario in the National Football League.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: What the Bengals had a couple of years ago with
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase both on rookie contracts is
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: the jackpot if for an NFL this You know, general manager,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: how much confidence do you have in the Patriots hitting
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: on the pick at wide receiver? And especially how much
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: confidence do you have to the Patriots pitting on the
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: pick a wide receiver when the highest that they could
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: pick that wide receiver thirty one, Like if they were
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: picking in the top ten, then maybe you feel a
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: little bit better about it because it's like, Okay, maybe
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: you could get a can't miss guy, you know, in
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: that range of the draft. I love Chris Brasel, He's
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: my guy, But there is a other outcome here for
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: Chris Basil with AJ Brown, there's really no other outcome,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: like you kind of know what you're gonna get with
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: aj Brown, So I think that's where it comes from.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: But I'm with Eldred. In the ideal world, you would
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: draft a receiver, you'd have him on the rookie contract
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: for four years, and he would be a stud like
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: that would be ideal. But that's not the world that
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: we live in. And I gotta admit, even though it's
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: maybe a little bit unfair to hold it against Mike Rabel, especially,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: I just until they hit on a wide receiver in
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: the draft box, I just can't get all jazzed up
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: I also, just to his first point, I think conception
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: you own, you know, Pops in a contract here. Yeah,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: I think Kyle Williams slightly different player. I think concepcion
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: gives you something you don't have, especially if they're not
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: going to resign Pop Douglas.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. I would probably agree with that. Concepcion
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: is to me, you know, I compared him to uh,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: you know, a taller z Flowers, Like he's a similar
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: type of joystick type of player, great separator, good with
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: the ball in his hands, explosive playmaker, has you know,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: some not the biggest guy. Has some play strength and
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: drop concerns as well, but for my money, the best
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: pure separator of any receiver in the draft. Yeah, if
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: he had Tyson or Tate's size and hands, he would
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: be a top time PA talk about in that category.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: But he you know, he's not small. He's not Zay Flowers,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: he's not Pop Douglas.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: He's not big.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: He's five to eleven, you know, you know, to what
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: one ninety I would say probably, uh, you know that
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: that's still pretty decent size for that kind of player.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: But he's not a big receiver by any means. Brad
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: is in Ohio? What's up? Brad? Oh? Wait? Sorry Brad? Okay,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: go ahead, Brad right hate what's up?
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 16: Hey, I was gone, Guys, I got confused there for
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 16: a secondhen Uh. I just got a couple of questions
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 16: real quick. And it's it's something that I spoke to
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 16: you guys earlier about and and you have picked up
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 16: on it. One of them is if we could move
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 16: back in the draft and get a you know, get
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 16: a good edge rusher and get and I I really
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 16: would like to see us draft Kleb Rutlets.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 17: I don't I just think he.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 16: I know he's a backup. You know, we would think,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 16: but with Tucker's injury, I think we could put him
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 16: at left guard and it's a massive upgrade from what
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 16: Wilson would have been last year. And run blocking anyway,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 16: and I agree that we need to find something we
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 16: can lay lean on, which is running. If we can
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 16: run the ball against whoever we need to, it takes
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 16: a lot of pressure off Drake. And then that would
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 16: leave me to Max Retson, an undrafted free agent special
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 16: team fullback that I hope Evan's looked into. And then uh,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 16: and then I was wanting to see about Marlon Klein
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 16: in the third round. I don't know what where you
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 16: guys are projecting him to be more in the third round.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 16: And bar Ham I think, and Jimmy Roder, these are
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 16: all late round picks that I think would fit really.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: Well with quick question, are you a Michigan fan by
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: any chance?
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 15: Yeah?
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 16: Well yeah, And I only give you guys Michigan players
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 16: that I think will actually fit with that.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: Know, you got some good players there. I just say
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: I just noticed that.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 16: Yeah, I can focus on those ones, you know, let
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 16: you guys know specifically they're trade and That's why I
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 16: want Evan to focus on Max. Did you guys look
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 16: at the fullback?
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: Well, I know who he.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: Is, Brad, But they just signed Reggie Gilliam to a
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: pretty good contract, so I think you know they're they're
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: pretty set there. What did you say?
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 16: You don't think Max is the same as Reggie. They're like,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 16: you know, like players.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: I just don't.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're both going to play full back, and
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: they're not going to.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: Carry to keep too, and it's not you're not going
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: to create a competition after you signed Gilliam to the contract,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: and they also sell a brock Lampy too, who I
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: think is called Jack Westover. I like Max Brett is
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: a good player. I think they're stock to fall back
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 7: Okay, all right, thanks you guys, thanks for call Brad.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: I look, I I you know he started out with Rutledge.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: I've been really anti I'm anti guard. You know that.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: I hate The positional value to me, just doesn't make
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: sense early on in the draft. If they took Rutlige
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: on day two, Let's say they take them at sixty three,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: I hope they he'll be there at ninety five. I'm
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: not gonna like it's not going to be a Cold
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: Strange level meltdown, right, like sixty three. At least you're
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: drafting him where he's supposed to be drafted, and you
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: probably got somebody in the first round. I feel pretty
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: good about it. Fine, but and he can play, and
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: he can play like.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: He's a good Yes, I think he's a better prospect
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: than Cold Strange was.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. But at the same time, I'm
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: still I'm still against it as a as a what's
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: the word I'm looking for?
