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#388 We Don't TOON OUT the Same with Sloppy Bunny Toons · We Don't Smoke the Same

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  Close to the mic. What up? And welcome back to another episode of
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  that We Don't Smoke the Same podcast. Thank you so much everybody for tuning
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  in and being patient about well just overall waiting, you know what I mean,
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  just waiting for this to happen. Sorry, we started a little bit
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  later than usual sometimes we got stuff to take care of. And mind you
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  this, I didn't post a flyer uh too late, because man, dude,
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  I was You guys do not even want me to get into the story
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  of like why I didn't have a phone for like hours and the amount of
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  bullshit that I had to endure before uh you know, like literally everything happened.
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  But XG is down there getting his weed from his dealer or something like
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  that. But yeah, but what is it? But I what is it?
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  I will and we will give Oh wait, he's made it back in
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  time for the for the welcoming because we're all already live xaber, we start
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  on time here. Just let you know what's what's up? What's up?
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  Man? How we doing? Guys? Put the cat noise for him?
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  Yeah, thank you, But you can put the headphones out of you yeah,
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  yep. Yeah. Also a big shout out to Hanchol for the face
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  painting. As usual, we're in theme, but thank you x G for
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  coming back and joining us. I'm actually excited about this because I've always loved
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  the animation and everything that stands for. I feel like it's the ultimate form
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  of expression whenever you got to something deep to say, or if you just
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  want to be, you just want to be, like, just keep that
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  innocence and just like make things that make people happy. Like animation really always
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  brings a lot of happiness. And I ran into this guy. I didn't
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  writ into him personally, but I knew of him through Philippe's podcasts, you
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  know, because I've seen Philippe's artwork. You're pretty much the main logo,
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  right, like, yeah, the main logo. So let's give it up
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  for the one and only sloppy bunny tunes. Everybody, what's going on with
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  you? Man? Thank you for joining us all the way from Australia.
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  Yeah, all the way from Australia. That's wild, damn. Yeah yeah
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  yeah, I just yesterday, so I still been jet lagged. So sorry
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  if I'm a little bit uh slow, I'm gonna try to speed out.
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  How far? How? What is it help? Like? Was that?
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  Is that a crazy fight? Yeah? The fourteen now is not as bad
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  as just the time difference, because like the flight itself was fine. I
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  slept and just entertained myself. All right. The jet lag is super real,
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  like not like not for nothing, still not all right, the jet
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  lag is super real. I know that. I experienced it firsthand when I
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  went to Japan, and it was just crazy, like I mean, it
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  was. I hated it. It took me two days to get adjusted.
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  What did you go, Tokyo, I'm going. I'm going to Japan in
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  about a month and a half. Oh nice, I'm going back in late
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  February. I just yeah, I fell in love with it and I just
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  can't get enough of it. It feels nice to be safe in the street,
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  you know. Yeah, I don't know. I felt safe here outside
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  for ten minutes. Yeah, for ten minutes. Bro, you didn't Yeah,
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  you didn't have none of the no to the cockroaches approach you and try
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  to rob you? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, what is it? Joining
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  us running the boards is the one and only ray Shout out to Morning Shot
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  Films the Morning Real Podcast. Thank you for pulling up and then making it
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  happen. Also, joining us is the one and only Toppy Ao Toppy what
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  up Yo? What up? Everybody? We welcome back and thank you so
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  much for this candy fumes. I actually wanted to wait to smoke this on
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  the the We Don't Smoke the same podcast. It's something new, I'm you
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  know. Yeah, You're always working, working and working on something, working
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  on something. You always working on different stuff. Now my question is how
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  did how long have you been doing animation for? Because that's like number one,
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  Like you could tell the quality of what you produce is grade A,
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  you know what I mean, Like you could tell it's like you have all
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  the all the tools. This is something that you do is a profession,
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  Like you're not just like just doing it, like you know what I mean.
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  I feel like you could tell that you've got some experience drawing, Like
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  how long have you been up an animator for? Well, the initial intention
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  was just to do comic books. So I started doing comic books back in
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  the late nineties when I was nineteen and I was just doing indie press stuff.
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  And then Disney had in house training in Australia. They had a studio
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  there and I applied for it and a year of forwards and backwards. I
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  finally got to start there. And yeah, I wasn't a passionate about Disney
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  or animation at the time. Was just the only full time gig going on.
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  They trained you, yea. They trained you for six months at the
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  time. So you're learning how to draw the mouse. You're learning how to
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  draw. I could draw, you draw a certain level. It's just the
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  animation just so they're really teaching it more of you, just making how to
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  make things move. So I was actually an assistant animator, so you do
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  clean up. So the animator does all the rough stuff and then I would
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  just draw the clean lines above it, like so like I don't think he's
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  on. No, So I took a couple of class of animation. So
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  no, it sounds fun and interesting to find out there's twenty frames per second
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  time and it has to be fucking technically drawn twenty four times to make one
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  second twenty four times six times sixty Yeah adds up. Yeah, yeah,
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  yeah, No, like the Philippe videos that I do. Yeah, they
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  took me about I think the fastest I did one was like five six weeks
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  and during COVID. During COVID, I was because it was like a weird
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  transition because the original plan was I was always going to move to la That
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  was my original plan. I was living in Asia for over ten years,
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  and I told my partner, we need to live someplace like where Asia.
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  I was living in Shanghai mostly, but I also lived in Busan, Korea,
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  and last city was in Hong Kong. Oh wow, man, that's
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  where. Do you speak Chinese the way the Indian? Oh damn. Yeah,
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  that's because I'm like, you know, it's like Asian cultures is like
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  you kind of have to get with it or get left behind, you know.
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  Well, to be honest, like when I was there, it was,
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  you know, it is very much white privilege. When I was there,
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  they doors opened. What don't mean, but it's it's easy to accommodate.
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  It's easier for them to well this was. This stopped pretty much a
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  couple of years after. But when I first got there, I went with
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  no plans, so I was just teaching English for a bit. I was
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  teaching English in Korea because I was the animation scene was dead. But when
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  I went to China, people were like, oh, you're not They were
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  like, you know, but yeah, no, when I people were like,
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  oh, you're not an English teacher, you should work in animation,
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  and so I was like yeah, cool. So I was doing covers for
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  magazines and stuff, and eventually I got back to work in Shanghai. Was
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  that was that like anime though? When you were learning out there or like
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  what kind of like cartoons? Was that? No? Well, my first
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  job was I was working on this farm game, which is like I was
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  doing game and stuff, so it was it's its own thing. It's not
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  anime like when I had. I did have a TV show there and that
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  was asked to be The hired me specifically to make it look more western.
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  Oh so they want to do like the yes. Yeah, so I was
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  working with Chinese people who loved anime didn't want to do Western stuff. Yeah,
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  And so we got this show that looked kind of a hotchpotge between Cartoon
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  Network and Chinese people who like anime. But that's all right. I was
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  happy with the show. The animation game is like really big and like like
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  I guess like the Asian country strew bro because like when you look when when
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  you walk down like Aqubata and ship, like you looked at you looked at
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  all those all the just an endless amount of man good comics and just all
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  this stuff. And I'm like they love that kind of ship, bro,
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  Like, did you go further? You know that's the first floor. Oh
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  yeah, I went to the then you go to the apple level. Yes,
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  anime anymore, it's no, it's I bought them. Yeah, that's
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  where I bought you the flesh Like oh, also it's anime. It's in
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  the anime's first floor. Then it's like Pokemon and cards. Then it's like
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  dildo's and like hen type things, and then it's like it goes like weirder
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  ship even buy uh it's funny, like I went, I was just walking
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  around and see how crazy it'll get. At the top four, they were
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  selling BB guns guns Yeah yeah, and they were like looked more like real
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  guns. Yeah yeah because those Yeah, it's so hard to get like a
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  real gun. Sounds like hot topic times like one hundred or like or who's
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  the other spencers spend Spencer's like times twenty No, no, not fucking rage.
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  You said, how long have you been living in Australia. I've been
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  back now for three years. So we were there actually, like we we
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  left because I was living right where the Hong Kong riots were, and so
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  I had police buses at my door all the time when I left the house,
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  and the rioters getting changed behind my buildings. So there was like all
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  of these clashes and stuff. I'm crazy were those riots. It was weird
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  because none of the people that were fighting are people who don't normally fight.
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  But just imagine like all those imagine like a bunch of nerves just being really
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  young. Because like there was like I was, I was having a drink
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  with this Northern Irish dude and he was like just laughing at him, saying,
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  that's all how you fight. That's the first Northern Irish. But that's
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  so funny because I can hear that from Irish because that's not how you fight.
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  It starts fighting himself like this is how you fight. But I'm even
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  a bigger pussy than them. Then I was like, yeah, we we're
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  going to Australia because we need to leave SAP. So you left right before
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  COVID, Yeah, we left try before. But we had to wait a
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  little because I had cats had to bring in the like street cats, and
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  so we had to wait six months for them to come to Australia. So
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  we were just waiting and then it's brutal that process hunt like to get them,
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  like because you're away from them for so long. Well we were okay
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  because I was we stayed. I stayed with my cat, so you just
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  give him an injection and then you just have to It's just the application process.
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  Yeah, it takes a long while, but yeah, because they're Chinese
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  cat. So one of the reasons we went to Hong Kong was like,
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  if anything happened, it's easier to come back to Australia from Hong Kong because
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  from China the cat couldn't come to Australia at all, so it had have
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  to be someplace for six months. That's nuts, man, the rules between
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  the cat the cats. Because I thought about bringing a cat from Japan back.
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  Nah, it was a quite really, it was quite the process because
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  I wanted a Japanese cat. Yeah, well I wanted you to bring it
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  in here like like this. They were like, you're not going to get
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  it for like months, and I'm like, but I want them like next
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  week, dude. Really, Like that's weird because like usually people taking like
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  one of the options is to send your cat to the US for six months
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  and have somebody minded for you and then they come back to Australia. Oh
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  what, I didn't know that, so uh yeah, and I had with
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  Yeah. Just the thing was just China was weird. Everywhere else was like
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  if any like they rank countries when you bring your pets, and China wasn't
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  ranked as high as other countries. But yeah, like China's like we might
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  eat these foods. They're like no, no, that one is good.
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  It's more fait. Yeah. But the parting was only ten days, so
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  that was fine. All right, that's that's that's nastard. It's just I
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  guess the application process. How did you end up working like linking up with
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  Philippe though, well, probably everything all my l A adventures in the last
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  year, it all goes down to he straight hi, okay, yeah,
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  I know. Yeah. Sorry. So when he before, he's like a
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  perfect Mexican for like TV. Yeah, he's like, I take care of
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  my parents, I don't curse. He's like, you know, he's got
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  a girls, don'tumble, he doesn't do drug perfect I never did drugs.
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  Yeah. Yeah, but he's also a siper kind though. He's like,
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  yeah, he's like off camera too. Yeah, yeah, I know him
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  very well. Like that's what it's. It's like it's like we know that.
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  Like I'm like, hey, bro, like we we know why you're
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  on TV bro, Like you know what I mean. It's like you're just
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  like perfect for the fucking network. I get it. I can see it,
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  you know. Yeah. But yeah, So a few years back before
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  he was before he had a blue check mark on his Instagram, he followed
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  me randomly when I got on Instagram, so and then like I saw him
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  and then I was like, the dude's got a funny face. So I
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  drew just randomly and he's like, dude, I'm the guy with the funny
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  face. I like your drawings. And then thanks man, and then we
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  went to uh I was gonna go. I came back to LA for another
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  animation thing and I was like, hey man, I mean I I want
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  to check out your set or meet you and stuff, and he's like,
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  yeah, yeah, I put my name down at the comedy store and invited
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  me in. And then I did a drawing for him and he's like,
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  hey, man, is that qualify make these stickers? I'm like, yeah,
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  go for it, man, And then he put sticks and he stuck
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  them all over the store. And that's how a lot of I think comedians
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  have found me so through Yeah, because a lot of comedians do follow you
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  in the community. From what I see, like there's like mutual friends,
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  and I was like, oh, that's dope, Like so you know,
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  like in the in the in the comedy where people do know you, and
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  especially like the fact that you're like the you're like pretty much the like the
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  the watermark to Felipe's podcast. Yeah, yeah, that is so cool.
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  I was there yesterday on the show and yeah, sorry guys. I was
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  like, I was like, havn't smoked for like years, and it was
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  like jet lag everything combined. So I was a little bit zigned out,
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  but it was so cool to be honest and just see like all the print
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  outs of the drawings and stuff. What did you smoke with them? I
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  feel like they gave you a bomb. Philippe did give me a bong first,
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  then later on he says he noticed how I struggled, Yeah, and
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  then he gave me he gave me a smoke of dog face yeah, cross
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  joint. Yeah. Yeah that so so we brought up weed. Can you
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  is there any good weed in Australia. Did you had you get some?
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  Can you all? Well? In theory you can. You go to Byron
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  Bay is like the big hippie place, so but not Lego. But it's
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  a major time though, or is it kind of like a slap on the
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  wrist if you get how it depends what imagine the consequence is different than like
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  an Asian country just being black count over there. It's it's not the same.
