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Hidden agendas in the music industry · UK Column Radio

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Mark Devlin, thank you for joining me in the trenches.
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What's up brother? Good to be with you.
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I was taking my dogs this morning to the Parlour and I was
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listening to some old school punk rock Livingtons and No
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Effects. I'm not sure if you're a punk
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rock guy yourself, but I guess what I want to ask you is what's
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in your playlist right now? Well, that's a very good
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question. In terms of punk rock, I was
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never really a big fan of the genre.
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I do remember a lot about it because I grew up in the 1970s
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and I can remember a friend of mine when we were both 7 went
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out and bought the Sex Pistols. And I can't remember what the A
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side was, but the B side was frigging in the rigging.
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And it's very, it's a very dirty, smutty sailors sort of
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song. And he had to keep it a secret
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from his dad. His mum knew that he bought the
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record. She gave him the money that he
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had to keep it a secret from his dad because he would have gone
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mad and said, well, taken a hammer and broken it up
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probably. So that's one of my memories of
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the punk era and I could remember all those bands coming
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through in the late 70s and stuff.
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I remember hearing him play on the radio, but I was never
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really into that. I was more of a black music guy.
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So I was into pop music, whatever was in the charts up
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until my teenage years. And then a school friend turned
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me on to black dance music in the mid 80s.
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So this was soul, funk, early rap and hip hop, early house
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music and I've got into all of that and when I became ADJ that
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was the route that I took. I played primarily R&B, hip hop,
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reggae and that took me all over the world.
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As we were just talking about off air.
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I've been to South Africa a few times to DJ, but just this week
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I've been assembling a 1985 mix. So what I've done for the past
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couple of summers is gone back 40 years in time and done a
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really long mix of the best soulful dance tunes of that
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year. So I'm on 1985 and I was
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researching some of the tunes last night and wow, what some
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great music around that year. So last night I was playing
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Sheila E, the belle of Saint Mark from her album The
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Glamorous Life. And Sheila E was a protege of
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Prince and in her music you can hear Prince's influence majorly
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because he wrote the tunes and produced them.
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And it's just fantastic music. Prince put out such phenomenal
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output in the mid 80s. Just love all his stuff.
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And there was also a song by Ready For the World from 1985
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called Oh Sheila, which is like a tribute to Sheila E and that's
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very funky, that sort of Minneapolis funk sound, very
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much in a Prince style. So in a long winded way of
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answering your question, that's the sort of stuff I've been
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listening to lately. Lots of 80s, lots of 80s dance
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music. Chatting to somebody like you
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though, I find quite depressing because I don't want to know
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about the dark side of an industry that is otherwise so
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entertaining. It's a double edged sword doing
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this work because I'm still a music fan.
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I can't live without music. And early on, when I put out my
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first Musical Truth book, which was based on my first five years
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worth of research into the true nature of the music industry and
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what it's really used for, I did stop listening to music for a
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while because I got pissed off at all these revelations that
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were coming through about any of these artists and these bands
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and these styles and even DJs that I'd enjoyed.
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And so there was a period where I turned my back on all of that
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and I thought, I'm just going to listen to podcasts and speech
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based output and, you know, inform myself on stuff.
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And after a few months of doing that, I found I was really
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wallowing in doom and gloom. A lot of the speech based
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podcasts were very heavy and dense and not particularly good
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for the spirit, not good for the mental health.
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And I found I had to turn back to music and I had to either
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gravitate towards music which appeared to fall outside of
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these industry agendas. And the soulful house genre for
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me has achieved that. So I listen to a lot of soulful,
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uplifting dance music and a lot of it is gospel infused.
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A lot of it draws on old disco tunes from the 70s and to my
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ears and my thinking, that is very bright, positive,
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uplifting, feel good music, which has stayed outside of the
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usual agendas. So I do listen to a lot of that,
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but I also do listen to a lot of the artists and bands that I
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expose because whatever the case, wherever they came from
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and whatever the ultimate agenda was in them being put out there,
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it is still great music. These artists were top of their
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field for a reason, because they were great.
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We can speculate on where they got their training and you know
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how they got into the game in the 1st place, but it's still
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fantastic output. And so I do still listen to
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music by the artists that I talk about and I'm able to separate
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the artist and the art, the music from whatever the agenda
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may have been, whatever the detail behind these artists.
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So it's important that we do inform ourselves because if
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we're being mass mind controlled, and if we're having
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our viewpoints and our perspectives and our thoughts
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and our behaviours even dictated by social engineers through
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popular culture and entertainment which has been
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weaponized against us, we need to be aware of that.
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And we need to get that into the conscious mind where it can be
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properly processed and comprehended.
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But we can also continue to enjoy the music if we choose,
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because now we've got all this stuff out of the subconscious
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mind, which is where the controllers rely on it working
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its magic and doing its thing. And when it's in the conscious
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mind, you know what's going on and it can't then affect you.
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That's what I've always argued. People disagree with me on this
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and they say, oh, you should, you should turn your back on
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these bands. They're not good for you and
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it's not great to listen to their music.
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But now I can't live without music.
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I know many other people can't. And there's no reason why you
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can't continue to enjoy these artists output.
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But that's the thing, Mark. Music has been part of the human
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condition. Whatever.
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That's right. And I'm reminded of a comment
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which I bring up often in interviews.
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There was a show called How Dance Music Changed the World
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and it was aired on BBC Four, those nice people at the BBC in
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2017 and they interviewed Moby. And he said, if we were doing
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this interview 10,000 years ago, someone might ask, what do you
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think is compelling these people to dance around this campfire in
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a ceremonial fashion, in a tribal fashion?
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Well, some sort of shaman beats out a rhythm on animal skin drum
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and the fire light flickers in their eyes and they're under the
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influence of plant medicine, which has changed their
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consciousness. He said.
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You've just described a situation 10,000 years ago.
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And last night in the club, a word to that effect.
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And what he was doing was drawing parallels between
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ancient tribal civilizations who would have held events just like
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that, where they would have danced around a fire at night
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and they would have been under the influence of plant medicine.
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There'd been a shaman administering that.
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There'd be somebody bashing out a rhythm and they'd be dancing
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in a communal fashion. That's what happens in
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nightclubs. That's what happened in the
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early days of raves and acid house warehouse parties, which
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got the whole electronic dance music scene going in the UK.
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If you think about it, all those elements were there.
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There's the mind altering drugs, which in the case of electronic
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dance music is primarily MDMA, known as ecstasy.