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: Like just core philosophy, core philosophy. Thank you? Who is
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: your Day three guard? And the Patriots coming?
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: I really like Jeremiah Last right, Uh, can I have
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: him in the fifth round?
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: You should take him a one third. If you have
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: to take him at one thirty one, you're taking him
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: at one thirty one.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: Fine, I really I really like Logan Taylor from Boston.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: College, and you're different players. I like you different.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: I think Logan Taylor is a guard with tackle flexibility,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: not a tackle with guard. Right.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: I think he's been working a little bit at center too.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: So I think he can play guard. And then I think,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: you know, at a starter level. Yeah, if somebody gets hurt,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: he can do the Joe Tunny thing and kick out
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: to tackle if he has to. So it's good flexibility,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: especially as a Day three pick. I really like Logan
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: Taylor for them. I really like Jeremiah Right for them.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: I really like Jalen Farmer from Kentucky for them too.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: I think that, you know, he's kind of in this
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: similar mold as Jeremiah Right, maybe not as as powerful,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: as not as big.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: He might be a top one hundred pick.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a good player. So you know, those are
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: the guys I'm looking at in like the fourth or
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: fifth round range. I wouldn't take any of them in
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: the top one hundred, but fourth or fifth round.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: If they were gonna take a guard in the top
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: one hundred, Yeah, who's your guy? Factoring in where you
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: have to take them? So I can't take Vegas, No,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: I mean you can, so that's probably your top pick. Yeah,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: well you said if I had to take any of
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: the guards, like, where you're realistically gonna have to take them, like,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: considering where you're selected is probably you're trading back from
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: thirty one.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: Uh, so Besontas are pregnant with the trade back rutledgit
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: thirty or Jayalen Farmer or at sixty three or Jalen
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: Farmer at ninety five.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: Relika RETLIGI I think I'm with you. I think there's
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: too much of a gap between Rutledge and the and
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: the rest of the crew. Yeah, I really like like
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: Besis a lot, though.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be pro absolutely, Yeah, good player.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: All right, there's a We've gotten a lot of questions
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: about this, alex So before we get to our our
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: final final picks here by the end of the show.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: Uh Barton poland many others have emailed in about Jamal McCoy,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: the Tennessee Corner out. Uh So, he's there's chatter, scuttle
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: butt that he might fall all the way out of
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: the first round because of a degenerative knee issue. He's
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: got like something on his need.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull up the exact word. Well, so it
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: runs a little deeper than that.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: So it's not the it's it's not exactly the acl though.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: So we had an a cl that he didn't play
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: last year, he should play any of twenty twenty five.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: I'm doing a very bad job of I'll give you
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: the night.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: So he transfers from Morgan State to Tennessee in twenty
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: twenty four. Yet a really good twenty twenty four season,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: thirteen around caliber, thirteam All American, looks like a top
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: fifteen pick. In January of twenty five, he tears his
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: ACL of practice. He was expected to be back during
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: the season, didn't make it back because he had setbacks
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: that continued to the point where he was he wasn't
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: able to work out or he was limited. I forget
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: if he did anything at the combine, but he was
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: still limited by that ACL at the combine. So you're
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: now talking about fifteen months, sixteen months off the torn acel.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: He was still limited. He was able to do a
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: workout at Tennessee. But then we get the report earlier
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: this week quote doctors are concerned that he will need
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: another surgery to replace a bone plug used to repair
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: a cartilage defect in his knee. The concerns are not
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: related to a surgically repaired ACL. There are so many
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: scary words in there. Yeah, there are say I don't
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: mean to pick on the kid. There are so many scared,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: very medical words in there. I don't love it. I
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: know I go to this comp a lot, and I'm
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: just trying to be consistent I did with Josh Simmons
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: last year. It's scream he screams Dominique Easley. And where
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: the Patriots being where they're at a corner under the
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: assumption that Christian's al is going to be here for
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: the long term. They're in a good position at corner.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it again. Doctors are concerned he will
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: need another surgery to replace a bone plug used to
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: repair a cartilage defect in his knee. This is on
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: top of a torn acl that took longer than usual
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: to recover from. Really, and it's not like he had
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: three great years and it's like, okay, what we've seen.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: He had one good season. It was a really good season,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: but it was one season. This is a massive, massive,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: massive projection at a position you don't really need. I'm out.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: I think I said, yes, Sam, Patriots ped if he
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: falls to ninety five, sure, right, that's where I would
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: take him. I take him at ninety five.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: So Rabel's done this in his history. He has picked
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: players with various whether it's injury and off field or
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: injury concerns. It's blown up in his face and it's hit.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: And I remember last year when he took the job
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: with the Patriots and the draft is rolling around. Somebody
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: asked him a question about what he learned about the
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: draft in Tennessee, and he said that he, frankly, would
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: take less injury risks than they did in Tennessee. So
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: Caleb Fairley is like the number one guy that everybody
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: goes to that was had his back, bad back and
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: does it never materialized right here you want it? Yeah,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: we took a couple of guys with this talking about
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: his time in Tennessee. We took a couple of guys
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: with injuries that we thought were talented in maybe what
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: injuries as they fell and the value got to the
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: point where we were comfortable taking them.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: I think that's something that's critical. What's the ability for
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: players to recover from one injury versus another injury, I
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: think is something that I learned. The impact that player
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: makes and demands on a first round pick, I think
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: is something that's just like the quarterback. I think this
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: might be a loose transcription here. Apologize it doesn't have
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: to be the face of the franchise. But everybody's gonna
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: be talking about the first round pick from the time
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: that we picked them for as long as to hear,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: so that kind of gets carried with him. I think
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: you have to have that add tone demeanor. So, yeah,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: talks about managing injuries and again this is a this
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: is not a light one.