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  It's I don't know, because now we just had this like referendum,
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  so they brought up some tensions, but like I don't know, Like I'm
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  friends with everybody and I'm done consume that much media, so I don't know
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  the exact vibe that's going. I don't think it's the same way. I
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  remember watching The Real World and uh and and fucking Australia would and like there
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  was like two black guys in that one and I was like, dude,
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  there was like an altercation in the club and the cops arrested the white foods,
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  and the white foods were just like yeah, and I was like,
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  yo, it ain't the same. I love that you mentioned that because a
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  lot of my perception of the world is off the real world, rural World,
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  Sydney Rural World, reural World, New York, Hey West, Key
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  West, and it's just off the New Denver. Just hot bitches and dudes
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  getting drunk and fucking somehow you work. Yeah. I watched Real World back
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  in the nineties when I was in Europe. I watched We had em all
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  over the world. I grew up. I'm Hungarian, Okay, okay,
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  yeah, so I came to strive in high school properly fucking flexing. I
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  mean, like a black guy. Damn like his passport to stamp. Bro.
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  Yeah, bro. He told me like, look like I got to
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  passport ya broa flex. I thought about just like adding that to my dad.
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  Because I'm Salvadorian. I could go to the to the thing and like
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  they're making it easy for your schedule citizenship. Why don't you, Why don't
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  you become Salvadorian. That's pretty that's dope. I would do it, just
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  like I could becoming that dude in case there's a draft. I'm like,
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  yo, like im look at these tattoos on my mess Oh my god.
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  He no, bro, like especially all of them. Honestly, But if
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  I had if I ever had to run from the draft. Ud, I'm
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  going to like Asian country and just say what your game bang for? Pokemon?
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  Dude, I'm just like you. Just you just work in a kitchen,
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  become like a Mexican in California. Just teach English. Yeah, perfect
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  English teaching is the sweetest gig if you can you imagine how do you teach
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  a language when you don't know the other language. They just want something you
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  want. They just want somebody to speak at. Just be around the native
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  speak at that. I want to teach English. Now. Can you imagine
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  how cool would it be if my teachers from slang you like liter be the
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  preschool teacher. Yeah, like like yo, you're gonna go somewhere, be
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  like yo, we finish, get some chips like just yo, like straight
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  up like gets some chid No, dude, they were just like I don't
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  know. I feel like the Japanese parents care a lot about their education.
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  So like the moment the kid to come home and be like what do you
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  come in here? Talking like next next Friday? And ship it's not having
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  the ship. Really what they do is when they travel they use their kids
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  to do all the translation and asking and running around. So that's what like
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  all the kids is that I was teaching. They just the parents, Just
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  like I went to America and then Hawaii or something, and then the kid
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  would do all the work. I would just overcharge my parents, Like every
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  time there's like a bill, I'd be like, yeah, it's be like
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  it's four hundred, but it's four fifty, mom, and like take that
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  nice little fifty. He's on. Numbers don't change. I know, dude,
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  I know they don't in Japan. Did you know how much you paid
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  every time? Yeah? It was exactly full. You're trying to hustle your
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  parents. You're such a kid. Full you're trying to fucking hustle A translated
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  it would be on the clock, bitch. Just you are on the clock.
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  They paid for your food, they give you somewhere to live and ungrateful
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  little funks. Dude, I know he's gonna be appreciated. This is why
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  I messed up the bathroom and that was funny. I still can't believe you
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  did that. Yeah, but you do. I have a no. It's
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  the last video that posted up. Like when I was when I was younger,
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  bro, Like, I just I don't know, bro, Like I
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  just had fun destroying things, like making messes. I don't know what it
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  is like when you put chicken nuggets and that guy, yeah, and I
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  gu's control and then I just messed up his house. This one was me,
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  though, This one was me like his mom. His mom got invited
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  to a baby shower. I was. I wasn't family because I already know
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  this about it. No, I was a family. I didn't do it
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  in like a family member's It was like a friend of work or something like
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  that. And I was just like, Yeah, they don't know. It
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  could be anybody's game. Dude, I'm pretty sure you were top five witnesses.
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  I mean you were taught by you were top five. Uh always stuck
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  all those reags that that fucking manchim party. Yeah in the toilet. I'm
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  telling you sometimes it's fun man that. Now, what did you do?
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  What did you like better? Did you like living better in China or Australia?
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  China was awesome between two thousand and night till around twenty fifteen, and
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  then I got a little bit like the visas requirements kept creeping up. Like
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  for me, I was okay because I worked in that animation. My degrees
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  in animation, and I worked in animation outside China, so it was fine.
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  Before it was just like whatever vague, loose paperwork, They'll just give
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  you a visa and work was always around and and there's a lot of parties
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  as well, and it was this great. But then yeah, just things
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  tightened up in China, things got more expensive, and yeah, it was
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  time to leave. Is there is there? Is it a dictatorship? Is
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  it as bad as they say? It is? Like, oh, do
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  your your surveillance and well yes and no, like what, I actually worked
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  for the government for three months. I did what they like to call because
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  they asked me on the phone, are you okay to do propaganda stuff?
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  And I'm like, it's gonna be fun. So I was. I was
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  like, yeah, like this is a story. So and because it's gonna
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  get done anyways, you're right. If it's not you, it's gonna be
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  someone else. You might as well. Yeah, it just make the best
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  out of it. Yeah, And it was like for the official government news
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  channel the English language, and so no, not at all. No,
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  it was super innocent, well innocent. It was like, uh, it's
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  just basically it's more of an explanation video just telling you like there's uh,
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  this is how the government works. We don't only have the Communist Party,
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  so they've got all these token other parties. Even yeah, I don't know,
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  I'm not telling you that's that's what they told me to say. So
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  it's like here, like we have other parties, but we haven't left in
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  the right. That's it. We have the Democratic and the Republic. Well
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  they did, there's a bit in it because we did ten episodes and and
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  there was a bit in it where they did touch on like the Culture Revolution,
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  and I kind of said, well, you know, not everything was
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  great in our past. And then I was like, well there you got
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  admitting to some faults. So yeah, I have only Germany would do that.
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  They they did. Yeah, they just kind they just kind of like
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  if you ask him about what happened, not anymore like but for a while
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  it was just like we don't know it just I thought you were like because
• 20:56
  like when I was in school, Hungary was part of like they weren't part
• 21:00
  of Germany, but they were part of I think we were the last country
• 21:03
  to separate from Germany, like the the whatever. And we were told in
• 21:10
  school that we were the bad guys. And they told her pretty much,
• 21:14
  or what's going on, and they were like, yeah, we lost two
• 21:17
  thirds of our land because we were part of We were on Hitler's side the
• 21:21
  whole time. I mean, what I know is like in Germany, you're
• 21:26
  not allowed to have any Nazi memorabilia. That's illegal. We don't like to
• 21:30
  show it. I think in historic can't you do it in historical maybe in
• 21:36
  a museum, but you're not allowed to have it. And be like,
• 21:37
  look, I have fucking Hitler's fucking well teacup. Well you're just saying that.
• 21:42
  I remember I was when I had my show. I was hiring a
• 21:47
  lot of people and I literally had one kid, like some twenty year old
• 21:51
  kid for an interview show up with an SS badge whoa. And then he
• 21:57
  just showed me his portfolio and it was like the portraits of Hitler and a
• 22:03
  bunch of tanks and stuff. And I'm like, you know, this is
• 22:06
  like a kid's cartoon. Like we're pretty like, we're pretty clear that this
• 22:14
  is like a Hello Kitty style show. And he was like and he was
• 22:18
  like this dark kid from northern China, which Mexics, they're more lighter there,
• 22:23
  but he was coming in from North China and then yeah, and he
• 22:26
  was I was like, dude, like, you're in Shanghai. A lot
• 22:30
  of white people here don't show up to interviews like this because it's not going
• 22:36
  to work out for you. All right, Can you start with your kangaroo
• 22:40
  jerky? Yeah, tangaroo? Are we passing us around and trying it?
• 22:45
  All right? Are we trying the Sweden heart or just regular Sweden heart?
• 22:49
  You're all right? Fine? Thank you for bringing these Australians. Yeah,
• 22:56
  I figured so much. You know, I figured if we're smoking, probably
• 23:00
  going to be hungry, so I brought a lot. Thank you. Sorry
• 23:03
  sorry, oh no, no, no, no, okay. So it
• 23:07
  says came game jerky and all right. Have you ever like had kangaroo leather?
• 23:15
  No, they have soccer shoes like that. I don't know if that's
• 23:19
  illegal anymore. When I know, I think now it's illegal. But I
• 23:23
  remember we had from our first trip to Australia. Uh, we had the
• 23:30
  kangaroo skin that you put like as a carpet. It's just like the body
• 23:33
  of his tail and his buddy. Really yeah, it's good, Okay,
• 23:40
  sorry about this. It's only ninety seven Australian, so I don't know which
• 23:42
  three percent of the kangaroos are in that's by Mexican everywhere. Sam, Yeah,
• 23:49
  yeah, I mean it's actually not bad. It's yeah, it's like
• 23:53
  beef. Yeah, it just tastes like beef. It honestly tastes like like
• 23:57
  did you get some ring. It's it's like a like a Korean barbecue beef.
• 24:03
  Are they dangerous kangaroos? Yeah can maybe they can, And it depends
• 24:07
  like like because they're not like we were. You compet them, like you
• 24:11
  go to the zoos, Like you've got these like Australian zoos petting zoos and
• 24:15
  all of them will let you pet the kangaroos, so they're not too bad.
• 24:19
  Sometimes they get a little bit aggressive and they scratch your hands, but
• 24:22
  apparently, like in the wild, if you piss them off, like the
• 24:25
  red kangaroos, they're the ones for all the Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah
• 24:30
  scary. That one could probably fuck you up, but like most of the
• 24:33
  times, like you'll encounter they'll be like the great kangaroos And yeah, they're
• 24:37
  just kind of like Rocco, or like I wish they were like Rocco.
• 24:41
  And that's what But can you have one as a pet? No, you
• 24:44
  can have it. You can have them on your farm and you can get
• 24:48
  like a license to save Australian animals and then you can take care of them.
• 24:52
  But you can't go you can't have it. It's not like a cat.
• 24:55
  Oh no, they don't. They don't react like that. Nah,
• 24:57
  pretty cool. Apparently they will so really dumb like apparently, so you can't
• 25:03
  teach them anything. They don't learn anything. So it's not kind of having
• 25:06
  like a giant rabbit in the sense that it just poops everywhere and just walks
• 25:10
  around and doesn't That's exactly what my rabbit does. He just kind of just
• 25:15
  he's just like you got carrots. Then this is like I'm gonna just walk
• 25:18
  around here and just kick it ship everywhere. I like that. They're neat
• 25:23
  ship though. I mean, you know, it's just like a little ball
• 25:26
  kangaroo. Sh it's the same. Oh, it's just a big rabbit then
• 25:30
  yeah, yeah, yeah with some MARSUPI yeah, massupio. So I got
• 25:33
  a little pucketway and put a wallet in. Damn, so we put the
• 25:37
  babies in. Cool but weird now that ship, isn't it looks nasty inside.
• 25:41
  I know. That's what I said. It's fucking nasty inside, but
• 25:45
  it's cool. You gotta think about it inside. No, I've just videos,
• 25:48
  you know. I'm yeah, so so I gotta ask you a question.
• 25:52
  Yeah, I'm a huge South Park fan. Oh yeah? Is there
• 25:53
  anything else like South Park in Australia in any part of the world where I
• 25:57
  mean, because to me, I kind of says, any Zealan one I
• 26:00
  forgot the name, but which is they're not Astrikes, but there's a New
• 26:03
  Zealand Captain and I forgot what it was. But it's kind of like Mary's,
• 26:07
  like out a suburb Mary's and it's kind of similar in Divine to Save
• 26:11
  Park, Okay, because to me, that's just like like they don't they
• 26:15
  cross every line. Every line's been crossed, and I want to know if
• 26:18
  there's anything like the Zone said, it's it's the only way of expression where
• 26:22
  you can literally say, like you've seen what is it the America one which
• 26:27
  on Saving America or the one with the puppets, Oh oh tam America Team
• 26:32
  America. Like you can't do that with human beings. It has to be
• 26:34
  animated for it to be like yeah, they let you cross that line that
• 26:40
  isn't cross the line and like what he's on there, But then you can
• 26:41
  also go very like like Innocence with animation, so you can do both of
• 26:47
  them. But I'm just wondering, is there anything else like South Park where
• 26:49
  you might be like, hey, check this out because sometimes I missed out
• 26:52
  Parking. My god, I gotta rewatch it. Yeah, I mean I
• 26:55
  don't know like that. I haven't watched like I'll be. I lived for
• 26:59
  like a ten year is with no internet basically because the wall they've got the
• 27:03
  firewall in China, so I didn't I was barely on Facebook and I got
• 27:07
  onto the internet. How's that? Well, if you want, if you
• 27:11
  if you just want to go on Chinese websites, it's really fast and they
• 27:15
  all have they will have like sites where Bootleg then all this stuff so they
• 27:19
  can get all your American shows and very fast and not all that stuff easy.