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You've got the the music, the rhythm, the music provides the
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rhythm and music seems to speak to us in a very deep, inherent,
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primal way. It seems to be built into the
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very fabric of what it is to be human, to gravitate towards
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music and rhythm. And that's why the weaponization
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of certain music genres has been so successful, because the
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controllers know, they're behavioural scientists, they're
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anthropologists, they know how the human mind works, the human
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psyche and how to get into it and manipulate it.
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And they know that we naturally gravitate towards a sense of
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rhythm. And then you've got the communal
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aspect. So in that tribal example, you
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know, all the folk from the community are getting together
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and all partaken in this ceremony.
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And in the modern dance music version you've got loads of
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young people all coming together.
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It's not much of a party when there's five people in the room,
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but if you've got 500 people in the room now you've got a party
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because everyone's pooling their consciousness and everyone's
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responding to the music in the same way.
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If they're under the influence of mind altering drugs, they're
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having the similar kind of experiences at the same time.
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And another aspect is the icons and the motifs, the visual
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aspect. So these are very important and
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they always were a big part of acid house culture and dance
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music. When the Super clubs got going,
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there'd be all kinds of signs and symbols and sigils, which is
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another thing that speaks very deeply to the human psyche.
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And so the controllers, I would argue the social engineers who
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got their hands on the dance music scene very early on and
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steered off in certain desired directions, understood all this
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and they knew that the visual aspect is very important, the
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mind altering aspect is very important, and the communal
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aspect and the rhythmic aspect is very important.
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So all those elements have been present and it's been a very
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successful operation. I think we can conclude.
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I remember the Satanic Panic and how my folks were so worried.
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You know, thanks to our church and our community.
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Which music, you know, we were listening to and everything was
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satanic and evil and, and then that all fell away in the 90s.
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And I look back at that now and some of those songs, and it's
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funny. Well, it makes me laugh when I
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think back to those days of the Satanic Panic, which I remember
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well, 1980s, and that seems to have been triggered by a lot of
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these heavy metal, heavy rock groups.
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And there was actually a case, there was a case in 1990, which
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is fairly late in the timeline involving Judas Priest, British
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heavy rock group. And there was a court case
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centred around these two young men in America who had allegedly
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discerned a bat masked message in a Judas Priest recording.
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So when the record was played backwards, apparently one of the
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lyrics came out as simply do it, do it.
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And these young men interpreted this as kill yourself.
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And so they went out and got drunk, so the story goes, and
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they had a shotgun and one of them shot himself and died
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straight away. The other one shot himself and
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died later in hospital. And the case went to court and
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the prosecution was trying to argue that the Judas Priest
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record had caused these two young men to to do that.
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And the case got thrown out. It was rejected, but it did put
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into the public consciousness the idea that there could be bat
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masked messages in recordings, and there absolutely are.
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My researchers thrown this up. So there are bat mask messages
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which are put in deliberately by the artist, by the producers.
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They know what they're doing. They've specifically created and
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placed that message. But there are also bat mask
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messages which find their way into recordings without
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necessarily the conscious knowledge of the artist or
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producers. This is where we start to get
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into esoteric sort of supernatural realms.
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And it's absolutely a thing. You know, I've been researching
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it for years and totally this goes on.
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But what does make me laugh is all these heavy rock groups are
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associated with the Satanic Panic and, and, you know, really
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bad music and church folk. You know, Christians condemn all
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this stuff and say it's the work of the devil and stuff.
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But if you look at the output of many of these pop princesses of
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recent years, Miley Cyrus, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Britney
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Spears, Taylor Swift, and you examine their videos, Rihanna,
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Beyoncé, these are way more satanic than ever.
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Have any heavy rock grip from the 1970s if you know what
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you're looking for. I was talking earlier about
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visuals, icons and motifs and you find stuff everywhere in the
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videos by those artists I've just mentioned, which are
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heavily satanic and dark, occult and prima, Sonic and esoteric,
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all kinds of ancient signs and symbols.
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You have icons and motifs pertaining to satanic ritual
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abuse, trauma based mind control which is absolutely everywhere,
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and little calling cards of the so called Illuminati.
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You know the control system that we have presiding over organised
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society. They like to place their little
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signs and symbols everywhere, and it's an announcement to
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those with the eyes to see that this artist, if it pops up in a
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pop princesses video, is owned and controlled.
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So a great resource for this is the Vigilant Citizen website.
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I've learned so much from that vigilantcitizen.com very early
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on in my research. I used to spend a lot of time
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going through that website and the guy does a great job of
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breaking down all these signs and symbols and what they
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actually mean. So the average Rihanna or Miley
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Cyrus video is way more satanic in my view than anything from
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Black Sabbath or Judas Priest. That's the big joke.
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But it is, it is very obvious now when you look at stuff and
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you happen to see the symbolisms and you see the ritualistic
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stuff that they do. Katy Perry is very obvious.
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Well, not a whole lot of it is going to be them because all
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these artists are going to be MK Ultrait.
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All these artists are mind controlled, so many of them go
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through it from early childhood. If they're unfortunate enough to
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be born into the wrong family, they undergo all this stuff from
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a very early age because it's already known at that point that
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they're going to be famous and successful and they're going to
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get inserted into culture. This is what so many people
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won't accept, but there's so much evidence to show this is
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the case. And in my books, I provide all
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the citations and resources to show where I got this
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information from. But there are also those who
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might not be born into a family which is involved in
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generational satanic ritual abuse.
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And they might simply get to a point where they're about to
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make it big in the industry. And for whatever reason, they've
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been selected as an artist that the controllers think they can
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work with and use to exploit and manipulate the public.
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And they might undergo mind control at that point to keep
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them in line. So this is where they get
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subjected to horrific trauma and it causes the mind to dissociate
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from reality because it's the only way the mind has of dealing
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with the horrors that it's experiencing.
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So it causes the mind to shatter into different compartments and
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it tries to tuck away the trauma and the horror into these
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compartments that it's created. But the manipulators have
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realised that each of these compartments, they're called
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alters within mind control programming, can be given its
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own identity and it can be brought forward at will by the
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use of a trigger word or phrase or sound or pattern or colour.
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And that's the point where that altar takes over the personality
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of the individual. Great example we have.
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Probably the best one is the interview that Britney Spears
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did with Diane Sawyer many years ago, 2003, where in the middle
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of the interview, Sawyer seems to utter a mind control trigger
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phrase and Britney dissociates. She starts to go into one of
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these altars and she's behaving very strangely, starts to cry.
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And then she kind of pulls herself together and snaps back
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into the front altar. And this is what they do.
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This is why they have alter egos.