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  Speaker 2: So Caleb Fairley was the big one that was their
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: first round pick in twenty twenty one. He had the
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: back really played twenty one games in the NFL twenty one.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't even as it was that many.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Isaiah Wilson had a bunch of things. He had
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: an injury, he had off field issues. They picked him
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: at tackle, a tackle out of Georgia. They picked him
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: at twenty nine in twenty twenty. He played one game
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: in the NFL one game. Jeffrey Simmons was the one
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: that worked. They picked Jeffrey Simmons. He was coming off
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: an injury. Obviously, Jeffrey Simmons is maybe one of the
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: greatest Titans of all time, right, so that one hit big,
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: but with fairly with Wilson, I just think that they're
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: going to be out on a guy like McCoy. My
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: big takeaway you know. My take on the McCoy thing
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: just separate from what I think they're gonna do. If
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: a guy that talented is falling to thirty one in
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: the draft, there's a reason you should stay away like that.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: Nobody knows something. I don't stick with somebody.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: There's no way that that is a good that he
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: that player of that caliber follows thirty picks in the
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: draft without it being seen and now looks some people
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: say this happened Will Johnson last year, and Will Johnson
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: was fine. But Will Johnson also had like there were
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: a lot of concerns about his speed, his top end speed,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: in like, there are concerns about him as a player,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: like his profile as a player.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: Well, no, I think he was supposed to be a
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: top ten pick.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: Well, I just felt like there was It was more
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: than just I think that the injury, coupled with the
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: fact that some people were in one hundred percent sold
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: on him as a prospect, led to a sort of,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: you know, a domino effect form.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: Just Albert Breer wrote, the case is quote similar to
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: maybe a little worse than Will Johnson's last year.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, I I don't see them doing it.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: It's also there's like, yeah, he had a good year.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: There's like a long term durability thing. And that's why
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: I think Will Johnson went kind of early in the
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: second round. And it goes to Frabel's quote. There is
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: a difference that comes with even if it's just a
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: matter of a few picks, there's a difference that comes
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: with being the first pick, the first round pick, or
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: the first pick for a team, and then the next guy.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: You can take more that risk in the second round
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: and maybe he gives you one or two good seasons
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: and that's it. People might chalk that up to okay
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: in the second round, like you look at Malcolm Mitchell.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: People look at Malcolm Mitchell's SSS, right. I think I
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: don't know from what I see. I think a lot
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: of people for the fourth round pick for where the
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: Patriots were, they got a super Bowl out of that pick,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: and if they taken Malcolm Mitchell in the first round
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: woulout have been the same story. No, probably not.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: The idea. Yeah, I'm out on it as well. All right,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: next call here Eric is in Louisiana.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: What's up? Eric?
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  Speaker 16: Hey Evan and h.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 9: Oh my gods, I'm as I'm sorry barnya got is
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 9: doing today?
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: Good?
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 9: All right?
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: It's Alex.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 9: So I guess I had this question a while back,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 9: and I guess I didn't say it well. But for
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 9: this first round pick, whether it be wide receiver, edge
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 9: rusher most probably not likely. Uh, it could be a there,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 9: but just say wide receiver edge is there, and Mike
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 9: Rabel really likes a set player, and they, you know,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 9: run up to pick that guy. What do we expect
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 9: like out of the edge wresher or the wide receiver
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 9: to say, oh, we have something here, like he might
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 9: be possibly a star. Like are we looking at if
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 9: it's a wide receiver, are we looking at like key
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 9: matchups like versus corners, if it's edges like exact same thing,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 9: Or are we looking at stats when it comes to
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 9: edge like sacks or pressures, Like what are some key
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 9: takeaways we should look at all these rookies coming into
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 9: this year. And I'll take it off.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Eric, Yeah, I think I kind of get
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: the question. Don't answer guy with no name though, Okay,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: it's it's Alex. By the way, This is Alex. Because
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: you're wondering.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: Most peop call me bar.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: Okay. So here's the uh, I think I kind of
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: get what he's saying. Look, honestly, with edge rusher, I
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: think it's kind of an eye test thing a little
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: bit more than wide receiver if you want like a
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: specific number at wide receiver, because it's easier to like,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: I know, there's sacks and pressures, but like it's kind
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: of easier at receiver. The five to twenty five club
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: is the big one, right. Receivers that produce over five
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five yards as rookies tend to go
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: on to have really good careers, Like you know, that
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: tends to be like the line of demarcation. That's kind
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: of why I'm sort of low right now on Kyle
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: Williams because it's not just that Kyle Williams didn't hit
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: the five twenty five club. He didn't even come close, right,
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: So like that that's the number that you try to
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: look for Edge Rusher. You know, I don't have like
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: a stat like that, like if you have forty plus
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: pressures as a rookie, yar, So I don't have a
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: number that's exactly like that that has a history, But
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: I think you you really will see it with the
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: way that the team approaches it in terms of playing
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: time at bold position because I don't if they go
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: edge rusher wide receiver, and I don't know if they're
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: gonna go wide receiver, But if they go either one
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: of those positions, they do have an NFL caliber depth
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: on the roster that if that player is not the
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: best player, then that player is not going to play
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: right Like, you know, it's not like they're going into
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: a situation where they don't have a starting left defensive
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: end and no matter who they draft and how good
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: he is, he's going to play over the rest of
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: the people like Draymond Jones and Harold Landry if he's healthy,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: or NFL players. So like, if that edge rusher is
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: already starting to crack the rotation and is already starting
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: to push for playing time against those guys, I think
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: that's a pretty good sign. So I'd say the five
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: to twenty five club is probably not something we'll find
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: out until December or January of next year, so you
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: might have to wait a little bit. At edge rusher,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: I think if they're playing and they're contributing on a
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: team that has you know, some veteran talent on it
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: at that position, you feel pretty good about you know,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: that guy broke through, you know is better than Harold
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: Landry by the end of the year, you'd feel pretty
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: optimistic about that. Do you have an answer to that?