• 27:23
  But if you just like, like I remember when I went to Hong
• 27:27
  Kong with the Hong Kong and YouTube opened up for me. I was like,
• 27:30
  oh my god, I was just addicted to this day thing. I
• 27:34
  watched too much YouTube because we were just missing out on ten years of uploy
• 27:38
  But I mean, we you have VPNs and you can you can access it,
• 27:44
  but I just found them under and then every time you do have your
• 27:45
  VPN on, the Chinese sites don't work well. So I just gave up
• 27:51
  on it. Mostly that's wow, bro, could you do that? Oh?
• 27:56
  Bro? I think I'm I couldn't go. I think the I think
• 27:59
  the wall without the internet right now, I don't. I mean it sounds
• 28:02
  stupid, but I don't know what the fuck to do In two thousand and
• 28:04
  night. So two thousand and night, the internet was less exciting so and
• 28:08
  also was open. I remember during the expell in twenty ten, that's when
• 28:12
  they blocked everything. They blocked Facebook, and we're all the foreigners expected like,
• 28:17
  well, what the hell happened? And then they're like, no,
• 28:19
  no, just during expo. Once the EXPI is over, the sites will
• 28:23
  come back. And then the expot was over and they just kept blocking more
• 28:26
  and more sides, to the point now that it's kind of famous for it.
• 28:30
  Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Like today bro, like I
• 28:33
  got to experience, like not having my phone the whole day sucks, huh,
• 28:37
  I was it didn't suck, bro, because I kind of noticed how
• 28:41
  like how like, uh, the phone kind of shapes your life in America,
• 28:45
  Like it kind of like it provokes thoughts, emotions and all that stuff,
• 28:49
  when in reality, your brain should be invocating, like invocating these emotions
• 28:53
  naturally, Like these should be thoughts that your brain is at work. But
• 28:57
  when you have a device that you constantly for for dopamine, it becomes more
• 29:02
  of an addiction. So every time you look at your phone, it's almost
• 29:04
  like lighting up a cigarette to your mind, you know what I mean.
• 29:07
  And I kind of got that, and I was and I remember I walked
• 29:11
  around, I went to a cafe. I sat down, and I was
• 29:14
  like I had a coffee and I was just sitting down and I'm like,
• 29:17
  you know, I'm like, my phone's gonna be there while So I was
• 29:18
  just sitting there and the people in there were fucking staring at me because I
• 29:22
  was the only one in there without a phone, and they were looking at
• 29:23
  me like, it's this guy, Okay, it's something wrong with him?
• 29:26
  Is he gonna start crying? Like they were kind of looking at me like
• 29:30
  it's something was really wrong with me because I was sitting in there and just
• 29:33
  looking at the fucking bread, you know what I mean, Like just looking
• 29:36
  at it and I'm just like, Wow, that's some good ass bread,
• 29:37
  like because I'm like, whatever this, I got to use my brain now,
• 29:41
  it's my phone's being fixed. It's whatever. And I kind of enjoyed
• 29:44
  it xaber. I kind of enjoyed it a lot. Bro, I kind
• 29:47
  of enjoyed not having that shit because I'm not gonna lie. I'm not that
• 29:51
  person. If you get anger off the internet, then yeah, stay off.
• 29:55
  I get pure joy. I see titties ass and my algorithm's fucking food
• 30:00
  and and bun shit if your algorithm, Like I see your algorithm, I
• 30:03
  see the ship you repost. It's people getting shot in LA people getting robbed,
• 30:07
  like ship where I'm like, yeah, dude, it's n't that Like
• 30:12
  it's killing your vibe pastime, Yeah my ship, Like, dude, tit's
• 30:17
  ass fucking jokes comedians and it's not. I mean that could be. I'm
• 30:23
  pretty sure. Like sometimes I'm like all right, and I'm hearing that stupid
• 30:26
  algorithm, but I'm making me depressed. Yeah, what you gotta do is
• 30:30
  go go on the algorithm and just click on ship that you want to pop
• 30:34
  up and I guarantee your algorithm it happens like that. Yeah, why do
• 30:40
  you think I get those those disabled chicks all the time? Now I get
• 30:44
  disabled chicks all the time. My fea jerk off to some disabled porn You
• 30:48
  be honest, like you never seen like a little nub, but you're just
• 30:52
  like they have this bitch spine. It has to be in person. I'm
• 30:55
  not I would do it for the story. You can't jerk off to that.
• 30:57
  I don't think I could. What if it just came across you wouldn't
• 31:00
  just be like, man, I'm already here and she is kind of hot.
• 31:03
  She got a little love though, but everything else is fine. I
• 31:07
  just it's weird. Even if she got a fat as, I feel like
• 31:08
  they're exploiting her. She's doing it naturally full. Paul McCartney did it for
• 31:14
  a while. Wait he dated an empathy. Yeah, yeah, he had
• 31:18
  one of his wives he only had one leg? No, No, was
• 31:26
  that shining? If that's if that's me, she definitely can't leave you.
• 31:30
  I'd be making up jokes good because like she had long dresses, but like,
• 31:36
  yeah, she she lost her like in a back accident, accident and
• 31:38
  he wasn't with her at the moment. That's no, no, no,
• 31:41
  no. He started diting after Wow, gentleman, Yeah, that was real
• 31:45
  love. I'd be playing her puzzure blow drown must have been insane. I'd
• 31:49
  be I'd be like playing fucked up songs on pigsy suit, yeah my pigs.
• 31:56
  Like I'd be walking like i'd be every time come home play Pirates of
• 32:00
  the Caribbean. It's always playing, Like why is this movie always playing?
• 32:06
  I'm like, I don't know, missus fucking black Beard. Yeah, bro,
• 32:08
  like, I haven't way too much fun just because like the comedic mind
• 32:14
  is just just like because I don't know, I don't like to have like
• 32:16
  no like restrictions with the ship. I laugh at Bro like like I'm like,
• 32:21
  Bunny, it's funny. Yeah, what the fuck am iam in America?
• 32:23
  For exactly? Yeah, I was like, we can laugh at everything
• 32:27
  here. So yeah, how's the freedom of speech in Australia? Well it's
• 32:31
  uh, well technically legally we don't have freedoms. We don't. And also,
• 32:38
  I remember I took high school legal studies. I failed it, but
• 32:43
  I took it. And a couple of things that stuck out the bits that
• 32:45
  I didn't fail was that if you just curse in front of in front of
• 32:51
  a copper, then that can arrest you just for that. What So if
• 32:55
  you just got to if you got to like a police dude, and you
• 33:00
  like, you know, you swear at him, you go, you know,
• 33:01
  a piece of ship, Yeah, you fucking caun't. And then he'll
• 33:05
  be like you call him a sick count. It's a compliment. But yeah,
• 33:09
  that's yeah, but not anymore. It used to be when I was
• 33:12
  a kid in high school because like I was learning English, so the kids
• 33:15
  said, hey, call him a sick count, and I was like okay,
• 33:17
  and then I did, and it's like cool and he's like what does
• 33:20
  it mean? Like, oh, it just means he's cool. And that
• 33:22
  was it. And then when I and I didn't know it was that bad
• 33:25
  of a word because like I went to high school in the US for a
• 33:30
  year, I went to Utah and then in Cash Valley. Yeah with moments,
• 33:37
  yeah, and I did not know. So I called somebody a sick
• 33:39
  count there and he didn't Yeah, I didn't like it, and I was
• 33:43
  like no, no, no, in my country, that's a compliment.
• 33:45
  See, I don't know, like sick cunt. Yeah. See, I
• 33:47
  don't like cunt isn't used here more often. What do you mean Kelly Blaze
• 33:52
  uses that ship all the time from cunts. Yeah, but these days you
• 33:57
  can't, Like these days are like just going back to your what you can
• 34:00
  say these days, like some people just like nah, I don't say it
• 34:04
  anymore. I think they watched too much American shows where they daily say it.
• 34:09
  Yeah, that's true. Like like foreign shows are different. Bro,
• 34:13
  they don't they don't give a fuck about none of that ship. Man,
• 34:15
  Like, dude, you know what doesn't exist in Japan. I was like,
• 34:19
  man, they have no idea what racism is out here, Like they're
• 34:23
  not. It's just like, oh, no, Japan's racist. I mean
• 34:28
  they're yeah, but it's like nobody, no, nobody, Like I don't
• 34:30
  know, it's weird. Like I didn't notice like anybody taking offense to anything.
• 34:32
  Yeah, they don't. But dell, yeah, like I know what
• 34:37
  you mean. I bought my friend his mask that was in like the mask
• 34:40
  and I was like this mask was all black face, like it's and it's
• 34:44
  a giant baby, but it's all black face. And I was like yo,
• 34:46
  I was like I gotta get this from my friend, but he didn't
• 34:51
  appreciate it so much. Yeah, they kind of dud look down on other
• 34:57
  people, and I don't really that welcoming. Every country is racist, yeah,
• 35:01
  but like in Japana professional Like no, no, they're professional, Like
• 35:07
  they're courteous, so like in shops and they meet you for the first time,
• 35:10
  they're super polite, super nice, and like, oh that's kind.
• 35:14
  But then when you want to be friends with them, they're like, oh,
• 35:15
  man, like Japanese only bro, Sorry, yeah a little bit.
• 35:21
  I mean not everybody's like that. Like my girlfriend's Japanese and she's not racist,
• 35:28
  but she's considered file lefty there. Oh okay, Like I mean it's
• 35:32
  crazy because their generation, bro. Like there's like a weird structure out there,
• 35:37
  bro, because like like people ain't fucking staying together. Bro. Like
• 35:39
  they have like a big declining population out there, like with like I don't
• 35:43
  know, people ain't fucking out there. Uh maybe or just they just pull
• 35:47
  out better. I don't know exactly. So these guys didn't believe me.
• 35:52
  And every time I tell this this to people, their mind gets blown.
• 35:55
  And you've been there, I don't know if you've seen it. No,
• 35:57
  one believes me that the Grey Wallace China's fight. Yeah, it is.
• 36:00
  It is people. People are like god, they don't I know, and
• 36:04
  not all of this pristine pristine, But it was back in the day.
• 36:07
  It was like I'm pretty sure at one moment in time before airplanes were around,
• 36:10
  before they found out that they wasted a lot of time building this ship.
• 36:14
  But have you seen it? Was it amazing? Like were you like
• 36:17
  seventh Wonder of the World type of thing. It was very crowded and I
• 36:22
  did I did tag something tagged on it. Such a fuck, that's such
• 36:29
  an artist thing to do, like the so there's like a sloppy bunny the
• 36:31
  place which has probably been washed off since. Yeah, but what was it?
• 36:37
  Is it amazing? I don't know, is it it is? I
• 36:39
  mean, it's uh it is. It was week because I went with my
• 36:44
  dad went to came visiting, and I was like that if we're in Shanghai,
• 36:47
  just my friends are bothering me all the time. So that's good to
• 36:50
  Beijing. I never been, so we went and took a look and uh
• 36:53
  yeah, but it's also I don't know what was more amazing, just the
• 36:57
  fact that it's this big world that never ends, or just the crowds because
• 37:00
  it was so difficult to just move around so many people. Still. Yeah,
• 37:05
  I just was like, but I was there in two thousand and nine,
• 37:08
  so I don't know what it's like now. But I've heard that some
• 37:10
  of the walls have been accidentally taken down by construction people doing something around and
• 37:16
  then like just cranes falling over or something. Have you. Did you go
• 37:21
  to a China Disneyland or yeah? I did. I did. It was
• 37:25
  awesome because I went the first I mean I've been to both China, the
• 37:30
  Shanghai and Hong Kong. One last night and the Shanghai wan I went on
• 37:36
  the first day of Chinese New Year, and they closed two hours early.
• 37:40
  And then my girlfriend was like, are you sure you want to go?
• 37:43
  And I'm like, yeah, nobody's going to show up, so I either
• 37:45
  it either closed two hours early or I just wait those two hours in line
• 37:50
  get in there. So I was right. I went in. There was
• 37:52
  almost empty. The longest we waited on a ride was like ten minutes.
• 37:55
  Wow, Chinese New Year, Yeah, Chinese New Year's portly. Yeah,
• 38:00
  well it's a bit bigger because like you've got the biggest like migration of people,
• 38:06
  and like Shanghai has like twenty five million people, but only eight million
• 38:09
  of them are local Shanghai Neese. So everybody sold these other sixteen million,
• 38:15
  they all have to go back to their hometown. So the town just empties.
• 38:19
  It's not the most interesting. So you go down like Nunjing Road,
• 38:22
  which is like full of people, and you go to Chinese New Year.
• 38:25
  It's like twenty eight days later, it's just you and two other confused foreigners
• 38:30
  who book a train ticket because you can't book train tickets during that time.
• 38:35
  So which was the best reason that you've been to that? You were like
• 38:37
  pretty amazing. I'm like, wow, I've only been to those two.
• 38:39
  Haven't been to the one year. No, I haven't got one here.