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Many years ago there was Nicki Minaj, the rapper who used to
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have this alter ego called Roman Zelanski and she used to become
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Roman on stage and she would transform into a male.
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Effectively. She said Roman is this gay male
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and he takes her over and he makes her do all kinds of things
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that she wouldn't normally do. And Beyoncé used to say this
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about her Sasha Fierce alter ego.
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She said, oh, there's so many things I wouldn't do, but Sasha
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Fierce takes over and controls me and and then I can just
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become her and do all this stuff.
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And this is classic indication of mind control.
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Altars taken over. Lady Gaga used to have an altar
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called Victor Calderon, which again, was a male.
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So she became a male. Many people think she is lad
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Gaga. Lots of debate on that.
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But the point The point is you have artists who quite openly
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say they've got these other personalities.
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What about Slim Shady? Eminem.
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Early on he became Slim Shady and Slim Shady is this guy that
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murders his baby mother and does drugs and all kinds of crazy
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stuff, Murder and mayhem. But then he becomes Marshall
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Mathers again, which is a his original personality.
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So there's a lot of it around when you know what you're
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looking for. Bono's got this alter ego called
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Mephisto, and on stage he puts on a pair of devil horns, so
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he's not even trying to hide it and just becomes like this
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devilish satanic figure. So this is all MK Ultra, which
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is everywhere in the industry, and it's the way artists are
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kept in line. Because an artist has undergone
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mind control and who can be skilfully handled by a
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programmer is more likely to stick to agendas and adhere to
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what's required of them than someone that's in control of
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their own mind and is fiercely creative and individual.
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They don't want that. They want artists that are
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absolutely under the thumb of those that control the industry.
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The thing is that I feel sorry for for some of them, like
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Britney Spears for example. I mean, she clearly is having
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some sort of tug of war internally.
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Yeah, well, I do as well. It's very easy to hate on these
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artists. Particularly.
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I used to find myself hating Nicki Minaj because of her
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output. You know the the foul language.
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And it's just awful. Yeah, and, and Cardi B is the
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same. She's like a reboot of Nicki
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Minaj. And these are aimed at young
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people. This is the thing.
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You know, at the time I had two young daughters and I realised
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that this kind of output is aimed at them, their age group,
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their demographic, you know, all these pop princesses and, and
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even rappers like Nicki Minaj and Cardi B, They're aimed at
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prepubescent girls effectively, you know, the fan bases, but
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target fanbase is probably like 9 to 15, something like that.
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And I used to hate the fact that Nicki Minaj was putting out all
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this disgusting depraved material.
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But then I came to realise that it's not actually her fault if
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she's been born into satanic ritual abuse and she's undergone
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all these horrors. Who knows what she's been
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through. Who knows what these people go
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through? The level of of trauma and
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horror. So we really should pity them
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and have some sympathy for them rather than hate on them.
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If you're going to hate on anyone, hate on the managers,
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hate on the executives that run these record companies, they're
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the ones that are pushing these agendas.
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They're the ones that are selecting these artists and
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dictating what they're going to be used for.
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So that's where to direct your scorn, if anywhere.
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Do you think everybody had Michael Jackson wrong back in
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the day? Well personally I do and I was
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thinking about him this morning because tomorrow is the
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anniversary of his reported death, 25th of June, which is
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anti Christmas as celebrated by Satanists.
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So whereas the rest of us celebrate Christmas on the 25th
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of December, and in the Northern Hemisphere, that's marking the
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symbolic death and rebirth of the sun at that time of year.
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So the sun reaches its lowest point as viewed on the horizon
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on the 21st going into the 22nd of December.
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And then it's said to symbolically die and it's in the
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tomb for three days. Where have I heard that before?
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And then on the morning of the third day, which is the dawn on
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the 25th of December, it rises and it's slowly, very gradually
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starts to rise a little bit more each day until it reaches its
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high point, it's apex at the summer solstice, which we've
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just passed. So we're celebrating the rebirth
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of the life giving properties of the sun.
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Satanists do everything in reverse.
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They take that which is inherent to nature and creation and turn
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it on its head. So they celebrate at the
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opposite time of year, which is the summer solstice, because at
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that point the sun has reached its high point in the sky, it's
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apex, and it's slowly starting to decline from that point on a
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little bit more each day all the way down to the 25th of
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December. It's the opposite for you guys
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in South Africa, of course. And so they're celebrating death
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and decay, which is what they're all about.
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And so it's interesting that on the 25th of June, we're told
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Michael Jackson suddenly passed away at the hands of his
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physician. And that happened to be the
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birthday of George Michael, who was a label mate of his on Sony.
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So both those artists went up against the paymasters, the
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overlords at the Sony Corporation, and tried to take
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them on in legal battles. Didn't end well for either of
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them. And then exactly 6 months later,
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from his birthday and from Michael Jackson's checkout day,
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George Michael dies in 2016, Christmas Day turns up dead last
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Christmas I gave you my heart. And he dies of heart failure on
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Christmas Day. So there's all kinds of
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synchromysticism there going on with the dates and the numbers.
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But with Michael Jackson, I personally feel that he is
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someone who would have been mind controlled from early childhood,
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put into it by his father, who wanted to make stars of all his
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children. And I think Joe Jackson,
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Michael's father, would have been approached by the industry
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early on. Reportedly he wanted to be a
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performer himself, but he was never able to make it.
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So I think what happened was he was made an offer whereby the
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industry said to him, we'll make you rich and successful through
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your kids. So you've got to make stars of
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your kids. They've got become performers.
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They're going to have to train rigidly, obsessively and become
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these great dancers, singers. And that would have been the
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point where they would have been put into probably MK Ultra to
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keep them in line and to make them great performers.
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This is something that happens as a result of the programming.
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It seems to turn them into like performing robots.
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They become the very best dancers, the very best singers,
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the very best actors. If you think of some of the most
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accomplished Hollywood actors, I'm sure a lot of those
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performances are coming through the trauma of of the MK Ultra.
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And in the case of actors, they're actually slipping into
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these altars. So people say somebody like
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Johnny Depp, for example, or Robert De Niro, they seem to
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become the characters they're portraying.
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This is something you hear very often.
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They change their appearance, they change their mannerisms.
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I think they're slipping into altars that have been prepared
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for them. But getting back to music and
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the Jackson family, I think that's what happened to all
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those kids early on. And Michael was selected as the
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most recognisable member of the family to become a solo star.
24:43
And of course, he became a major recording artist, shifting
24:47
millions and millions of units. But I think he reached a point
24:50
where his mind control programming was starting to wear
24:53
off and some of his inherent personality, humanity, was
24:59
starting to bleed through. And so he was starting to make
25:02
comments in public, which you can imagine the controllers
25:06
weren't too happy about. Yeah, it became a threat.