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: I think you pretty much covered. I know we got
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: a couple more calls.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Marcus is in South Carolina. What's up, Marcus?
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: It was going on Fellers. He always loved the show.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 4: Love y'all's perspective, younger perspectives, not grumpy. But yeah, I
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 4: wanted to ask y'all. I's not specifically draft related. That's
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 4: kind of draft related. Assuming we trade that pick, the
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 4: thirty first pick to the Eagles, you know, where is
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 4: that rank? Because I expect Drake made to take a
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 4: huge leap, Like everybody was talking about his playoff woes
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 4: and I just feel like he was technically the first
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 4: time in the offense. Where where do y'all see him
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 4: ranking next year as season?
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 6: What do you.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 4: Project him as far as if A J. Brown ends
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 4: up a Patriot?
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 15: Thanks?
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: Thanks Marcus for talking about Drake May. Yeah, top ten
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: quarterback in the league.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, should be right back in the MVP. And now
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: they're facing a little bit of a tougher schedule. But
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to have a better team around
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: him another year in the system. I I guess, let
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: me ask you this and I I get into this
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: stuff more once the draft happens and we have a
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: clear idea of the roster. Yeah, would a stagnant season
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: for Drake may be a good thing or a bad thing?
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: Good?
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it might be stagnant, and that's usually as
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: negative connotation. If he's more or less the guy he
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: was last year, that's a win. And I think he
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: might be. I think he might. Maybe there's some better
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: decision making, things are a little more refined, but with
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: it being a tougher schedule, there's some more awards that
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: come with it. But like, statistically, if he's more or
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: less or he was last year, which I think is
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: very possible, I'd feel pretty good about.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: That franchise quarterback level, right.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, much better he's getting.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: Like that's I think that there's sort of the answers
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: to the test element.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the pre snap stuff we talked about this week.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: Stuff you know, seeing you know, getting things pointed in
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: the right direct, beating blitzes, having answers basically to the
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: things that he saw in the playoffs and he saw
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: it and maybe more particularly against Seattle in the Super Bowl.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: But I don't know, and you know, Mike Rabel has
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: mentioned this too over this offseason. Physically, it's kind of
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: hard to picture being any better at the quarterback position
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: physically than Drake may is currently is right, I mean,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: just in terms of arm talent, mobility, you know, accuracy
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: down the field, like I don't really know if there's
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know of another level of that exists mentally,
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: you know, and then the intangible stuff that Rabill probably
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: season cares about a little bit more than I do
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: because I don't, you know, I'm not in the locker
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: room like that. That type of stuff maybe is the
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: next step for him. But if he has a replica
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: of what he had last season, that means he's that guy,
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: Like that's just who he's gonna be. That guy's gonna
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: give you a chance be in the playoffs and be
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: in the hunt every single year. If he's like that
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: that player for the next you know, eight to ten years,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: then I mean he's gonna be wearing a red jacket
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: some day. He's gonna be a great Patriot, you know.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: So you feel really good about that the whole thing
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: that you're trying to avoid. And I think, you know,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: this kind of goes back to the whole AJ Brown
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: of it all too. As a caller alluded to the
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: AJ Brown thing. To me is like it goes back
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: to why they signed Diggs last offseason. It's a floor thing, right,
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: Like you don't want to pull the rug from underneath
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: Drake May where he doesn't have enough to be, you know,
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: a player that you don't want him to regress right right,
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: and to avoid regression, you know that obviously means surrounding
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: him with the right and necessary tools to avoid regression.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: I don't think that quarterbacks regress solely because of things
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: that happened on to them individually. Like let's just take
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: the Houston Texans for example, and I think really highly
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: of Nikkosario, So I don't want to like crap all
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: over Houston, But see j Stroud had the great rookie year,
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: and he has regressed every single year since. Well, I
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: think that that somewhat directly ties to the play of
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: their offensive line and what they've done in front of him.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: You know, their offensive line over the last couple of
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: years has not been good. And when a quarterback, as
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: we've seen here, starts to get hit, starts to get
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: sped up, starts to you know, get you know, jitter's
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: back there, then the mistakes start the snowball like that.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's a mistake that CJ. Stroud. I
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: don't think it's only on c J Stroud that CJ.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: Strout is not right stayed at the level that he
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: was his rookie season. So if you're the Patriots, it's infrastructure,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: it's foundation. You just need to try to avoid c J.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: Strouding Drake May. Yeah.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: I mean I even go back to something I said
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: during the mac Jones error, which is people were talking about, well,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: you know, it's not a great situation, and he was
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: a first round pick. You should be able to elevate
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: the situation, which like, yeah, and he didn't obviously, But
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: it's also people act like giving a quarterback help us
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: like a dirty thing. Oh he needs help. Why would
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: you not want to help your quarterback, whether it's with