• 38:42
  Why are you gonna take me? Dude? I could if you I don't
• 38:45
  want you in town for I'm here till next Friday. I mean maybe I
• 38:47
  can pull some strings the possibility. Yeah, given it enough time where he's
• 38:52
  like, I don't know, I do have a friend there where, like
• 38:54
  sometimes we get lucky like that, but I got to pull the strings to
• 38:59
  see if he has if he has that, yeah, well, if you
• 39:00
  need me to help you to pull the strings. Just hold on at the
• 39:04
  back because we've all gone like it, I go there a lot. I
• 39:08
  love. Yeah, So I'm gonna I'm gonna give him. I'm going to
• 39:10
  give him a call. So yeah. So I mean, since we brought
• 39:15
  up Disney, what's your favorite Disney movie happen? What's your favorite? When
• 39:17
  you animate? I mean you actually beget gamesmated the game, so uh,
• 39:22
  there's probably like there's a highlight four of them. So the first, my
• 39:29
  first one was jungle Book two, and it was kind of weird because like
• 39:32
  when I was like three years old in kindergarten, I remember the first thing
• 39:37
  I remember, the oldest film I can remember watching was was Jungle Book,
• 39:42
  the original Jungle Book. That's so cool. And then I got to work
• 39:45
  on the direct sequel to it, and so that was special. So that
• 39:50
  that's why I liked that one. But I was only ink and paint,
• 39:52
  so I didn't draw on it. I colored in the cells. That was
• 39:54
  my first job. And then Lion King three, well one and a half,
• 40:00
  I think it was called a Different Regions. It's the one where Timon
• 40:04
  and Pumba rewatched. They said it's the first one retold from Yeah, and
• 40:08
  it's like, what is it called science cinema? It used to be on
• 40:14
  the Sci Fi Channel where you've got the silhouettes talking over have you seen it?
• 40:19
  That sounds really sounds it's actually good. So the reason I bring it
• 40:23
  up because I hated working on that because on one end was when I was
• 40:28
  inc and painting, it was just fifteen shadows, fifteen different brown shad shades
• 40:34
  I had to paint. I hated that. And then I got to work
• 40:37
  on a bit of drawing blobs. But because it was my first drawing gig
• 40:39
  on that, yeah, I was just drawing shadows and that was it.
• 40:44
  That's all they trusted And I did one waterfall. That's it. That's all
• 40:45
  they trusted me with. But but yeah, the story is good. But
• 40:50
  that's the only Disney sequel where I was like, that's genuinely a good story.
• 40:53
  It's well told, well paced. So that was And then also my
• 41:00
  favorite Disney movie of all time is Lilo and Stitch and I got to work
• 41:06
  on the sequel to that too, and I got to meet Chris Sander's a
• 41:08
  few times. Who is the creator of it? Oh nice? That's like
• 41:13
  meaning the Harry Potter person. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so he came
• 41:15
  down to Sydney, so I met him there, then I met him in
• 41:19
  and then also a friend of mine was gonna do He's got this comic strip
• 41:22
  called Kishku, so I think we're going to do some Chinese thing for his
• 41:24
  comic then, and I was in touch with that. So that's more Disney.
• 41:30
  That's anyways, those three movies foreth fun would have been like three musquites
• 41:34
  starring Mickey Donald and Goofy. And that was because it wasn't a sequel,
• 41:37
  because everything we worked on had a number on the end and this one didn't,
• 41:40
  so it just felt like we worked on an original feature. And it
• 41:44
  was also I think it's still the last feature with Mickey Mouse, so well
• 41:49
  that, I mean, that's quite the resume do for you to be able
• 41:52
  to work on these these franchises. Man, Like, that's that's really dope,
• 41:59
  because I mean working with Disney, like they put their animators to work,
• 42:02
  Yeah, they do. There's always a few special guys that looked on,
• 42:09
  so they usually have it a little bit easier. But yeah, we
• 42:14
  we like we were do it more more in outsource studio, so we had
• 42:17
  like hard numbers to hit, and we didn't do all the cool a lot
• 42:21
  of the cool stuff that the other guys do, Like they get to fly
• 42:24
  to Hawaii. We got to catch a bus to the beach to see that
• 42:30
  was a flight of Hawaii. Yeah, so what's that? Would you still
• 42:32
  recommend people to go into animation since AI is around? Is that scare you?
• 42:37
  Like? Where does that leave animation? Because I don't know, like
• 42:42
  it does. Look the thing is with AI, like as long as you've
• 42:45
  got a fan base, you'll be fine. I don't have that fan base,
• 42:49
  so like it's some fan base, but not enough. So yeah,
• 42:54
  so it's it's hard because like it changes so much. I got in there.
• 42:59
  I love drawing. I didn't wasn't that much into animation. I just
• 43:00
  wanted to draw and Disney was a full time gig, so I got into
• 43:06
  so but then three D came in, so everything I worked and wanted to
• 43:09
  do just died literally, So I was working towards So then with AI,
• 43:15
  it's it's like it's taking a bunch of jobs you ever thought about you ever
• 43:20
  thought about doing like Pixar type of stuff? Can you do that? I
• 43:23
  am working in three where I work now I animate for like slot machines,
• 43:29
  slot machines. Yeah, so one of those suckers that like puts money in
• 43:31
  those. So I'm not, are you. Yeah. I like when I
• 43:36
  go to Vegas, Like if I see a family Guy slot machine, I'm
• 43:37
  playing that. So you do the cool emotions that happen on Vegas to get
• 43:42
  my attention. Yeah, and also like when you play it, like when
• 43:45
  you match all the stuff. There's also animations, but I do that.
• 43:49
  So that's newt for me because I used to work in like other stuff like
• 43:52
  TV film and I did the icone games for a while as well did the
• 43:58
  toys. So now this is you've done toys before. Yeah, plush.
• 44:01
  Oh that's sick. Man's that's that's really sick. That's one of the hardest
• 44:05
  things to do, man, Like I requested a few samples with some of
• 44:07
  my characters, and I'm just like, man, they botched this. I'm
• 44:10
  not doing this. Yeah. Yeah, you know, you go through a
• 44:14
  lot, like a lot of stuff in China. Like for me was easy
• 44:16
  because I could just catch a train and just go to the factory and then
• 44:22
  because we have a sample factory and then they'll put together something and then once
• 44:27
  the sample. I even went there to look for all the materials as well.
• 44:30
  So yeah, that's like that's like how other other states look at us
• 44:35
  and we're like we're in the fashion district and they're like, how come you
• 44:37
  guys keep making shirts and sweaters for every season? But right here, dude,
• 44:40
  Yeah, we just walked down the street and we go get new shirts.
• 44:44
  Yeah. Nice. Yeah this is like the fashion district area. Okay,
• 44:47
  yeah, yeah, I saw something. I was going around a bit.
• 44:51
  Yeah, this is like around the area where like people usually come like
• 44:52
  get like all the like uh, I guess that stuff to if you're a
• 44:57
  merchant on your own e commerce, you could just come b restock your hoodies
• 45:00
  and whatever you need. I don't care. I usually got it everywhere here
• 45:04
  during the daytime. It's crazy, but yeah, that's to have to have
• 45:07
  that, man, that is ah to have that around you, Like,
• 45:09
  no wonder you're able to Uh did you stop making the plusus or like yeah,
• 45:14
  sadly, yeah, just because what happened was I used to work for
• 45:16
  a company that was just like an OEM making toys for other people. So
• 45:21
  they were doing like super Friends. They were doing like Hello Kitty and they
• 45:24
  were doing like big stuff. So the guy was like, the margin's too
• 45:28
  low. So he's like, if we create our own IP, and so
• 45:32
  I told them, like to do it, like you should just find somebody
• 45:36
  who just has a trajectory and buy their IP. And he's like, no,
• 45:38
  no, we're creating from scratch. So he created, so he spent.
• 45:42
  He did spad the bear and he was ons did a voice for us
• 45:46
  on that. Oh nice. So I did a bunch of shorts. But
• 45:52
  yeah, just it never hit like it just didn't get the traction. And
• 45:54
  then also, uh yeah, like the the China tax whatever the Trump did
• 46:02
  that effect pretty much that scutter of the company I worked for, and they
• 46:07
  had to see which who's making the least amount of money. So it was
• 46:09
  like, yeah, our department made nothing, so they cut it off.
• 46:14
  They still have the rights. I still they still commissioned me sometimes to do
• 46:17
  little material to see if it picks up or if there's anything. But yeah,
• 46:23
  it's it's pretty much over for now. Well anyways, from my end,
• 46:25
  I had to Yeah, I was gonna ask with all these I mean,
• 46:30
  obviously they are paid different, but do any of them give it?
• 46:32
  Give like residuals no, because that's always great. Always, I mean,
• 46:37
  that would be amazing. But yeah, I know because every time I work
• 46:39
  on something famous, I'm somewhere lower wrong and when I'm working on something where
• 46:43
  I'm more involved with it hasn't hit okay, but they do give residuals for
• 46:49
  cartoons. There my TV show, I wouldn't have gotten a that. I
• 46:52
  directed every episode and I think we did well, but they for second season
• 46:57
  they lowered the budget, and I'm like, that's not how it works,
• 46:59
  Like everybody's expecting more money. Yeah, I'm like, and they're like,
• 47:04
  oh no, but you can. You're already so experienced, you can do
• 47:07
  it faster and you can fire some of them and likely know. So I
• 47:10
  was like, nah, I'm not so yeah, there you go perfect.
• 47:17
  Yeah, And what's you live in? Australia is really as dangerous with the
• 47:23
  wildlife as they say it is? Well, yes, and spiders freaked me
• 47:27
  out, Like I'm not good around spiders. And there's like this one spider
• 47:30
  called the Huntsman. It's like, I don't know, to me, it
• 47:31
  looks like a tranto. It's big and hairy. Yeah it's not, but
• 47:35
  it's still big and hairy Apparently it doesn't kill you, but it still freaks
• 47:39
  me out. Is there one that kills you? Right? Yeah? The
• 47:43
  fun web? The funnel web pretty much, if you don't get into a
• 47:45
  doctor within half a day, you're dead. But that's that's in. You
• 47:49
  can find it in your basement. You can find it under your bed.
• 47:52
  Damn. Yeah, like not in my bed. Somebody caught it and then
• 48:00
  and took it to school and said, hey, look what I found.
• 48:04
  It's called the worst funnel web. And they should have these two massive thangs
• 48:07
  on the front. Oh my god, that is a scary looking spider.
• 48:15
  It looks like you have to really wear some boots to squish that. Yeah,
• 48:17
  and he's not that big. It's just venomous. It's just very venomous,
• 48:21
  and those teeth can get in pretty deep. And it also it hurts
• 48:24
  immediately, so it's not like it's not like, you know, you've got
• 48:29
  twelve hours to get to the hospital and you'll stroll. It's like you'll know,
• 48:32
  yeah, yeah, like it'll disable you almost, like it'll be difficult
• 48:36
  to get to your phone. Wow. Yeah. And then damn that means
• 48:40
  you have to keep your your your shit clean for sure. In Australia.
• 48:44
  Bro. Yeah, but it's mostly like people who live in houses. Like
• 48:47
  I live in an apartment. I should be fine. So oh it's people
• 48:52
  that mostly live in houses. Yeah, it's like Sydney is actually not that
• 48:54
  different to La, Like it's very flat. We've got a downtown that's like
• 48:59
  pretty big all of the city, but it's the same tailors and stuff.
• 49:02
  And then like you go ten minutes and then everybody lives in the house,
• 49:07
  and then I mean there's a trying to read it like where I live in
• 49:09
  Paramtta, shout out to Paramtta anyone listening from there. But where I live,
• 49:15
  they're just building it now, so they're trying to make it like the
• 49:19
  city, but it's nobody's Everything closes at five so it's five pm. Yeah,
• 49:23
  what what do you mean? Like all the stores and everything. A
• 49:27
  lot of them, like like cafes, like back in Shanghai and Hong Kong,
• 49:30
  Like after work, I'll just go to like any cafe, sit down
• 49:34
  and sketch and get ideas. I get a lot of my ideas just or
• 49:37
  whatever, just relaxing in a cafe. All of them shut at about three
• 49:40
  pm. And like Australia has got this coffee culture and have a lot of
• 49:45
  cafes, but they will close at three pm. So if I want to
• 49:49
  know, I want to six pm latte yea and draw a little bit.
• 49:52
  Yeah, I just do it at home, or you go to the six
• 49:55
  Starbucks that exist. It's like there's not many of them in Well, that's
• 50:00
  the one place they don't have the man. Yeah. Yeah, because like
• 50:02
  Australians are like pretty particularly about their coffee, I think a little bit.
• 50:07
  Yeah, well Starbucks is ship unless you live like when I lived in Korea,
• 50:12
  it's like the only place I could only coffee I could drink. I
• 50:15
  don't know what interpretation of Paris Baguette and all the other places in Korea have,
• 50:20
  but the coffee tastes weird. Sure now it's better, but in two
• 50:22
  thousand and seven, Korean coffee was not good. So Paris could begett his
• 50:27
  Korean Yeah they have one here, they haven't. Yeah, we actually just
• 50:31
  had some cake from there. Great yeah yah yeah yeah, yeah, I'm
• 50:35
  sure they do the coffee differently here than they did. This was like a
• 50:37
  long time ago. Yeah yeah, and I would feel like, I don't
• 50:44
  know, you know, it's one thing that I've been. I've been like
• 50:45
  a coffee that I've been rocking with Vietnamese coffee. That shit is crazy,
• 50:49
  bro, It's crazy strong and it's crazy bomb. Have you had Turkish coffee?
• 50:53
  No, yeah I haven't. I haven't had that. That's that's that's
• 51:00
  strong, I think. So, yeah, it's strong. Yeah, yeah,
• 51:04
  I don't know. Man, I like I like my coffee. Man.