25:10
Yeah, exactly. They don't like that when
25:13
artists start to make statements off their own back from their
25:18
own minds, they become a threat and they have to be removed or
25:25
dissipated one way or another. I think that's what happened
25:28
with Bob Marley. People ask me about Bob Marley
25:30
all the time. I think Bob Marley was a
25:32
genuine, sincere artist, an activist, and he was putting out
25:37
meaningful message music which was really connecting with
25:39
people, and he became a threat. So he got taken out ultimately
25:43
by the CIA. We're told that he broke his toe
25:47
playing football and it went cancerous and spread through his
25:49
body, but there's evidence to show that the CIA actually
25:52
knocked him off. Also, John Lennon.
25:54
People argue with me all day on John Lennon, but I personally.
25:57
Feel Intel. Yeah, I think he had also become
26:00
a threat because of the nature of his music and his activism.
26:04
So he had to be removed. And with Michael Jackson, he was
26:07
starting to go the same way over an extended period, many years,
26:11
but he was making comments which wouldn't have gone down too
26:14
well. He spoke about how the history
26:15
books have been manipulated through his his story project.
26:20
You know, that's what that was all about.
26:22
And he spoke out about the industry, the true nature of it.
26:25
He went up against Sony. He described Tommy Mottola, the
26:29
one time CEO of Sony. So yeah, Michael criticised
26:35
Tommy Mottola, who was the one time husband of Mariah Carey and
26:38
I think probably mind control handler and he called him the
26:41
devil, didn't mince his words. And he described the Sony
26:44
Corporation as evil. And he said to people don't
26:48
believe everything you hear in the media because they
26:51
manipulate stuff and change stuff.
26:54
So I think they fired a couple of warning shots at him in the
26:59
form of those cases where he was alleged accused of, you know,
27:03
messing around with minors. And the first one, I think,
27:09
almost destroyed him, but he was able to make a comeback.
27:13
And then the second one that got sent his way was intended as a
27:17
very serious reminder of what they could do.
27:21
It was their way of saying, remember how powerful we are?
27:25
We can destroy you. You've got to stop saying what
27:29
you're saying, doing what you're doing.
27:31
You've got to start getting back in line.
27:33
So he was about to do that series of This Is It concerts
27:36
kicking off in Wembley in 2009. And then on the 25th of June, we
27:42
get the news that sadly, he died from an overdose of fentanyl
27:46
administered by Conrad Murray, his doctor, right?
27:50
And that's it. That's the end of Michael.
27:52
So people speculate for days. Of course, it's very murky
27:57
waters when you start to research this sort of material
27:59
because every time an artist passes away, there are going to
28:02
be accusations of them having faked their death.
28:07
And I think from looking at many examples, this does happen
28:10
sometimes. I think that's what happened
28:12
with Jim Morrison. I think that's what happened
28:15
with Elvis Presley. And it may be what happened with
28:18
Tupac and possibly David Bowie. But when it comes to Michael
28:22
Jackson, people point to this interview that was done by Larry
28:27
King of CNN the day after Michael is said to have died
28:32
with a guy named Dave. Dave, you familiar with him?
28:36
The name rings a bell, but I can't remember.
28:39
Well, his real name is said to be Dave Rothenberg, and he was
28:43
said to have been a burns victim.
28:45
So the story is his father was very abusive and he set him on
28:50
fire when he was a kid, and he suffered horrific burns, and he
28:54
had to have skin grafts and all kinds of surgery.
28:56
And so it changed his appearance.
28:58
And he looked like this melting plastic on his face, you know?
29:03
And Michael is said to have befriended him when he was a kid
29:08
because Michael liked children, not in that way, but he liked
29:11
the company of children. And then on this CNN show, they
29:16
wheeled out this guy, Dave Rothenberg, who wanted to be
29:19
known by the name Dave Dave. And he was giving tribute to his
29:22
friend Michael Jackson, who'd just passed.
29:24
And what so many people drew attention to is the fact that
29:28
Dave, Dave's voice sounded exactly like Michael Jackson's.
29:32
And he looked like a man under heavy disguise, like it was
29:35
prosthetic surgery. And so people are speculating on
29:39
whether that could actually have been Michael.
29:42
And it was like a goodbye message to the world for those
29:44
with the eyes to see. And he'd been allowed to
29:47
disappear off into obscurity. So I've got a few problems with
29:52
that. I don't know how that would have
29:54
worked, because if Michael had really pissed off the industry
29:57
overlords and become a threat, they're not going to have
30:00
allowed him to have faded off into a witness protection
30:04
programme. And you can only fake your death
30:06
successfully and fade away with the complicity of military
30:10
intelligence. There's no way you'd pull it off
30:12
without them being in on it. So, I don't know, I, I leaned
30:17
towards Michael actually dying when we're told he did as a
30:21
result of him having become such a threat, such a loose cannon,
30:25
such a an unknown variable that he just had to be removed.
30:31
And what made Michael's case an even tougher the one is that he
30:36
was born a black man and died a white woman.
30:42
It's a sad joke. On there, something went on
30:45
there, didn't it? In my.
30:47
The point is, yeah, the point is, is that that whole thing
30:50
also just made everything more difficult for him.
30:54
Yeah, I mean, there's all sorts of possibilities when it comes
30:57
to why he changed his appearance in that way.
31:00
So I've got a story in the new book which goes all the way back
31:04
to his filming of this Pepsi commercial in early 1984 when
31:09
his hair caught fire. So there was a a firework that
31:11
went off and it landed in his hair or, or some debris landed
31:15
in his hair and set it on fire and he suffered really bad
31:18
burns. So it's interesting, you know,
31:20
you've got the Dave Dave story involving burns.
31:23
And it was from that point forward that Michael's
31:25
appearance started to change slowly.
31:27
So I think he was having all kinds of surgery to correct the
31:31
damage that was done through that incident.
31:34
And it just got more and more radical.
31:37
Some people feel he was replaced.
31:40
I don't know. If you look at Michael Jackson
31:43
in his latter years where he's pale white and he's got straight
31:47
black hair. If you compare an image like
31:52
that with Michael Jackson from his off the wall era 1979, where
31:56
he's clearly fully a black man with dark skin and black hair,
32:03
there's no way anyone would look at that picture of Michael when
32:05
he's all pale and white and go, oh, that's Michael Jackson if
32:08
they hadn't been told that's Michael Jackson.