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: the system, whether it's personnel, whether it's with whatever. Yeah,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: why not make it easier for him? If he's good,
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: making it easier for him makes him great. If he's great.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: Making easier for him makes them spectacular. If he's spectacular,
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: making it easier on him maybe makes him the MVP,
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: makes him a super Bowl winner. Of course, you want
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: to make life as easy on your quarterback as possible.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who it is, whether it's Drake May,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: whether it's Lamar Jackson, whether it's Patrick Mahomes. Bill certainly
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: haven't done it for Josh Allen, and you see how
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: that's gone. Josh Allen, despite when he says, sometimes a
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: pretty good player, but they don't make it easy on
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: all the time up there in Buffalo. Of course, you
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: want to make things easy on your quarterback. Yeah, so
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: I although he might have crossed his savers the game list, Yeah.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: I think he did. Henry's in DC. What's up Henry?
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 13: Hey, guys, thanks for making my call. Evan, I know
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 13: you're proud of your my guys list, and I'm wondering
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 13: who's from Matt list if the Patriots draft him, will
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 13: you feel most proud of yourself for having nailed to
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 13: an evaluation? And then, if you have time, what explains
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 13: the man's own split for Denzel Boston Because that's never
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 13: really made sense to me when I've heard you talking
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 13: about that player.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: Thanks again, Yeah, thanks for the call, Henry H. Well,
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: I would just say if I nailed the event, we
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: won't know for two to three years, if I nailed
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: the evaluation right, not to go all like scout on you,
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: but like my goal is also to project who's going
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: to be good in the NFL, not just to the
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: Patriots are gonna pick.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to do who they're gonna pick.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: So, like I don't want to if they would be.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: The one where you're like, okay, so.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: If they d My point is if they draft Chris Brazil, yeah,
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: and then Chris Brasel's Taekwon Thornton, then I'm not gonna
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: feel good about that.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: No, you know that I'm gonna be good for you.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be very wrong. Okay, Well, let me
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: let me ask you this way. Like name out Malick
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: hi Warrants. They mentioned wanting speed off the edge. He
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: came here for top thirty visit, like you didn't really
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: have if they draft Malick high Warrants and I took
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: him into my yeah too, but like didn't really sleuth
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: that one out.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: No, that one didn't take too much of a deep
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: dive fagre out on their forehead a little bit.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: Who's the guy you you are, Like, this guy's a patriot,
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: They're gonna take them, They're gonna like them that everybody
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: else is gonna be like wow, really and you're like, no,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: this is this is the however good or bad he is,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: Like this guy fits and you're not all paying enough
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: attention to him. I have two for you, Okay.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: I know people can have asked me this question a
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: couple of times over the last week, and I haven't
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: come up with a great answer. But I have two
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: guys that come to Mike, uh Travis Burke from Memphis
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: to tackle just the size, the power, the finishing ability,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: that the attitude. Uh it feels you know that they
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: put a lot of emphasis on that with Will Campbell
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: like being somebody that's gonna set a tone in like
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: a program kind of way. I think Travis Burke fits that. Bill.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: I'm also really high on Aidan Fisher from Indiana. Yeah,
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: I just think Aiden Fisher is this like polished inside
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: my linebacker where the green die do the robertspulane right,
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: Like he's gonna just be a lunch pale, come to work,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: work hard, play the role be a Simon sound. Is
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: he gonna be a star in the league. Probably not,
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: but that just feels very spelany, very you know, very bowl. Okay,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: I'll give you those two.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: So I got a couple like, I'm not gonna go
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: Adam Randall here because they met with him, and that
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: one's been hyped up. Yeah, And as Cooper the guard
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: from Miami. Yeah, but they have that pipeline. A lot
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: of people talking about Jeremiah, right, I understand it if
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: they don't get Jeremiah right. And as Cooper's kind of
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: the other guy you take if you want that kind
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: of player, yep. And then this guy did have a
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: thirty visit. So maybe I'm not answering my own question correctly.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: But he hasn't been talked about a lot or at
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: hall Is kron Prunty, the corner from wake Forest, this
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: deep pull. He is the makeup of a special teams
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: demon and I don't I didn't even realize this last
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: week when I was writing something. In terms of the
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: snaps played last year, they have lost three of their
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: top five and four of their top ten SPS teams
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: players excluding kicker, puncher, long snapper. Yeah, they need special
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: teams bodies. They all seed cornerback depth. When Prunty does
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: play corner and he was a third team All ACC
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: this year. Really good size, plays on the boundary, physical
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: like their kind of guy kind of reminds me of
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: Kobe Minor. I think he's a little bit better of
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: a like version of Kobe Minor, who they obviously took
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: last year for this exact role. I'm describing two forty
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: seven's on the clock Karan Prunty to compete with Kobe
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: Minor for like the last spot on the roster.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: So my guy Natt muld would Tree mccutchin from Houston.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: So I saw him in your mock trap. I'm not
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: even familiar with him. You dug deeper than me on So.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: This is I'll give Dan the credit. He's in the
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: Beast as a as a high you know, top twenty