• 51:06
  It just but it's you know, it's got to do the job,
• 51:08
  got to do the job. What's what's been your favorite part about having it
• 51:13
  being an animator. Uh, just drawing. Actually, I don't like that
• 51:16
  much of it. I prefer the drawing part nowadays because like animations, we
• 51:21
  complained that it's all CD, so I actually have to work with Blender and
• 51:23
  after effects. So a lot of my job is not even drawing as much,
• 51:27
  like I try to squeeze in as much drawings as possible, but that's
• 51:30
  not my day job. Like the day job is just moving other people's drawings
• 51:34
  around and stuff, which is still fun, still fun. And then you
• 51:38
  know, also because it's a little bit different, it's more relaxing to draw.
• 51:42
  But yeah, I didn't I didn't make money like I remember, I
• 51:45
  was like in after like I was telling Ika, I was like, I
• 51:47
  did a TV show. I didn't think I'd be renting a one bedroom apartment
• 51:51
  after doing a TV I what it was gonna be a lot better. But
• 51:57
  yeah, well now we're not paying mortgage. But still I was expecting more.
• 52:00
  Yeah, I mean, yeah, you do think that. But then
• 52:04
  you're like, I guess animation, Like I'm like, I'm wondering. Like
• 52:07
  we went to the convention not too long ago, like Tune con out here,
• 52:09
  oh yeah yeah, and then you see all of them, and you
• 52:12
  see some of them, You're like, damn, some of these dudes or
• 52:14
  some of these chicks have credits, hello, credits. But I'm like,
• 52:17
  dude, you don't even have a handler, you know what I mean,
• 52:20
  because like everybody has a handler there, Like it's crazy somebody who like handles
• 52:22
  all their stuff. But like you're like, man, you got all these
• 52:25
  credits and you you look like you work for me, dude, Like well
• 52:30
  we expect that. Like I mean, you meet someone that's like worked on
• 52:32
  the Simpsons, you're like, oh, you should be a bowler. Yeah
• 52:36
  yeah, and you're just like, well they're not. And i mean obviously
• 52:38
  there's like levels, but it's just that mentality just like me. Yeah,
• 52:42
  most of the people now, I mean the animation biz for that front is
• 52:45
  yeah, it's kind of like now, like the reason I actually went to
• 52:47
  slots. It's like the only place where they give you a proper full time
• 52:51
  job. It's not like, oh, you finish a project and then hopefully
• 52:53
  they pick up. Now there's oldest like legal stuff to keep me safe suddenly,
• 52:58
  Oh like let me that good for you, like because gambling is like
• 53:00
  exploding everywhere, so like, yeah, you're probably going to be making a
• 53:04
  lot of those and that's a stable job, you know. Yeah, yeah,
• 53:07
  yeah, So it's cool and you still do cool stuff there, like
• 53:08
  the images and stuff's really cool and like a lot of talented people work in
• 53:13
  the scenes. Do you get to work on your like passion projects though,
• 53:15
  Like yeah, yeah, well now what I was good is I can do
• 53:19
  my comics final because I used to start it off doing comics. But every
• 53:22
  time I do a personal project, I have to think of it like I
• 53:24
  have to pitch this for something, it has to make money or like a
• 53:29
  lot of times I just have to put them aside because there's a freelance gig
• 53:31
  up and all this stuff, So I want to do like because like living
• 53:36
  in China was such a weird thing, so I kind of documented it,
• 53:38
  and I want to put that into like a vaguely fictitious comic story and then
• 53:45
  I don't have to worry about it. If it makes money or not,
• 53:45
  I'll tell it. If it's good, it'll make money. If it's not
• 53:49
  good, you gotta look. If you think it's good, I think it'll
• 53:52
  be good. Yeah, that's how you got to look at it. Yeah.
• 53:53
  So now I'm just kind of like, yeah, working on that a
• 53:55
  bit. So that's kind of my passion project. Yeah, you think people
• 54:00
  in south Park, south Park would be south Park? What I think to
• 54:02
  people in south Park, it would be south Park. If you've seen if
• 54:06
  he's ever seen the first episode, yeah, one one where yeah, it's
• 54:08
  literally made out of fucking construction paper. That's you never know what hits.
• 54:13
  It's never like sometimes I see people like I look, I mean I got
• 54:17
  in. When you go into Australia to Disney, like you know, you'd
• 54:22
  be surprised who didn't make it in and what they're doing now, Like one
• 54:25
  of the animation directors is an Australian guy. And I was listening to him
• 54:30
  on a podcast and he's like, yeah, I applied for Disney and Sydney,
• 54:35
  but yeah, they never I never got through the full thing. They
• 54:37
  because you do a few tests and he didn't pass one of the tests.
• 54:40
  So he didn't get the job. And now he's directing the Simpsons full time,
• 54:45
  relatively famous, and I was like, I was in like China doing
• 54:51
  so You're like, man, I should have failed that test. Yeah,
• 54:55
  that's my you know. So I mean he already knows, and I'm sure
• 55:00
  you kind of know. Do you think Disney's going downhill? Are they two
• 55:06
  woke? Are people? Are they trying to I don't know, Like,
• 55:09
  to be honest, like, my problem with Little Mermaid being black was not
• 55:15
  the white pot at all. I was like, because, like people forget
• 55:17
  that the original Disney cartoon was butchered, butchering the original source material. The
• 55:23
  original source material is like super violent and stuff. Yeah, and then so
• 55:29
  the Disney Mermaids were also kind of just the childish versions of it. So
• 55:34
  I don't care what they change it to. It was all cool. The
• 55:36
  problem was I think the reasoning behind it, like they just wanted free press.
• 55:39
  That was kind of I'm like, look, that's yeah, that's that's
• 55:44
  yeah. I don't think you were genuine in your choice. And you think
• 55:46
  that's going to be a downfall for Disney, Like I mean in the buzz
• 55:50
  like your one, they had an LGBTQ, they had a Legends fun and
• 55:52
  it's and it's that thing. But do you think that's gonna be the downfall
• 55:55
  for I don't know. I don't know it because like, yeah, I
• 55:59
  don't know if I think the downfall of Disney will be stopped. I think
• 56:01
  the fact that Star Wars didn't become popular in China. I reckon that kind
• 56:06
  of stuff is going to be their downfall, not the stuff because they were
• 56:08
  getting because they were doing well in China and getting accepted because they only limited
• 56:13
  how many movies you can bring in. Oh really Yeah, so a lot
• 56:15
  of movies don't get into China because they just don't hit the limit and stuff.
• 56:19
  That's why DreamWorks actually opened the studio because if you make your because a
• 56:23
  lot of them to appeal to the thing to actually send work there, like
• 56:27
  a lot of Iron Man got redone for Chinese versions and on you damn so
• 56:31
  it's different. Yeah, well they don't they don't allow things out there.
• 56:35
  Yeah. Yeah, like like a movie where American soldiers, a hero is
• 56:40
  not allowed in China. Dog, they were the enemy there. They got
• 56:44
  to be the hero. Do you can't even have a weed shirt out there
• 56:46
  type shot? Yeah? Bro. When Lebron called a Taiwan not China or
• 56:51
  whatever he did, they literally told NBA like you better calm down, and
• 56:53
  they give so much money to the NBA. They that wrestler guy that speaks
• 56:58
  in John Cena the same theme thing, but he was like he was like
• 57:01
  on the on the TikTok's going wash your page, and I was like,
• 57:07
  he learned Mandarin, quick, dog, he learned Mandarin and apologize he bend
• 57:13
  over to who's he knew who to bend over? He was doing working in
• 57:15
  China because like there was a time where like just so much work in China.
• 57:20
  They wanted so much Hollywood stuff, so we had like Tom Cruise was
• 57:23
  over and what else they were doing. I can't remember. Matt Damon had
• 57:28
  did a Chinese movie and stuff. Damn he's spoken Chinese. No, No,
• 57:34
  I didn't see the movie. I think it's called The Wall or something,
• 57:37
  right, Well, I don't know what it was, but you know
• 57:39
  what about Yeah, now I kind of like I kind of want to see
• 57:45
  what is it. I want to know like what John Ceno was really doing
• 57:46
  to really get in trouble. Oh no, he just said yeah, yeah,
• 57:51
  okay. So China thinks that Taiwan is theirs. Oh, that's like
• 57:55
  their Palestine, or that's like their gaza. Not even I did even closed
• 58:00
  dog, not even closed, that's religious. That's all different things. I'd
• 58:04
  say, like if Hawaii probably like if they take over, I think what
• 58:08
  they want Taiwan to be like Hawaii is to the U. So Taiwan used
• 58:14
  to be part of China and then during some war Taiwan became Taiwan and said
• 58:19
  yeah, no, no, it's a bit different. So actually there was
• 58:22
  a government in charge and then now overthrew that government and then they had a
• 58:28
  bit of a fight and they lost, and then they went into sex out
• 58:31
  Taiwan. So Taiwan, like I only Taiwanese friend of mine told me this.
• 58:38
  So my understanding of it is that Taiwan is where the old China is,
• 58:45
  and the mainland China is maos China and stuff like that. That's so
• 58:50
  Taiwan is just the last bit they need to grasp. And Taiwan wants to
• 58:53
  be Taiwan, not part of China. Well, my Taiwanese friends called China
• 58:58
  West Taiwan, damn. So yeah, and then the problem is that if
• 59:05
  China goes into Taiwan and actually goes and takes it, we kind of have
• 59:07
  to go into war. That's World War three because we're supposed to defend Taiwan
• 59:13
  because they have all these manufacturers. You know, they have these microchips that
• 59:16
  make computers work. Yeah, no, no, it's t CL or something
• 59:22
  something TS something like that. Yeah, and they're the only ones that have
• 59:27
  we gotta start making them. Now, that's what we learned from China,
• 59:30
  right, we took him to Texas. I think that's a factor in Texas
• 59:32
  and Germany as well. So that's when we that's what we learned from COVID.
• 59:36
  We can't rely on other fucking countries to have everything because when she hits
• 59:38
  the fan, they don't give it to us. And yeah, we're fucked,
• 59:42
  dude. We got to fucking make our own ship. We can't just
• 59:45
  rely on China and Japan. I mean, it's cool to get nikes for
• 59:47
  fucking eighty bucks, but can't just always get yeah, oh yeah, come
• 59:54
  on, we got a lot of Chinese people working with someoneies to buy them
• 1:00:00
  cost more they do, yeah two hundreds, yeah, but they're like Australian
• 1:00:05
  dollars. That's be like one hundred and fifty. That's normal. Oh yeah,
• 1:00:08
  that's normal. Go to Roster and get him for forty. Yeah.
• 1:00:13
  You see Rox Sampson, he posted Jordan's at Ross. Yeah, I've seen
• 1:00:15
  Jordan's Ross. I don't know he probably did. I told you I bought
• 1:00:21
  expensive ass shoes at Ross before I bought expensive shoes, but not Jordan's.
• 1:00:24
  Who sleeps like that little logo right there. And if you got like I've
• 1:00:28
  seen air Jordan's rock Jordan's Air Jordan's those are not Jordan's. Jordan's thank you,
• 1:00:35
  those are not Jordan's. Air Jordan's is what the ones you bought me,
• 1:00:38
  The ones you bought me, those are dunks. Okay, so so
• 1:00:40
  I've seen those there. That's fine, But like like like if you had
• 1:00:45
  air, air Jordan's are like the ones you buy like your step kid and
• 1:00:49
  done gives a fuck. The air Jordan's those are the lame ones, like
• 1:00:51
  those like the Warehouse ones. Yeah, the Warehouse ones because the same reason
• 1:00:57
  Shack made shoes at paylists, like you want, you wanted to make everybody
• 1:00:59
  include it into the franchise. Yeah, there's like the ones, the twos,
• 1:01:04
  the three of the four. I didn't know I had. I'm learning.
• 1:01:07
  Yeah, I had Jordan's in high school, but I lost them.
• 1:01:12
  How was Jordan's? Is he a B Did you guys remember what I was?
• 1:01:15
  I was in Hungary at the time when the uh the Bulls were big,
• 1:01:21
  So the NBA was really big back then. And also but my most
• 1:01:25
  of my to be fair, most of my knowledge comes from NBA. Jam.
• 1:01:31
  I still have it on my phone. Did you do you have did
• 1:01:36
  you like video games? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, grab I had what
• 1:01:37
  you guys call it Genesis. I had called the Mega drive down there,
• 1:01:43
  Genesis. Yeah, damn it is the same thing. You just called it
• 1:01:45
  Mega Drive. It's the same thing. Yeah, but the Japanese call it
• 1:01:47
  Mega drive. The Pow region call it Mega Drive. That's the hardest thing
• 1:01:51
  to uh to find complete out here in America? Is that? Like if
• 1:01:55
  you're like, I mean, you could find it, but like, but
• 1:01:58
  I'm talking about if you're gonna like search it and forget like a low price,
• 1:02:00
  like if you're actually like thrifted. Yeah yeah, yeah, like it's
• 1:02:02
  so hard to find that that outside the Probably the nest would be hard,
• 1:02:07
  wouldn't it? Get a full collection? Superintendent? The old nests? The
• 1:02:10
  eight bit one one, what is it sold? Them? Like? Yeah,
• 1:02:17
  yeah, that one's easy to find, but then you've got other ones.