32:11
So we only accept that was Michael Jackson because the
32:14
media has constantly put him out there and said, oh, look, look
32:17
how his appearance is changing. He's getting paler and he's
32:19
changed his nose to look less like his father to sort of
32:22
distance himself from him. So who knows what happened
32:26
there? Like I say, it's murky waters
32:27
with this kind of research. It is possible they swapped him
32:30
out. I really don't know.
32:33
It's it's it's not an easy one to put your finger on.
32:36
And you have many researchers who claim to have all the
32:38
answers. I'm always suspicious of these
32:40
people who claim they've got it all clear cut and they've got it
32:43
all nailed and their theory on things is correct.
32:46
They say, oh, this happened and this happened, and that's false
32:50
and this is true. Nobody can be that sure.
32:53
If you weren't actually a part of that inner circle where these
32:55
events happened and you're looking in from the outside,
32:58
nobody can have that level of certainty.
33:02
So when people claim to have got it all figured out, that's ego
33:05
coming in. The point I was alluding to
33:08
earlier is that Michael suspect that something was wrong with
33:12
the industry and he wanted out and the whole world just
33:16
completely misunderstood him. And now we look back in
33:18
hindsight and we go, yeah, he was correct.
33:23
Yeah, exactly. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
33:27
And it's the same with Prince. You know, the story of Prince
33:31
very much echoes that of Michael Jackson.
33:33
There's so many parallels there. You know, Prince got into legal
33:37
battles with his record label, Warner Brothers, and he was
33:39
trying to expose some of their practises and withdraw himself
33:44
from their clutches in just the same way as Michael did with
33:47
Sony. And, you know, it didn't end
33:50
well for Prince, again, if we accept the official story, which
33:53
is that he died in an elevator, which is highly symbolic when
33:57
you get into occult realms because an elevator symbolises a
34:01
portal between this 3D physical reality and the spirit world.
34:07
And according to some, when the elevator is going down, that's
34:10
taking you down to hell, if, if you want that metaphor.
34:14
And then when it's sending, it's going to heaven to put a
34:17
religious slant on it. Prince himself made a comment
34:20
about the elevator, according to LA Reid, an industry executive
34:26
who was interviewed in the wake of Prince's death.
34:27
And he said that Prince had once said to him, do you know what an
34:31
elevator symbolises? And LA Reid said, no, what is
34:34
it? And Prince said, oh, it's a
34:35
portal between different worlds, different realms.
34:40
And in Let's Go Crazy, Prince's song, he says we're not going to
34:43
let the elevator bring us down. Words to that effect, he
34:46
mentions the elevator. And so highly symbolic that he
34:49
turned up dead in an elevator at the age of 57 on the 21st of
34:54
April 2016, the 90th birthday of the Queen of England.
34:59
Quite the coincidence. And so that's Prince gone,
35:03
Michael Jackson gone. There are two threats to the
35:05
industry gone. A third one would be George
35:08
Michael, who was also on the Sony record label, like Michael
35:13
Jackson. And just like Michael Jackson
35:15
and Prince, George Michael became highly critical of the
35:18
industry and it's practises and the Sony Corporation.
35:21
And I've actually got a lot of respect in hindsight for George
35:24
Michael. I never used to enjoy his music.
35:27
Oh WAM was amazing. Yeah, yeah, WAM was better.
35:31
Wam's music was was bright and colourful and and great for the
35:35
80s. But I never really liked George
35:37
Michael's solo material. I thought it's quite
35:39
pretentious. But I've really come to respect
35:42
him as an individual because there was an episode of the BB
35:47
CS hard talk that he did with Tim Sebastian in 2003.
35:52
And it was in the wake of Bush and Blair launching their
35:56
incursions into Iraq, the so called second Gulf War.
36:01
And George Michael had been highly critical of Bush and
36:04
Blair. He had a single chord, I think
36:07
it was called Wag the Dog, where he got cartoon depictions of
36:11
Bush and Blair in very unflattering positions.
36:14
And George Michael curated this video because he didn't like
36:17
their policies when it came to war mongering.
36:20
So in this episode he's asked about that and he displays a
36:24
high level of knowledge and a high level of personal
36:27
integrity, and he was bringing up subjects that no other artist
36:33
was. I like to think that if George
36:38
Michael had been around during the COVID era, he would have had
36:42
a thing or two to say about it. I think he probably would about
36:45
the how the whole thing was a big bloody scam, but he was
36:48
obviously neutralised way before that.
36:51
And it would have been interesting to hear what Prince
36:53
would have had to say about COVID as well.
36:55
I often wonder about this John Lennon, if he'd still been
36:58
around, what would he have said? Would he have gone along with it
37:00
all or would he have felt compelled to speak out?
37:02
Bob Marley, I think these artists would have spoken out.
37:05
So with George Michael I, I do now respect him as a man and he
37:10
took part in a great sketch with Ricky Gervais where he was just
37:14
lampooning himself, just self effacing.
37:17
And it's great to see people do that because there's obviously
37:20
no ego there, no pretentiousness.
37:21
They're prepared to send themselves up and it's just a
37:25
shame that all these great artists get taken out and we get
37:29
left with all the shit ones, the boring ones, the compliant ones,
37:34
all the interesting ones go, you know, the very best music from
37:37
over the decades is from deceased artists.
37:40
That's the sad factor there. A lot of this conversation
37:44
though is around mind control and artists themselves being
37:49
controlled and manipulated. But it does expand into more
37:54
dangerous territory. I mean, look what's going on now
37:56
with P Diddy. Yeah, well, it is dangerous in
38:01
terms of the things he's being accused of.
38:03
So he's currently on trial and officially it's for racketeering
38:07
and child sex trafficking, which is bad enough.
38:10
But on top of that, there have been accusations for years that
38:16
he's been running Jeffrey Epstein style blackmail
38:19
operations through his various mansion parties, free coughs, as
38:24
they're called, sex orgies. And this is where the rich and
38:28
the famous and the powerful celebrities, business leaders,
38:31
politicians are said to attend these parties just as they did
38:36
on Epstein Island. And they're curated by Diddy and
38:41
all kinds of stuff goes on. You don't even want to imagine
38:44
what goes on. You know, it involves sex
38:47
slaves, women that have been drugged.
38:48
It involves minors, and reportedly many of these famous
38:54
people that whose names we're going to know get up to all this
38:57
stuff at these parties and it gets filmed.
39:02
And that footage gets used as blackmail leverage to make sure
39:06
they stay in line and they don't stray from the agenda that's
39:10
been set out for them. And if they do, they're reminded
39:13
that this footage exists and that it can be made public at
39:16
any time, and that's their career destroyed.