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: guy at the cornerback position. U and I watched him.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: You know, he's got some some technique things to work out,
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: but he's got outside corner speed, outside corner size, man
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: coverage ability and was like an ACE gunner special teams
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: kick coverage guy. The other guy that was like that
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: for you at safety was Spears Jennings from Roberts Us
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: a good combat yeah, and like just another like raw
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: athlete really needs to work on his like play recognition
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: and instincts and coverage if he's gonna make it at safety.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: But I think two guys that you could draft in
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: the sixth round there are gonna just play in the
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: kicking game. Because I'm with you, whether they go safety,
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: corner or linebacker later on Day three, in any of
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: those combinations, those guys they need guys to contribute on
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: in the kicking game on special teams for Gibbons Mapho
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: to buy. They lost a lot of guys on special
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: teams this offseason.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna ask you one more before we
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: get to our picks, because I have one email I
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: want to read. Okay, who is the one guy? I
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: don't know how many mock drafts did you? Three? Two?
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: Two?
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: I did three? Who is the one? And actually did
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: five first round picks? I did the NFL ones two.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: Who's the one guy you wanted to work into a
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: mock draft that you didn't that they're gonna pick him?
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: And you're gonna be like I should have been right
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: about this. I should have had him in a mock
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: but I never got around to it. I'll give you mine,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: and I can't believe I never did it, because I
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: think he's the most obvious pick, and that's probably why
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: I never got to him. It was just like, I'll
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: have time to mock him later. And then we got
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: to the end, I was like, shoot, I never did that.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: I never put Casius Hawl to them in a mock draft.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: I probably should have done that. They're probably gonna take
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: cash as how and prove me wrong. Usually my answer
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: to this question is some like Day three running back
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: I think was rahiem Ali a couple of years ago,
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: because obviously gonna get Will Cambell in a mock draft,
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Rake may I. I screwed up. I
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: never got I lost track again. It was a sprint
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: out of Marathon. I somehow didn't mock Casius Howl to him.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: I got Zion Young, I got Malachai Lawrence, I got
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: a key Mezzador. I probably should have done him instead
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: of Mezzador in that first one. I thought Mezador's age
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: was going to knock him down the board more than
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: it did, but I didn't get cashus Hal in there,
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: and that's on me.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: So, you know, my my my board of record is
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: my big board. I don't really look. I count the mock.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: Drafts, but that's so many more players.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: But I still that's that's what I do, right, the
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: big board. And the one guy that I really wanted
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: to put on the big board, but it just didn't
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: work and didn't fit with Genesis Smith from Arizona because
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: I feel like they need a cover safety. They are
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: gonna He can play a little bit in the slot,
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: he can play deep safety. He played slot in twenty
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: four deep safety and twenty five did him both pretty well.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: His big knock is his tackling. He's not a very
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: good tackler, but the way he covers and the roles
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: that he can play. So, you know, I love Bud Clark.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: You know, that's another one of my guys in this draft.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: I had to pick between the two of them. Yeah,
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: and I ended up putting Bud Clark on the board
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: instead of Genesis. All right, So the Patriot ended up
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: taking Genesis Smith and not Bud Clark.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: The Patriots first two picks in this draft will be
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: Cashius Hall and Genesis Smith.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I really liked I know this is like a
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: big yeah, but yeah, if they can teach him how
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: to tackle, his coverage ability is off the charts. Good.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: I'll throw another guy in that that they've been linked
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: in the last couple of days that we're not high on.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: This would be the catch twenty two just missed this draft. Yeah,
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: it would be Cashus Hall at thirty one, Eli Stower's
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: sixty three, Genesis Smith at ninety five.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: So I don't feel like I we talked enough about Eli.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: We didn't really miss Eli start, but he's a good player.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: I just struggle we're gonna get misunderstood on Eli Steers.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: I think the biggest issue that I have with Eli
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: Stowers is that if they draft him. It's kind of
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: the same thing with Zion Young. I mentioned I was
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: writing my We're gonna seg like, I just can't mean
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: I wrote five h pre wrote five pieces on guys
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: that they might draft, and if it's Stowers at some point,
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: or it's Zion Young at another point, this is at
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, is Patriots dot Com all.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: I also don't want to just say that a guy's
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: gonna stink before he even plays it down in the NFL.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: I just don't get to fit.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: The way that I am going to have to do
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: mental gymnastics to try to sell Eli stoweres or Zion Young,
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: but also make it clear that I'm not super high
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: on the pick. I'll give you an example. This happened
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: with me with Jaren Polk. You or like, I didn't
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: really like the player, but the Patriots just drafted him.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: I worked for the team. It was like, how am
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: I supposed to I can't have a cold, strange level
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: melt down right now, so I'm gonna have to just
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: keep it cool. That's gonna be the tough one. I
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: have a really quick email that I wanted to get to,
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: and then we're going to make our picks. Yeah, this