• 1:02:21
  You want to find that Super Nintendo? No, no, no,
• 1:02:22
  for the eight bit one? Yeah, the one, like there's a game
• 1:02:25
  called Little Sampson. Yeah that's how fine. And and you know what,
• 1:02:30
  the Super Nintendo looks way different, but it looked different. Our Super Nintendo
• 1:02:37
  looked like the Japanese one. Yeah, like it just it doesn't even look
• 1:02:39
  like a Superintendo. It's weird, right, Like to me, your Super
• 1:02:42
  Nintendo looks weird. The sweat Bucks have the little red ship? What the
• 1:02:45
  fuck is that? Like? Yeah, like it's it's common sense, that's
• 1:02:49
  what. So have you have? You made video games? Yeah? Yeah,
• 1:02:54
  yeah. I worked on video games, but only for iPhone and and
• 1:03:00
  web games. So with the Shooter, oh no, no, one of
• 1:03:04
  them. The first game I worked on was like a sequel to a very
• 1:03:07
  popular farm game, which is interesting is like one of the I'll talk about
• 1:03:10
  that a little bit later, but yeah. Then I worked on iPhone games
• 1:03:15
  and do you guys remember Demo, Yeah, the little brown thing, Yeah,
• 1:03:19
  I did. I worked on the iPhone game, one of the iPhone
• 1:03:22
  games. It's really bad. I hate to say it because in the one
• 1:03:25
  where he just kept going and going yeah yeah, it's like but we had
• 1:03:30
  buttons on it. So it was like a two D platform game and stuff.
• 1:03:32
  Yeah, it was thank you you was it? And I did like
• 1:03:38
  and then yes I did. Actually the other one was also a farm game.
• 1:03:43
  I don't play. I just worked on those and then now I'm doing
• 1:03:45
  slots. Yeah yeah. So yeah, so Farmville. So I worked on
• 1:03:51
  this game called which is means happy farm and Farmville ripped that off off.
• 1:03:59
  Yeah, they rip that. I was like the only guy. So I
• 1:04:00
  met the CEO and stuff. I'm like, they were looking for someone,
• 1:04:03
  and I was like, I love the fact that there's a Chinese company that
• 1:04:08
  got ripped off by an American company. That's the buzz. Yeah. But
• 1:04:13
  yeah, but they folded eventually because that was they had this one farm game
• 1:04:15
  that was really really popular and went viral. But then the guy told me
• 1:04:20
  that the people ripping us off made more money than we did. But now
• 1:04:26
  I'm playing around thinking I found like an engine that you can make game Boy
• 1:04:32
  games going. I'm going to Japan and buying an old game Boy and I'm
• 1:04:35
  gonna try to download one of those cartridges where you can put an SD cart
• 1:04:40
  so I can just make my own game Boy game. That would be sick.
• 1:04:44
  And I know, if you ever do open up for commissions, I
• 1:04:46
  would love to have the High and Hungry game. Okay, yeah, yeah,
• 1:04:51
  you know what, So you guys fans of milk and cheese as well?
• 1:04:55
  Are you a fan of milk and cheese? Yeah? Yeah, I
• 1:04:58
  fucking love that's my face, Evan, dogs like my face? What is
• 1:05:00
  it? Our artist has actually done a rendition of us as milk and yeah,
• 1:05:04
  yeah, so I saw it. I'm sorry, That's why I brought
• 1:05:06
  it up. So old school. Yeah yeah, but uh, I have
• 1:05:11
  a food blog called High and Hungry with with Ray. So he's my he's
• 1:05:15
  my producer and my camera. But there's a production crew and just you know,
• 1:05:18
  producer and everything director and I'm the guy that's in front of the camera
• 1:05:23
  in the food Essentially, we both review the food, but we kind of
• 1:05:25
  do do the guy Fieri does, but we do it high and hungry.
• 1:05:28
  So I came up with all these characters and Chili and a couple other artists
• 1:05:31
  have made these characters for me. But I have like all these food characters
• 1:05:35
  I have commissioned. Bro, Like I have like tacos, I have burgers.
• 1:05:38
  Our main one is a burger, but all these high version of foods.
• 1:05:43
  Yeah, so it's it's I'm sure I'll give you a lot to work
• 1:05:45
  with if you ever open up missions once you get that down, that would
• 1:05:48
  be so sick because I love retro gaming and I do sell I like,
• 1:05:51
  I'm into reselling out here a lot. Yeah, so like I go every
• 1:05:57
  weekend. Bro, oh yeah, do you watch the I think there's like
• 1:06:00
  because I watched some of those YouTube channels. So is it called pixel Squad
• 1:06:03
  or something. Yeah, I've seen them before, you know, yeah,
• 1:06:08
  yeah, so they do all that stuff. So they have like a podcast.
• 1:06:11
  I've listened to a couple of I've just found recently and stuff, and
• 1:06:13
  I was like, oh, picking up. I can't collect, though I'd
• 1:06:15
  love to. I used to collect before you move a lot though. Yeah,
• 1:06:18
  that's why it stops collecting, even though now I bought a place,
• 1:06:21
  so technically theory, I'm not gonna move. Yeah, I just used to
• 1:06:26
  living in a little shoe box. I bought like a one bedroom and that's
• 1:06:29
  yeah, not enough for collecting. Yeah, you need like a like a
• 1:06:31
  permanent home if you're gonna collect for something the collection. Yeah, just having
• 1:06:36
  a permanent home is not enough space. Yeah. So so you talked about
• 1:06:44
  things taking you in a long time. Do you remember doing George Press's animated
• 1:06:46
  thing which one of the one moved the cat? Yeah? Yeah, I
• 1:06:50
  think how long does that because I mean, oh, that's right. You
• 1:06:55
  don't want for George? Yeah, yeah, I did try to look for
• 1:06:58
  it here. I can't find it. It's a little a long time ago.
• 1:07:00
  Yeah, it's like two years ago, three years we've done this.
• 1:07:05
  Yeah, yeah, I've done this. That was cool. That was you.
• 1:07:09
  Yeah. Oh that's so sick. That's all his style, dude.
• 1:07:11
  Yeah, I mean now that you don't you see it? Right? Yeah,
• 1:07:13
  now I see it. But it's like, honestly, I didn't know
• 1:07:15
  that that was you that did that one. Yeah, he did. That's
• 1:07:17
  what I was like. Cool. Yeah, I'm like, that's that's so
• 1:07:20
  sick, man, I gotta have you to do something for us, man,
• 1:07:24
  that would be so sick. Yeah yeah, yeah. Did you see
• 1:07:28
  the way he drew three plates? Yeah? That ship was so funny because
• 1:07:30
  Tommy looks like a fucking Flintstone bro like like literally Tommy looked like obviously you
• 1:07:36
  know we were talking about always remember you remember the Dinosaur show? Yeah,
• 1:07:41
  you remember the dad. Yeah, that's who he reminds us, know,
• 1:07:45
  the dad from the Dinosaur like the TV one, Yes, yeh yah,
• 1:07:51
  yeah, yeah, yeah, he he always reminds me of that guy.
• 1:07:56
  That's the show. Yeah, that's that's the one where he does the Freddy
• 1:07:59
  Krueger. That's that's sick. Yeah yeah, something like that. Ah,
• 1:08:04
  well that would take It'll take me a couple of days. Like if I'm
• 1:08:11
  doing like I've forgot I don't know if you ask for that or I just
• 1:08:14
  did it. I think I just did it. Yeah, but I just
• 1:08:16
  do it. It's because like there's something in mind. I need to get
• 1:08:18
  it down, and that goes faster. But when I'm doing something like a
• 1:08:21
  commission and I have to think about it a little bit more and I have
• 1:08:25
  to you know, you always get to feel Okay, the guy commissioning me
• 1:08:28
  or Gale or whoever, you know, I have to make them happy as
• 1:08:31
  well. So like for a Filipe episode, it took me. Like I
• 1:08:34
  said, the shortest was five weeks, but usually around ten weeks. And
• 1:08:39
  I did it during COVID when I didn't have anything else going on site could
• 1:08:43
  do them in you know, like what normally Like now, if somebody asked
• 1:08:47
  me to do an animation like that, I said, I need six months
• 1:08:50
  because like they take a long time, because I'm I don't do what the
• 1:08:55
  way you animate these days? Yeah, you make a puppet and that takes
• 1:08:58
  a long time in a puppet like all, like Ricke and Morty is a
• 1:09:01
  puppet. They make a puppet, which is really yeah, yeah, yeah
• 1:09:04
  they do it. They rigged the character. They're not hand drawn frame by
• 1:09:08
  frame that nobody does to the animation like that anymore. When did that stop?
• 1:09:12
  Because that's that's I'd say it's stopped around I think it's started to stop
• 1:09:16
  around ten years ago. Yeah, just I'm consuming because not only time consuming,
• 1:09:21
  like you have to train people to draw always sounds like that flip book
• 1:09:26
  stuff. Yeah, I told you so, I did. I did Philippe's
• 1:09:30
  cartoons that way because I like drawing that way. It's absolutely not efficient,
• 1:09:33
  but I like doing it that way. So I it was really cool to
• 1:09:36
  be able to do that have a project, and they were very easy Telipe
• 1:09:42
  and at least are very easy to work with. The very cool and then
• 1:09:45
  but yeah, so that was but yeah, nowadays, like I had on
• 1:09:47
  my show, I had a guy he used to work on Rick and Morty,
• 1:09:51
  but in China they don't care, like he's like this forty five year
• 1:09:55
  old dude. He didn't know that he worked on something we were interested in
• 1:09:58
  and I didn't find out. The left a month for working there. And
• 1:10:00
  yeah, and he told me how to start puppets, just use tin boom.
• 1:10:03
  They put together the drawings and do a turnaround and they will like draw
• 1:10:06
  bits and pieces to make the animation work. But generally it's just yeah,
• 1:10:11
  they're just it's just puppets, like all your two D shows. Man,
• 1:10:15
  I don't want to say if the Simpsons are doing that. Last time,
• 1:10:19
  I did know a guy that did the animation there and he was still drawing
• 1:10:23
  on a synthique, so that was them. But I was watching the intro
• 1:10:27
  and if you look at the old intro, although it wobbles a lot more,
• 1:10:29
  there's a lot more things going on. Yeah, and if it's a
• 1:10:31
  puppet, you've got limitations to work with, and they shod. Like there's
• 1:10:34
  a bit where Marge is picking up Maggie the baby and then how she looks
• 1:10:40
  in the old one her hair's moving and flocking about, and that's completely gone
• 1:10:43
  in the new since like, yeah, that sucks, Yeah, suck.
• 1:10:48
  That's right. Well I'm glad. I'm glad that you keep it all cool,
• 1:10:51
  because I mean it looks great. Yeah, the Philippe's thaying, it's
• 1:10:54
  it's, it's it's you know, it's the beginning on Centrol. So yeah,
• 1:10:58
  if you watch the show, you're like, there we go. Yeah.
• 1:11:00
  And also like if you probably look at like I made sure to put
• 1:11:02
  these they didn't ask words, I did, but I did these little idems
• 1:11:05
  at the beginning. So that's very inspired of like Rocco's Modern Life and old
• 1:11:12
  Tom and Jerry cartoons and stuff. So yeah, there's a lot of like
• 1:11:16
  nineties and earlier inspiration for those stuff. It was a little character of the
• 1:11:20
  little pink character. Oh, just sloppy bunny. Yeah, you know what
• 1:11:25
  I don't have a mascot or anything. And the reason like, so just
• 1:11:29
  the name. A friend of mine used to work at City Bank and he
• 1:11:32
  was like a straight laced dude at work, but very kooky were not at
• 1:11:39
  work, so he kept inviting me as his plus one. We're not gay,
• 1:11:41
  but we kept inviting plus one to all these functions, the banking functions,
• 1:11:45
  and I would just dress like this, and so yeah, so he
• 1:11:49
  just called me sloppy because I dressed sloppy around bankers because everybodys in suits and
• 1:11:54
  stuff. We're drinking, and it was that was fun. But so that
• 1:11:58
  was that. And then I had a character, uh for unique called Tobacco
• 1:12:00
  Bunny, and then the g rated version of it was Sloppy Bunny. That's
• 1:12:03
  it. So because he used to have a just a tobacco because like my
• 1:12:08
  my grandfather used to spike cigarettes like a joint, like used to it like
• 1:12:13
  this. So so now that you say and then you said g rated version,
• 1:12:18
  he don't watched cartoons? Do you watch any like like R rated cartoons?
• 1:12:23
  Like to me, South Park? That's why I love Southwark because it's
• 1:12:25
  southwork. No, but like, is there anything like like because I really
• 1:12:28
  like I like the Boondogs or like, uh like Arthur No, not Arthur
• 1:12:33
  Archer, Archer actually okay Archer, Yeah, because I mean I don't know
• 1:12:38
  how you've got the red and stimpy Patty. See. I like Beavis and
• 1:12:43
  Buttered, Akwat Pevers and but Head. Then you should start. Yeah,
• 1:12:46
  I didn't see the new stuff I used to watch. I actually didn't.