39:20
So this stuff is not making it into the court case, but there
39:24
have been multiple accusations that Diddy has been running this
39:27
sort of operation. And I think he would have
39:30
imagined that he was untouchable.
39:34
I think when they arrested him at the end of 2024 and they
39:38
stuck him in the Metropolitan Detention Centre in Brooklyn,
39:40
reportedly New York's worst gaol, he probably couldn't
39:44
believe what was happening to him because I'm sure he would
39:47
have thought he was untouchable. He could do anything he wanted
39:49
because he was so blatant and so flagrant in his interviews and
39:53
his videos. There's a video of him, you've
39:56
probably seen it with Justin Bieber.
39:58
You know, he took Justin Bieber under his wing and he's got this
40:01
video where he says we're going to go crazy.
40:03
I've got custody, custody of Justin for the weekend.
40:08
And it's going to be every 15 year old's dream.
40:09
We're going to do all kinds of crazy stuff that I can't really
40:11
talk about on video. What does that mean?
40:14
You know, and he's being open about it, about the fact that he
40:18
can't talk about it and. Earlier, he had lived with
40:21
Usher, a young Usher. The singer had lived with Diddy
40:26
when he was a miner. What's that all about?
40:28
Moved in with him. And he's open about that as
40:31
well. And there's a video where Diddy
40:34
has sat with his mother, Janice Combs, and they're both sharing
40:40
an IV drip. And Diddy says, oh, you know,
40:44
we, we went a bit crazy at the party last night.
40:46
So we're just rehydrating. What does that mean with his
40:50
mother? And his mother looks like,
40:52
frankly, a hooker. She's got her hair and nails
40:55
done and stuff, and she's in this revealing outfit, and it's
40:59
like Diddy's trying to pimp her out.
41:00
He said, this is my mom, you know, she's a beautiful woman.
41:02
She's single. Like he's trying to pimp out his
41:05
own mother. So he was quite blatant about a
41:08
lot of this stuff, which is why I think he thought he was
41:10
untouchable. And they probably allowed him to
41:13
think he was untouchable, but they came for him in the end for
41:16
whatever reason. Maybe they thought he was too
41:18
much for liability. Maybe they just wanted to take
41:22
the heat off of some other areas of where things were going on,
41:26
and they wanted to direct attention over to what Diddy had
41:28
been accused of. And they're just throwing him
41:31
under the bus now. And this is what happens when
41:34
you get into bed with psychopaths and Satanists.
41:38
Don't be surprised if they turn on you because they're
41:41
psychopaths and Satanists. It's what they do.
41:44
What about R Kelly? You know, a few years before did
41:47
he? We got all these stories of R
41:49
Kelly being involved in similar activities, running a sort of
41:53
mind control sex cult with kept women.
41:56
And they went for him as well. He got away with it for many
41:58
years, ran that operation for a long time, but in the end they
42:03
went for him and he's in gaol. Reportedly he's just overdosed
42:07
in gaol somehow and he's in prison hospital.
42:10
So if you're not from one of these important bloodline
42:15
families, which is a big part of things, if you're born into one
42:18
of these generational families, then you can have a position
42:23
made available for you. You can have a facilitated
42:25
career. But if you somehow come into the
42:28
industry from elsewhere outside of one of these families, and
42:32
you somehow sort of work your way up with a bit of assistance,
42:34
will they select you as a chosen one?
42:37
Never be surprised if they turn on you, because that's what they
42:40
do. And right now, Jay-Z is probably
42:44
spending a lot of time in the bathroom.
42:48
Have you heard Kanye's *** Hail Hitler?
42:51
What do you make of that? And what do you make of Kanye?
42:56
I think they are doing similar things to him to what they did
43:01
with Michael Jackson. They're trying to smear his
43:05
image and his name. And I think this is because
43:08
Kanye is a very obvious candidate for MK Ultra mind
43:12
control. Over the years he's displayed
43:14
many traits of having undergone this.
43:16
He's displayed many traits of the programme is starting to
43:19
break down and his real self starting to come through.
43:23
And many of the so called incoherent rants that he's made
43:28
publicly, the mainstream media has branded him as crazy and
43:33
outspoken and braggadocious and all this.
43:35
But he was actually speaking a lot of truth and I think he was
43:39
trying to get the truth out there.
43:40
And often after one of these rants, he disappears from the
43:44
public eye for some time. And this smacks of him being
43:48
sent back to the MK Ultra lab to have his programming topped up.
43:53
I think in recent times, the waters have been muddied by the
43:56
fact that they've been using doubles.
43:58
It's not Kanye. So you'll see what is alleged to
44:01
be Kanye in public doing an interview.
44:04
There's that one where he's in a car and he's he's got the window
44:07
wound down and he's talking to some reporter through the window
44:09
of his car. Have you seen that one from
44:11
about? Three or four years ago.
44:14
Yeah, and he's saying that Hollywood and the entertainment
44:18
industry sacrifices family members, which is a pretty
44:23
outrageous statement, but it's not Kanye.
44:26
That's not him. I'm not saying that they've got
44:28
rid of him because the real Kanye seems to reappear from
44:31
time to time, but they're they're using doubles.
44:34
And I think they are systematically trying to destroy
44:38
his public image and his credibility through things like
44:42
this Nazi business. And you know, if you think about
44:46
some of the most extreme things that an artist can say and do to
44:51
make the public turn on them and hate them, then Kanye's been
44:54
doing all of that. But is it really him?
44:57
Is it him being directed to do so in a mind controlled state?
45:01
Or is it double S replacements that they're using to literally
45:04
put words into his mouth? So he's a very complex
45:08
character, not easy to work out what's going on there.
45:13
I do suspect that they would like to have taken him out.
45:16
They would like to have overdosed him or suicided him,
45:20
but it would be just too obvious.
45:23
If something happened to him now, it would be too obvious
45:27
that they took him out. So sometimes they they can't do
45:31
that, so they have to destroy them instead, just destroy their
45:34
character. I remember in the early 2000s I
45:41
went to a Prodigy show and it was phenomenal.
45:45
Firstly, I think Prodigy are amazing, or they were amazing in
45:49
terms of the music production. But I remember during the gig
45:56
they had this long sort of section of repetitive music for
46:03
about 15 minutes where it was just the same thing, looping,
46:08
and there was this strong smell of marijuana in the air.
46:11
So people were clearly smoking. Yeah, that puts me in mind of
46:15
that infamous Travis Scott concert at Astro World a few
46:20
years ago where a bunch of young people died and observers.