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: is more of a generic thing, but I'm interested to
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: hear your take on it. So the email or email,
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: this is Joe from the Darkness. He says that me uh,
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: reading the picks off and tipping picks. I want to
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: hear your take on that in general. But he said
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: that on the draft show. I normally just kind of
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 2: like nonshine, be like, yeah, they picked Will Campbell guy
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: and and like that. No, I just like, that's why
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: when it actually happens, I.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: Just kind of like he wants, yeah, exactly, that's the pick.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: He wants to uh, you know, he wants some more
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: production value or something that isn't just me being like
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: trumpets Drake may Yeah.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: You guys are an NFL property. Play the play the ESPN,
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: try the music, play the pick.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: It said, we usually play the sound of Cadell reading
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: the pics, Okay, but I usually find out about ninety seconds.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: So what I've done in the past, so that's what
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: I'm getting at is do you tip picks? Do you
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: are you a pro tip picker or are you.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: I like what Mike Greese does. Mike Grease tweets an
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: emoji and you have to figure out off the emoji
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: who they took. Like last year he did Snapping Fingers
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: and there was a guy forget who there was a
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: safety whose last name was snaps her Fingers or something,
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: and I was like, did they take this random safety?
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: And every was like, no, long snapper. I was like, oh, okay,
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: what I have done the CLNS draft show we did
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: this is pre Evan Lazar CLNS.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: Wow, So this.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: Would have been the twenty eighteen draft. This was the
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: Sony Michelle Isaiah Win draft YEP, where we were live
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: and I'm seeing the people tipping the picks. I was
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: like twenty four. I wanted to seem like I knew
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: what I was talking about. Let's see the pick, and
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: like I didn't do this with the Patriots. I actually
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: called the Sony Michelle pick. I was on tracks. Can
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: confirm this, yeah, because we had him on on a
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: phoner and I was like, hey, do you think they'd
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: go double Georgian? Go Sony Michelle? But you know, we'll
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: be getting there and I'm seeing them, I'm seeing Twitter
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: and we're talking about I'm like, hmm, you guys think
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: the Dolphins would go make a Fitzpatrick here? And by
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: the way, the guys on the desk totally do this,
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: like the guys in the ESPN and NFL. They get
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: it in their ear and they're like, huh, I wonder
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: if the Raiders would go Colton Miller with this pick.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: Something to watch.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: I don't do that.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: Anymore, but I did that one year and have fun
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: with it.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: Just to be clear, because it's in the chatting, I
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: get the question. I'm not saying I can't be critical
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 2: of the team ever. I'm just saying that I might
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: be wrong, right, So like, if they draft somebody that
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: I don't particularly like, like, we'll go back to the examples.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 2: One of my five pre rights was Zion Young. If
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 2: they drave Zion Young, I'm not going to be super
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: high on it. But I'm not going to come on
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: the show and be like horrible like what I did
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: with Cold Strange right, like and have this whole meltdown
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: because maybe in six months They're going to be right
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: about Zion Young and I'm going to be wrong. Right,
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: There's that always that possibility. So I wrote five pre rights,
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: which tips off kind of where I think this is headed.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: I have eleven on my to do list Jesus Christ, Max,
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: want to be prepared, Maxiana Toy, Blake, Miller, cash Is, Howell, Malki, Lawrence,
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: Zion Young.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: Those are my.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: Five, Okay, I have I have all of those, Yeah,
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: I have I Miller, howl Parker Young, Lawrence Our, Mason,
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: Thomas gay back is because I can quickly turn those
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: around if they trade back. And then Cad McDonald, Denzel Boston,
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: Casey conception.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, so the only ones that I thought about doing that.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: I haven't done to the two receivers.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: So and also I don't know if you're doing like
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: more in depth, like these aren't no, these are just
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: like this is five breaking is like for all the
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: edge rushers, Like the first two paragraphs will be about them,
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: but like you put at the end, he joins Draymond
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: Jones and Harol Landernewing, like that I can call. I
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: don't have to write six different articles. I just have
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: to do a little bit. There's some copying, but we're
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: doing a lot of inside baseball in the.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: Show, a lot of how the process I really that's
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: that was what I noticed as I was doing this
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: yesterday and I started got into the swing of it,
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh wait a second, Like if they
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: take an edge rusher, it's the same spiel about why
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: they took the edge rusher right for all these guys.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: So that ended up just being copy and paste. So
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: those are the five guys, and I think that kind
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: of tells people where I'm sort of at of where
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: they're gonna go. So we can do the ESPN chime
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: for the show. And I'm gonna ask you, Alex Bart
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: with the thirty first pick in the twenty twenty six
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: NFL Draft, the New England Patriots will select.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: They won't. I'm actually gonna say trade down. I'm leaning
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: more trade down if they pick at thirty one, which
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not rolling out, but yeah, if they pick at
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: thirty one, I'm gonna go cash us. Well, I didn't
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: mock them, I probably should have. I think he makes
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of good torture yourself. I think, yes, oh yeah,
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: had have you not seen me the week before the draft?