• 1:12:50
  I liked the movie, but I didn't like the old episodes because they didn't
• 1:12:54
  just it was so hard for them to get to the joke. It was
• 1:12:57
  like like they had a little bit of story and then there was like a
• 1:12:59
  lot of momentary and it just confused me. But I like the back Sorry,
• 1:13:03
  yeah, it was kind of play. I'm not against it, like
• 1:13:05
  you know, just uh yeah, you know which animation I liked? Can
• 1:13:10
  you tell me what style it is or what it is? Remember Samurai Jack?
• 1:13:13
  Yeah? Yeah, I remember Samurai Jack. What was that? It's
• 1:13:15
  very like like I watched him to this day. I'm like, think about
• 1:13:17
  styles, just like it or don't like it. It's like I can't because
• 1:13:21
  like sometimes, like you, there's a Japanese artist I really like, and
• 1:13:26
  he's rocking jelly bean. He has no one Yeah, he does like a
• 1:13:31
  lot like he did he did this, designed this bust for Invisible Woman for
• 1:13:36
  Fantastic Thoughts. That's like his American work. But he does like these like
• 1:13:42
  graffiti style, but he's Japanese, like doesn't speak English, but he wears
• 1:13:45
  like a lucha do mask. And so he's in person, you know what
• 1:13:49
  he looks like. And he's in the band and he does these like really
• 1:13:53
  sick cartoons as well, like oh wow, these are really sick. Yeah,
• 1:13:57
  and they're not. It's a Japanese guy and it's you wouldn't think it,
• 1:14:00
  right. Yeah, his style is very Japanese too, like I don't
• 1:14:03
  know like some of it. No, it's not animated. You could just
• 1:14:06
  tell that it's something that like that you would definitely see on a cute shirt
• 1:14:12
  out there or something like that. Yeah, yeah, I can see you
• 1:14:15
  have no tattoos, but as I have one, but you have one on
• 1:14:18
  O little one. What is it? It's just atoon handholding a pencil.
• 1:14:24
  Oh okay. So the reason I was gonna ask because he's on NOS.
• 1:14:26
  There's this U our homie here he's rock. No, he's not here right
• 1:14:30
  here, but usually comes here the homie Rock. He got this tattoo of
• 1:14:33
  what is it the lollipop? What's that guy's name? From Billy and uh
• 1:14:39
  from Billian Mandy. I don't know. I know it's like a sculp.
• 1:14:43
  Yeah. So the reason I say it's it's a great tattoo. And I
• 1:14:45
  was like, who'd you get it from? Me? He was like,
• 1:14:46
  Oh, it's this girl. She's great. And I was like, dude,
• 1:14:49
  she is great, and he's like, well, she used to do
• 1:14:50
  animation. I'm wondering, have you ever thought about tattooing? Is that?
• 1:14:55
  Uh? No, I saw it, like, uh, the guy that
• 1:14:59
  this tattoo, Like, I remember they told me, oh, we want
• 1:15:01
  to get one, you get a lot. Yeah, I got this one
• 1:15:06
  yesterday on the show. Oh really Yeah, I did a whole podcast and
• 1:15:10
  my tatt words was here and she was ta wow yeah so and I was
• 1:15:14
  like it hurts. I was like, And to my brother's also, he's
• 1:15:16
  like he's got a lot of tattoos, Like if he takes of his clothes,
• 1:15:19
  he doesn't look naked. But but yeah, so but no, it's
• 1:15:27
  like a thing like it's most people that come in are not asking for exciting
• 1:15:32
  tattoos. They just picked something from the wall Oh and like so I don't
• 1:15:36
  know like he does. He carved himself a niche, the guy called Paul
• 1:15:42
  ab Strus, and he has a tattoo parlor in Sydney and he's the gun
• 1:15:45
  Aniche where he does just geek related stuff, so a lot of comics and
• 1:15:50
  superheroes and stuff like that, and he does some I know he plased like
• 1:15:56
  a link one as well. Yeah yeah yeah, so uh yeah so but
• 1:16:02
  I couldn't do it. I saw the process he had to do. That's
• 1:16:05
  a skill. There's a lot of hard work and I don't want to have
• 1:16:11
  that guilt and if I fuck up somebody's skin. Have you played the New
• 1:16:15
  Zelda? I have not. I've been refraining from playing. I actually haven't
• 1:16:17
  played the new Pokemon either, which is like my priority more than anything.
• 1:16:21
  So I don't know. Eventually, I'm gonna give a time. I usually
• 1:16:25
  like to prepare, Like I've seen a lot of laws or reels, you
• 1:16:29
  know, sometimes you're scrolling in a lot of real one and it looks pretty
• 1:16:32
  I have I have an addicted addictive personality. Bro so like when I like
• 1:16:38
  something, like I obsessed over it and like was that the first breath of
• 1:16:41
  the Wild to get obsessed with that. No, I wasn't really big a
• 1:16:45
  Zelda fan. Ye okay, No, I wasn't really no at all.
• 1:16:47
  So like the new game did a tract because it's like free, It's like
• 1:16:51
  it's like a different way of playing. I guess, so I really would
• 1:16:55
  consider it. But like me, like I get into when I get into
• 1:16:58
  my games, like I get into it bro I bring my which to work,
• 1:17:00
  I'm liter really up here. I'll be doing shows and then like I'll
• 1:17:02
  be like right unto this hit, like doing the countdown. I'll be like
• 1:17:05
  hold on, I'm just playing. So it's like I get dedicated into it.
• 1:17:09
  So I really don't like to unless I make time for it. I
• 1:17:12
  went I went Cold Turkey after Final Fantasy VIN for like many many years and
• 1:17:16
  now as well as it's so because like I was, because I used to
• 1:17:20
  play Overnight as a kid a lot of times once I got any good game,
• 1:17:25
  so a lot of time. Yeah. Yeah, Well for that game,
• 1:17:27
  I remember because we actually rented it and rented it on a Friday on
• 1:17:31
  a Friday, and then I got out to the second CD and then we
• 1:17:34
  lost some battle because it was me and my playing it. And we noticed.
• 1:17:40
  I thought it was just we waited till the morning. Oh it's like
• 1:17:43
  six am Saturday. It was six It was not even the six am.
• 1:17:45
  It was like like nine am Sunday. So we just played from after school
• 1:17:51
  on a Friday all the way to that. And I was like, I
• 1:17:55
  can't get involved in the IMPG. Yeah, yeah, they definitely can only
• 1:18:00
  play fighting games and car games and Tony Hawk. What do you play now?
• 1:18:03
  Like what do you I'll do? I still haven't played enough of Tony
• 1:18:09
  Hawks and now it's got my graphics. Played that on my switch, and
• 1:18:14
  uh play like like puzzle games like I'll do like Tetris and I've got and
• 1:18:19
  that's the one. But I just played Tetris. I've got. There's all
• 1:18:21
  these versions that I just played Tetris, and I like this, like I'll
• 1:18:28
  play card games like I'm Virtual Racing and all that stuff. That was very
• 1:18:30
  much. I was very much a Siga boy growing up, Like I still
• 1:18:33
  have Sonny games on my phone. Damn. I remember like the I remember
• 1:18:38
  playing those Sega games Bro like early on the Sonic, the Hedgehogs, even
• 1:18:43
  that lay Mass Dolphin game that wasn't lame. I actually love that told you
• 1:18:48
  No, that wasn't you know? You know, you know you fight an
• 1:18:54
  alien at the end, right, really yeah, but the whole thing is
• 1:18:57
  like because the family is last, and then it turns all weird sci fi
• 1:19:00
  and you're in space fighting aliens. I'm not joking. That's a dolphin.
• 1:19:04
  A dolphin fighting aliens. What the I'm not gonna suck just because I probably
• 1:19:10
  never got to that level. Like I just I was like, man,
• 1:19:12
  this is hard. I'm done. Yeah, it is hot, but like
• 1:19:15
  when you're but when you're a kid and there's no Internet, you'll get over
• 1:19:19
  it. Because and then I was. And then I remember playing the X
• 1:19:24
  Men game that was pretty badass the first of it's kind when you're playing Wolverine
• 1:19:29
  walking around the adventure and just fucking people up. I know you did this
• 1:19:33
  because you're like like kind of like my tendencies. Did you ever ask your
• 1:19:38
  parents to go to game stop just to look at the cheet code and write
• 1:19:42
  something down? No, I just I had a computer, but I had
• 1:19:45
  it before the computer though, I don't know. I remember I used to
• 1:19:48
  go rite cheek close down and then I like, dad, take me take
• 1:19:51
  I had a computer since nineteen ninety five. Yeah, so yeah, but
• 1:19:57
  like did you have like check cuts just pre ninety ninety five, like like
• 1:20:01
  but by the time chicos were around, like there was websites for it that
• 1:20:04
  you could like go and I remember I would just be writing them down.
• 1:20:06
  I used to get them from the back of EGM. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:20:11
  I remember they write games and I didn't want the magazine. I didn't give
• 1:20:14
  a fun but I really just wanted the cheat code and then sometimes you get
• 1:20:16
  stuck in and tell you how to pass a game. Yeah, it was
• 1:20:19
  only there and I have to I mean, I'm not buying the book,
• 1:20:21
  and I wasn't going to buy me a book on how to be a game.
• 1:20:24
  Yeah. I still bought them because I don't know what else is coming
• 1:20:26
  out, So I bought those magazines. That was my vice. My pocket
• 1:20:30
  money went on those. Yeah. Did you have a subscription to that?
• 1:20:32
  No, I always got me. They got me for a year because I
• 1:20:35
  didn't buy the same sticks signal all the time. I still get magazine,
• 1:20:40
  the game magazines. Yeah. Yeah, still they still make game magazines.
• 1:20:43
  Yeah, which one getting game Freak or something or game Info in game?
• 1:20:46
  Yeah, they still around. Yeah, like I know EGM folded like twelve
• 1:20:50
  years ago, and I think edge doesn't exist. I still get him to
• 1:20:54
  my house. Yeah, and I look it up and I was like,
• 1:20:56
  oh, either one keeping him in business? Yeah yeah remember Attack of the
• 1:21:00
  Show. Yes, they try to bring that back and they fucking don't get
• 1:21:03
  it that. No, they fucked it up because I mean they don't.
• 1:21:06
  But it only went for a year. Right, They had a female on
• 1:21:10
  there and no offense. We were all there to watch fucking what was her
• 1:21:12
  name, Olivia Mont. That's not lie. I have the reason we were
• 1:21:15
  there, and they wanted to make a non sexual bro we were throwing from
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  like if you go, if you talk, if you type in Attack of
• 1:21:25
  the Show and Olivia Mont and just the ship that they would do to her
• 1:21:29
  on the show was so sexual. There's one thing and her dumbas is trying
• 1:21:34
  to catch him in her mouth, and it's just classic two thousand TV that
• 1:21:39
  you just can't do now. I missed those days when they would rate the
• 1:21:42
  game, yeah, and you'd wait for I would wait the whole time just
• 1:21:44
  for them to rate Borza for Borza because I wanted to buy it. It
• 1:21:48
  was that between that or was the other competition Grants Rismo, and I was
• 1:21:53
  like, dude, not wasting fifty bucks. I need to know which was
• 1:21:56
  better. And I sat there and watched it, But which did you get?
• 1:22:00
  Was that? And they get four Zone? Which was it? The
• 1:22:02
  Horizons or the Horizons? Yeah? Yeah, I just liked the car selection
• 1:22:10
  on there. It looked more real. I did look more real, yeah,
• 1:22:13
  I think, but it's more but because like you got You've got the
• 1:22:15
  one, there's the FOZ that tries to be like Grant Urisma and the Horizons
• 1:22:19
  is more like, it's more fun. It's like rally you can do more
• 1:22:25
  rallying. Yeah. And also Mario Kart Guy. Sorry, Mario kark guy.
• 1:22:29
  I do like Mario kat but I was playing a lot of g B
• 1:22:31
  a Mario cat Okay, Old, what do you think about those crazy people
• 1:22:38
  that still play Mario Smash Brothers or whatever on the game cube and they still
• 1:22:45
  play with the controllers and they don't I haven't seen that. You haven't seen
• 1:22:48
  that they do huge competition stadium full Oh yeah, yeah, oh funk.
• 1:22:51
  When I was in Korea, I was in Created it was the first it
• 1:22:55
  was a two thousand and seven and StarCraft Wow twenty four hour channels dedicated to
• 1:23:01
  StarCraft supposedly game channels, but they just played StarCraft and they had stadiums.
• 1:23:08
  I was like one of the biggest regret from Korea. I've lived there for
• 1:23:12
  a year and I didn't go to one of those live shows because like the
• 1:23:15
  games. Look, they're just sitting there, they're just wearing sports thing and
• 1:23:18
  they're like, oh yeah, look and they just like that's hilarious. And
• 1:23:26
  then they have like ten thousand like Korean kids just screaming, and I was
• 1:23:30
  like, this looks fantastic, but I just would have wanted to see the
• 1:23:33
  But yeah, I didn't go. It's like regret, No, it is.
• 1:23:36
  It's like it's like being in America and I'm going like a football gamer
• 1:23:39
  basement. I've been to a football game, been to an NC double a
• 1:23:41
  game, and I've been to a hockey game like Utah. Trust me,
• 1:23:45
  you should like the League Legends because I played that for a little bit in
• 1:23:48
  my nerd days. I can't believe the stadiums. The you know What game
• 1:23:51
  got me addicted when I first The only computer game I ever got addicted to
• 1:23:55
  was Asia Empires. Oh yeah, oh my god, dude, I would
• 1:23:59
  just be on the laptopp all day playing that ship. I was like cooked
• 1:24:02
  on that game. Bad. I was like, I was like that sim
• 1:24:05
  City two thousand in the day. The SIMS was one of the games where
• 1:24:09
  I was just like, yo, this is just life. Yeah what SIMS?