46:26
Researchers have suggested it was some sort of sacrificial
46:30
ritual. But Travis Scott was behaving
46:32
very strangely at that event. He was up on some sort of plinth
46:36
or podium. And while this skirmish was
46:39
going on, which killed these young people, he appeared to go
46:43
into a trance. Like, his eyes glazed over.
46:46
And he was just rattling off this mantra, which is like sort
46:50
of speaking in tongues, just this horrific nonsense sound,
46:56
almost as if he'd been taken over by demonic entities and he
47:00
was channelling them. So I think they were some very
47:03
dark elements to that event. And also U2 did a big concert at
47:09
the the Dome. What's the name of it?
47:12
Is it called the Dome in Las Vegas?
47:14
This new venue that's opened there and it is a huge Dome and
47:18
it's got a big eye on the top of it, like an all seeing eye.
47:22
So it's like an announcement. This is a an owned venue and
47:27
I've got some footage of a show that they did where I think it's
47:30
before they came on, they just put out a whole load of
47:33
subliminal messages. They're being flashed up on the
47:36
screen in huge lettering for split seconds at a time.
47:39
So it's going straight into the subconscious mind, which soaks
47:42
everything up like a sponge that it sees and experiences.
47:45
And it was all kinds of messages, just phrases and
47:47
words. Well, this repetitive music was
47:50
playing. So they're messing with the the
47:55
mind state of the the audience. The audience are being used as
47:58
experimental Lab Rats and Guinea pigs.
48:00
They think they're just going to a concert to hear some great
48:03
music, but they're actually being manipulated in all kinds
48:07
of very deep psychological ways. And it's probably the same at
48:13
that event that you just mentioned by The Prodigy, who
48:17
must have been selected and elevated in their career because
48:21
there were lots of acts that emerged at the start of the rave
48:24
era. There's only a few that got to
48:26
the level of the Prodigy. So you know.
48:29
But they were very good. Right.
48:32
Well, if if that's your musical bag, yeah, I I like some of
48:38
their stuff a lot. A lot of it was too hardcore for
48:40
me. I didn't really like that
48:42
completely hardcore rave stuff. I liked it more soulful, I
48:45
guess. But the Prodigy were, yeah, a,
48:49
a, a group that were placed there.
48:53
Clearly I'm I'm my mind goes to what happened to Keith Flint
48:58
from that group. Yes, right.
49:00
Yes, yes, yes, just a few years ago.
49:02
Yeah. So Keith Flint turned up dead
49:04
very suddenly in suspicious circumstances.
49:07
This happens a lot in the industry.
49:10
And a consistent factor is that I can't remember what they said
49:14
about Keith. Was it that he took his own life
49:17
or was that an overdose? I can't remember.
49:18
Get confused sometimes with all these.
49:21
It was one or the other. Anyway, the night before he
49:24
turned up dead, he was out dining and socialising with
49:28
friends and he was said to be in great spirits, so he didn't come
49:32
across as somebody that was tired of life or was doing
49:36
copious amounts of drugs. And we hear this so often.
49:39
Dolores O'riordan of the Cranberries turned up dead in a
49:43
bathtub in the Hilton Hotel, Park Lane, London, in early
49:47
2018, said to be an overdose, and she also had been out with
49:53
friends. She'd been making plans for the
49:55
future. She was working on a new album
49:57
project and some live shows and stuff.
50:00
So she didn't strike you as somebody that was tired of life.
50:03
Same thing. With yeah, yeah.
50:06
And that girl, what's her name now?
50:08
They tried to take me to rehab and I said no, no, no.
50:10
Amy Winehouse. Yes.
50:13
Amy Winehouse same way said to have overdosed, even though
50:16
friends and family say that she'd been clean for a long
50:19
time. Age 27.
50:21
Aged 27, part of the 27 Club. And it's often very vague when
50:25
they tell you an artist has passed away.
50:27
They don't often go into the fine detail of what killed them.
50:31
They just intimate or imply that it was some sort of overdose.
50:37
But it's it's never very clear. I mean, what did Jim Morrison
50:40
die of? If you, if you ask the average
50:42
person, oh, what did Jim Morrison die of?
50:44
They'll probably say, oh, some sort of overdose, but they won't
50:46
know exactly what. Whitney Houston, you know, what
50:48
did she die of? It's some sort of overdose, but
50:51
we don't know what. And they just seem to rely on
50:56
the public's perception of the music business as being full of
51:00
drugs and alcohol and crazy lifestyles.
51:04
So when an artist turns up dead, most people just chalk it up as
51:08
rock'n'roll lifestyle. You know, these these music
51:11
artists, what are they like? And they just forget it.
51:14
And I've often sort of quipped that if the same amount of
51:18
plumbers turned up dead as musicians do, people would be
51:23
saying, what the hell is going on, man?
51:26
Why are all these plumbers dying?
51:28
There's plumbers dying everywhere.
51:30
This needs investigating. What's happening.
51:32
All these plumbers are dying, but nobody says that about
51:35
musicians. They just get away with it with
51:37
musicians, right? Jimi Hendrix also died at age
51:44
27. Well, so many artists did.
51:48
The 27 Club is this large collective of musicians who
51:53
turned up dead at the age of 27. It's always suspicious
51:55
circumstances. There's Brian Jones of The
51:58
Rolling Stones, 27, drowned in his swimming pool in the grounds
52:05
of his cottage in Sussex in 1969, and then two years to the
52:11
day after that. That was 3rd of July 1969.
52:14
Two years to the day after that, 3rd of July 1971, is when Jim
52:18
Morrison supposedly turned up dead in his bathtub in his Paris
52:21
apartment, and he was age 27. In 1970, you had Jimi Hendrix
52:27
turned up dead at the age of 27, loosely intimated that he'd
52:31
choked on some barbiturates and drowned in his own vomit.
52:35
But what actually happened is Jimi Hendrix was taken out at
52:38
the hands of his manager, Michael Jeffrey, who was a
52:41
British military intelligence operative masquerading as a
52:45
music industry manager. And Janis Joplin died just a a
52:52
few weeks after Jimi Hendrix in October of 1970.
52:56
She was 20. Was that a ham sandwich?
52:58
Now that was Mamacas Elliot. Sorry, wrong, wrong one.
53:02
Mamacas was 34, but Janis Joplin was 27, and that's chalked up as
53:08
a heroin overdose. And then you've got Amy
53:11
Winehouse. She was 27.
53:12
Kurt Cobain said to have shot himself.
53:15
He was 27. Robert Johnson, the Blues
53:18
musician going all the way back to the 1930s, he was 27.