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: I think if he haunted most likely hanare right. If
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: he Hana Troy Miller there, they'll take them. I'm buying
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: into the idea that all seven tackles go in the
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: top thirty. Okay, so I think they would like to
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: take a tackle. I think that would be their ideal pick.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: It's nice to have. They don't often go that way.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: And then when the board falls, I think it's cash
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: as hell if they do trade back. I actually think
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks make a lot. If they don't trade back,
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: and they said they want to, the Seahawks can be
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: cash as hall a team. He's really a fit for
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: what they do too. So I'm gonna go cash as
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: hell at thirty one, Malachi Lawrence fits a trade back.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 2: So I I I'm gonna say, ma, Maxianatur.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: I think, Okay, you think he's gonna be there?
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: I think that is their dream pick. If he is there.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: If he's there, he's the pick. I think, do you
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna be there?
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be there because ultimately with there
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 2: and maybe I guess the teams that are picking in
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: the twenties or you know, even thirty have this potentially
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: this luxury too. But I do think Max is a
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: potential rookie red shirt player, if not the whole year,
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: at least a portion of the season. Not a lot
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: of teams that have to tackle depth to do that.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: That is the one spot the Patriots, not the one spot,
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: but a spot that the Patriots might have the luxury
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: of red shirting a player behind Morgan Moses at that spot.
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  Speaker 2: So there's not when you think about it, like there's
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: not a lot of teams that have that luxury. The
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: Patriots are one of a few. So that means that
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: in the first round at least, I think there's only
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 2: a small handful of teams that can take a chance
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 2: on a guy like Keanitor and take a chance on
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 2: a guy like Caleb Blomo too. I would say who
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: also might need some time. So I'm gonna say Maxianator today.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 2: I would also say close runner up to maxi Ontore.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say that he's off the board. I think Malachi
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: Lawrence is like the sneaky pick at thirty one. If
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: the tackle doesn't fall all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, if they don't go tackle edge or receiver, who
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: do they take a McDonald fo Yeah, I'm with you,
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: but I.
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  Speaker 2: Think that Malachi Lawrence the reason why I've sort of
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: I'm a catches howl guy. I've been cashs howl over
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 2: Malkay Lawrence this entire time. Taking back to back players
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 2: with outlier measurements for the position you're drafting them to
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: play does not feel like the best sort of PR
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: messing fate.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I would want them to draft off at
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: PR move, but I do move is the wrong word.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying tessing fate. It's like you got
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: an outlier and Will Campbell. What are the chances you
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: get to outliers two years in a row.
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 2: So I think cashus hawl is a better play prospect
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: and a better player than Malachi Lawrence, especially right now.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: But I think Malachi Lawrence has a mense upside. He
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: has a little bit more of the measurables that you're
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: looking for. He's still not the biggest guy, but it's
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: at least a little bit bigger than guy like cash
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: Is Howl in terms of the length and the wingspan,
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 2: uh and the yeah height as well.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: So we're basically we're kind of in the same spot.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: Ivana Trurph, he's there if he's not there Howl or Lawrence.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say, Maxionotor, I'm gonna lock that in.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: You're gonna say trade down that if you had to,
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: like gun to your head.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think they're gonna trade, but that that's
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: not for the sake of the exercise. I'm gonna say,
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: Malachi Lawrence, I don't think is gonna make it to them.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: I don't I think they would take him if they could.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think he makes it to them, and they
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: go ahead, Rusher, I'm gonna say, hell all right.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: So those are our picks, the top ten, our pick
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 2: for the Patriots at thirty one. This show schedule for
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: tomorrow from one to two we have our cocktail Hour,
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm calling it. On Patriots Draft Countdown. We're
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 2: we're gonna give some last second thoughts, kick around some
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: ideas before the draft. That should be a fun time.
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: You come in like in like you know your hoodie,
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 2: like that's your casual where, right, and it's just kind
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 2: of a precursor to the draft. Then at seven pm
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: we our stream will start and we'll be live through
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 2: the entire first round till the end of the night.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 2: So it's gonna be a long couple of days, but
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 2: it'll be a great couple of days.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: And I will actually be here. Oh I haven't been
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 1: here in a couple of years because so we got
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: really lucky the last couple years there were no playoff nights.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: So I was actually for the Drake maypick. We were
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 1: up at Patriots Place. I was up in New Hampshire
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: last year for a live show. Nothing this year. And look,
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: if there's a we threaded that needle perfectly, like if
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: there was a year to lose the show. But I'll
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: be here to lette and I'll be doing check ins
• 2:01:01
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  Speaker 2: I like that play Friday, so you're you're really off.
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: The Yeah, we'll do the same thing Friday Saturday though,
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: got all day Saturday.
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. All right? So seven pm is
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 2: the live Draft show tomorrow on Patriots dot Com. The
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots Draft Countdown cocktail hours, So we'll see you
• 2:01:24
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