• 1:24:12
  Yeah, I was sim City. You're mayor and you're building a city.
• 1:24:15
  Oh I didn't. I didn't play that one. Was it? If
• 1:24:19
  you You know what was funny about the SAMs. If you spend enough time
• 1:24:21
  at somebody's house, they become like your love interest. Yeah, then I
• 1:24:25
  And then I was like, I remember one time, I was like,
• 1:24:27
  I was just hanging out at the homies house. I was like, almost,
• 1:24:29
  stop hanging out with you, dude. You get download the patches for
• 1:24:31
  it as well. No, a friend of mine, uh uh he in
• 1:24:36
  Hong Kong. He does that. He downloaded all the patches. That's all
• 1:24:40
  the sex is uncensored. Yeah, you do that. I was like,
• 1:24:44
  why did you waste time on that, dude? Like like the websites,
• 1:24:49
  I know you pretty well. And I remember as a kid watching the commercial
• 1:24:54
  and I really wanted that game, but for some reason, I don't know
• 1:24:56
  why I never got it. But if I don't like theme parts. You
• 1:24:58
  remember Tycoon? Oh yeah, I know you would always killing the people on
• 1:25:02
  the exactly. See that that little the little the carts just go off and
• 1:25:10
  they're they die. Damn. You remember Grand Theft Auto the first one for
• 1:25:15
  computer? Yeah? Top down, yeah, top down and Little Characters is
• 1:25:18
  running. Yeah, there's a there's a game Boy version of it as well,
• 1:25:23
  simpler. Yeah, and remember you go to the phone. I can't
• 1:25:27
  believe where it's at now. Then I can't wait for the new one with
• 1:25:30
  the bitch. Yeah, it's supposed to be the female, supposed to be
• 1:25:32
  the main character, supposed to be one of the main characters. But it's
• 1:25:34
  By City, isn't it. It's like they're redoing Vice City. It's because
• 1:25:40
  because I think they revisited. Yeah, yeah, I like I remember in
• 1:25:44
  San Andreas it was cool that like we had. It's pretty much l a
• 1:25:47
  and like if you're foreigner and don't know much of it, it's I've just
• 1:25:50
  been here. I think it captures it well. But you know, what's
• 1:25:54
  a hard game to you know what's a hard game to get? Like that's
• 1:25:58
  that's pretty shot out, like uh, PlayStation two By City Stories Oh yeah,
• 1:26:02
  yeah, that ship is like it was like such a limited thing where
• 1:26:05
  like played it on the PSP though it's yeah I had PSP. I missed
• 1:26:09
  PSP. Yeah yeah, somebody stole mine. I was sad. Does does
• 1:26:12
  Sony have a portable store? They yeah, they got. It's not a
• 1:26:15
  real portable. It looks like a portable, but you have to it's just
• 1:26:19
  streams your PS five so it's like a handheld, but there's no game inside,
• 1:26:24
  so you need to be indoors and within a certain distance of your PlayStation.
• 1:26:28
  So it's really bizarre. So everybody saying that that's the weirdest thing to
• 1:26:30
  do, but it is just like a portable is like a Nintendo switch.
• 1:26:34
  Bro. Yeah, like I can take there. I was just asking because
• 1:26:39
  I'm not really in the consoles, and I was wondering if they gave up
• 1:26:41
  on the PSP. They had the PSVDA and then yeah, that was the
• 1:26:45
  last one I remember. You can find like a PSP like for like fifty
• 1:26:47
  bucks sometimes. Yeah, like a good one was the Vita Any good?
• 1:26:50
  It's the same ship? Is it a niceo graphic? Okay? He had
• 1:26:55
  a touch screen this time, and it had a back thing you can touch
• 1:27:00
  it from the back too, and then you could also Yeah, and I
• 1:27:03
  had an oiled screen, so I had a really nice screen as well.
• 1:27:06
  But yeah, it's but the game. They won't have many games for it.
• 1:27:12
  H Yeah, it's I don't know. I would like PlayStation to eventually
• 1:27:15
  release compare competition to Nintendo Switch, you know, yeah, but like it's
• 1:27:20
  kind of I just don't think. I think the Nintendo is this weird,
• 1:27:25
  unique thing where they can get away with doing because the kids are the kids
• 1:27:29
  are the things walking around with it. Well yeah, and also like you
• 1:27:32
  dedicated stuff like I like my Switch. Yeah, I love my Switch too.
• 1:27:38
  I have too. Yet you have to want the oil and the old
• 1:27:42
  one. I have to the o g ones. Oh okay, you know
• 1:27:44
  what I really want? You know, I'm not wanted like like this.
• 1:27:46
  I want the Apple the new thing. I want thirty five hundred bucks.
• 1:27:51
  Yeah that's it. It's thirty five hundred bucks. And when the reason I
• 1:27:56
  want to is because VR when besides, yeah, I was top three things
• 1:28:00
  I was going to do with it, but you know, I thinking about
• 1:28:03
  it. When Apple releases something, it's pretty fucking ready to go. Well,
• 1:28:08
  the first first person they want you to skip it like the Apple Watch
• 1:28:12
  doesn't get updates very quickly, and I I had the first. I was
• 1:28:16
  on the iPad train from because you Can. I was sketching with my fingers.
• 1:28:20
  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I used to do that for
• 1:28:23
  a long time until remember the shuffle when it was a square or white square.
• 1:28:28
  Yeah, it looked like it looked like a pack of gums. Yeah,
• 1:28:30
  I did look like a pack of guns. But they just started.
• 1:28:34
  They stopped updating it after like two years for the original iPads, so you
• 1:28:39
  got to wait. And then the second iPad they started to support it for
• 1:28:42
  like seven eight years, so I'd wait for the next head step Bracey's thirty
• 1:28:45
  five hundred bucks Oregon Trail. But there's not much. It's like you can't
• 1:28:50
  do, Like I like the idea that you can at least have like a
• 1:28:53
  bunch of for animation, Like I would like like to play a game like
• 1:28:58
  the sims On something like that, just walk around, go to somebody's house.
• 1:29:00
  Damn, just leave, isn't that Couldn't you do that in Grandfestoa?
• 1:29:05
  Yeah you could, but it's different because like you know, or like it
• 1:29:09
  would just be like mischievou stuff like I would be going into the bathroom and
• 1:29:12
  making a mess and then just leaving, or just like I do not even
• 1:29:15
  want to buy you to my apartment. Here's simps. If the simps comes
• 1:29:17
  out in one of those things, for sure, Like we all got to
• 1:29:20
  get on it. Just like go mess up all your apartments, start fire
• 1:29:24
  called the fire department, bro, Like you know how you talking about messing
• 1:29:27
  things up in the back and like when the bathrooms, Like are you ever
• 1:29:30
  like super drunk or like super wasted at the club or like nick one back
• 1:29:34
  in the day, and obviously back in the day, you ever just start
• 1:29:38
  paying anywhere? I feel like you did that. We were like, yeah,
• 1:29:41
  fuck this, Like who cares laugh to the person already has to clean
• 1:29:45
  up anyways? He in the trash can see why dogs see I had a
• 1:29:48
  because I've done it before. But like, why do we do that because
• 1:29:53
  you're drunk and I don't do that no more, Like you're fucking wasted and
• 1:29:57
  you're like, haha, it's funny. You could just be in the trash
• 1:29:59
  can. It's right there next to the toilet. Somebody's gonna have to clean
• 1:30:01
  that up. That's so you laugh because you know it's funny. It's funked
• 1:30:06
  up. But yeah, I just I just knew you again because I mean
• 1:30:11
  no, yeah, I've done it before. Take a roll of toilet paper
• 1:30:14
  and put it in the tank. See he took a ship in the trash
• 1:30:18
  can. I took a ship in the trash can. That's a lot.
• 1:30:21
  That's I don't know. It didn't squot down, it's too much. I
• 1:30:27
  didn't. I think that was saw like a viral video. I think it
• 1:30:29
  was like on TikTok or something. In the subway in New York subway,
• 1:30:31
  some dude was just cleaning the floor and then a harmless guy went in and
• 1:30:34
  took a ship in his buck bucket. Yeah, oh dude, I want
• 1:30:39
  to fucking stab that dude. At that point, I'd be like, dude,
• 1:30:42
  this he just made my job a lot harder. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:30:45
  if I felt really sorry for the guy because he was backing, he was
• 1:30:47
  already cleaning the subway. So hey man, let's I wanted. First of
• 1:30:54
  all, I want to thank you, uh you know, sloppy Budie Tunes
• 1:30:58
  for coming on bro, like for real, thanks for having me. It's
• 1:31:00
  really cool fun. You get a little a little sorry. Oh no,
• 1:31:06
  you actually smoke yeah, a little bit. Yeah, yeah, shoot it.
• 1:31:14
  Oh, my computer's dad, my computer's dead. Ask him who would
• 1:31:16
  win win a knife fight? Angela White or Jason Ellis. Uh, I
• 1:31:25
  don't know. I don't know what it is. I don't know who that
• 1:31:28
  is either. Yeah, it looks like my cartoon is that. And I'm
• 1:31:30
  gonna go with Jason because that's a fucking man, and I'm gonna go with
• 1:31:34
  you. Afterwards, I'll be Yeah, I'm on on that one. There
• 1:31:38
  we go, Jason A, lets take it. There you go, Doug.
• 1:31:42
  We asked your question, Doc, Uh, where can they follow you
• 1:31:44
  at it? Are you open for commissions on sloppy Bunny Turns? I can
• 1:31:48
  only take that much commissions acause I've got a couple of stuff going on.
• 1:31:54
  So just follow me the line by that's all he needs. Yeah, that's
• 1:31:57
  all. Yeah. And then also I'm on my another video like a YouTube
• 1:32:01
  podcast, Comics, Comics, Comics, Drink and Draw. I usually do
• 1:32:09
  every second or third Friday. I'm gonna be on. I don't know if
• 1:32:12
  I'm gonna make it ThisDay next Friday because I'll be here and it's at two
• 1:32:15
  am. But yeah, we talk comics and nobody drinks. We all draw,
• 1:32:19
  we all draw just regular comic stuff, and then we end the show
• 1:32:24
  with my animation. So I do an animation. Where can we find that?
• 1:32:28
  Uh, just on YouTube. Just google comics and drink and draw and
• 1:32:31
  then you should find there you go, guys said, nobody drinks. Though,
• 1:32:35
  No, there's one guy, Dave. He's an older fella. He's
• 1:32:40
  like a veteran and he now is retired and he just draws comics. And
• 1:32:44
  uh, he's like the only one. And he's like a proper Aussie,
• 1:32:46
  lives in the country, drink beer, that's right, and talks army stuff
• 1:32:53
  the homie. Yeah, make sure you follow him check out his our work,
• 1:32:56
  just like you guys check out Chili stuff, because this is another dope
• 1:32:58
  artist here. And I mean for real, like like literally following because this
• 1:33:01
  guy has he has quite the resume and his talented and he's only going to
• 1:33:04
  be going places, you know, I mean straight up like and we wish
• 1:33:08
  you the best, bro, like in your career, bro like for real,
• 1:33:10
  because like what you do is one of the things that I enjoy the
• 1:33:14
  you know the most, like just animation, bro. Like, I'm one
• 1:33:15
  of those people that, like I don't care how many times I've seen some
• 1:33:18
  I don't care how many family guy, I don't care how many times.
• 1:33:21
  What's the what's the anime with with the with the with the people that race?
• 1:33:26
  I forget the name right now. No, not that one. No,
• 1:33:29
  that was the best, the one with the Nissan Skylines initial D.
• 1:33:36
  Yeah, like, yeah, I watched all these like cartoons, bro,
• 1:33:41
  and I just like play the game. Oh yeah yeah, yeah, like
• 1:33:43
  I like I downloaded it from my computer. That's the emulator I got.
• 1:33:45
  Yeah, so yeah, I just I just want to thank you for what
• 1:33:49
  you do. Like, I have a lot of respect for the people that
• 1:33:51
  are in animation. I feel like it's a big freedom uh speech outlet we
• 1:33:56
  got because if you can animate it, it's people will kind of let it
• 1:33:59
  go. Yeah. I think so is a captain. It's a little bit
• 1:34:00
  easy, easy to swallow, straight up X shoutouts hit that live bunch suscribed,
• 1:34:06
  thank you for coming on. Sorry, fun, Yeah that was fun.
• 1:34:11
  That was a good episode. I won't be here, be out of
• 1:34:15
  town, So tune in Saturday with these guys. They're gonna be dressed up
• 1:34:17
  and uh oh fuck you. I remember I'm trying to start a prank show
• 1:34:21
  kind of like, uh and find the show ownage prank Wars. Go ahead
• 1:34:26
  over to YouTube see what I'm trying to go for. It's like more interactive
• 1:34:30
  with sound effects and stuff. So if you want to be my first participant
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• 1:34:57
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• 1:35:16
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• 1:35:38
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