53:22
And always suspicious circumstances.
53:24
I mean it's it's always going to be suspicious when a 27 year old
53:28
dies because 27 is not a natural age to die at.
53:34
Mark, what's the moral of the story?
53:35
I mean, we could be out all day chatting about this stuff.
53:38
It's giving you the. Abridged versions of all of
53:41
these, Believe me, because if I went into all versions, we'd be
53:44
here for about 10 hours. Well, exactly So what is the
53:47
moral of the story? I would say people need to be
53:54
very consciously aware that music, entertainment, popular
53:58
culture is not there for their fun and enjoyment.
54:03
They think it is. And it can be a lot of fun and
54:06
very enjoyable to listen to music, watch movies, watch TV
54:10
shows. But the truth of the matter is
54:13
that these vehicles are there to mind control people and get them
54:18
thinking and behaving in certain ways in line with other social
54:23
and engineering agendas which operate in an organised society.
54:28
So, for example, some some agendas we've got running right
54:33
now include climate change, that whole scam.
54:36
And when you look back at Hollywood movies of recent
54:39
years, you'll find the ideas of climate change and this big
54:43
threat to humanity have been very slyly placed into the
54:47
narrative of many of these films and TV shows.
54:50
We've got the transhumanist agenda, the merging of humanity
54:54
and technology. And for decades now, films and
54:57
music videos also have been presenting ideas of robots,
55:01
androids, digital, electronic ways of doing things, technology
55:06
being the future. These ideas have been slow
55:08
dripped into the consciousness of the general public through
55:12
entertainment, so that when these things start to become a
55:15
reality in people's lives, they're going to be much more
55:18
readily accepted because there's already a familiarity with these
55:22
ideas, with these themes through what people have soaked up
55:26
through entertainment, popular culture.
55:30
There's also the predictive programming element, which is
55:33
where aspects of an event which is known to be coming are placed
55:38
into films, TV shows, music videos and such in the years and
55:41
decades leading up to it. So 911 is a great example.
55:45
Before COVID came along, that was the best example.
55:47
We had so many music videos and TV shows and films depicting
55:53
aspects of what happened on September 11th, 2001, which
55:57
would have been soaked up into the consciousness of the viewing
55:59
public. So people need to be very
56:01
consciously aware of what these industries are used for.
56:05
And once you are consciously aware, the magic tricks and the
56:09
spells and the clever psychological trickery is no
56:14
longer going to have the same effect on you, because now it's
56:17
out of the subconscious mind and now you know what you're dealing
56:19
with. And at this point, if you
56:22
choose, you can continue to watch movies and TV shows and
56:25
listen to music. I have many people who write to
56:28
me and they say, Mark, I've looked at your work and the work
56:32
of other researchers, and I can no longer stand to listen to
56:35
these major artists, these household names, and I can no
56:38
longer stand to watch mainstream Hollywood movies because all I
56:41
see is the programming. And I respect that.
56:43
If that's a decision that people make, then I totally get why
56:47
they would choose that stance. But I personally can't live
56:53
without music and I personally enjoy watching films.
56:57
And I don't feel that these things are affecting me anymore
57:00
because now I'm aware of what they're there for and I can spot
57:05
the agendas. I can be watching a movie and I
57:07
might be enjoying the narrative on a on a surface level, but I
57:10
can spot the programming. I know why they've put that
57:13
particular line in or there's this character's undertaking
57:16
these behaviours. You know, it just becomes
57:19
obvious to you when you know what you're looking at.
57:21
So the takeaway from all this, I would say is just be very aware
57:25
of what these vehicles are really used for and know that
57:31
you're dealing with some very dark and dangerous stuff going
57:34
on behind the scenes. It pays to be aware of that if
57:38
you're a parent, it pays to talk to your children about this when
57:42
they're of an age where they can handle it and make them aware of
57:47
things like symbolism and what they're putting into so called
57:50
music now, which, you know, a lot of the output now is
57:53
horrific to my ears, especially with auto tune and all these
57:57
production methods, digital, electronic, just horrible,
58:00
unnatural. But talk to your children about
58:03
it and get some conversations going in that age group.
58:07
Because one thing I've noticed is my work goes down very well
58:12
with a certain demographic, and it tends to be 50 to 70 year
58:17
olds, but I have a lot of trouble connecting with people
58:22
under 40. They just don't seem to.
58:25
They don't come to my talks, they don't engage with me.
58:29
Younger people are the ones that are in the crosshairs of the
58:32
social engineers. They're the ones they go in
58:34
after, not the 50 to 70 year olds.
58:37
So it's very important this information gets circulated
58:40
among younger age groups. And so I'd love to see more
58:44
young people, teenagers, having discussions of this nature,
58:48
getting hold of this information, this material, and
58:51
talking to their friends, their groups about it and getting
58:55
awareness within that demographic of occult symbolism
58:59
and programming and social engineering agendas and such.
59:04
That's the real challenge, getting through to younger
59:06
people. So I think we can all play a
59:07
role in that. So if you're someone that
59:10
accepts all of this and you know that it's real and you've got a
59:14
way of getting through to younger people, if you've got
59:15
children or grandchildren, get some conversations going in that
59:19
age group because that's where it's really needed.
59:23
Mark, how can I follow your work?
59:26
My main website is DJ markdevlin.com so there's links
59:30
from there to all my other stuff.
59:32
I've got a YouTube channel, it's my 4th, just about hanging on in
59:36
there. My books are available on
59:39
Amazon, so I can mail out personal signed copies of my
59:43
books, but I tend to only do that within Europe because if I
59:47
try to send them further afield, America, Australia, Africa, they
59:52
just got missing. They get seized by customs and
59:56
it's just such a ball ache that I generally say to people in
59:59
that part of the world, those parts of the world get the books
1:00:02
from Amazon. It's just easier.
1:00:04
So you'll find all my books there.
1:00:05
Musical Truth, volumes 1-2 and three.
1:00:08
I've just brought out a fourth volume, which is this one.
1:00:11
No one's Dad's a Plumber. So that's the title of it, and
1:00:15
that one is now available. And there's audio book versions
1:00:18
of the first three Musical Truths.
1:00:21
And I've yet to do the audio book version of that, but I'll
1:00:23
be doing that by the end of the year.
1:00:25
And so, yeah, many podcasts out there.
1:00:28
I've done so many podcasts, videos, presentations.
1:00:32
But if you go to djmarkdevlin.com, you'll find it
1:00:34
all from there. Mark Devlin, thank you for
1:00:38
joining me in the trenches. No worries man, great show.